A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill. Examples include:
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
>you think the pharmaceutical companies are greedy assholes who pray on the despairation of sick people?
>Well I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
>you think mega companies moved jobs overseas because the CEOs are amoral pieces of shit who care more about money than the future of their country?
>Well I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
>you are worried about 5G because you think it will greatly enhance digital surveillance?
>well I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
>you think the covid vaccine was bad because lockdowns were used as an excuse to attack political enemies and side effects were ultimately worse than the disease?
>well I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
>you are worried about AI because of job loss, propaganda bots, and surveillance concerns?
>well I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
>you hate Hollywood movies because they are controlled by a few studios who push stale liberal trash?
>well I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
Ect
It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well. This has only gotten worse over time and I suspect it will only continue get worse over time. Is there any way this can be stopped before it collapses under the weight of its own bullshit into a flat earth singularity?
And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent, but silly shit like germ theory denial and flat earth are becoming more common especially on the right. Is there a way to stop this?
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I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
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>>390847>trend>the right>has been emerging>recent years>over time>I suspectThat literally isn't happening, and if it is, then not on the meaningful scale that you think. Either you created a fake scenario in your head because you clearly don't touch enough grass, or you're straight up being a malicious gaslighting son of a bitch.
Man, I remember those shitposts. Back when edgy contrarian stuff was hip on account of most internet people being teenagers.
Thanks for the memories, fedposting faggot OP.
>>390850You go to 4/pol/ and tell me at least half of these aren't the the majority positions.
>>390852>4/pol/ represents the entirety of "the right"I LOL'd and I KEK'd. Thanks Anon.
And btw you haven't really made a point besides
<"People who have different reasonings from mine are wrong because... t-they're different!"Can you even prove any of
>>390848's claims are inherently wrong?
>>390847My theory goes like this:
The theory that says "most conspiracy theories are just paranoia"… is itself a conspiracy theory!
Yes, I know, mine is too. You can call my theory delusional, then I'll call yours delusional..., and so it loops.
Well, your thread made the "Chaos Theory Spiral" itself!
But let's be honest for a second: don't get too worked up. Let the geniuses and the idiots share their theories. In the end, the one who's still alive gets to say "told you so!"
That’s it...!
>>390854I should have said far right, but even on the normal right many of these are becoming more popular and the point I am making is that when people argue against any of these things they are immediately accused of disloyalty even if they agree with almost every policy decision. If a backlash doesn't come soon this will devolve to the point of flat earth becoming a major tenant of the far right.
>>390859>If a backlash doesn't come soon this will devolve to the point of flat earth becoming a major tenant of the far right.Wait, are you seriously saying flat earth theory is becoming a core issue for the far-right??? Alright then, we have got five options here:
1. It's actually happening: well, fuck the right!
2. The left wants us to think it's happening: well, fuck the left!
3. You're trying to make us think it's happening: well, fuck you!
4. Maybe I'm just being faggot: well, fuck me!
5. Maybe the whole thing is bullshit: well, fuck everyone!
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>>390860Flat earth is not even a concern, except to flat-earthers who want to pretend anyone cares
I do not think it is happening yet. I think it will if the trend continues. The logical conclusion of all institutions are 100% lying and part of a satanic conspiracy and if you disagree you're disloyal is flat earth becoming dominant in those communities. There is no other way that ends.
>>390864>>390864And I don't want to imply that only the right does this kind of shit. I mean leftoids expect you to believe that niggers are poor because whitey is mean, the world will burst into flames if you eat steak, and that a man turning his dick inside out becomes a woman. But ultimately those retarded beliefs cost the left dearly. I worry the right will soon make a similar mistake.
>>390847Can you disprove anything of that?
>>390869I guess not. I can't disprove Islam or the idea that there is an invisible leprechaun dancing on the table either. Sorry I questioned your religion.
>>390869But it isn't so much about the conspiracies themselves its disbelief is seen as disloyalty. I mean you are already accusing me of bad intent when I made it clear I don't believe any of it.
>>390864>>390867So you're basically going with option 5, huh? Alright...
But if you already know it's all bullshit and nothing has happened yet... Why the fuck do you even care???
Just don't give a fuck, same way I don't,
same way most people here don't!
Why rant about something you admit is worthless??!
Seriously, save the energy for something that's not a joke.
Believe me, all the dumb shit that ends up becoming "a big deal" one day usually starts with this kind of talk.
So just drop it and don't give a fuck.
>>390871>I can't disprove IslamIslam disproves itself.
>>390873>But if you already know it's all bullshit and nothing has happened yet... Why the fuck do you even care???Because over time this kind of shit will cause a similar problem for the right as it did on the left. Look if you are angry that I called this or that conspiracy retarded just point me in the direction of the community that doesn't require me believe in satanic cults and doomsday prophecies to hate niggers and kikes and I will be in a place where I don't have to see it all the time and can ignore it. Believe me I have looked, I'm not sure it exists.
>>390875Wow bro, what a genius move!
Seriously though, every political and religious ideology ends up in the same basket.
Name one utopia that ever rose up and actually proved one of those ideologies right.
