Bring back /fitlit/
/ub/ - Überhengst
Becoming better
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>>7850
>Face facts, Mlpol painted it's self into a corner a LONG, LONG, LONG time ago and lost any/all momentum, goodwill, potential, and most importantly USERS it had
>>7852
>Unrealistic an unchecked optimism is at the heart of why the site is in the predicament it is
>>7853
>How are you going to make things better?
>>7855
>It seems premature to assume that better is even on the table
I honestly don't understand this doomer pessimism that keeps periodically bubbling up around here. All I know is that I've been listening to it off and on for like five or six years, yet the site is still here and people still post on it.
This site is the intersection of two niche subcultures that have nothing obvious in common with each other, that a casual observer would expect to be natural enemies. This is precisely why they were juxtaposed together as a joke. The joke backfired because it turned out there was more crossover than expected. Multiple sites were created as migration points when the initial 4/mlpol/ board was shut down; this is the one that ended up surviving.
The site's trajectory in terms of user interest has followed a completely predictable and natural pattern. It actually parallels the trajectory of the MLP fandom itself somewhat. There was an initial burst of energy and activity fueled by novelty of concept and the notoriety we had for awhile on 4chan. Inevitably, this hit a peak and activity began to taper off as people gradually lost interest or moved on to other things. Now it's down to a core group of people who are here because they are genuinely interested in what the site is about, and don't particularly care about how relevant it is the broader world. In my view, this is a healthy attitude to have about any interest you might have, and this is the sort of user we want.
Does the size of the site or the amount of traffic it receives really matter? We're not operating a business here. We don't need to worry about turning a profit or controlling a market share. So who gives a fuck? Just enjoy the place for what it is.
>>7857
>How many ppl are going to Marefair, and what visible presence will Mlpol have?
For what it's worth, I was planning on printing up some cards and leaving them on tables around the hotel.
>>7859
>Does this cliquey circlejerk really have anything going for it that makes people want to become active users dedicated to this site and its wellbeing, or is it just a black hole of impotent misery?
"Black hole of impotent misery" or no, you keep on coming back here. Maybe if you had something to contribute to any conversation beyond unfocused angry babbling, you'd be taken more seriously.
>Face facts, Mlpol painted it's self into a corner a LONG, LONG, LONG time ago and lost any/all momentum, goodwill, potential, and most importantly USERS it had
>>7852
>Unrealistic an unchecked optimism is at the heart of why the site is in the predicament it is
>>7853
>How are you going to make things better?
>>7855
>It seems premature to assume that better is even on the table
I honestly don't understand this doomer pessimism that keeps periodically bubbling up around here. All I know is that I've been listening to it off and on for like five or six years, yet the site is still here and people still post on it.
This site is the intersection of two niche subcultures that have nothing obvious in common with each other, that a casual observer would expect to be natural enemies. This is precisely why they were juxtaposed together as a joke. The joke backfired because it turned out there was more crossover than expected. Multiple sites were created as migration points when the initial 4/mlpol/ board was shut down; this is the one that ended up surviving.
The site's trajectory in terms of user interest has followed a completely predictable and natural pattern. It actually parallels the trajectory of the MLP fandom itself somewhat. There was an initial burst of energy and activity fueled by novelty of concept and the notoriety we had for awhile on 4chan. Inevitably, this hit a peak and activity began to taper off as people gradually lost interest or moved on to other things. Now it's down to a core group of people who are here because they are genuinely interested in what the site is about, and don't particularly care about how relevant it is the broader world. In my view, this is a healthy attitude to have about any interest you might have, and this is the sort of user we want.
Does the size of the site or the amount of traffic it receives really matter? We're not operating a business here. We don't need to worry about turning a profit or controlling a market share. So who gives a fuck? Just enjoy the place for what it is.
>>7857
>How many ppl are going to Marefair, and what visible presence will Mlpol have?
For what it's worth, I was planning on printing up some cards and leaving them on tables around the hotel.
>>7859
>Does this cliquey circlejerk really have anything going for it that makes people want to become active users dedicated to this site and its wellbeing, or is it just a black hole of impotent misery?
"Black hole of impotent misery" or no, you keep on coming back here. Maybe if you had something to contribute to any conversation beyond unfocused angry babbling, you'd be taken more seriously.
>>7859
Credit for identifying the next element of the equation - incentive - you seem to be struggling with the idea of an advertizing campaign. I can't think of a single convention I have gone to that didn't involve a handful of business cards, stickers, and flyers advertizing websites and socials of individuals and groups, usually picked up or acquired after lengthy conversation and social interaction.
That's what I'm talking about, not popups on a website (you mong).
>prove it before it happens
Its called a prospectus. Now shush, adults are talking.
>>7863
>The site's trajectory in terms of user interest has followed a completely predictable and natural pattern. It actually parallels the trajectory of the MLP fandom itself somewhat
Exactly, which is where the site begins to find it's feet as far as drawing new users is concerned. While this isn't the only site that can claim the following, the fact that it is going nowhere is a marketable strength. The fandom isn't dying, but many elements ARE slowly gradually falling off/away and Mlpol has an opportunity to distinguish it's self as something that WILL prevail no matter what, by determination of it's users first and foremost.
THAT is what is needed to be communicated. Business cards are a good step, but even better is if the cards are handed out by someone(s) able/willing to speak to and promote the site in a wholesome context and manner.
I will take the opportunity to suggest that we could do with a bit more images and signage, preferrably stuff where one doesn't have to go into detail about "yeah, about the swastikas". I'm NOT saying get rid of swastikas, but maybe not on the highly-public promotional material? Perhaps reappropriating the derpy swastika?
>people who are here because they are genuinely interested in what the site is about, and don't particularly care about how relevant it is the broader world. In my view, this is a healthy attitude to have about any interest you might have, and this is the sort of user we want
So this
Credit for identifying the next element of the equation - incentive - you seem to be struggling with the idea of an advertizing campaign. I can't think of a single convention I have gone to that didn't involve a handful of business cards, stickers, and flyers advertizing websites and socials of individuals and groups, usually picked up or acquired after lengthy conversation and social interaction.
That's what I'm talking about, not popups on a website (you mong).
>prove it before it happens
Its called a prospectus. Now shush, adults are talking.
>>7863
>The site's trajectory in terms of user interest has followed a completely predictable and natural pattern. It actually parallels the trajectory of the MLP fandom itself somewhat
Exactly, which is where the site begins to find it's feet as far as drawing new users is concerned. While this isn't the only site that can claim the following, the fact that it is going nowhere is a marketable strength. The fandom isn't dying, but many elements ARE slowly gradually falling off/away and Mlpol has an opportunity to distinguish it's self as something that WILL prevail no matter what, by determination of it's users first and foremost.
THAT is what is needed to be communicated. Business cards are a good step, but even better is if the cards are handed out by someone(s) able/willing to speak to and promote the site in a wholesome context and manner.
