/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Hello everyponer.
There are hundreds of charlatans and self-titled "analysts" talking about current international events, most of them are total shysters and have no freaking idea of what they are talking about. But the below guy Martyanov has been always on target, even years in advance, like he peers into the future. In the following interview he describes what are the most likely scenarios for Iran and USA. Also he tells about details on weaponry and inner government squabbles.
I recommend him.

WW3? Will USA Attack Iran? - Andrei Martyanov LIVE Russian military expert - AU 390
[YouTube] USA & Israel v Iran! Escalation to WW3? - Andrei Martyanov LIVE Russian military expert - AU 390 [Embed]

(((British))) chutzpah.
Send the Air Force One to fly us back to England.

>>393064
Fuck off, we're full.

>>392216
>>392956
I think, Israeli air campaign is purely opportunistic and media focused:
- Gulf war, 18M population, ??? GDP PPP -- 1100 fighters, 1600 combat sorties daily, 62% strikes, 35 days
- Libyan war, 6.5M population, 135B GDP PPP -- ??? fighters, 118 combat sorties daily, 42% strikes, 220 days
- Syrian war, 18M population, 141B GDP PPP -- 60 fighters, 80 combat sorties daily, 53% strikes, 720 days
- Ukrainian war, 33M population, 590B GDP PPP -- 200 fighters, 200 combat sorties daily, 40-60% strikes, >1200 days
- Iranian war, 86M population, 1600B GDP PPP -- 100-200 fighters, 100-200 combat sorties daily, 40-60% strikes

During first months of Ukrainian war Russian air forces makes about 30% of damage to enemy (0.8/2.6 million 152mm HE shell equivalent monthly). The whole NATO can maintain about 350-700 combat sorties daily with 20-30% SEAD sorties and 40-60% strike sorties inside Iranian borders, because of logistic limitations, especially refuelling. They need to restore reserve aircrafts, train technical personnel, build more airfields, gather supplies, spend about 1-2 years on preparation. You just can't expect any result with 20% of necessary air forces without ground support against such Leviathan.

Israeli air campaign looks like some sort of distraction/support for coup attempt. They can't gather more opposition, agents and resources inside Iran, their capabilities starting to decrease. So why not try even with 5% chance to success, if otherwise this chance will be decreased rapidly in following years. This similar to first stage of Ukrainian war: rapid escalation with small chances of success, because why not, if alternative is bad anyway.

Chronology:
- 19 May 2024 -- Iranian president Raisi was killed in helicopter crash.
- 26 June 2024 -- Iran finish railroad between Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf.
- 19 May 2025 -- Railroad between Iran and China was finished (15 days vs 30 days through Malacca)
- 13 June 2025 -- Attack on Iranian Revolutionary Guards command structure with support of Bahai cult agents.

>>393063
>Andrei Martyanov
Air defense retiree officer who translates ideas from aftershock.news and global aventure project (quite popular forums for our government-related boomers). He lives in Seattle from early 2000s. A little version of Douglas MacGregor. Actually not bad, I listen some of his speeches during first stage of Ukrainian war, but he is too focused around USA politics instead of military expertise.

About Russian-Iranian military alliance. Maybe possible. Kikes operations rapidly activates here. Right now they trying to blackmail friend of my party through head of a university to make pro-kikery article about war. He is expert of oriental studies and they just activate team in university to disturb his department. They were waiting during Gaza war, they were waiting during Lebanon campaign, but attacks immediately after 16 June. Also, they threaten logistic companies with Iranian contractors.

Quite sad, if Russia cast aside our beneficial neutrality. Currently we have 2/3 economy under control of state corporations, but 1/3 GDP and significant part of civil government still in jewish hands. In recent two decades we replaced them slowly without losses and unnecessary blood. Not because of morality, just lost generation and lack of trusted specialists.

>>393000
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>>393079
>About Russian-Iranian military alliance. Maybe possible. Kikes operations rapidly activates here.

There is some normie brainstorming on it.
>The Presidents of Russia and China Announce the Cardinal Points of the Obvious
https://www.unz.com/article/the-presidents-of-russia-and-china-announce-the-cardinal-points-of-the-obvious/

But if the kikery in the White House and Kremlin is to be noticed, then Rolo Slavskiy won't disappoint.
>Putin Will Save Iran Any Day Now!
https://slavlandchronicles.substack.com/p/putin-will-save-iran-any-day-now
>Why Do Illiterate Conspiracy Kooks and Cranks (bad) Think Putin (patriot!) is a Traitor to Russia?
https://slavlandchronicles.substack.com/p/why-do-illiterate-conspiracy-kooks

>>393081
>But if the kikery in the White House and Kremlin is to be noticed, then Rolo Slavskiy won't disappoint.
Some snippets.

>>393082
Putin is a famous jew-lover. He collect comically worst kikes, allows them to make shows on tv and have their own economic projects. If you are absurdly incompetent jew, you will be welcomed. Otherwise, definitely not. If you can't overcome worst filth of the essenes tribe, how can you expect victory against noble ones? As wine-maker say: "Vine should suffer."

