Set six years after season 6, Occupied Equestria presents an alternative history where Chrysalis chose a different approach to her second attack on Equestria. The Changelings have conquered half of Equestria, while a former Equestrian colony - soured to Princess Twilight's notion of harmony with all creatures thank to their dealing with griffins - Invaded and took the other half. In Baltimare and the Equestrian Southeast, the magic of friendship has weakened, as Communists, Changeling infiltrators, Fascists, gangs, and corrupt creepy politicians threaten the city. This role play is based in large part upon the Equestria at War mod for Hearts of Iron 4, and uses D&d 3.5e mechanics.
Silver is learning about foreign pony cultures, Dark Star is preparing to put on a play for the children of the Saint Prancis Orphanage, Onyx has received several possible missions from the government, Brie is buying clothing, presumably for a long journey. Ash and Iron are leaving the office of a now enraged gangster... or not.
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>>91407
Entering through the main entrance leads into a grand hall, with ticket booth over to the right, and over towards platforms on the left, with a large open area with high ceiling and tan marble floors in the center. Bathrooms are further towards the end and to the right
Kerr: "Wir müssen?"
Wesley: "Wuzo?"
Entering through the main entrance leads into a grand hall, with ticket booth over to the right, and over towards platforms on the left, with a large open area with high ceiling and tan marble floors in the center. Bathrooms are further towards the end and to the right
Kerr: "Wir müssen?"
Wesley: "Wuzo?"
>>91408
Brie looks at Wesley uncomprehendingly, then addresses Kerr. "Zur Zeit. Sie helfen uns, Tickets zu bekommen und in den Zug zu steigen, und sie schützen Sie, wenn wir in Schwierigkeiten geraten. Außerdem sehen Sie noch entzückender aus, und es kann bei der Suche nach Nahrung helfen." he says in a whisper, leading them toward the bathrooms, then loudly "Come along colts, we'll want to change before we buy our tickets."
Brie looks at Wesley uncomprehendingly, then addresses Kerr. "Zur Zeit. Sie helfen uns, Tickets zu bekommen und in den Zug zu steigen, und sie schützen Sie, wenn wir in Schwierigkeiten geraten. Außerdem sehen Sie noch entzückender aus, und es kann bei der Suche nach Nahrung helfen." he says in a whisper, leading them toward the bathrooms, then loudly "Come along colts, we'll want to change before we buy our tickets."
>>91394
You know what's funny? I actually didn't see your post where you casted the spell, so I was genuinely confused when he called Ash a witch.
You know what's funny? I actually didn't see your post where you casted the spell, so I was genuinely confused when he called Ash a witch.
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Is anypony here?
Corrected statement:
"Zum Bienenstock möchte ich ihre Hilfe, um Comte und seine Verbündeten zu bekommen"
Also, don't think I'm here yet
"Zum Bienenstock möchte ich ihre Hilfe, um Comte und seine Verbündeten zu bekommen"
Also, don't think I'm here yet
Does anypony have a good source to read about the Equestria at War mod? I'm having trouble finding details on the other Changeling queens.
>>91423
Like, how many Queens were there supposed to be? I read here earlier that there were supposed to be several of them in he united region, but I can't find anything about them.
Like, how many Queens were there supposed to be? I read here earlier that there were supposed to be several of them in he united region, but I can't find anything about them.
>>91423
The Wiki and the wiki alone. Aside from Chrysalis, there are only two Changeling queens: Queen Gytha is the Harmonist leader of Greneclyf, and Queen Oiren is the Fascist leader of Greneclyf. Note that the mod styles these as leaders of “clans” rather than gives, I guess as an adaptation of the Irish culture Greneclyf represents
>>91425
There is no information on any other queens in the Changeling Lands
The Wiki and the wiki alone. Aside from Chrysalis, there are only two Changeling queens: Queen Gytha is the Harmonist leader of Greneclyf, and Queen Oiren is the Fascist leader of Greneclyf. Note that the mod styles these as leaders of “clans” rather than gives, I guess as an adaptation of the Irish culture Greneclyf represents
>>91425
There is no information on any other queens in the Changeling Lands
>>91426
>Queen Gytha is the Harmonist leader of Greneclyf, and Queen Oiren is the Fascist leader of Greneclyf.
Hmmmmm. That's helpful. I think stuff should have been written about their personalities somewhere.
>clans
Are the queens necessarily the proginators of their respective clans? Like Bees?
>Queen Gytha is the Harmonist leader of Greneclyf, and Queen Oiren is the Fascist leader of Greneclyf.
Hmmmmm. That's helpful. I think stuff should have been written about their personalities somewhere.
>clans
Are the queens necessarily the proginators of their respective clans? Like Bees?
Shit, didn't mean to delete this one
>>91424
No. The Wikis are good for game stats, but i'm concerned with backstory, particularly the points where they differ from FiM setting.
The biggest concerning factor to the story is the presence of other queens besides Chrysalis, because that makes ending the war a lot more complicated.
I guess History Knowledge isn't a class skill for my character though.. so I guess it's a bit too meta to try to read into it too far…
Knowing some names would be a bit helpful though. I keep mentally approaching the world like it's FiM, but it seems to have meticulously deep background in some areas.
>>91424
No. The Wikis are good for game stats, but i'm concerned with backstory, particularly the points where they differ from FiM setting.
The biggest concerning factor to the story is the presence of other queens besides Chrysalis, because that makes ending the war a lot more complicated.
I guess History Knowledge isn't a class skill for my character though.. so I guess it's a bit too meta to try to read into it too far…
Knowing some names would be a bit helpful though. I keep mentally approaching the world like it's FiM, but it seems to have meticulously deep background in some areas.
>>91426
Which one was the one that is the leader of the Ling's hive? I know Silver told me, but I don't want to have to go digging through several multi-thousand post threads to find it.
Which one was the one that is the leader of the Ling's hive? I know Silver told me, but I don't want to have to go digging through several multi-thousand post threads to find it.
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>>91427
It’s really a question of how seriously you want to take the Changeling race. Changelings have three defining characteristics:
1. Parasitic/Succibi
2. Shapeshifters
3. Bee-like
All of these traits, I think, make them an interesting Always-Chaotic-Evil antagonistic race, but make them harder to normalize and make comparable to the other races. The show itself completely abandoned the parasitic nature of Changelings because that factor by itself is sufficient to make them dangerous and eternally anatagonistic. Any fan fic that tries to have good changelings can be guaranteed to downplay the parasitic aspect. Their nature as shapeshifters also varies. I think that having the ability to shapeshifters runs counter to the bee-like aspects. If you can disguise yourself as the enemy, and even walk right past them, why would you even bother to swarm undisguised? A Canterlot Wedding, interestingly, had a swarm of literal hundreds where every single Changeling took a disguise as one of the mane six. Other materials have tended to have changelings forgo the disguise in favor of just attacking en masse, like the later comics. Alternatively, they exclusively use the disguises to infiltrate, like in “To Where and Back Again,” and in the first comics. The show doesn’t seem to have any real limits on Changeling shape shifting: they can be rocks and they can be giant monsters. That seems kind of OP to me. Compare this to the Scootertrix Abridged, where changelings are restricted to taking the shapes of creatures of about the same size - which helps identifying one of them. The show entirely glosses over the fact that Changeling shapeshifting would allow them to basically get away with any crime, which ought to be a serious impediment to every trusting changelings in society even if they are not parasites.
