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UFOs and aliens are man made.
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This post is inspired by >>>/mlpol/59382.

I have been researching UFOs and aliens for decades. I have found the best way to understand the phenomena is to time-line it and then see what else was happening around the same time. Time-lining it allows the evolution & origin of certain aspects to show up which means you can trace things back to origin points.

I don't concern myself with if each UFO/alien report is real or not real, but I look at it in a wide ranging meta-view and this shows a sensible evolution which implies it is real and therefore the reports are generally mostly real.

I am not sure what the best way is to do this data dump. I have decided to do a succinct 300 year history which can be expanded on by me asking questions. This allows me to keep my efforts in proportion to actual board interest levels.

This initial section is to show the development of human sky technology and also shows that nothing ET UFO like is happening yet.

1758 - Book: Concerning Earths in the Solar System, in which Emanuel Swedenborg detailed his alleged journeys (spiritual) to the inhabited planets (up to Saturn + 5 exo-planets), solar system barrier, suns are black.
1783 - France: Manned balloons
1803 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune
1850 - and onwards triangular shapes are reported in the sky but when researched most of these can be associated with comets and comet fragments (comets tend to break up near Earth, Sun and Jupiter into sharp angular fragments).
1851 - Dr. William Bland sent design: steam engine driving twin propellers suspended under airship to Great Exhibition, London
1852 - Comet fragment dramatically crashes to Earth with sheets of rain (comet water) and dark ominous clouds with read streaks before the massive chunk crashes into the English channel. The other interesting part about this is that it happens near dawn, and the dawn side of the Earth is in the direction of the Earth's travel around the sun. So the Earth overran this comet fragment and sucked it down into it. This dramatically shows how astronomical phenomena can produce UFO reports. Pic #1 Attached.
1863 - “Aereon” by Solomon Andrews (inventor) flew, unpowered, controllable dirigible,Perth Amboy, New Jersey.
1871 - Mystery airship, Mt. Washington, New Hampshire (Solomon Andrews?) See Pic #2. This is one of the earliest UFO reports and we can see it is consistent with an airship. We have no reason to conclude it is ET yet.
1871 - (Vril, the Power of) The Comming Race fiction novel by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. This book in Germany inspires the use of the term Vril for unknown magical/physical forces and leads to the nick name The Vril Society.
1881 - a comet was mistaken as an unusual object in the sky. See pic #3.
1886 - Book: A Dweller on Two Planets, Atlantis, life on Venus, advanced technology, karma, Mt. Shasta. “No telescope will ever reveal human life on Venus; not that it is not there, but its forms are of the One Substance effected by a range of force rendering them imperceptible to earthly eyes." -- what we see here is the myth of sentient life on other planets in our solar system starting to form. There is no reason to reject this notion at that time.
1886 - cheap way to manufacture aluminium is discovered. At this point airships are flying around, some are secret projects. They use bamboo and cloth and ropes. Cheap aluminium allows them to be made of this metal. France is becoming a leader in airship design. You can think of these airships as the B2 bomber of the day, these are very serious military tech for spying and air to ground attack. Therefore there is secrecy around designs as well.
1891 - Contactee Thomas Blott (William Simpson, 1828-1910) The Man from Mars is a book about a Martian explaining how Mars is great and Earth sux, basically. It is not clear if this was supposed to be fiction or a reported event.
1893 - In the article “Man of the Year Million”, H. G. Wells envisaged humanity transformed into a race of grey-skinned beings, stunted and with big heads. -- the greys!!

So with that look so far we can see many of the elements of aliens and UFOs exist but there are no reports yet of flying saucers or any meaningful reports of flying triangles under intelligent control. All of it, when it comes to ETs, is human imagination. We can reasonably say no ETs are showing up in this 1700s-1800s time period.

In 1893 science starts to speculate about gravity and if we can understand it better and control it.

1893 - Oliver Heaviside makes paper called A GRAVITATIONAL AND ELECTROMAGNETIC ANALOGY http://sergf.ru/Heavisid.htm -- this will be very important as we continue the time lining.
1894 “Aug 26, British admiral reported sighting a large disk with a projection like a tail” – Keyhoe (1950) -- Airship? Science experiment? There are no good references for this report and so it can't be examined further.
1896 - Germany 11 Sep, Zagreb daily newspaper Obzor “The day before yesterday we received a telegram sent by an amateur journalist. He informed us that David Schwarz from Zagreb has invented an [aluminium] airship which he hopes he could direct on his own free will."
1896 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_airship -- this is the UFO flap of 1896-97 but they were airships, not disks, triangles or spacecraft. We know that airships won't work in space so these are human-made. This shows that human advanced tech can be a unsolved mystery. See pics #4 and #5

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the doc the one pic refers to is this one
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP79B00752A000300130001-1.pdf
so you dont have to type out the links

the new york times article is here
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D04EED81F3BE433A25757C1A9649D946593D6CF&legacy=true
for a few shekels you can read it, otherwise you can at least confirm the title
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the pic i meant refering to a cia doc was this one. somehow forgot to upload, my bad.
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>Correct. Many of the names you will see used are recycled from previous iterations of the facetious non-terrestrial stories. Aldebara was the code name for the research lab where the German Bell was created.

>German Bell

>"Shortly after the First World War a French scientist, Elie Cartan, has formulated a derivative of the General Relativity Theory, which is presently known as Einstein-Cartan* theory. It is a set of equations, in which, contrary to the Einstein's theory itself, apart from mass-induced gravity appeared also gravity with negative sign. Einstein's view was such, that mass was the only source of the curvature of timespace, which in turn generated gravity. Cartan has introduced other factors: the spinning of a mass and the spinning of fields (such as electromagnetic fields). In both cases a negative component was supposed to be produced." ... "Moreover, as soon as in the 1970’s experiments with gyros were carried out, which demonstrated that the antigravitational effect is in fact much larger – by several orders of magnitude, i.e. one would have to add several zeros to these calculations. -- http://igorwitkowski.com/The-German-approach-to-antigravity.pdf (2011)

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lie_Cartan

So this is the French-German connection. I had speculated that the Germans ended up taking over in the airship race because the French went in a new direction. Einstein-Cartan theory might be that direction. Add in some helium and you have a viable "anti-gravity" device. The modern version of Einstein-Cartan theory is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%E2%80%93Cartan%E2%80%93Evans_theory . And he has his own website at http://www.aias.us/

The scientifically acceptable version today is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism and traces back to:

1893
A GRAVITATIONAL AND ELECTROMAGNETIC ANALOGY -- http://www.univer.omsk.su/omsk/Sci/Heaviside/gravitation.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Heaviside.

1909 rigid airships should be constructed for the Royal Navy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Aviation#History

So people are thinking about artificial gravity and solid airships using lifting gas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duralumin has just become available. And "coinsidently" an airship wave begins again over England and elsewhere.

1912
>“The first concrete calculations of (linear) gravitomagnetic effects were performed by Einstein in 1912-1913.” – Gravitomagnetism: From Einstein’s 1912 Paper to the Satellites LAGEOS and Gravity Probe B by Herbert Pfister (~2006)

1912 Near Vancouver, BC, Canada:
>"A round craft "something like a helicopter", with a glass cab, landed on the farm of the father of 6-year-old Abram Penner. "One man felt my body; they admired my hands. They have different hands than we do; they have round feet, short
legs, no knees, no elbows. They operate on mind power: I understood what they said." His father told him never to tell anyone.

and also:

1913 Jul. Badlands area, Montana, USA
>J. L. Buick & another prospector were startled by a small brown man saying “Peace be with you, my friends.” Sitting on a patch of sand was a silvery round object nearly 100 ft in diameter, with central dome & a small conning tower; no wheels underneath. Around it were other, small men in brown picking flowers, pebbles, etc., and some mining a rock outcrop. The occupant told the witnesses they were from another planet which had secretly been keeping tabs on earth for over a hundred years; they had learned English via spies working in a U.S. circus. The craft rose silently & then took off. Next day it came back, & they were given a tour inside 5 concentric saucers with diminishing air pressures, the outermost being evacuated. As to lift, “gravity is only a different type of magnetism”, so it can be controlled by an electromagnetic drive: they can do 9000 mph, and have artificial gravity insiside the saucer. Rockets, they,were told, had tailed for space travel. – HUMCAT_Index_1910-1939 (CUFOS) ← Witness's letter of 9/24/56 to Donald Keyhoe.

http://cufos.org/HUMCAT/HUMCAT_Index_1910-1939.pdf

So in fact the Germans were late to the game possibly because of devotion to airships and burning airships. The concept that the information came from space aliens via telepathy is stupid when we know humans were already pondering this and acting upon it. The Die Glocke is a late stage experiment.

Pic#1 Source is unknown.

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>>32212
The one thing I will say for the Germans is I see no indications they were using lifting gases along with rotating fields. Maybe they did have a breakthrough.

>>31643
You never agreed or disagreed with helium gas and gas-discharge yellow glow. Yay/Nay?

>confirmed by a missed paper
CITATION NEEDED Gimmme!! Which paper? What year in bluebook?

One of the things I have pondered is, can you send light pulses which mimic the protocol of the eye talking to the brain to create illusions?

The blinking lights of UFOs, to me, was just to attract the victims attention so they stop driving and get out of the car, or to make them keep watching as the trap gets closer. I don't see how you can go from infrasound and LED strobes to electrical failure. To me this is the result of the strong EM fields used to lift the craft. Perhaps infrasound could have effects on battery or engine operation. Can you explain the process exactly?

The disorientation, and lets add in "doorway amnesia" (the victims often do not recall entering the craft), can be explained with either EM or sonic fields.

Genetics and diversions

>1970: we get "restriction enzymes" to cut and paste DNA
>1975: nuclear transfer between cells
>1975: Cattle Mutilations
>1977: Senate Hearing on MKULTRA This would force any continuation of human genetic experiments into high secrecy.
>1977: Mystery booms start: http://www.mysterybooms.com/history/
>1978: nuclear physicist and author Stanton T. Friedman interviewed Jesse Marcel re Roswell UFO Incident (nice timing!!)
>1979: Bennewitz became convinced he was intercepting electronic communications from alien spacecraft and installations outside of Albuquerque. By the 1980s he believed he had discovered an underground base near Dulce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz
>1979: Philip Schneider, an explosive engineer who worked for the U.S. government, with high-level security clearance, claimed that in 1979 he participated in the building of a “secret underground base,” in Dulce, New Mexico. It was here that a horrific battle played out leaving 60 humans dead and countless subterranean aliens fighting for their life. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/roadtrippers/that-time-subterranean-al_b_5182945.html and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9COrANDQvWg&feature=youtu.be&t=2430

Why is an "person in a rubber suit" if they are underground in a secure environment?

>1980: The first conspiracy book about Roswell UFO Incident was The Roswell Incident by Charles Berlitz (13 years US Army, mostly intelligence) and Bill Moore (1989 MUFON conference, Moore claimed: did “disinformation” against Bennewitz for AFOSI).
>1980: the first patented mammal, Oncomouse, - Chimeras, Hybrids and Interspecies Research Politics and Policymaking, Andrea L. Bonnicksen
>1980: Gene cloning paatent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History%20of%20genetics#The_genomics_era
>1980: Dec. “Rendlesham Forest U.K. Dec. 1980 Very well documented with weak government rebuttal; no crash, however.” – UFOs Crashes: An On-Going Problem by Keith Rowell MUFON (2010)
>1981 The EMBL Data Library is founded – the first central depository of nucleotide sequence (DNA) data in the world (precursor to EMBL-EBI).
>1982 “Humster” hamster/human hybrid announced - Chimeras, Hybrids & Interspecies Research Politics & Policymaking Andrea L. Bonnicksen
>1984 First mammal created by nuclear transfer: http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/cloning/clonezone/
>1984 MJ12 hoax
>1985 US black budget “Aurora” to get $80m in 1986 & $2.2b in 1987. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/aurora.htm
>1985 Contactee Whitley Strieber claims to be contacted by aliens including “greys” leading to 1987 book which standardised the “Grey” look.
>1987 Budd Hopkin's mentions “scoop marks” on abductees. Needs verification.
>1987 Contactee Whitley Strieber releases his book which standardises the Grey aliens. Later Strieber comes to realise he has been manipulated by military projects.

Are we having fun yet?


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>>31887

Thanks for the links and images. Some I had not seen before. I have traced the Nazi UFO related information back to a German occult group here >>20906
My examination of the story has found nothing problematic.


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Genetic modifications to avoid AIDS by "aliens"?

>"Of course, she's Byrd's," she responded, continuing the conversation as though I were not there, "Plus, I heard Houston say something about her being a Presidential Model, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean." "It means she's clean," Hillary said matter-of-factly as she stood up. I was not capable of giving thought to such things back then, but I am aware in retrospect that all Presidential Model slaves I knew seemed to have an immunity to social diseases. It was a well known fact in the circles I was sexually passed around in that government level mind-controlled sex slaves were "clean" to the degree that none of my abusers took precautions such as wearing condoms.
- Trace Formation of America by Cathie O'Brien

>Perhaps even more controversially, we also have findings of nuclear DNA suggestive of possible viral resistance to HIV-AIDS for example – referred to as the CCR5 deletion factor. The implications are startling because less than 1 % of the population has this deleted CCR5 factor, which makes the already unusual hair sample even more provocative. And the CCR5 mutation occurred only about 5,000 year ago, further adding to the intrigue. Still, I must note that the limited nuclear DNA results were insufficient to achieve a completely clear result on this matter.
- http://www.auforn.com/Bill_Chalker_35.htm
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Nice get.