>>392529
>>392956
>Somewhere between Qazvin and Hamadan (120 km from border), if they use SDB with 80-120 km range
Confirmed.

Some details:
- All active Iranian airforces was hidden before war.
- Two destroyed F-14 (Tehran airport) actually disassembled in 2022-2023.
- One destroyed Boeing 707 refuelling tanker (Mashhad airport) active craft.
- 6-10 cobra helicopters (Kermanshah airport) disassembled and under repair.

Second article about war:
https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/1242640.html

>>393089
Those vintage airplanes…

IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING!

>>393094
God fucking damnit!

>>393094
Trump addressing the nation live momentarily
https://www.youtube.com/live/C7eSJ011Muc

From one of comments

>>393094
22 June 1941 4:00 AM. Date when German aircrafts bomb USSR and The Great War was started.

>>393099
Same than USA. Society is divided and one faction wants the destruction of the other.

The Jews in Occupied Palestine are not crying out to their Messiah for help, but to the USA.

>The chosen ones are fleeing the “promised land” and go home all over the world! #iran
[YouTube] The chosen ones are fleeing the “promised land” and go home all over the world! #iran [Embed]
This video is satire and pure gold. The victim card is denied.

>>393104
That's cause they don't have one

It's impossible to invade Iran, that's why regime change must come from the inside.

>>392216
Make a song, anon!
https://files.catbox.moe/g9josv.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/63p1xy.zip

>Israel genocides Gaza.
>Israel surprise attacks Iran during negotiations.
>Trump, against the NPT, demands zero enrichment
Now Trump get on TV and calls Iran a bully.
This is exactly what is meant by gaslighting. Its a narcissistic trait.
>Don't believe your lying eyes.

>>393111
>gaslighting
>Its a narcissistic trait
Checked.
Given that Trump is an actor playing his role, I'm wondering if when he reads from the teleprompter the speech written by the jew; gaslighting gets turbo charged.

Oh God!!! You guys posted so much!
I just managed to connect to the international internet with the help of one of my IT friends.
I think I need to catch up on all the content I missed over the past few days first, and then spam the thread with a bunch of messages in a few hours.
It finally worked!
(Right, I'm the Iranian guy)

Putin was asked why he is not assisting Iran.
His response: “Israel today is almost a Russian-speaking country, two million people from the Soviet Union and Russia live there. We take that into account.”

>>393123
Welcome back.

>>393094
>We have completed our very successful attack
>All planes are now outside of Iran air space
>NOW IS TIME FOR PEACE
What a piece of propaganda crap.
1- The American media was talking about bunker-buster bombs which is absurd. The American planes launched missiles from outside the air defense bubble protecting Iran and they cannot penetrate any subterranean installation. Missiles are too small and their payload is tiny for the task required.
2- No American plane entered the Iranian air space because is a suicidal mission. It would require an air campaign of days if not weeks to destroy radar installations and air defense missile launchers, before regular bombers can flight inside Iran without being shot down.
3- Declaring victory and claiming of looking for peace is baloney, the refueling air tankers that flew from America to Europe were moved for a reason, the long bombing campaign described above is already planned and is waiting to start.

>>393124
Trump just declared a war. 22 June 4:00 AM. This is fucking serious.

>>393128
It's just a police action; nothing need come of it.

>>393129
quite well done.

>>393130
You are not understand. Just imagine, if Trump burn bible on live broadcast. This is equivalent of 22 June 4:00 AM bombing. I was participate in 9 may parade in one of southern cities, we have some kind of ancestors cult "The eternal regiment", when descendants of war veterans carry photos of grandfathers. So, I just stand near the street with stop-watch and count up number of citizens in procession. Thousands and thousands, 25% of city population with relatives, killed in Great War. Just imagine this number. And now Trump spit in face every single of them.

This is not just challenge, this is crusade from now.

>>393133
Nope, I am not understand.

we didn't declare war, we fixed a problem. It should be done now. All Persia needs to do is stop trying to vaporize the world and we can be done now.

>this is crusade
Whelp, it was nice knowing you then. Bye.

>>393130
>>393134
You are a fool.

>>393135
There's a lot more going on than what you're willing to take notice of.
Iran was set up by Killary; part of the U1 scandal that Comey will have to answer for later. This step was needed to cut off the tumor we'd let grow, blinded by the fake-news mainstream.
A lot of terrible open-secrets will need to be cleaned up to free the Iranians to fight for their freedom to be Persia again. No, that's not our deal but we're part of the problem, and Trump has been chosen by the People to make it actually happen.

>>393136
>Iran was set up by Killary; part of the U1 scandal that Comey will have to answer for later.
I don't care.
>This step was needed to cut off the tumor we'd let grow
Israel is a bigger tumor. Bomb them instead.
>blinded by the fake-news mainstream.
You use right wing terminology like buzzwords, but your words are poison. Glow harder.
>A lot of terrible open-secrets will need to be cleaned up to free the Iranians to fight for their freedom to be Persia again.
None of our business.
>we're part of the problem
Don't care.
>Trump has been chosen by the People to make it actually happen
This is not what we voted for. Fuck off with your Bush-era neocon globohomo faggotry.

