A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill. Examples include:
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
>you think the pharmaceutical companies are greedy assholes who pray on the despairation of sick people?
>Well I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
>you think mega companies moved jobs overseas because the CEOs are amoral pieces of shit who care more about money than the future of their country?
>Well I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
>you are worried about 5G because you think it will greatly enhance digital surveillance?
>well I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
>you think the covid vaccine was bad because lockdowns were used as an excuse to attack political enemies and side effects were ultimately worse than the disease?
>well I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
>you are worried about AI because of job loss, propaganda bots, and surveillance concerns?
>well I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
>you hate Hollywood movies because they are controlled by a few studios who push stale liberal trash?
>well I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
Ect
It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well. This has only gotten worse over time and I suspect it will only continue get worse over time. Is there any way this can be stopped before it collapses under the weight of its own bullshit into a flat earth singularity?
And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent, but silly shit like germ theory denial and flat earth are becoming more common especially on the right. Is there a way to stop this?
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>>391696The shills are hiding under your bed!
>>391697>>391698You're going to pretend this isn't an unnecessarily drawn-out instance - by your insistence - because you couldn't be bothered to check the archive like instructed?
>afraidYour words. By allegation, one of you should know that I'm unavoidable.
>>391700>because you couldn't be bothered to check the archiveLiterally nothing to do with that.
>one of you should know that I'm unavoidableProve it, fag. I'll wait.
>>391701Literally everything to do with that.
This started when one party got buttmad that another party was making allegations that the first party disagreed with.
>>391702Oh, you're back. Continuing
It spiralled out of control when one party disingenuously started the rhetorical game of "I just have to say shitty one-liners"; a common tactic of BoomBoom btw.
Seeing this, I decided to engage.
There was a kerfuffle, and every party was witnessed to be precisely how they are.
Fun fact, this is my FAVORITE tactic, I'm quite good at looking ridiculous, it doesn't bother me. But (you)? What do you have to say for yourself?
>>391704Likewise, friendo
Now can we let the discussion continue?
You know, the one about online purity spirals, and how people form groups to try and silence dissent by disingenuous practices like demanding unrefutable links?
Oh my, is that what I've been doing? Making you prove yourself to be the typification of the thread topic?
Not my first rodeo, kid
[YouTube] Shokugeki no Soma S4 OST - Dish of God
[Embed] >>391706No we are discussing how you became a fifi.
>>391703>I'm quite good at looking ridiculousThat's the first time I agree with your perception, however twisted it may be.
If I skim this abomination of a thread, all I really see is one big schizophrenic episode spanning weeks. My only takeaway from all this nonsense is that OP is definitely not operating in the same reality I'm in, and he has done a very poor job describing how he arrived at such a dimension.
>>391690>on the subject of Conspiritard Purity SpirallingAhem.
I think this bread is an attempt to use the concept of "Woke Right" but repacked as "Purity Spiraling". The goal is the same: to reduce resistance and counter attacks to subversive attempts.
>sighs in Lolcow<Ye asked fer this>>391707You're cute, I may have made you my bitch
>>391708Super
>>391707This.
>>391706Did your father beat you with hit belt, or did he use a cane?
>>391710When was the first time you were molested?
>>391711I'm Gen X. You probably don't know what a switch is. Protip: it SOUNDS like it involves turning off and on lights, and thats cuz it is, but not what you're thinking.
>molestedI said let's make it awkward
Age 4
>>391712>Age 4Interesting. And when was the last time?
>>391713Are you going somewhere with this?
>>391714Yes, I am examining how you grew up to be such a stunted, deranged, unstable, infantile retard.
>>391715OH! That's easy to answer. You just have to A. not be a douche, B. ask, C. Not derail a thread to do so, D. did I mention not being a douche? E. pay attention (was it you or the other guy who claimed to be an oldfag
<Bet 'e donnae knauwr 'bout the other board, F. Go F urself, G. What do you have against discussion of conspiracies, such that you wanna take it to me? Or, unless,...
Real talk:
Is trolling fun when the victim is trolling back? Could this be a type of perpetual motion I witness?
>>391717It's more like one of those railway trolleys, where one party pushes down and then the other does.
>>391716I think most people still here are old fags.
>>391716Lashing out I see.
I did correctly guess that you are touched in the head. I only wondered to what degree it was.
Now, when did the touchings stop? Did you grow a pair and fight back against your molester? Or did they abandon you when you grew too ugly? Or was it neither? Are you still being abused?
Did it harbor feelings of inadequacy? Powerlessness? Did you disassociate to cope with the trauma? Did you have feelings that you needed to prove something to people who never cared for you?