Pics #1-3 I have seen something like them somewhere before some club in the USA was claimed to exist. No one knew how to interpret them. Source?

Pic #4 is very interesting! First obvious thing is the implications of the Bell taking advantage of superconductivity, that was the missing piece.

Liquid Helium Gel
Minus 200 Celsius (aka 73Kelvin) is not low enough but helium can reach -269C (4Kelvin) which is enough for Mercury superconductivity at 4.2Kelvin.

Mercury
The Serum is called Serum 525. Cinnebarstone is:

"Cinnabar and cinnabarite, likely deriving from the Ancient Greek: κιννάβαρι (kinnabari), refer to the common bright scarlet to brick-red form of mercury(II) sulfide, formula HgS, that is the most common source ore for refining elemental mercury, and is the historic source for the brilliant red or scarlet pigment termed vermilion and associated red mercury pigments." -- Wikipedia

Which coupled with the purple/crimson reminds one of the mythological red mercury.

The isotope 203Hg radioactively decays high energy electrons ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_mercury ) with a half life of 46.5 days and interestingly a nuclear spin of 5/2−. The other isotopes don't have a long enough half life or fast enough nuclear spin. They add additives to keep it from solidifying probably because they need it to swirl in a circular pattern while under magnetic field influence to align the nuclear spin axis in the direction of the swirl. This then causes the gravito-magnetic moment of each nuclei to be compounded with all of it's neighbours along the swirl, this rotation around in the horizontal plane (the swirl) converts the gravito-magnetic field into a gravito-electric field up through the centre of the swirling mercury, which is artificial gravity.

See picture. P is gravito-magnetic moment (in this case made by rotating 203Hg nuclei aligned along the rings circular axis) and G is the perpendicular artificial gravity that goes up through the centre. Atch #2 is the full paper.

The reason for the cooling is the remove thermal jitters from the atomic nuclei so they can all align in the same direction without jostling about.

Nice find, anon!! Source?


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>Atch #2 is the full paper.
is actually here already: >>18245

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Check out the colour of a mecury vapour lamp
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/d/db/Mercury_vapour_lamp.ogv/Mercury_vapour_lamp.ogv.240p.webm
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The atomic nuclei would produce there own magnetic field, because they are now not jittering about they are aligned magnetically they would produce a large macroscopic magnetic field. Through the middle of the ring a large electric field would also exist. This, and the gravito-electromagnetic field, would be powered by nuclear rotation. The nuclear rotation is powered by an imbalance in the collective rotations of the quarks that make up the neutron and protons of the mercury nuclei.

If you extract from these self generated fields then energy needs to be removed from those quarks but since those quarks aren't going to slow down, the speed is fixed, then the only place to extract energy from is their passage through time. Therefore in proximity to this device while extracting energy from it time distortions should occur.

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>>32212
Science shows what can be created with working models at the time is never improbable. By the way, any paper you see with Einstein on it after his dismissal from the Patent Office means he did nothing. That coattail rider paid large sums to be included on many projects so as to maintain his monopoly on patent sales to the US militaries. Magnetic field experiments have taken place since the Greeks, wanting to improve their steam technologies, found a method to safely refine beryllium. They loved bronze for many reasons. Ancient knowledge is never frustrating.

Obvious men using patents of the day to conceal their identities. Spice the tale up a bit and it becomes fantastic, easy to sell.

>>32215
I stated above what the most common colors were. Many of the historical sightings are indeed yellow and yellow-white. Definite yey.

Missed as in it was in a report not released with PBB books themselves. One colleague swore he had a copy but would not reveal it, instead stated the notes of what was on it besides sixty redactions. Afters are paranoid for excellent reasons.

What do you think the 1950's experiments with hologramming were intended to create? Imagine having the perfect mobile psychological warfare weapon capable of being used anywhere, anytime, featuring a large number of modes. Obviously it's at least a single "necessary" system for use now, though it is probably the size of an average briefcase now.

You've already answered your own question. Attract the victim(s), barrage them, keep them off balance, utilize the resources aboard the vessel. In fact, did you know that a neat experiment was performed last year involving a ductile magnetic field? Quite interesting. Except it's been in use since the 50's.

Bioethics, patent laws, transgenics. One tiny change, ten miscodings to solve. For every miscoding, another ten. A single positive and uncounted negatives. The very definition of insanity.

>>32861
Tumors were a well known and rigorously researched occurrence in the ancient world. Not a topic I know much on except that there are over 2,700 medical patents that will never be released to the public. Welcome to the rodeo.
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Time distortion in proximity to superconductor based UFOs?
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>>33125
>In fact, did you know that a neat experiment was performed last year involving a ductile magnetic field? Quite interesting. Except it's been in use since the 50's.

I am not finding much on ductile magnetic fields. I assume ductile superconductors probably aren't related as I expect they arent too ductile at supercooled temps:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.30.7409&rep=rep1&type=pdf

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203Hg does not occur naturally because of the 46.5 day half life. To make it you could bombard 202Hg with neutrons. This page has speculations on how the Nazi Bell was part of making an atom bomb:

https://sites.google.com/site/nazibelluncovered/

They speculate it used mercury. This process might have led to the lifting and time distortion affects which are rumoured. And it could have been narrowed down to the 203Hg.

The article claims this all begins with patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/GB440023A/en from March 1934.

In June 1934 Viktor Schauberger was invited by Hitler and the highest representatives of the Thule and Vril Societies and from then on worked with them according to Jan Van Helsig.

About Schauberger: http://schauberger.co.uk/

The flight of the RFZ 1 craft was also said to be in 1934. Its possible the attempt to make an atomic weapon lead to creating spacetime distortions and artificial gravity.

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Yes. The scientific phrase is temporal ductility, referring to the methods in which electromagnetic fields can be bent outside straight-line temporal reality. The "laws of physics" are not necessarily facts, they're more like extrapolated guidelines. Manhattan Project failed miserably for example. 200 dead, 100 missing, all for nothing. "Don't fuck with what you do not understand" is a law of it's own.

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Flexible coil pulsed electromagnetic field. Same idea, different terminology. Still, the rodeo continues.
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Always nice to see your posts :)

>Yes. The scientific phrase is temporal ductility, referring to the methods in which electromagnetic fields can be bent outside straight-line temporal reality. The "laws of physics" are not necessarily facts, they're more like extrapolated guidelines.

Tonnes of examples of people's watches and clocks being slow after UFO encounters.

>Manhattan Project failed miserably for example. 200 dead, 100 missing, all for nothing. "Don't fuck with what you do not understand" is a law of it's own.

I am curious as to why you include this in a spacetime distortion discussion. If the Germans discovered this spacetime distortion during the process of enrichment, then are you suggesting the MP also had spacetime distortion issues (along with radiations issues too I suppose)?

>Flexible coil pulsed electromagnetic field. Same idea, different terminology. Still, the rodeo continues.

There is no end to the spacetime fuckery you could do with both pulsing and flexible coils. That's mind boggling.

In my crude understanding of manipulating spacetime to generate gravity distortions the consequences are that the UFO occupants would see the outside world travelling in time faster than for the UFO occupant. Isn't this a tactical disadvantage? I assume then you would want to minimise usage of spacetime warping to the bare necessity? For example would the black triangles use ordinary thrusters and/or lifting gases to minimise the disadvantage?

Also our discussions regarding LGMs and EM fields reminds me of the VARO edition of M.K. Jessup's THE CASE FOR THE UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT (1955). The editor states:

>They mentioned the building of undersea cities and identified two groups of spacemen, “L-M’s” and “S-M’s”. The “L-M’s” were designated as peaceful, the “S-M’s” as sinister.

The commentators state:

>a circular pattern of Bar Magnets 342 of them, HAVE NO WEIGHT if they are attached to a common Sheet of Metal
>& are XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>In short, THEY FLOAT IN THE AIR, all 900 lbs of them. XXXXXXXXXXXXX
>(In center, I wish were one Drive-inductor. Boy! oh Boy!

Do you know about this book? Any comments? Attached.
I think I need to read it again in light of our chats.
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off-topic but who knows how to get into these hasbro servers? Some idiot posted a link to them and the password and username needed, instead of taking everything from the servers and rehosting it somewhere else.

https://pastebin.com/1TdM9ju9
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>>34798

Quote:
He took a sip from his drink and continued. "When the Americans
tripped over this mutant strain of nonlinear physics and took it back
home with them, they were astute enough to realize that their home-
grown scientific talent couldn't handle it. That it was beyond their
cultural terms of reference. That's why they recruited so many Germans.
The Nazis developed a unique approach to science and engineering quite
separate from the rest of the world, because their ideology, unrestrained
as it was, supported a wholly different way of doing things. Von Braun's
V-2s are a case in point, but so was their understanding of physics. The
trouble was, when the Americans took it all home with them they found
out, too late, that it came infected with a virus. You take the science on,
you take on aspects of the ideology, as well."

Source: The Hunt for Zero Point - Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology by Nick Cook (2001)
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“Importantly, the gravitic field that provides the basic propulsive force simultaneously reacts on all matter within that field's influence. The force is not a physical one acting initially at a specific point in the vehicle that needs then to be translated to all other parts. It is an electro-gravitic field acting on all parts simultaneously”. ← The Cosmic Conspiracy by Stan Deyo (1978) ← April of 1955 Scientific American: Professor John G. Trump (of M.I.T.'s electrical engineering department). Donald Trump's uncle.
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>>34952
Correct.

There are too many strange events directly associated with TMP to list, but I will go into the most important ones.
#1: the refining of nuclear materials at the Hanford Army Chemical Corps. site in Washington state coincided with a number of deaths attributed to the "discoveries" of transient radioactive iodine, cesium, iron, sodium, and cobalt. When workers attempted to clear the debris, without any protection no less, they found that several of the lab samples undergoing refinement had disappeared from their containers, ostensibly lead-crystal quartz tubes. What was strange? The next day, site managers discovered the materials still in their tubes.
#2: during the leadup to TMP, one of the secretly constructed nuclear material testing labs in North Carolina encountered the same, yet in their case an explosion occurred. The 1958 Army Chemical Engineer manual, now banned in the US with fewer than 200 copies remaining, went on to state that an unknown chain reaction between two volatile radioactive components occurred.
#3: in 1987, a former nuclear technician whom worked on the second TMP vessel in question was about to die from leukemia. He quoted, "the coils, both of them, were functioning at peak efficiency. We didn't see the intermediate reaction until (name) screamed, 'I'm blind, I'm blind, I can't see'. When I turned to look, the mounting had sheared off, both cylinders were on the deck plate. It was like melted diamond everywhere. When I saw the critical reaction of white and green I knew I had to run."

Not a tactical disadvantage when you can run sonar/radar/lidar equipment at the same time. You may feel as if you are moving in slow motion, yet it's simple to adjust. Ever heard of lentation? If not, it's a tricky subject. "Space" bends depending on the velocity of mass traveling through it: first imagine a wide sheet of rubber with a marble tossed into the middle, then picture another at the same negative aspect occurring. Compressing enough lifting gases to compensate for, say, a craft weighing more than 10 tons would require extreme measures, so it's more than likely that has been abandoned since the 1953 flights.

L-M: large men. S-M: small men. More simple bullshit.

Heard of it, not read it, will go through.

>>35905
That ideology is finicky. Difficult to explain. When one accepts that nothing is out as the universe is truly dead, this leaves humanity in a precarious state. There are no any potential "saviors", Herr Vril. Whatever beings DID exist before us are long gone. Upon reading, the mind is buried in equations that alarm even the most hardcore bluepilled idiot: we have one world, should we lose it, no more "us".
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>>40427
>1958 Army Chemical Engineer manual, now banned in the US with fewer than 200 copies remaining
I'd love to get that on .pdf. Sounds like a more professional A's CB.
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>>40427

Always nice when you post. Thank you.

Thanks for the info on TMP.

My assumption has been that the pilots perception would operate as normal in the craft but the view outside at distance would move faster than normal. Therefore the pilots reactions would be too slow to external events. But my assumptions on which way the distortions occur could be wrong. The watches being slow implies to me that time within the field travels slower. But then the field outside of the ring would be operating opposite to inside the ring. So I am confused on the details.

Chambers which are "filled" with vacuums would be more efficient than lifting gas.

A relook at the VARO book still has a strong emphasis on aliens so it seems to be a psyop.

The Nazi ideology making it into the C1^ can explain much of the degradation of the C1^ and the deep state that followed. Along with Communinism paranoia.

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Mass and space-time distortions are very interesting and proven. The Einstein-Cartan effect I think is very relevant. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%E2%80%93Cartan_theory ). And the Einstein-Cartan-Evans idea that EM fields are twists in spacetime works out well if we add in one new factor. What if the movement of electrons in a wire causes rotations of the atomic nuclei. The nuclei are in a friction free environment. This very dense mass twisting would do the Evans claim of twisting spacetime due to mass density and be the cause of EM signals/propogation. This would combine gravity (GEM) and EM into one theory.

I have read two books recently which are very close to my hypothesis on UFO/"aliens" and I think close to yours. So I will attach them. The smaller Martin Cannon one is a very succinct quick read and shows that human hoax suspicions are rising and correlations with MK are high.

