/cyb/ - Cyberpunk Fiction and Fact

>>1945
I still think it's fundamentally worse when Art is the target. Forget about employment. If a law somehow managed to end Art as a commodity it wouldn't even matter to me. I've considered Art as the soul and heart of what means to be human for a long time.
How many times have people said corny shit like.
<"Sure, machines are better than humans at a lot of things. But can a machine turn a blank canvas into a masterpiece."

No disrespect for manual labor, a lot of that is also a form of Art in a way. Uncle Adolf said there must be respect between those who work with their mind, and those who work with their body.
The fact AI or machine learning can eventually master every form of human Art might as well be the end of mankind for me. I think many people just forget that AI digital Art, was once as shit as AI writing currently is.
There is nothing that can be done about that. Technology gives and takes. It already killed the mystery behind chess and further diminished the role of creativity.

>>1950
Does AI art really do anything to diminish actual art though? It's not zero sum.
Also, it's worth mentioning that it takes a not-insignificant amount of creativity and persistence to make these images. On top of coming up with a prompt, you have to refresh the program hundreds of times over the course of hours to get satisfying images. That is an expression of the individual, even if it's generated by a machine.
I believe that AI art will usher in a new era of creativity and content/shitposting, where individuals are no longer limited by their personal skill at drawing.
>It already killed the mystery behind chess
Oh yeah. Big RIP for chess players. Even low-power programs are basically unbeatable at this point. It's like trying to arm wrestle the Terminator.

>>1950
>The fact AI or machine learning can eventually master every form of human Art might as well be the end of mankind for me.
Why does it matter though? We live in a nightmarish, dystopian hellhole that's only going to get significantly worse before it might even have a chance of getting better. Who cares?
Also, the human "spirit" isn't going anywhere when it comes to art and artistic expression. People will always find a way to make art in one way or another and AI has no effect on that. Do you really care if the shitty corporate calarts diversity portraits are made by AI?
The reaction to AI art reminds me of when buzzfeed journos were laid off and got told to "learn to code". Poetic justice.

>>1951
>On top of coming up with a prompt
>I believe that AI art will usher in a new era of creativity and content/shitposting, where individuals are no longer limited by their personal skill at drawing.
I apologize for being unnecessarily rude earlier. But, fuck...
Here we go again, over and over again. Do you seriously can't fucking grasp that AI art will most likely NOT be limited to digital drawing? It's like you didn't even read the fucking post.

>>1952
>Also, the human "spirit" isn't going anywhere when it comes to art and artistic expression. People will always find a way to make art in one way or another and AI has no effect on that.
It was perhaps the greatest stronghold of man against the machine. The one thing that was meant to set us apart. Sure you can still play chess...I don't even thing you get it. That or you're not arguing in good faith.
>The reaction to AI art reminds me of when buzzfeed journos were laid off and got told to "learn to code". Poetic justice.
Well I don't think journalism is a great example of the "human spirit", specially the kind of journalism we are talking about.

>>1960
>AI art will most likely NOT be limited to digital drawing?
What's wrong with that? It's more content creation. It's not going prevent people from making their own art without it. It'll just enable people to generate content very quickly. It still requires human input to get ideas in the first place.

>>1961
>It still requires human input to get ideas in the first place.
Bait or sheer retardation. That is kind of the gamble one has to make these days.

>>1962
It hasn't gotten to the point of generating completely original ideas that fulfill needs that people didn't even know they had.

>>1961
Am gonna try one more time just because people seem to be helplessly clueless everywhere I go, and thus I'm inclined to believe you are being serious.
Picture the following.
AI unironically starts writing novels better than anything man can conjure.
As I implied here >>1950
>I think many people just forget that AI digital Art, was once as shit as AI writing currently is.

Do you seriously thing a prompt is hot shit for that kind of AI?
>It hasn't gotten to the point...
<YET

>>1964
>AI unironically starts writing novels better than anything man can conjure.
Okay, but what's so bad about this? Sounds like it could be really productive.

Yeah, I figured it was bait. Great venting in the end, have a nice day lads.