>>390878Well of course utopian aren't going to happen. A perfect world run by imperfect beings isn't realistic. Utopia shouldn't be the goal only a better system then what we have now.
>>390877Cross bridges when you get there. All you're doing is wasting everyone's brain cells thinking unusable things.
I get it, ideologies need moderation to stop insane zealotry, but that's energy that could've went to putting it to practice, seeing what tangibly works and what ought to improve. Stuff like libertarianism will never be taken serious because they spend all their energy wrangling their minds and not enough doing actual shit, good or bad.
Right now is not a time to second-guess: throw it all on the wall, then we'll see what needs to go.
>>390880That is a fair point, but still we should counter bullshit when we see it. We know exactly what happened to the left when they required ideological adherents to believe retarded shit.
>>390877Picture this: some dude's out on the street, screaming his lungs out holding a sign that says "I hate pizza!" Now if you just smirk, shake your head, and walk past him like any normal person, nothing happens. He yells a bit, gets tired, goes home.
But the moment you react(whether to argue or support), BOOM! Now he thinks he's starting a damn movement. Fast forward, and suddenly you've got crowds outside a government building, yelling about... pizza.
So here's my invitation:
Join the "Don't Give a Fuck Society".
We don't care about dumb shit. We don't feed trolls. We don't treat every hot take like gospel. We just move on, keep walking, and let the nonsense die in silence.
Wanna join?
All you gotta do is calm your tits, and stop reacting to every idiotic noise like it's the second coming.
>>390882We are at the point where some of these movements have already started. They aren't huge yet but they are becoming real movements. Just ignore them as they gain influence? At some point you have to call out the retards.
>>390883I get where you're coming from, but I think we're looking at two different things here.
If you're talking about stuff like LGBT or feminism, yeah, they've grown big and influential enough that ignoring them isn't an option anymore. But the real mess started because people reacted early on. If we'd just ignored a bunch of loud faggots calling themselves "gay" decades ago instead of making it a debate, they would've yelled into the void and disappeared.
So yeah, fight what's powerful and influential. But also, when dumb new crap like flat-earthers or whatever pops up, don't give a fuck. That's how we should kill bad ideas before they become problems.
>>390883Retardation is a mind virus: the more you think about retarded things, the more you grow retarded. So, like, don't.
>>390877>Believe me I have looked, I'm not sure it exists.Sure, sure.
>>390886Point me in the direction. You have incentive. If such a place exists I will go there and you will never have to be called out on retarded shit again.
>>390884You remember that old "are other there freaks like me" comic. Where some trans otherkin faggot finds a community and contributes to the growth of retardation? I think that same thing is happening with schizo retards. As retarded as Tumblrtards were they managed to leave a real scare on the internet and poltical scene. I hope that doesn't happen again from the right.
>>390887>Point me in the direction>subversive newfag demands proofLurk moar.
>It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well.
I disagree.
>And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent
This is more what's being said. A lot of time if you mention "conspiracies" that are outside of the group's accepted ones, you get called a bad actor. People will claim that your intent is to ruin our optics and push potential recruits away. This is not what happens though since if your ready to become a "nazi", you have already cross the line of no return, being "known" as a flat-earther at that point is not a problem.
>Is there a way to stop this?
I don't think we should. I think it's a good baseline to entertain any idea and I don't like how conspiracy theorists can dismiss other theories for being "conspiracies". Conspiracies have happened irl. We shouldn't dismiss them as all wrong and instead try to verify ourselves their validity by case by case basis.
>>390888Nigger I've been here since 2017. I have thread on golden oaks. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bad actor. See this is what I am talking about. Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.
>>390890>See this is what I am talking about. Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.Eww, no.
If after all these years you are still not redpilled, then I have a bridge to sell you.
>>390889>We shouldn't dismiss them as all wrong and instead try to verify ourselves their validity by case by case basis.At some point there needs to be a limit. When people start making unfalsifiable claims and shouting down demands for evidence as "shills" I think that would be a good baseline, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Look at the satanic cult shit or the covid die off theory still going strong after almost 5 years now. Left unchallenged this shit will grow.
>>390892I remember when the red pill was simply realizing blank slate was bullshit and jews were nepotistic. I miss those days.
>>390893>or the covid die off theory still going strong after almost 5 years nowThere are very good reasons why.
>>390892Are you happy with how you posted it this time? I just wanted to check, in case you decided to delete and repost, like you did. Oh, didn't think anyone noticed?
>>390896>Are you happy with how you posted it this time?The edit was to correct grammar.
these instead of
this.
I don't give a shit who's right in this thread, everyone are faggots anyway. But watching you guys argue feels like a 3D character yelling at a flat-ass 2D cartoon trying to explain what depth is.
>>390895I don't think there are. Especially after the excess deaths started declining and over half of the excess deaths weren't even possibly related to the vax. Pretty sure the vax can't cause fent overdoses, traffic accidents, or niggers nogging.
https://tapnewswire.com/2022/05/31/rof-dolores-cahill-everyone-who-has-had-an-mrna-injection-will-die-within-3-5-years/Fuck me I cannot type today.