Lastly the Pentagon and the CIA have been titillating the public with flying saucer media. This raises the concern that a new con on the public is in the making.

Former Pentagon UFO official: 'We may not be alone'
http://archive.is/sJh2H - CNN

CIA Teases with Tweet of UFO Photo
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/01/cia-teases-with-tweet-of-ufo-photo/
https://twitter.com/cia/status/946460240370843648

This mind fuckery needs to stop.
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>>33112

Regarding the Xerum 525. Lots of sources state it was mercury antimony oxide.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-xerum-525

Which is Hg2Sb2O7. The interesting part here is both Hg and Sb have stable rotating nuclei and high atomic mass. The O7 reminds me of the acknowledged high temperature superconductors like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_superconductivity#YBaCuO_superconductors (YBa2Cu3O7−x</sub>) which Podkletnov claims can produce mass loss above a ring of it under certain conditions. This later needs to be cooled to 77K aka -196C. And interestingly the claimed Nazi document states cooling Hg2Sb2O7 to -200C. Which now means this document might be accurate. It also implies the Nazis had a high temperature superconductor around 1934, about 50 years before the West, amazing. And the inspiration may have been https://patents.google.com/patent/GB440023A/en
No wonder they needed to import Nazis.
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>>40428
Know what's great about apocryphal or banned sources, especially in the US military? "Officially they don't exist, so stop asking questions, or we'll make you stop asking question." Some of my colleagues were stopped. One in his driveway with wife watching. Random gang drive by was the cover, but she had security camera footage. Got a big bribe for that one and "orders" to keep her mouth shut. She disappeared two years later. Now she doesn't exist in any records.

>>40429
Again, hard to explain "how" the process even works. At once the operators would be moving partially out of phase with realtime, yet still acting inside the phase, but are able to interact at near-nominal speeds due to onboard instruments.

VARO and Project Blue Book are the poster children for how to effectively whitewash events. Most of the "aliens are from outer space!" books are authored or co-written by propagandists that know the party lines and have some grasp of creating culture shock to make waves, at least for a time.

Please do not make that mistake again It was only Cartan. The hack Einstein attempted to buy his way onto Cartan's coattail, and when Cartan refused, Einstein threatened to use his friends in the US Navy. Cartan had little choice but to buckle.

Martin Cannon reminds me of something, can't remember what right now. Will search for it later.

Slow progress is being made by Afters. Not cheap. Too many lives lost.

>>40431
Xerum 525 is a code word of it's own. In short it means "serum (liquid), five-hundred twenty-fifth experiment". The X is short for "toXic" as well. 525 also refers to the applique bending it causes to realspace: precisely 5.25 gravities. Vril Societe` had hundreds of geniuses among it's ranks. Their losses are still painful to this day.

The French intelligensia, most of whom were still friends with the Vril Societe`, were either found mysteriously dead thanks to covert britcuck assassinations in WW2, or had been "removed into secure custody", mostly to MI5/6. Whereabouts before 1948 unknown, after that most were forced into research slavery like the nearly 14,000 Germans transferred as POW's into the US after Operations Paperclip, Factory Shortage, and Highway Construction. Worked to death while drugged incessantly with sodium fluoride to keep them docile and who knows what the fuck else. Awful way to die. Once Americunts had become the new bulldog the elites needed to keep their technological advances high while nicking the best pieces for themselves. Ever heard of a hyper-conductive pulsed refraction coil? If not, it's an interesting bit of tech that was used in the search for Saddam before a certain traitorous piece of camel shit was brought in to find him. May have killed the users, but who cares when there's a few billion useful idiots to spare. Was a poor copy of a certain device you linked before; mass produced trash that someone may have figured out the kinks out to now. Probably in limited use.
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>>40926

It's getting interesting now to read books with "aliens" as the explanation but knowing they aren't. Other information is still in the story and can be traced to human tech.

I use [Censored]-Cartan because it is a common label rather than accurate. :)

Thanks for the Xerum info. There is a very interesting chapter (35) in "Stevens hitler's suppressed and still secret weapons, science and technology (2007)" at https://issuu.com/mach4c/docs/stevens_-_hitler_s_suppressed_and_s go to page 258 at the link.

Basically one of Stevens' friends, knew a Paper Clip pilot/scientist who mentioned briefly working on time experiments in 1939. (It seems the initial discovery occurred in 1934). And the result was one could see back in time and not forward.

>hyper-conductive pulsed refraction coil

You make me laugh. So a superconductor? Which when ramping up and spinning down has gravity effects (Podkletnov).. but the refraction part is interesting. Is this related to "Radiatively-induced Fermion Resonance (RFR)"? It seems pulsed and/or circular polarised light now can be used to make superconductivity. Not surprising really because everything is just eddies and flows of space-time/quantum flux.

This also reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Prato where: "In 1977, numerous UFOs were reported in the Brazilian city of Colares, Pará. UFOlogists claimed that lights in the sky fired beams at people,[4][6] supposedly causing injuries and sucking blood from 400 individuals.[3] Local residents claimed that scars on their bodies were caused by the lights in the sky, and named the lights "Chupa Chupa"[3]"

Using all these effects as a mini tractor beam? ... on people!

It's a shame we don't get to play with the cool toys in beneficial ways.

And for amusement:
"Famous African Elder Recalls Extraterrestrial Abduction"
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v9maf5xb3wkx9ls/81H.pdf?dl=0
The robot was a nice touch.
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>>40956
Isn't it amazing how simple humans can be deluded into passing off known human technologies for the "fantastic" explanations? This is yet another reason why the global elites and their lapdogs laugh at all the sheep in the world.

Temporal causality is unwritten. Events that did occur in the past can be traced backwards via geomagnetic isolation. Remember infrasound? Fun fact: most cave systems contain large amounts of water, quartz, and iron. Those were the first essential components to create a battery. Many cave systems in the world also contain those three.

No, not a superconductor. HCPRC's are self-generating systems that, once started, power themselves until manually shut down. There is some relation to RFR in that HCPRC's are used to isolate fermions, quarks, and k-pions, as well as other temporally anomalous particles. Bucky-balls were long held to be the standard of time travellers; as it turns out bucky-balls can only be bounced ONCE before losing their rotation and thus decaying.

The Chupacabra legend began evolving after 1977. Before that time there were zero incidences. Idiotic, superstitious morons led on by lazily placed scare articles in shit news rags.

I have finally acquired a dead drop link that should work.
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Yet again, kitty tells me to intentionally shitpost. I have refused. The third line is as continues:
Many cave systems in the world also contain those three necessities in such amounts that events up to 5,000 years ago have been recorded in the local geomagnetic strata. Not only are they isolated so there is no information degradation, there is essentially infinite power in the form of world wide geomagnetic activity to perpetuate said storage. Nature contains greater wonders than the zealous deluded insanities composed by humans.
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>>41138

It is a sad situation. ( >>>/mlpol/101585 → >>41383 → ) Education needs to be a lot better, but why would the elite want that, who educates farm animals?

>Temporal causality is unwritten.

It took me a long while to think about what you meant by this and I eventually settled on "Linear cause-leads-to-effect in the time direction is not written in stone". Assume this means you can go back and change events? This reminds me of the double slit experiments ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc [Embed] ), but one of them was done with the slits in the time dimension not space ( I don't recall the reference location :( ). They open and closed a gate twice to do this. The result was a interference pattern across time. Which shows cause and affect can go backwards in time, if we aren't looking-at/measuring it.

The rest of your paragraph says that past information is stored in magnetic fields. A lot of things offshoot from here such as; ghosts can be past recordings, consciousness can continue excarnate, magnetic connections between space objects like planets and stars can be traversed by excarnates, some effects like seances or Hutchinson Effect can be partly conscious, then there are the quartz stone circles like Stonehenge, ley-lines, "Vril", Remote Viewing etc., etc.

Also Michael Persinger (who it seems got involved with RV/C1^) has indicated that the Earth magnetic field can hold a very significant amount of information ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6VPpDublg [Embed] ). Since our brains are electric, and if information is stored in the mag field, we might be able to access it consciously. And Ian Stevenson's work ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stevenson#Reception ) suggests consciousness survives death.

>hyper-conductive pulsed refraction coil

Link? So more than superconductive? To me it's all about the quarks. I see them as 4D whirlpools that eat spacetime/flux. This means that the 3D "surface" of the universe is draining away into the time dimension, through these whirlpools, causing times arrow. If you rob the quarks of energy it slows their passage through time. If so we can endless draw energy from the "fall" of the universe through time.

Tangentially related. Trump probably knows about the tech both due to being Pres. and because of his Uncle and Tesla association. Q Anon has implied UFOs are a distraction and has also stated that after the swamp is drained there will be a revelation. Hoping it is a tech upgrade for us sheep. :)

>zealous deluded insanities composed by humans.
"Computer, Exit!"

>I have finally acquired a dead drop link that should work.
Oh? So I'll have my bluff called soon?? I'll need to organise my info!
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Crafted parasitic-paranoid delusions of the fantastic arch-mythos variety are eminently more "interesting", and safer, than the often mundane yet horrifying truths. Humanity willingly jumps into pits they never think to escape from, ie: tradition. They're mocked for being unable to escape since they have been indoctrinated. Those that break the doctrine to search elsewhere are derided by the masses for not being in line. That is perhaps the largest cause of our ever present depression/anger.

Essentially that's correct until reaching problem: temporal divergence. Alter a prior event and new reality is created. Go back and become your own ancestor? Become erased in the future-past timeline. Go back and prevent Hitler from being sabotaged? Congratulations on diverging timelines into a world where causality is now disrupted and you are the past-future from another temporal reality. The problems are infinite. The solutions? There are none. Tamper with the unknown that is known, and create the impossible scenario. Or a death spiral.

Correct. Geisting is a known phenomenon, has similar relations. Reincarnation is not as well studied as it should be. All is magnetic, and all that is magnetic, is data. Unfortunately, Stonehenge was rebuilt by an idiot making it into a tourist attraction, and also destroyed the relics dug up. Fortunately, there are several thousand henges built across the world that are virtually untouched. I mentioned incidents over there. One day I will attempt to explain. Probably fail, but the try will be amusing.

Consciousness can be compared to a carving: make one pass of a blade on soft stone, it will last a year perhaps two years if conditions are right. Make two passes on granite, will take a ten years to wear off, twenty if sheltered. Consider a highly active mind at the age of 50 something like several hundred passes on marble, it makes an impression in the surface, that is the geomagnetic strata, that does not fade in time.

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4749346/
Similar application of the technology, most are top secret, or above top secret. "Not for you, peasant". Fuck them. Cold forming superconductors allows them to be manufactured uniformally, far less chance of fatal or severe flaws. You know that most metals cannot be cold formed due to molecular alignment, so, since crystalline materials often do not align properly without significant pressure, usually atmospheric in nature, instead gravitic pressure is used which creates hyper-conductive materials. Invert gravity onto a precise location undergoing cold forming and you'd triple the functional technological reach. Forget pulsed magnetic engines, this is superluminal territory. The understanding of that technology is.. poor at the moment, but it is a work in progress.

3D understanding only accounts for acceleration, deceleration, gravity, cause-effect, radioactive, etc. etc. etc. All the basic bitch words. 4D goes.. weird places, Herr Vril. Instead of affecting molecules, the surface of 4D is, at the same time, physical, nonphysical, magnetic, non-magnetic, anti-physical, and anti-magnetic. Examples: dark matter and matter coexisting in the same space/spectrum with no interaction; di-polar magnetic bands being severed by physical mass. This gets worse. In 4D, a gluon would interrupt the accretion phase of a k-meson particle by reversing it's acceleration, but NOT causing a deceleration at the same time, effectively creating instant transmission without negative effects. This makes no sense to most of science which relies upon form-follows-function. "The mutant strain of nonlinear physics", indeed.

Not likely, he does. Visit with the chinks reveals two things: one, Trump has acknowledged that the party of anti-Spartans wants to set back the world by at least 3 technological generations. That is unacceptable to the rational man. Look at the pushback against, oh say, hemp, there are many lists of whom will die for banning, criminalizing, and outright deny research on it. 100 years of misery is enough. Two, Trump is playing danger close, many of his allies are his enemies, and many of his enemies are friendly to each other. He cannot afford a single setback at this stage. As the Q situation stands, he's a grand LARPer repeating current information. His ID'ing is, at best, spotty guesswork, and at worst a callout to get shit done. Definite WH communications. It's become more likely he's one of the deep state warlocks seeking (silent fame) rather than the unwanted fame that people like the man whom lived in a den received. By the way, the term warlock is used in the US government to mean "oppressor OR liar OR instigator", whereas the archaic meaning was curse-breaker, or oath-breaker if you prefer the pedantic term.

Be prepared.
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>>41528
>Crafted parasitic-paranoid delusions of the fantastic arch-mythos variety are eminently more "interesting", and safer, than the often mundane yet horrifying truths.

That's a lot of buzz words which I understood immediately, which is amusing. Mind viruses! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viruses_of_the_Mind Save me from the mind viruses!! I am going to have to post Nightmare Rarity picture again now!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geist Interesting.
>One day I will attempt to explain
Yay.

The paper was interesting but somewhat conventional, also they realise metal affects magnetic fields!! OMG :) However it did help me think about something important I'll mention further on.

