The opening scene features octavia putting a blanket on Berry Punch. Octavia says to Berry some reassuring words, that even the pieces of trash like her can be the next shot of tommorow.
Although completely drunk, Berry takes a moment to think of the meaning of those words, before dropping to sleep.
The next morning Berry wakes up in the same place she slept, only to find a weird orange pony on a tree. The orange pony is getting barked at by some dog called Winona and asks someone to help, claiming she'd slay it herself but she pulled her groin climbing the tree. Having nothing better to do, Berry beats the dog.
After a short fight, The orange pony climbs down and introduces herself to be Applejack, or AJ for short. Both share a small talk after each Berry and AJ decide to team up since they both are running from something.
And thus a story of lust starts off.
Whats the direction you are taking this? Where will these characters be going
I still havent figured it out. Never did I with justice but... as you can see, things have worked out eventually. Sometimes the imagery and the overall mood push the story forward (While working with justice for examlpe, I didn't intend for hat to be cursed. Initially I thought of it as an acessory that helps to learn a fireball skill or something.)
Okay, so here is a wordy ugly draft:
Later Applejack tells Berry Punch about changelings and what they are. They are basically perverts who want nothing more in life but to get close to a living thing and fuck it. Changelings have an urge to fuck anything that moves, breathes or looks alive. To do it, they take shape of something harmless to get victim's trust. Can be a family member, a closest friend or a nice looking rock. And when the right moment comes, they fuck their prey. There are no moral grounds or restraints with those guys. Changeling's main purpose in life is to fuck things. They don't even do this to survive. They do it because they want to. Their queen, Chrysalis, is too tired of having sex with ten thousand fuckers that one day she decides to conquer the land for them full of things to fuck. She develops a plan to take Equestria and, when the great opportunity reveals itself, raises six changelings all by herself calling them the prophets of the hive. Their function is to replace six ponies to get closer to Celestia by befriending her socially awkward student Twilight Sparkle. But in the middle of it something goes wrong. Equestria falls within a day by some unknown curse that has quickly spreaded all across the continent. The curse does nothing to changelings though, leaving them free to lurk and fuck things without fearing for concequences. It's rather sad, considering that changelings were just in time to kidnap and replace Celestia at that point. The only strange thing they've noticed was that by moving the sun with mirrowed Celestia's magic their eyes glow green.
Unlike justice, element of lust is focused on an alcoholic who's pretty much a messed up idiot with a need for a drink. You will collect beer bottles, feel em up to make explosives, drink them to get drunk and deal extra damage. Your companion, applejack, is pretty much useless at the start but becomes stronger as time goes on. Since applejack is a prophet of the hive, he can take form of mane six characters and use their skills - Pinkie, Twilight, rarity... you get the idea.
Ponies hate changelings to death for their actions since they fuck everything, starting from an animal and ending with a newborn child. Those incidents often end with victim's imminent death since changelings rip their holes so hard it literally tears them apart. At some point of the game you will have to choose between your friends and a "reformed" applejack. This choice leads you to either kill a changeling pretending to be applejack or be abandoned by everyone but him.
The only goal ponies have is to confront the queen and force her to free Princess Celestia, who will help to defeat the evil and break the curse that turns ponies into monsters. In the end of the game you will be met with a choice. A rather interesting one. I'll leave you here for a while. It's been enough information for today.
I am not sure it's a good world building still. Sounds retarded.
It's pretty funny, considering the continuation of a rather dark edgy game is so retarded as ponies are running around in panic and try not to be fucked by perverted insects. And the fact you play as an alcoholic that swears a lot only doubles the whole idiocy. I want the seriousness to be hidden in little moments that are very easy to miss.
Interesting, sounds like a good skeleton plot. How do the Trix Mutants fit into this?
They continue to cause havok and destruction, of course. This will keep happening behind the curtain. Like its something so out of the mood, it's completely unrelated and should be labeled "unimportant". If a monster bites a pony its only a matter of time before she or he becomes it, as if the momentum of will to harm is passed from one body to another, looping the cycle. By the time Berry will confront Chrysalis, there will be close to no survivors.
Did I mention that all life forms, excluding changelings, are affected by the curse, inclusing animals and plants? The only difference is how much time it takes. Afterall, Snips only tripped on that hat and got away with slightly growing in size while Snails became a one ugly mess of a stallion.
So these mutant critters will still be a present threat but kept maybe not common enough to wear down the scare factor
Exactly. Kinda like in Lisa they briefly appear as strong bosses. Some of them are even cute and funny. I can add something like this oc below. I think this will be pretty funny and off putting.
Cute and off putting needs to have an enviroment factor to make it all the more scary
Yeah. Like leafs on trees starting to fall, Grass getting all weird etc... It should get closer to a feeling that the more steps you take to your final destination the more you understand how much change has taken place. Life is a journey. You walk in as one person but walk out as completely another. Though I can't use the same "turned into a monster" ending. It needs to be something different.