Have a Fluttershy

>>1968
Thanks Karen, pretty cool.

>>1969
Based Karen

>>1960
>It was perhaps the greatest stronghold of man against the machine.
Machines are made by people and I'd consider them an extension of humanity in a way. There is no man vs dichotomy as far as I'm concerned. One should aspire to harness the glory of a big block V8 powering a computer that generates ultra realistic images of pony pussy while running over niggers.
>I don't even thing you get it. That or you're not arguing in good faith.
Reevaluate.

>>1971
>Reevaluate
You don't. Consider yourself victorious either way. It doesn't even matter.

So many cute poners

>>1972
Cheer up. Try considering the pros of AI advancing. Imagine no longer being beholden to artists to get your fix of mares.

>>1987
Based Veggie Tales right once again.

>>1985
>>1987
I should make the first randomly generated fire emblem game.
the music? AI generated. the plot? AI generated. every character? every level? AI generated. Fuck trying to write anything important with deep themes. I should start with the default template people expect from FE and then fill it with AI generated content.

>>2013
Fuck you.

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>>2017
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>>2020
I'm speechless.

>>2021
I see hundreds of pics of this quality on discord every day. I just only bothered dumping some now.

>>2017
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>>2019
>>2020
Absolutely amazing!
>>2022
More, please!

>>2017
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>>2020
Wow. They look great.
Do you know what model was used to create those images?

Purplesmart AI has been improving:
https://discord.gg/4QDFxbRmjV

>>2024
Program: automatic1111
Model: Astralites Ponyv1
Sampler: Euler a
Prompt: detailed fluffy fur, unicorn, (by taran fiddler and chunie , Michael & Inessa Garmash, Ruan Jia, Pino Daeni), volumetric lighting, ambient bloom, 4K, ((((solo)))), (((golden medieval full armor))), (golden full muzzle helmet with metal ears), (face covered), ((Fire for hair)), holy light

>>2026
Where can I get the Astralites Ponyv1 model?
I tried that prompt without the model and got this.

>>2027
Tested and loos like this is the model.
https://huggingface.co/AstraliteHeart/pony-diffusion
https://mega.nz/file/ZT1xEKgC#Xxir5udMmU_mKaRZAbBkF247Yk7DqCr01V0pDzSlYI0

>>2030
How does the model make art that good when most fandom art is show tracing- I mean vector art?

>>2031
I think that is one of the wonders of Neural Networks. No one knows exactly why it works so good as it does only that it works. But it is hit and misses in depending on seed number.

>>2030
In case people want to know. For that image (that looked best so far and first I ran) used the Prompt by >>2026
>detailed fluffy fur, unicorn, (by taran fiddler and chunie , Michael & Inessa Garmash, Ruan Jia, Pino Daeni), volumetric lighting, ambient bloom, 4K, ((((solo)))), (((golden medieval full armor))), (golden full muzzle helmet with metal ears), (face covered), ((Fire for hair)), holy light
>Steps: 20, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 3081589709, Size: 512x512

>>2034
I've heard of training girls, but this is ridiculous!
What is this, the next Kantai Collection spinoff?

>>2034
>trains and anime
Add ponies to the equation and we'd have enough autism to go to Mars and back.

>>2037
And Sonic. Autists love Sonic for some reason.
Maybe they wish they were Sonic? Maybe Tails the shy small genius child who wants to be cool like Sonic appeals to them? Maybe they just like fast things.

>>2040
I didn't make it, but thanks.

>>2041
Where's the source?

>>2039
It's good, but it makes me dizzy.

>>2039
Videos like this are further proof that AI generated images doesn't "hurt art", but expands it. The concept of art is being democratized, so that even random people who have no talent for drawing or no time to paint can realize their creative ambitions and silly ideas.
It's said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A machine may be able to make immaculate images, but only a human can appreciate them. Likewise, only a human would have thought to use a machine to compile a bunch of anime girls into the Rick Rolled video, and AI helped them do it.

