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Unidentified Submerged Objects

>>66645
>70% water planet

1893 - electric monster >>66001 -- failed USO?

WW2 - “The U.S. already has at least one water base we know of, a naval testing facility beneath a deep lake in Bayview, Idaho established during World War II.” – https://science.howstuffworks.com/does-military-maintain-secret-underwater-bases.htm and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayview,%20Idaho

1950 - Apr. Off Northern and Central California: Sent to investigate 9 separate reports by fishermen, Coast Guard stations Coast Guard patrol planes. No subs sighted in 5 day search, but contacts indicated high speed underwater craft operating in the coastal Eureka area. – http://www.project1947.com/47cats/usnavydraft1.htm#1850 ← Source: Modesto (CA) Bee. 10 Nov, 1950.

1950 - Jun. ”.. 11:00 PM. .. breaking the nocturnal silence, .. loud noise of water violently disturbed. .. luminous object of oval form appeared emerging from the sea about 500 meters from the shore. It rose up vertically to a certain altitude and then made a turn of ninety degrees and disappeared towards the northeast in the direction of Argentine terrority.” – The MUFON UFO Journal, no. 130 (Sep 1979)

Buoyancy in air and water.

>>67892
>Is this all fantasy? Is there any hard evidence for secret post-war German bases? Has a post-war German base ever been discovered? Yes, one has. New evidence for this exodus theory comes to us from the discovery of a German U-boat way-station in the Atlantic which had a hand in moving this clandestine cargo from Europe to the austral world well after the war, right into the 1950s. This information is revealed in an article in the July, 1984 issue of Nugget magazine titled "Der U-Boot Bunker von Fuerteventura" (20). Fuerteventura is the eastern most island of the Canary Island chain and lies just out of sight off the west coast of North Africa.
>Geologically, the base was formed by an huge, ancient volcanic bubble around which the molten rock solidified in the center of the island. According to the article, the Germans brought in excavation equipment and bored out three tunnels for underwater access by U-boats. On top of the island, directly over the bubble and the military facility rested a villa with a stairway leading down to the base from the cellar. The villa was owed by a respectable German family, named Winter. This base functioned during the war as a secret U-boat base for the Germans. It continued this function after the war as a way-station for transport U-boats.

Hitler?s Flying Saucers by Henry Stevens (2003, 2012)

(20) = Nugget, July and August editions 1984, "Der U-Boot Bunker von Fuerteventura"

>>67887
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectric_accelerometer
A gravity wave sensor/receiver/transmitter?

T. T. Brown -> dielectrics -> "Many piezoelectric devices are made of the same ceramic materials as capacitor dielectrics."* -> piezoelectric -> gravito-electric comms through Faraday cages?
* https://www.britannica.com/technology/capacitor-dielectric

>>67887
>solid state laser-like wavelengths

>1888 Hertz had demonstrated generation of electromagnetic waves, and that their properties were similar to those of light[1]. Before the start of the twentieth century, many of the concepts now familiar in microwaves had been developed [2,3]: the list includes the cylindrical parabolic reflector, dielectric lens, microwave absorbers, the cavity radiator, the radiating iris and the pyramidal electromagnetic horn. Round, square and rectangular waveguides were used, with experimental development anticipating by several years Rayleigh's 1896 theoretical solution
-- THE WORK OF JAGADIS CHANDRA BOSE: 100 YEARS OF MM-WAVE RESEARCH by D.T. Emerson (1998)

>Allan H. Frey was the first American to publish on the microwave auditory effect (MAE). Frey's Human auditory system response to modulated electromagnetic energy appeared in the Journal of Applied Physiology in 1961.
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave%20auditory%20effect

Artificial telepathy.

>>67891
More literal. Instant communication network set up by the Vril Societe`. "Carrier pigeon" was one of Tesla's remarks. Notice similarity to "carrier wave"? Assigning a new meaning to one word prevents infiltration/subversion. At least for a while.

Yes. Analogous to quartz-crystal vacuum tube radio system, too expensive for mass production. Extrapolation: nearly impossible to intercept.

>>67892
Highly likely in multiple scenarios. Electrolysis conversion engines are bitterly derided by idiots that love screaming "b-b-but that breaks the l-laws of thermodynamics!" Not laws, merely pathetic, basic bitch guidelines of testing working knowledge. Bayview still active like Fort Dietrick/Plum Island except now owned by Nigger Shit Adults, La Sia, and the kike word nasa which means 'to greatly deceive'. Gee, wonder what that could refer to.

>>67896
>>67895
Would explain why Vril Societe` and friends were never caught by (((Allies))). Better than satellite comms until recent innovations, harder to detect. Gravity is still poorly understood.

>>67897
Electromagnetism was never seen as magical or mystical by thinkers, researchers, experimenters. All processes can be precisely examined, all carrier waves can be precisely tuned, all affects & effects can be controlled. Ever come across images of clouds being phased in peculiar wavelengths by H.A.A.R.P. or NexRad installations? Funny business indeed.

>>67910
Corrupt little green men that found power and did not want to relinquish any of it. It was not that shithawks didn't want another Jew War, they simply wanted to win one with incredible ease. "Look at how profound and complete our victories are, we're the best in the world, no one should ever DARE to compete against us!" Korean (((Police Action))), the 1950's Central Asian (((Civil Wars))), Vietnam directly caused by the frog surrender cucks, 1970's (((drug wars))), the many African (((revolutions))), as well as too many other created conflicts to name = provided money, materials, slaves, captured researchers/scientists "needed" to overcome then-current knowledge before advancing designs. Remember Projects Montauk, Rainbow, Phoenix? All derived from stolen sources with the same limitations. All were utter failures until Operations Paperclip, Factory Shortage, Highway Construction succeeded in enslaving 20,000 to 30,000 Germans, 3,000 to 5,000 French, post-1945 an unknown number of Japanese, as well as close to 15,000 other peculiarly disappeared engineers, scientists, researchers, etc., forced to work as slaves. What is the joke here? A-12, F-117, B-2, F-22, F-35 are wasteful little jokes. Divert attention by creating something else entirely, then try to suppress the diversion which eventually creates """conspiracy theories""". Are you aware of the nearly 400 formerly secret installations across the Jew-S southwest & Australian deserts? A certain someone discovered them when examining data on cellular network access points. 21 trillion in worthless fiat currency is nothing compared to the costs those caused.

>>68864
Always interesting when you reply. I am somewhat dubious of the transmission strength and receptivity of gravity waves. But 2 lasers (or a mirror) that self cancel unless space-time distorts ........ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO

Communications by gravity.... Neat! How long have the comms been secret Mr. T. T. Brown!!!? How do I get a gravity receiver??

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>CIA’s illegal mind-control experiments exposed in secret files
>Experiments which were “too dangerous, too shocking, too unusual for routine testing would be of interest to us,” the memo from 1956 reads.
http://patriotrising.com/cias-illegal-mind-control-experiments-exposed-in-secret-files/

Attachment#1 -- source: http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/cia-mkultra-collection/#2018 (Document 77)

Combine this with >>29447 (pic#2 and #3) and >>20033 (Attach#3). We all know where this is going. And it starts somewhere in the early 1950s. Which is also when the "contactees" turn up and right in line with the drift into MKUltra mentality. Timelining is leading to many correlations. Also Attch #1 makes Cathie O'Brien look even more less foolish. This is treason.

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I am finishing up a study of the 1947 "Disc" Wave, because of the book above, which includes Kenneth Arnold's famous sighting and seems to be related to the Roswell event. The details are too many and incomplete to go into now, but one thing is becoming obvious. A wave of UFO reports occurs like this:

1) There must be (genuine) concerns about objects in the sky (criminal pirates, war jitters, etc) casing the public to watch the sky and report.
2) Nature then provides a meteor shower, the public and the media view the lights through the bias of the existing fears.
3) The military becomes alarmed at the mere possibility. This leads to finding ways to obtain or counter the assumed technology.

The space rocks responsible for these events were not detectable in 1947 or the 1933-4 Ghost Flyers of Scandinavia. 1896 Airships, 1910s Airships need to be looked at in this light also. So much to do!

This is very obvious in the analysis so far of the 1947 "Discs". I hope to do a series of posts on it soon.

pic #2-4 because the original intended uploads were already here and so ... because no way to unattach exists.

Some extra fun with data. This is a heat matrix of sightings in the UFOCAT db. It shows a drop off in reports when MKUltra gets shutdown. Something else was reduced in 1979 also.

This is a useful tool because meteors will cause dark bands running upwards, and human activity will cause bands running horizontal. A "wave" can be when an upward (seasonal meteors) and horizontal (human activity) band meet.

What's your view of Bob Lazar? Is he the real deal?

>>70177
Half truth. Flying saucers go back to the ~1910s and are consistent with aircraft evolution and our scientific evolution:
1886: cheap aluminium
1893: Tesla-like electric "monster" tries to rise(?) from the water >>66001
1909: rigid airships https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Aviation#History
1909: French airship in England with what seems to be wheels (Discs? Tesla discs?) attached.
1913: saucers (discs) with vacuum assisted lift, and "gravity is only a different type of magnetism" (ie. Gravito-electromagnetism) >>32212
1940-50s: Flying saucers have human space brothers in them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contactee
There is a progression from airship to flying saucer by humans, and then using them for psyops on the public.

Lazar saying it was reverse engineered from alien is either a known lie or an unwitting lie. The only evidence I have found for ETs, where humans could not have staged it, is >>65820

So if we have discs flying around in 1910s, they can be in S4 in 1989. My speculation at the moment is that after MKUltra had exploited man-made flying saucers (as a flying experimental mind control and biological laboratories, to test unwilling victims driving at 3am in the morning) they needed a cover story. With the exposure of MKUltra in the 1970s a new "explanation" was needed for the 1950s+ UFO events.

In 1980 Roswell "alien" stories turn up, the witnesses are very convincing, but zero evidence. Mind controlled "witnesses"? In 1985 Whitley Strieber (who now believes he was manipulated by the military mind control) published Communion which brings Greys to the public consciousness and then they are retrofitted back onto 1947 Roswell.