Did you develop strange sexual preferences? (aside from mares) Or did you shy away from it entirely, afraid of reliving your trauma?
With time, we can all understand why you are such an insufferable worthless fuck-up today.
>>391719Also this.
[Read more] >>391720>I expect you to answer while I'm being abysmally ugly and disrespectfulMaybe you haven't read the room properly
>>391722Oh, still afraid to confront your own damage I see.
That's fine. Your behavior in this thread speaks volumes already.
>>391723>afraidYour words, not mine. Regardless, I have no secrets for those who aren't petulent.
>Your behavior in this thread speaks volumes alreadyLikewise, mate, but I planned for this ^_~
>>391724You planned to talk about uncle touch? Why?!
>>391724Planning for shitposts. Seems like an obsessive compulsion, perhaps even a safety blanket for an individual who was unable to escape their trauma or cope with the damage.
What is it that you are planning for? Does planning for irrelevant things make you feel better about being unable to escape your own nightmares? Does it give you a feeling of control? Does it make you feel competent, to distract from how broken you are?
>>391725Obsessive planning is a common compulsion for abuse victims. It seems as though Ninjas is even more broken and unhinged than we initially thought.
>>391727>obsessive compulsionIt might be, but there's been no precedent
>unableI'm literally gonna make you eat those words
>>391725You seem oddly fixated on that, anything you want to share with the group?
>>391719Yeah I remember being here when the /mlp/ /pol/ merger april fools happened.
>>391730Since one of you is an "all the time here" oldfag, I'll leave him to explain why what you just said was wrong, and if he's wrong, I'll be back to spank you both
>>391729>there's been no precedentYou might be surprised.
>I'm literally gonna make you eat those wordsProve it, faggot. You are broken, and by your posting patterns you are either unwilling or unable to fix yourself.
>You seem oddly fixated on that, anything you want to share with the group?Ah, throwing accusations of projection.
You are struggling. It is evident. Your uptick in insufferable shitposts on this site demonstrates deeply-rooted inadequacy and vulnerability.
Did you experience a loss in recent years? Someone who protected you in the past, no longer here to comfort you?
Did you recently have a "self discovery" that makes you feel validated? "Transexual"? "Asexual"? "Nonbinary"? Did you take on any of those labels to give yourself a more solid feeling of identity?
>>391730The board merger was incredible. I wish I could relive that weekend all over again.
>>391731>I'll be back to spank you bothWere you spanked as a child? Were you beaten? Who did the spanking, your father or your mother?
[Read more] >>391732>unwilling or unable to fix yourselfWow, the projection. You're very obviously unreasonable, and not only disingenuous, but curiously unable to comprehend simple diction. How many posts ago did I mention the switch?
And then, after ALL of that (oh, I know you want to carry on) I ask again.
Are
you
done?
>>391733You syntax implies anger, desperation even, I can already imagine you angry flailing your hands over your keyboard. You verbally lash out like a caged animal, cornered, sad, unable to escape.
Can you remember the last time you felt trapped and unable to escape? Do you ever get a sense of unease for no particular reason? Are you comfortable in your own skin? Does the fursuit feel like the "real" you?
With stallions (and some mares) you have to ride/run them until they're exhausted. I'm just checking
>>391734>my imaginationKek
>>391735What do you imagine when I ask you that? Do you sink into your escapist delusions, or do you prefer to stroll down memory lane?
>>391736I laugh at you. Try harder
>>391737Your continued responses are the only evidence I need that it is effective.
>I laughYou prefer to laugh when faced with the realities of your own inadequacy? Is this a recurring pattern? Do you sometimes laugh in public for no reason? Does laughing help mask how broken you feel?
>>391738You clearly don't understand the equation then.
>You prefer to laugh when faced with the realities of your own inadequacy? Is this a recurring pattern? Do you sometimes laugh in public for no reason? Does laughing help mask how broken you feel?No. I choose to laugh when douchebags on the internet who know nothing of what I have experienced try to weaponize "it" on an anonymous board.
>>391739>You clearly don't understandTell me more about yourself then.
Together, we can figure out and show to the site turned out to be such a pathetic loser.
> I choose to laugh when douchebags on the internet who know nothing of what I have experienced try to weaponize "it" on an anonymous boardThat makes you laugh? Seems as though it affects you then. Most people would just ignore it and keep scrolling.
Have you ever thought of why it makes you laugh? Why you prefer to engage with it? Do you have masochistic tendencies? Do you have compulsions to engage with content that you do not enjoy? Or do you instead feel joy from it?