>>393137
>don't care.
Then stop talking as if you did.

>This is not what we voted for.
I voted for freedom. You glow.

>>393138
>Then stop talking as if you did
No. I will speak however I please. I care about the USA not getting involved in sandnigger wars, especially not for the protection of Jews.
>I voted for freedom. You glow.
Lol, lmao even. Shill harder glowie.

>>393130
You Glownigger chucklefucks couldn't even beat the Taliban after 20 years of fighting.
The result of your war with Iraq was ISIS.
And now you want us to believe that ama war with a country 8 times the size of Iraq will go smoothly? For Israel's benefit?
You sit on a throne of lies. Fuck off.

>>393139
>I will speak however I please
I don't care if you speak, I care if you lie to yourself. You do care.

>Shill harder
I posit that MLPOL, of all places, is not for circle jerking. It is for open consideration.

And we've been the source of sandnigger aggression for a long, long time. It needs to be done right, because of the lies used to get them built up.

>>393140
>couldn't even beat the Taliban
That's mostly because we were paying them. Trump shut them down in his first term by cutting off their supply of tax money.

>war with a country 8 times the size of Iraq
There's no war; at least not from the US - Europe might take offense, the globohomos won't go down quietly, but that bombing wasn't a war, it was a warning.

>You sit on a throne of lies. Fuck off.
That's rich. Also, again, this is MLPol. Its okay if we disagree with each other.

>>393141
>You do care.
I literally could not care less about Iran.
I would be thrilled if Israel were destroyed though, so I guess I care about that.
>I posit that MLPOL, of all places, is not for circle jerking. It is for open consideration.
Glowpigs like you show up to shill every time Israel is in major news. Do you get a budget boost every time that happens?
>And we've been the source of sandnigger aggression for a long, long time.
Yes, like funding Israel. Stop funding Israel.
>It needs to be done right, because of the lies used to get them built up
It doesn't need to be done at all. Let Israel fend for itself.
Or better, destroy Israel. That is the one war I would support.
>That's mostly because we were paying them. Trump shut them down in his first term by cutting off their supply of tax money.
I know how it happened, you nitwit. Point still stands.
>There's no war; at least not from the US
Bombing someone is an act of war.
If Russia bombed the USA, but didn't declare war, would you call it a war?
>the globohomos won't go down quietly
>globohomos
You are a disgraceful parasite, spitting buzzwords without knowing their meaning.
Get better material.
>That's rich. Also, again, this is MLPol. Its okay if we disagree with each other.
Sure, you can disagree, and I will call you out every time.
Sit tight on that throne. You're kind will be eradicated.

>>393142
>If Russia bombed the USA, but didn't declare war, would you call it a war?
Depends on what happened the next day. We might declare war on them, but if nobody declared war, and no other bombings happened, it was just posturing.
You've never gotten punched for walking out of a bar? That's not a fight if the other person just keeps walking.

>you are kind will
So close. SO close.

>>393143
>You've never gotten punched for walking out of a bar? That's not a fight if the other person just keeps walking.
Punching someone is provoking a fight.
It really is true, isn't it? The Jew really does cry out in pain as he strikes you.

The Seinfeld days are over, kike. Your tricks don't work on us anymore.

https://www.jns.org/iaea-no-radiation-spike-after-iran-nuclear-site-strikes/
The U.S. may well have wasted most of their inventory of the largest conventional bombs ever made and failed to do anything significant.

>>393123
I'm so glad to see you again. Any insider news? Pretty please! We are starving here.

I'm trying to make timeline of bombings and air defense activities to determine main vector of attack, structure of air operation and number of active aircrafts per day. I gather some data from 4chan (news + timing), but I have only one friend who can confirm/deny from Iranian sources.

Table:
https://paste.debian.net/plainh/ced6bbe4

>>393148
>I'm trying to make timeline of bombings and air defense activities
>and air defense activities
That info can get irananon executed very fast.

>>393149
>That info can get irananon executed very fast.
That is a sacrifice that Israel is willing to make.

But, seriously, I mean Air Raid Alarms, like Ukrainian ones. Actually very usefull data.

That's an odd thing to say.

...so that happened.

>>393159
What happened?

>>393126
>The American planes launched missiles from outside the air defense bubble protecting Iran and they cannot penetrate any subterranean installation. Missiles are too small and their payload is tiny for the task required.
Confirmed. America shot 30 old Tomahawk missiles. It was all a propaganda operation.
>the refueling air tankers that flew from America to Europe were moved for a reason
Confirmed. American planes are massing in Saudi Arabia. War is going to get real soon.

PUTIN EXPLAINS SITUATION WITH IRAN:
- Iran agreement does not have a defense clause
- Iran does not ask Russia for help
- Iran did not want to cooperate with Russia on air defense previously

Iran fights the fight alone, they’re proud and want to be self reliant.

jewess influencer who mocked Palestinian victims gets bombed by Iran, her home got destroyed.

