/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

>>158725
This.

>>158725
From whom would you accept verification?

>>158727
The logical answer is that at least one signatory of the Antarctic Treaty must denounce it and open the window for independent, non government related explorers step on site.

>>158729
Non government entities go there all of the time, like Japs with their illegal whaling. Would any of their testimonies be sufficient?

>>158730
>Non government entities go there all of the time
Nobody can go under the 60th parallel without government permission and even if allowed a government chaperon will indicate where to go.
Flat Earthers gotta point.

>>158733
Calm down OP.
If it is about history, then Antarctica's history comes under fire right here because of an extremely narrow selection of available sources. They are all government sponsored and under direct UN supervision.

>>158734
>calm down
Get fucked. If you cant keep flat earth shit in its containment thread, you deserve all the salt.
>Antarctica's history
No contest, poke all the holes you want. Theres enough shenanigens for the whole group to discuss. However, this thread is NOT for one to take the observable inconsistencies and then spin ridiculous theories in which the laws of physics suddenly stop working at a certain point cuz reasons 'and you didnt see it so you cant deny it'-type fantacizing.
Thats what the actual flat earth thread is for.
Its simple. This thread is for refutation of history, THAT thread is for fantasizing about what it 'could' mean (but doesnt, because of those endemic phenomenon I allude to in the redpost, that I really ahouldnt have to specify but hey, current year amirite?)

>>158735
>This thread is for refutation of history, THAT thread is for fantasizing about what it 'could' mean
B-but you are accepting stories without any possibility of confirmation, see >>158717
If the thread is going to have any factual rigor, then I suggest to keep Antarctica out of the question.

>>158736
The only person who could refute that video is someone attempting to assert that Antarctica is an ice wall, something there is no evidence for other than fanciful speculation and visualization.
Im not trying to make auch a claim, Im suggesting there is plenty under antarctica that remains unrevealed, and that video suggests the same thing.

>>158737
I'm not trying to create a polemic, but by fetching Antarctica you're inviting flat earthers. Just saying.

>>158738
Flat earthers feel 'invited' regardless of mentioning Antarctica, they're up there with vegans like that. Having said (not directed at (you))
This post and this previous post >>158733 with dubs should make very clear that flat earth exposition is NOT part of the thread topic, that it belongs in the flat earth thread, and any attempt to do so ITT is a deliberate derail.

>>158739
>is a deliberate derail
I don't think so. But because of your apparent RED triggering, the debate is delayed for another day.

>>158741
Knock it off.

Here's a mathematical key to knowledge that makes for a good, concise reference that will be essential later on
https://youtu.be/OXbVZc10lnk

This in conjunction and as a whimsical caveat
https://youtu.be/PmUMJCF0Rl4

The Dinosaur Hoax!

>>159103
This is full of shit. I have literally dug up dinosaur bones myself.

>>159103
I recognize that voice, thats the guy from all the flat earth videos.
Citation needed, on everything.

And since we're going for citation needed, check these bitches out
https://youtu.be/CNMUeK4PNww
https://youtu.be/s5wnMJTQKl8

https://youtu.be/lheapd7bgLA
Now, the analysis doesnt translate well because in their hypothetical model the moon is in a decaying orbit, which doesnt match the assertion made about the moon colliding with the earth countless years ago.
But.
What it does do is allude to the gravitational forces that would be at play leading up to such a cataclysm. And those gravitational, seismic, volcanic, etc. effects would be exascerbated in the presence of not ONLY the moon, but Planet X as well (the Bible called it Worm/Wyrmwood,... an allusion to dragons and reptiles perhaps?).
<So, the details are wrong, but the gist is the same?
Quite right. Effectively the same degree of catastrophe would be experienced by an earthbound observer, in either scenario, but with varying timelines as many elements would be experienced in a great acceleration.
Like, the video depicts a piece of trash swirling around the drain until it makes contact (its a metaphor, the earth is the center of the 'whirlpool'). My example is a bit more of a shot-put fired at the earth. So, the effects would be more sudden and with observably eponential detectability/magnitude.

OP here.
>>161603
Uhm, lets not get wrapped up in the game of which visual effects are faked.
This thread is more about using scientific (mostly) sources to debunk historical records. Lets save contemporary debunking for another thread k?

I was vague in the OP, so Ill be more direct now.