How Bee-like the changelings are also varies. Generally, the more bee-like they are, the more “evil” they are, and vice versa, probably because being insect-like is alien, and the more difficult it is to sympathize with, the easier it is to place them in the Always-Chaotic-Evil role they fit so well. Some fan fics depict the changelings are basically the Borg with perfect specialization or conformity. In the show, we see that changelings hatch from eggs like insects, and there is a scene where we see a dozen of them crawling on (and in, since they go through her leg holes) queen Chrysalis, which is the closest thing we get to a confirmation that she is the literal biological mother of the changelings. But the season 8 Hearthwarming episode shows what is unambiguously intended to be a nuclear family, probably to make them seem less evil. Then there is the question of how much of a “hivemind” they are, which I will be honest and say I do not understand what that term is even supposed to mean, except that I think it means that individual creatures are linked telepathically and share a single consciousness. Before the Changeling transformation, all changelings share basically a single model. Afterwards, they vary in a number of particulars. I don’t think a single female model besides Chrysalis is seen prior to the transformation. In bees, all fertilized eggs result in a female bee, and all un-fertilized eggs result in male drones. If Changekings are like bees in regard, that would imply that the changelings are born of a virgin queen.
>>91431
Lacinia
[Read more] It’s really a question of how seriously you want to take the Changeling race. Changelings have three defining characteristics:
1. Parasitic/Succibi
2. Shapeshifters
3. Bee-like
All of these traits, I think, make them an interesting Always-Chaotic-Evil antagonistic race, but make them harder to normalize and make comparable to the other races. The show itself completely abandoned the parasitic nature of Changelings because that factor by itself is sufficient to make them dangerous and eternally anatagonistic. Any fan fic that tries to have good changelings can be guaranteed to downplay the parasitic aspect. Their nature as shapeshifters also varies. I think that having the ability to shapeshifters runs counter to the bee-like aspects. If you can disguise yourself as the enemy, and even walk right past them, why would you even bother to swarm undisguised? A Canterlot Wedding, interestingly, had a swarm of literal hundreds where every single Changeling took a disguise as one of the mane six. Other materials have tended to have changelings forgo the disguise in favor of just attacking en masse, like the later comics. Alternatively, they exclusively use the disguises to infiltrate, like in “To Where and Back Again,” and in the first comics. The show doesn’t seem to have any real limits on Changeling shape shifting: they can be rocks and they can be giant monsters. That seems kind of OP to me. Compare this to the Scootertrix Abridged, where changelings are restricted to taking the shapes of creatures of about the same size - which helps identifying one of them. The show entirely glosses over the fact that Changeling shapeshifting would allow them to basically get away with any crime, which ought to be a serious impediment to every trusting changelings in society even if they are not parasites.
How Bee-like the changelings are also varies. Generally, the more bee-like they are, the more “evil” they are, and vice versa, probably because being insect-like is alien, and the more difficult it is to sympathize with, the easier it is to place them in the Always-Chaotic-Evil role they fit so well. Some fan fics depict the changelings are basically the Borg with perfect specialization or conformity. In the show, we see that changelings hatch from eggs like insects, and there is a scene where we see a dozen of them crawling on (and in, since they go through her leg holes) queen Chrysalis, which is the closest thing we get to a confirmation that she is the literal biological mother of the changelings. But the season 8 Hearthwarming episode shows what is unambiguously intended to be a nuclear family, probably to make them seem less evil. Then there is the question of how much of a “hivemind” they are, which I will be honest and say I do not understand what that term is even supposed to mean, except that I think it means that individual creatures are linked telepathically and share a single consciousness. Before the Changeling transformation, all changelings share basically a single model. Afterwards, they vary in a number of particulars. I don’t think a single female model besides Chrysalis is seen prior to the transformation. In bees, all fertilized eggs result in a female bee, and all un-fertilized eggs result in male drones. If Changekings are like bees in regard, that would imply that the changelings are born of a virgin queen.
>>91431
Lacinia
>>91420
Kerr: “Gehst du den ganzen Weg in die Länder des Wechselbalgs?”
Wesley: “Wie trägst du diese Kleider?”
Kerr: “Gehst du den ganzen Weg in die Länder des Wechselbalgs?”
Wesley: “Wie trägst du diese Kleider?”
>>91434
to Kerr: "Ja, das ist die Idee. Wie heißen die Länder Ihrer Königin? Lacinia, IIRC"
to Wesley: "Lass mich dir das zeigen"
Assuming they're in the bathroom now, Brie begins by showing them how to put on clothes, exaggerating the process and describing what he is doing as he does so.
to Kerr: "Ja, das ist die Idee. Wie heißen die Länder Ihrer Königin? Lacinia, IIRC"
to Wesley: "Lass mich dir das zeigen"
Assuming they're in the bathroom now, Brie begins by showing them how to put on clothes, exaggerating the process and describing what he is doing as he does so.
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>>91435
Kerr: “Wir wurden in Vraks zu unserer Mutter Lacinia geboren”
Kerr is trying to put on the suit, but is having difficulty with his new body, specifically, the bat wings, which he struggles to place through the rear holes
Wesley: “Oh... okay”
He places it on, first almost putting in on backwards, before putting it on correctly. He looks uncomfortable, but smiles anyways
Kerr: “Wir wurden in Vraks zu unserer Mutter Lacinia geboren”
Kerr is trying to put on the suit, but is having difficulty with his new body, specifically, the bat wings, which he struggles to place through the rear holes
Wesley: “Oh... okay”
He places it on, first almost putting in on backwards, before putting it on correctly. He looks uncomfortable, but smiles anyways
>>91432
>If you can disguise yourself as the enemy, and even walk right past them, why would you even bother to swarm undisguised?
It could be that maintaining a disguise requires a degree of concentration.
Either that, or "average" changlings just aren't very clever when it comes to swarming: Locust-like mentality.
>Giant monsters
Only a couple changlings expressed the ability to turn into things bigger than themselves, and for game statistics, you could chalk that up to levels in Sorcerer or Warshaper. Most normal changlings seemed to have had a purely cosmetic disguise capability.
>the more bee-like they are, the more “evil” they are, and vice versa
In the game, they don't seem to have any group ideology other than their queens leadership. It wouldn't be far fetched to claim that their mannerisms could be influenced by their magical connections to their queens. Since the queen is evil, all of the hive are evil; like wasps, only the synchronity is magical instead of purely hormonal.
>If you can disguise yourself as the enemy, and even walk right past them, why would you even bother to swarm undisguised?
It could be that maintaining a disguise requires a degree of concentration.
Either that, or "average" changlings just aren't very clever when it comes to swarming: Locust-like mentality.
>Giant monsters
Only a couple changlings expressed the ability to turn into things bigger than themselves, and for game statistics, you could chalk that up to levels in Sorcerer or Warshaper. Most normal changlings seemed to have had a purely cosmetic disguise capability.
>the more bee-like they are, the more “evil” they are, and vice versa
In the game, they don't seem to have any group ideology other than their queens leadership. It wouldn't be far fetched to claim that their mannerisms could be influenced by their magical connections to their queens. Since the queen is evil, all of the hive are evil; like wasps, only the synchronity is magical instead of purely hormonal.
>>91436
to Kerr: "Hier, lass mich dir helfen." Brie assists him in placing the clothing on properly.
To Wesley: "Keine Sorge, dies ist eine vorübergehende Maßnahme. Irgendwie erwarte ich, dass die Reise kein Problem sein wird."
to Kerr: "Hier, lass mich dir helfen." Brie assists him in placing the clothing on properly.
To Wesley: "Keine Sorge, dies ist eine vorübergehende Maßnahme. Irgendwie erwarte ich, dass die Reise kein Problem sein wird."