>>390897Uh huh. Let me know when you fags are done posting and deleting. For the record, all you have to do is keep the thread open, and you can see what stupid shit got posted and deleted
>>390903Its mostly just corrections when people delete shit. I feel like an edit button would fix the problem.
>>390904>i'm not the problem, Mlpol is, because I can't edit my postsMy dude
>>390902The pandemic drove everyone insane. Most of this surge is because of that.
>>390848with respect to the OP, is it purity spiraling? Or agree and amplify?
>>390902>I don't think there are.The hints are in the open, it is up to you to make an investigation and join the dots.
The pic is not meant to be mean, but to state a fact.
>>390905I delete the post and retype them when I make mistakes. You get angry about the deleted posts. If you don't want people to delete the post then add an edit button so people can make corrections when they make typos.
>>390908The irony of that quote is lost on you. Any evidence I post will be accused of being falsified by a secret conspiracy.
>>390909>you get madYou are simply adorable. I don't care that you delete and repost, I'm just calling you out for it because I'm quite sure you were hoping no one noticed.
It's to emphasize that in spite of your VERY spirited posting, you're still not 100% on what you want to say, hence the deletion and reposting
>>390890>Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.At the same time the Flat-Earth thread on /vx/ is still, what I would describe as compromised, since you can't make a new thread on the topic and it has reach its bump-limit.
>>390896>Are you happy with how you posted it this time? I noticed but I don't think there was any significant change between the posts.
>>390893>shouting down demands for evidence as "shills">Left unchallenged this shit will grow.I feel like that if there's demands for evidence, it's not left unchallenged.
Look, it's worse if the site starts to enforce rules and stuff. Removing spam and stuff sure. Having containment threads, sure. But controlling narratives because, "the debate is settled" could lead to something I, or you, believe in being a restricted subject matter.
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>>390910>secret conspiracyNot secret at all, the knowledge is widespread across internet and for years pouring into normie spaces. In other words, the redpilll has gone mainstream and can't be stopped.
>>390910Everyone here's a damn devil's advocate. They'll justify literally anything and bitch about everything. Quit wasting energy trying to change minds, just gather the takes and move on.
>>390911Dude I made a typo and corrected it. I've been called a shillbot for making typos here in the past. Just no winning I swear.
>>390912While not a huge gaffe, it speaks to how the poster in question isn't concerned with getting their points RIGHT as they are getting them MADE.
>>390914No, hyperreality induced insanity has gone mainstream. Questioning the blank slate will still get you blacklisted. Chasing shadow conspiracies that don't exist is of no threat to the current elite. Questioning the very moral foundation of globalism, feminism, immigration, and diversity on the other hand...
>>390918>No, hyperreality induced insanity has gone mainstream.This is rich. Do you really believe anons are equal to anti-White commies?
>>390919Fun fact: Any anon can be someone, and two minutes later, someone else entirely.
>>390918>Questioning the very moral foundation of globalism, feminism, immigration, and diversity on the other hand...Let me resume it for ya: Judaism.
>>390917I think both probably just need to take step back and calm down.
Making errors because of sloppiness induced by either laziness or anger, does not change the validity of their claims. Not saying that's what's happening here, just that if that's what you think is going on then even if you're right it doesn't really change anything.
>>390920SOME anons are more willing to stand by their previous statements than others
>>390922Agreed, I'm poking fun cuz I've been there. It's unslightly, no matter how you slice it
>>390919At this point, no, but look at the critical mistakes the left had to make to even get any of our views heard. Denying human sexuality would get you banned until people started pushing back against the insane troon shit pushed down everyone's throat. No vaccine discussion was allowed at all until it became obvious the left was using pandemic as an excuse to go after enemies and the vaccine was not as safe or effective as hoped. Questioning immigration could lose you your job until it became obvious how damaging the effects were. The left demanded people believe absurd shit and then people pushed back. Let's not do the same thing.
>>390922>I think both of you*
>>390921Jews did push blank slate more than anyone else. Mostly because they have an interest to do so.
>>390926>Mostly because they have an interest to do so.Yup, they are still butthurt because the Romans destroyed their muh temple, and since then they want revenge on their descendants.
>>390927Eh, maybe that is part of it, but I think the bigger reason is because they are afraid people will kick them out again once they realize the kike community takes advantage of host nations at the expense of everyone else. The blank slate theory gets people to pretend like such behavior isn't a pattern.
>>390922I really want to agree with you, but at the same time, I'd rather just enjoy watching this chaotic fight.
>>390925>of youDelicious. Are you going to adress the part where one party said ridiculous and unsupportable things, while the other party said "No, you're retarded", or are you going to leave it at trying to characterize both parties as being stupid?
>>390931Look, I don't know about this dude, but as for me, I just wanna play the neutral guy here (I'm not in the mood for an argument). And since I can't take both sides, I just mock both of them. But yeah, I've got no idea what his goal is.
>>390847>A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent yearsI missed this. Whoaaa.