I will take the opportunity to suggest that we could do with a bit more images and signage, preferrably stuff where one doesn't have to go into detail about "yeah, about the swastikas". I'm NOT saying get rid of swastikas, but maybe not on the highly-public promotional material? Perhaps reappropriating the derpy swastika?
>people who are here because they are genuinely interested in what the site is about, and don't particularly care about how relevant it is the broader world. In my view, this is a healthy attitude to have about any interest you might have, and this is the sort of user we want
So this
>>7864
>Its called a prospectus.
It's been you who's been saying "bring receipts first" when posters suggested far less drastic and expensive measures.
>Its called a prospectus.
It's been you who's been saying "bring receipts first" when posters suggested far less drastic and expensive measures.
Forgot to mention
>>7863
>I honestly don't understand this doomer pessimism that keeps periodically bubbling up around here
Cuz it hasn't been explained every time? Often by the same people?
Fine, one more time,....
What you call "doomer pessimism" can equally be called "countering biased idealism" of people who are wont to imagine that the site is better off than it is. It's a wake-up call, not a death knell. No one seems to be (legitimately) saying the site is dead or dying, but progress and development is in the cards than inividuals will need to play heir hands wih serious determination.
>>7863
>I honestly don't understand this doomer pessimism that keeps periodically bubbling up around here
Cuz it hasn't been explained every time? Often by the same people?
Fine, one more time,....
What you call "doomer pessimism" can equally be called "countering biased idealism" of people who are wont to imagine that the site is better off than it is. It's a wake-up call, not a death knell. No one seems to be (legitimately) saying the site is dead or dying, but progress and development is in the cards than inividuals will need to play heir hands wih serious determination.
>>7865
Yes, because if they had done the proper calculations and review ty would have "receipts" that would show that those lesser efforts amounted to wishful thinking. Back to the kids table with you
Yes, because if they had done the proper calculations and review ty would have "receipts" that would show that those lesser efforts amounted to wishful thinking. Back to the kids table with you
>>7866
>What you call "doomer pessimism" can equally be called "countering biased idealism" of people who are wont to imagine that the site is better off than it is.
I know doomfags when I see them. They pre-date /mlpol/ and have been on /mlp/ since late season 2. Faggots who do nothing but doompost with pessimism while contributing nothing to the atmosphere, not posting participating in content threads, not funposting, not even posting images; only doompauling about the supposed heat death of the fandom while patronizing anyone who was still trying to have fun. We beat them on /mlp/, and we'll beat them here.
>Back to the kids table with you
The cringey boomerspeech is not helping your case.
And all this aside, the thread isn't about increasing the general activity on mlpol.net, it's about bringing back /fitlit/.
>What you call "doomer pessimism" can equally be called "countering biased idealism" of people who are wont to imagine that the site is better off than it is.
I know doomfags when I see them. They pre-date /mlpol/ and have been on /mlp/ since late season 2. Faggots who do nothing but doompost with pessimism while contributing nothing to the atmosphere, not posting participating in content threads, not funposting, not even posting images; only doompauling about the supposed heat death of the fandom while patronizing anyone who was still trying to have fun. We beat them on /mlp/, and we'll beat them here.
>Back to the kids table with you
The cringey boomerspeech is not helping your case.
And all this aside, the thread isn't about increasing the general activity on mlpol.net, it's about bringing back /fitlit/.
>>7868
While we're on about improving the site (which was the ostensible point of changing the name of /üb/ to make the board more receptible to apr. 1st oldfags, try to keep up) this whole "I know you better than you know you" strawman shit is tr kin of thing that repels users. Just sayin
While we're on about improving the site (which was the ostensible point of changing the name of /üb/ to make the board more receptible to apr. 1st oldfags, try to keep up) this whole "I know you better than you know you" strawman shit is tr kin of thing that repels users. Just sayin
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>>7864
Haha, you're trying so hard to sound like an intellectual! It's cute, really.
You feel entitled to respect, no matter how you treat others.
/fitlit/ is objectively a better name than /ub/ and if you think I need to to to the future to give you proof changing its name was a good thing for this site...
Ask an adult why you cannot go to the future.
Do you see the hole in your logic?
The impossibility of what you feel entitled to ask of me?
Christ.
Then again, all the proof in the world couldn't convince someone this arrogant.
Look at you.
Just... look at you.
This is how you treat people when the topic is changing a gay name to a better one.
Look out, we have a real badass over here. A real intellectual! No, a self-important fool.
Do you think spending a thousand dollars on advertisements and leaving business cards around a hotel would get people to visit this "sex-positive" HIV-positive pornography-infested circlejerk where 95% of the user base is completely incapable of a mature conversation about anything, no matter how important or small and insignificant it might be? Do you really think spending money and littering is likely to add energized and ideologically compatible users to this dying circlejerk?
If you truly want to better yourself you don't waste time masturbating to anime girls or worse, little girls from western cartoons written by feminists and male feminists who accidentally made some episodes of the first seasons good before corporate politics made things gayer and lazier.
Masturbation is a waste of time. Masturbation is a sin against God. Masturbation is a jewish tactic.
And this website is in love with masturbation.
When you try this hard to sound intellectual, fellating yourself even though brevity is the soul of wit, that's you masturbating. Anyone worth a damn would call it out on the spot, you are just masturbating.
I don't care if many people here are on your level and on your side, no matter how high shit is piled it is still just shit.
If you're too busy masturbating to understand why the /fitlit/ name debate is fundamentally pointless, that's on you.
Anyone who wants to talk literature and fitness or both is spoiled for choice when it comes to places to talk with or without jewish censorship. They could make their own board without Apple Bloom porn-obsessed perverts stinking up the place and losing their cool the second they feel slighted.
Why would any significant number of them emigrate here? Why would those who emigrate here be satisfied with the number of people who give a shit about literature of any sort and their caliber?
Why would those who emigrate here post here even though most users here don't give a shit about fitness or literature?
The best thing anyone can do for this site is this: Change the name /ub/ to /fitlit/ in the hopes of attracting fresh new users with an IQ above room temperature while praying they care enough about discussing real literature or physical fitness or tedious overly long unedited and artistically valueless furry fanfiction written to pander to porn-addicted wiggers to overlook your sodomite stench.
/mlp/ is full of valueless noise from valueless noisy people and the same is true of /pol/, but at least /pol/ has the excuse of being targeted for subversion by trained paid actors. The show attracts losers desperate for comfort and female company and they make up the bulk of the fandom whether you tell yourself the show accidentally advocates for a white ethnostate or not. Read Lord Of The Rings, accidentally advocating for whiteness is not unique to MLP. This show is not actually really that good at all. People just obsess over it so much in the name of escapism it keeps them from trying better things and growing as people. Attempts to make this community productive and creative fizzle out regularly for a reason. Try and prove me wrong. Try making an art thread where users are encouraged to create art and get better. Try making a NaNoWriMo thread where the many users try to write something with political value and entertainment value. Try making anything positive. See how this circlejerk reacts. Tearing down what is and bitching about what is... that's so much easier than actually trying to make anything. People here aren't prepared to make guns and train with them and start jogging. They came here to bitch about problems they'll do nothing to fix.