>>91432
>I don’t think a single female model besides Chrysalis is seen prior to the transformation.
To be fair about that, they did all have a uniform appearance. The only thing masculine about their bodies was that they weren't at all pretty.
>I don’t think a single female model besides Chrysalis is seen prior to the transformation.
To be fair about that, they did all have a uniform appearance. The only thing masculine about their bodies was that they weren't at all pretty.
>>91439
>implying changelings have any non-queen/leader females
>implying that all the pastel changeling 'females' aren't just super-gay males
>implying changelings have any non-queen/leader females
>implying that all the pastel changeling 'females' aren't just super-gay males
>>91442
Yeah. I guess they didn't bother diversifying them in that regard.
>Tails
I must concur on that note though: the tails were supposed to be rotten wings in the first place, and when they changed they were all replaced with longer wing-tails.
It still looks like a masculine-looking model though, or at least a model devoid of any feminine traits.
Yeah. I guess they didn't bother diversifying them in that regard.
>Tails
I must concur on that note though: the tails were supposed to be rotten wings in the first place, and when they changed they were all replaced with longer wing-tails.
It still looks like a masculine-looking model though, or at least a model devoid of any feminine traits.
Also, why do changlings have better military tech in the game anyway? Shouldn't ponies be better at that kind of stuff?
Changlings on average never appeared to be very inventive creatures in the show, so it feels weird that they gave them that attribute in the game mod.
Changlings on average never appeared to be very inventive creatures in the show, so it feels weird that they gave them that attribute in the game mod.
>>91442
Wesley: "Wir werden mit dem Zug fahren"
Kerr: "Hast du gesehen, wie ich heute Kleidung trug? Ich mag sie auch nicht."
Brie says with a wink.
Wesley: "Wir werden mit dem Zug fahren"
Kerr: "Hast du gesehen, wie ich heute Kleidung trug? Ich mag sie auch nicht."
Brie says with a wink.
>>91445
How many ponies do we see doing inventive things in the show? Basically fucking none, so given the fact that we don’t see many changelings at all it’s not surprising we haven’t seen Nikolai Tesla or Alexander Grambell on screen. They wear the sane armor as the Equestrian Royal Guard or Crystal Guard, although sometimes styled a bit differently. Who is to say that they don’t invest more into research than ponies? Or less. And if you bother to play the mod, you see that they actually have fewer research slots early on than most pony nations.
>>91446
Kerr: “Ich meine diese Flügel”
Wesley: “Es wird eine lange Fahrt sein. Wie kommst du zurück?”
How many ponies do we see doing inventive things in the show? Basically fucking none, so given the fact that we don’t see many changelings at all it’s not surprising we haven’t seen Nikolai Tesla or Alexander Grambell on screen. They wear the sane armor as the Equestrian Royal Guard or Crystal Guard, although sometimes styled a bit differently. Who is to say that they don’t invest more into research than ponies? Or less. And if you bother to play the mod, you see that they actually have fewer research slots early on than most pony nations.
>>91446
Kerr: “Ich meine diese Flügel”
Wesley: “Es wird eine lange Fahrt sein. Wie kommst du zurück?”
>>91447
>Changlings
>Nazi parrallels
This irks me, but idk what I would have expected...
Still it doesn't really suit them at all. They never seemed very clever in any sort of way that didn't involve tricking people. They never really used any sorts of complicated tool, machinery, or infrastructure in the show.
Ponies on the other hand seemed much more inventive. They had all sorts of tools, and even railroads. Equestria always seemed to be the most developed region in the known world.
>Changlings
>Nazi parrallels
This irks me, but idk what I would have expected...
Still it doesn't really suit them at all. They never seemed very clever in any sort of way that didn't involve tricking people. They never really used any sorts of complicated tool, machinery, or infrastructure in the show.
Ponies on the other hand seemed much more inventive. They had all sorts of tools, and even railroads. Equestria always seemed to be the most developed region in the known world.
>>91448
>And if you bother to play the mod
I don't have access to a PC atm, so I'm only reading about it in terms of lore that may concern my character or the current story as it relates to d&d.
>And if you bother to play the mod
I don't have access to a PC atm, so I'm only reading about it in terms of lore that may concern my character or the current story as it relates to d&d.
>>91448
Kerr: "Diese Dinge haben mich aus einigen harten Kratzern geholt. Sie mögen unbeholfen wirken, aber sie leisten ihren Teil."
Wesley: "Meinen Sie nicht, wie kommen wir zurück?"
Kerr: "Diese Dinge haben mich aus einigen harten Kratzern geholt. Sie mögen unbeholfen wirken, aber sie leisten ihren Teil."
Wesley: "Meinen Sie nicht, wie kommen wir zurück?"
>>91449
>Doesn't like Changelings as Germans
What the fuck are they supposed to be like?
Did you know that German culture is one of only two cultures on the entire planet to have Changelings as a deep part of their mythology? Yes, that's right, Changelings are a subject of German folklore and not many other cultures. They have fairies that exchange human children for their own children. You can get Changelings to give you back your child by abusing the changeling, causing them to swap it back, and one way of discerning a Changeling from a regular child is by placing the suspected changeling in an oven. Changelings have a place in German culture, and they even have a word for it: "Wechselbalg." The only other culture with a strong Changeling mythology is Ireland. But in this universe, the Ireland parrellel is already taken by Greneclyff, and Ireland doesn't exactly make for a good, imperialistic, militaristic, hegemonic Empire. The only other culture with any serious Changeling mythology is Norway, but those are technically trolls, and in any event, Olenia is the Norway Parallel.
Whether you like it or not, and whether you want it or not, this is a WW2 based universe. That means that the antagonist must parallel one of the big empires of WW2. Germany and Japan are obvious, because they are hierarchical with strong leaders, collectivistic, aggressive, expansionistic, and Imperialistic. Using the Soviet Union wouldn't work as well because the role of Soviet parallel is already taken by Stalliongrad, and the Changelings, unlike the Soviet Union, are unashamed and upfront about their imperialism and hierarchy.
In some ways, Japan is a closer match for the Changelings than Germany. The ideology of the Changeling conquest is fairly close to Japanese style Imperialism, and they are also more "alien" to the main races in the way that the Japanese were to the Americans. But there was no way I was going to use Japanese as the language of teh Changelings. The reason is because I knew damned good and well that for dialogue, I would be reliant on Google Translate. I don't trust google translate as it makes many errors, and I cycle every translation through it many times to make sure that it actually says what I want it to say. I do not trust Google translate to very accurately translate english into a non-indo-European language and back again. Japanese also has the further problem of not using Roman lettering, which makes it harder to manually single out words to try to manipulate translations. So I figured that the best language to use would be an Indo-European langue that uses Roman lettering, because anything more foriegn may have translation issues. I can read and sort of understand Spanish, but in Texas, Spanish is a language of poor immigrants, a connotation that I can't easily shake from my mind, so I wasn't going to use that. Nothing seemed more appropriate than using German.
And yes, the Changelings in the mod are German. they use German tank models, German aircraft, and they even have a national spirit called "Canterlot defeat" which is a parallel to the national spirit in the vanilla game that represents the German defeat in WW1.
Further, there is a fascinating line in the Equestria at War mod that stuck out to me. It said that Chrysalis is from one of the northern hives, and "united all of the other hives." This makes it sound like the hives of the Changelings were were like the states of Germany, disunited into hundreds of little states, until one very strong, very aggressive, militaristic northern state - Prussia/Chrysalis - forcibly united all of them into a single superpower.