Is anyone else getting flashbacks to the Jordan Peterson vs that Sky News bitch?
>>391740You are amazingly virulent
>>391742You think so? Why do you keep replying then? Does part of you wish to confront your own inadequacy? Or does your ingrained trauma prevent you from acting "cowardly" and walking away from painful situations?
Do you feel better after having posted all of this? Or are you feeling progressively worse or bored, but choose to engage with it anyway?
>>391744>Why do you keep replying thenCuz it's something to entertain me! I wanna see where this is gonna go!
>he tries to use my own tacticOh
>Do you feel better after having posted all of thisYes, as long as you aren't gonna be a bitch and fuck off when it comes time to admit why you're in this. I won't guess based off what you've said, only a professional (or someone inserting their own bias) could do that.
No, it wasn't an uncle, but you kept saying that. I ask again, is there something you want to share with the group? This is a safe space, you can be honest. I have, not that you haven't (feebly) attempted to weaponize it against me, but if you're the coward I pegged you for, my guess is 'nah'. Oh, you'll paint it as "not your business", but really you just can't speak of it can you?
Whether you're Lee or who-the-fuck-ever, you DON'T have to act like an unreasonable shit when you want confirmation for a post. Like seriously, just ask nicely. This didn't have to be hard
[Read more] >>391745>No, it wasn't an uncleOh, so who was it then? A parent? A stranger? A teacher? How long did it go on for?
Recreating the bitch-post:
>Looks like he finally got it. Let's count this session as a success.
>Until next time.
Next time indeed
>>391750I was wrong to think that you would stop replying.
>>391751I have 5 hours of cooking, starting in 2.5 hours. What are you in for?
>>391753Take all the time you need to tell us about why you're so screwed up.
>>391752>>391753You know there are more healthy ways of dealing with past trauma than making a scene on an obscure imageboard or shouting shill at random online strangers. Just throwing it out there, but AI therapists aren't going to break the bank and there are herbal alternatives to many of the psych meds out there such as st. John's wart and blue lotus.
>>391754>>391755You're far more screwed up than I am. Nono, take a bow! You're exemplary! Please, illustrate more how you delight in other people's problems, such that you try to bring them up in a discussion you lost long ago but either aren't smart enough, or aren't man enough to admit.
Nono, I've said enough. It's your turn. Why ARE you so vile?
>>391756>You're far more screwed up than I am.Now that's a gutbuster.
>WhyMostly, because I'm bored, and you have been making us bear witness to your mental health meltdowns on board for years, so we may as well get it out of your system now.
Now tell us more about the last time you were touched.
>>391758Yes, well if you're bored you can fap. I've expended all the good-faith I had in you. Congratulations, you're officially the worst, and coming from me that's saying something
>officially
Lol, lmao even. It really thinks we take it seriously.
>>391760If you didn't, you wouldn't respond. Turn-about is fair play. I've answered your questions, answer mine. Why are you so vile?
>>391761Tbh I think the vileness is justified. You've chased off plenty of people and made the community less fun over the years. People telling you to eat shit is long overdue.
>>391762We'll get to (you), I'm asking him
>>391761>I've answered your questions, answer mine. Alright then, that's fair.
>Why are you so vile?Because I'm sick of you, and I'm tired of being nice. My attempts to ignore or reason with you in a civil manner were futile, so instead I prefer to entertain myself in ascertaining why you are so pathetic and deranged.
>>391762This.
For years, his egotistical posturing has lowered site quality and driven off contentfags, and this site has payed a major price for it.
>>391764>My attempts to ignore or reason with you in a civil manner were futile, so instead I prefer to entertain myself in ascertaining why you are so pathetic and deranged.This. People here tried to give good faith discussion and you shat on all of them. Then you cry how people shit on you back. Fuck off.
>>391765For years I've watched this faggot repeat his same egotistical cycle as he wasted the time of people who came to this site for good faith discussion. I watched him autistically posture with his stupid non-arguments around good users, and I watched as one by one those users stopped posting entirely as the promise for quality discussion on /mlpol/ was not kept.
He acts like he owns the place because he's been here a while, but really in all those 8 years he took more than he gave.
>>391766>For years I've watched this faggot repeat his same egotistical cycle as he wasted the time of people who came to this site for good faith discussionI was gonna say the same, it's weird
Naturally, you will need to validate the claim of "good faith discussion", which is NOT evident atm
>>391766Are we going to do this in public?
>>391770You were given citations and counter arguments. You accused people of bad faith for doing just that. You then demanded that people sift through old posts and just listen and believe. Eat shit. No one is going to tell you you're a special boy.
