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>>7777>we should delete one unused board and replace it with a new board for the exact same type of content that will go equally unusedBrilliant idea, anon. This was absolutely worth the forced get.
>>7782As though /üb/ from it's inception wasn't intended to be a /fitlit/ by another name. That /üb/ has gone unused for so long is a testament of the audience
>>7785>That /üb/ has gone unused for so long is a testament of the audienceYeah, the audience doesn't want to use /ub/.
>>7795And /fitlit/ would somehow have more traction?
>>7797Is thi based on evidence?
>>7800Based on the activity of other slowchans that have vague self improvement boards, vs the ones that have /fit/ and /lit/ boards, the latter group always has more activity.
Also, /fitlit/ is just a better name.
>>7802What, do you want numbers?
>>7803Not numbers necessarily, but something more than your testimony, certainly
>>7785>/fitlit/ by another nameThat was an empty promise from the start.
>>7805Nice try. Something more than your testimony
please?
>>7806What are you even talking about?
>>7807>I'll just pretend to be stupidReally? Really. Youre gonna pretend this didnt happen?
>>7803>>7804 >>7808You want evidence for something as esoteric "empty promise"? You sound like a fag.
>>7809>esoteric empty promiseBut anon! Are you balking when your (ahem) evidence-based testimony is asked to be validated? Your responses are not in keeping with a person who has the evidence. Has something changed? You seemed so sure of yourself
>>7806User testimony is the only way to judge a board's performance.
>>7808>>7809I called it an "empty promise" because back in 2017 people who advocated for making /ub/ promised it would have the same feel and memes as /fitlit/ 2017 did, and I don't need to point far to demonstrate how that never manifested. The "self improvement" board eclipsed the /fitlit/, and from the start it felt like a pet project of the two or three anons who actually wanted the self improvement board, with /fitlit/ being the secondary priority. When those two or three anon's lost interest and stopped posting, the board regressed to the faggy and pathetic state that Anons warned that it would become in 2017 in the discussion referring to the thread's conception, only bumped occasionally by faggots like Nigel bumping their favorite threads where they are the only poster.
>>7813No, you testified again. If you dont know why thats incredible.
/fitlit/ worked because the users embraced it. /üb/ failed because the users didn't.
But of course, they didn't cuz the name was wrong
(imagine thinking this)
>>7814>But of course, they didn't cuz the name was wrongYeah, that's part of the problem.
>Here's the lobster you ordered, except we made it out of meatloaf, and we call it a waffle.Would people have embraced /mlpol/ if it weren't called /mlpol/?
>>7815>Yeah, that's part of the problemYou're seriously suggesting that the name made "all the difference"? That if it was named /fitlit/ it would somehow be significantly more accepted/approved?
>Would people have embraced /mlpol/ if it weren:t called /mlpol/People embraced Mlpol? It looks more like they tried it for a bit and fucked off
>>7816>That if it was named /fitlit/ it would somehow be significantly more accepted/approved?Yes. A board that directly referenced /mlpol/'s origins and has a concise meaning and a snappy name would have been more accepted than /ub/ was.
>It looks more like they tried it for a bit and fucked offYou're still here.
>>7777Faggot who ensured a GET via hidden posts.
You're a faggot.
Cease being a brainlet.
>Let's rebrand /üb/ as /fitlit/Wow, guess what that doesn't change anything.
>B-but we put up a post that says more people has to come if it's /fitlit/That's delusional you know why? Cause /üb/ is the superior /fitlit/ or are you thinking that you want modern traffic to be pulled via search engines for someone searching for /fitlit/ even though image board users don't do that for normal operations?
Or are you just changing names 'cause you like fucking around instead of getting to the heart of the matter?
>Surprise! Real world crap impacts posting rates and content.>>7811>It's nolonger 2017>Nobody posted /fitlit/ memes>Why did nobody ever post?<User that doesn't post /fitlit/ content.WOW!
Imagine that a subset of people that slowly post subdivided into another subset posts slowly!