The Changeling hives, in that way, are like the German Kaiserreich. Many smaller states united under the hegemony of a monarch and a culture that is Imperialistic and Militaristic.
And if you don't like that, propose a better fucking solution that is actually logical, would work, and is interesting.
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[Read more] >Doesn't like Changelings as Germans
What the fuck are they supposed to be like?
Did you know that German culture is one of only two cultures on the entire planet to have Changelings as a deep part of their mythology? Yes, that's right, Changelings are a subject of German folklore and not many other cultures. They have fairies that exchange human children for their own children. You can get Changelings to give you back your child by abusing the changeling, causing them to swap it back, and one way of discerning a Changeling from a regular child is by placing the suspected changeling in an oven. Changelings have a place in German culture, and they even have a word for it: "Wechselbalg." The only other culture with a strong Changeling mythology is Ireland. But in this universe, the Ireland parrellel is already taken by Greneclyff, and Ireland doesn't exactly make for a good, imperialistic, militaristic, hegemonic Empire. The only other culture with any serious Changeling mythology is Norway, but those are technically trolls, and in any event, Olenia is the Norway Parallel.
Whether you like it or not, and whether you want it or not, this is a WW2 based universe. That means that the antagonist must parallel one of the big empires of WW2. Germany and Japan are obvious, because they are hierarchical with strong leaders, collectivistic, aggressive, expansionistic, and Imperialistic. Using the Soviet Union wouldn't work as well because the role of Soviet parallel is already taken by Stalliongrad, and the Changelings, unlike the Soviet Union, are unashamed and upfront about their imperialism and hierarchy.
In some ways, Japan is a closer match for the Changelings than Germany. The ideology of the Changeling conquest is fairly close to Japanese style Imperialism, and they are also more "alien" to the main races in the way that the Japanese were to the Americans. But there was no way I was going to use Japanese as the language of teh Changelings. The reason is because I knew damned good and well that for dialogue, I would be reliant on Google Translate. I don't trust google translate as it makes many errors, and I cycle every translation through it many times to make sure that it actually says what I want it to say. I do not trust Google translate to very accurately translate english into a non-indo-European language and back again. Japanese also has the further problem of not using Roman lettering, which makes it harder to manually single out words to try to manipulate translations. So I figured that the best language to use would be an Indo-European langue that uses Roman lettering, because anything more foriegn may have translation issues. I can read and sort of understand Spanish, but in Texas, Spanish is a language of poor immigrants, a connotation that I can't easily shake from my mind, so I wasn't going to use that. Nothing seemed more appropriate than using German.
And yes, the Changelings in the mod are German. they use German tank models, German aircraft, and they even have a national spirit called "Canterlot defeat" which is a parallel to the national spirit in the vanilla game that represents the German defeat in WW1.
Further, there is a fascinating line in the Equestria at War mod that stuck out to me. It said that Chrysalis is from one of the northern hives, and "united all of the other hives." This makes it sound like the hives of the Changelings were were like the states of Germany, disunited into hundreds of little states, until one very strong, very aggressive, militaristic northern state - Prussia/Chrysalis - forcibly united all of them into a single superpower.
The Changeling hives, in that way, are like the German Kaiserreich. Many smaller states united under the hegemony of a monarch and a culture that is Imperialistic and Militaristic.
And if you don't like that, propose a better fucking solution that is actually logical, would work, and is interesting.
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>>91452
>>91449
In short, Germany
1. Actually has a Changeling mythology
2. Is similar to the Changelings with regards to being a threatening military power that tries to expand itself and take colonies
3. Has a language that I can trust to go through google translate
4. Had a kind of comparable ideology and political structure in the time of the Second German Empire
There is not a single culture on Earth that has all four of those things besides Germany. Not a single culture. Prove otherwise, or shut the fuck up
>>91449
In short, Germany
1. Actually has a Changeling mythology
2. Is similar to the Changelings with regards to being a threatening military power that tries to expand itself and take colonies
3. Has a language that I can trust to go through google translate
4. Had a kind of comparable ideology and political structure in the time of the Second German Empire
There is not a single culture on Earth that has all four of those things besides Germany. Not a single culture. Prove otherwise, or shut the fuck up
>>91451
Kerr nods understandingly
Wesley: "Es ist einfacher einzusteigen als die Hegemonie zu verlassen"
Kerr nods understandingly
Wesley: "Es ist einfacher einzusteigen als die Hegemonie zu verlassen"
>>91453
>>91452
I wasn't reading into it that much. I was only slightly irked to see Germans compared to the main villains of FiM for reasons I assumed to be none other than that they were "evil".
>And if you don't like that, propose a better fucking solution that is actually logical, would work, and is interesting.
That wasn't my intent, but even if it was, it wouldn't matter.
>4. Had a kind of comparable ideology and political structure in the time of the Second German Empire
Ehhhhhh, maybe in an abstract, xenomorphic fashion.
>2. Is similar to the Changelings with regards to being a threatening military power that tries to expand itself and take colonies
I would argue with this point, but I feel it's best to agree to disagree for now.
>>91452
I wasn't reading into it that much. I was only slightly irked to see Germans compared to the main villains of FiM for reasons I assumed to be none other than that they were "evil".
>And if you don't like that, propose a better fucking solution that is actually logical, would work, and is interesting.
That wasn't my intent, but even if it was, it wouldn't matter.
>4. Had a kind of comparable ideology and political structure in the time of the Second German Empire
Ehhhhhh, maybe in an abstract, xenomorphic fashion.
>2. Is similar to the Changelings with regards to being a threatening military power that tries to expand itself and take colonies
I would argue with this point, but I feel it's best to agree to disagree for now.
>>91455
>Doesn't agree that the changelings and the Germans wanted to colonize vast tracts of land
How is this even disputable? Chrysalis obviously wanted to conquer Equestria. kaiser Wilhelm and Hitler both wanted to carve out an empire in the East, turning the Ukraine, Belorussia, and the Baltic into German colonial territory. For example, after the treaty of Brest-Litovsk, the German Army left a million and a half troops in the Ukraine and other territories to garrison these as German vassals. In particular, they hoped to take the wheat harvest of the Ukraine to supplement their own inadequate food supply. That million and a half troops that never made it to the Western Front in 1918 - in my opinion - probably caused them to lose the war. Hitler also annexed the sudentenland, western poland, Alsace Lurein, and took Bohemia, central Poland, and Slovakia as vassals, besides the beginnings of an attempt to do the same to the Ukraine, Belorussia, and the Baltic. I really don't see how you can deny the Imperial ambitions of either Chrysalis or Kaiser Wilhelm.
>Doesn't agree that the changelings and the Germans wanted to colonize vast tracts of land
How is this even disputable? Chrysalis obviously wanted to conquer Equestria. kaiser Wilhelm and Hitler both wanted to carve out an empire in the East, turning the Ukraine, Belorussia, and the Baltic into German colonial territory. For example, after the treaty of Brest-Litovsk, the German Army left a million and a half troops in the Ukraine and other territories to garrison these as German vassals. In particular, they hoped to take the wheat harvest of the Ukraine to supplement their own inadequate food supply. That million and a half troops that never made it to the Western Front in 1918 - in my opinion - probably caused them to lose the war. Hitler also annexed the sudentenland, western poland, Alsace Lurein, and took Bohemia, central Poland, and Slovakia as vassals, besides the beginnings of an attempt to do the same to the Ukraine, Belorussia, and the Baltic. I really don't see how you can deny the Imperial ambitions of either Chrysalis or Kaiser Wilhelm.
>>91452
So that's why the Greneclyf Changelings are Irish.