>>391770>Naturally, you will need to validate the claim of "good faith discussion"Oh, sure, all those posters you drove away over the years were all bad faith. You alone are the good faith debater. You and boomer.
>Are we going to do this in public?It's already happening, you broken retard.
>>391771No, ONE of you was given PAGES of citations of links, and acted like a little shit, and was treated like one. That was page 1. Shall we turn the page on this retrospective?
>>391774>acted like a little shit, and was treated like oneIs that what your [information needed] said when he buttfucked you?
>>391774Pages full of obvious nonsense like germ theory denial. No one wants to sift through obvious bullshit. Meanwhile you were given academic sources and textbooks. You accused that of being in bad faith because the evidence given didn't tell you that you are a special boy.
>>391775Unlike (you) I don't know what it's like to be butt-fucked. My abuser was female.
Next?
>>391777>My abuser was female.Ooh, now we're getting somewhere.
>Next?Was it your mother? It would explain your infantile tendencies. Was it a other relative or caretaker? Did she stick things in your butt? Touch you inappropriately? Spank you for no reason?
Did you develop sexual neural deformities from it? Transexuality? Asexuality? Obscure fetishes (we already know you're a furry)?
>>391779You have a weird fixation with butts, you should talk to your provider about that.
>>391779Do you think you're making me look bad? Or are you illustrating your true nature?
>>391782Was I correct?
If my hypothesis is inaccurate, tell us what happened to you instead.
>>391781Ah, so it was an external molestation. Patients of your ilk have tendencies towards irrational defiance and pushing people away, which explains several of your posts.
>>391783>waxing idioticHave fun with that. I played along, all my answers were honest, but you're not interested in honesty. Many such cases (btw, dishonesty is what leads to jews)
>>391780I'm here for the show now. I think I've earned watching you get shit on after watching you chase good posters away.
>>391786I'll tell you right now all you need to do to prevent this kind of shit in the future is to prevent the behavior that led to this in the first place. Enforce good faith debate on /mlpol/ this is a politics board and discussion only works when people are arguing in good faith. Shouting "shill" at all opposition leads to paranoia and the destruction of the community at large.
>>391789Yes, but I don't give a shit about this thread because it is retarded to begin with and was asking for this sort of thing from the beginning. Forgive me for not noticing you devolving into shit flinging so intensely. I am fixing the problem now.
>>391791You could just prune it, if that's the case.
>>391791It's fine that you don't care about this thread. The problem of accusing opposition of being shills has been a problem for a long time now and it has led to a decline in users. We have an opportunity with newfags from the 4chan fags and we may soon have another opportunity with refugees from ourchan if their retarded leadership keeps doing what they are doing. This place could be lively again. Let's not drive out new users.
>>391792I will suggest that, but it is best that staff not delete threads based on autistic behavior if OP is not the one that is engaging in it. I am still going through the mountain of history to see if that is the case, but I am guessing that it is just sperging from people that can't just make a unique thread.
There is both a Bible thread and a pagan thread. Why can't you do battle in an organized manner like they do it?
>>391793Calling people a shill, though annoying, isn't against the rules on its own. You just have to power through a bit of that. If the problem persists where it is clear that it is not just someone mad about your position or too retarded to understand a position, report the post as it is in violation of rule #2.
>>391795>Calling people a shill, though annoying, isn't against the rules on its own.Making fun of people for being mentally ill faggots isn't against the rules either.
At first it was obnoxious cuz OP was clearly being a nonce on purpose, then it became amusing when some schizo (probably OP) sperged and strung along others into the spergfest, but after a week of nonstop sperging it became concerning.
>>391796Correct, which is why I was largely ignoring the thread because taking action on either side of the slap fight prematurely would not be wise. You are free to belittle someone for opinions here, even though I would not personally suggest it.
Just please go back on topic or make a new thread. Preferably a new thread because when a thread exists for this long with this much shit going around, it will just devolve again.
>>391795I get that it isn't against the rules. I'm saying it should be, along with other thought terminating clichés. Accusations of being a bad actors immediately put people in a defensive position where they have to "prove" they are legit despite many obvious good faith efforts to have a discussion. And it's only like 3 people doing this shit. I get that you support free speech, but accusing your opposition of sabotaging the site to avoid having a discussion seems like it would prevent political discussion. If we don't want political discussion why even have pol in the name?
>>391800You could just ignore the poster. Again, there is nothing forcing you to defend honor against someone that yells shill. If you are mentally incapable of ignoring though, then report it and I will see if there is any history of doing it. You can't just delete everyone that says the word shill on sight.