Haha, you're trying so hard to sound like an intellectual! It's cute, really.
You feel entitled to respect, no matter how you treat others.
/fitlit/ is objectively a better name than /ub/ and if you think I need to to to the future to give you proof changing its name was a good thing for this site...
Ask an adult why you cannot go to the future.
Do you see the hole in your logic?
The impossibility of what you feel entitled to ask of me?
Christ.
Then again, all the proof in the world couldn't convince someone this arrogant.
Look at you.
Just... look at you.
This is how you treat people when the topic is changing a gay name to a better one.
Look out, we have a real badass over here. A real intellectual! No, a self-important fool.
Do you think spending a thousand dollars on advertisements and leaving business cards around a hotel would get people to visit this "sex-positive" HIV-positive pornography-infested circlejerk where 95% of the user base is completely incapable of a mature conversation about anything, no matter how important or small and insignificant it might be? Do you really think spending money and littering is likely to add energized and ideologically compatible users to this dying circlejerk?
If you truly want to better yourself you don't waste time masturbating to anime girls or worse, little girls from western cartoons written by feminists and male feminists who accidentally made some episodes of the first seasons good before corporate politics made things gayer and lazier.
Masturbation is a waste of time. Masturbation is a sin against God. Masturbation is a jewish tactic.
And this website is in love with masturbation.
When you try this hard to sound intellectual, fellating yourself even though brevity is the soul of wit, that's you masturbating. Anyone worth a damn would call it out on the spot, you are just masturbating.
I don't care if many people here are on your level and on your side, no matter how high shit is piled it is still just shit.
If you're too busy masturbating to understand why the /fitlit/ name debate is fundamentally pointless, that's on you.
Anyone who wants to talk literature and fitness or both is spoiled for choice when it comes to places to talk with or without jewish censorship. They could make their own board without Apple Bloom porn-obsessed perverts stinking up the place and losing their cool the second they feel slighted.
Why would any significant number of them emigrate here? Why would those who emigrate here be satisfied with the number of people who give a shit about literature of any sort and their caliber?
Why would those who emigrate here post here even though most users here don't give a shit about fitness or literature?
The best thing anyone can do for this site is this: Change the name /ub/ to /fitlit/ in the hopes of attracting fresh new users with an IQ above room temperature while praying they care enough about discussing real literature or physical fitness or tedious overly long unedited and artistically valueless furry fanfiction written to pander to porn-addicted wiggers to overlook your sodomite stench.
/mlp/ is full of valueless noise from valueless noisy people and the same is true of /pol/, but at least /pol/ has the excuse of being targeted for subversion by trained paid actors. The show attracts losers desperate for comfort and female company and they make up the bulk of the fandom whether you tell yourself the show accidentally advocates for a white ethnostate or not. Read Lord Of The Rings, accidentally advocating for whiteness is not unique to MLP. This show is not actually really that good at all. People just obsess over it so much in the name of escapism it keeps them from trying better things and growing as people. Attempts to make this community productive and creative fizzle out regularly for a reason. Try and prove me wrong. Try making an art thread where users are encouraged to create art and get better. Try making a NaNoWriMo thread where the many users try to write something with political value and entertainment value. Try making anything positive. See how this circlejerk reacts. Tearing down what is and bitching about what is... that's so much easier than actually trying to make anything. People here aren't prepared to make guns and train with them and start jogging. They came here to bitch about problems they'll do nothing to fix.
If that's the case then I'm always edging. Constantly trying to improve by beating my meat hard but never getting to cum. Like a bad dream.
>>7864
>>7866
Well, I'm not going to delve too deeply into this, since as anon pointed out this side discussion is derailing a thread that was meant to be about changing the name of one board. If you want to continue this discussion, starting a new thread on /qa/ would probably be the way to go about it. Suffice it to say that I think the site is fine as-is, and I don't think there's much to be gained by aggressively evangelizing it; if anything, I think that might prove to be counterproductive and attract the wrong sort of people.
That said, I do think that maintaining a degree of visibility so that fellow travelers can find their way here is a positive thing. Events like Mare Fair, that are more likely to be receptive, are probably the ideal venue for this.
>>7873
>When you try this hard to sound intellectual, fellating yourself even though brevity is the soul of wit, that's you masturbating.
Here is what I would like you to do. Read this portion of text that I just quoted. Read it two or three times, if necessary. Then, go back and read it again, this time in the context of that entire rambling wall of text you just palm-mashed into existence. See if you can spot the irony.
>>7866
Well, I'm not going to delve too deeply into this, since as anon pointed out this side discussion is derailing a thread that was meant to be about changing the name of one board. If you want to continue this discussion, starting a new thread on /qa/ would probably be the way to go about it. Suffice it to say that I think the site is fine as-is, and I don't think there's much to be gained by aggressively evangelizing it; if anything, I think that might prove to be counterproductive and attract the wrong sort of people.
That said, I do think that maintaining a degree of visibility so that fellow travelers can find their way here is a positive thing. Events like Mare Fair, that are more likely to be receptive, are probably the ideal venue for this.
>>7873
>When you try this hard to sound intellectual, fellating yourself even though brevity is the soul of wit, that's you masturbating.
Here is what I would like you to do. Read this portion of text that I just quoted. Read it two or three times, if necessary. Then, go back and read it again, this time in the context of that entire rambling wall of text you just palm-mashed into existence. See if you can spot the irony.
>>7873
>>7846
It's time to face the fact that the current pol/sphere/, reinvigorated by the rise of "self-improvement" among normies, is going to be as hostile towards anything MLP as it is to pretty much anything that could be of interest to autistic fags.
Things are certainly not like they were in 2017. So anyone who expects/wants to see the site's traffic significantly go up, is gonna have to think about how it can adapt.
>>7846
It's time to face the fact that the current pol/sphere/, reinvigorated by the rise of "self-improvement" among normies, is going to be as hostile towards anything MLP as it is to pretty much anything that could be of interest to autistic fags.
Things are certainly not like they were in 2017. So anyone who expects/wants to see the site's traffic significantly go up, is gonna have to think about how it can adapt.
>>7877
This post reads suspiciously like AI-generated text, the image is unrelated to the subject matter of the thread and it's not a pony, and you have no other posts, either in this thread or on the site as a whole.
Therefore, I would like you to please answer the following question:
You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down. You look down and see a tortoise, Anon. It's crawling toward you. (You) reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back, Anon. The tortoise lies on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that, Anon?