Anyways, if I remember correctly, Silver was sharing a moment with Blue over a recently opened container of what is presumably a rose/lavender flavored kind of kissel.
So that's why the Greneclyf Changelings are Irish.
Anyways, if I remember correctly, Silver was sharing a moment with Blue over a recently opened container of what is presumably a rose/lavender flavored kind of kissel.
>>91456
First of all, "colonizing" is far too friviloy of a term to describe the Changlings' invasion, because it assumes that a changeling enclave is anything but a a clear and menacing existential threat to all sapient creatures in the surrounding region. Changlings and ponies can never live peacefully with eachother, so a changling colony in pony territory is nothing more than an ongoing act of aggression to all adjacent ponies. Ponies cannot be converted into whatever excuse of a Nation that changelings possess, so a changling invasion is less of a colony than it is a highly organized program to torture and enslave the local population.
>Hitler also annexed the sudentenland, western poland
That was already German territory on a cultural standpoint.
And still, it's not comparable to changlings who, being literal monsters, only sought expansionism for the sake of subjugating any and all intelligent life around them for the sake of sucking the life out of them. Changelings don't have ideological or cultural reasons to expand their influence; their motives are purely malign and predatoy. They view ponies as food; as herd of resources that they can steal. When they annex pony territory, they obviously care more about the slaves than they do about the tracks of land. They're not colonizing nearly as much as they're hunting.
I can agree that she would have had some similarities to Wilhelm if she did have a backstory that revolved around unifying the existing changling kingdoms though.
[Read more] First of all, "colonizing" is far too friviloy of a term to describe the Changlings' invasion, because it assumes that a changeling enclave is anything but a a clear and menacing existential threat to all sapient creatures in the surrounding region. Changlings and ponies can never live peacefully with eachother, so a changling colony in pony territory is nothing more than an ongoing act of aggression to all adjacent ponies. Ponies cannot be converted into whatever excuse of a Nation that changelings possess, so a changling invasion is less of a colony than it is a highly organized program to torture and enslave the local population.
>Hitler also annexed the sudentenland, western poland
That was already German territory on a cultural standpoint.
And still, it's not comparable to changlings who, being literal monsters, only sought expansionism for the sake of subjugating any and all intelligent life around them for the sake of sucking the life out of them. Changelings don't have ideological or cultural reasons to expand their influence; their motives are purely malign and predatoy. They view ponies as food; as herd of resources that they can steal. When they annex pony territory, they obviously care more about the slaves than they do about the tracks of land. They're not colonizing nearly as much as they're hunting.
I can agree that she would have had some similarities to Wilhelm if she did have a backstory that revolved around unifying the existing changling kingdoms though.
>>91458
So assuming that both the Lings are fully dressed, Brie offers them a cloak. "Behalten Sie dies bei sich, falls Sie kalt werden". Unless they have further comments to interject, he would lead them to the ticket booth.
So assuming that both the Lings are fully dressed, Brie offers them a cloak. "Behalten Sie dies bei sich, falls Sie kalt werden". Unless they have further comments to interject, he would lead them to the ticket booth.
>>91459
Indeed he was. It's Silver's turn really, to make the next move
I thought it the greatest thing ever when I discovered that Greneclyf was Irish. It got a laugh out of me
>>91460
>That was already German territory on a cultural standpoint
Yes and no. Germany had asked for Danzig, and part of the western area of Poland, around Posen, had been German territory for around a few hundred years. These areas were integrated into the German Reich. Central Poland, however, was not culturally German. As a reflection of that fact, Central poland was placed under military administration. The same is true of Czechoslavakia. The German areas were annexed, the Slovakian areas were made into a puppet, and Bohemia/Czech areas were placed under military administration. Basically the same is true of everywhere the Germans invaded, with areas that were actually culturally German being annexed, some areas puppeted, and some places placed under military administration.
>changlings who, being literal monsters, only sought expansionism for the sake of subjugating any and all intelligent life around them for the sake of sucking the life out of them
Changelings in Equestria at War are not really existential or want to destroy everything. Really, they are more like brutal imperialists, but they are not genocidal. I think that the reason for this is that the base game - Hearts of Iron 4 - is pretty whitewashed, with no bombing of civilians, no POW camps, no Holocaust, no war crimes, no Japanese internment, no gulags, and so forth. The My Little Pony mod abided by that. At first. Later on, genocide, slavery, cannibalism, and sapient sacrifice were added into the game. But the Changeling hegemony was one first nations added into the game, so it is the cuddly white-washed version. It's kind of like NDSAP Germany in the vanilla game, which has no Holocaust, no war crimes, and is a nation the game makers actually recommend reviewers to play when testing out the game. Hearts of Iron 4 is the lighter and softer version of WW2, and the Equestria at War mod only became darker and edgier than the base game later into its development.
>it assumes that a changeling enclave is anything but a a clear and menacing existential threat to all sapient creatures in the surrounding region. Changlings and ponies can never live peacefully with eachother, so a changling colony in pony territory is nothing more than an ongoing act of aggression to all adjacent ponies. Ponies cannot be converted into whatever excuse of a Nation that changelings possess, so a changling invasion is less of a colony than it is a highly organized program to torture and enslave the local population.
Because you bothered to type out those words, I'm going to assume that the words "General Plan Ost," "Einsatzgruppen," "Auschwitz," and "Final Solution" are words that have no meaning to you, and that you refuse to believe that 1.5 million poles were killed by the Germans, millions of Soviet POWs were killed, or that there was a plan to deport and depopulate vast areas of the Soviet Union. But I don't see how you can deny that the NDSAP saw the struggle with the Judeo-Bolsheviks as an existential war where one must win
>>91461
"Ja"
"Okay"
The ticket booth has a great table of times and departures above it
[Read more] Indeed he was. It's Silver's turn really, to make the next move
I thought it the greatest thing ever when I discovered that Greneclyf was Irish. It got a laugh out of me
>>91460
>That was already German territory on a cultural standpoint
Yes and no. Germany had asked for Danzig, and part of the western area of Poland, around Posen, had been German territory for around a few hundred years. These areas were integrated into the German Reich. Central Poland, however, was not culturally German. As a reflection of that fact, Central poland was placed under military administration. The same is true of Czechoslavakia. The German areas were annexed, the Slovakian areas were made into a puppet, and Bohemia/Czech areas were placed under military administration. Basically the same is true of everywhere the Germans invaded, with areas that were actually culturally German being annexed, some areas puppeted, and some places placed under military administration.
>changlings who, being literal monsters, only sought expansionism for the sake of subjugating any and all intelligent life around them for the sake of sucking the life out of them
Changelings in Equestria at War are not really existential or want to destroy everything. Really, they are more like brutal imperialists, but they are not genocidal. I think that the reason for this is that the base game - Hearts of Iron 4 - is pretty whitewashed, with no bombing of civilians, no POW camps, no Holocaust, no war crimes, no Japanese internment, no gulags, and so forth. The My Little Pony mod abided by that. At first. Later on, genocide, slavery, cannibalism, and sapient sacrifice were added into the game. But the Changeling hegemony was one first nations added into the game, so it is the cuddly white-washed version. It's kind of like NDSAP Germany in the vanilla game, which has no Holocaust, no war crimes, and is a nation the game makers actually recommend reviewers to play when testing out the game. Hearts of Iron 4 is the lighter and softer version of WW2, and the Equestria at War mod only became darker and edgier than the base game later into its development.