>>393166
Karmas coming home to roost.

>>392216
>>393078
I noticed one thing. They always trying to show that you are nothing, but take a look at their operations: false flags, elections frauds, distraction and assassination. Almost entirely psychological warfare, the cheapest form of war. Maybe they just don't have resources for other kinds of war?

I know 4 types of warfare:
- War of Ares -- military campaign, intimidation.
- War of Athena -- trade war, blockade, war of attrition.
- War of Apollo -- psychological warfare, ideology, media.
- War of Venus -- reproduction, education, replacement, genocide.

Main difference between types of warfare not methods, but time. War of Ares is blitzkrieg. War of Athena may last for years to strangle enemy economy. War of Apollo lasts through decades to reprogramming next generation. War of Venus erase nations through hundreds of years.

During 19th and early 20th century Old Europe was extremely effective in war of Ares/Athena/Apollo, but underestimated Venus aspect and fail miserable to growing USA and USSR. The Cold War was mostly war of Athena and USSR expected victory after Vietnam, because of oil crisis and better energy efficacy, but suddenly makes a row of bad decisions, lost economical war tempo and fail to western media. Contrary to general opinion, fail of Soviet Union was based not on economical problems, but on ideological treachery.

Early 21th century was period of almost pure psychological warfare: social networks, color revolutions. Every single western military campaign was supported by fifth column on the ground with small number of high-tech aviation and economical pressure. Only after 2020s Russia turn the tide to traditional military confrontation and USA with China recently show us classical trade war. I think, during 2020s psychological operations will be transformed from major offensive instrument to support role in military warfare. During stormy 2030s Ares and Athena will prevails with predominance of Ares aspect.

Combination of Shahed drones for long-range barrage and FPV-drones for tactical defense returned warfare to early 20th century. Drone warfare revolution just like artillery revolution during World War 1. Difference in distances. We don't need strongpoints to control frontline, now we have 5-10 km of dead zone between sides and less than 15 soldiers per square kilometer in following 50 km zone. Heavy vehicles almost useless: you can breach line, but you can't hide your tanks without prepared shelters in following days. FPV-drone teams on civilian cars have much better mobility and camouflage. Combined arms battalion even worse than infantry battalion because of more engineering preparations and hardest logistics (shells+artillery+fuel 10 times heavier than drones+car with equal efficacy). Offense too costly compared to war of attrition, but armies must be numerous to endure losses and psychological pressure of drone warfare.

Modern country can draft 5% population maximum (25% of healthy mans). For 10 million Israel army limited by 0.5 million. This is enough for 600 km frontline, but Israel has horrible borders with neglible strategical depth. This is why jews so desperately trying to secure borders of their holy country and weaken every single competitor in region. They just don't have numbers for war of Ares and influence on nearest factions to make muslims fight for them. With air support of 100-200 combat sorties daily Israel can't endure pressure of 0.5 million army with bases in Iraq and Syria, with 2000 FPV-drone teams, 8 millions of FPV-drone strikes and 400k loses with 80k KIA during year-long war. Russia can train such number of Iranian drone teams in 2 years and 8 million of drones means just 200k ton of munition, which can be transported easily through Iran-China railroad (though 0.5 million army logistics with 200-300k ton/month other supplies through Iraq and Syria under airstrikes will be much more tricky than Israeli sea logistics).

I think jews considered threat of drone warfare very seriously and ready to any treachery to harm Iran just because of Iran-China railroad. Egypt can be blocked and starved, Turkey can be blocked and politically unstable, but Iran has two secured supply routes with China and Russia. If USA starts military campaign to block South China Sea, Israel will be in peril, because it is weak spot for american jews.

BREAKING NEWS: IRAN ATTACKED U.S' BASES IN QATAR!!!

>>393169
Six missiles, all intercepted.
Big deal.

If only the jews weren't so hasty in bribing their way to holding jerusalem, they wouldn't have to stress themselves over irate muslims every day. I reckon living in half-glassed desert for a whole century has really dented the minds of the people there.

No joke, I'm really starting to think Trump is "خدازده"! (Persian term)
Why the fuck did he say this??! Does he still hope to win the nobel peace prize???
He says once he doesn't want to go to war, then says he won't go to war for two weeks, then says Iran needs to come back to the negotiations, then says the regime in Iran has to be changed, then says peace has to happen. And now he's acting like everything's over with a happy ending. Does no one drug test this guy? This isn't some multi-dimensional chess anymore, Trump's trying to fool Iran, Israel, Europe, America, his own cabinet, and even himself! I swear, Trump's playing checkers with chess pieces or something!

>>393175
Welp, if this doesn't earn him the Nobel Peace Prize then nothing will.