This post reads suspiciously like AI-generated text, the image is unrelated to the subject matter of the thread and it's not a pony, and you have no other posts, either in this thread or on the site as a whole.
Therefore, I would like you to please answer the following question:
You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down. You look down and see a tortoise, Anon. It's crawling toward you. (You) reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back, Anon. The tortoise lies on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that, Anon?
>>7878
>TFW you are confused for an AI.
I'm Carlos. I'll try and explain what I meant a lit bit better.
>TFW you are confused for an AI.
I'm Carlos. I'll try and explain what I meant a lit bit better.
Anyway, there's no reason to oppose changing the name of the board afaik, the only point of contention was the retention/deletion of existing threads, and whether or not changing the name would be futile and (ahem) masturbatory
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>>7874
Self-improvement is a National Socialist virtue.
Why do you think the (((allies))) burned so many books about fitness?
Self-improvement is a National Socialist virtue.
Why do you think the (((allies))) burned so many books about fitness?
>>7885
That doesn't necessitate having a board for it.
People warned back in 2017 that self improvement boards on chansites devolve into self-pitty ridden blogposts, and it did.
We already have /mlpol/ for national socialist principles.
That doesn't necessitate having a board for it.
People warned back in 2017 that self improvement boards on chansites devolve into self-pitty ridden blogposts, and it did.
We already have /mlpol/ for national socialist principles.
>>7877
Alright, lemme rephrase this.
>"reinvigorated by the rise of "self-improvement" among normies"
Self-improvement is a good thing. No doubt about it. The reason I put it in quotes, is because Jordan Peterson and the like has tried time and time again to weaponize it against white nationalists, and to promote an extremely individualistic worldview. But that's neither here nor there.
The point is, polacks nowadays are less likely to put up with ponies, let alone positively engage with it.
>"is going to be as hostile towards anything MLP as it is to pretty much anything that could be of interest to autistic fags."
If you've interacted with them at all. You'd know they can't tolerate anything remotely similar to MLP, ever. No matter how "based and redpilled" it might be. This post in particular >>7873 is actually fairly representative of how the average polack would think about horsefuckers today.
>"Things are certainly not like they were in 2017. So anyone who expects/wants to see the site's traffic significantly go up, is gonna have to think about how it can adapt."
I've explained earlier how and why it is different now compared to 2017. So I don't think something like April fool's can happen again. If higher traffic is desired, it's gonna have to come from a different approach.
I hope this doesn't come off as doom posting. I don't really care if this site is slow. There's clearly still people enjoying it as it is. Just my two cents.
>>7885
I think it's masturbation when you do it for what others might think of you. Like the gymbros who spend as much time in social media as the average gym thot. Yeah, that's not really self-improvement. But remember this is largely a normie trend. And normies tend to deviate from the original intention. Some people genuinely think all these normies are going to stand up by their side in the day of the rake.
If you do self-improvement like it's supposed to. For yourself and/or for your people, then it's a worthwhile endeavor that everyone should do.
>>7878
>>7880
Well, I can't fathom doing that to a tortoise.
>>7884
Noice to see you again poners.
Alright, lemme rephrase this.
>"reinvigorated by the rise of "self-improvement" among normies"
Self-improvement is a good thing. No doubt about it. The reason I put it in quotes, is because Jordan Peterson and the like has tried time and time again to weaponize it against white nationalists, and to promote an extremely individualistic worldview. But that's neither here nor there.
The point is, polacks nowadays are less likely to put up with ponies, let alone positively engage with it.
>"is going to be as hostile towards anything MLP as it is to pretty much anything that could be of interest to autistic fags."
If you've interacted with them at all. You'd know they can't tolerate anything remotely similar to MLP, ever. No matter how "based and redpilled" it might be. This post in particular >>7873 is actually fairly representative of how the average polack would think about horsefuckers today.
>"Things are certainly not like they were in 2017. So anyone who expects/wants to see the site's traffic significantly go up, is gonna have to think about how it can adapt."
I've explained earlier how and why it is different now compared to 2017. So I don't think something like April fool's can happen again. If higher traffic is desired, it's gonna have to come from a different approach.
I hope this doesn't come off as doom posting. I don't really care if this site is slow. There's clearly still people enjoying it as it is. Just my two cents.
>>7885
I think it's masturbation when you do it for what others might think of you. Like the gymbros who spend as much time in social media as the average gym thot. Yeah, that's not really self-improvement. But remember this is largely a normie trend. And normies tend to deviate from the original intention. Some people genuinely think all these normies are going to stand up by their side in the day of the rake.
If you do self-improvement like it's supposed to. For yourself and/or for your people, then it's a worthwhile endeavor that everyone should do.
>>7878
>>7880
Well, I can't fathom doing that to a tortoise.
>>7884
Noice to see you again poners.
>>7888
I was there when FIM was young. We were young, too. And so we latched onto the first fandom we got to feel like we were a part of despite the show's inconsistent quality. For every episode where your favourite pony was depicted honestly there were more episodes where she was depicted as a fool or bully or brat or whatever. It made discussing the show a pain because if an episode made your waifu look shit, and you said that, some prick would get offended because he enjoyed that episode and thinks your criticism of the televised network programming episode featuring 2d animation and audio is a personal attack on him. Soycucks obsessed with feeling comfortable at all times. Retarded "brony analyst" channels tried to present depth where there wasn't to help adults feel comfortable enjoying a show for little girls by saying it's not just a well written show, it's secretly adult and mature. Tryhard edgelord dogshit fancontent was the norm. The longer the show went on, the more retards started to outnumber the quality posters as they left for greener pastures and better fandoms where such toxic "positivity" is less common. People say they miss when the fandom was good because they mean they miss when they were younger and FIM was the only bright speck in their miserable lives and the human to idiot ratio was better.
Avatar The Last Airbender is a timeless masterpiece but something similar happened when its shitquel show Legend of Korra aired. You couldn't talk about how nonsensical Republic City was, how annoying Korra was, how her instant mastery of the old ways shits on the hero's journey and depicting western MMA as superior is as boring as it is fundamentally antithetical to the asian fetish world of Avatar, or how much you wished this was a show about a better new Avatar or better old Avatar or a show about adult Aang and his friends. Retards wouldn't let you talk about it. It took years for the newfags to GTFO and move on to the next flavor of the month, it took years for good videos to come out breaking down LOK's flaws so well everyone could understand the problems they sensed but couldn't explain, it took years for the video essays to remind people what good writing for kids looks like and what LOK isn't.
If I compared Zuko to Sunset Shimmer, that would be completely unfair. After all, one is from a show that sells toys, and one is from a movie just made to sell toys, with sequels that tried a little harder.
The Avatar The Last Airbender fandom survived despite the best efforts of a shit movie, shit sequels, shit games, a shit netflix adaption, average to mediocre comics, and a creative team hell bent on trying to force the new thing down everyone's throats. Can FIM say the same? Sure, there are still dedicated people talking about it and meeting over it, it's certainly not as dead as Concord. But people say they miss the good old days because they notice the changes within the fandom even if they can't understand why things changed. People miss when content was being made (even though most of it is shit) but don't feel like making content of their own.