Besides you dun fucked up you absolute retarded fagget.
Any non-newfag should understand why what what you've done is both retarded and your shit is all gay.
Where it belongs.
>>7815>>7816Life is full of curve balls and dirty hits.
Behold the problem of getting new fags while remaining steadfast in turbulent times.
>>7817Anon. You didn't fish for /fitlit/ you came for the pony and politics, everything else is to flesh out the image board experience.
Then you're shocked without having a supply of /fitlit/ that it doesn't feel the same because they stayed where the containment boards are at and have no reason to ever try this place no matter what name or brand you give it.
>>7817>YesSpeculative at best.
>You're still here.I'm
back after multiple lifetime bans from someone who couldn't handle getting btfo. YOU'RE still here,... and how has that gone? How's the userbase look?
For what it's worth uberghenst is a stupid fucking name because the western man cares about fit and lit but not ub. Fitlit is catchy. Fitlit tells you what it's all about. Ub? Who gives a fuck about ub? Not Dragon Ball fans. Except some black ones. Become the ideal horse? Das ubersmenschttenneshengenshlenger? Das ist der gaeyest naemen everren. Just rename it to fitlit and see if that makes the bitter bitches here who get no bitches and stack no paper try harder to take care of their physical health like they plan to fight a war in the future and read more works of cultural and artistic and intellectual value to the white race. What's the worst that can happen? Renaming ub pisses off all 3 of the people who still regularly use it? The only good argument against renaming ub to fitlit is it means using a name from the actual mlpols past instead of this site's past. But that argument is gay.
>>7820>For what it's worth uberghenst is a stupid fucking nameFwiw, I agree, but I dont agree that /fitlit/ would have done any better. It isn't the name that's the "problem"
>>7820>I don't want to become the überhengst! I want to read hasjew comics and crossfitThe solution to the ploblem is to change nothing at all
>>7823The obvious reason behind the fitness and literature board's popularity is the user base's lack of interest in becoming well-read physically-fit people. How many people here actually come here to talk about literature? Porn doesn't count. Lesbian post-apocalyptic splatterporn where invincible melodramatic murderhobos feign character arcs while gunning down giggling terminally ill foals hooked into the Torment Nexus doesn't count.
>>7825You're projecting onto me again. Sad.
I never said I don't want to embody aryan ideals of fitness and true intellectualism.
I called a gay name gay and blamed it for the board's lack of popularity because I wanted to be polite and avoid naming the real issue.
So many people have resigned themselves to a miserable life of doing nothing and lashing out at others for doing nothing. People here aren't even motivated enough to do ten pushups a day and post about it in the relevant board. A dead board name change won't remove the soy and microplastics from your testicles.
>>7828>So many people have resigned themselves to a miserable life of doing nothing and lashing out at others for doing nothing. People here aren't even motivated enough to do ten pushups a day and post about it in the relevant board. A dead board name change won't remove the soy and microplastics from your testicles./ub/ was pitched to the site on the basis of being /fitlit/ and more, but it turned out to be closer to /r9k/.
>>7828>The obvious reason behind the fitness and literature board's popularity is the user base's lack of interest in becoming well-read physically-fit people.Thats endemic to
furries er horsefuckers in general. Obviously not all, but the smaller and larger fandom can be observed to be overrepresented by unhealthy people and/or unhealthy habits. The lack of interest in /üb/ is both a symptom of the overall demographics, magnified by the vastly diminished participation with the site as a whole.
>>7830>The lack of interest in /üb/ is both a symptom of the overall demographics, magnified by the vastly diminished participation with the site as a whole.So if it's vastly diminished, there's nothing to lose from changing /ub/ to /fitlit/, is there?
>>7831Technically, though as a caveat that doesn mean theres anything to gain either
>>7832It's not like it would take any effort. The only sacrifice made is a catalog full of dead threads that nobody cares about being refreshed, and ~20 minutes of pupper's time making /fitlit/. If there's even a slim chance of things getting marginally better, and nothing to lose, that's a reason to do it.