>>393176
Honestly, in my opinion, the nobel peace prize is the dumbest nobel award and just makes the whole scientific foundation look like a joke. But Trump can't just attack Iran (not even with a false flag) and then suddenly end the war all at once.
If anyone can start a war and then say they want peace, so does that mean if, say, Khamenei suddenly declares peace, he's suddenly a nobel peace prize candidate? I think Trump totally blew his chance, and the peace prize isn't *that* dumb anymore to give it to someone as controversial as him.

>>393177
Yeah, but they gave one to Obama simply because he wasn't George W. Bush.

>>393175
>Why the fuck did he say this?
>He says once he doesn't want to go to war, then says he won't go to war for two weeks, then says Iran needs to come back to the negotiations, then says the regime in Iran has to be changed, then says peace has to happen.
My suspicion is advanced schizophrenia powered by dope.

>>393175
PEACE through RAPE
>>393166
she was definately tempting fate there lol

>>393175
Because he's a fat retarded annoying orange schizo, you do know that right?

Alright anons, I was working on a few long-ass replies to cover most of the earlier posts, but for now I gotta drop some takes in this critical moment:
First off, I always saw this war with the U.S as some gay slap-fight, but the one with Israel is at least a bit more serious.
Right now, neither Iran nor Israel really has decent air defense. Israel, with all its bragging about "iron dome this, iron beam that" is getting smacked around and can't even intercept most of Iran's incoming stuff. So basically this war has turned into a no-guard boxing match, and here's the kicker:
Everyone kinda knows that in a war of attrition, Iran wins in the long run. Israel's small. No depth, no real capacity for prolonged direct warfare like Iran does.
So when Israel felt the heat, it dragged the U.S in. And what did America do? A gay little show strike, hit a couple empty nuclear sites, and we're not even sure if they hit anything important. Iran then responded with its own show strike, hitting America's biggest base in the region, which was also empty.
(For >>393171 ,a few missiles hit something, there's footage going around despite the censorship, but still, not much effect. Just theater.)
IMO, Trump's trying to toss the ball into Iran's court, pretending like he's not the one escalating, but it's laughable.
I'd say there's a 98% chance Iran won't go for peace (2% chance they might, cause let's be real, Iran's got some dumbass politicians who might fall for the bait). Trump probably still doesn't get how nationalist Iran is right now, he thinks Iranians are just gonna chill and be grateful or something.
My prediction: Trump wants to stall things and give Israel time to recover (even though numerically, Israel took more damage). But unlike Israel, Iran doesn't live off foreign taxpayers' money. So the U.S will probably push for internal regime change, more likely than a direct strike. That's the most realistic scenario if Iran falls into that 2%.
As of now, Iran most likely won't accept peace and will keep going, probably without hitting the U.S again, instead doubling down on attrition against Israel. And even if the U.S goes full rogue and assassinates Khamenei, whether peace happens or not, I don't think the regime falls. His more radical son would likely take over and might even order an actual nuke strike.
And if they take out his son too? Then it's game over, Iran becomes a straight-up pissed-off military regime, even more dangerous for Israel.
Honestly, I think the reason Khamenei hasn't been taken out yet is because both the U.S and Israel know he's been the one guy stopping an all-out atomic war.
So yeah, it all comes down to whether Iran chooses that 2% or the 98%.

>>393183
You're riding khamenei's cock too much, he's not that much of a keeping things cool guy he's no different than his son or other iranian generals

>>393179
We're talking about the nobel foundation here. A democrat or someone on the left has always had a better shot at winning than a republican or anyone on the right. The nobel is so left-leaning, they wouldn't give that prize to Trump even under normal circumstances, let alone now!

>>393184
I don't think you actually know my stance on this guy. Scroll up and see who’s been criticizing him, that was me.
The only reason our interests align right now is because we share a common enemy. Otherwise, under normal circumstances, I genuinely hate him. Even now, I'd rather see him assassinated than see Israel get threatened by someone even more radical.
Also, don't argue with someone you clearly know less than. I even know the difference between him and his son. You arabs will never know more than an Iranian about another Iranian, especially when the topic is an Iranian.
So please, in this particular case, just shut up and accept that this man's existence is in Israel's favor. Otherwise, Israel would've taken him out already.

>>393186
>accept that this man's existence is in Israel's favor. Otherwise, Israel would've taken him out already.
Do you think i haven't already realized that? Enmity between iran and israel is just kid's play, if anything they're allies
Us arabs have known this for decades and most iranians aren't even able to comprehend it, silly

>>393175
>And now he's acting like everything's over with a happy ending
Better than the alternative.

>>393186
>>393187
I like you both.

>>393189
I like you too swedebro

>>393183
There were always going to be breaches of Israel's defenses, because Irans chief military tactic is "swarming", where they routinely launch out-sized attacks with multiple cheap platforms (drones, rockets, small boats, etc.) in the hopes of overwhelming the enemy's defenses and getting some of the attack through. It's tough on their resources, of course, which is why they are likely to accept the cease-fire, so they have time to re-arm.

>>393175
keyfabe.
You are watching a movie.

>>393194
>Kabuki Theater
Well, the theory that they are ALL playing in the same team and performing a show for the masses is getting more real.