>>391802I don't think that the word shill should be banned on sight. I think using the accusation to avoid discussion should be banned. We have seen this game played out for years now and it has led to a decline in users.
>>391804I absolutely agree that it is a tactic that is designed to shut down discussion. I don't see the problem with ignoring it first though. The only ways the accusation can shut down discussion is by either convincing others or yourself to engage with the accusation. It is easy to maintain the discussion by replying to anyone else.
But regardless of how I feel about it, it is a violation of rule #2 anyway when used to try to target a user or thread. Just report the issue, as long as it is indeed an issue.
>>391804Consider it a learning experience. People CAN be assholes, and until we learn how to remote hack brain stems you can't really stop them. If it does happen, just realize that the guy isn't here for talking and just leave like an adult. Or be an egregious asshole back, if you wanna. Lurkers like me find it funny.
>>391807Being an asshole back seems to be the best course of action, but enough of that going back and forth will lead to a decline in the quality of the site.
>>391808Keep in mind the community is pretty small. Small enough that we can recognize posters by writing style.
>>391802>You could just ignore the poster.Ignoring them just means that they fill up the site with their sewage unopposed and act like they own the place, which drives away good users.
>>391808Tbh, I think we start being a lot more openly hostile to these sorts of faggots. They have gotten way too comfortable on right wing forums since 2021. Enough is enough.
>>391784This was my last post. I'm in the process of something related to my nephew, but trust that I'll be dropping MIRv grenades when I'm done
>>391787>I am absolutely fascinated in how broken and sad you areNot nearly as sad and broken as you, if thats what you're into. I'm sure you were just trying to be fake and edgy tho, no one thinks you're actually this assertive.
>>391789You (or one of you) led to this. You don't get to start making a mess and then complain when a mess is made, because someone joined you in making a mess. Yes, their hands are dirty, but who started it?
>>391791Awww, I was having fun
>>391792You could just stfu, likewise
>>391793>calling people shills is the problemNo, posters acting entitled and demanding things was the problem, the rest is consequential.
>>391796Nor is allowing posters to display their own malevolence!
>>391800>engage in the same purity spirals that the thread warns againstBruh
[Read more] >>391816It isn't unreasonable or "entitled" to ask someone to back up their position on a political discussion board.
>>391817Who asked? What I saw was juvenile demands
>>391818Nigger half your posts are about how you shouldn't have to "spoon feed" (see provide evidence). Jesus you really are asking for it. I hope the mods don't intervene the next time you get shit on.
Yes, one shouldn't have to spoon-feed petulant children. What's the confusion?
>>391819Sorry, not intending to deny a (you) or an image
>>391822>I shouldn't have to have honest discussion on a poltical discussion forum.>>391823I bet your happy you have the mods watching out for you.
>>391824I'm as surprised as you are, usually they give me a warning or a 3-day
knock on woodBut we've had a fun day of 'play' so I'll throw you a bone. She was the baby-sitter.
>391851
1. We do not read every single post posted to every single thread. We have jobs. We don't have the time to evaluate every single line of posts. We can generally weed out bot spam and CP posts because those look different from normal posts. What is harder to see is general derailing behavior.
2. Use the report function. That's what it's there for. If it's multiple posts in a repeated action, report multiple posts. Don't just bitch "why aren't mods observing this shit flinging contest I am involved in as heavily as I am?" We have better things to do with our time.
3. After receiving a report last night, we decided to stop the back and forth shit flinging and bring an end to it. What is your issue here? That you weren't the last person to fling shit? Too damn bad. We don't want to be on an image board where shit is being flung.
>>391852Shit-flinging is the natural state of imageboards. What kills imageboards isn't the shit-flinging, it's egotistical namefags who draw attention to themselves and make every discussion about themselves and call anyone who disagrees with them newfags because they're not also namefagging, while they themselves also keep shit-flinging. That's what killed ponychan, and it could just as easily kill us.
I have said my part now though. A decision has already been made. I will fuck off now.
>>391854Not even close. What kills imageboards is apathy, fueled by anons who fly-by-night, pretending to be "part of the group"
>Oooh, theres a new shiny over THERE?>proceeds to fuck off over there >>391854Use the report button. Just because you are reading the thread and familiar with everything that is happening in it does
not mean that moderation is.
>>391854>>391855Both of these things will destroy a community.
>>391858Nah. It is gaggers like OP with twilight zone breads like this one that messes everything up.
>>391862Other people were saying that they had noticed the same phenomenon as the OP. The thread is on topic and some of the discussion in this thread proves the observation has a basis in reality. Being against purity spiralling is probably good for a community.