>>2049
Things only have value when they are scarce

>>2052
Art has always been abundant. There's trillions of artworks out there. The fact that unpracticed artists can create their own images with memes just adds to the sphere.
Art didn't suddenly get worse once acrylic paints enabled artists to buy their paint instead of mixing it from the elements.

>>2052
That's only for market value, which is irrelevant. Art's value is subjective.
Just look at the boorus and see how there's tens of thousands of lewd pics of the mane six, but people still get excited when new

>>2053
There aren't. Painting well is hard

>>2054
All value is subjective. That value is based on scarcity. If you have infinite art then all of it becomes boring

There's lots of pics but a tiny fraction of them actually appeal to you. If you can press a button to get a new one perfectly suited to you, you'll get bored of it

EVERYTHING becomes boring if you have an endless supply of it

>>2055
>If you have infinite art then all of it becomes boring
I've seen thousands of conventional pony artworks and thousands of AI artworks in the past couple weeks alone, but I'm not bored at all.
>That value is based on scarcity.
I beg to differ. When it comes to art, the more the merrier.
>If you can press a button to get a new one perfectly suited to you, you'll get bored of it
If I became bored of it, it must have not suited me perfectly.
>EVERYTHING becomes boring if you have an endless supply of it
I already have a virtually endless supply of mare porn for free, and I'm not even close to bored of it yet.

>>2052
Things can have inherent value unrelated to their scarcity and how desired they are.
Incredibly rare randomly generated NFTs unlikely to exist don't have any intrinsic value granted by their rarity.

>>2057
>Incredibly rare randomly generated NFTs unlikely to exist don't have any intrinsic value granted by their rarity.
This, regardless of how scarce something is, it's true value is based on one of two things:
1. How useful it is to people
2. It's subjective, sentimental value
AI art is useful, and also enables people to generate artworks that meet their own subjective tastes.

>>2061
Amogüs

>>2064
>A.I. generated
I doubt it. I believe A.I. assisted might be a more accurate term.

>>2066
CUTE

>>2066
Post steamy honeymoon pics pls
Also, checked devil dubs

>>2120
Nice and hot.

>>2150
Pongle 2.0

Does anyone want a grid of 35-50 images made with your chosen prompt? My PC is pretty powerful.

>>2160
Ooooooo. I can try to think of something but from my testing crafting an effective promt is a science in itself so I am not sure what a good promt would be (my testing on my slow computer have not been too successful).
But if you can try to make some statues like in >>2115 (pic 3) it would be awesome. I think they look awesome.

>>2162
I'll need the prompt and model used for those pics. If I just said "(My Little Pony) garden statue" with the default model that came with the AI when I downloaded it I doubt I'll get good results, but I'll give it a go.

By the way, what does "Tiling" do? Whenever I check that box it just makes the output look inferior. Is there some purpose to it I'm missing?

>>2163
The one I had limited success with (but takes 2-3 minutes per image so I was not able to do to much) was:
>pony statue, majestic, alicorn, 4k hi-res, detailed, granite, cracked surface, weathered
>Steps: 20, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 174254891, Size: 512x512

>>2164
2-3 minutes per image? That must suck. How many images can you generate at once before your PC runs out of memory?
One time I left my room with an autoclicker generating more sets of images every minute. By the time I got back, I had a few thousand.

>>2166
>How many images can you generate at once before your PC runs out of memory?
I can only run one at a time, and at times have to close other apps that uses memory in order for it to run.
Are you using the Stable Diffusion Model or Waifu model instead of the Pony model? The Pony Model is good and you should try it
https://huggingface.co/AstraliteHeart/pony-diffusion
https://mega.nz/file/ZT1xEKgC#Xxir5udMmU_mKaRZAbBkF247Yk7DqCr01V0pDzSlYI0

>>2167
Yep, that was the problem. It's turning out a lot better with the pony model.

>>2168
Nice

>>2167
Pony model loaded.
Here are some new AI generated pony statues, image sets 3 and 4 were made with the seed you posted instead of a random seed.
Had to split them up because trying to post the next 4 intact broke some kind of limit. "Request Entity too large".