>>393187
Silly???
You are the sillies to think this way. What exactly have the arabs known for decades?! You don't even know yourselves!
In the six-day War, almost all of you arabs were defeated by Israel, with your ridiculous pan-arabist spirit! What happened? Why is that spirit gone? Why don't you support the palestinian arabs anymore? Why does Iran, a non-arab country, support them more than you arabs do? (Of course, if you think Iran supports palestine solely out of compassion, you are seriously mistaken! Palestine is a pawn and a pretext for Iran's influence, but I cannot ignore that fortunately(or unfortunately) we have been a compassionate people even for you fools.)
So what happened that in your arab culture you betray each other so easily?! Don't tell me you want to say palestine is no longer arab? Or maybe your arab sheikhs have gotten so fat from oil money that they prefer to abandon their ideals?
You arabs know (I don't think you're so foolish as to not understand this simple point), but you even betray your own ideals, and you know it. Yet you try to fool yourselves into thinking that this is better and smarter! Yes, for now your countries are not collapsing because you are getting fat off oil money. But suppose, for example, Iran closes the strait of Hormuz for a month, your sheikhs would go crazy! You would tear each other apart! Every tribe and faction would divide your countries because your money would be running out!
And now you think you're really in a good position? You have officially become America's colony! Even with all those big and lucrative deals, you couldn't convince Trump to call the Persian Gulf the "Fucking Arabian Gulf." You have been literally fucked by American bases and companies, but you prefer to live in your fragile palaces. Arab independence has been dead for a long time. Just last night it was proven that you arabs only need to see a few missiles in the sky and, like your semitic cousins, you scream and run away! (Watch the video, idiot!) Even Sadam and the Iraqis(who, because of their relative closeness to Iranians, have somewhat more dignity than the rest of you arabs) couldn't defeat the Iranians, who had just changed government and were mired in internal conflicts and sanctions, despite all foreign support. In the end, this symbol of your pan-arabism fucked his own people more than anyone else and was fucked himself.
Your regime is just a picture of money, behind which structural corruption, a class system, and poverty exist that you cannot properly cover up.
And the moment you become useless to America, you will easily be discarded and perish with your arrogant stupidity.
And by the way, Iran and Israel allies??! You're really an idiot!
Iran, throughout almost its entire history, has never had a serious relationship with the jews. We freed them, and in return, they celebrate Purim (although the book of Esther is easily found to have historical inaccuracies and is unreliable, but the important thing is that your semitic cousins still celebrate Purim and believe in it). Even many Iranian opposition groups have problems with jews (I will talk about Iranian opposition in the future). Even that fool (Reza Pahlavi 2) tries to have relations with Israel simply because it is the enemy of his enemy. Even his father opposed Israel and only due to American pressure was forced to have relations with it, which was one of the reasons for the revolution against him. The word "Jew"(یهودی) in Iranian culture has always had a negative connotation, and the regime had to eventually replace it with the word "Kalimi" (کلیمی) so people would have less negative attitudes toward the few jews in Iran. In reality, Iran has never been allied with Israel, being allied with Israel is meaningless because they are people who always look down on others, and this is incompatible with the Iranian spirit that refuses to compromise with them.
Now you try to justify that by opposing Israel, the regime gave Israel an excuse for more infiltration and war. You arabs always want to find a reason, even if you have to pull it out of your ass! If Iran cooperated, you would say Iran helps Israel, so they are allies. If Iran stayed neutral, you would say Iran indirectly supports Israel willingly. If Iran opposes, you say Iran gives Israel an excuse, so they are allies. In every case, you say your ridiculous nonsense. But have you ever looked at yourselves??! You have officially become Israel's servants, trampled on your ideals, and even betrayed your own sects (and even abandoned your sunni ideology!). You pretend to oppose Israel, but you maintain relations with it and empower it, and when Iran attacks Israel, you shut up because you are cowards! In the end, Israel with its "fucking greater Israel" dream invades half of your arab lands and you do nothing.
Of course, if you think Iranians do not know you arabs, you are seriously mistaken, fools!
Almost all Iranians hate you arabs (they have no problem with the Arabs of Khuzestan, because they are honorable Iranians who stood against your pan-arabism in the Iran-Iraq war), and know that you are slaves to money and pleasure!
There is a story that says a jew, an Iranian, and an arab are given money. The Iranian uses the money to make weapons and armor and strengthen his city. The jew uses the money to expand his trade and make more money. And the arab uses the money to buy goods from the jew and lives in the Iranian city, pays taxes to him, and wastes all his time on pleasure and laziness.
Yes, this is your essence! That's why when Iran's oil was priced in triple digits and it sold a lot, it used that money to strengthen other industries and advance its existence, like this nuclear thing (although I will later talk about some mistakes and my views on alternatives), but you arabs, instead of developing your real infrastructure, are only focused on appearances. In the end, your oil will run out and you will be overthrown.