I was there when FIM was young. We were young, too. And so we latched onto the first fandom we got to feel like we were a part of despite the show's inconsistent quality. For every episode where your favourite pony was depicted honestly there were more episodes where she was depicted as a fool or bully or brat or whatever. It made discussing the show a pain because if an episode made your waifu look shit, and you said that, some prick would get offended because he enjoyed that episode and thinks your criticism of the televised network programming episode featuring 2d animation and audio is a personal attack on him. Soycucks obsessed with feeling comfortable at all times. Retarded "brony analyst" channels tried to present depth where there wasn't to help adults feel comfortable enjoying a show for little girls by saying it's not just a well written show, it's secretly adult and mature. Tryhard edgelord dogshit fancontent was the norm. The longer the show went on, the more retards started to outnumber the quality posters as they left for greener pastures and better fandoms where such toxic "positivity" is less common. People say they miss when the fandom was good because they mean they miss when they were younger and FIM was the only bright speck in their miserable lives and the human to idiot ratio was better.
Avatar The Last Airbender is a timeless masterpiece but something similar happened when its shitquel show Legend of Korra aired. You couldn't talk about how nonsensical Republic City was, how annoying Korra was, how her instant mastery of the old ways shits on the hero's journey and depicting western MMA as superior is as boring as it is fundamentally antithetical to the asian fetish world of Avatar, or how much you wished this was a show about a better new Avatar or better old Avatar or a show about adult Aang and his friends. Retards wouldn't let you talk about it. It took years for the newfags to GTFO and move on to the next flavor of the month, it took years for good videos to come out breaking down LOK's flaws so well everyone could understand the problems they sensed but couldn't explain, it took years for the video essays to remind people what good writing for kids looks like and what LOK isn't.
If I compared Zuko to Sunset Shimmer, that would be completely unfair. After all, one is from a show that sells toys, and one is from a movie just made to sell toys, with sequels that tried a little harder.
The Avatar The Last Airbender fandom survived despite the best efforts of a shit movie, shit sequels, shit games, a shit netflix adaption, average to mediocre comics, and a creative team hell bent on trying to force the new thing down everyone's throats. Can FIM say the same? Sure, there are still dedicated people talking about it and meeting over it, it's certainly not as dead as Concord. But people say they miss the good old days because they notice the changes within the fandom even if they can't understand why things changed. People miss when content was being made (even though most of it is shit) but don't feel like making content of their own.
>>7888
>I don't think something like April fool's can happen again.
It can, though. It happens every year on the first of April.
>I don't think something like April fool's can happen again.
It can, though. It happens every year on the first of April.
>>7891
Prolly gonna get shit on for this one, but you seem to be saying that MLP was babby's first fandom
Prolly gonna get shit on for this one, but you seem to be saying that MLP was babby's first fandom
Sven here.
>>7863
>Now it's down to a core group of people who are here because they are genuinely interested in what the site is about, and don't particularly care about how relevant it is the broader world. In my view, this is a healthy attitude to have about any interest you might have, and this is the sort of user we want.
>>7888
>The reason I put it in quotes, is because Jordan Peterson and the like has tried time and time again to weaponize it against white nationalists, and to promote an extremely individualistic worldview.
This. We're on the same wavelength.
>>7863
>Now it's down to a core group of people who are here because they are genuinely interested in what the site is about, and don't particularly care about how relevant it is the broader world. In my view, this is a healthy attitude to have about any interest you might have, and this is the sort of user we want.
>>7888
>The reason I put it in quotes, is because Jordan Peterson and the like has tried time and time again to weaponize it against white nationalists, and to promote an extremely individualistic worldview.
This. We're on the same wavelength.
>>7891
Okay, you seem to have a different take from what I was referring to. So, allow me to elaborate on this "nu-polack" I keep talking about.
I think people are overlooking how "certain interests" have been infested by trannies. Bear with me on this one, ignoring it won't help anyone.
Remember Edward Dutton's take on bronies? It's a fandom full of autistic people, which at the same time, experienced a massive troon out years later. Anime fags are the exact same shit. Heck, even the open source software community is going through the same shit. I can't help but think there was a concerted effort specifically targeting autists. (Honestly, this shit is serious and deserves it's own thread)
Anyways, what was the problem with this, proverbial new polack again?
"Autistic" shit, like MLP, tends to attract trannies these days.(which are honestly just a perversion of your classic autist) Ergo, "polacks" think "autistic" shit, is just tranny shit. So they won't put up with anything "autistic", ever.
It's gotten to the point where they'd rather ditch Linux, leave it to the trannies to shit it all over it. Than try to reclaim it. If they do that with FOSS, you can bet they won't give a fuck about your ponies.
Okay, you seem to have a different take from what I was referring to. So, allow me to elaborate on this "nu-polack" I keep talking about.
I think people are overlooking how "certain interests" have been infested by trannies. Bear with me on this one, ignoring it won't help anyone.
Remember Edward Dutton's take on bronies? It's a fandom full of autistic people, which at the same time, experienced a massive troon out years later. Anime fags are the exact same shit. Heck, even the open source software community is going through the same shit. I can't help but think there was a concerted effort specifically targeting autists. (Honestly, this shit is serious and deserves it's own thread)
Anyways, what was the problem with this, proverbial new polack again?
"Autistic" shit, like MLP, tends to attract trannies these days.(which are honestly just a perversion of your classic autist) Ergo, "polacks" think "autistic" shit, is just tranny shit. So they won't put up with anything "autistic", ever.
It's gotten to the point where they'd rather ditch Linux, leave it to the trannies to shit it all over it. Than try to reclaim it. If they do that with FOSS, you can bet they won't give a fuck about your ponies.
>>7891
>And so we latched onto the first fandom we got to feel like we were a part of despite the show's inconsistent quality.
I think my first fandom was Halo's, although fandoms were very different back then. I remember never actually interacting with the brony fandom and coming straight to /mlpol/ after I knew of their existence.
>because if an episode made your waifu look shit, and you said that, some prick would get offended because...
Fandoms tend to be pretty retarded. I think the show was very consistent in the first seasons tho. At least in the way it portrayed the characters. It still had a lot of steam up to season 4-5 imo. Far from perfect, but still.
>Retarded "brony analyst" channels tried to present depth where there wasn't to help adults feel comfortable enjoying a show for little girls by saying it's not just a well written show, it's secretly adult and mature.
I do remember that. Everyone was arguing with their head cannons instead of what was actually in the show.
>The longer the show went on, the more retards started to outnumber the quality posters as they left for greener pastures and better fandoms where such toxic "positivity" is less common.
That's the case for many, many IP's. Halo is actually one example where the old fan base has resisted for around a decade now.