And in 1989 Lazar claims "reverse engineering" of ET craft. This is the new cover up story for flying saucer based MKultra experiments on the local population.

You can see that the ET origin claim doesn't hold up when you look at our history. We did all this to ourselves.

>>70176
>1979
An interesting tale which provides one interpretation for the collapse in sightings in January 1979. And feeds into just about every conspiracy:

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AMB is these days primarily a research, development and deployment facility specialising in weaponry, anti-grav technology and dimensional-fold craft, and though it continues to be prone to outbreaks of violence between conflicting Terran and extra-Terran species, what goes on these days is nothing compared to the battle which ensued when everything came to a rolling boil in 1979.

The genesis of AMB dates from 1947 when President Harry Truman signed a treaty allowing the limited harvest (presumably under the auspices of research only) of local livestock—primarily cattle, sheep and goats—in exchange for what was presumed to be full access to extra-Terran weapons technology. This proved to be the equivalent of exchanging the island of Manhattan for a string of glass beads. As things usually unfold whenever a primitive race encounters a dominant one, it was revealed over time that matters were not going exactly to a plan that benefitted the primitives. Ingrained distrust and hatreds on the base culminated in what is now known as The Battle of Dulce. The timing couldn’t have been better—the cavalry were already mounted and ready to ride.

In 1977 National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski briefed President Jimmy Carter on what was suspected to be happening at AMB, namely, that livestock was not the only living thing being tagged or harvested. Carter was so freaked out he ordered a reconnaissance team assembled, calling upon the newly-established Delta Force accompanied by a group selected from Air Force Special Operations Command, Navy SEAL and Army Rangers.

The report revealed that the NSA had known all along what was going on, were backing the extra-Terran agenda of human research and had developed a Department X to administer the project. The foolishness of the NSA assuming they were capable of handling anything was made abundantly clear when the operation files were eventually prised from their iron grip. Contained within is the stuff of nightmares.

AMB’s ultimate goal was to produce humans who would stay child-sized forever, much like breeding dogs for their toy poodle-aspect, though what they discovered was that the more they strayed from the original genetic blueprint the less human the entities became; they were useless for purposes of sacrifice or sexual conquest because the more the form was tinkered with the less likely it was to house a soul.

Years of experimentation resulted in the production of human-shaped automatons acceptable for sexual use by the lower-ranking members of the elite—much like an inflatable sex doll compares to a human lover—but useless in terms of response capability when inflicting the trauma of rape or sacrifice, as well as yielding desirable pineal glands (the hypothalamus, pituitary and amygdala, as well) demanded for consumption in ritual at the highest levels.

To this day there appears no synthetic substitute for an actual, organically-conceived human child. As an aside, the health risks associated with eating the aforementioned parts of the human brain are alleviated by access to proprietary medications that forestall the resultant decline in health of the consumer. Once a politician, for example, is no longer of use to the Enemy, palliatives are withdrawn, hastening immediate decline. The health trials of Killary spring to mind—swivel-eyed seizures, loss of equilibrium and persistent spasmodic dry coughing fits, all aspects of the symptoms of kuru.

I must also add that the children most desired for consumption are Anglo-Saxon-Teutonic descent Whites with O- Blood Type, though any Rhesus Negative blood group will serve in a pinch.

What the Enemy desires above all is organically-grown, fully-ensouled humans, much like caviar connoisseurs prefer beluga to cod roe. They are intoxicated by the chemicals released when a child is terrorised, and exhilarated by the challenge of conquering and consuming what (they believe) is a pure, sovereign spirit. This is an addiction for our rulers, and by many accounts the world’s oldest addiction since the heyday of Babylon.
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https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018/12/10/the-conjurers-tale/

1979: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz became convinced he was intercepting electronic communications from alien spacecraft and installations outside of Albuquerque. By the 1980s he believed he had discovered an underground base near Dulce.
1979: Philip Schneider, an explosive engineer who worked for the U.S. government, with high-level security clearance, claimed that in 1979 he participated in the building of a “secret underground base,” in Dulce, New Mexico. It was here that a horrific battle played out leaving 60 humans dead and countless subterranean aliens fighting for their life. – https://youtu.be/9COrANDQvWg?t=2430 (skip to 40:30)

Pull in also >>46892 . Which bring up an interesting, and opposite position to my posts here, idea. Human history going back to the late 1800s includes our increasing ability to manipulate spacetime. On the surface this leads potentially to gravity control. But it could when pushed to extreme make spacetime tunnels. Potentially contacting other creatures. So we would have two branches of history, the human branch and the interdimensional beings branch. Research based on documentation would verify the human branch but is incapable of verifying the interdimensional branch leading to the (my) biased conclusion that it is ALL human activity.

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>>70463

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On the other hand this is a new narrative to cover up the MKUltra abuses. There is still the problem of why, if Philip Schneider did participate in a battle with "aliens" in 1979, were fake "aliens" dressed as fake "aliens" in what they would have assumed was a secure facility underground. Or he is lying and participating in the cover-up narrative.

Which then begs the question, why is interdimensional kidnappers and abusers better than admitting MKUltra did other bad things too?

I am disturbed by the possibility that our history is not the only participant in the UFO story.

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If you only have documents for the left side path you would erroneously conclude that only the left side events occurred. There are rumours of time experiments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project

Space might be dead, Afternon. But are the "other dimensions" dead??

I've been thinking, rockets look like cocks and planes look like cocks with triangle wings.

So... What if aliens have weird penises, and that's why their spaceships look like that?

>>70649
Perhaps cone like shapes are best for penetration. And nature and engineers know this.

>>67308

pic.
Interesting timing >>70176

What happens if a space rock does a close pass of Mercury (which has no atmosphere) and it breaks up. What if the debris converts some of its forward momentum into angular momentum. What if the debris is then sent towards Earth's orbit. What if it it enters the Earth's atmosphere in 1946 ("Ghost Rockets") and in 1947. Could fast rotating space rocks, molten in the Earth's atmosphere, look like Flying Disks of June and July 1947? Could they flash white light and glint in the sun? Could they drop molten metal and float in the air? Could they spiral around in the air like birds?

COMING SOON. If anyone cares.

>>70175
Which technologies are capable of detecting gravitational distortion on a system scale rather than a single world's scale? A number less than four. During the first Hague Trials, the little green men were in such fear of being unable to intercept communications from those which they did not control that they felt at-all-costs measures such as the creation of a world wide military force, amusingly named NATO, were not sufficient enough in their eyes. I find it of great sarcasm that the Eyes which numbered Five, then Eleven, and now Twenty-Four, are yet another of their projects.

That depends on one's definition of secret. In 2005 there were multiple red flag contacts during command station watches which were labeled above Ultra Violet classification to be immediately referred to blue, white, green hat & La Sia code transfers to stations & departments that were identified as AT&T and Ma Bell centers. Do you see the pattern here?

>>70177
Bob was one of the thousands of paid shill that did his job or else his family dies. If pressured: "he can do no wrong as he only knows what he knows", which is an immediate red flag as to whom owns his loyalty. Hubbard wrote scripts which are still used to this day with zero changes, Lazar was merely copying at the time.

>>71024
The Flying Pancake was considered "alien" as well when the German High Command was shown the schematics. They were even more dumbfounded when the prototype's hull was displayed. A common drone today would be seen as an invading extra-terrestrial robot by a person from 50 years ago. Consider that it only took 2 years to acquire enough financial backing for production of many captured German prototypes, then consider how long it took for others to begin noticing them. The "Nuclear Family" meme subsequently followed by the creation of the Silent (Beating) Generation of little green men were used as dissociative influences in order to prevent inquiry from the strange technologies suddenly appearing everywhere, and as a shield against the crimes committed against other humans. There is no such thing as positive propaganda.

>>79216
What is a 'system scale'? Solar system?
Little Green Men is /-\\rmy?
What are the coloured hats representing? I guess blue is sky, white is sea and green is land.
The pattern seems to be comms. 2005 is close to when N/-\\S/-\\ verified GEM. So experiments seem likely.
A gravity transmitter? http://www.searlsolution.com/members/documents/GravitoMagnetics-Superconductors.pdf
Flying Pancake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_V-173

>...and as a shield against the crimes committed against other humans. There is no such thing as positive propaganda.
At the end of the day we end up here: http://constitution.org/abus/mkt/cannon_controllers.pdf
And face the misery that we humans are despicable creatures. Not even animals manage this level of self-harm.

>>79216
There is another unrecognised player in this flying disc game. Nature herself can make flying discs. SOON. Because of the outlandishness of this claim I am researching every angle for flaws in my hypothesis. It seems both nature and man were making them in parallel and scientist culture intentionally failed to follow up a lead because it did not fit scientists narratives (that isn't science). This lead was a precursor to 1947 main event.

>>79259
Larger. Isn't a "country" also made up of the ocean boundaries it claims?

Yes. Whom is always the second on scene, the first to reach an objective on land? The more interesting question here is, why were they the first to commit betrayal? With enough indoctrination, anyone can be a mindless drone, yet what was their reasoning? "It was the easiest option." What were once cowards in uniforms created uniform cowardice for all to hide behind.

Now you see the references. Essentially yes, and even matches their attitude: "Can't touch us!" "Also can't touch us!" "We outnumber you, peon, don't even try it." Yellow presents cowardice as an optimal outlook for their numbers. One can only defend their own life for a short time before being brought down.

The original debuted in 1939, 3 years before the copy was "built".

By the way, your end of the contract is still broken. Ever considered long walks at moonlight?

>>79924
Heliopause, Oort cloud? You are too obscure.