>>393188
Sorry, but you remind me of those dinosaurs who looked up at the sky and said how beautiful that meteor was.
Just because Trump acts, doesn't mean his intentions are truly what they seem. Even right now, if peace happens, Israel has more than enough excuses to bleed you Americans dry for "damages", and then prepare for the next attack and the next round of expenses, on your dime.
The survival of Israel is actually against your own interests.
Just saying…

>>393189
Thanks, anon.
And I'm happy you didn't take it serious, These are just some argument and explaining some obvious points to the other side.

>>393191
What you're saying makes sense, but I'll say it again, I don't think Iran will accept. Though, it depends.

>>393192
>>393194
>>393195
Yes, as I said, I expected the war between Iran and the U.S to be mostly theatrical. Even Israel didn't expect that. But Trump has gotten too caught up in the show. Talking about peace was way too early.

>>393197
>Just because Trump acts, doesn't mean his intentions are truly what they seem.
I don't care about intentions. I just don't want to get dragged into any more wars. I don't care if he looks obnoxious and retarded, so long as it ends here.
>Even right now, if peace happens, Israel has more than enough excuses to bleed you Americans dry for "damages", and then prepare for the next attack and the next round of expenses, on your dime.
They would do that no matter what the circumstances.
>The survival of Israel is actually against your own interests.
I know that. I hope they all die.

>>393201
Well yes, I'm definitely glad that at least I'm not going to fight people who themselves don't believe in this war. But at the same time, I know that in the end, Trump won't act in your favor. This is probably just to please some MAGA supporters before he wants to use them again. What matters is the outcome, and I don't think it will be a good one... But in any case, let's hope this conflict stays between the jews and the Iranians. Personally, I prefer no other country gets involved in my war.

>>393196
Thanks anon, I learned more about Iran from your posts than from hours of lectures.

>>393194
Sad story, actually. One of my friends and poner, who scanned and translated rare military manuals for me was killed on the opposite side. And another one run from Ukraine to Israel before war. Pint of Jewish blood and providence saved him at that time, but no one know for how long. This spiral of escalation dragged us too low and no one ready to stop, or at least show some mercy to enemy, since each side already spend too much efforts to victory in this war. And this is mostly Russian fault, because of our initial arrogance and still lasting disrespect.

>>393201
>I hope they all die.
I'm not. Despite my personal attitude, I was worried about Jewish future. I know, they deserve no more mercy that they show to Palestinians, but Putin was right when he called Israel Russian-speaking country. And now they are hated everywhere on the world, even Americans almost ready to gas another 6 million kikes. And even in this situation they don't show any nobility, just more arrogance. Ending is predictable, but still sad.

At least, it will be hilarious, when our media kikes who run to Israel from the prison-of-nations will be forced to run back to our patient and merciful Jew-loving fuhrer.

>>393205
Good to hear that, anon. As I said, I'll talk more about Iran in the future days. I think it may help you, or anyone else want to know about it. I haven't said about a lot of things, yet.

>>393205
>I was worried about Jewish future.
Me too. There is a very probable chance some of them will escape execution and survive.
F

Surprised London hasn't torn itself apart yet tbh.

>>393208
It will, just be patient.

>>393196
The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture, methodology and can rant about it for you for hours, and some people are just whiney peckeys who want to find negatives in arabs like (You)
>In the six-day War, almost all of you arabs were defeated by Israel, with your ridiculous pan-arabist spirit! What happened? Why is that spirit gone?
Because pan-arabism is a dead retarded ideology, arab leaders have learned to not fuck with israel a long time ago
>Why don't you support the palestinian arabs anymore?
We literally do though? We send them humanitarian aid all the time
>Why does Iran, a non-arab country, support them more than you arabs do?
Iran sees palestine as nothing but a tool that serves their interests, if they really care for palestine then they would've already sent their own forces to die and fight for palestinian soil but they didn't, all they can do is give their puppet militants in foreign countries some guns and rockets because they're cowards who are afraid of having a real face to face ground war with israel
>(Of course, if you think Iran supports palestine solely out of compassion,
Well yeah i just explained that
>you are seriously mistaken! Palestine is a pawn and a pretext for Iran's influence, but I cannot ignore that fortunately(or unfortunately) we have been a compassionate people even for you fools.)
Lol no, literally ask any palestinian about iran and 99% of the time they would say negative things about it because they realize that as i said, iran sees them as nothing but a tool and not a "pretext" or an ally
>So what happened that in your arab culture you betray each other so easily?!
Betrayals happened easily in all parts and cultures of the world
>Don't tell me you want to say palestine is no longer arab?
Nope
>Or maybe your arab sheikhs have gotten so fat from oil money that they prefer to abandon their ideals?
What sheikhs?
>You arabs know (I don't think you're so foolish as to not understand this simple point), but you even betray your own ideals, and you know it. Yet you try to fool yourselves into thinking that this is better and smarter!
What are you exactly referring by "your own ideals" here? Do you basically other arabs in general, or arabs who share the same political positions and ideologies?
>Yes, for now your countries are not collapsing because you are getting fat off oil money. But suppose, for example, Iran closes the strait of Hormuz for a month, your sheikhs would go crazy! You would tear each other apart! Every tribe and faction would divide your countries because your money would be running out!
And now you think you're really in a good position?
This argument doesn't matter because you're using a non realistic example, iran doesn't have the balls to do that
>You have officially become America's colony! Even with all those big and lucrative deals, you couldn't convince Trump to call the Persian Gulf the "Fucking Arabian Gulf."
No arab cares about what that orange retard calls stuff by
>You have been literally fucked by American bases and companies, but you prefer to live in your fragile palaces.
This reeks of envy, you're just seething because some arabs live between luxurious societies while you live in the slums of tehran lmfao
>Arab independence has been dead for a long time.
Unfortunately if i'm gonna be completely honest it was never alive
>Just last night it was proven that you arabs only need to see a few missiles in the sky and, like your semitic cousins, you scream and run away! (Watch the video, idiot!)
How else do you want them to react to missles flying over them?
>Even Sadam and the Iraqis(who, because of their relative closeness to Iranians, have somewhat more dignity than the rest of you arabs) couldn't defeat the Iranians who had just changed government and were mired in internal conflicts and sanctions, despite all foreign support. In the end, this symbol of your pan-arabism fucked his own people more than anyone else and was fucked himself.
This is pretty much the only thing i might agree with you on, ba'athism has been only bringing arabs downhill
>Your regime is just a picture of money, behind which structural corruption, a class system, and poverty exist that you cannot properly cover up.
This is pretty ironic said by an iranian, just take a glance at your shithole (picrel)