>Cold forming superconductors allows them to be manufactured uniformally, far less chance of fatal or severe flaws.

Of course! The bane of superconductivity is thermal jitter. We are building a type of atomic/molecular machine. Moulding metal while hot is the antithesis of molecular engineering.

>gravitic pressure is used which creates hyper-conductive materials

Beautiful!

>this is superluminal territory

Why superluminal? I have some ideas which I'll get to in the aforementioned "further on".

>..surface of 4D is..

Head explodes. I had been fond of the Electric Universe idea that dark energy etc was EM in nature and science was too focused only on gravity. But when you also add in Gavito-EM and the fact that space is superconductor/Bose–[Censored] condensate temperatures, we should see non-Gravity effects. WHilst I am here I quite like the idea that the universe is rotation leading to the impression of the universe accelerating/expanding because the outer part of the universe is forced to travel slower in time, relative to us, which causes a red shift in light. But I digress! How fun that science can be so confusing!!

One thing I have realised recently about working out who is the good guy and bad guy is it is relative to which (layer of) conspiracy you are on. The interpretation of an action depends on which of multiple outcomes you are prioritising as the most important impact. And each person has different priorities and even different belief systems. I seriously doubt any human actually operates in objective reality and instead looks through endless lenses of distortion and belief. Under such circumstances there is no objective observation reachable and therefore no solution to debates. Everyone is deluded! In fact culture is the collection of delusions. Computer, Exit!

"further on"

After reading the paper you mentioned was re-examining my hypothesis on Cartan spinning nuclei = Gravito-electric field. In that process I discovered a serious flaw. I had been assuming that nuclei forced together (cold/pressure) would all align the same way. This isn't true. A rotating nuclei is an electromagnet and if you bring two magnets together they don't aling the same, the align opposite because North as attracted to South. This trashed my previous hypothesis. And so a new one was put together today with very interesting consequences.

To visualise the alignment of compacted nuclei I visualise what happens if I bring three or four bar magnets together. The arrangement they would make would be a train of North-South pole connections making a ring.

The consequence of this is a atomic device that generates a electric field through the centre of the ring. More interestingly, because of the Cartan effect, it makes a Gravito-Electric field through the centre. So we end up with a segment of a Gravito-"railgun" a few atoms in size. Line up a few of these and you have potentially a incredibly long incredible thin electron gun. The electrons being light are blasted through these things. Consequences would be (perhaps):

* Thrust causing the SC disk to rotate.
* Electrical resistance fall and perhaps what you have called hyper-conductivity or negative resistance. Which would be "free energy".
* Internal macroscopic magnetic field leading perhaps to the seen expulsion of external magnetic fields.
* Increased radiation from high speed electrons (gamma rays?) and perhaps radioactivity from nucleus impacts. Part of the Die Glocke effects?

The new macroscopic effect is now the generation of a magnetic and gavito-magnetic field through the centre of a SC ring (whereas before I was thinking E and G-E). Which means you would need multiple SC rings, to make a "anti-gravity" device, positioned vertically into a horizontal ring arrangement -or- a circular arrangement of superconductor coil. Which if flexible becomes interesting.

I need a lab, a few trillion dollars and a supercomputer, stat!

And since I like adding a little something at the end have a 1988 AF study on how to couple EM to G. Section 3.6 interested me. I am sure this has no relationship to the 1988/9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_UFO_wave


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Yet now you know the essence of a buzz word, a sound byte, a sight byte, or a pundit opinion is that of a MEME, Herr Vril. What do religion, slavery, and neo-cultures have in common? All three use varying forms of memetics to create "believers", thus making "inoculations" against relevant anti-memes and curative memes. Biologically speaking, parasites are ignored or seen as benign until they reach critical mass. How do they differ? When a religion reaches critical mass, the true nature of it is always revealed in the form of a murder-cult bent on destroying their host, wiping out their host's knowledge, and fulfilling their artificial meme. Slavery memes subject the human mind to submission. Why does this not work well? Humans are not technically an animal, they are not evolved from monkeys, nor do they have much in common with the natural philosophy of this world. Here is your painful truth for the day: humans do not have a submission mechanism, whether physical, mental, or spiritual. The world has been burned many times yet still the useful, zealous idiots deem themselves "free" as they are burning down libraries, destroying the heritages of their brothers and sisters in a state of ordered anarchy.

Take an iron spring and a bronze sphere. First, weigh both individually. Second, place the bronze sphere on the iron spring, and weigh them. It's an old experiment, one that scared the cathocucks in the 1300's, particularly one Heinrich Kramer. In case you do not know that name, he's who backstabbing kike-lover that wrote "Malleus Malificarum", which led to 700 years of witch burnings and further technological decline. The Egyptians used hot air balloons, for example. "No, my dear. Logic holds that the evidence of absence is, to the contrary of your overly religious brethren, the absence of evidence."

Take any flashlight and measure how quickly the photons travel. A luminal flashlight transmits photons at the same speed of light. Superluminal reaches into 4D, bypassing the velocity-mass death quotient entirely. Why travel slower than light?

Only a few Afters cling to their archaic, delusional beliefs. They may be useful, yet they are rightfully shunned. Most would rather prefer to see Chaos Continuity occur rather than a purposeful "alien visitation reset of humanity". Fire does not simply sterilize, it also cleanses. That, by the way, is a motto of the ancient Priestesses of Nursia. Stolen by the deluded fanatics of the fairy tales, sure, yet it has eminent meaning in this age.

Human progress is more mundane than it is extra-terrestrial. Consider a craft that weighs perhaps 250 tons, does not need to land except to take on provisions, cannot be tracked on radar unless the crew wishes it, and has the ability to shut down an entire country in a few moments. That is not fantasy, Herr Vril.
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Quite scary. And the most successful meme passes on virus like. Our lack of submission then leads to a lack of stable hierarchy. But life is based on hierarchy, the battle then is an attempt to hierachise us which always fails. So we can't make a grander functional living unit made up of human-units. Unless we mind-control them. The continual fighting is a sign of an unstable platform, the independent human itself. Because humans are so unstable the military should go to space and leave the free human on its containment planet. How do I get to leave?

>Take an iron spring and a bronze sphere.
I found nothing on the internet about this. Do you have a reference, especially the historical one? Or do I have to go buy those things? Assuming the experiment shows the mass is different I would wonder if the spring still compressing over time would give the impression of more weight. Maybe you should elaborate?

>The Egyptians used hot air balloons, for example.
Hardly surprising, light a fire see that hot air rises.
Evidence?

Is this particular 4th dimension time? Also how many dimensions are there? Are the different particles one meta-particle with different sides poking into 3d?

>Human progress is more mundane than it is extra-terrestrial.
This statement is a little vague, did you mean: "Human progress is more mundane than extra-terrestrial fantasies."?

250 ton, black triangular, speed of light breaking, multiple dimensional travel, spacecraft from America are real? Can I see? How much is a ticket?

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You didn't comment on my re-imagining of superconductor artificial gravity. I have been working on falsifying my layman's hypothesis. I first started wondering if the molecular "railgun" segments would actually happen. I quickly learned that superconductors are crystalline which supported my idea. This now makes me wonder a few things;

* Under sufficient pressure/coldness nearly anything could superconduct.
* A superconductor would not just have zero resistance it could be less or more. Negative resistance might be called hyper-conductive. It is also extraction of energy ultimately from quarks.

One of the Hutchinson Effects is a blob of metal which always gives out a voltage.

A possible flaw was, I am proposing you need to make a series of vertical/coil superconductor rings to make a viable gravito-engine. So how did Podkletnov do it with a horizontal ring?

>Samples placed over the rotating disk demonstrated a weight loss of 0.3-0.5%. When the rotation speed was slowly reduced by changing the current in the solenoids, the shielding effect became considerably higher and reached 1.9-2.1% at maximum.
-- Weak gravitation shielding properties of composite bulk YBa2Cu3O7−x superconductor below 70 K under e.m. field. by E.E. Podkletnov

Angular deceleration of the disk does something. It seemed like something was rotating the vertical GM field and exposing some of the horizontal GE field to the vertical. Then I realised the fields don't propagate immediately (Newton you are wrong) and the vertical GM field bends away slightly from the vertical during acceleration and deceleration exposing the GE. Also the GM field is flaring out as it goes up, also exposing some of the GE to the vertical.

Podkletnov uses the term "gravity shield" because the science priest class and gate keepers of knowledge might get upset if he claims he made artificial gravity. But we can test the my hypothesis verses "gravity shield" by redoing the test with the mass suspended under the superconductor ring. If it's a shield no weight change, if it is a gravity generator then I predict the suspended mass will gain weight.

You have to comment on my crazy hypothesis this time :P

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Absolute fact: humans are tribal, grouping themselves with similar looking people. When the tribe becomes too large, it splits off and wanders, taking in others from surrounding tribes with it. Any other form of culture is doomed to fail, from start to finish. One need not look farther than the Dark Ages to know that much.

It's a Newton era experiment, read it once, haven't thought of much. The basis is this: all objects on this planet must emit a certain amount of anti-gravitational force in the form of an electromagnetic field, or else they're an unmoving rock. The amount of combined mass was, roughly, <0.5% less. The same is demonstrated by living beings, most of which are capable of adapting to the varying gravity regions of this world, after a period of adjustment of course. Electromagnetics were studied more in the past than now. That loss is equally as painful, yet the neo-modern "scientific community" doesn't give a fuck about the experiments of their predecessors. Tribalism strikes again and again..

The Nazcans utilized hot air balloons with local materials in order to create their iconography, imprint their heraldry, and create highly advanced maps, including star charts, weather forecasts, and a number of other interesting things that are far less discernible. Even in the Late Egyptian Kingdom decline, there was still easy access to linen, paper, salt, and resins of many types. There are any number of methods to lift a balloon, one being combustible gases, though that's expensive. One of the more intriguing bits of information comes the Temple of Hathor in Dendera: a series of carvings of what appear to be a hot air balloon laid out, then showing it's construction, and finally the testing phase. Paper lanterns can float nearly a mile with a small candle, that alone is an innovation from about 5,000 years ago.

The number is unknown, though rises into the hundreds if one considers spectrums instead of physical dimensions. I don't know enough of the particulars to state what matter/data flows between dimensions. The math is virtually impossible for me to comprehend.

What inventions you and I see as a fantastic leap of technology will, to the next generation, never be thought of other than as a footnote throughout their entire lives. Example: 60 years ago the concept of magnetic imaging was poised to entirely do away with x-rays, not only being safer and more accurate, it was to be less expensive. Then corporate interests and lawsuits occurred which would eventually force an illegal mandate that magnetic imaging technology was to be more expensive than the only other alternative. Hierarchies are meant to be destroyed just as rules are meant to be broken. In the interest of time however, your statement is a highly logical declaration. I suggest making that one of your own memes.

They're seen all the time, Herr Vril, though most are vastly smaller. In order to get a ticket, you would have to swear multiple oaths against humanity and to serve the World Monarchy's interests. That is of course assuming you pass the random "loyalty tests" and survive who knows what to gain enough favor for one.

Science wasn't much a subject of interest, far too much reading and too little down time to do it. The concept could be logical, but I do not know enough to state in favor of, or against.
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In the background Qanon led research is continuing. Here is there position on ETs. Afternon, the tide might be turning.
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>>44856

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Quote:

The strategy that Werner Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are
going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the
identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were told that
they were coming to get us and control us - that they were "Commies."
Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a
lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies."
We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy
against whom we would build space-based weapons.
The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first
time he said it. Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based
weapons.
And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That
would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I
knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. "And
remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build
space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie."

Donna Hare (NASA employee) in Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History by Steven Greer (2001).

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Clinton campaign chair: 'The American people can handle the truth' on UFOs
https://archive.fo/lVV5M - CNN
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There is a video game series called Ace Combat out of Japan. In it is a monolithic weapons system named "Stonehenge" that was built to defend the world against a jewish-like apocalyptic swarm of asteroids, meteors, and comets. It was well known in universe, however in addition to "Stonehenge" was an incredibly number of mass driver satellites that were to be used as the first line of defense. After a war in which a certain country nuked itself to cease a land invasion, a group called the "Gray Men" seized control of several satellites and orchestrated a takeover of the "Stonehenge" system itself in order to further their own goals. Injecting more liquid fuel into fire, the "Gray Men" come from a country which is directly equivalent to Pissrael.

Q is the most wannabe epic LARPer of this millenia, Vril. What has been purposefully darkened behind the mirror is only an imposition of ONE'S perception onto those they can control: the peons, the peasants, the useful idiots, the cucked zealots. Both sides know all of which and what has been occurring. Both sides are afraid of losing. Neither side can be fully trusted. Instead of excising all cancer, whichever side "wins" will only remove the largest problems and allow the remainder to serve their interests. Weiner and Bush are created from the same circumstances, except one realizes his mortality.
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The most useful idiots are those whom have been subverted to a "cause" in which they are told to be angry, told they should do something against, told that their "true enemy" is out there, yet they do nothing. Case in point: the whole cucked notion of christianity.