I might have an answer to this coming. Nature made discs, they can shatter into foil all over farmers fields. These were a potential boon to aircraft design. Also if you pretend you have alien tech the Soviets might be less inclined to nuke you.
Maury Island incident is true as described by the witnesses, it fits my coming hypothesis.
A fair proportion of asteroids is magnesium (silicate), magnesium is a gas above 1091C. A meteor can reach 1700C, add in high spin and you get additional maintained heat. If it collides with planet Mercury along the way it experiences even higher temps and centrifugal rotations, and therefore separations of the various material components. Escaping gases can also make rotations. The silicate, with magnesium gas bubbles, forms an aerogel which can contain the heat inside the object. The object becomes a hot magnesium gas balloon of various shapes somewhat disk like. The iron can become magnetic, the silicate can become glass. It can drop molten material to regain buoyancy. This is what starts the spike in 1946 that peters out as time goes by. This also inspires the psyop because the public wen't to the ET hypothesis explanation. I am 50% through two sources of info, I am looking for aberrations that don't fit. Nothing yet. Then I'll do a detailed document. 1947 is too early for anyone to send hundreds or thousands of disc over the US and the world in a few weeks and then disappear. Some of these objects might still be in space and we run through them sometimes.

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What contract? Are we dating? If you tell me what the contract is then perhaps I can meet the contracts conditions?! If you won't say, I'll ignore it.

>>80326
The entire solar system, including the volatile, precious metals & materials heavily laden throughout multiple asteroid fields, the various moons of 2 certain planets, then there's the nearly incomparable, even more precious gases trapped in stable orbits. How difficult are those to mine in comparison to, let us say, near-volcanic conditions? The technologies to safely mine in zero oxygen environments are both readily available and relatively simple to mass produce. One might say that the cheapest component required here is human labor. Did you know that the United States census estimates per decade are incredibly, questionably wrong? One must consider what that means in a military context.

According to two colleagues in difficult to reach locations, your assertion has a strange, heightened merit. There is a nagging problem with the wide spread, seemingly mass distributions of disc-shaped objects appearing in the northern hemisphere. The resources of the top five countries post-WW2 could, at maximum, only account for a total of 110 aerial craft apiece in 1947 given the known postwar budget accounts. However, there may be a third negotiator in play for this problem; an answer to a question you posed earlier may relieve some of this burden.

As amusing as the suggestion sounds, not so much, Herr Vril. I deliver the goods regardless of their source. You pick them up and display them in public showcases for honest, logical examination. Care to trade wares? Khajiit has many goods to offer.

>>81587
Are you suggesting that the SSP is using G to communicate as they harvest the Solar System? Is that you Corey? Actually you remind me of William Lyne.

The hypothesis is piecing together quite well. I now have a method of generating the foil, and the disk domes. Rather than type a lot here I will attach the current chapter titles that I will use to organised my amassed data. This should give a fair over view of the evaluation so far.

>>81587
>I deliver the goods regardless of their source. You pick them up and display them in public showcases for honest, logical examination.

The one problem here is I am renovating a house, selling it and moving to a distant location. Once I am re-established I can build up an infrastructure suited to this. But I can't do it now because I am reducing everything in my live to zero to make the future move as simple as possible. The idea is good, the timing is bad. Sounds like fun later this year or next depending on how fate treats me.

Also here is an interesting piece of data. There is an asteroid (2004 TG10) that crosses Earth orbit twice a year (usually they cross only once) and it corresponds exactly with the 2 largest spikes in UFO reports over all years (minus 1947 aberration). 1 / ( 365 x 365 ) = .00000750609870519797 I'll use this to show how strongly meteors and UFOs correlate. The MöD discovered the same correlations. Waves seem to be when Nature joins in (at least early on). They also suggested a buoyant plasmas as causes of UFO reports and noted that science seems to not investigate this.

I would say my hypothesis is about 80% good so far. But I feel insane because I have wandered so far away from the "safety" of the herd. :)

>>81587
Okay I get it.

Gravity comms perturbs everything in the environment. Solar System wide comms would be monitorable by just watching the environment be perturbed. (You could use LIGO like devices to monitor.) Brilliant. My estimation of you has improved, that was very interesting info. There is more in what you say that I keep missing. But I'll keep pondering.

In 1947 naturally occurring flying discs flooded the Earth. The source may have been 2002 XM35 which may have collided with Mercury and peppered us with hot melted Mg/Si(O)/Fe blobs. In the heat and spin they sediment out. The inner chamber is Mg gas/plasma that makes buoyancy. But I am also interested in the 1946-1979 band of UFO reports ( >>70176 ), more on this in section #2 below.

One or more discs crash and are recovered. They are discovered to be natural but of great importance to advancing aircraft ideas. They also have the advantage of being a new psyop cover story on the public and the Soviets.

They story is embellished by adding fake bodies. And so by the 1950s the story is now crashed ETs. The UFO research societies are infiltrated and steered towards the ET hypothesis. This is to become the new belief system of the population to explain away their biological harvesting by the elite for their health and life extention.

This is techo-p1zzagate. This is alluded to in Cathy O'Briens book.

The ETs are the new cover story to replace succubus/incubii human harvesting done by humans on humans. This ties in well with almost everything even 411, the occult, succubii/incubii, Spring Heeled Jack, Jack the Ripper, cattle mutes, etc. etc.

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I have been looking into competing objects for the cause of the 1947 Mg/Si(O)/Fe blobs of molten meteors. I notice that Earth runs parallel to the orbital path of Comet 73P ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/73P/Schwassmann%E2%80%93Wachmann ) in May/June/July. So I investigated it. It was first discovered in 1930 and then went missing until 1979, "in 1995 it broke up"*. I found the 1979 August reappearance interesting since the general volume of UFO reports dropped 1979 January.

I wondered if 73P was the cause of the higher 1946-1979 UFO report base "noise level" and prior to 1979 its ordinary doing of that higher "noise level" was disrupted resulting in it stopping making UFO report "noise" in January 1979. The dynamics of that is hard to explain concisely so I wont. What I then did was I started looking in the supernova catalogs for events that might instead be a Comet 73P/asteroid collision. After some days I have found a likely event.

SN1976N ( https://sne.space/sne/SN1976N/ ) occurred in 1976 when 73P was predicted to be out near Jupiter orbit. But in Jupiter-like orbit is also the Jupiter Trojans ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_trojan ). 73P was in the Trojan field when SN1976N occurred. SN191976N was only discovered on photographic plates in 1979 so we only have that one photo of evidence. The photo was hand drawn and published but when I compare the marked "stars" with the known "stars" there are 4 additional objects. See pics (pics are messy as they are research pics, not publication pics).

The orbit was calculated by astronomers in 1930, but the calculations needed to be adjusted by 34 days/degrees when it was seen again in 1979. This matches well with a collision in 1976 and the location of 73P using 1930 data matches well with being at SN1976Ns location. So this collision has changed the comet's orbit and so ended the splattering of Earth at low levels from <1930 until 1976. However we have to add some time lag to tag us to January 1979 because it is the trailing debris that hits us. And that travels some years behind the comet itself.

The orbit of 73P takes 5.36 years and takes it through the asteroid belt (and the Trojans). As the debris enters the asteroid belt itself it gets cleaned up and that is why the clean up for UFO reports takes the extra 2.25 years.

* Astronomers saw the 73P breakup in 1995 but I now suspect it began in 1976. The drawing for 1976 seems to show 4 additional objects in the sky and in 1995 73P is observed to have 4 components. The 1976 view is a sideways view, the 1995 view is a front on view. If the 4 fragments are travelling in a train/line we see the most separation in a side view and the least separation in a head on view. Advances in technology explain why we did not see it broken until 1995. And we are very lucky that a observatory in Budapest was taking nightly photos of the sky.

This is still preliminary, I give it a 70% chance of being correct. The counter-argument is the background galaxy held a supernova'ing star but I need to research if it is too far away. Aside from this everything lines up too well and the 4 extra objects need explanation if it was a supernova.

A good case can be made for general UFO reports being natural, waves also being natural, discs being natural, and post-1947 ( >>29447 pic#3-4 ) these natural events have been leveraged to make a new belief system in the public's mind to mask the elites biological harvesting of the public. Succubii and ET abductions are the same human generated cover-up phenomena.

>>85155
The cover up is the opposite of ETI UFOs. The cover up is Natural UFOs and the cover is the false ET narrative. Because the public is gullible and excitable, it works and the elite conspirators can hide a little longer.

>>85159
Of course there are man-made discs, but in lower quantity than natural ones, especially during waves.

This severely changes the context of all UFO-like events in history including:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantell_UFO_incident
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles

Pics from Project Condign report.

For the record:

I am not feeling suicidal and I do intend to keep posting here.
If I disappear, THEY got me.

Vril.

P.S. What they had planned as your next belief system:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/08/the-long-strange-history-of-john-podestas-space-alien-obsession/

>>85218

Changing trip to more secure trip.

>>85220
Change done.

>>81587
>appearing in the northern hemisphere.

Reason 1:
I currently blame Comet 73P before 1976 break up for the (antiquity?)(1930s?)1946-1979 broad rise in UFO reports. Comet 73P comes in at 17deg above the ecliptic plane. It is biased towards having density between 17deg and 40deg above the equator. Pics.

Reason 2:
1947 wave happened when it was summer in northern hemisphere. The NH would get the densest and transformed meteors from the direction of sun onto the day side of the NH. Density would be at about 23deg above the equator. Last pic #4 and pic #1 @ >>67432

>>85575
pic corrections:
*maximum
*2002 XM35

1943:
>News of the “silver discs” spread fast. Later that day an update, “Additional Information on the Observation of Silvery Colored Discs On Mission To Stuttgart, 6 Sept. 1943,” was sent to 1st Bombardment Wing: “This observation was made by two crews of the 384th Group and was the only place it was noted. At this time from 2 to 4 FW190's or ME 109's and 1 JU 88 were flying 2 to 3000 feet above and a little ahead of our formation. These E/A were not seen to drop the material out. It came from above our A/C/. As to its shape, it was a mass of material, kept a good pattern, did not dissipate as it streamed down and fell comparatively slow. In one instance, the cluster appeared to be about 8 ft. in length and about 4 feet wide as it streaked down. Another observation stated it was about 75 feet long and 20 feet wide. These dimensions in length being the size from top to bottom as it fell. The cluster was composed of small round objects, silvery in color. In all instances, the objects fell in the path of our A/C. Some was observed to fall on the wing of a B-17 belonging to our group. The wing immediately started to burn. This a/c did not return. No further information available.”
...
>Finally, Chester notes that some bomber pilots actually stated clearly and unequivocally that German fighters “were dropping pie-plates” on them.