It reminds me of a woman just lurking /pol/
>>390931>Are you going to adress the part where one party said ridiculous and unsupportable things, while the other party said "No, you're retarded", or are you going to leave it at trying to characterize both parties as being stupid?What? That sounds like both parties conducted themselves incorrectly. Like, "No U" isn't an argument.
But anyway, you're wrong on me not taking a side or something. If you read again, I said, "calm down" not, you're both "wrong" and I certainly didn't call anyone stupid.
Besides, not taking a side is a valid position one can take.
Also, I don't wanna be involved in contentious debates on the internet anymore. I still regret how it went down with Nigel and that was like almost 3 years ago or something like that since I really debated him.
>>390936>If you read again, I said, "calm down"Do I not seem calm? Who then are you talking to?
>>390938Well, I don't know who you are in this thread since your ID is new but the people my original post referred to was the guy who wrote posts and had to delete them and re-post them to edit them and the other guy who got hung up on that instead of just continuing arguing the subject matter at hand. But you are right, I don't know which state of mind people are in.
>>390932I'm perfectly happy playing the neutral party, but one side is arguing in bad faith.
>>390939Oh, you know who I am. I agree that in this argument, one side is behaving rather disingenuously (and is - appropriately - quiet now).
But we're not going to get into the habit of conflating assertive and intellectual resistance to ideas as being "upset" or "un-calm".
This is among the most shameful of rhetorical fallacies
>>390940>conflating assertive and intellectual resistance to ideas as being "upset" or "un-calm". What I thought illustrated that Anon was 'not calm' was him commenting on deleted and reposted posts of the other guy. But I don't even believe that being upset or 'not calm' makes your claims wrong. I meant more as an advice to step back before the thread derailed.
>>390942I'm usually not calm myself and have to take a step back often in order to gather my thoughts.
This was a disappointing waste of time, but I did feel entertained.
Please consume your medication before typing things, faggot OP.
>>390945I also disagree with OP but I'd prefer if you explained what you felt was a waste of time, instead of just insulting OP. If the two of you openly shared your perspectives with each other, I think we all could walk away from this wiser. ^^
>>390945OP couldn't get his point across properly, and you were nitpicking unimportant stuff. So if you consider this a waste of time, I think both of you are to blame.
>>390942In a dawn-out sense, we agree. While you were counseling OP to step back, I was making fun that he didn't, and was looking foolish
>>390847>I don't think jews reaaally suck baby dick right?>I don't think they wouldn't care if they could get away with it.>I don't think they could use collective pressures, they're extreme individuals like me OP>I don't think new stuff could ever have unforseen negative side effects.>I don't think malicious plans could fall through and I don't think anyone would ever have a valid reason for overstating a problem.>I don't think demomic forces exist.>I don't think there exists beings that would put in ulterior agendas.>I don't think there is or can be a satanic plot.
>>390950>In a dawn-out sense, we agreeI see. Aww, frens! <3
>>390953You had to make it lewd
>>390952Pretty much all of these.
I didn't read this thread. I just wanted to say that the CIA popularized the term "conspiracy theory" in order to discredit people that were calling them out on their bullshit.
>>390982Horseshit, you read the entire thread front to back, and I don't know why you pretend otherwise
>>390952I know about the kike herpes kiss and never said that new things couldn't have side effects and maybe overstating a problem could be useful for propaganda purposes, but it doesn't really help anyone reach truth especially if you commit to it or the claim is obviously false.
>>390984The sad thing is even if I try going over the top some how it's an underestimation of what's going on.
>>390989>when hyperbole is an under-estimation of how bad things are
>>390902Well, let us find out what's going on with the covidians at the hospitals today.
Video is from this week. A pureblood woman is gloating because she did the right call and she's witnessing that people are sicker than ever.
Screenshot is from today. Scott Adams is going down.
>>390995How more fake and gay do you have to be?
>>390847>autists noticing thingsB-but, sure it is just a cohen_cidence, it has to be.
>>391005There is a difference between pattern recognition and pattern seeking.
>>390995A senior dying of cancer isn't exactly proof the world is ending.
>>390995Please note, you were not being called fake or gay, it was an exclamation of frustration, because quite frankly it doesn't take a genius to see the likely outcome being boomers tanking what remains of the economy just to TRY and secure 15 MORE minutes of "fame", and let the rest burn.
>>390975>>390987>>390995>>391005$10 bet says all of these posts were made by Boom Boom and can thus be ignored.
At some point we have to face the facts.
No matter what you say about shitskins, Whites simply aren't very smart or brave, the vast majority of them. They can see through almost no propaganda at all. They go along with authority, and don't even understand that thinking to a different conclusion and going a different way are options.
>>391049governmantally controlled public education is to blame for this.
>>391052I was wondering what is wrong with OP and supporters as well with a lot of neighbors.
It may come to the fact that I never owned a TV, I never watched a Netflix show, I never assisted to an American indoctrination center, I never took a vaccine, I never owned a smartphone (I have a still working fine 17 years old flip phone), among many others.