"They hold great flames in their eyes, they shout angrily day upon day demanding for justice to be done. We laugh at them from our tables knowing they will do nothing, but in secret we frown. We cannot quell the jews without the same be done to the entire christian cult: burning it to nothing by the roots."
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>>46251
>Case in point: the whole cucked notion of christianity.
(((you))) don't belong here.
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>>46284
The masses of eminently spiteful, useful idiots known as christcucks are the first line of defense for the World Monarchy. Do you even know what doublethink is, shill? It means playing one side against the other.
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>>46317
you're just projecting you idiot, the world monarchy is openly against Christianity. You're the useful idiot doing their bidding, you're the one being played against the followers of God. It's easy for me to know what double think is because it's a perfect description of your behavior given the facts of the matter.
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>>32215
I have an answer for a question posed in this post, Herr Vril. The first number of "cattle mutilations" were in response to an early spread of Mad Cow Disease, which is correctly known as BSE, bovine spongiform encephalopathy. The "disease" itself is caused by a prion, which as you should currently know is formed by a series of misfolded proteins that enter the nervous system and remain there. In all cases, the following occurs: eyes, ears, brain, upper spine & spinal cord are removed. As well, nearly all incidents of "mutilation" come with severe traumatic shock to the rear legs and spine. Now, the simple question is: why does this tie in? The US Chemical Engineering Corps. knew what the concept of a prion was since the late 40's, most of it based on research the Germans were pursuing in an attempt to understand cancer and how to cure it. The harder question is: what was causing these "mutilations" in the first place? Simple answer: stealth helicopters. Did you know that when a UH-1 helicopter is oriented to face the ground at a 20-25 degree angle, the noise of rotors is virtually impossible to hear unless you are directly underneath and behind it? The same idea went on to perfect the OH-58X and UH-60X helicopters to create untraceable vessels for quick, rapid deployment overland helos. Now all that's needed is a veterinarian using a quick-acting tranquilizer rifle, a few pieces of medical technology, and enough room to perform surgery. After that, the cow is shoved out of the helicopter to die, sow a few stories of "aliens abducting cows!" to the useful idiots, and continue checking on random bovine populations to cover one's tracks after having intentionally released cultural prions into the world's food supply. Quite sinister, really.
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>>46334
You project your own zealous, naive innocence strawman argument by being offended at a logical circumstance which does not cater to your preconceived notions caused by religious indoctrination. You project your own stupidity by claiming the legitimacy of an ambiguous jewish apocalyptic murder-cult nonsense dreamed up by madmen of the course of nearly 2,000 years of human insanity. You cannot think on your own for you are conditioned to defend the same jew-descended religions that report directly back to the jewISH parasites themselves in the Vatican. When strife occurs you flee from all adversity into the waiting arms of a rabbi wearing a black robe with a white collar, begging to be given orders. You want to hear the carols of "onward christcuck soldier!" so that you may die to hopefully fulfill some validating purpose in your otherwise existential life. You decry common humanity as "unwashed", "barbaric", "primitive", yet the whole of judeo-christianity professes an encompassing love for ritual murder, ritual abuse, ritual idolism, ritual fervor that passes beyond human decency into another world, the same world spoken of in the talmud, the torah, the jewishized kabbalah. You whine about the jewISH parasites, yet your book, your beliefs, your bishops have incapacitated you to the concept of free will. You willingly refuse to take the life of a parasite. You are GOYIM, human cattle willfully owned by the obfuscation of the jewISH world monarchy. That makes you a second-class slave. Continue flaunting your so-called "religious freedom" for nothing gained, your existence only serves to enrich the world monarchy, cuck. You are the sacrificial sheep first on the jewish pole, and you continue to project your pride at being just that.
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>>46351
I know you're the same anti-Chistian shill that keeps turning up on this site, I've before provided you with proof that the zionists hate Christians and the talmud is openly anti-Christian, as well as the fact that Jesus, Popes, and several canonized Saints were openly against jews. Looking at the facts it should be obvious who is the shill and who is the useful idiot. The reason you resist the facts of the matter to shout strawmans and other fallacies despite the reality that stares you in the faces could be one of two things; you're a dishonest jewish shill, or the zogbot brainwashing you received was just that thorough.
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>>46357
You know nothing, tool. I do not post at logic-failed cucks whom defend jewISH parasites. "The one that first speaks loudest is the last idiot in the room." You throw yet another strawman out in the vain-glorious hope of acquiring a reputation for audience, the favored ShareBlue/CAP tactic since 2003's ONI/La Sia/Mossad merger. You show no proof of any claims made, instead resorting to spouting self-serving ideological venom and "gotcha" images that serve no purpose other than to define an ignorant, arrogant, self-righteous purpose. Willing pawns of the world monarchy such as yourself are the only ones that spew zealous, anti-humanist drivel spawned from jewISH doublethink, the act of working for a jewISH master against your own kind for the sake of sanctity. You claim to be against the jewISH parasites, yet you fully believe the insanity spawned by jewISH apocalypse cultism which was later given psuedo-credence by yet another arm of jewISH parasitism, rife with blood-sacrifice, murder, double standards, and animal-like submission to so-called "divine authority". Your cucked "mother-church" is owned, run, and managed by the jewISH parasites hoarding the world's gold whom you dare not even face. You right now defend the world monarchy by attempting to defend an inherently manipulative religion based on infiltration. This irony is not even laughable.
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>"The one that first speaks loudest is the last idiot in the room."
you were the one that first started screaming about "christcucks" shill
>You throw yet another strawman out
all you do is use strawmen and other fallacies, you're just projecting literally the rest of your post is nothing but strawmen and other fallacies
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It is a basic fundamental of life that order tends to evolve from chaos. Atoms to molecules to cells to creatures to self-awareness. >>46351 pic #1 is a continuation of this evolution into a larger structure. The process subjugates its own components, us.

Fighting between 2 subjugated parties isn't going to end that process and probably helps it, as it wastes our energy. Those who try to control us try to divide us. Both of you have the same enemy but you know it by different names and see it through different life experiences. Both of you are coping with the fucked up planet as best you can with the tools you have. Both of you are flawed like everyone else, pointing this out is not helping. Arguing about beliefs goes no where, in fact this is what turns /leftypol/ to shit. Lets not bring that here, okay? Nothing is purely good or purely evil, that is just bait. Both of you have important things to offer and equally can fall into temptation, anger and other unuseful behaviour. If you must do it, do it in a thread dedicated to it, not mine.

Friendship is Magic, especially when it is hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHy0xktlsSI
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>>46351
https://youtu.be/W4nSjPdT788
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>>46885
Thanks that was interesting. We are a part of it. Just as cells are a part of us. It is an emergent thing. Humans will behave in an aggregate way and a structure will emerge from that. Have a helpful chart to clarify the situation :)
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>>46338
The timing seems off.

1975 US mutilations

>Democratic senator Floyd K. Haskell contacted the FBI asking for help in 1975 due to public concern regarding the issue. He claimed there had been 130 mutilations in Colorado alone, and further reports across nine states.[8] A 1979 FBI report indicated that, according to investigations by the New Mexico State Police, there had been an estimated 8,000 mutilations in Colorado, causing approximately $1,000,000 damage.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation

1987 UK Madcow

where-as madcow emerges in UK about a decade later, see pic. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy
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>>46884
A mind virus awards the stupidity of a willing host. Enough said.

>>46887
Haskell has room in his closet for payoffs and 'look-over-heres'. Compare the reports of "flying saucers" between Colorado and New Mexico during those years. What is 12 years to you? Quite a bit. What is 12 years to the monolithic CDC/US Chemical Corps.? Nothing, unless one is perfecting a new weapon.
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>>46886
An effective chart but I'm not listed on it, and I can't be certain if you are either.
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>>46889
SELECT STATE, COUNT(*) AS `num` FROM ufocat WHERE YEAR > 1974 AND YEAR < 1980 AND REGION = "US" GROUP BY STATE ORDER BY num DESC
CA 940
WI 507
IL 364
NJ 357
FL 323
NC 322
PA 320
NY 312
OH 254
MN 254
WA 231
MA 223
MI 214
TX 214
MO 196
AZ 190
CT 186
MT 179
CO 170
KY 154
NM 150
...

SELECT STATE, YEAR, COUNT(*) AS `num` FROM ufocat WHERE YEAR > 1960 AND YEAR < 1990 AND REGION = "US" AND STATE = "CO" GROUP BY YEAR ORDER BY YEAR ASC
CO 1961 21
CO 1962 44
CO 1963 12
CO 1964 29
CO 1965 60
CO 1966 94
CO 1967 365
CO 1968 56
CO 1969 20
CO 1970 28
CO 1971 13
CO 1972 18
CO 1973 31
CO 1974 38
CO 1975 85 <-- this spike correlates with Haskell's report to the FBI.
CO 1976 26
CO 1977 27
CO 1978 19
CO 1979 13
CO 1980 16
CO 1981 5
CO 1982 7
CO 1983 4
CO 1984 1
CO 1985 5
CO 1986 8
CO 1987 4
CO 1988 4
CO 1989 22

SELECT STATE, YEAR, COUNT(*) AS `num` FROM ufocat WHERE YEAR > 1960 AND YEAR < 1990 AND REGION = "US" AND STATE = "NM" GROUP BY YEAR ORDER BY YEAR ASC
NM 1961 28
NM 1962 13
NM 1963 18
NM 1964 238
NM 1965 55
NM 1966 50
NM 1967 107
NM 1968 18
NM 1969 3
NM 1970 7
NM 1971 5
NM 1972 20
NM 1973 7
NM 1974 36
NM 1975 47
NM 1976 51
NM 1977 10
NM 1978 31
NM 1979 11
NM 1980 21
NM 1981 7
NM 1983 2
NM 1984 4
NM 1988 1
NM 1989 3

SELECT STATE, YEAR, COUNT(*) AS `num` FROM ufocat WHERE YEAR = 1975 AND REGION = "US" GROUP BY STATE ORDER BY num DESC
CA 1975 269
NC 1975 239
WI 1975 218
IL 1975 163
FL 1975 140
MT 1975 136
OH 1975 129
AZ 1975 113
PA 1975 109
NJ 1975 103
WA 1975 98
MN 1975 86
CO 1975 85
NY 1975 78
TX 1975 75
CT 1975 68
MA 1975 55
MO 1975 53
ME 1975 52
NM 1975 47
...

SELECT STATE, YEAR, COUNT(*) AS `num` FROM ufocat WHERE YEAR = 1979 AND REGION = "US" GROUP BY STATE ORDER BY num DESC
CA 1979 92
WI 1979 62
MN 1979 34
IL 1979 33
TX 1979 28
FL 1979 27
WA 1979 25
MA 1979 24
NJ 1979 23
SC 1979 23
NY 1979 22
CT 1979 18
NC 1979 18
VA 1979 16
IN 1979 14
IA 1979 14
PA 1979 13
CO 1979 13
OR 1979 13
ID 1979 11
MO 1979 11
NM 1979 11
...
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>>46892
According to https://vault.fbi.gov/Animal%20Mutilation/Animal%20Mutilation%20Part%201%20of%205/view Haskell said the mutes started about 1973. My timeline above has some things missing.

First, UFO count for the USA from CUFOS UFOCAT:

1966 4881
1967 6961
1968 2554
1969 1972
1970 974
1971 910
1972 1725
1973 5545
1974 1849
1975 2825
1976 1565
1977 1296
1978 1477
1979 643

Something happened around 1973:

>“The first recombinant DNA molecules were generated at Stanford University in 1972, utilising the cleavage properties of restriction enzymes (scissors) and the ability of DNA ligase to join DNA strands together (glue). The importance of these first tentative experiments cannot be overestimated. Scientists could now join different DNA molecules together and could link the DNA of one organism to that of a completely different organism.”
– Desmond S. T. Nicholl (2008)

>[Biotechnology] use accelerated in the twentieth century, particularly after the first published instance of recombinant DNA (r-DNA) research in 1973 and the subsequent application of this technique for microorganisms, plants, animals, and humans.
- Chimeras, Hybrids and Interspecies Research Politics and Policymaking, Andrea L. Bonnicksen

>The 1973 sighting wave was concentrated in the last half of the year, and
featured the largest number of humanoid occupant sightings in many years.
- NICAP https://web.archive.org/web/20070506032731/http://www.nicap.org/waves/1973fullrep.htm

>“Witness had scoop mark type scar on her leg below her knee.” First scoop mark.
– NICAP, ibid.

>The story of Candy Jones also has what we might call a “negative relevance” to the abduction accounts. Because the Controllers did not establish a hypnotic cover story, or pseudomemory, the true facts of the case managed to percolate into her conscious mind. No matter how thorough the post-hypnotic amnesia, leaks will occur—hence the need for a false memory, to fill the gap of recollection. The CIA learns from its mistakes. Candy’s hypno-programming broke down in early 1973—the year the “alien disguise” became (if my hypothesis proves correct)
– The Controllers by Martin Cannon

The first recombinant mouse was created in 1974
- Chimeras, Hybrids and Interspecies Research Politics and Policymaking, Andrea L. Bonnicksen

So we have a spike in UFOs, a spike in staged "ETs", the starting of scoops marks, the starting of cattle mutilations and the new ability to combine any DNA with any DNA.... hmmm.
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>>46891
You didn't see Vril?

I can add you on to it.. what name should I use?
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>>46351
AfterNon, I came across these today, related to "World Monarchy"? Thoughts?

https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/2017-usna-divinagracia-treaty
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/royal-pcijicjicc-notice
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/decision-of-the-royal-icjicc-court
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/royal-pcijicjicc-notice
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fr-1782.asp

Source: https://benjaminfulford.net/2018/01/15/tensions-rise-bloodlines-illuminati-final-showdown-looms-u-s-corporate-government/
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>>46900
Correct, the numbers show that such "mutilations" had been suppressed for years. Also, what did I tell you about Fort Dietrick and Plum Island failing to cover their tracks? This is one of those instances.