>it assumes that a changeling enclave is anything but a a clear and menacing existential threat to all sapient creatures in the surrounding region. Changlings and ponies can never live peacefully with eachother, so a changling colony in pony territory is nothing more than an ongoing act of aggression to all adjacent ponies. Ponies cannot be converted into whatever excuse of a Nation that changelings possess, so a changling invasion is less of a colony than it is a highly organized program to torture and enslave the local population.
Because you bothered to type out those words, I'm going to assume that the words "General Plan Ost," "Einsatzgruppen," "Auschwitz," and "Final Solution" are words that have no meaning to you, and that you refuse to believe that 1.5 million poles were killed by the Germans, millions of Soviet POWs were killed, or that there was a plan to deport and depopulate vast areas of the Soviet Union. But I don't see how you can deny that the NDSAP saw the struggle with the Judeo-Bolsheviks as an existential war where one must win
>>91461
"Ja"
"Okay"
The ticket booth has a great table of times and departures above it
>>91462
Go straight for the dine & dash, Silver! Show her how age is important due to higher experience!
Go straight for the dine & dash, Silver! Show her how age is important due to higher experience!
>>91462
I thought it was neat when I learned that Pondihean (really hope I spelled that right) was Scottish.
Silver turns to Blue, still looking confused but hopeful at the chance to try out a flavor of kissel he's never had. "This will be new experience for both of us, if you have not had this before. I can say I have never had flowery кисель before."
I thought it was neat when I learned that Pondihean (really hope I spelled that right) was Scottish.
Silver turns to Blue, still looking confused but hopeful at the chance to try out a flavor of kissel he's never had. "This will be new experience for both of us, if you have not had this before. I can say I have never had flowery кисель before."
>>91466
"The harder and more painful the bee stings, the sweeter the honey. Is the honey of the most ferocious of all bees too sweet for ponies?"
"The harder and more painful the bee stings, the sweeter the honey. Is the honey of the most ferocious of all bees too sweet for ponies?"
>>91468
They say his confusion grew three sizes that day. "I do not believe I have ever heard that phrase before, but it would suggest that it is at least edible, or not poisonous."
They say his confusion grew three sizes that day. "I do not believe I have ever heard that phrase before, but it would suggest that it is at least edible, or not poisonous."
>>91462
>Really, they are more like brutal imperialists
For what cause though? To make all other creatures as loathesome and devoid of life as them? Chrysalis never expressed any willingness to rule over ponies; she only ever wanted more power for herself, and more livestock to feed her offspring.
Without the intent to create a greater society with those you spread your influence to, impetualism is only the brutal extraction of resources at the expense of the nationals. It seems like they have very few motives than to expand their access to resources (see: ponies), all the while causing misery to all creatures in their wake.
>they are not genocidal
Yeah, but capturing their enemies and enslaving them so that they may suck their souls out is nearly as bad; it may not be genocidal, but it's still mass-scale predation. And changlings are only not genocidal because they're a perpetual minority and they'd be doomed if they burned out their own prey.
However, any creature with a brain should have a good reason to fear and oppose rule by the ruthless and barbaric creatures who aren't capable of feeling love and care for nothing more than to extract love from their beings.
But if I may get to the root of my point:
An imperialist has a cause; a desire to build greater a society, and ideological reason to spread it to neighboring regions. Impetialists can at least pretend to have good intentions for the people they spread their influence to. Changlings do not have the benefit of supposed benevolence, in any way shape or form.
Changlings do not express any willingness to become anything greater than themselves, nor are they seeking to make the world a better place in the making of their empire. Their militarism and feudalist expansionism is evidently rooted in the fact that they're not really culturally capable of living any other way as they currently are.
And while I meant it as just a brief side note, I was just slightly peeved to see the Germans, whome I admire, be so nonchalantly compared to souless, parasitic insectoids. But again, it happens in a lot of different franchises, so I'm not surprised.
[Read more] >Really, they are more like brutal imperialists
For what cause though? To make all other creatures as loathesome and devoid of life as them? Chrysalis never expressed any willingness to rule over ponies; she only ever wanted more power for herself, and more livestock to feed her offspring.
Without the intent to create a greater society with those you spread your influence to, impetualism is only the brutal extraction of resources at the expense of the nationals. It seems like they have very few motives than to expand their access to resources (see: ponies), all the while causing misery to all creatures in their wake.
>they are not genocidal
Yeah, but capturing their enemies and enslaving them so that they may suck their souls out is nearly as bad; it may not be genocidal, but it's still mass-scale predation. And changlings are only not genocidal because they're a perpetual minority and they'd be doomed if they burned out their own prey.
However, any creature with a brain should have a good reason to fear and oppose rule by the ruthless and barbaric creatures who aren't capable of feeling love and care for nothing more than to extract love from their beings.
But if I may get to the root of my point:
An imperialist has a cause; a desire to build greater a society, and ideological reason to spread it to neighboring regions. Impetialists can at least pretend to have good intentions for the people they spread their influence to. Changlings do not have the benefit of supposed benevolence, in any way shape or form.
Changlings do not express any willingness to become anything greater than themselves, nor are they seeking to make the world a better place in the making of their empire. Their militarism and feudalist expansionism is evidently rooted in the fact that they're not really culturally capable of living any other way as they currently are.
And while I meant it as just a brief side note, I was just slightly peeved to see the Germans, whome I admire, be so nonchalantly compared to souless, parasitic insectoids. But again, it happens in a lot of different franchises, so I'm not surprised.
>>91469
She smiles again
"This is Changeling honey. Taken off the possessions of a Hegemony operative posing as Stalliongradian Special Operations
>>91470
Sigh
The Changelings in Equestria at War are toned down relative to the Changelings in the comics. Okay? They don't eat souls, or if they do, it's not as explicit as in the comics
She smiles again
"This is Changeling honey. Taken off the possessions of a Hegemony operative posing as Stalliongradian Special Operations
>>91470
Sigh
The Changelings in Equestria at War are toned down relative to the Changelings in the comics. Okay? They don't eat souls, or if they do, it's not as explicit as in the comics
>>91471
There's a couple seconds of silence, though it is less stunned as it is just letting that particular bit of information soak in, followed immediately by just the faintest widening of his eyes. A solitary "Oh" escapes his lips as he begins to regard the jar as not so much a potentially delicious desert from his homeland but as what he now knows it actually is.
I imagine Silver would know what that is, but for me I am going to take a wild guess here and say "aphrodisiac".
There's a couple seconds of silence, though it is less stunned as it is just letting that particular bit of information soak in, followed immediately by just the faintest widening of his eyes. A solitary "Oh" escapes his lips as he begins to regard the jar as not so much a potentially delicious desert from his homeland but as what he now knows it actually is.
I imagine Silver would know what that is, but for me I am going to take a wild guess here and say "aphrodisiac".
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>>91472
She breaks the silence
"Since you were keeping a couple young drones, I thought I would show you this, since it would help with the special dietary needs"
She breaks the silence
"Since you were keeping a couple young drones, I thought I would show you this, since it would help with the special dietary needs"
>>91476
"Well, I appreciate it, thank you. I...especially did not expect this to be Changeling honey." He looks at the jar once more, still with some level of confusion. "I am little bit interested in what you said though: is it edible for us ponies?"
"Well, I appreciate it, thank you. I...especially did not expect this to be Changeling honey." He looks at the jar once more, still with some level of confusion. "I am little bit interested in what you said though: is it edible for us ponies?"
>>91471
>They don't eat souls
Then why does their parasitism cause level loss?
Whatever Changlings are eating that us called 'love', it has to be a sort of spiritual essence that they have to steal from ponies because they were created without the means to generate it themselves. Chrysalis used the love she took from Shining Armor to empower herself, so she was at least siphoning some kind of magical property.