>>393196
>And the moment you become useless to America, you will easily be discarded and perish with your arrogant stupidity.
Nigga fuck amerimutts we don't need them to have stable countries
>And by the way, Iran and Israel allies??! You're really an idiot!
>Iran, throughout almost its entire history, has never had a serious relationship with the jews. We freed them, and in return, they celebrate Purim (although the book of Esther is easily found to have historical inaccuracies and is unreliable, but the important thing is that your semitic cousins still celebrate Purim and believe in it). Even many Iranian opposition groups have problems with jews (I will talk about Iranian opposition in the future). Even that fool (Reza Pahlavi 2) tries to have relations with Israel simply because it is the enemy of his enemy. Even his father opposed Israel and only due to American pressure was forced to have relations with it, which was one of the reasons for the revolution against him. The word "Jew"(یهودی) in Iranian culture >has always had a negative connotation, and the regime had to eventually replace it with the word "Kalimi" (کلیمی) so people would have less negative >attitudes toward the few jews in Iran. In reality, Iran has never been allied with Israel, being allied with Israel is meaningless because they are people who always look down on others, and this is incompatible with the Iranian spirit that refuses to compromise with them.
Now you try to justify that by opposing Israel, the regime gave Israel an excuse for more infiltration and war. You arabs always want to find a reason, even if you have to pull it out of your ass! If Iran cooperated, you would say Iran helps Israel, so they are allies. If Iran stayed neutral, you would say Iran indirectly supports Israel willingly. If Iran opposes, you say Iran gives Israel an excuse, so they are allies. In every case, you say your ridiculous nonsense. But have you ever looked at yourselves??! You have officially become Israel's servants, trampled on your ideals, and even betrayed your own sects (and even abandoned your sunni ideology!). You pretend to oppose Israel, but you maintain relations with it and empower it, and when Iran attacks Israel, you shut up because you are cowards! In the end, Israel with its "fucking greater Israel" dream invades half of your arab lands and you do nothing.
You can flex about iran and persians being le based kike haters as much as you want but the reality is that you and jews are spiritually not only allies but the same people
Jews are the enemies of prophets, iranians (who are mostly shias) are enemies sahaba
Jews want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of greater israel, iranians want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of "islamic" theocracy, and there's alot more similarities but you get my point
>Of course, if you think Iranians do not know you arabs, you are seriously mistaken, fools!
>Almost all Iranians hate you arabs (they have no problem with the Arabs of Khuzestan, because they are honorable Iranians who stood against your pan-arabism in the Iran-Iraq war), and know that you are slaves to money and pleasure!
You know about us so much because you have hatred against us, not the opposite
>There is a story that says a jew, an Iranian, and an arab are given money. The Iranian uses the money to make weapons and armor and strengthen his city. The jew uses the money to expand his trade and make more money. And the arab uses the money to buy goods from the jew and lives in the Iranian city, pays taxes to him, and wastes all his time on pleasure and laziness.
No arabs wants to live in your iranian hellholes
>Yes, this is your essence! That's why when Iran's oil was priced in triple digits and it sold a lot, it used that money to strengthen other industries and advance its existence, like this nuclear thing (although I will later talk about some mistakes and my views on alternatives), but you arabs, instead of developing your real infrastructure, are only focused on appearances.
We develop both of those at the same time actually, something you people are unable to do
>In the end, your oil will run out and you will be overthrown.
Dream about it persoid, even before oil arabs still raped your entire civilization