"Scoop marks" are representative of a medical device that has gone virtually unnoticed, or discreetly denied, for the past 60 years. It essentially resembles a sharpened pair of spoons attached to pliers, meant to take a solid surface skin sample without anesthesia. Now correlate the numbers of "scoop marks" with the "increasing UFO reports". No coincidence there.

>>46907
Categorically, none of those can be discounted as the ICJ-ICC is registered as a, quote, "sovereignty owned court with jurisdiction applicable the world over, save for within the vatican". It would not be a surprise to find those documents are 100% legitimate. Unfortunately for the debacle of the QAnon group's infinite LARP'ing, Trump did not abolish "Admiralty Law", which most of those documents are descended from, or touch on. "Admiralty Law" is presided over by primarily catholic crypto-jewish judges hailing from the officer ranks of: the Royal Crown Navy, the Royal Crown Marines, and the Royal Crown Coast Guard, each of whom has sworn oaths to uphold the BAR, or British-American Rules (Association). Many previous concerns of triplethink in the last link are becoming newly apparent to the general public, particularly when it comes to the mentioned names.
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>>32215
Have had time to research your question of:
>"One of the things I have pondered is, can you send light pulses which mimic the protocol of the eye talking to the brain to create illusions?"
An answer has been provided to me, and that answer is a distinct yes. One of Project Redlight's goals was to combine holographic LED usage with infrasound. The full process is simple: projecting electromagnetic holograph data from a silicon chip or tape drive through a focused infrasound generator. It's.. simple, devious, can be combined with other onboard systems. Low power expenditure, cheap to produce, virtually zero maintenance. This is an indication of several problems that I've considered for some time now regarding many of the "too similar" men in suits reports. The first one is that this results in what I'm going to, for right now, call a "canned memory"; such a memory of a specific craft and occupants is universal among a large number of witnesses. The total number of far too similar reports of "little grey/green men descending from a (shape) craft" from 1967 until 1983 vastly outweigh all other reports. The second one is that such false memories are not only dreamlike, or as the conscious mind would deem them: created from stale, grainy footage. This places an unusually high, verifiable number of uses by the various MKULTRA systems into the general public's log to be searched through.
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it's obvious, even of all of these were mere prototypes, i never bought the ET shit.

yes, that's a recomfort to know that mathematically we can't be alone in the universe. but even if a civilization have millions of years of advance won't change a lot of things: you cannot travel faster than light, and light is slow at the scale of the universe. 300,000Km/s. we would need a hyperdrive of at least 300,000,000Km/s to really travel through the galaxy in a lifetime, and even at some point the spacetime is weird and won't let us.

that's the cruelty of being alone.

We have killed our gods. but the man can't live without gods, especially since he invented the nuclear weapon. So he went with ETs of all kind.

all of what are the product of jets and other airships by the early 40-50s and ongoing. I've been really discussing about the UFO phenomenon spotted in this region and in belgium in the 1990s, and from every pic, and description, that doesn't look like anything "aliens" would build; but 100% human. Stealth technology is kind of mainstream since the early 1980s. If that's our government testing a new tactical bomber or recon plane, that's nice, we understand, our tax money is used to something useful. IF the government claims that's really not them however there is a problem, if the airforce of any nation that's been spotting an UFO unable to intercept it and defend your airspace, from a foreign intelligence, this is a defense problem.

(pic related: a wonderbolt scrambled to proceed the interception of a non-responding aircraft over the Equestrian territory )
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>>46912
Genetic Experiments will be happening, the temptation is too great and fits perfectly with the eugenics ideology.
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>>46916
holographic LED
???

>projecting electromagnetic holograph data from a silicon chip or tape drive
Hard drives and punch cards not allowed?

>through a focused infrasound generator.
???

Did you technobable?
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>>46940
Using "threat of aliens" as a weaponized cover ploy for any situation imaginable became the norm in the 1980's when it became apparent there was known no life in the universe. Reagan "Star Wars" program along with subsequent criminalizations and new "drug wars" dumped 4 trillion dollars into US black projects. It was not until the late 1950's that concerted efforts to undermine so-called national security using the threat of alien invasions across the world became common.

>>47232
There were no hard drives in the 1960's, and no, those are not my words. Colleague's quote: "Look at a modern luxury car to see how many combined technologies are in use. They've been around for a while but now the new thing is overlaying an active camera feed with distance gauges using night vision, thermal, infrared, or starlight modes. Imagine a targeting system using those in conjunction by slapping active designation markers on top of every aircraft, tank, vehicle, whatever you can think of in the vicinity."

Infrasound generation is a simple technology; focused in this case refers to tight beam transmission. There is far more technology in the hands of those that should not have such than is readily apparent.
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>>47232
LED's have been used to create holographic images since 1962, perhaps becoming less experimental in 1963. Look up any Hatsune Miku concert, or any other venue where holograms are in use, to understand the simplicity, ease of use, cost effectiveness.

Imprinting data on what we would now call a silicon chip is mid-1940's technology. V1, V2 ring any bells?
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>>47394
>Infrasound generation is a simple technology; focused in this case refers to tight beam transmission.
Infrasound disperses very easily, bass wraps around corners, if you want tight beam you need to use ultrasound. Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF9G9M0cR0E
I don't see how this relates to "combine holographic LED usage with infrasound" ( >>46916 ) however projection of sound to a distant place is reasonable and dates to about the '50s or '60s as per the video,

>>47396
What type of hologram?
The Hatsune Miku concerts have video screens in the background. Not convinced it is actual 3D holodeck-like.

I am looking through videos for actual projections of holographs into space. None of it looks viable except in precise circumstances.
This one shows how it works with mist: https://youtu.be/XXsfO_jIvg4
3D, multiple viewers but need a special table and glasses: https://newatlas.com/hologram-tables-euclideon/50868/

See last 2 pages of attachment #1 for a projected cude shape. Also, quote:

1976 August 2, 4.00am TEN MILE HILL, Tasmania
Mr Wood was returning home in the early hours. At the bottom of Ten Mile Hill when driving north a screen like projection appears in front of his car, it seemed to fill the field of view. At the same time a loud distorted electrical type music sound was heard. On the screen he saw a yellow light source to the left and a large figure in profile to the right. The fig­ure was in a tight fitting black jacket and light coloured trou­sers, it seemed to be turning towards the witness. Wood braked but just seemed to drive through the screen, it was all over in a few seconds.[/b]

end quote.

Both events involve intense sound as you suggest. I don't understand the relationship between infrasound and holographic projection of light from LEDs. The attachment #1 event would seem to be an actual projection of a crude type. The Ten Mile Hill event seems more like a mist based hologram. Both happen in the same time frame and holography begins about 1968 and gains attention in the 1970s ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holography#Art ) making the timing correct.

And then how does all of this relate to sending light pulses in a protocol the eye uses to communicate with the brain?

Now I need a lie down :)

>>46916

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I do not know the basis for holographic technology, nor the specific uses of it, how it functions, what it takes to combine technologies, nor jack shit else. A colleague was asked, Herr Vril; that colleague answered, LIKELY to their own detriment. For the last time: I was not TechEng. Do not make the same mistake twice.

A specific frequency capable of distorting physical vision was mentioned. Combined technologies are the answer I was specifically given.
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>The full process is simple… >>46916
>I do not know… >>47882
Thanks for clearing that up.

>A specific frequency capable of distorting physical vision was mentioned.

This is reasonable assuming we are talking about the 19Hz infrasound to vibrate the eyeball which we have discussed before. You could then cloud the perception further by using lasers to project a view onto a remote surface (ground, clouds, mist, car windscreens, etc)

The bass tone is unlikely to be focusable and would affect everyone in it's path. There are some good examples, which might be this, from the '70s. I might do a study of this further and see what shakes out.

Here is an example from the 1970s, badly Google translated:

>Suddenly the sky was torn apart and an immense orange light split sharply into the shape of a saucer, surmounted by a dome. The two gendarmes could not believe their eyes, and their anxious looks turned to me. "My word," said one of them, "it suffices to speak of it, and here is one! The apparition had lasted only a few seconds, but the gigantic dimensions left no doubt about it. The craft was at least three hundred meters long. Deep inside me, I was happy, because there were now two gendarmes among the eyewitnesses of the phenomenon. We still had our eyes riveted on the vanished image and we lost ourselves in conjectures, when the same phenomenon recurred, with the same spontaneity, the same dimensions, the same color and the same absence of noise. The Omi had an oblique position in relation to the ground but the transience of the event led us to suppose that the craft (or both craft) materialized or dematerialized at altitude according to whether they landed or tore down. This was my only observation of the kind made in Corsica [French Island].

They had been compromised earlier though when this happened:

>It was then that we noticed, about thirty meters from us, a strange green glow along the road and at the height of the trees. In the immediate future, I thought it was a simple reflection of the moon in the foliage, so diffuse was the light. The glow was motionless and about fifty centimeters in diameter. The fluctuations turned yellow according to the luminous intensity. We were all surprised by this unusual presence and no one was rash enough to get out of the car and get to that glow.
>Undoubtedly, the "thing" was closely related to the UFO we observed a few minutes ago.
>Undoubtedly, it was one of his satellite balls that had engaged in the infernal round around the light beam and which, at present, seemed to observe us.
>Strangely enough, we all fell asleep at the end of this observation, which lasted about half an hour, and this despite our state of excitement quite [understandable. We woke up at five in the morning, chilled with cold, with a lingering impression of what we had all experienced.
>We had communicated with a UFO using light signals. We then remembered the smallest details. The relation of our individual observations, of our impressions, of our reactions, converged on this common denominator: a UFO, a small ball which observes us a few steps from us, a beam of light, balls which revolve around the machine , the sleep that assails us …
>We noticed that the clock on the dashboard was twenty minutes late. This roughly corresponds to the estimate of the time during which the little ball observed us. There were four of us that night when we saw a UFO close up.

La Corse Base Secrete D'Ovni by Jean Pierr Chambraud

You can use microwaves (or sound) to send someone to sleep:

>For our present purposes, the most significant electromagnetic research findings concern microwave signals modulated by hypnoidal EEG frequencies. Microwaves can act much like the “hemi-synch” device previously described—that is, they can entrain the brain to theta rhythms. I need not emphasize the implications of remotely synchronizing the brain to resonate at a frequency conducive to sleep, or to hypnosis.



>In 1970, a RAND Corporation scientist reported that microwaves could be used to promote insomnia, fatigue, irritability, memory loss, and hallucinations.

again the 1970s

>Frey demonstrated in the early 1960s that microwaves could produce booming, hissing, buzzing, and other intracerebral static (this phenomenon is now called “the Frey effect”); in 1973, Dr. Joseph Sharp, of the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, expanded on Frey’s work in an experiment where the subject—in this case, Sharp himself—“heard” and understood spoken words delivered via a pulsed-microwave analog of the speaker’s sound vibrations.

The Controllers by Martin Cannon

The combination of microwaves and sound to induce altered states (then add (remote?) hypnosis), using microwaves to produce apparent sound, using microwaves to produce hallucinations, using lasers to draw remote images on surfaces, and infrasound of 19Hz to vibrate the eyeball, would make some truly odd experiences.

>Do not make the same mistake twice.
This stick doesn't work. Try replacing the batteries?
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>>48072
I asked a colleague a question, they gave a simple answer, there is your dissonance. What was told to me was the "simple process", a technology of which I do not know nor can correlate enough to understand it. Not TechEng.

1960's and 1970's were the centerpieces of, quote, "shaping public perception on potential extraterrestrial encounters". Public fear over "Red Menace" started in 50's but failed to gain traction at the time. In the 1960's, the space race, quote, "ignited human imaginations in ways that shouldn't have been. The moon was impossible to visit, probes sent into outer space failed to respond, and we were still alone. So what do you, if you had unlimited funds and limited time, come up with to fill the gaps between the human world and a universe that was potentially filled with exotic life? Aliens." The early 1970's featured many pre-CGI technologies, among others, that would lead to the common 1980's uses of graphical effects the likes of which Stalin and FDR's photograph manipulators could never achieve.

The answer of "combined technologies" was given. We cannot contact other Afters in their own circles to confirm this. There are others, quite possibly one such as the German poster whom delivered numerous images in this thread before, that understand more of what that specifically means. Weird events are focii.

One does not need batteries if generation systems are capable of accommodating all humans, all the time, without infrastructure concerns.
https://truedisclosure.org/news/solar-warden-inception-to-present-day.html
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>>48756
Okay.

I don't buy the Solar Warden story. From past readings of this the story IIRC was McKinnon was stoned and entered the NASA computer that had no protection, saw spreadsheets of the transfers between space fleets etc. etc. This is all as believable as Roswell aliens. This then becomes mythology mixed in with Ra and the Sphere Being Alliance.

It is logical that humans have a space fleet, if we assume Nazi's did discover "anti-grav" and aircraft are far more sophisticated than reported.

Also while I have your attention >>/mlpol/109067 MIC vs "World Monachy"?
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>>48756
Okay.