>>2172
Strange that the first image in the set using same seed and prompt didn't yield the same image as I got as it should have done that. Subsequent images when given a seed should give previous_seed+1 when running batches.

>>2174
Maybe there's a second invisible seed somewhere. All the settings were accurately replicated.

>>2176
Strange. For reference the arguments I use to start Stable Diffusion is:
>--ckpt pony_sfw_80k_safe_and_suggestive_500rating_plus-pruned.ckpt --lowvram --opt-split-attention
Other than that I have the standard settings (no scripts or face fixes or anything) and standard txt2img

>>2177
>lowvram --opt-split-attention
I was using those exact settings except for that part. They just reduce the load on your computer and have no effect on the resulting image, right?

>>2178
They should just reduce the memory used and not change what is produced. Just posted full list of arguments in case I'm wrong on that. It was just strange that you didn't get the same image using same prompt and seed.

>>2179
Was Restore Faces turned on?

>>2180
No, none of the extra features are turned on on my end when I generated.

>>2179
>It was just strange that you didn't get the same image using same prompt and seed.
You see, these AI's no longer "mash" images together with the hope of producing a coherent pic.
They basically emulate human creativity.
Artists need external inputs as well. They consciously and unconsciously absorb bits and pieces from every other artwork they may have seen before. Sometimes it may even be apparently unrelated life experiences.
Regardless, when artists draw inspiration from other art sources. They are pretty much doing the same thing that AI's do.
It's impossible to trace back the source pics. What AI's make is about as original as what any human could've conceived.

It makes sense you don't always get the same results, even when all things are equal.

>>2182
>It makes sense you don't always get the same results, even when all things are equal.
Running same seed and prompt I get same image every time. Also running others prompt and seeds (I seen people post) I get same image they get when using the same model they used.

>>2182
I don't think the AI is updating its own model with data from the pictures it generates.
I hope it isn't. I don't want my AI to give itself dementia by using its garbled output as new input.
By now its garbled output probably outnumbers the number of images it was trained on.

Does anyone have any good images? I tried doing a cursory search on ponerpics and the first few pages were horrid dogshit.

The era of abstract merchants has reached a new golden age.
Merchants are being produced faster than the ADL could ever hope to flag them.

>>2234
How do you make these?
I've got Stable Diffusion working, what's the secret?

>>2235
Idk. I got them from Discord.
If you find out any methods, do share. I want to mass produce merchants.

>>1884
That's not what I meant when I said I wanted racks on racks.

>>2241
Racks on racks on racks on racks. Stacked rat stacks in hats on mats.

Pixiv has lost its collective mind recently (more than before).
It's impossible to use the site without being recommended pics of [i]pregnant toddlers!

>>2248
Oh fuck. Don't some models use data taken from pixiv or anime booru sites?

>>2250
>you will never haiy her lcat or her spry aliet hany
Why live?

I got the new Everything V3 model.
It seems more varied than the previous smaller Waifu model I was using.
But it also loves to wash out the colours of anything I make with it. So I often have to saturate this desaturated art output until it looks right.

"Twilight Sparkle"

>>2273
Nice. Not knowing prompt but adding "(unicorn)" to prompt and "(text), devil" to negative prompt might fix some of the devil horns and and text. Love how AI art is evolving with better and better models.

>>2275
Wow. It looks fantastic.
Is this using upscaling and inpainting or...? if you know.

>>2274
Speaking of AI evolution how do I update my installation of Stable Diffusion? I heard the new version has no limit on text input and is better at drawing hands.

>>2277
The way I do it is that I used git to get the initial code and run an git update in the bat file used to start SD.

So initially do an
>git clone https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui

Then in bat file I do
>...
>set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--ckpt pony_sfw_80k_safe_and_suggestive_500rating_plus-pruned.ckpt --lowvram --opt-split-attention
>
>cd stable-diffusion-webui
>git pull
>call webui.bat
>cd ..