Personally I think OP is on to something, I've had similar thoughts for a long time. My experiences lurking in these alt/dissident/whatever political spaces has been mixed. On the one hand, I've encountered some very thoughtful, intelligent people in these spaces, and have been exposed to information and schools of thought that I never would have encountered had I just stuck to normie spaces, government education and legacy news. On the other hand, it's also been in these spaces that I've encountered some of the most mind numbingly retarded shit I've ever heard in my life. To make matters worse, the retarded shit tends to be shouted from the rooftops by belligerent, confrontational people with terrible grammar, who can't handle being told that they're wrong.
As far as "conspiracy theories" in general, I've found that many of these actually have a nugget of truth at the center. However, surrounding that center is a thick layer of ridiculous bullshit that only a moron would believe. Unfortunately the bullshit tends to attract a certain kind of moron, and these morons end up drowning out anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about the subject. I think this is basically what OP was getting at.
For example: it is true that the COVID vaccines were rushed through trials and obviously cause a number of side-effects that haven't been properly studied; meanwhile, COVID-19 itself is not that serious an illness for most people. Unless you're 90 years old or have a comorbidity that makes you high-risk for dying from COVID, the risks of the vaccine outweigh the benefits. However, it is extremely unlikely that the vaccines contain tiny 5G nanobots created by Bill Gates to wipe humans off the earth.
The kind of person who is drawn to the screwiest aspects of a conspiracy theory tends paradoxically to be both skeptical and gullible. He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source, but will accept sketchy theories from the internet without a shred of proof. This kind of person is not so much driven by a quest for truth or even an interest in politics, it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp. That this kind of person is actually much, much dumber and far easier to dupe than the average normie is a fact that is usually lost on them.
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>>391072>COVID-19 itself is not that serious an illness for most people.Among many "inexactitudes" you mentioned, I pick this one.
According to the info available, covid-19 was the common flu relabeled. The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.
Dig moar anon. Your assumptions are false information spread by ZOG to imprint the false idea that there was a deadly virus around.
>>391072Well said.
>>391076You are exactly the kind of person he is talking about.
>>391079>it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't graspI don't think anyone in this thread would say lockdowns or the vax were a net positive. What people are saying is they weren't the end of the world. You can't address those arguments because to consider them would be to consider that you aren't holding any super secret knowledge and your ego won't let you do that.
>>391080>What people are saying is they weren't the end of the worldOkay. Then what? Are you upset because you are alive?
>>391081>Are you upset because you are alive?What are you even on about?
>>391081You sound like someone who didn't lose their business because of the lockdowns and paranoia.
>>391084>losing moneyCaring about profit while most people around you behave irrational and take sides with tyranny because the TV told them so is very jewy of you.
>>391085Caring about providing for my family, nigger
>>391086Oh, I understand. Yours bellies full comes first while everything turns into a police state. Very boomer of you.
>>391087>Yours bellies full comes first while everything turns into a police state. Your ego comes first. Any strategy for organization that doesn't involve the world telling you how special you are for finding secret knowledge that would actually help resist a police state you would prevent. You push away people who agree with you on policy but don't believe you have secret knowledge.
>>391089>secret knowledgeNah, it is common sense and to be convinced how a sane society must function. Your are too individualist which translate into to be disfunctional to be embedded in a community.
>>391090>a sane society needs to believe in satanic baby eaters and doomsday prophecies that the only the anointed few were able to figure out and it must fellatiate the egos of the special boys at all times
>>391092>satanic baby eaters and doomsday propheciesI don't know about that. But I know that your mindset is feminine and liberal, your wellbeing before everything and everybody else.
>>391087I don't see how you think you're arguing anything but nonsense. Is this Boom Boom?
>>391094>nonsenseReally? It was you who brought it first. What money has to do with anything?
See:
>>391084>You sound like someone who didn't lose their business because of the lockdowns and paranoia.
>>391094>>391095I've noticed that boom boom will avoid answering that question at all cost. Most people would simply say "no"
>>391096>namefagging to deflect
>>391098>deflectionLet us go back on topic please.
>>391099That isn't really the topic of the thread. The topic is more related to asking others to believe retarded shit as a test of loyalty, but maybe it isn't a test of loyalty so much as it is retards who need to feel special with secret knowledge going into narcissistic rage when someone tells them they don't believe because they take disbelief personally.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/narcissistic-rage/
>>391100>>391101The summary of my point being that people dying is not what defines or substantiates a tragedy predicated on an abject lie
>>391102What did I post that would make you think I would disagree with that point?
>>391104No, I'm addressing you because you're a sane person in the room, and we're clearing the air
>>391075Thank you, this post is a prime example of what I was talking about.
>According to the info available, covid-19 was the common flu relabeled.>The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.See, this is just kind of vague. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but it sounds farfetched and you don't offer any detailed proof or cite any sources. "According to the info available" isn't much help; is the info you're talking about from someone who at least has a background in virology, or is this just some fringe schizo shit from YouTube? I honestly don't know that much about the subject myself, so I can't really argue it one way or the other. According to the information
I have available, COVID was some kind of mutated form of the flu virus, something to do with protein spikes. I guess if you've got something more on the subject I'd take a look.