I don't buy the Solar Warden story. From past readings of this the story IIRC was McKinnon was stoned and entered the NASA computer that had no protection, saw spreadsheets of the transfers between space fleets etc. etc. This is all as believable as Roswell aliens. This then becomes mythology mixed in with Ra and the Sphere Being Alliance.

It is logical that humans have a space fleet, if we assume Nazi's did discover "anti-grav" and aircraft are far more sophisticated than reported.

Also while I have your attention >>>/mlpol/109067 → MIC vs "World Monachy"?
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>"Scoop marks" are representative of a medical device that has gone virtually unnoticed

Can this device be pointed out?

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Of course not, McKinnon was compromised from the start regarding his access. There are some subtle hints dropped in straight from PBB's disinfo book. Add this to your timeline then begin poking holes in the stories. Then again, a certain presidential order dictating a public satellite blackout is still in effect. At least, until 2021.

There was no such organization or group that has ever been identified as "Nazi", except in war propaganda films. The word was taken from the several hundred thousand AshekeNAZI infiltrators into the German industries, political circles, and military. This is also related to Stalin's Torch Men Command, creating the enslavement, or should I be nice and call it crippling, wheat/farming deal against the US and a number of countries.

>>49194
If there was a list of every medical device created since 1962, there is a high probability, yes.
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Holograms in the air by making the air a plasma where the laser achieves focus.
https://youtu.be/ikuSPBZjkhw
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I don't believe in antigravity tech. unless I get the proof that gravity is a force like the three others that have a quantum model. like the other forces, electromagnetism is a good example and is not like gravity.

also the UFO bullshit... I have seen one, IRL one day, it was years ago. I can assure you it's scary, but to me these aren't alien tech.
when there's a triangular shaped plane hovering with some gas engine ensuring stability in flight, then rushing full post-combustion far away, I can assure you this is not alien or ancient nazi shit. These jets are European tech.

I did fill a report to the gendarmerie and they oriented me to someone at the GEIPAN in 2013. With photo.
Explained what I seen and that to me it was too familiar looking, for being a /k/ fag, to existing human tech.

guy: “I'm not here to believe in aliens. I gather data. There's no sensationalism, UFO means unknown, it was an aircraft, unidentified, low altitude.”

So? Will we ever know who developed those jets? What nation is sending them? Are they armed? with warheads on a bombs bay, or infrared cameras? Even as stealth it can get, why don't we have an efficient radar network to detect such an aircraft on our territory and intercept it/shoot it?

Also, it is noted those jets are observed around nuclear, military and marine installations over time.

People in this situation are dumb. their opinion will change depending what they are told to believe. All I know is how all this UFO shit might hide something bigger. Who is spying who?

everyone still goes in the news:"ALIENS!"
It's definitely a man-made machine with a fancy radar-unfriendly shape, for God's sake !
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>I don't believe in antigravity tech.
That is a logical fallacy. It doesn't matter whether you believe in it or not.
>It's definitely a man-made machine with a fancy radar-unfriendly shape, for God's sake !
There are many cases of UFOs, why would one cross out the possibility of some belonging to non-humans. >>49188 →
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https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document_dev/2018/05/04/Advanced_Space_Propulsion_1525479713208_41686961_ver1.0.pdf

The 17 page document explores the theme that "...empty space itself (the quantum vacuum or spacetime metric) might be engineered to provide energy/thrust for future space vehicles."

http://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2018/05/third-advanced-aerospace-weapon-system.html
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>>>/test/
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I was testing that I had the same ID after all this time. And then I can use the tripcode to verify me elsewhere. Thank you though. :)
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>>65797
hey vrill how many races of aliens have visited earth?
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>>65811
Somewhere between 0 and infinity. We can't say for sure what happened in pre-history but we can say that dreams and drugs and primitive psychological experiments are part of the options for "otherwordly" experiences.

Almost all cases when examined from say a 20 year distance can be explained with human technology advances unknown to the normal population at that time. Microwaves can beam voices into your head, magnetic fields are altered as they pass through your brain and picked up by receivers, which when interpreted could be seen as telepathically reading your mind. ( https://patents.google.com/patent/US3951134 ) What almost never happens in UFO research is a comparison of those events with human secret tech. I blame ego for this (conspiracy is an option too), we assume we know all about what humans can do, therefore anything technologically mysterious is de facto non-human tech, which means ETs. Just like anything psychologically mysterious we used to blame on spirits. What we need to realise is we, the general population, are stupid and uninformed, a few humans are smart and are on the cutting edge and can fool us endlessly. A product of classified secrets. The only chance we have is to look back at old cases and compare to now de-classified technology. But we don't, we stay focused on the current cases, which use unknown classified tech. Aliens are also perfect cover for advanced aerospace craft, because the rational people will ignore the reports of alien craft.

UFOs are, in my view, flying laboratories which solve the problem of finding and disposing of victims. Don't take the victim to your secret lab, they might learn where it is located... take the lab to the victim. Most advanced tech events, if not all, are human secret tech. There is a long history of human secret tech, as shown above, which can not have come from space. See the airship mystery above, and yet we thought it might be Martians, we are just as stupid as them today, all we have done is extended the distance they are from.

What happens if you combine Nazi "anti-gravity", MKUltra and Hollywood costumes?
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>May 18. Daily Mail of May 20, 1909, .. Mr C. Lethbridge (Lithbridge in Charles Fort’s account) .. tube-shaped contraption on the grass, and two men working on something nearby. They wore ‘big, heavy fur coats, and fur caps fitted tightly over their heads’. .. jabbered furiously in a strange lingo.’ .. rose slowly into the air in a zigzag fashion. .. two wheels* at the bottom of the carriage, and a whirling fan at the tail. ..a quantity of a substance like papiermaché left behind. Also, there was a red label in French, attached to a chain and a small pin, which was described by an engineer as being like the instrument used to regulate the valve of a pump used for injecting air from the atmosphere into an airship.
– The Humanoids (1969) - 'Few and Far Between' chapter.

>“Daily Mail, May 20–that a man, named Lithbridge, of 4 Roland Street, Cardiff, Wales, had, in the office of the Cardiff Evening Express, told a marvelous story. This story was that, upon the 18th of May, about 11 P.M., while walking along a road, near the Caerphilly Mountains, Wales, he had seen, on the grass, at a side of the road, a large tube-shaped construction. In it were two men, in heavy fur-overcoats. When they saw Mr. Lithbridge, they spoke excitedly to each other, in a foreign language, and sailed away. Newspaper men visited the place, and found the grass trampled, and found a scattering of torn newspapers and other debris.
– LO! by Charles Fort (1931)

>“May 18th. Caerphilly, Wales. A Cardiff man named Lithbridge says he was walking through the mountains when he came across a large cylindrical construction parked beside a lonely road. Inside it he saw two peculiar looking men dressed in some kind of fur coats. On seeing him they gabbled excitedly in a foreign language. The next minute the machine rose in the air and flew away. It had no wings and made little noise. A depression was found in the grass at the place he indicated—the first report in this century of one of these things seen on the ground.
– FLYING SAUCERS HAVE LANDED by Leslie and Adamski (1957)

>“I saw a funny-looking object on the roadside, and two men who seemed to be at some kind of work close by. The object was long and like a big cigar. They were tall men, military-looking men, and were dressed in thick fur coats and caps. Of course, I didn’t know they were officers, but they were two men—that’s certain, and military men, too. I was about 20 or 30 yards away when I first saw the men. The noise of my truck—it rattles a lot—must have disturbed them for they commenced to speak very fast, some kind of lingo which I could not understand. They appeared to pick up something off the ground and jump into the object close by. Then it rose up like—like a switchback movement—and when it had got up a pretty good height, it went straight in the direction of Cardiff. I thought at first it was some big bird, but it must have been an airship. Well, after it had gone up a way, two lights began to shine from it. They looked like electric lights. It made an awful noise—a whirring noise—a noise like an engine working. Saw and heard it! I have no doubt about it. I was frightened, I can tell you, and after watching it go away towards Cardiff, 1 continued to walk home.” Lethbridge’s strange experience took place between 10:30 and 11 o’clock on Tuesday night, May 18th. Interestingly, it was confirmed by' the statements of residents in Salisbury Road, Cathays, Cardiff, who said that they also saw an object in the air that looked like an airship between 10:40 and 10:50 P.M. A search was made on Caerphilly Mountain at the location that Lethbridge indicated, and a red label printed in French was discovered, along with a piece of mutilated notepaper and several other slips of paper, but these only served to confuse the issue.
– World’s Best “True” UFO Stories by Jenny Randles (1994)

>“Most accounts leave out what the investigators found at the site: a variety of artifacts including parts of letters, a spare part for a tire valve, papier-mâché wads, blue paper containing figures and letters, and clippings about airships. All of this suggests, or at least seems intended to convey, the notion that the airship crew consisted of foreign spies. .. Coincidentally or otherwise, during a wave of UFO reports in France in the fall of 1954, a railroad worker at Monlucon claimed that one evening he encountered a tube-shaped craft. Outside it stood a man dressed in what looked like a long, hairy overcoat. When the witness addressed the figure, the latter responded in an unknown language. The witness left the scene to report it to his supervisor, but when the two returned, the UFO and the hairy-coated figure were gone.
– EXTRAORDINARY ENCOUNTERS by Jerome Clark (2000)

>“assorted junk was found at the site, including a metal machine part which was clearly stamped ”Made in France.”
- The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings by Keel (1970)

>‘a long-tube-shaped affair lying on the roadside’ .. (whom he assumed were German spies) .. ‘rose into the air in a zig-zag fashion’ .. At 1,000 miles each way, the round trip from the Zeppelin hangars at Friedrichshafen in Germany to the east coast of Britain would also have been impossible to complete under cover of darkness and would have taken the giant airship over parts of Belgium and France in daylight, where it would have been seen by thousands of people.
- The UFO Files by David Clarke (2013) ← Cardiff Evening Express and Evening Mail, 19 May 1909.

>“two “young men … officers” wearing fur coats.”
– Hidden Realms by Jerome Clark (2010)

What seems like a French military adventure becomes part of UFO mythology. How much history never made it into the official history books and so was left as myths and mysteries?
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i agree with you mostly but one case is unexplainable with the theory of advanced human tech.and thats the 1561 Nuremberg spaceship battle that happend over Germany.
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Its a very interesting case.

Year 1561

>"In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun, above and below and on both sides, the color was blood, there stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferrous color. Likewise there stood on both sides and as a torus about the sun such blood-red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned' and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west. Whatever such signs mean, God alone knows. Although we have seen, shortly one after another, many kinds of signs on the heaven, which are sent to us by the almighty God, to bring us to repentance, we still are, unfortunately, so ungrateful that we despise such high signs and miracles of God. Or we speak of them with ridicule and discard them to the wind, in order that God may send us a frightening punishment on account of our ungratefulness. After all, the God-fearing will by no means discard these signs, but will take it to heart as a warning of their merciful Father in heaven, will mend their lives and faithfully beg God, that He may avert His wrath, including the well-deserved punishment, on us, so that we may temporarily here and perpetually there, live as his children. For it, may God grant us his help, Amen. By Hanns Glaser, letter-painter of Nurnberg."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg

and more:

Year 1861

>1831 Sighting Of 80-Minuie Meteor - The Corvallis Gazette-Times of Corvallis, Oregon contained a very interesting record of a sighting of a strange meteor sighted by the crew of a ship off Puget Sound. The article, by Kenneth Holmes, takes from “Lights and Shadows of Sailor Life,” published in Boston in 1848: “At ten minutes past B o'clock on the 31st, (May) a meteor of immense magnitude and brilliancy shot across the heavens in a northwest direction, illuminating the heavens to such an extent that there was a resemblance of a sheet of fire until it nearly reached the horizon, when it exploded, sending off myriads of corruscations in every direction. When it first commenced its flight, it was exceedingly slow in its descent, but as it increased its distance torwards the horizon it increased its velocity considerably, until it burst. Many old seamen on board never witnessed a meteor half so large, nor one whose light remained so long visible. From the time it was first seen until it disappeared, was one hour and twenty-five minuites.” Unquote. (This apparently encompasses time of sighting plus duration of observation of trail. -The Ed.)
– MUFON 1963 May

Comment: 80 minute sighting.

Year 1833

Upon the night of November 13-14. 1833, occurred the most sensational celestial spectacle of the nineteenth century: for six hours fiery meteors gushed from the heavens, and were visible along the whole Atlantic coast of the United States.
– New Lands by Fort (1923) → UFOCAT multiple entries. See also: The Astronomical Journal, 134:1037 Y 1045, 2007 September # 2007, 3D-BIELA and the Andromenids by P. Jenniskens and J. Vaubaillon (2007)

Comment: 6 hours of meteorites

Year 1779

>A member of the North Jersey Highland Historical Society recently came across an interesting meteor report published in The Journal of Thomas Hughes, the daily diary of a British officer who served with General Burgoyne during the Revolutionary War. On page 76 he stated: “November 21, 1779. A strange meteor was seen in the south, just as the sun went down. It appeared like a ball of fire and left a long trail of light—something like the turnings of a corkscrew—visible for near an hour.”
– Why UFOs by Keel (1970)

Comment: "ball" and "corkscrew".