Wtf is he doing to edit the AI generated art and get new ones like that? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aFnGO74KsF0

>>2281
I assumed he did, but looked at description and he is using the Krita plugin for Stable Diffusion that runs an img2img with prompt. It can take basic input and you have to tell it what it should draw and weight how much it should resemble the input image. I am not fully sure how the weights should be but I think the Krita plugin is fairly easy to use.
First get Krita https://krita.org/
Then install the Krita plugin https://github.com/sddebz/stable-diffusion-krita-plugin

You can do the same in Stable Diffusion webui directly by going to the img2img tab.

>>2281
>>2282
I see that he also uses inpaint to fix areas.
I don't have full knowledge on how to use it effectively as my computer takes forever to generate a single image so I can't really play around with it without it taking forever.

>>2283
Have you tried using that setting where your generator makes the image tiny and then scales it up?

>>2287
I have not tried upscaling or any of the fancy options as the biggest I can generate is 512x512 and even that is pushing my card to the limits. And it takes a couple of minutes to generate an image. So experimenting with settings and what it does is an exercise in patience and remembering what I did half an hour ago and if my changes actually had an impact.

>>2288
Damn, that sucks. Back when I had to make do with a piece of shit laptop that would take multiple minutes to boot up and do basic tasks like open the file explorer or open a webpage, I ran Fallout New Vegas at barely 10 frames a second even with the lowest graphics settings and as few mods as possible. The game was borderline unplayable especially when combat started so I had to rely on companions basically doing all combat for me. The lag didn't fuck their attacks up as much. Even the fucking word processor lagged with that thing. A word processor!

Does anyone actually believe GPU prices are dropping down anytime soon?
>>2288
Specs?
>>2291
Lmao
My trashtop struggles to run Halo 2 on anything but low settings.
Android-x86 is game-changing tho. if your phone is old and shitty like mine.
I couldn't have possibly run the PC version of Honkai on that thing.

>>2292
>Does anyone actually believe GPU prices are dropping down anytime soon?
There was talk that GPU prices could drop when Etherium did their change and no longer required top end GPU to mine coins (or something like that). But I assume the Manufacturers/Shops have gotten used to getting paid top dollars so sadly it might take a good while before it drops.

>Specs?
My GPU is an GTX 1060 3GB so it is on the low end to be able to run it at all.

>>2293
>But I assume the Manufacturers/Shops have gotten used to getting paid top dollars
I guess so. I remember some Anons warning about this before.
>GTX 1060 3GB
>Low-end
Welp, I guess I shouldn't even bother.

>>2294
>Welp, I guess I shouldn't even bother.
I think minimum recommended is 4GB card and 3GB is lowest that they had been able to run it on. Still the AI is able to run on consumer grade GPU compared to others that need 40GB+ cards to run so it is much better than what it could have been. But been a while since I read the FAQ and could be they have managed to lower the spec needed (looks like 2GB vram is lowest now) People have been able to run it on CPU only but significantly slower but it is possibilities.

>Nvidia guide: https://rentry.org/voldy
>CPU guide: https://rentry.org/cputard
>AMD guide: https://rentry.org/sdamd
(think this is still the relevant guides)

Can my hp laptop run Crysis Stable Diffusion?
Asking for a poorfag fren that might want to generate mares.

>>2296
I think if you run the CPU version it could work. Not sure though as I haven't tried the CPU one, but it might be worth checking out. If it has an Nvidia GPU with 2GB or more vram it should run according to the guide without problem.

Isn't there a command you can add to the .bat file to make it generate images slower while using less memory at once?

>>2298
Yes, the "--lowvram --opt-split-attention" in the COMMANDLINE_ARGS is the command line args for lowram systems. The "--ckpt " is to select what model it uses (the pony model in this example)
>set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--ckpt pony_sfw_80k_safe_and_suggestive_500rating_plus-pruned.ckpt --lowvram --opt-split-attention

Wait do you mark a word or phrase with (((these))) or !!!these!!! to increase or decrease the importance the AI gives to those words in the request?