- Roswell and the Reich - Joseph P. Farrell ← Chester, Strange Company, p. 43, citing Confidential Memo, Attention: A-2 Duty Desk, First BW, Subject: Additional Information On the Observation fo Silvery Colored Discs on Mission To Stuttgart, 6 Sept., 1943. (National Archives and Records Administration). Chester also states “Note the different terminology used in the description of the objects. They are described initially as “discs,” but then “balls” within the same paragraph.”(p. 229)

BURNING MAGNESIUM BLOBS FROM SPACE! ARRRRRRGHHHHHHHhhh... why should the fun of killing in war be reserved for man alone??

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

>>85901
I've been slow at catching up on your posts, but I enjoy seeing them made. So yes I would like to know more.

>>85901
Yea, i like reading your ayy lmao posts.

>>85939
>>86021
You guys have been very kind. Let me share what I consider to be a close up witness report of these natural flying saucers. This report is considered by the USAF, the FBI, and UFO researchers as a hoax report. The witnesses themselves also end up stating that it was a hoax. The reason for this in my view is that everyone was looking for air/space craft. Either man-made or alien-made. It's been 60 years and there is no conclusive evidence that man or alien made them and flew them. They are still a mystery. So why witnesses claim it was a hoax? The witnesses tried to sell the story which did not work all they got for their trouble was everyone saying they were lying. In order to avoid further conflict and trouble they succumbed to pressure and and agreed that they lied. This then made everyone ignore them and leave them alone. But if you read the report, the report is insane if you want to make people think you saw a man-made or ET-made flying saucer. This report comes from Kenneth Arnold interviewing the main witness. Keneth Arnold is famous for seeing the discs also ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold ). Here is the report:

As I looked up from the wheel on my boat I noticed six very large doughnut-shaped aircraft. I would judge they were at about 2,000 feet above the water and almost directly overhead. At first glance I thought them to be balloons as they seemed to be stationary. However, upon further observance, five of these strange aircraft were circling very slowly around the sixth one which was stationary in the center of the formation. It appeared to me that the center aircraft was in some kind of trouble as it was losing altitude fairly rapidly. The other aircraft stayed at a distance of about two hundred feet above the center one as if they were following the center one down. The center aircraft came to rest almost directly overhead at about five hundred feet above the water.

All on board our boat were watching these aircraft with a great deal of interest as they apparently had no motors, propellers, or any visible signs of propulsion, and to the best of our hearing they made no sound. In describing the aircraft I would say they were at least one hundred feet in diameter. Each had a hole in the center, approximately twenty-five feet in diameter. they were all a sort of shell-like gold and silver color. Their surface seemed of metal and appeared to be burled because when the light s[h]one on them through the clouds they were brilliant, not all one brilliance, but many brilliances, something like a Buick dashboard. All of the aircraft seemed to have portholes equally spaced around the outside of their doughnut exterior.”

“These portholes were from five to six feet in diameter and were round. there also appeared to have a dark, circular, continuous window on the inside and bottom of their doughnut shape as though it were an observation window. All of us aboard there boat were afraid this center balloon was going to crash in the bay, and just a little while before it stopped lowering, we had pulled our boat over to the beach and got out with out harbor patrol camera. I took three or four photographs of these balloons.

The center balloon-like aircraft remained stationary at about five hundred feet from the water while the other five aircraft kept circling over it. After about five or six minutes one of the aircraft from the circling formation left it's place in the formation and lowered itself down right next to the stationary aircraft. In fact, it appeared to touch it and stayed stationary next to the center aircraft as if it were giving some kind of assistance for about three or four minutes.

It was then we heard a dull thud, like an underground explosion or a thud similar to a man stamping his heel on damp ground. Immediately following this sound the center aircraft began spewing forth what seemed like thousands of newspapers from somewhere on the inside of it's center. These newspapers, which turned out to be a white type of very light weight metal [magnesium], fluttered to earth, most of them lighting in the bay. It then seemed to hail on us, in the bay and over the beach, black or darker type metal which looked similar to lava rock [iron]. We did not know if this metal was coming from the aircraft but assumed that it was, as it fell at the same time that the white type metal was falling. However, since these fragments were of a darker color, we did not observe them until they started hitting the beach and the bay. All of these latter fragments seemed hot, almost molten. When they hit the bay, steam rose from the water [above 100C?].

We ran for the shelter under a cliff on the beach and behind logs to protect ourselves from the falling debris. In spite of our precaution, my son's arm was injured by one of the falling fragments and our dog was hit and killed. We buried the dog at sea on our return trip to Tacoma.”

“After this rain of metal seemed over, all of these strange aircraft lifted slowly and drifted out to the westward, which is out to sea. They rose and disappeared at a tremendous height. The center aircraft, which had spewed the debris, did not seem to be hindered in it's flight and still remained in the center of the formation as they all rose and disappeared out to sea.

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>>86025

(cont.)

We tried to pick up several pieces of the metal or fragments and found them very hot - in fact, I almost burned my fingers - but after some of them had cooled we loaded a considerable number of the pieces aboard the boat. we also picked up some of the metal which had looked like falling newspapers.

My crew and I discussed this observance for awhile and I attempted to radio from my patrol boar back to my base. The static was so great it was impossible for me to reach my radio station. This I attributed to the presence of these aircraft, as my radio had been in perfect operating order and the weather would not have causes this amount of interference [magnetic iron?].
…
I might add that these strange aircraft appeared completely round, but seemed a little squashed on the top and on the bottom as if you placed a large board on an inner tube and squashed it slightly. The film from our camera, developed, showed these strange aircraft, but the negatives were covered with spots similar to a negative that has been close to an x-ray room before it has been exposed except that the spots prints white instead of black as in the usual case.”

- Source: http://www.beamsinvestigations.org/The%20Coming%20of%20the%20Saucers%20%281952%29%20PDF%20Digital%20Edition%20%28July%202011%29.pdf

If that was a made up story of man-made saucers or alien saucers, it is insane and irrational. I discovered this detailed after I formulated my hypothesis about molten meteors. To say I was surprised when I decided to overlooked everyone saying this report was fake and read it for myself is an understatement. This report reads like what my hypothesis would expect. Notice the phenomena shows no signs of intelligent operation it appears to be at minimum malfunctioning or, as I would suggest a natural but rare phenomena.

The falling black rock is Iron(Nickel alloy), the "newspapers" are re-solidified, precipitated magnesium from the central former magnesium gas chamber. The windows are an effect of the 3 directions of rotation they had in space, and it leads to a even geometric sedimentation of the denser metal on the outside. If it glows hot it looks like internal lighting. It's hard to explain but think of the consequences of pitch, yaw, and roll spin all happening together in space and becoming harmonic and then how that would geometrically spread out the denser metal (iron and nickel) into "windows". The black rock/metal is the former Iron "hull" which got separated because meteoric iron nickel alloy goes brittle at high temperatures (and atmospheric shock it cracks off). These objects must still have some magnesium gas chambers unimploded. Whilst the magnesium gas chamber probably has no longer any magnesium gas, because it is now below 1091C (and has solidified and precipitated into magnesium foil), the chamber unbroken is a vacuum chamber now. This makes the object buoyant in the air. The material that fell reduced the mass of the object which allowed it to rise again. The dense material lost, and the light material kept (silicate, ie glass or quartz now; and the magnesium) make a light floating disc which visually has the shine of magnesium and the gloss of glass. If any of these crash people will find odd but ordinary non-spacecraft and will dismiss it as not being the cause of flying saucer - perpetuating the mystery. And ofcourse witness reports that don't fit human expectation are hoaxes.

Another disc found by someone who actually captured it:

>Case 211 – July 4, Hillsboro, Texas: An object about the size and shape of an ordinary saucer, that had not been seen in flight, was found in the garden of Bob Scott, a farmer living two and a half miles east of Hillsboro. Scott said that when he found it, “it was bright as a blow-torch, but it didn't burn me when I picked it up. I got to thinking about all these new inventions now-days, and it scared me. So I put it down. It sure didn't belong in my garden,” he added. He didn't mention the discovery until he met a friend, W. O. Kissick, and when the two of them went to investigate the object they found that it was disintegrating. Another friend, Joe Gerrick, of Hillsboro, also examined it and said that one of the remaining pieces “looked like tinfoil,” but when they picked it up “it appeared to be celluloid.” Whatever it was, most of it seemed to “have melted,” subliming into a gelatinous residue. The men contacted Hillsboro newsman Dan Shults, who also viewed the remains. “It was a dusty, silvery substance,” he reported. “I picked up some of the pieces and it wasn't like anything I'd ever seen before.” Unfortunately, it seems that none of the material was given to appropriate authorities for analysis.
- http://nicap.org/waves/Wave47Rpt/ReportOnWaveOf1947.pdf

What an amazing find for science! What shall we do with it? Make a newspaper story for it then forget and report it to know one! What will scientists do? Nothing, because they know the discs are just military things not meteors! What happened to this miraculous object? Who knows, no one cared. How wise are we? Not one bit. How humble are we? Not one bit.

Makes Roswell look completely different now?

>>85165
The green in the chart is nickel( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_meteorite ). Nickel is in meteors and meteoric iron is often iron nickel alloy. However with sufficient heat and rotation the denser nickel will be at the surface of the hull over the iron. It burns green.

See density and spectrum here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel

Where's viryl? I need to contact him.

>>87315
Hello.

>>81614
>>85155
If so then this would mean all issues with the Van Allen belts have been negated. Counterpoint: 29 trillion has gone missing since 1991. I have great doubts on this as a possibility though it is possible.

Outside of propaganda & widespread chemical usage in food/drink, since 1948 the average qualities of the following have rapidly degraded: quality of sleep, comprehension, logical decision making. In addition there are some papers questioning mass downswings in stable brain EM readings beginning in the late 1970's.

>>85575
Colleague's estimate: from 14,000 to 23,000 fragments, give or take 1,000. There is some low profile evidence which suggests that impacts in space caused by significant speed & force produces spherical wreckage rather than the typical breakup one would see in in vehicles & aircraft.