Year 1723

>“glimmering light .. 45 degrees above the horizon, a light .. from the south above, .. three inches .. to the north .. spreading itself .. heard by a whizzing .. 45 degrees to the north above .. it stopped short, and ceased enlarging .. twenty inches .. figure of a trumpet-marine, .. very lively sparks, shining bright .. extinguished almost as fast .. with a great noise from the middle .. large end, a ball quite round, and all on fire: .. emitted about twenty minutes after, a hollow, but very loud noise for the space of a minute. .. The light began to be weakened to the south, after emitting the ball, and at length disappeared, before the noise of the ball was heard.”
– UFOCAT ← APRO Dec. 1978.

Comment: "ball"

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Year 1716

>Mar 6. Astronomer Edmond Halley; UFO sighted for 2 hrs; 'bright enough to read' – UFOCAT, UFOIC Newsletter No 37 Sep-Oct 1972. See also the song “These Lights to me like great long spears did show, Sharp at one end, .. there was above a score. Then I saw like Blood it did appear, And that was very throng among those spears; .. The next I saw two Clouds meet fierce together .. And Darkened all these Spears excepting one, They gave a Clash and quickly they were gone.” about this event in UFOs and Popular Culture by James R. Lewis (2000) ← The Ballads and Songs of Derbyshire compiled by Llewellynn Jewitt (1867) ← The Garland of Merriment (1717). See also Wonders in the Sky Vallee (2009) for 1716 “Clouds fighting” in Baltic Sea.

Comment: "spears".

Year 1566

Pic #1
>It happened in 1566 three times, on 27 and 28 of July, and on August 7, against the sunrise and sunset; we saw strange shapes in the sky above Basel.
>During the year 1566, on the 27th of July, after the sun had shone warm on the clear, bright skies, and then around 9 pm, it suddenly took a different shape and color. First, the sun lost all its radiance and luster, and it was no bigger than the full moon, and finally it seemed to weep tears of blood and the air behind him went dark. And he was seen by all the people of the city and countryside. In much the same way also the moon, which has already been almost full and has shone through the night, assuming an almost blood-red color in the sky. The next day, Sunday, the sun rose at about six o'clock and slept with the same appearance it had when it was lying before. He lit the houses, streets and around as if everything was blood-red and fiery. At the dawn of August 7, we saw large black spheres coming and going with great speed and precipitation before the sun and chattered as if they led a fight. Many of them were fiery red and, soon crumbled and then extinguished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1566_celestial_phenomenon_over_Basel

>"In the first hour of the night of November 4 there was seen in the sky over Uxbridge, England a pillar of fire the size of a small boat, pallid and livid in colour. It rose from the south, crossed the sky with slow and grave motions, and went north. Out of the front of the pillar, a fervent red flame burst forth with great beams of light. Its speed increased, and it flew through the air.”
– UFOs and Aliens Preston Dennett (2008)

Year 1032

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Event from 1032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Chronicle

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Re 1561, my first question is, who drew the picture? A witness or a scribe using imagination? The time of day is interesting also. Dawn is when directly overhead is the path that the Earth is heading into. So dawn is when the Earth would overrun slower solar orbiting space rocks. These rocks could stay overhead for sometime as they move randomly in space, prior to falling into the Earth's gravity well.

Another thing I notice from these early reports is that they are always geometric shapes. Why? Is a limitation of wood carving? A limitation of available descriptive words? Or an assumption from the times that the Heavens are perfect and God only makes perfect things in His Heaven? Blaming God back then is exactly the same as blaming aliens today, it is a unfalsifiable answer that gives our ego comfort that we aren't uninformed.

There is an additional wrinkle here, there seems to have been manned flight as early as 840AD:

Year 840

>In A.D. 840, Agobard, Archbishop of Lyons [France], wrote of witnessing the execution of three men and one woman who had been captured when they left ‘‘ships that had come from the clouds.” The strangers had been apprehended as they were trading for food with local peasants Church officials kept the aliens in chains for three days before they allowed the populace to stone them as demons.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978)

1200s

>Cloena Borough .. at church hearing mass, an anchor was dropped from the sky as if thrown from a ship, for a rope was attached to it, and one of the flukes of the anchor became caught in the arch above the door. .. They saw a ship with men aboard floating before the anchor cable, and they saw a man leap overboard and dive down to the anchor as it to release it. When he came down to the anchor he tried to loosen it, but the people rushed up and seized him. The Bishop was present when this occurred and forbade his people to hold the man, for he said it might prove fatal as when one is held under water. As soon as the‘l man was released he hurried up to the ship; when he was up, the crew cut the rope and the ship sailed away out of sight.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978) ← Albert B. Holland appeared in the March 1958 issue of Fate ← King’s Mirror (old Norse, 13th Century).

Year 1207

>In Otto Imperiaiia, Book One, Chapter Eighteen,. Gervase of Tilbury writes of an aerial ship which caught its “anchor” in a pile of stones near the city of Bristol around A.D. 1207. When an occupant emerged from the ship to free it, he found himself immediately surrounded by curious citizens. Although the visitor accomplished his task, he seemed suddenly to become asphyxiated by the atmospherc and fell, dying and gasping, to the ground.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978)

Alien men and women with ropes and anchors?? Held hostage with no rescue from the mothership?
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To be fair, here is a case for something odd going on sometimes:

>Dr. Dees close encounter in 1586 “… little man with averted face, whose feet “seemed not to touch the ground”, who moved in “a little fiery cloud”, doors opening of themselves before him, and who mounted up into the sky in “a great piller of fire”
– Crux, Issue 1 (Summer 1985), pg 17 ← “A True and Faithful Relation of what passed for many Years Between Dr. John Dee and Some Spirits” by Meric Casaubon (1659)

More on Dee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee

Spirits or ETs? If you answer a mystery with a mystery have you solved it?
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Sounds like an ayy lmao to me. Also i love the thread vrill. You do a good job.
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Thanks.
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>Sounds like an ayy lmao to me.
No report of a UFO or mechanical device though. Spirit actually fits better.
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>They had all previously completely missed the boat in their attempts to interpret Tesla's technology - according to the false Relativist physics - mainly because of the snotty report by their "expert", John G. Trump. Even the FBI has failed to grasp the significance of the note concerning Ms. Marguerite Merrington's witnessing of Tesla's 1894 "metallic plate suspension", and to black it out, in the Tesla papers released under the F.O.I.A. It wasn't until von Braun and company disclosed that their flying saucer technology was based on Tesla's 1890s discoveries, that our government knew what they had, and what the Nazis had already acquired in the 1930's from Tesla's files. Quite a lot of Tesla's technology had already leaked through several sources before the FBI's scanty look into it in 1943, fully seven years after von Braun's "p2" project at Los Alamos.
- Pentagon Aliens by William Lyne (1993)

Contrast with the attached pic suggesting Trump hid it on purpose.
Contrast the timing with the emergence of strange vehicles in the sky.
Is this just a cyclic reference referring only to itself?
Did Tesla start "anti-gravity"?
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>The phantom balloon scare of 1892
>Perhaps the first mass outbreak of mystery aircraft sightings took place in 1892 in Russian-occupied Poland, near the German border. The Manchester Guardian reported on 26 March that a 'large balloon coming from the German frontier appeared about the fortress of Kovno
– The Scareship Age, 1892-1946: Collected Blog Posts from Airminded by Brett Holman (2013)
https://airminded.org/downloads/download-info/the-scareship-age-1892-1946-pdf/

> 1893 Central New South Wales, Australia
>An anecdote handed down within a farming family told of an extraordinary UFO story that was alleged to have happened in 1893 in Central New South Wales. A farmer claimed that a saucer-shaped object landed in a paddock on his property. As he approached the object, a man in strange clothing emerged from it. The farmer walked towards the being. The stranger shone some kind of beam at him, whereby the farmer was thrown to the ground, stunned. His hand where the beam had hit him was paralysed for life.
http://www.project1947.com/kbcat/kbmoreintoz.htm

Regarding the beam:

This might be an electric cattle prod also note that in 1887 Gassner (French) portable dry batteries exist: “By 1889 there were at least six well-known dry batteries in circulation. Later battery manufacturing produced smaller, lighter batteries, and the application of the tungsten filament in 1909 created the impetus to develop batteries for use in torches.”
http://www.batteryfacts.co.uk/BatteryHistory/Gassner.html

Or something like 1888 Microwave technology:

>Hertz had demonstrated generation of electromagnetic waves, and that their properties were similar to those of light[1]. Before the start of the twentieth century, many of the concepts now familiar in microwaves had been developed [2,3]: the list includes the cylindrical parabolic reflector, dielectric lens, microwave absorbers, the cavity radiator, the radiating iris and the pyramidal electromagnetic horn. Round, square and rectangular waveguides were used, with experimental development anticipating by several years Rayleigh's 1896 theoretical solution [4] for waveguide modes. Many microwave components in use were quasi-optical - a term first introduced by Oliver Lodge [5]. Righi in 1897 published a treatise on microwave optics [6]. References: [1] H. Hertz, Electric Waves. London: Macmillan and Co. Ltd., 1893. (Reprinted by Dover.) [2] John F. Ramsay, “Microwave Antenna and Waveguide Techniques before 1900,” Proc. IRE., Vol.46, No.2, pp. 405-415, February 1958. [3] K.L. Smith, “Victorian Microwaves,” Wireless World, pp. 93-95, September 1979. [4] Lord Rayleigh, “On the passage of electric waves through tubes, or the vibrations of dielectric cylinders,” Phil. Mag., vol.43, pp.125-132, February 1897. [5] Oliver Lodge, Signalling Across Space Without Wires. Fleet Street, London, U.K.: “The Electrician” Printing & Publishing Company, 1908, 4th Ed., p. 83. (First edition published in 1894 under the title, The Work of Hertz and His Successors.) [6] A. Righi, L'Ottica delle Oscillazioni Elettriche. Bologna, Italy: N. Zanichelli, 1897.
– THE WORK OF JAGADIS CHANDRA BOSE: 100 YEARS OF MM-WAVE RESEARCH by D.T. Emerson (1998).
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https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2001%20of%2003/view
Page 186.
Pic related. Dead end?
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Could Tesla have been thinking about electricity and gravity in 1894?

>A GRAVITATIONAL AND ELECTROMAGNETIC ANALOGY. (1893)
http://sergf.ru/Heavisid.htm

this eventually leads to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism

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TESLA'S NEW MONARCH OF MACHINES
by Nikola Tesla
New York Herald, Oct. 15, 1911
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"Not the aeroplane, the flying machine," responded Dr. Tesla. "Now you have struck the point in which I am most deeply interested--the object toward which I have been devoting my energies for more than twenty years--the dream of my life. It was in seeking the means of making the perfect flying machine that I developed this engine.

"Twenty years ago I believed that I would be the first man to fly; that I was on the track of accomplishing what no one else was anywhere near reaching. I was working entirely in electricity then and did not realize that the gasoline engine was approaching a perfection that was going to make the aeroplane feasible. There is nothing new about the aeroplane but its engine, you know.

"What I was working on twenty years ago was the wireless transmission of electric power. My idea was a flying machine propelled by an electric motor, with power supplied from stations on the earth. I have not accomplished this as yet, but am confident that I will in time.

"When I found that I had been anticipated as to the flying machine, by men working in a different field, I began to study the problem from other angles, to regard it as a mechanical rather than an electrical problem. I felt certain there must be some means of obtaining power that was better than any now in use. And by vigorous use of my gray matter for a number of years, I grasped the possibilities of the principle of the viscosity and adhesion of fluids and conceived the mechanism of my engine. Now that I have it, my next step will be the perfect flying machine."

"An aeroplane driven by your engine?" I asked.

"Not at all," said Dr. Tesla. "The aeroplane is fatally defective. It is merely a toy--a sporting play-thing. It can never become commercially practical. It has fatal defects. One is the fact that when it encounters a downward current of air it is helpless. The "hole in the air" of which aviators speak is simply a downward current, and unless the aeroplane is high enough above the earth to move laterally but can do nothing but fall.

"There is no way of detecting these downward currents, no way of avoiding them, and therefore the aeroplane must always be subject to chance and its operator to the risk of fatal accident. Sportsmen will always take these chances, but as a business proposition the risk is too great.

"The flying machine of the future--my flying machine--will be heavier than air, but it will not be an aeroplane. It will have no wings. It will be substantial, solid, stable. You cannot have a stable airplane. The gyroscope can never be successfully applied to the airplane, for it would give a stability that would result in the machine being torn to pieces by the wind, just as the unprotected aeroplane on the ground is torn to pieces by a high wind.

"My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of "holes in the air" or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action."

"You will get stability through gyroscopes?" I asked.

"Through gyroscopic action of my engine, assisted by some devices I am not yet prepared to talk about," he replied.

"Powerful air currents that may be deflected at will, if produced by engines and compressors sufficiently light and powerful, might lift a heavy body off the ground and propel it through the air," I ventured, wondering if I had grasped the inventor's secret.

Dr. Tesla smiled an inscrutable smile.

"All I have to say on that point is that my airship will have neither gas bag, wings nor propellers," he said. "It is the child of my dreams, the product of years of intense and painful toil and research. I am not going to talk about it any further. But whatever my airship may be, here at least is an engine that will do things that no other engine ever has done, and that is something tangible."

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1911-10-15.htm

Hmmmm...
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http://www.teslacollection.com/tesla_articles/1911/new_york_herald/frank_parker_stockbridge/tesla_s_new_monarch_of_mechanics
Hmmmm!!