The increasing preponderence of megalithic sites being detected worldwide make very apparent that our contemporary perception of history on a millennial scale is lacking. The official story is bullshit.
The why of which is attributable to a number of observable phenomenon, ignorance and nescience being the two overwhelming culprits. Artifice can be observed in a sig ificant minority as well.
But Why is less relevant to What.

The evidence increasingly available indicates that ancient cultures had developed a technique/formula for the fabrication of Geopolymer stone-masonry* that surpasses our current technological understanding.

This geopolymer technique can be observed worlwide, with distinguishing consistencies over multiple continents. This technque can be observed to correlate historically with legends and stories of giants/gods, attributable to possibly hybridization between Homo Sapiens, Neanderthals, and Homo Denisovan DNA, which can be traced throughoutbjistory and connect to stories such as the Phoenicians, the Magi, and many others.

Homo Denisovan hybrids can be observed to at least have a significant role in the observable giant skeletons and conehead skeletons that have been discovered in ancient sites, and their increased brain mass can be attributed to their advanced technique using basoc materials.
The idea being, their advancement of technology was based around more intelligent use of otherwise mundane substances contributed to their techniques, such as the use of oxalic acid to shape stone.

These Gods/Giants/Teachers were written as to be the source of agricultural science in the ancient world, as well as the source of written language, and their influence is observable in indigenous cuktures, most specifically in Australian Aboriginals.

But the most important issue IMO is that of cataclysm. The Gods/Giants/Teachers (the denisovan hybrids) established these various cultures amongst indigenous cultures after a cyclical cataclysm involving a huge solar and astronomical event that occurs after a set time. The remaining records and stories are what inspire the stories such as that of the Book of Revelations, Ragnarok, and many more.

And its coming for us. In about 30 years.

Tesla, it can be observed, developed his technology for energy distribution and development based on the scale and construction of the Giza plateau, and contemporary analysis has made apparent that the pyramids may have been similar devices to Teslas; an atmospheroc energy generator, capable of creating an arc of plasma in the center of the temple.

Plasma is the Father, the source of Light which is the Son, enabled and assisted by electro-magnetism which is the Holy Spirit/Mother.

Theough such observances, the metaphorocal/allegorical references in the Bible et al can be rendered LITERAL, and science can finally be said to agree with religion.

Ive studied this shit for decades and its difficult for me to summarize it all comprehensively. The best course seems to be of posting information, positions/explanations, etc. that allude to any of the previous premises.

History is a Lie. We're about to experience a phenomenal event that will knock humanity back to the stone age, outside extensive EM constructs, information vaults, and the calculating/deliberate planning of individuals/groups.

Think about it. If all available technology got roasted by a massive EMP effect - Im talking worldwide - AND geological events (earthquakes, tidal waves, volcanoes) wrecked untold percentages, not to mention the unavailabikity of food, we're talking about deaths in the billions. Now throw a comet/asteroid strike into the mix, and the resumting flooding like what happened during the older-younger dryas period.

Humanity is headed for a great reset VASTLY beyond what Klaus Schwab is proposing

And Imo, the only recourse is to develop a Tesla device that stands a chance of sustaining a community/geneology through such a catastrophe.

Because thats what the story of Noah is all about, and the Arc was actually the Arc of the covenant.

The story of Noah is the story of the builders of the pyramids.

Continuing botht the History isna Lie yhread AND the History is a Lie series by Armored Skeptic, we come at last to the Elephant in the room.

The Devil. https://youtu.be/jUICWp0o8WM

Ima be honest, I havent watched this video but the first 5 minutes, but he's already dropping the sort of truths that one can only derive with a very thorough and lengthy deciphering of occult traditions.

Orthodox Cristians, consider THIS your trigger warning. Beyond here there be monsters.