>>86025
>>86026
Watched a video during radar operation/sine diagnosing training detailing a metal-only battery in the early 1800's used for experiments. Magnesium plates were used in manners similar to both modern day transformers and capacitors, reducing or increasing voltage & amperage; frequently used in gravity rotation experiments too. NOT mere coincidence.

Case 211 is interesting yet strange. Rumors circulated of a self-destroying material captured in Japan used in many sensitive projects including Aurora 2 in 1997. Will look into this carefully.

>>87318
I need to discuss something with you, vyril.
Send me a mail so we can have some privacy.

>If so then this would mean all issues with the Van Allen belts have been negated.
Why would blobs of rock/metal care about Van Allen belts?

>Counterpoint: 29 trillion has gone missing since 1991.
As time goes by the man-made UFOs will increase in proportion to the natural UFOS. However the main focus of this investigation is 1947. If 1947 can be explained then we have the bedrock of UFOs sorted out. The rest is human activity on top. Human activity is larger post 1989 because:

1989: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian%20UFO%20wave
1989: “In 1989 Japanese scientists H. Hayasaka and S. Tackeuchi reported in a mainstream journal that a gyroscope spinning about a vertical axis in a vacuum experienced a small weight loss directly proportional to the rotation speed. The effect was observed only for rotation clockwise (as viewed from above in their northern hemisphere laboratory). The anomaly was buried in an avalanche of rushed criticism and flawed efforts to replicate the experiment.” “In 1997 Hayasaka’s team reported an experiment that confirmed their earlier findings: when a gyroscope was dropped 63 inches in a vacuum, between two laser beams, it took 1/25,000 second longer to fall this distance when spinning at 18,000 rpm clockwise (viewed from above), corresponding to a weight reduction of 1 part in 7000.” – http://davidpratt.info/gravity.htm ← H. Hayasaka and S. Tackeuchi, ‘Anomalous weight reduction on a gyroscope’s right rotations around the vertical axis on the earth’, Physical Review Letters, 63:25, 1989, pp. 2701-4; Gary C. Vezzoli, ‘Gravitational data during the syzygy of May 18, 2001 and related studies’, Infinite Energy (infinite-energy.com), 9:53, 2004, pp. 18-27 (p. 18). H. Hayasaka et al., ‘Possibility for the existence of anti-gravity: evidence from a free-fall experiment using a spinning gyro’, Speculations in Science and Technology, v. 20, 1997, pp. 173-81; keelynet.com/gravity/gyroag.htm.

1990: BAe University Round Table on Gravitational Research http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1990pruk.meet...26E they were scared that they missed a breakthrough and were anxious to uncover it.

1991: (ECE precursor) optically induced magnetic phenomena … inverse Faraday effect … spin B(3) field … electromagnetic fields are circularly polarised http://aias.us/documents/miscellaneous/ECE_and_Spacetime.pdf (Therefore we can (counter-)rotate atomic nuclei generating gravito-electromagnetism.)

1992: (GEM) “Shielding properties of single-phase dense bulk superconducting ceramics of YBa2Cu3O7-x against the gravitational force were studied at temperatures below 77 K [liquid nitrogen] . A small non-conducting and non-magnetic sample weighing 5.48 g was placed over a levitating superconducting disk and the loss of weight was measured with high precision using an electro-optical balance system. The sample was found to lose from 0.05 to 0.3% of its weight, depending on the rotation speed of the superconducting disk. Partial loss of weight might be the result of a certain state of energy which exists inside the crystal structure of the superconductor at low temperatures. The unusual state of energy might have changed a regular interaction between electromagnetic, nuclear and gravitational forces inside a solid body and is responsible for the gravity shielding effect.” - http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1992PhyC..203..441P (Podkletnov, Tampere Uni, Finland), 2004 video interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgyAFElQZcU

1992: In 1992, black project scientists disclosed to Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine that the B-2 electrostatically charges its exhaust to a high voltage and also charges the leading edge of its wing-like body to the opposite polarity. This information led Dr. LaViolette in 1993 to reverse engineer the B-2’s propulsion system. He proposed that the B-2 is essentially a realization of Townsend Brown’s patented electrogravitic aircraft. https://www.theorionproject.org/en/movingbeyond_laviolette.html

1994: Late. (ECE) Myron Evans … Inverse Faraday effect … EM as O(3) gauge invariant theory … radiatively induced fermion [quarks and leptons, probably quarks as they are affected by photons/light, quarks make up neutrons and protons] resonance (RFR). “In ECE theory gravitation is the curving of spacetime and electromagnetism is the spinning of spacetime. The two fields interact when curving and spinning interact.” http://aias.us/documents/miscellaneous/ECE_and_Spacetime.pdf Quark triad in neutron/proton is rotated to make spacetime vortexes.

1996: Spike in UK sightings (pic also >>85165 ) – Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK Air Defence Region: Executive Summary SCIENTIFIC & TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM - No. 55/2/00 --- which pushes the blame onto plasma meteors. Ironically true for non-black triangles, but the only natural black triangles I know of a comet/meteor fragments. Cases do match this. But this is sophistry, I suspect they know the original flying saucers were plasma based.

Free bonus: https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/12/secret-labs-and-strange-things-in-the-desert-my-truly-bizarre-email-exchange/

1996: (pic2) BREAKTHROUGH AS SCIENTISTS BEAT GRAVITY by Robert Matthews and Ian Sample, Article in Sunday Telegraph (UK), September 1, 1996, page 3.

1996: Searl Effect Commercialization project proposed and planned. http://www.searlsolution.com/johnsearl8.html

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>>87734

(cont.)

1997: (GEM) (pic1) Gravity Shield “A high-temperature YBa2Cu3O{7-x} bulk ceramic superconductor with composite structure has revealed weak shielding properties against gravitational force while in a levitating state at temperatures below 70 K. A toroidal disk was prepared using conventional ceramic technology in combination with melt-texture growth. Two solenoids were placed around the disk in order to initiate the current inside it and to rotate the disk about its central axis. Samples placed over the rotating disk initially demonstrated a weight loss of 0.3-0.5%. When the rotation speed was slowly reduced by changing the current in the solenoids, the shielding effect became considerably higher and reached 1.9-2.1% at maximum.” - http://lib-arxiv-008.serverfarm.cornell.edu/abs/cond-mat/9701074 9701074v3.pdf (Podkletnov, Moscow Chemical Scientific Research Centre)

1998: TR-3A and TR-3B https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO)#TR-3A_Black_Manta

2003: Einstein–Cartan–Evans theory (ECE thought up) , patents “electromagetism is the torsion [that can be applied to atomic nuclei] and gravity the curvature of spacetime”, http://aias.us/documents/miscellaneous/ECE_and_Spacetime.pdf applied to an atomic nucleus this then causes Gravitoelectromagnetism which can cause atomic anti-gravity, see 1991

2005: 2005 BAE Systems closes Project Greenglow - “BBC Horizons: Project Greenglow” TV documentary (2016)

2006: European Space Agency believe they may have measured the gravitational equivalent of a magnetic field http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Preparing_for_the_Future/Discovery_and_Preparation/Towards_a_new_test_of_general_relativity/(print)

2011: NASA proves Einstein Frame-dragging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame-dragging

2012: Device and method to produce gravitomagnetic induction, mass spin-valve or gravitational rectifier https://patents.google.com/patent/US9318031B2/en

There is a fairly smooth timeline here. If you can control the atomic nucleus via light or EM you can make the super-dense nucleus affect spacetime, including warp it. Where ever the nucleus doth go, the atoms/craft is sure to follow. Some nuclei have intrinsic spin that can't be thwarted. What happens if you leverage that?? What happens if you remove thermal jitter and align their rotational axis??

>>87633
>Colleague's estimate: from 14,000 to 23,000 fragments, give or take 1,000. There is some low profile evidence which suggests that impacts in space caused by significant speed & force produces spherical wreckage rather than the typical breakup one would see in in vehicles & aircraft.

A meteor impact can reach up to 2370C on Earth, and that is with "aero-braking". Imagine this without any air resistance. In addition space (Mercury has no atmosphere) is a thermal insulator. The only way to lose heat is radiation. Convection and conduction isn't available. After these collisions the rock is completely molten to such an extent that the elements separate from the compounds and then "sediment out" by density. See table.

Sources:

1) , 2) https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/earth-atmospheric-and-planetary-sciences/12-570-structure-and-dynamics-of-the-cmb-region-spring-2004/lecture-notes/lec6_1.pdf (structure)
3) https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-1-4020-5075-6%2F1.pdf
4) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_dioxide
5) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032063300000544
6) , 7) https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2966.2009.15459.x

>>87633
>Watched a video during radar operation/sine diagnosing training detailing a metal-only battery in the early 1800's used for experiments. Magnesium plates were used in manners similar to both modern day transformers and capacitors, reducing or increasing voltage & amperage; frequently used in gravity rotation experiments too. NOT mere coincidence.

Because man does something does not mean nature can't do something or even something else. It is a false dichotomy to argue between nature and man in this. Both are players in this. But man isn't a player in 1947, he is inspired by 1947 to start playing in 1952. Because the public psyop'ed themselves which is just exactly what the CIA etc likes, and it provides cover in a way the public already showed itself to be gullible for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtar_(extraterrestrial_being)

>>87633
>Case 211 is interesting yet strange. Rumors circulated of a self-destroying material captured in Japan used in many sensitive projects including Aurora 2 in 1997. Will look into this carefully.

I recall that the FBI investigated many UFO models. I have not looked closer but if this molten meteor idea is correct they will report a nondescript disk which is passed off as a child's toy or model and forgotten. It isn't the FBIs job to think up weird science. That's my job. :P

Is my idea challenging your preconceived notions? It's always exciting when that happens to a researcher!

The same short-sightedness happened in 1946 with the ghost rockets: See pics.
Source: http://www.cufos.org/UFO_History_Gross/1946_Ghost_Rockets_3EDR.pdf

The evidence continues to mount on the side of my hypothesis. I especially like the soap bubble!!

>>87633
>This daylight activity continued throughout July and August [1947], and comparison with the known major showers indicates that it is without precedent in extent and duration.