>>2300
Yes you have a few weighting and other tricks to do in prompt. Cant remember them all or find the guide that had it all listed but I guess it is in here somewhere https://rentry.org/sdgoldmine
(((increased importance))) - the more paratheses the more importance it should be given

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/406797368
Quality thread.

>>2307
>pic 3
The AI reinterpreted two hoes into one waifu, but one of the hoes is fat enough to be two women.

>>2302
Love the AI renderings. Looking forward to getting "colorized" videos in AI rendering. So much good too look forward to.

Has anyone by the way run any of the CWC comics through any of the AI's yet?

>>2317
nice

How are you AI generating porn?

>>2320
There is an NSFW model but can't find link to it . I assume that is the one being used
...Found the link
>https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39110334/#39114433
>>NSFW Pony Model Weights.
>>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14JyQE36wYABH-0TSV_HBEsBJ3r8ZITrS?usp=sharing

why

Just updated my Stable Diffusion install, I see new buttons and features but the limit on prompts is still there.
How do I get rid of that text limit?

>>2326
>>2325
If you want to get rid of text being generated in image add "text" to negative prompt. At least it usually works to get rid of mangled signatures and such in images.

>>2327
There's a limit on the number of prompts I can give the AI at once. It's around 75 words. How do I break this limit on input text?

>>2329
Not sure, but have you tested if the limit is on number of keywords individual words or if it is on prompt sections.
Like:
>word1, word2, word3, ...
>full sentence 1, full sentence 2, ....
...
>pony, flower, lake
>pony standing in field by a lake surrounded by flowers, stars, moon, (unicorn), by Peter Elson
(I have not run these examples so I have no idea what they will produce)

Only limit I can see is on full input, but I think this is a limit in Stable Diffusion that the webui can't circumvent. But could be that there is a limit on the number of "sections" i.e. keywords, keysentences.

>request man in blue jacket with white flames
Wow, whoever made this AI model loves men.

>>2330
Also I updated my Stable Diffusion installation after wiping my PC. Now the text limit gets slightly higher whenever I go over the limit. Seems to be missing key words now and then, unless I'm using the wrong terms for some things like pony_ears.

Holy mother of God.

>>2334
Does putting Text in the negative prompt get rid of that watermark?
What about mixing the model with other models?

Art Subreddit Bans Guy Because His Work “Looks Like It was AI-Generated”
https://nichegamer.com/art-subreddit-bans-artist-style-ai/

Who are your favourite artists to use for art generation?

>type "horse vagina" over and over
>get this
why

>>2342
I thought combining AI models would make it better at producing horse pussy, not worse. What the hell is this?

>>2342
>>2343
Looks like you need different generating terms or a differently learned model.

>>2344
When I wrote
>blonde
no blonde hair
when I wrote (((((blonde))))) to emphasize the tag above all others I got that weird yellow pic.

Twilight Sparkle

Rainbow Dash
I'm bored now. The art is coming out crappy. I don't think I'll do the rest of the mane six.

>>2347
Are you using the Waifu Model or Pony Model?
>>2321 (Pony model NSFW)
>>2167 (Pony Model SFW)

>>2348
I don't remember if I combined those with the other models or not but I'm sure Everything V3 and an anime waifu model are in there.
The mixed model can't make good porn.

>>2349
Just wondered as the rendering looked a bit like the ones I got when I tried to generate MLP using Waifu model.
>pic 1 Waifu Model (v1.2)
>pic 2 Pony Model

>twilight_sparkle, mlp, seductive
>Steps: 20, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 3967284458, Size: 512x512
>Not the best seed I guess

>>2350
And just to have it added too here is the same prompt and seed in NSFW Pony Model

>>2351
Oh my, are they holding hooves?! How lewd!

So I tried generating something with the (((((arcane style))))) tag and got this.
Turns out if you overrate Arcane's importance you get weird satanic looking shit.

Nigger Sam Hyde.

>>2447
This is interesting. I wonder what it means for the industry as a whole, particularly for artist who only partly use AI tools in their art process.

>>2481
I believe that from the very moment they use it, their human intellectual property goes in flames.

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