>>391858Well now you're begging the question of what "is" an imageboard. Is it the users/culture? Is it what was established?
Is it destroying the /mlp/ community for Mlpol to exist? Clearly not.
The reality is - and this played out during the S harty-fag incident - is that:
Without 4chan, 4chan doesn't know where to go
>>391863>Being against purity spiralling is probably good for a communityThe anti-White community you meant.
Purity Spiraling is good as allows to weed subversives out. And there are a lot of them.
>>391863>purity spirallingBy the way, isn't this what anti-Whites call the "Woke Right"?
>>391882>Purity Spiraling is good as allows to weed subversives out. And there are a lot of them.That is not even close to true. You can still be a conspiratard and be subversive: see Project Mockingbird.
And spiralling is not good for anything, that's why it's called spiralling, as in spiralling out of control.
>>391882How does not believing x conspiracy make someone a subversive? Also I would suggest giving the following a read.
https://gildhelm.substack.com/p/the-northwest-territorial-failure >>391891>You can still be a conspiratard and be subversiveI see your point. But OP crossed the line with an over the top bluepill and that is inadmissible.
>>391892>Also I would suggest giving the following a read.I will, thank you.
>I'm all for people getting axed as long as it isn't me
Fucking typical
>>391896Sorry, I just jumped to the natural conclusion. Sorry for spoiling the end
>>391893What blue pill was in the OP?
>>391709>I think this bread is an attempt to use the concept of "Woke Right" but repacked as "Purity Spiraling". The goal is the same: to reduce resistance and counter attacks to subversive attempts.I don't think that's the case at all. Apart from all the hilarious side conversations about virology and uncle-touching, this thread is about OP raising a perfectly valid objection about the state of the online right. Over the course of the last 20 years or so, the old media landscape, where television and newspapers were a one-way conduit of information, has broken down and been replaced by online conversation. Subsequently, most of the old taboos have been done away with and subjects that were previously pushed into the margins of discussion are now up for debate.
The downside of this is that it's allowed a lot of fringe schizos pushing ridiculous, easily-debunkable nonsense theories to grab hold of the megaphone and take over the conversation. At best, this just adds noise to otherwise productive discussion, at worst it causes all of us to look ridiculous by association and causes us to lose ground. For example, arguing over silly theories about covid vaccines containing nanobots only serves to distract from the broader, more serious conversation about an untested, arguably unnecessary vaccine being pushed on the entire population without consent. Arguing about whether or not the earth is flat 500 years after the matter was settled only serves to distract from literally any productive conversation. And so on.
OP was right to bring this subject up. People with the sense to be skeptical of official narratives and official science should be equally or even more skeptical of online schizo theories.
[Read more] >>391910>schizo theoriesIt depends how knowledgeable you are. I read many anon affirming the the world is round, but none of them look like understand basic trigonometry, then to avoid a sterile argument with people who are ignoramuses, I stick to the following statement:
You can't explain a moron that is a moron, because is actually a moron. >>391912When you do explain is a moron you get shouted down as a shill though.
>>391915I'm sure you will frown at this meme and switch to character assassination to deflect. Math and geometry surely is not your strength.
>>391912>It depends how knowledgeable you are.My point is that if you're going to proclaim a theory you should be prepared to defend it, and if you're going to boost a sketchy theory from the internet then the burden of proof is on you, not the person you're arguing with. Being skeptical of official sources is one thing; sometimes authorities lie and sometimes they get things wrong. However, if you're going to push an idea that blatantly contradicts huge swaths of accepted science, the burden of proof is much, much higher. If you can't provide anything solid, it's within reason for people to dismiss your position outright, even if they don't know that much about the subject themselves.
> I read many anon affirming the the world is round, but none of them look like understand basic trigonometryI freely admit that I don't understand basic trigonometry. To tell you the truth, I don't even know what trigonometry actually
is. I barely passed every math class I've ever taken, and I stopped taking math after tenth grade because I don't need it and I'm not good at it. However, there are plenty of people out there who
do understand trigonometry, as well as many other subjects, who say that the earth is round, and I'm more inclined to believe them than you. The "glober" side of the argument includes pretty much the bulk of all scientists since Galileo; the "flat earther" side consists of a handful of high school dropouts doing meme-math on youtube. Moreover, we're not just talking about theoretical concepts like quarks and black holes whose existence is only proven by mathematics; we're not even talking about concepts that have only been proven in laboratory experiments.
Round earth is applied science; technology we use daily is based on the proven assumption that the earth is round. Anyone trying to argue the contrary will need to do better than just pointing to some dingus on YT dangling a plumb, and claiming that somehow it proves gravity isn't real.