>>162071
Okay, the video was everything I hoped it would be.
The video makes a very clear case of something the Gnostics died to reveal to the world.
Remember the gnostics? Acloistered and devout group of Christian scholars tasked with exploring the christian tradition through texts and records?
They came up with a very different view of the Christian God of the garden of Eden. They felt that the dictates of God (Yyaldabaoth) in the garden were unreasonable and tyrannical, designed to make humanity always be judged as sinful by God, and it was their very adherence to the rules dictated by God that made them susceptible to be viewed as sinful.
Their view was that the serpent that tempted humanity to eat ofbthe tree of knowledge was either Lucifer (the God or Angel of Wisdom) or some contemporary who was working to challenge the deigns of God and allow humanity to be freed from their tyrrannical existence.
They view that Lucifer AS JESUS came down and spread the gospel, living a life of purity and the most high, precisely to depict to humanity that God was NOT just, that even one most high such as Jesus would be cast down by the God of this world and the world who acted as directed.
And, even though they (the Gnostics) were tasked BY THE CHURCH to delve into theae concepts and records and accounts, they were out to death bybthe same Church, who could neither contest their findings NOR could/would allow such findings to upset the carefully constructed control mechanisms that they had put in place, spanning several apocalypses throughout ACTUAL history, and shaping the societal consensus based upon what they know of/about those apocalypses and how their survival could be managed.
The church KNOWS history is a lie, theyre the most fervent perpetrator OF that lie. What the church has done throughout history is exactly what governments of the world are doing now; manipulating society under false pretenses and shaping the narrative around manipulated events to justify increasing control and dominance.
Now, Im not making the following claim about Christians as a whole, Im talking about the church:
The church has ALWAYS been the church of Yyaldabaoth, the central and originating entity/archetype/figure from whom such observably predatory entities such as Moloch, Ba'al, and others, originate. It has ALWAYS promoted the idea that humanity was to place greater weight and significance on the dictates of God versus their own survival and fullfillment.
'God' has ALWAYS wanted ignorant supplicants, rather than intelligent children, ever since the Garden of Eden. And this is corroborrated by the story of Job.

>>162071
The video has several critical errors, but to keep religion out of this thread I will focus on the errors of symbolic interpretation. The most obvious is Superman as the presenter is completely off on that interpretation. It is true that the red and blue is sometimes used as a black/white shorthand, the red typically being evil or primal and blue being good or pure. However, this conflicts with the narrative that Superman is the Satan that brings liberation as Superman is alien and given power by the sun. Furthermore, Lex is garbed in green and fights the alien force from the sun with knowledge of the skies, the kryptonite that comes crashing down, to stand in opposition to the morality enforcing Superman, literally "above man".

The analogy further breaks down when Lex is the villain, always is shown to be greedy, Superman stands for justice and creates a whole planetary League of Nations out of the "Denisovans" represented by other augmented super humans and the rich that know their truth. The only time the roles are reversed into the favor of the analogy would be when they attempt to explore the fall of superman through corruption and taking justice too far and becoming a near unkillable force of destruction.

There are some others too, such as the constant flipping on if this is all metaphor for the sky to there is reincarnation of these architypes of real people that represent what is happening in the sky/ on earth, and that Satan is real and is Lucifer or just made up. There is no internal consistency which lends to wonderful short story presentation, but nothing more substantial without settling on one end or another.

>>162074
The repeated inversion of roles is referenced and explained in previous videos, but the underlying message is that 'who is the savior and who is the adversary changes from tradition and geography to the same'.
>Superman is alien and given power by the sun
This goes immediately back to the Orion/Helios/Lucifer symbolism, I dont see the inconsistency you're referring to.
The clash of red/blue and green/purple forces - it is alleged - refers back to the cataclysmic event, and the hero's journey is a story where the hero can be attributed with either sets of colors, and either sets of attributes (whether the authority or the challenger). As such, the superman metaphor can be attributed to being either saving or enslaving humanity; I dont agree with his use of the reference in this context, especially given the vast array of more or less canon stories surrounding Superman and how easy it is to mottle the metaphor with small details specific to the Superman story.
Im more concerned with the Gnostics specifically and their conclusions about the Lucifer figure/archetype, how it was consistent with the Jesus figure, and how attempting to follow the commandments of God was a trap meant to damn humanity to perpetual slavery/suppression in the Garden of Eden. When Jesus spoke against the priests, were their faults due to them being false to or devout of to the God of the old testament?

Lucifer is Jesus. Thats what all the ancient traditions taught. They knew and taught about Electromagnetic frequencies, plasma, and light on a fundamental level. They observed and described these using ways and means that we are beginning to understand, as OUR technology catches up with the ability to.comprehend the thousands-year-old remains of the evidence of THEIRS, using what we consider more mundane materials.
This level of technology, when properly implemented and utilized, A. is responsible for the design, creation, and existence of effectively EVERY megalithic site worldwide, and B. is essential to humanity's survival of the NEXT cataclysm, potentially about 30 years out.