A lot of bricks were left unturned, I admit. I still havent explained why trixie was hated so much that she was driven to buy that damn alicorn amulet, aka the element of justice. I also want for Berry to depict being stuck in a position where there are countless choices to consider but they leave to the same outcome. Maybe it is possible for Berry Punch to quit drinking and something like that. There is also a hidden depth that can be explored in a relationship between minuette and berry punch, as well as some parallels drawn. I can sense my mind rushing again deep into this world of opportunities.
As always, I will keep updating with my findings and ideas.
Anyway, here's some battle music I've made two weeks ago. I still struggle to seal its purpose since its, despite being energetic, is too attention grabbing. It's a flaw of mine that each time I do shit I try to make a next banger or something.
I guess I better just draw things first. Music ideas will follow suit.
I'm really happy about that announcement, Element of Justice is complete so please do get on this new project. Make it as long as you feel it ought to be while being cohesive, don't bite off more than you can chew. Though, as LISA had lots of possible companions I hope you incorporate a few different companions, such as maybe Molly Cutter. Also if drugs are canonically in the game maybe they could be a mechanic.>>141855
Kek, I like that story. So that's why Big Mac's eyes looked weird, at first I thought he had been hypnotized or something. I don't know why his impostor is just as strong as Big Mac, though.
Also, the story isn't post-apocalyptic like LISA so much as it is apocalyptic, and I'd say the setting is darker.>magical curse comes out of nowhere>spreads like magical contact radiation, even vegetation is turning monstrous and spreads from Ponyville like Day of the Triffids>seemingly random ponies turn into abominations, consuming ponykind in an incoherent rage and some of those who manage to get away become like them>only creatures that can survive in this hell are your mortal enemies who have come to replace you>your only hope of salvaging anything is your goddess who has been captured like a living Valerian (dunno what happened to Luna or Cadance)>guess I'll die>>142302
Reminds me of "Burnts" from OFF. If you've played that game (and I recommend it, it's free and really short) you'll know what I mean.
I like this inspiration from LISA, but I'm wondering what other dark games you've played. Pathologic is from Russia, do you have that?>>142305
I was a retard and didn't realize you made all the music yourself, I thought you got help and was wondering why there weren't credits. Really impressive in retrospect, "Snails" is my favorite song by far but maybe that's because I'm a sucker for the ukelele(?) riffs toward the end that contrast beautifully. I'll upload the Element of Justice OST as a playlist on Youtube soon™.
This latest music sounds exactly like something you'd hear in Need for Madness, a low-poly 3D racing/crashing game by RadicalPlay. That game was part of my childhood and I think it's still around and can be played for free.
>>142319>Element of Justice is complete so please do get on this new project.
I agree. There's no use polising something to death. It's time to move on to my next project.>I hope you incorporate a few different companions, such as maybe Molly Cutter.
Molly Cutter is good for a random enemy that comes out of nowhere and cuts you with a knife. I am not sure if she can be a companion, though if there will be a moment like in lisa when your party members confront you and say their piece, it would be interesting to see what she says.>I don't know why his impostor is just as strong as Big Mac.
Something's in the water. I thought a lot about this one and about how to make story logically consistent so I came up with a visual clue that you see a lot. First, Pinkie puts her hoof in a river, second, applejack puts apples in a bushl full of water for some reason. this pattern makes me wander that perhaps simple water gives those changeling some healing powers. Water is life and changelings consume it to heal.
Hey, I think I know the game off from somewhere. The protagonist's face looks like something I've seen before. I also remember the game called suits or something.>I'm wondering what other dark games you've played.
Hm... Perhaps I should start with the exact opposite. I didn't play fnaf or slenderman. I rather prefer the nature of horror to come from experiencing an immersive shock in an easy unrushed way. My favourite horror game is called merry christmas alfred robbins:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWjzOAO1AG4&ab_channel=GameshedWalkthroughs
fuck, I've spent an hour just remembering the title. This game is hard to find on its own. It's short and shilling.
Music themed mini boss enemy would fit perfectly
Not bad, jazziness and relaxation to it. Reminds me Summer Love but much more active and funky
>>142323>jazziness and relaxation to it
I wanted to depict how hangover in the morning sounds like.
Well when you have a hangover, isnt that typically the eviroment youre in even though you feel like shit?
At home in the morning with a throbbing headache
Yeah. But considering Berry drinks daily, smooth happy melody helps to depict that it's her daily routine.
Familiarity, happiness in doing a routine
Will we have interesting sub paths and alternate endings? Like with Hopeful in Joyful and in your demo game Element of Justice?
I guess you can say that. there will be a great sense of variability with this one.
Okay, I'm moving to work in the shadows so I'll be quiet for a long period of time. But feel free to ask things since I check this thread daily. I am also active on ponerpics, upvoting pics of horses with big butts.
How much variety will we be getting with party members? We looking at The Painful tier of variety and number or something like Hopeful with four solid members
Hopefully the painful variety. I am all in for the experimentation and variety. And considering I have a copy of lisa decrypted I will analyze how some aspects were implemented to approach the same results. All in all, the more playable ponies are there - the better.