Title: The Daylight Meteor Streams of 1947 May-August
Authors: Clegg, J. A., Hughes, V. A., & Lovell, A. C. B.
Journal: Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Vol. 107, p.369
Bibliographic Code: 1947MNRAS.107..369C

http://adsbit.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?1947MNRAS.107..369C&defaultprint=YES&filetype=.pdf

Why daylight? I propose because 2002 XM35 hit Mercury is 1946. Mercury is close to the sun always.

Should I stop?

>>87689
mail to? Send a public key or we can use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocat

>>87633
Thermite reactions in molten meteors:
>Thermites have diverse compositions. Fuels include aluminium, magnesium, titanium, zinc, silicon, and boron. Aluminium is common because of its high boiling point and low cost. Oxidizers include bismuth(III) oxide, boron(III) oxide, silicon(IV) oxide, chromium(III) oxide, manganese(IV) oxide, iron(III) oxide, iron(II,III) oxide, copper(II) oxide, and lead(II,IV) oxide.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

How will the gaseous Mg act in the molten meteors in space?
>Without buoyancy, the vapor produced by boiling simply floats as a bubble inside the liquid after the heating has stopped. Surface tension effects cause the many small bubbles produced to coalesce into one large sphere. (pic)
- https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast07sep_2/

And to go over the top:

>Iron-magnesium-silicate perovskite may be slightly buoyant while above 60GPa. [600,000,000HPa or 600,000 atmospheres]
-- MELTING OF IRON-MAGNESIUM-SILICATE PEROVSK1TE by Jeffrey S. Sweeney and Dion L. Hein (10.1029/93GL00556) https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/93GL00556

Superconductor effect? (25Mg is 5/2+ spin and 10% naturally occurring in all of Mg) or magnesium plasma/gas?

>>87740
Never Stop, we Ahnenerbe now

>>87744
>>87743
Did the SS have anything on Aliens?

>>87745

Always be wary of "leaked documents" to UFO researchers. This is how you distract UFO researchers. Remember people looking for UFO answers want to find particular answers, not objective research, when you "leak" to them what they want to see they fall for it every time. I propose above that we have constantly been shown that the 1946-7 flying saucers were molten space rocks. And each time we found those molten space rocks we ignored them because we expected Nazi/Soviet/US aircraft.

Quote about a 1930s "crashed" saucer in Italy:

RS/33 cabinet

The Cabinet RS / 33 is according to a group of Italian ufologists a presumed structure created by Benito Mussolini in 1933 with the fall on June 13 of the same year in Lombardy of a UFO , unidentified flying object. The spaceship would have fallen between Milan and Varese , the occupants and the aircraft would have been transported to Vergiate , in the SIAI-Marchetti workshops.

The letters R and S stand respectively for Searches and specials. Roberto Pinotti , president of the National Ufological Center (CUN) says that the documents concerning the existence of this program have been sent anonymously to the Center itself. Pinotti wrote various books and articles on the subject.

The institution would have been composed of illustrious scientists of the time led by Guglielmo Marconi with the aim of studying the new phenomena. The RS / 33 cabinet would have worked from 1933 to 1941 under the cover of Benito Mussolini , Italo Balbo and Galeazzo Ciano and under the protection of the OVRA , to avoid the leak of information and otherwise start a debunking , despite this protection, in the 1941 , the data collected by the fascist team were taken by GESTAPO , for the start of a similar Nazi program.

In 1941 Nazi Germany set off a research program, dedicated to the study and construction of these non-conventional aircraft , such as the RS / 33 Cabinet, the technicians supported the hypothesis that these aircraft were part of a secret paraphernalia of the Allies ; the confirmation of the study of these aircraft by the Nazis, was given by the pilot Rudolph Schriever , the Milanese engineer Giuseppe Belluzzo and Andrea Epp .

Among the alleged weapons developed by the fascist team, we can mention the Ray of death (electronic weapon studied superficially by Guglielmo Marconi ), the flying wing, when the program passed to GESTAPO , were developed the V-7 (circular transport) , traded for Ufo for their form after the 50s .

Some of the alleged members of the RS / 33 cabinet were:

Filippo Bottazzi surgeon and experimental biologist of the University of Naples
Gaetano Arturo Crocco aeronautical engineer founder of the Italian company Razzi
Pietro Romualdo Pirotta botanico of the La Sapienza University of Rome
Francesco Severi, mathematician, teacher at the Sapienza University of Rome and at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences.
Giancarlo Vallauri, teacher of electrotechnics and academic ferromagnetism of the Lincei
Francesco Giordani chemist at the University of Naples
Dante De Blasi, a medical hygienist of the universities of Naples and Rome

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ufopedia.it%2FGabinetto_RS%2F33.html

See also:
https://web.archive.org/web/20050218033457/http://www.cun-italia.net/fasfile/fafil03.htm (pics >>755 )
https://atlantisrisingmagazine.com/article/mussolinis-roswell/ (full story in English)

>>87746
thanks for the links the archive gives me a 502 error though. what i don't understand is why Il Duce would keep it a secret.

Don't let them get you, anon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeKJd5rfqi0
Watch the skies!

>>87633
>Case 211 is interesting yet strange. Rumors circulated of a self-destroying material captured in Japan used in many sensitive projects including Aurora 2 in 1997. Will look into this carefully.

Perhaps this is a thermite reaction. The central magnesium is stealing the oxygen from the silicate. The silicate is acting as thermal insulation like glass fibre batts. The surface silicate/glass/quarts is sealed due to xerogel properties which collapses the openings on the outside. The air friction could have helped this. With the magnesium plasma/gas condensed, between the fibres of silicate, is vacuum, a thermal insulator. This makes it superior to house thermal insulation. Therefore the witness picked up a objected undergoing thermite reaction temperatures. Neat!

Comet 73P was known to flare up in brightness and then disappear. I am suspicious that its constant asteroid belt pass-throughs leads to a slow process of melting -> centrifugal sedimentation -> thermite reaction initiation -> comet outburst.

See:
http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/iauc/06200/06246.html for 73P surprising outbursts.
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Rosetta/Rosetta_captures_comet_outburst
(pics)

>>87633
>Case 211 is interesting yet strange.

Have another:

>Case 383 -- July 6, near Pocatello, Idaho: H. C. McLean, a touring Seattle resident driving through Pocatello, reported by letter to the local paper that he had seen a small disc float slowly to the ground in front of his car just after dawn. He described the disc as about two or three feet in diameter, "about the size of a wagon wheel." It came down on edge, like a wheel in the road. "Something held it upright," he reported, and then moved it forward in "a series of short jerks," each move carrying it a foot or two further. "In the middle of the disc," McLean wrote, "I could made out a bulge, as if a plate had been welded onto the disc, and there were two narrow strips of metal running almost parallel to each other above and below this mid-section." The edge of the disc was surrounded by a tube that had a funnel-like opening at one end, "set into the disc's rim so that the latter could roll freely." After having moved ahead about 20 yards, the object "rose easily and at once began to climb. I examined the place where the disc had landed but it touched the ground so lightly that it left no mark. I am convinced that the disc's flight was controlled, that it gave out signals indicating its position, and that it is harmless."

- http://nicap.org/waves/Wave47Rpt/ReportOnWaveOf1947.pdf

>>88084
>Case 399 -- July 6, Kansas City, Kansas: Miss Barbara Mehner, of 2309 South Glenwood Avenue, in the Intercity District, said she was playing baseball on a field near U.S. Highway 24 when a small, grey disc flew around her. "I was facing west when something flew in from the side," she said. "It was dark grayish, about five inches across and flying two feet from the ground. It flew around me several times, then flew off south a short distance, came back and circled me three or four more times. Then it disappeared."

Ummm...

>>88084

>Case 501 -- July 6, Towanda, Pennsylvania: A close-up observation of two small "objects" was described by Mrs. A. C. Smith, who saw them hovering 20 feet above the ground. For a period of two minutes, they "bobbed about, merged together, and separated," she said, be fore they finally soared into the sky. According to Mrs. Smith, the discs were about six to eight inches in diameter and appeared to be "saucers of intense light." She did not believe they were solid objects.

Case 603 -- July 7, Gettysburg, Pennsylvania: Eight Gettysburg College couples reported seeing two flights of small objects at low altitude while they were on a Sigma Chi fraternity picnic near the Pennsylvania Monument on the historic battleground. About 3:30 p.m. EDT, five or six small, grey, shiny discs drifted eastward overhead at moderate speed, appearing to roll on edge as they flew. A few minutes later another group of six similar objects flew over in the same direction.

>"Each time they were traveling in two distinct groups," said Frank Toms, a senior at the College. He estimated the size of the discs at six inches in diameter. They appeared to be at an altitude of "about 150 to 200 feet above the ground," he added. Among the witnesses present was Peter John, a sophomore from Camden, New Jersey.

>Case 853 -- July 30, Tamarack, Idaho: John E. Ostrom, of Nyssa, Oregon, was driving an Army truck from Council to McCall, Idaho, on Route 95. At 4:00 p.m. MST, in the vicinity of Tamarack, he suddenly saw a small, silver, ball-like object approaching his truck head-on at a downward angle of about 30 degrees. As he instinctively covered his face with his hands, the baseball-sized object glanced off the roof of the cab, just above the windshield.

>He brought the truck to a halt several hundred yards down the highway and got out to see what damage had been done. The point of contact was perfectly clear, and the metal of the roof of the cab, just above the windshield, appeared to have be en "melted" as if "by some terrific heat." Experts examining the damaged spot later, about the size of a silver dollar, said that it had the appearance of having been "welded," but Ostrom denied there had been any welding and insisted that the damage had been done by a small flying object.

Death to miniature space aliens!!

>>88085
Maybe the ships can shrink?