>Dig moar anon. Your assumptions are false information spread by ZOG to imprint the false idea that there was a deadly virus around.This, too. Nobody who speaks in internet-schizo ever wants to make a coherent statement that a person could at least evaluate and argue with, it's always just these vague "the truth is out there" kinds of statements. Any information that doesn't mesh with whatever crazy schizo theories you believe in gets attributed to "ZOG" or some other shadowy villain, but there's never anything concrete offered here either.
If I were ZOG, and I wanted to keep the goyim from interfering with my nefarious plans, here is what I would do: I would make up a series of completely ridiculous lies that no sane person would ever believe, but present them as though they were some kind of hidden truth that (((they))) or [[[they]]] or {{{they}}} or even \\\\||||***&&&tHeY&&&***||||//// don't want anyone to find out about. Then, I would plaster this supposedly hidden, esoteric bullshit all over the public internet where any idiot with a $200 laptop could easily find it. The goal of this project would not so much be to deceive Anon, but simply to trick him into wasting his life diving down a complex warren of increasingly convoluted rabbit-holes that lead absolutely nowhere, thus ensuring he will never marry, have children, earn a living wage, vote, run for public office, or do anything else that might actually have an impact in the real world, and thus frustrate my ambitions for world domination. Just... tossing that out there for you to chew on.
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>>391135>thus ensuring he will never marry, have children, earn a living wage, vote, run for public office, or do anything else that might actually have an impact in the real world, and thus frustrate my ambitions for world domination. The shedding narrative fits this almost exactly.
>Avoid your vaccinated family, friends, potential romantic partners, and coworkers or they might shed prions on you!
I have about as decent-sized a community of familiar people as the next guy, and not one thinks any of this shit. Where the fuck do you bitches live, a trailer park in Bumfuck Nowhere, OK?
>>391140I'm not talking about people IRL. Talking about far right spaces online.
>>391135>Nobody who speaks in internet-schizo ever wants to make a coherent statement that a person could at least evaluate and argue withYou are not fooling anyponer. Your aim is to make anons waste time and effort to prove to you what you refused to see for many years.
If you are really interested in the covid psy-op, /mlpol/ archive has plenty of documented info in thousands of posts, documents, testimonies, and of course facts.
>>391154You really don't know that we got a bunch of newfriends during the 4chan hack? Try not to drive them off. Many of them were under the impression this board is for discussing ponies and politics. Not telling schizo retards that they are special boys.
>>391154This wouldn't happen to be boom boom on a VPN would it?
>>391160Ask him what he thinks about flat-earth XD
>>391160>>391164>namefagging to deflect factsStay on topic please.
>>391166How is said poster is not relevant to the topic of conspitard purity spiralling?
>>391167Is said poster with us now?
>>391169The implication being if said poster isn't immediately present than that their obvious, easy to detect, and beyond-disingenuous argumentation methods have no relevance in a thread dedicated to how idiots on the internet refuse to grow past obviously moronic notions is SO backward that you either DON'T know the individual in question or are arguing in the worst of faith.
>>391170>derailingOkay. Let us get on topic. Thank you.
>>391171Is flat earth off-topic?
>>391172>more derailingPerhaps you should make a new thread.
>>391173>A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill.Per OP, it seems relevant here
>>391174Glad you brought it up.
Do you have anything to proof, or disproof?
Anything besides derailing?
>>391175>>391176I thought it self-evident that flat earth theory is a ridiculous and contemptible example of precisely the sort of thing OP was initially posted about.
What is in contention?
>>391135Nice job showing how truly zogged you are, retard.
NEVER FORGET: Fraudshi ordered bats to be infected in secret US built and funded labs throughout chinkland to find out which would act as carriers without dying.
tl;dr he fucked up and exposed the entire charade. Also hundreds of US-chink biowarfare labs in Ukraine were seized by Russia, except there's been no international news coverage since the CIA controls >99% of """news""" in the US.
>>391173Yup that is boom boom and buddy, nobody is deflecting. Everyone here knows you aren't interesting in having an honest discussion. You've even said as much in the past. Why should they bother trying to have a discussion when it is clear you don't want one. You want to be called a special boy and fight da shillz. That is what gives your life meaning. I wish the mods would permaban your ass you are more disruptive than zald ever was. This nigger has been here forever. You can see him in this thread from 2021
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/archive/296336 making shill accusations. He was driving people off long before that though.
The fact that boom boom tries to pretend to be multiple people using a VPN should be considered shilling all on its own. Mods please ban this assclown.
>it IS Boom Boom
Dammit, I'm too good at this. Please disregard Batman as he takes a victory lap
>>391020Curses, this poster called it first
It's funny how the boomer always outs himself by juxtaposing his abhorrent takes with his abysmal-quality Facebook memes.
>>391193>appropriate the Nigel-cycle meme for BoomBoomI know that's not what you posted, but somehow that's what I read
>>391193The most obvious way he outs himself is accusing others of derailing or deflecting when they point out it is. Why shouldn't they point it out? He made it obvious a long time ago he has no interest in honest discussions.