Excellent to hear! However Im guessing with this many party members, some are gonna die?
If not all. But that's only "if". The development has only started.
Man youre getting me very excited for this
I composed those tracks a year ago and compiled them recently from my dead pc's hard drive. It won't spoil anything if I stick 'em here.
Shhh. A fuck up is sleeping.
LISA, OFF and Yume Nikki are the "holy trinity" of dark RPGmaker games. I haven't played Yume Nikki (really should, it's free) but it's about a girl who adventures through surreal dreams. Considering that dreamwalking is canon in MLP maybe something can be made of it, if not here then in some future project. OFF has some similar themes to Element of Justice which is quite interesting. Don't want to be distracting but these are short games and they are certainly what you'd be interested it.
Okay, so I'm basically going full-house with this idea. aside from boosting your damage, berry's moonshine allows you to save. You've got nine shots but you always can buy more alcohol later (if you're a pussy). The full challenge will be compleating the game without saving, aka hard mode. also, Applejack joins you after you pass out your second time, not first. So for things to be easy you really gotta drink.
some animations are missing but you get the picture.
Okay, perhaps it's unoriginal to rip off lisa like that.
I saw playthrough of them on youtube. Thought they were pretty good.
So in your canon, after enough time the mutants just... die?
No. They rather become weak blobs. according to a book located in school, mutation never ends unless they are either dead or unconscious.
It's still debris to me weither or not certain elements are played out the way they're supposed to. But eventually they will.
They may, of course, die from natural causes, such as starvation and dehydration.
Make a picture of one of these blob mutants
That is utterly fucking horrifying and I approve
Are there any psychological changes to the mutants? Or do they purely just degenerate
I really like that opening. Makes Berry look like a total loser and has a bit of slapstick humor. If the game's an homage to LISA don't worry too much about reimagining its mechanics, as long as inspiration from other sources gets used too.>>142868Someone hasn't played the first game
I'd say the answer lies somewhere in the middle. If you played the element of justice, it should come more obvious to you.
Let the discussion continue, yall.
I think twilight is a psychopath. Remember a birthday photo frame where spike is crapped out? (pic related) It's sad she forgot to invite her number one assistant and all. Also, in "lesson zero" she tries very hard to come up with a friendship problem as if it's something to be made a revelation of. And while at it, she endargers the whole town of ponyville just to impress her mentor. you can say she was feared for Celestia's punishment but nah... I think it's not interesting to see things that way. Considering all this, twilight looks like she's an overly obsessed individual. Her priorities are circling around information gathering through the sole basis of conducting an experiment. Aside from categorising knowledge, any observation she makes is immediately labeled and put in her library. Twilight is more than a book worm. she is a perfectionist who puts knowledge before everything else. Not to be powerful but just because she has no real friends. Speaking of which, she didn't bother to check on her previous friends until season 5. I think that speaks volumes about her personality. And although I hate later seasons, I can sure use some of their lore to justify my own.
Okay, so where am I going with all this, you ask?
Hm... We'll cross and burn that bridge once we get there.
Initially there were more than six magical elements but Celestia thought they are culprits of evil and threw them away, keeping only the six nice looking ones and labeling them the elements of harmony. The rest were scattered all across the land, holding power beyond one can ever imagine. Power of justice, lust, greed, power. All of those elements have eventually found their ways in possession of various ponies and therefore sealed their fates. Once and for all. Element of justice was the most destructive of them all. Since it gives power to those in search of revenge, it's an unstoppable ever expanding force, spreading in all directions, creating a wave of morbid creatures who turn violent in response to violence.
Element of justice was a simple game. I knew how it starts and how it ends. Element of lust will follow a relatively same path. Weird but to me its easy to come up with the some ends first and then find ways to connect them.
And lastly, I think it's improbable for octavia to endure Vinyl for so long without giving some sort of explanation in later titles, some key aspect that gives an idea of why octavia just lived with her burden of a roommate. Okay, picture this. You share a room with Vinyl. Vinyl is a drug addict who keeps selling your stuff and getting high with all the money she gets. It's only logical for you to kick her butt out after it happened twice or thrice. So it makes no sense for Octavia to keep ignoring the issue, petting vinyl's back each time and saying that it's okay she messed up and got high her 25th time. There must be something going on there I'm not seeing.
Okay. What if... Octavia once heard some of vinyl's music and fell madly in love with it. The dark techno beats combined with smooth elegant brass keys. The bass clinging like heavy metal rushing through her ears has made her an addict in her own sense. Those ugly notes, yet so captivating and precise. It's gotten to the point when Octavia only wanted to hear more so she was locking herself in a room and sinking in Vinyl's bass all by herself, whispering her name and smiling ever so lightly, something that she does rarely in her life.
Okay. So octavia keeps up with Vinyl's bullshit because she secretly loves her dubstep. That's retarded enough to be brilliant.
Also Minuette runs a pawn shop.
I really like this headcanon, and I'll talk about it more when I come up with something. Thanks for the update, and please focus on getting irl things in order. I'm concerned.