>>7833"It would only take the admin a few clicks" is a third-worlder tier argument for such a change.
"Only dead threads would die" shows how disconnected from you are from imageboards in general to consider any thread "dead" when you're perfectly able and allowed to bump and contribute to them right now. Typical ADHD riddled 4channeler who needs a constant stream of new posts to be entertained. Trying to speed up a site by adding a new board is like trying to speed up a boat by adding another gas tank. Further dividing an already (cozilly) slow board with more boards, or boards covering more specific topics, can only divide the existing posterbase while giving staff members another set of board-specific rules to agree upon and execute. Another board that can be spammed by raiders and bots. Another board you would need to fuck off from before you flood it for gets.
Start a book club thread here and prove there's any remote interest or crossover between /fit/ and /lit/ by discussing men's health books or something similar.
>>7834>when you're perfectly able and allowed to bump and contribute to them right nowThen why don't you?
Go bump the threads you value so much.
>Trying to speed up a site by adding a new board isIt's not adding a new board, it's replacing one.
>Further dividingNothing would be divided.
>(cozilly) slow boardThat would feel compelling if anyone other than me made a news/pony thread more than once a month.
That's a separate discussion though.
>Another board that can be spammed by raiders and botsThere would be literally no difference on that front.
>prove there's any remote interest or crossover between /fit/ and /lit/ by discussing men's health books or something similarThat was not the point of /fitlit/. That wasn't the point of any of the 2017 merged boards.
>>7834>Trying to speed up a siteThe point isn't to speed up the site. The point is to have /fitlit/.
>>7834I tend to agree. Changing the name is one thing, wiping the board is something else entirely.
I'll also admit that there's maybe 5 thread that I'd prefer preserved, which doesn't rise to the level of justifying preserving the entirety of the catalog.
It's difficult to justify keeping /üb/ given he state of affairs, but it's equally (if not moreso) difficult to justify changing it when the fundamental nature of the site remains stagnant, which is why /üb/ is dead in the first place.
Simply put:
A 'new coat of paint' is gonna do fuckall. If anon wants to wipe and rebrand a board, bring the receipts that indicate that it WILL work, as opposed to opinion-gratifying conjecture
>>7837>bring the receipts that indicate that it WILL workWhat is a "receipt"? How would you do that?
>>7838Maybe by having a more comprehensive plan than "I think renaming a board = profits"
>>7839What would you prefer then?
>>7840Well, if I was
still on staff AND they were willing to consider options, what
I would do is formulate something of an advertizing campaign designed to boost visibility of the site, to coincide with the changes. If we're looking for April 1st '17 posters, then a complete rebrand would be necessary. Switch /üb/ to /fitlit/, fuck /a/, fuck /cyb/, fuck /intr/, and fuck /sp/ (negotiable). /mlpol/, /vx/, and the unspoken board (iykyk) would be left as is.
But that assumes that someone(s) can come up with a viable strategy, and no offense but people in amd aroun the site (self included) havent exacty displayed much competence in advertising and promotion, which Imo is far more important than a boar name.
Quick follow-up
Whn I say "advertizing campaign", I mean far beyond anything the site has done previously. We've never HAD a proper ad campaign, as I recall the best we've managed is to temporarily house groups during jappenings (anonfilly, that other chan that got mercd cuz Brenton Tarrant, etc.). Reactionary promotion ain't gonna cut it.
>>7841>complete rebrand would be necessary. Switch /üb/ to /fitlit/, fuck /a/, fuck /cyb/, fuck /intr/, and fuck /sp/ (negotiable).>/vx/I am open to the idea of a rebrand to purge and remake dead boards, although I would also consider /vx/ to be in that category because it's ridden with its own problems.
Sorry, that was less helpful.
I can't be unbiased wrt /vx/ (iykyk), so I won't engage a debate about it staying or going. I could argue either way, but I'm confident that I'm not the only person who would oppose it's removal. That's not to say that Im not ameable.
Please note, I am NOT operating under the idea that my opinion has any weight, just giving an honest assessment