>>88242
>1950: “In The Ethership Mystery and Its Solution Layne [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meade_Layne ] says: “In spite of a policy and an unofficial censorship, it is widely believed by this time that a number of ether ships of the disk type have landed in the United States, through accident of some kind. We have no reports that any of the `dwarf' occupants survived the landing, and we are told that the propulsion and control of these craft is very much of a puzzle to scientists who have inspected them. They are said to be without motors, propellers, or anything recognizable as a drive mechanism. This suggests, of course, some kind of magnetic propulsion. And the performance of these crafts, their extraordinary speed, power and maneuverability far outclasses anything our own engineers have been able to achieve.” – Scully (1950) ← "The Ether Ship Mystery and Its Solution" [ https://borderlandsciences.org/project/etheria/mimeo/esm/index.html ] (1950). Also from same BSRA article: “It is probably well known by this time, that several of these ether ships have fallen, and their contents carefully studied – although with utmost secrecy. We cannot enter here upon this part of, which has been printed in other BSRA publications; we wish to refer only to the “little people”, dwarfs about 30 inches in height, whose bodies were found within the Discs.”

>1950: “To the ribaldry attending testimony that the crews of flying saucers were dwarfs or little people, a doubt which even Associate Hayes shares, the Borderland Sciences Research Associates advanced a solution. In fact, they advanced two. One was that the Etherians suffer shrinkage when they and their craft penetrate into this atmosphere too rapidly. The other was they chose to materialize in small forms “simply for convenience of operation and flight.” – Scully (1950) https://www.scribd.com/doc/3927939/BEHIND-THE-FLYING-SAUCERS-Frank-Scully-134-pp-ebook

What laws of physics allow shrinking?

>>88377
some advanced technology.

>>86026
>foil

I have a new idea for the foil. The Mg plasma/gas will thermite react with the silicate abd steal its oxygen. The Mg becomes MgO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_oxide and the silicate becomes elemental Silicon metal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon . And the interesting consequence here is that Si looks exactly like foil, even when a blob.

Which removes the need to deal with the assumption of wafers of metal.

Silicon's spectrum is very bright and accross the spectrum and so would burn in the atmosphere when traveling at speed as bright white.

So the process would be, loose the Iron(Nickel alloy) through shock (slag, slag everywhere >>87738 >>86025 ), burn away the silicate, burn the silicon (bright white), burn the magnesium (bright white) >>85165 .

Natural hot insulated meteors according to scientists:

>Important parameters in such thermal models include the initial abundances of heat-producing short-lived radionuclides (26Al and 60Fe), which are determined by the accretion timescale and the terminal size, chemical composition and physical properties of the chondritic planetesimals.

>Results: Our new model demonstrates that in initially porous planetesimals heating to central temperatures sufficient for melting can occur for bodies a few km in size, that is, a factor of ≈10 smaller than for compact bodies. Furthermore, for high initial 60Fe abundances small bodies may differentiate ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_differentiation ) even when they had formed as late as 3-4 Ma after CAI formation.
...
>The model starts with a porous body that is later compacted first by "cold pressing" at low temperatures and then by "hot pressing" for temperatures above ≈700 K, i.e., the threshold temperature for sintering ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering ) of silicates.
...
> These burial depths are shallower than those derived in previous models. This reflects the strong insulating effect of the residual powder surface layer, which is characterised by a [u]low thermal conductivity.[u]
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012A%26A...537A..45H

So we have 3 sources of heat: radioactive, solar, atmospheric entry.
We have 3 sources of sealing the silicate: sintering by solar heating, sintering by atmospheric entry, and xerogel cavity collapse as the Mg moves/evaporates into the core. Sintering occurs at 700K which is 447C and 2002 XM35 got close enough to the sun to reach 527C ( >>87736 ).

It's getting easier and easier to make this work.

High Si/Mg content meteors:

>The lines commonly observed in meteor spectra belong to Fe, Na, Mg, Ca, Cr, and Mn. In good spectra the lines of A1, Si, Ti, Co, and Ni are observable. Lines of O and N originate in the atmosphere.
...
>The meteor EN 041089 was observed on October 4, 1989, 23:33 UT. The meteoroid of original mass of about 0.7 kg was completely destroyed in the atmosphere. The spectrum of this meteor is unique in our sample by the low intensity of the Na line and high intensity of the Mg line. It was found that the Na/Fe ratio was at least seven times lower than in other meteors and the ratios of Mg, Si, and Cr to Fe at least twice as high. This is consistent with the composition of diogenites.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1994Metic..29R.446B

>Diogenites are composed of igneous rocks of plutonic origin, having solidified slowly enough deep within Vesta's crust to form crystals which are larger than in the eucrites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenite

>>88621
Silicon density: 2.57 g/cm3
Aluminium density: 2.70 g/cm3

A casual assessment could not distinguish silicon (foil) from aluminium (foil).

>>88621 (You)

Mg - 1.738g/cm3 - 1.584 g/cm3 when liquid (650C)
SiO2 - 2.648 (α-quartz), 2.196 (amorphous)
Si - 2.70 g/cm3 - 2.57 g/cm3 when liquid (1414C)
Fe - 7.874g/cm3 - 6.98 g/cm3 when liquid (1538C)

Silicon and silicate density is close. It could mix and lead to the scintilating effects: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting

Fe/Ni magnetic properties:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permalloy
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu-metal

Light weight objects and orientation to the Earth's or local magnetic field could affect the Mg plasma, routing the Mag field either around the plasma in one orientation and through the plasma in another orientation -> sudden acceleration.

>Each had a hole in the center, approximately twenty-five feet in diameter. they were all a sort of shell-like gold and silver color. Their surface seemed of metal and appeared to be burled because when the light s[h]one on them through the clouds they were brilliant, not all one brilliance, but many brilliances, something like a Buick dashboard.
>>86025

Silicon foil: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Pictures-of-the-4x4cm-2-silicon-foil-with-the-removal-of-the-epoxy-layer-a-and-its_fig1_236754019

The gold is the silica glass.

How beautiful is silicon????!

Case 501 -- July 6, Towanda, Pennsylvania: A close-up observation of two small
"objects" was described by Mrs. A. C. Smith, who saw them hovering 20 feet above
the ground. For a period of two minutes, they "bobbed about, merged together, and
separated," she said, be fore they finally soared into the sky. According to Mrs. Smith,
the discs were about six to eight inches in diameter and appeared to be "saucers of
intense light." She did not believe they were solid objects.

>>88764
So obviously these >>88764 can't be solid. So they must be plasma or magnetic fields.

...
>The spectrograph revealed that the main elements in the ball were the same as those found in the soil: silicon, iron and calcium. The observations support a theory for making ball lightning put forth in 2000 by John Abrahamson at the University of Canterbury in New Zealand.
Gold dust

>Abrahamson surmised that when lightning hits the ground, the sudden, intense heat can vaporise silicon oxide in the dirt, and a shockwave blows the gas up into the air. If there’s also carbon in the soil, perhaps from dead leaves or tree roots, it will steal oxygen from the silicon oxide, leaving a bundle of pure silicon vapour. But the planet’s oxygen-rich atmosphere rapidly re-oxidises the hot ball of gas, and this reaction makes the orb glow briefly.

>The theory garnered support in 2006, when scientists at Tel Aviv University in Israel were able to create ball lightning in the lab by firing mock lightning at sheets of silicon oxide. The event in China marks the first time such an orb has been captured in nature with scientific instruments.
...
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24886-natural-ball-lightning-probed-for-the-first-time/

Hello, silicon, we meet again. So lets have magnesium steal the silicon's oxygen (thermite), and then have silicon steal oxygen from the air. But how is it bound together?

>Scientists bound the magnetic fields of a supercooled quantum object into a complex knot. And what they found may have finally solved the centuries-old riddle of ball lightning, luminous orbs that sometimes linger in the atmosphere during thunderstorms.

>That bizarre knot was a quantum object called a "Shankar skyrmion" that was first theorized in 1977, but that no one had ever managed to generate in a lab. A skyrmion is a tightly clustered group of circular magnetic fields, with each circle crossing each other circle exactly once, the researchers explained in a paper published March 2 in Science Advances.
...
> Back in 1996, a paper published in Nature proposed that ball lightning might be the result of the magnetic fields around the plasma of a lightning bolt curling into a knot and trapping it within, and proposed a model for what those knotted fields might look like.

>The researchers reported that the fields they observed around their cold little skyrmion matched the model proposed in that paper, suggesting that hot ball lightning may, in fact, be a giant, naturally occurring skyrmion.
https://www.livescience.com/61946-ball-lightning-quantum-particle.html

>Observation of the Optical and Spectral Characteristics of Ball Lightning
>Ball lightning (BL) has been observed with two slitless spectrographs at a distance of 0.9 km. The BL is generated by a cloud-to-ground lightning strike. It moves horizontally during the luminous duration. The evolution of size, color, and light intensity is reported in detail. The spectral analysis indicates that the radiation from soil elements is present for the entire lifetime of the BL.
>(pic1)
>https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.112.035001
and
>(pic2)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

Look at all that Iron and Silicon!

And there is something going on with cold plasmas that I haven't worked out yet.
>Thermodynamic and kinetic properties of nonideal Rydberg matter
>As a result, it has been found that an increase in the nonideality parameter is accompanied by a change in the structure of such a system from gas to crystal like. The lattice parameter in the latter case is equal to the mean distance.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S0021364010210125

...
>This does not mean that there were no reports of occupants in 1947. Local newspapers published at least three accounts of small beings associated with "flying saucers" that year. An elderly woman reported the first incident, at Webster, Massachusetts on June 19. She had seen from her window a "moon-sized" object fly nearby with a "slender" figure inside dressed in what appeared to be a Navy uniform (2). On July 7, during a flurry of object sightings at Tacoma, Washington, residents of the Center and J Street neighborhood, Gene Gamachi, I.W. Martenson, and others, told of seeing a number of objects, some of which landed on nearby roofs. Witnesses saw several "little people" who disappeared upon the arrival of newsmen (3). On July 8, during a concentration of sightings all over Texas, an unidentified merchant seaman in the Acres Home suburb of Houston observed the landing of a "silver saucer." From it emerged a dimunitive pilot no more than two feet tall with a round head "the size of a basketball" who greeted the seaman, re-entered his vehicle, and took off (4) .
...
2. Worcester (Mass.) Daily Telegram, July 7, 1947, p. 1.
3. Tacoma (Wash.) News Tribune, July 8, 1947.
4. Houston (Texas) Post, July 9, 1947, p. 1.
http://www.cufos.org/books/Close_Encounter_at_Kelly.pdf

So we have some small humans from twinning mixed in.