But what would be happening to all the ponies they've captured though; like the princesses and the mane 6? Are they being chained and tortured so that Changlings can whittle away at their sanity day after day while they feed off their essence? Or are they being kept in giant disgusting green cocoons so that their life forces can be harvested for energy? Maybe they're being forced to labor at the expense of their captors, treated like animals as a slave cast. Only time could tell, but it doesn't sound that good, because I doubt that the Changlings would have had any plan to just hand all captured ponies free citizenship in their expanded empire.
If Chrysalis is anywhere near as evil and sadistic as she is in FiM, she's almost certainly not treating them well.
Obviously, war games don't go into detail for this kind of thing, but the ramifications of living under the imperial rule of loveless parasitic insectoids who have no concern for your well being is absolutely horrifying when you think about it. It'd be like the Holocaust, except it would actually happen.
Anyway, Changlings are malignant, evil and fundamentally predatory creatures who are an inherent danger to ponies and their way of life in their conquest. The Nazis were absolutely not, even if they've been smeared by (((historians))), and I just felt like pointing it out for some reason... I'll shut up now...
[Read more] >They don't eat souls
Then why does their parasitism cause level loss?
Whatever Changlings are eating that us called 'love', it has to be a sort of spiritual essence that they have to steal from ponies because they were created without the means to generate it themselves. Chrysalis used the love she took from Shining Armor to empower herself, so she was at least siphoning some kind of magical property.
But what would be happening to all the ponies they've captured though; like the princesses and the mane 6? Are they being chained and tortured so that Changlings can whittle away at their sanity day after day while they feed off their essence? Or are they being kept in giant disgusting green cocoons so that their life forces can be harvested for energy? Maybe they're being forced to labor at the expense of their captors, treated like animals as a slave cast. Only time could tell, but it doesn't sound that good, because I doubt that the Changlings would have had any plan to just hand all captured ponies free citizenship in their expanded empire.
If Chrysalis is anywhere near as evil and sadistic as she is in FiM, she's almost certainly not treating them well.
Obviously, war games don't go into detail for this kind of thing, but the ramifications of living under the imperial rule of loveless parasitic insectoids who have no concern for your well being is absolutely horrifying when you think about it. It'd be like the Holocaust, except it would actually happen.
Anyway, Changlings are malignant, evil and fundamentally predatory creatures who are an inherent danger to ponies and their way of life in their conquest. The Nazis were absolutely not, even if they've been smeared by (((historians))), and I just felt like pointing it out for some reason... I'll shut up now...
>>91479
I don't think it's explicit level loss. More like complete apathy if enough love is succ'd. He never specified it when Iron, Silver or others got their love sucked.
I don't think it's explicit level loss. More like complete apathy if enough love is succ'd. He never specified it when Iron, Silver or others got their love sucked.
>>91481
inb4 it's an aphrodisiac and sex ensues.
Or, more likely, it's just honey that makes Silver feel sick.
inb4 it's an aphrodisiac and sex ensues.
Or, more likely, it's just honey that makes Silver feel sick.
>>91479
I've already explained this to you repeatedly. The Nazis in Hearts of Iron 4 are extremely whitewashed with no holocaust, no Einsatzgruppen, and no systematic starvation of POWs of Slavic descent. The Changelings, based on the Whitewashed Nazis, are kind of also more so brutal conquerors than explicit war criminals.
>It'd be like the Holocaust
Jesus fucking Christ, that's my point. The company that makes Hearts of Iron 4 has very explicitly stated that they do not want their game to be a "Holocaust simulator"or banned in the German market. As such, the game - and we are talking about a widely sold real time strategy game here - does not have concentration/POW/Internment camps, or firebombing, or rape, or whatever. In fact, talking about those things on the official Paradox forums is banned. The original My Little Pony mod mostly obeyed these restrictions. It has no genocide, only mild war crimes, and the soul-eating aspect is not explicitly mentioned and at best implied. They stopped abiding by the "not a Holocaust simulator" rule after about a year of writing and modifying the game. If you want a real Nazi parallel, play the Reformisten campaigns of Hellquil and Longsword. Those are very explicitly genocidal.
>The Nazis were absolutely not
You know the Einsatzgruppen were a real thing, right? Right?
>>91481
"That... isn't what I had in mind when I thought of showing this to you, but... sure?"
[Read more] I've already explained this to you repeatedly. The Nazis in Hearts of Iron 4 are extremely whitewashed with no holocaust, no Einsatzgruppen, and no systematic starvation of POWs of Slavic descent. The Changelings, based on the Whitewashed Nazis, are kind of also more so brutal conquerors than explicit war criminals.
>It'd be like the Holocaust
Jesus fucking Christ, that's my point. The company that makes Hearts of Iron 4 has very explicitly stated that they do not want their game to be a "Holocaust simulator"
>The Nazis were absolutely not
You know the Einsatzgruppen were a real thing, right? Right?
>>91481
"That... isn't what I had in mind when I thought of showing this to you, but... sure?"
>>91480
Energy Drain is level loss. It's the draining of the soul. If you lose more levels than you have, you die.
Either way that's still awfully close to vampirism when coupled with the fact that they're hollow creature that are inca. Changlings are evil on a fundamental level; and they were definitely meant to be portrayed as loathesome and incomplete creatures in the show.
Energy Drain is level loss. It's the draining of the soul. If you lose more levels than you have, you die.
Either way that's still awfully close to vampirism when coupled with the fact that they're hollow creature that are inca. Changlings are evil on a fundamental level; and they were definitely meant to be portrayed as loathesome and incomplete creatures in the show.
>>91483
"It is made of same life energy changelings draw from us when they feed, if I remember correctly. Right?" He trots over to Blue's kitchen, looking for a pair of spoons for them.
"It is made of same life energy changelings draw from us when they feed, if I remember correctly. Right?" He trots over to Blue's kitchen, looking for a pair of spoons for them.
>>91485
They are oppressed under Changeling rule, with a news event mentioning that food is stolen, among other things. Zecora launches a resistance, which is swiftly crushed. You can tell from Changeling focuses that they are conscripting ponies into work-battalions as essentially slave labor, and moving some of them into Changeling territory ( like Poles in Nazi Germany). But really, it's a grand strategy game. You never see individual ponies. You only see states and divisions of tens of thousands of them. You can't tell what is happening. Changelings do have technologies relating to "improved love extraction"
>>91486
"Yes, in condensed form"
Blue is fairly messy. The tea spoons from earlier were never really put away, just placed in cups in the sink
They are oppressed under Changeling rule, with a news event mentioning that food is stolen, among other things. Zecora launches a resistance, which is swiftly crushed. You can tell from Changeling focuses that they are conscripting ponies into work-battalions as essentially slave labor, and moving some of them into Changeling territory ( like Poles in Nazi Germany). But really, it's a grand strategy game. You never see individual ponies. You only see states and divisions of tens of thousands of them. You can't tell what is happening. Changelings do have technologies relating to "improved love extraction"
>>91486
"Yes, in condensed form"
Blue is fairly messy. The tea spoons from earlier were never really put away, just placed in cups in the sink
>>91483
Do you seriously think that the Nazis in their cause were really comparable to a swarm of evil, soulless insectoids invading other lands for the sole purpose of feeding off of their captives?
Do you seriously think that the Nazis in their cause were really comparable to a swarm of evil, soulless insectoids invading other lands for the sole purpose of feeding off of their captives?