>You can't explain a moron that is a moron, because is actually a moron.I may not know anything about trigonometry, but I know plenty about grammar. Yours is practically a war crime. What are you even trying to say here? Your flag is American; learn to speak English for fuck's sake.
>>391916I have no frame of reference for understanding what this is or what this proves. I suspect that neither do you. Either explain it or fuck off.
[Read more] >>391918>Either explain it or fuck off.The infographic explains with hard math that given a distance, a precise, measurable drop in the horizon will be observed, but nothing of this happens when experiments were are done. In simple words, there is not curvature and the establishment's scientists are liars.
>>391922Armchair math, debunked in the other thread as I recall. Meanwhile, these are NASA photographs of the earth taken from space.
>>391918There is a whole site dedicated to debunking this shit.
https://flatearth.ws/t/autocad >>391932See that's the other thing. Like all of this shit has been debunked multiple times by now, but he still posts the same stale meme and accuses those off disagreement of doing so in bad faith.
>>391936See and then you require others to believe that shit. The shear amount of people that would have to be in on this for it to be true is insane.
>>391937>The shear amount of people that would have to be in on this for it to be true is insane.Like the covid psyop. The paycheck of doctors and nurses trumps everything, including being co-conspirators and accessories in murder by killing the elders with redemsevir.
>>391938Yeah I really don't believe in the depopulation shit either.
>>391938How does
anyone benefit by claiming that the world is round when it is flat? What do they stand to gain?
>>391938All they had to do with covid was take advantage of people's existing panic and uncertainty to convince them to trade their liberties for safety from a simple flu. It's a completely different scale.
>>391922>but nothing of this happens when experiments were are doneWe already went over this, and cited dozens of peer-reviewed, recreatable experiments that showed the opposite of that. You ignored them, of course.
>>391936If you think they're CGI, why don't you comb through the data for artifacts to prove that?
>>391939>Yeah I really don't believe in the depopulation shit either.Yeah, like covidians are still dying.
>>391944The global population has not decreased in the past 5 years, so how is there depopulation?
>>391945According to who? Ah, the United Nations' data surely.
>>391946Okay, but what says there is depopulation?
There's no empty towns, no visible disruption to economic productivity, no mass graves. On what basis do you say the population is decreasing?
>>391944>Some rando died that means the world is ending!>>391946Can you prove the world population is decreasing? Or that everyone who says it is not is lying?
>>391947>There's no empty townsThe empty spots are being taking over by non-Whites if you didn't notice.
>>391949Have you noticed thousands of people dropping dead in your town before the shitskins came in?
Also, shitskins took the vaxx too.
>>391950Yeah, and I know personally quite a few with amputations, kidney removal, clots in the lungs and brain, and of course cancer.
>>391951I know hundreds of normies who took the stupid jab, and despite my disdain for idiots signing up to experimental treatments because they're scared of a cold, they're all still alive 4 years later.
Just because the experimental, rushed vaccine had side effects doesn't mean there's been depopulation. You are alleging depopulation with no evidence, nor do you seek out ways to prove it. It's been 4 years since it dropped, ffs.
>>391951I honestly don't know anyone who took it and had problems later. I mean I had a 75 year old uncle diagnosed with cancer 2 years after, but I don't think that can really be attributed to the covid vaccine.
>>391953>You are alleging depopulation with no evidenceWhite people is moving out, or, silently stopping walking the streets. As the number the people on the streets look the same, by gradually they are less and less Whites.
>>391957>As the number the people on the streets look the same, by gradually they are less and less Whites.That trend was going on long before the vaxx. Kind of why most of us moved to the big bad far right in the first place.
>>391958>That trend was going on long before the vaxx.Correct, but accelerated to match speeds after the vaxx.
>>391960My eyes don't lie, and I commute across 3 states regularly.
>>391961Really? I have to commute to a big city and traffic hasn't gotten any better nor are any of my vaxxed coworkers dead. You sure you aren't engaging in pattern seeking?
>>391963>You sure you aren't engaging in pattern seeking?Seriously? Is noticing now called pattern seeking? Gimma a break.
>>391964I don't think you are noticing anything. I think you are looking for shapes in clouds.
>>391964Another word for it is scrying
>>391957This was a thing even before the jab.
And that's not depopulation.
And moving out is not the same as dying.
>graduallyIt's been 5 years, and everything looks more or less the same.
>>391959With what evidence do you claim this? Anecdote?
>>391961So it is anecdote.
>>391964Seeking patterns is not the same as noticing them. It's chasing smoke in mirrors.