>If I compared Zuko to Sunset Shimmer
I get the idea. I reckon you're not entirely wrong. If I were to rewatch the show, I'd probably realize is not as good as I remember it. Not implying I have "high" standards for what I watch, but still.
>But people say they miss the good old days because they notice the changes within the fandom even if they can't understand why things changed.
I'm sure what you described is true for a lot of the fandom. But I don't think everyone was deluded enough to think this was some sort of amazingly written masterpiece. Most people just thought it was surprisingly good. And it was, for the first couple of seasons.
I've always thought the show was trash for most of its runtime, and a lot of people agree on that. But sometimes it's the simple things that get you to stick. Perhaps you liked the music. Or you really liked the designs Lauren Faust made.
I've personally arrived at MLP by accident. Thought it was surprisingly good. I liked the ponies, and that's pretty much it. It was at that time that I started getting into politics, so when I heard about /mlpol/ it sounded like a fun time.
In the end, there's a lot of things to blame for why the fandom changed. Being the first time for an impressionable portion of the audience is just one of them.
>And so we latched onto the first fandom we got to feel like we were a part of despite the show's inconsistent quality.
I think my first fandom was Halo's, although fandoms were very different back then. I remember never actually interacting with the brony fandom and coming straight to /mlpol/ after I knew of their existence.
>because if an episode made your waifu look shit, and you said that, some prick would get offended because...
Fandoms tend to be pretty retarded. I think the show was very consistent in the first seasons tho. At least in the way it portrayed the characters. It still had a lot of steam up to season 4-5 imo. Far from perfect, but still.
>Retarded "brony analyst" channels tried to present depth where there wasn't to help adults feel comfortable enjoying a show for little girls by saying it's not just a well written show, it's secretly adult and mature.
I do remember that. Everyone was arguing with their head cannons instead of what was actually in the show.
>The longer the show went on, the more retards started to outnumber the quality posters as they left for greener pastures and better fandoms where such toxic "positivity" is less common.
That's the case for many, many IP's. Halo is actually one example where the old fan base has resisted for around a decade now.
>If I compared Zuko to Sunset Shimmer
I get the idea. I reckon you're not entirely wrong. If I were to rewatch the show, I'd probably realize is not as good as I remember it. Not implying I have "high" standards for what I watch, but still.
>But people say they miss the good old days because they notice the changes within the fandom even if they can't understand why things changed.
I'm sure what you described is true for a lot of the fandom. But I don't think everyone was deluded enough to think this was some sort of amazingly written masterpiece. Most people just thought it was surprisingly good. And it was, for the first couple of seasons.
I've always thought the show was trash for most of its runtime, and a lot of people agree on that. But sometimes it's the simple things that get you to stick. Perhaps you liked the music. Or you really liked the designs Lauren Faust made.
I've personally arrived at MLP by accident. Thought it was surprisingly good. I liked the ponies, and that's pretty much it. It was at that time that I started getting into politics, so when I heard about /mlpol/ it sounded like a fun time.
In the end, there's a lot of things to blame for why the fandom changed. Being the first time for an impressionable portion of the audience is just one of them.
>>7895
Hi sven.
>>7896
Hi again carlos.
I think I got side tracked.
That's a fair observation, however I'd also point out that as hostile spirits commit actions via the host human more people get infested by hostile spirits.
The problem is kind of odd from a distance.
There's many Christians so this shouldn't be happening right?
Some are resting in Our Father.
Some are just Christian in name only, they don't do any acts of love. Not the feeling, but actions of love.
Some just aren't Christian because they don't know.
So anyone comprised goes in and opens the door for weird strange evil beings to fuck around.
So targeted strikes to people who are most importantly at the time vulnerable and then could be effective in countering some of the invasion.
The power of Our Father twisted as fable and not fact.
So continually the seeds planted that lead to death growing to strangle those who would have had life to the fullest.
So the full display of the hidden evils in hearts being made known to all.
So too will good be shown from the hidden areas.
So the mass abandonment running away from evil. Letting it flourish.
By earthly logic and strategy it's too numerous and widespread to deal with any of the infestation.
Where are the Christians creating and over coming the tide of evil?
Beaten black and blue and demeaned to inaction?
No. Those that would reclaim the big and the small are in progress.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.
Hi sven.
>>7896
Hi again carlos.
I think I got side tracked.
That's a fair observation, however I'd also point out that as hostile spirits commit actions via the host human more people get infested by hostile spirits.
The problem is kind of odd from a distance.
There's many Christians so this shouldn't be happening right?
Some are resting in Our Father.
Some are just Christian in name only, they don't do any acts of love. Not the feeling, but actions of love.
Some just aren't Christian because they don't know.
So anyone comprised goes in and opens the door for weird strange evil beings to fuck around.
So targeted strikes to people who are most importantly at the time vulnerable and then could be effective in countering some of the invasion.
The power of Our Father twisted as fable and not fact.
So continually the seeds planted that lead to death growing to strangle those who would have had life to the fullest.
So the full display of the hidden evils in hearts being made known to all.
So too will good be shown from the hidden areas.
So the mass abandonment running away from evil. Letting it flourish.
By earthly logic and strategy it's too numerous and widespread to deal with any of the infestation.
Where are the Christians creating and over coming the tide of evil?
Beaten black and blue and demeaned to inaction?
No. Those that would reclaim the big and the small are in progress.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.
>>7898
>>7900
Hi. ^^
Not directed at anyone in particular since I haven't followed the conversation but I'd like to say disagree with the notion (maybe, that's not what's being said I'm just misunderstanding here) that mlp was a ever a bad show. It wasn't the greatest show ever sure, and some bronies definitely tried to make it about supposedly mature concepts as death and famine and whatnot. But that's just it. My peers at the time thought they were mature cause they watched game of thrones. What is most mature, a show about sex, death, and cynicism towards humanity(maybe I'm being a bit unfair. I watched it forever ago. Feel free to call me out); or an optimistic show about the most purest form of love their is: friendship and how to solve interpersonal problems between nuanced but good people without making either of the parties into villains.
Also, what anyone of you actually will discover if you watch these shows you liked in the past but you think probably were trash and you're just being nostalgic will surprise you. I know because I have experienced this myself. "Eh, bleach, mlp, and naruto probably aren't all that good", but then you watch them and you realize they are better than you gave them credit for.
imo.
>>7900
Hi. ^^
Not directed at anyone in particular since I haven't followed the conversation but I'd like to say disagree with the notion (maybe, that's not what's being said I'm just misunderstanding here) that mlp was a ever a bad show. It wasn't the greatest show ever sure, and some bronies definitely tried to make it about supposedly mature concepts as death and famine and whatnot. But that's just it. My peers at the time thought they were mature cause they watched game of thrones. What is most mature, a show about sex, death, and cynicism towards humanity(maybe I'm being a bit unfair. I watched it forever ago. Feel free to call me out); or an optimistic show about the most purest form of love their is: friendship and how to solve interpersonal problems between nuanced but good people without making either of the parties into villains.