I think allot of the hyper extreme conspiracy theories are mostly false flags made by commies, troons, and glowies, augmented by true believing useful idiots. its very easy to de-legitimize a political movement if you can cause the conversation to be hyper centralized on the schizophrenic, retarded excesses. even having to talk about shit like "5g" and "satanism" as a someone in the right wing is effectively a win for leftists.
Think of like like being caked in shit. it doesn't matter if you explain that someone caked you in it so you should really be upset at them, or you rolled around in it yourself. you still smell like shit, people are going to want you to go away.
The only way to really beat it is to force the left to talk about their own excesses instead, lol. if you can keep them addressing the "transing the kids" issue, while playing clips of delusional leftist tik tok cretins screaming about it, you can make their normies leave.
Come back Boom Boom. I want to witness what other facets of your schizophrenic swiss cheese of a brain you got.
>>391199He'll be back. He's been perma-banned before
>t. has also been perma-banned before
>>391198I think you are right that it is pushed by feds, but many of the people pushing it are grifters trying to make money off of bullshit like crystal healing and even more are just schizos/retards who fell for it and those people need to be shunned the same way we shun other mentally ill freaks like troons.
>>391200If you want him to be gone for good simply make banners mocking flat earth or baby eating cabals. He'll have a melt down every time he visits.
>>391206Who wants him gone? Do you know where we are? It's ALWAYS fun when old frens stop by to visit!
>>391207The dude contributes to an attitude of paranoia and tries to shut down discussion. That shit almost killed the site in the past. We should encourage users who will have real discussions not people who will shut discussion down.
>>391208No, your inability to not read through posts contributes to an attitude of paranoia. If I can tell weeks out that it's Boom Boom WITHOUT staff privileges, AND he's "a problem" then he wasn't my problem to fix.
I agree, BoomBoom can be obnoxious as shit, but no one is allowed to abdicate their own reason and critical analysis
>>390847>Is there a way to stop this?I don't think so. If you can't beat them, join them.
>>391154>Your aim is to make anons waste time and effort to prove to you what you refused to see for many years.Actually, my aim is just to have Anon clarify wtf he's talking about, as opposed to just making vague blanket statements about the truth being out there, and how everyone who disagrees with him on the internet is automatically ZOG. I thought my post made that clear enough, but maybe I was wrong.
>If you are really interested in the covid psy-op, /mlpol/ archive has plenty of documented info in thousands of posts, documents, testimonies, and of course facts.More evasion. All I did was ask a very simple question. Anon claims that:
>covid-19 was the common flu relabeled. The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.Bear in mind that I am not even trying to argue that he's wrong about any of this; all I'm doing is asking him to furnish proof. Anon does not elaborate on how he reached any of these conclusions, nor does he offer links to any sources that would corroborate his claims. Now, I have (You) essentially telling me to waste hours of my life trawling through hundreds of thousands of posts in the archive, most of which have nothing to do with the question I'm asking, in the hopes that eventually I will stumble across something resembling an answer. Obviously I'm not going to do this. If the claims Anon is making really are established, verified facts, then there ought to be an abundance of information readily available that will prove it. I feel like it shouldn't be that hard for someone as knowledgeable as yourself to point a poor, uninformed nitwit like myself in the right direction. Why are you being so evasive?
>>391181>Fraudshi ordered bats to be infected in secret US built and funded labs throughout chinkland to find out which would act as carriers without dying.>hundreds of US-chink biowarfare labs in Ukraine were seized by Russia>the CIA controls >99% of """news""" in the USNaturally. I'm sure any reasonable person would agree that all of this is perfectly self-evident, and thus requires no proof or corroboration. You sound like a perfectly sane person whose words can be taken at face value.
*sigh*. I'm going to restate my original complaint, because I feel like this is relevant to both of the posters I've responded to:
>The kind of person who is drawn to the screwiest aspects of a conspiracy theory tends paradoxically to be both skeptical and gullible. He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source, but will accept sketchy theories from the internet without a shred of proof. This kind of person is not so much driven by a quest for truth or even an interest in politics, it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp. That this kind of person is actually much, much dumber and far easier to dupe than the average normie is a fact that is usually lost on them. [Read more]
>>391224>Anon does not elaborate on how he reached any of these conclusions, nor does he offer links to any sources that would corroborate his claims.As you can imagine, I won't research again just to satisfy you with links. I did the digging and covid is bogus.
>>391224>He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source,And why that would be? Only a very special kind of idiot would believe the same liar, not once, not twice, not thrice, but uncounted times.
>>391224Great job exposing your indoctrination AND showing pure, unfiltered sheeple's ignorance! You jumped through all those hoops simply to say "n-n-no U!!!!"? Wow.
Any one REALLY want to see how the start of realpolitik puritan spiraling is going? Let us start with Texas:
[YouTube] BREAKING: The Most OUTLANDISH Political Law EVER in 105 Years
[Embed]Eat your words. Immediately.
>>391226I can understand not trusting authority but why trust sole random blog or social media users?
>>391233>again aiming to the interlocutor's character instead of the factsLet us flip the mirror and answer why you trust or even listen to liars and evil doers. Or you suffer from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome, or your cognitive abilities are gravely impaired, or you are getting paid. Which one is it?