The thing about the inversion of stories is such that, the story of Revelations IS the story of the Garden of Eden. The tribulations of Revelations ARE the casting out of the Garden. Theyre all the same thing, viewed from a different perspective, with a different prevailing tradition adhering to the same general recollection of something incomprehensible to successive generations.

>>162081
The commandments were given after the garden, unless you mean the singular rule of don’t eat of this tree, even metaphorically taken, which opens another can of worms, means that man was denied one source of knowledge and therefore wisdom. Wisdom is obtained naturally through experience and not through a tree or a being outside the natural process, that being experience, which is where the problem lies. Man broke the natural order by attempting to gain more for himself, not pondering the implications, and the result, even metaphorically, was the destruction of the true potential of mankind. In the rush to obtain this knowledge of good and evil, man didn’t have the experience to rightly apply it as we can see from the murder of brothers explained in Cain and Able, to the worship of one’s self which expands to sacrifices that reflect that nature, for your own welfare, wealth, and pleasure instead of for others and for restoring relationships. I believe there is even more to it that this, but the metaphorical interpretations limit the text and implications so much that it is hardly worth the effort to try to redefine all my beliefs into such a lens as to be more universally applied.

Anyway, this is sort of derailing. I’ll move to the Bible study thread so I won’t take away from alternative history investigations.

>>162082
>Man broke the natural order by attempting to gain more for himself, not pondering the implications, and the result, even metaphorically, was the destruction of the true potential of mankind
Thats the position of orthodoxy, yes. And it - like history - is a lie.

Lets be more specific. The position of orthodoxy is that God MADE MAN IN HIS IMAGE, which INCLUDES the will to break the dictates (claimed as natural order) of God, resulting in Man destroying the true potential of man.
So Man, being Man, destroyed his own potential. That is the orthodox position.

One can see why the Gnostics, a group given grace to interpret records and theory, without caring which side of the Christian orthodoxy their conclusions led them, concluded as they did.

https://youtu.be/UfKyKM8RXrE
More Gnostic shit

>>161655
>Lets save contemporary debunking for another thread k?
>micromanaging
OP killed this bread.

>>162879
>has something to say a month later
>op killed this thread
Get fucked. If you wanna play the game of "these videos/pictures are faked cuz these reasons", you're welcome to; just not in this thread. Photo evidence does not apply to this thread, as the scope of history is well beyond the historical reach of pictures and film.

>>162880
>just not in this thread.
If it is about fake history, I'm entitled to post.

>>162881
Reread the OP

>>162882
History is a lie, period. Then why in hell you want to narrow the sources to just one gatekeeper, ah?
Why not to explore tons of alternative sources?
By restricting the information flow you are behaving like a snowflake commie. Go figures.

>>162884
Cry moar, start ur own thread with as broad of guidelines as you prefer.
Protip: Next time, consider reading the thread before you post/assume

>>162885
>Cry moar, start ur own thread
I'll post here. Let's see how your pampered safe space goes.

Wow, what a time to fuck it up in so many ways, and waste trips. Oh well.
https://youtu.be/UfKyKM8RXrE
More Gnostic shit. This video covers the separation/reunification reposted and expounded cuz rood of the archetypes, characters, personages, legends, and individuated entities which contempraneously are both referred to as Jesus Christ. And Lucifer.
get to reading/learning newfaggot, theres an underlying biblical correlation you havent grasped. But of course, you'll pretend to have because all youve done so far is bitch about OP? I trust I neednt mention that OP is me.

https://youtu.be/O-MLeh9c4A0
Follow-up to the previous video. These two constitute a quick rundown of Gnosticism. This will be tied into later.

https://youtu.be/YwC70I20w0s
This video covers the Mandela effect, or the phenomenon of false memories and recollection, and how it can lead to anything from false imprisonment, all the way up to rewriting history inaccurately.

>History is a lie.
The first lady men transpocalypse.

>>163018
>Owen Benjamin
Sociopath
>the first ladies look mannish
Ngl, I didnt watch the whole vid, but rly? Fuck off with that shit, find another thread.

>>163018
This is some f the most schizophrenic shit I've seen in a long time.

>>163027
And yet, it is in line with all the fakery around.

>>163028
Still not what this thread is about. Seriously, fuck off with that shit.

>>156447
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yRlA9z6XpFR0/
Maximum jew

>>163039
Good shit anon