Also, what anyone of you actually will discover if you watch these shows you liked in the past but you think probably were trash and you're just being nostalgic will surprise you. I know because I have experienced this myself. "Eh, bleach, mlp, and naruto probably aren't all that good", but then you watch them and you realize they are better than you gave them credit for.
imo.
Autism detected
Jordan Peterson seeks to reach out to young white men hurt by this system and distract them with useless ideas.
"Evil collectivists hurt you because collectivism is evil, respond as a powerless atomized individual and ignore everything going on and improve yourself until the system millions of times larger than you cannot hurt you".
That is a losing strategy, of course.
Peterson is a jew-lover, a puppet of the system, he exists to make white men feel comfortable and powerful and inspired to "fight back" by not fighting anyone.
To write off collectived and groups as "collectivism no different from what the enemy does" is retarded because Peterson uses white culture to make people accept retarded ideas as true. You can fight the dragon and impress him, someone who wants to seem like a father figure, you can kill the dragon and overcome your hoarding problem and be a hero, just do nothing to the feminists and jews and niggers.
Peterson is fake and gay controlled opposition.
Just like Qanon, Project Trust for a new generation. Or was it Operation Trust? That thing where the USSR told those opposed to communism "the based tzar-loving conservative russian patriots in the government are going to kill the communists and take over any day now! Do nothing, the commies want you to act and get arrested! Sit at home and wait for the signal to act!" until suddenly communists had arrested so many impotent toothless worthless cuckservative cowards who didn't love freedom enough, they became outnumbered by the commies, who could be as cruel and bold as they wanted to be.
There will always be faggots in position of power telling young men to give up, go their own way, give up on your fantasy of killing niggers and jews and forcefully fixing women with pills and electroshock therapy and breeding camps and lobotomies. I don't care if women were never treated that way throughout history by white men, white women of today deserve this so their offspring can be raised right by white men.
There will always be faggots in positions of power trying to subvert what is good.
But self improvement is good.
You feel better, you feel sexier, you feel more complete.
I don't care that I can't bag a bitch who feels entitled to a six figure six foot billionaire jew or a nigger thug she can "change"(fetishize and enable) without tying her up and pouring a bucket of their blood over her so her animal instincts recognize me as superior to them.
I am still proud of the work I put into working out.
It is good to work out.
It is good to own weapons and train with them.
To write off self improvement as "a jew lie" is fucking retarded and Hitler would be ashamed of that kind of pussy talk.
"Evil collectivists hurt you because collectivism is evil, respond as a powerless atomized individual and ignore everything going on and improve yourself until the system millions of times larger than you cannot hurt you".
That is a losing strategy, of course.
Peterson is a jew-lover, a puppet of the system, he exists to make white men feel comfortable and powerful and inspired to "fight back" by not fighting anyone.
To write off collectived and groups as "collectivism no different from what the enemy does" is retarded because Peterson uses white culture to make people accept retarded ideas as true. You can fight the dragon and impress him, someone who wants to seem like a father figure, you can kill the dragon and overcome your hoarding problem and be a hero, just do nothing to the feminists and jews and niggers.
Peterson is fake and gay controlled opposition.
Just like Qanon, Project Trust for a new generation. Or was it Operation Trust? That thing where the USSR told those opposed to communism "the based tzar-loving conservative russian patriots in the government are going to kill the communists and take over any day now! Do nothing, the commies want you to act and get arrested! Sit at home and wait for the signal to act!" until suddenly communists had arrested so many impotent toothless worthless cuckservative cowards who didn't love freedom enough, they became outnumbered by the commies, who could be as cruel and bold as they wanted to be.
There will always be faggots in position of power telling young men to give up, go their own way, give up on your fantasy of killing niggers and jews and forcefully fixing women with pills and electroshock therapy and breeding camps and lobotomies. I don't care if women were never treated that way throughout history by white men, white women of today deserve this so their offspring can be raised right by white men.
There will always be faggots in positions of power trying to subvert what is good.
But self improvement is good.
You feel better, you feel sexier, you feel more complete.
I don't care that I can't bag a bitch who feels entitled to a six figure six foot billionaire jew or a nigger thug she can "change"(fetishize and enable) without tying her up and pouring a bucket of their blood over her so her animal instincts recognize me as superior to them.
I am still proud of the work I put into working out.
It is good to work out.
It is good to own weapons and train with them.
To write off self improvement as "a jew lie" is fucking retarded and Hitler would be ashamed of that kind of pussy talk.
>7905
>giant wall of text rant
>every line single spaced
>nothing but unsolicited opinions on subjects unrelated to thread topic
Have you figured out yet why everyone you interact with online seems to end up hating your guts eventually? Or are you still blaming it on the great Discord conspiracy?
>giant wall of text rant
>every line single spaced
>nothing but unsolicited opinions on subjects unrelated to thread topic
Have you figured out yet why everyone you interact with online seems to end up hating your guts eventually? Or are you still blaming it on the great Discord conspiracy?
>>7907
>separate new lines with gaps
>"reddit spacing"
>don't separate lines with spaces
>"wall of text"
>mention Peterson and self improvement because someone said self improvement is bad
>"off topic"
I still don't respect the small handful of fags in your tranny discord circlejerk.
>separate new lines with gaps
>"reddit spacing"
>don't separate lines with spaces
>"wall of text"
>mention Peterson and self improvement because someone said self improvement is bad
>"off topic"
I still don't respect the small handful of fags in your tranny discord circlejerk.
>7908
>reddit spacing
For the thousandth time, there is no such thing as “Reddit spacing.” Anyone who uses this term is a moron.
Allow me to introduce you to a very simple formatting concept called paragraphs. Paragraphs are blocks of text, each of which is designed to address a single point or concept. You organize your text into paragraphs to make it easier to read.
In print, you designate a new paragraph by indenting the first line. Online, you double-space between paragraphs. Like so:
This is a paragraph.
This is a different paragraph.
It is an extremely simple concept that anyone who has made it to fourth grade should already understand. There is no such thing as Reddit spacing, and if anyone ever throws this term at you they should be ignored.
>wall of text
A wall of text is a disparaging term for any online post that is longer than it has any need to be. Bad formatting does not make a post into a wall of text, it just makes a wall of text even more difficult to read. This in turn tends to make an already-obnoxious poster come across as even more obnoxious. Since most of your posts tend to be essay-length, profanity-laced rants about unrelated subjects, you are frequently accused of writing walls of text even when you format your posts correctly. Hence your frustration.