>>91487
Silver wonders silently to himself if it would be rude, next time he visits, to do her dishes for her. For the sake of the here-and-now, he just grabs the pair of tea spoons and gives them a quick wash to avoid contamination of the honey. "Perhaps, then, it would even have beneficial effect on us?" Once he's finished, he returns back to the bed, holding out one of the spoons in his magic grasp for Blue to take.
Silver wonders silently to himself if it would be rude, next time he visits, to do her dishes for her. For the sake of the here-and-now, he just grabs the pair of tea spoons and gives them a quick wash to avoid contamination of the honey. "Perhaps, then, it would even have beneficial effect on us?" Once he's finished, he returns back to the bed, holding out one of the spoons in his magic grasp for Blue to take.
>>91490
"I can imagine why. I suppose we should consider this rare opportunity." He scoops out a spoonful of the honey, waiting for Blue to get her own so they can try it together. "Cheers."
"I can imagine why. I suppose we should consider this rare opportunity." He scoops out a spoonful of the honey, waiting for Blue to get her own so they can try it together. "Cheers."
>>91490
No, I mean in the metaphysical and unequivocal evil of their intentions that supercede any promise of a better future.
Love feeding, no matter how severe or light it may be, is still absolutely evil if it's done through forceful military means. Changlings have no good intentions when attacking ponies.
Ponies should be ruled by ponies. Changlings exacting their rule over ponies is nothing short of the enslavement of an entire people, with no fleeting promise of potentially bettering their lives.
No, I mean in the metaphysical and unequivocal evil of their intentions that supercede any promise of a better future.
Love feeding, no matter how severe or light it may be, is still absolutely evil if it's done through forceful military means. Changlings have no good intentions when attacking ponies.
Ponies should be ruled by ponies. Changlings exacting their rule over ponies is nothing short of the enslavement of an entire people, with no fleeting promise of potentially bettering their lives.
>>91493
With a shared smile, Silver places his spoon of the Changeling honey into his mouth, flipping it upside down and taking all of the substance off the spoon with his tongue, before pulling the spoon from his mouth with an audible pop. He plays around with the honey before he swallows, getting a feel for its taste, texture, and consistency, before leaning his head back and swallowing it down.
With a shared smile, Silver places his spoon of the Changeling honey into his mouth, flipping it upside down and taking all of the substance off the spoon with his tongue, before pulling the spoon from his mouth with an audible pop. He plays around with the honey before he swallows, getting a feel for its taste, texture, and consistency, before leaning his head back and swallowing it down.
>>91492
I mean, seriously...
Nazis had good intentions, and people who appreciated them for what they did.
Changelings do not yet any means.
I mean, seriously...
Nazis had good intentions, and people who appreciated them for what they did.
Changelings do not yet any means.
>>91494
>Taste
Actually, it's not very good. It's kind of disgusting tasting, actually. The honey tastes sweet. Very sweet. Much sweeter than sugar. The most accurate comparison would be if Silver had placed a concentrate of Saccharine right into his mouth. For something he's more likely to have actually tasted: the water of rotting fruit
>Texture
Completely smooth, and a bit gooey. A little sticky
>Consistency
It's a pure gel. Basically, it feels the same as bee honey in his mouth
>Taste
Actually, it's not very good. It's kind of disgusting tasting, actually. The honey tastes sweet. Very sweet. Much sweeter than sugar. The most accurate comparison would be if Silver had placed a concentrate of Saccharine right into his mouth. For something he's more likely to have actually tasted: the water of rotting fruit
>Texture
Completely smooth, and a bit gooey. A little sticky
>Consistency
It's a pure gel. Basically, it feels the same as bee honey in his mouth
>>91496
Silver gives the spoon he used for the Changeling honey an odd, sour look, obviously not having expected the taste. "...Ponies who ate this in past might have called this 'delicacy', I think."
Silver gives the spoon he used for the Changeling honey an odd, sour look, obviously not having expected the taste. "...Ponies who ate this in past might have called this 'delicacy', I think."
>>91502
Now it hits him. A feeling of complete Europhoria, joy rushing in. The colors of objects around him shine more brightly. The tiger orange of the wall paintings shines more intently, Blue Skie's mane glimmers almost like Luna's, the lavender color of the honey itself seems to glow. And the feeling... Well, to say that it feels like the passion of love in youth would be trite... but really, there is no better term for it. In that moment, Silver can feel a greater connection with those around him. A feeling of connection to the world as a whole. A feeling of higher purpose, of bonding with that higher purpose, of bonding with the ponies around him. An almost youthful vigor flows into him
Now it hits him. A feeling of complete Europhoria, joy rushing in. The colors of objects around him shine more brightly. The tiger orange of the wall paintings shines more intently, Blue Skie's mane glimmers almost like Luna's, the lavender color of the honey itself seems to glow. And the feeling... Well, to say that it feels like the passion of love in youth would be trite... but really, there is no better term for it. In that moment, Silver can feel a greater connection with those around him. A feeling of connection to the world as a whole. A feeling of higher purpose, of bonding with that higher purpose, of bonding with the ponies around him. An almost youthful vigor flows into him
>>91505
Reminds me of Liquid Pain from the BoVD. Maybe he'll get addicted to it and spiral into madness.
Reminds me of Liquid Pain from the BoVD. Maybe he'll get addicted to it and spiral into madness.
>>91487
>Changelings do have technologies relating to "improved love extraction"
I still can't stop thinking of The Scream Extractor from the Monster's Inc movie...
>Changelings do have technologies relating to "improved love extraction"
I still can't stop thinking of The Scream Extractor from the Monster's Inc movie...
>>91506
Now now. No need to act so negatively towards bug monsters that literally suck the joy out of you, although it's a good thing because I'm pretty sure the GM wanted them to be one of the baddies.
Apart from commies of course.
Now now. No need to act so negatively towards bug monsters that literally suck the joy out of you, although it's a good thing because I'm pretty sure the GM wanted them to be one of the baddies.
Apart from commies of course.
>>91503
Silver drops the spoon in his magic grasp in surprise. He almost chokes at the sudden feeling, and he might actually have if it weren't for him shouting in his native tongue: "Ебена мать!" He lets out a small joyful chuckle, patting his clothed chest with his forehooves as he practically savors this new, wonderful feeling. Is this what changelings feel like when they feed? Is this what the pure life essence of ponykind is like?
He looks to Blue, admiring how her mane seems to glimmer, and how her blue coat shines. He reaches out to her with this newfound desire to get to know her better, to bond with her. There's so much he doesn't understand about her. He hardly understands her, the more he thinks about it. He wants to understand his friend. "Blue...are you seeing any of this?"
Silver drops the spoon in his magic grasp in surprise. He almost chokes at the sudden feeling, and he might actually have if it weren't for him shouting in his native tongue: "Ебена мать!" He lets out a small joyful chuckle, patting his clothed chest with his forehooves as he practically savors this new, wonderful feeling. Is this what changelings feel like when they feed? Is this what the pure life essence of ponykind is like?
He looks to Blue, admiring how her mane seems to glimmer, and how her blue coat shines. He reaches out to her with this newfound desire to get to know her better, to bond with her. There's so much he doesn't understand about her. He hardly understands her, the more he thinks about it. He wants to understand his friend. "Blue...are you seeing any of this?"
>>91509
Understandable. Leeches and other parasitic relationship usually makes people think a sense that the parasite is uneeded overall. Apart from that, vampires were meant to be portrayed negatively, since they were a symbolic representation of the high class draining the life of the working class.
Understandable. Leeches and other parasitic relationship usually makes people think a sense that the parasite is uneeded overall. Apart from that, vampires were meant to be portrayed negatively, since they were a symbolic representation of the high class draining the life of the working class.
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