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>>391966>I think you are looking for shapes in clouds.Those are chemtrails, and their shape is engineered specifically to amplify 5G waves.
>>391977The government surveillance birds made them!
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>>391978>5GWhatever. There were and are hints everywhere.
>>392010Nobody here believes any of that.
>>390847>OP>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!Okay. Is this actually true? Let's find out.
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>>392010Do you think the people mocking the schizo retardation believe any of what that sign says? Disbelief = disloyalty
>>392012Wartime propaganda is justified, but it doesn't necessarily tell the truth.
>>392017>Wartime propagandaWell, even you are blind, not informed, a jew, or may be, just may be a shill willingly ignoring historical facts while calling them "propaganda". I say you are not stupid, but malicious instead (a repugnant shill is called).
Anyways, it is a reproduction from 1934, one year after the jews declared war on Germany and 5 years before Germany begun her intervention in Poland.
>>392020I would still call it wartime propaganda. Everyone knew what was coming. And a shill, really? Like you understand there are plenty of reasons to hate the kikes aside from retarded baby eating conspiracies, right? I can look at their ethnonepotistic attitude in industry and their hypocritical disavowing of the same behavior in other communities. I can watch as they use media and banking institutions to fuck over other communities for their benefit. I can read polls on how many Israelis agree with the "amalek" policy. Ect. All very observable and I don't have to believe in some secrete satanic society to see any of that.
>>392021>All very observable and I don't have to believe in some secrete satanic society to see any of that.I read the pics and they're not about theories at all, they mention names, dates, places. If you don't believe them is because you want to.
Your choice to search for that data to confirm it is always there.
>>392022These pics rely on cases where jews confessed under torture like with Simon of Trent or Father Thomas.
https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/display/document/obo-9780195399301/obo-9780195399301-0433.xmlhttps://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/5734456Again plenty of reasons to hate kikes without the secret satanic society shit. I don't need to believe in that nonsense to notice the pattern with people like Noel Ignatiev, Barbra Spectre, Tim Wise, and other (((fellow white people)))
>>392023>jews confessed under tortureA jew apologist. Dude just come clean and show your cut dick.
>>392024Yeah dude that was a thing in the middle ages. That doesn't mean that kikes are our friends as I have said many times now. It means I don't have a good reason to believe kikes eat babies. Plenty of reasons to believe they are against the interests of White people, but not so much on the baby eating.
>>392023I wish you would have the same tenacity to defend White People instead of shielding those who prey on us.
>>392026Why would you think I don't defend White people? Because I don't believe kikes eat babies? That's retarded. You're retarded.
>>392012>christian vangard>infra-abrahamic bickering article in a tabloid>christ-killing jewsAll the things the nazi party could've accomplished if they weren't taken over and destroyed from the inside-out by christians...
>>392032Don't put that on Christians. If the Nazis were intended to succeed, they wouldn't have had to abscond to Argentina
>>392026What makes you think he's doesn't defend white people just because he doesn't but into the satanic cannibalism conspiracy? It's not pro-jew to be skeptical of cannibalism conspiracies.
This is exactly what OP meant about conspiritard purity spiralling. He disagreed with you on a relatively far-fetched conspiracy, and you immediately accuse him of being anti-white.
>>392038>satanic cannibalism conspiracy?>conspiracyRead a book nigger.
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>>392012 refers to historical facts. Now the jews control police groups across countries and is unlikely you will hear today anything about it.
>and you immediately accuse him of being anti-white.Knock it off with the gaslighting.
I say what I see and I call you by what you are, a shill and anti-White.
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[Read more] >>392049>You're a shill for not believing in satanic baby eaters. If you find the torture confession evidence as lacking you must hate white people!Lol. Lmao even. The fact you think there is such an abundance of shills on mlpol of all places speaks to your diminished mental state. I hate kike psychiatrists, but you might benefit from antipsychotics if you think this place is filled with government agents.
>>392049Technically speaking, Masons control the police, who are controlled by the jews
>>392054You were given counter arguments and you shouted "shill" when they were presented. Not really a healthy coping mechanism for your issues.
>>392049>Knock it off with the gaslightingDo you even know what that word means?
>I say what I see and I call you by what you are, a shill and anti-White.Oh yes, being skeptical of conspiracies posted by Facebook boomers is totally anti-white behavior. I was totally paid to post here, because Jews totally pay people to post on sites with only a dozen active users.
I don't even deny the Jewish cannibalism thing; that's an idea I'm open to. I just think you're full of shit for thinking the other Anon is "anti-white" for being skeptical of it.