>>391233>>391234Show of hands, who trusts ANY source at face value? Being 'distrustful' of a source WITHOUT your OWN due diligence is as retarded as expecting your opposition to vet their own sources to 'your precious' satisfaction. Want a source vetted? Do it your fucking self, or stand there with your dickin hand looking at Facebook 'political' memes
>>391234You didn't even answer the question, you nitwit.
>>391237NTA, but you havent displayed any justification for having your question answered.
Who thinks "You have to justify your ideas and opinions to me"? If your attitude isn't "let me see for myself", then kindly lurk moar
>>391237He goes out if his way not to do that in most discussions.
>>391238It wasn't even my question. I'm just appalled by your horrible etiquette that lowers the quality of the entire site.
Converse like a normal person.
>>391240The user assumes a certain onus when approaching information. If you want to understand something, you're better off investigating the topic yourself, so that if you have unanswered questions you can present them in discussion, rather than expecting a spoon-feeding.
>391241
You have completely missed the point.
They're not asking to be "spoon-fed", they are asking (You) how (You) came to your own conclusion.
When you make a statement, people are going to ask you to support that statement, and refute it with their own. That's how civilized arguments work.
I lost all respect for faggot OP's intelligence the moment he supported his "vibes felt on a bender"-ass musings with fucking 4chan.
There are no words to describe my increduity. Just LOL.
>>391242No, you have missed the point that other poster is actually going to provide. NTA, but I couldn't be arsed to even find the source material that goes into all kinds of otherwise well-known shit, including covid, or building 7, or any number of additional cases of otherwise "unproven" (but proven) shenanigens and government actions. Maybe it's cuz when covid was happening, all the info-dumps here were not obfuscated, slid, derailed, etc. like on /pol/, but that shit is old news
Or unless you want 'proof'/evidence that flat earth is a psyop/conspiratart purity spiral? If that isn't self-evident, then you're either ignorant of flat-earth theory (commendable) or you're very silly
>>391232More evasion, more buzzwords, zero substance, as expected. Once again, we see evidence that the internet conspiratard schizo is not interested in discussing or even learning about the topics he claims to have super-sekrit esoteric knowledge of. The whole thing is just about staking out a position as an edgy contrarian, in order to feel superior to the "sheeple."
>videoWelp, that's 22 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Was this the video you meant to post? Maybe you copied the wrong tab? Because this is nothing but some YouTuber ranting about a THC ban in Texas; it has nothing the fuck to do with anything being presently discussed.
>391225>391226I'm not even going to bother giving Boom Boom a (You) this time.
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>>390847Just reading this post anypony understands how bizarre it is.
Not much to add except to call OP out.
>>391257Since 4chan went down, the Establishment confirmed potential bunkers. Since then they've been running various campaigns of a similar theme to drive engagement and correct 'wrongthink'
>>390847Some facts, properly sourced.
Pic 1 - American corporations lobbying for stonewalling the American people on the poisons they add to the food.
Pic 2 - Warning sign on a 5G tower mentioning "flu like symptoms". The roll out of 5G radiation was simultaneous with the covid psyop and flu like symptoms, exactly the same than covid.
Pic 3 and 4 - The zombie page of the CDC. You can't make this shit up. By the way OP, you might want to call the CDC to complain about their crazy conspiracy theory about "zombies".
We know boom boom is using a VPN. Is he also pretending to be multiple people?
>>391241It's like the schizo code or something to never give a direct answer to a question or to link sources.
>>391275When the questions are so basic that any search engine, or more precisely any free-to-use AI can provide more contemporaneous sources and examples, no, you DON'T get to be a petulant shit on the internet without backlash
>>391274And no, you aren't clever
>>391276Yeah I'm sure looking up proof that the world is flat or that every died 2 weeks ago from covid is going to be easy and obvious information to find.
>>391266Nigga there aren't any feds here and feds aren't going to care if you are chasing shadows.
>>391280Who is going to believe the random schizo blogs 3 pages into the search over the .gov and .edu sources at the top and why should they? At least the people from the .edu and .gov sources are making technology that works off those same principles.
>>391282You've been told. You can check the Mlpol archives if you want actual information. Suggested prompt: Covid.
Or, if you're THAT asshole, there's 2761 posts in the flat earth thread on /vx/
>>391266This board has like ~15 active users on a good day. It's too small for feds to care.
Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they're feds.
>>391274He's known to do that. It's also why he makes political threads without IDs, to disguise how hard he sockpuppets conversations.
>>391285What timing
>15 active usersOn a GOOD day. But here's the fun part, most of them aren't the same user. MOST 'users' lurk.
You don't HAVE to post to be 'active' on Mlpol, because we don't have shills, slide threads, or other shit.
It's kinda like what /pol/ COULD look like if it wasn't pozzed by tranny jannies and shills.
We realized this years ago, you're just NOW getting the memo
>>391287>We realized this years ago, you're just NOW getting the memoNigger, I knew this 8 years ago. Fuck off with your lecturing the obvious.
>>391288Nigger, I'm not lecturing you, I'm lecturing others in a dialogue with you. If I DIDN'T respect you, I wouldn't bother