>mention Peterson and self improvement because someone said self improvement is bad
>"off topic"
There are only seven instances of “Peterson” in this entire thread, six of which appear in posts made by you. Carlos mentioned him offhandedly in one post made several days ago. This hardly merits an entire wall of text on the subject, and in any event you weren’t even replying to Carlos’s post. You just saw the name Jordan Peterson posted somewhere in the thread, and took that as an invitation to wordvomit your unfiltered thoughts on him. Probably 90% of the posts you have ever made to this site follow this same format, which is why we keep having this same conversation over and over.
> I still don't respect the small handful of fags in your tranny discord circlejerk.
The only thing I or anyone else has ever asked you to do on this site is to please stop splattering it with endless verbal diarrhea that is maybe 5-10% on-topic content and 90-95% your unsolicited opinions on shit nobody is asking about or cares about. Your continued refusal to adhere to this very simple, very reasonable request is the reason you keep getting shit on every time you post, not some phantom Discord conspiracy that exists only in your imagination.
The topic of this thread is “should /ub/ be changed to /fitlit/,” not “what are Nigel’s private opinions about Jordan Peterson and masturbation and the early MLP seasons and Avatar the Last fudge-packing Airbender.” If you have something to contribute to the conversation at hand, and can express it in a few short, human-readable sentences without meandering off subject, then by all means feel free to contribute. If all you want to do is palm-mash your unfiltered thoughts on a handful of niche topics you happen to be interested in, making only a token effort to connect any of your rants to the topic at hand, then please do it somewhere else.
We have had this conversation numerous times. Experience has taught me that I shouldn’t expect any of what I’m saying to get through to you, and yet, like Charlie Brown charging at that stupid football, I feel inclined to keep trying and trying.
>reddit spacing
For the thousandth time, there is no such thing as “Reddit spacing.” Anyone who uses this term is a moron.
Allow me to introduce you to a very simple formatting concept called paragraphs. Paragraphs are blocks of text, each of which is designed to address a single point or concept. You organize your text into paragraphs to make it easier to read.
In print, you designate a new paragraph by indenting the first line. Online, you double-space between paragraphs. Like so:
This is a paragraph.
This is a different paragraph.
It is an extremely simple concept that anyone who has made it to fourth grade should already understand. There is no such thing as Reddit spacing, and if anyone ever throws this term at you they should be ignored.
>wall of text
A wall of text is a disparaging term for any online post that is longer than it has any need to be. Bad formatting does not make a post into a wall of text, it just makes a wall of text even more difficult to read. This in turn tends to make an already-obnoxious poster come across as even more obnoxious. Since most of your posts tend to be essay-length, profanity-laced rants about unrelated subjects, you are frequently accused of writing walls of text even when you format your posts correctly. Hence your frustration.
>mention Peterson and self improvement because someone said self improvement is bad
>"off topic"
There are only seven instances of “Peterson” in this entire thread, six of which appear in posts made by you. Carlos mentioned him offhandedly in one post made several days ago. This hardly merits an entire wall of text on the subject, and in any event you weren’t even replying to Carlos’s post. You just saw the name Jordan Peterson posted somewhere in the thread, and took that as an invitation to wordvomit your unfiltered thoughts on him. Probably 90% of the posts you have ever made to this site follow this same format, which is why we keep having this same conversation over and over.
> I still don't respect the small handful of fags in your tranny discord circlejerk.
The only thing I or anyone else has ever asked you to do on this site is to please stop splattering it with endless verbal diarrhea that is maybe 5-10% on-topic content and 90-95% your unsolicited opinions on shit nobody is asking about or cares about. Your continued refusal to adhere to this very simple, very reasonable request is the reason you keep getting shit on every time you post, not some phantom Discord conspiracy that exists only in your imagination.
The topic of this thread is “should /ub/ be changed to /fitlit/,” not “what are Nigel’s private opinions about Jordan Peterson and masturbation and the early MLP seasons and Avatar the Last fudge-packing Airbender.” If you have something to contribute to the conversation at hand, and can express it in a few short, human-readable sentences without meandering off subject, then by all means feel free to contribute. If all you want to do is palm-mash your unfiltered thoughts on a handful of niche topics you happen to be interested in, making only a token effort to connect any of your rants to the topic at hand, then please do it somewhere else.
We have had this conversation numerous times. Experience has taught me that I shouldn’t expect any of what I’m saying to get through to you, and yet, like Charlie Brown charging at that stupid football, I feel inclined to keep trying and trying.
I see we're at the reasoning stage
So, I just got finished rewatching the Loki series.
Sidenote: if you're willing to sit through it AND overlook a few gaping plotholes (and probably the worst Tara Strong cringe evar) the payoff is one of the best character-arhetype reformation stories in cinema.
I mention this, cuz I'm gonna try something different. At least, I THINK it's different.
Odds are, more than half the posters ITT can identify by some name/handle/screen name more then half the posters ITT. It doesn't matter anymore if we play the "we're all anonymous" game, or if we play the "you're (you), he's him" game.
Is he gonna change? Are you? Am I? CAN we?
Yes. Its gonna be slow, it is going to take time an effort. And in ways, we are gonna have to help one another; maybe even those we have decided aren't worth our piss if they were on fire. I dont even know where I'm going with it. I guess I'm saying /fitlit/ is a small change, so why not start there? If the threads get wiped, more room to do it better next time. We have the benefit of years of experience this time.
>>7908
One of those "tranny discords" you refuse to see past is Mlpol staff chat, who have collectively shown more patience an consideration for (you) in particular than one dedicated individual ever could.
Sidenote: if you're willing to sit through it AND overlook a few gaping plotholes (and probably the worst Tara Strong cringe evar) the payoff is one of the best character-arhetype reformation stories in cinema.
I mention this, cuz I'm gonna try something different. At least, I THINK it's different.
Odds are, more than half the posters ITT can identify by some name/handle/screen name more then half the posters ITT. It doesn't matter anymore if we play the "we're all anonymous" game, or if we play the "you're (you), he's him" game.
Is he gonna change? Are you? Am I? CAN we?
Yes. Its gonna be slow, it is going to take time an effort. And in ways, we are gonna have to help one another; maybe even those we have decided aren't worth our piss if they were on fire. I dont even know where I'm going with it. I guess I'm saying /fitlit/ is a small change, so why not start there? If the threads get wiped, more room to do it better next time. We have the benefit of years of experience this time.
>>7908
One of those "tranny discords" you refuse to see past is Mlpol staff chat, who have collectively shown more patience an consideration for (you) in particular than one dedicated individual ever could.
Well, I guess I'm also responsible for derailing the thread. Sorry about that. I'll cut it off here and probably make a separate thread if I have more to say.
>all this seething over unrelated nonsense
Bring back /fitlit/.
Bring back /fitlit/.
So what happened with this? The record shows one particular poster was very on about this.
Unless this whole thread WAS a lame-duck attempt to try and distract from "whoever" was gettig btfo in discussion, leading to the (ahem) sage-bombing thing
(its in the narcissism thread if youre both curious and masochistic)
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