43 humanoid cases from 1947. So much for no flying disc pilots in 1947.
https://studylib.net/doc/8063719/1-albert-rosales-catalogue-of-humanoid-cases-1965

>>67308
Afternon, what if the hands are actually a device to put magnetic fields in her temporal lobes to cause her to hallucinate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet

Interesting rabbit hole to fall down.

>>88770
>>88804
>>89162
Can being in the presence of an EM field (from a plasma object) cause hallucinations? Yes, see video.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Persinger

>>87734
Such blobs would not care. The effects of extensive radiation do not deform protons, ions, etc. in metals. No effect, at least until:

>>87736
Collision suspicions confirmed. Sedimentary divergences of spaceborne materials create debris clusters; specific debris clusters magnetically attracted to certain planets. Majority of spherical impacts are natural, implications used to further division & infiltration tactics. "They played us like a damned fiddle!"

>>87738
>>87742
>>88080
>>88084
>>88085
Answers confirm suspicions of principle materials deliberately utilized in "sensitive" testing designs for rapid incineration/destruction methods. Aurora 1 thermal-skin pieces recovered from crash in northern Texas desert 1985. Known material compositions: thermally responsive semi-synthetic resins, silicon, "allotropic" iron, whatever that means. Later results released or destroyed. Colleagues of others wanted in, didn't have safety net. Lost contact in 2015. What important extra-planetary events happened during that year?

No notions are allowed to be preconceived until 99.9% proof is acquired. A failure in linking information together is attributed to: research failure, false information, research failure, lack of discovery, carelessness, personal fault. Constant, unusual space debris impacts show no evidence of non-terrestrial sapient life. Zero evidence = zero tolerance.

>>88770
>>89162
Pre-Star Wars era technologies in use, most created in 1950's. Post-Star Wars era examples mentioned before, used often by La Sia, no information to compare to at current. Top 3 suspects: Project Skyhaven, Operation Midnight Broadcast, 17th Naval Intelligence. Short list, few "survivors".

>>88770
Forced eugenics insanity. True natural selection superior, no erratic mutations, permanent genetic diseases. "Gene editing" new craze, now in use among rich circles. Irony: Futureland does not seem so bad to me now.

>>89585
Consider Tesla & Vril Societe` experiments in EMF research refusing to test on biologically living matter. No 'happy accidents' allowed. What did/do they know that we do not? "Black Box Tower" stations across north America & Europe. Mass subject testing without public knowledge/supervision. Recently came across article related to designer in 1920's, built anti-waveform/anti-sonic screen to incorporate into Faraday Cage for precision experiments. Did it work? None know, design was stolen by Jew-S agents after death.

The more I learn, the less empathy I care to acknowledge.

>>89585
i had a strange dream, i went outside on my porch and i looked up to the western sky and i saw 4 sun like ball objects in the sky about 100 feet away from me, and they all combined into one massive sun like ball. then i "lost conciseness" and after i came toi was still dreaming i thought to myself "my seed will be useful to them." was that a dream or a repressed memory?

>>89600
>Collision suspicions confirmed.
Wheee! So I am no longer alone in my "insanity"! Do they know or suspect 2002 XM35 (or the parent body of) hit Mercury? There is unfortunately no data on 1946 Mercury monitoring. There is a 10 year study that ended in 1945 but as you can see they can bearly make out what is going on on Mercury due to its proximity to the sun. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1947PA.....55..137H There is good data to suspect something happened in space before 1947 >>87739 .

An unexpected additional piece of information has been found to further support that 1947 was somewhat meteor/space based event. Whilst looking at old Persinger publications (he was originally very much like Charles Fort, cataloging paranormal events with an IBM 360-40! What a nerd!), Persinger pointed out that when the moon was about 1/4 full there were extra meteors reported. Finding the paper showed that this occurs when the moon was at either or the two 40% full part of its phases. When looking at how that relates to the 1947 June/July flying discs it is either side of the main events. (pics #1 and #2):

1947-06-24/25 is 40% waxing moon. This is the first bump. (the 27/28 bump is still unidentified.)
1947-07-03 is full moon, moon rise ~8pm, set ~5am. Moon-Earth-Sun(Mercury) alignment. Extra gravitational pull?
1947-07-04 Peak #1 (This also coincides with Earth crossing orbital path of 2004 TG10 who also did a Mercury fly-by; pic#3 here, and >>81615 pic#1 )
1947-07-07 Peak #2 (Unknown object but fits within the expected 2002 XM35 children objects which I suggest are the result of a Mercury fly-by also >>78826 )
1947-07-12 is 40% waning moon. Small bump at the end of the main event.

It is bothersome that there are two Mercury impact/flyby possibilities. It seems incredibly unlikely that 2 objects would hit Mercury such that both would send molten blobs to Earth within 3 days of each other. This needs to be examined much deeper. The individual reports need to be classified into Vallee categories and then sorted to see if the character of the 4th and 7th reports are slightly different. I would expect one will show a preferences for fly-bys and the other for hovering and speed/direction changes. I have categorized about 500 of 853 reports so far. It is a very tedious ongoing task.

(pic#1)
-- http://nicap.org/waves/Wave47Rpt/ReportOnWaveOf1947.pdf

>“A most remarkable relation exists between incoming meteor rates and lunar phases (Bowen, 1963); apparently peak meteor rates occur around first and third quarter.”
-- Space-Time Transients and Unusual Events by Michael Persinger (1977)

>(pic#2)
-- Bowen, E. G. (1963). A lunar effect on the incoming meteor rate. Journal of Geophysical Research, 68(5), 1401–1403. doi:10.1029/jz068i005p01401

At this point I think most of the shape of the sighting reports stats can be accounted for by astronomical causes.

The source of "alien" experiences is not limited to men in Hollywood costumes, it can also be from hallucinations by being in proximity to plasma giving off fluctuating EM fields. My research has shown (Persinger, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilder_Penfield ) that it is not the intensity of the EM field that causes hallucinations (See clock radio and Persinger saying it gave off the correct type of EM signal >>89585 ), it is the character of the EM fields. Small EM fields, of the correct protocol, can cause involuntary dreaming (recollection of subconscious iconography and memory) in an awake witness to such a degree that it overlays the 5 senses input. You dream while awake. It seems the memory/iconography has to exist in the mind first and is then triggered after. You asked before about the ability to play-back visual events to a victim, I had speculated that this could be done via the eyes, but it seems you could remotely provoke dreams, that is, iconography and memory from the subconscious.

Therefore if you populate the public's mind with iconography and then record the brain signals of a person experiencing it (acting it out) you can then broadcast the correct signals later to replay it from the subconscious of other victims who also have those icons in their mind (from TV shows/movies).

The subsconscious does not seem to store fine details. So facial features are very difficult but vague things like how a dress hangs are easy. So things that obscure the face are common. Helmets and simplified "grey alien" faces are obvious ways to do this.

This extends also to ghosts. Persinger has shown in his research that ghost sightings occur during seismic stress (piezo-electric effect) and geomagnetic disturbance (sun). The same occurs with people who have Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. These events make susceptible people more conscious of their subconscious imagery. Because the predominant concern of a person going through the death of a loved one, is the loved one, they will then see the loved one overlaid on real perception when they are affected by the appropriate EM field. This is ghosts. The sense of a presence is the sensing of the EM field itself. People who are subject to this effect all the time are considered schizophrenic, insane, etc.

It would seem that nature is attempting to find the right balance between making us too aware of magnetic fields (as a type of 6th sense) and have us filter them out. And so people have a range of sensitivity from none (skeptics never see/feel anything) to full (insane) and in between is all of the rare paranormal. In addition nature is using this as a recovery mechanism for us dealing with the death of those we love, and our own death awareness. By allowing this malfunction of the brain people achieve happiness "knowing" life after death exists. So a part of our evolution includes brain malfunction in EM fields to make death less traumatic and to inspire continuing living.

(cont.)

>>89600
(cont.)

Having said >>89607 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stevenson#Reception work still exists, and I have experienced apports ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apport_(paranormal) ) myself so we can't completely rule out the paranormal as hallucinations. But Nature is under no obligation to keep us happy and alive with truths alone, anything that works will propagate.

>>89607
>3rd image
Sorry to go off topic, but do you know what software that is?

>>89671
https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi
Type an object in the search box. You may get a list returned. Select one of them. On the next page click "Orbit Diagram".

Another interesting place, if you want tables of objects is https://minorplanetcenter.net/data

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellarium_(software) is nice. You can even place yourself on other planets.

And some really nice complicated and detailed software is: https://aladin.u-strasbg.fr/java/
which I used to make image 1 regarding supernova SN1976N and it being reported in two different locations in 1976/9 and in 2013. >>85155

The second picture is an overlay of where the initial report of the SN was, laid on top of recent sky images. It shows the original astronomer was very precise in his drawing of the location of the SN, so why was it moved in 2013??? One possibility is that the 2 photo-plates taken in 1976 show the "supernova" in 2 different locations because it was in motion and both observers of the plates have looked at different plates. Adding to this is that the original astronomer also drew extra objects that no longer are in astronomy photos. This shows that, possibly, local collisions are being misclassified as distant SNs.

>>89600
>Answers confirm suspicions of principle materials deliberately utilized in "sensitive" testing designs for rapid incineration/destruction methods.

Are you saying the capture of the naturally occurring discs lead to the idea and implementation of making craft/rockets/etc from self-destructing materials similar to the naturally occurring discs? or even retrofiting the natural discs as controlled craft? That seems to be what you are saying... you mentioning silicon and "allotropic" iron:

>Iron represents perhaps the best-known example for allotropy in a metal. At atmospheric pressure, three allotropic forms of iron exist: alpha iron (α), gamma iron (γ) (also known as austenite), and delta iron (δ). At very high pressure, a fourth form exists, called epsilon iron (ε) hexaferrum. Some controversial experimental evidence exists for another high-pressure form that is stable at very high pressures and temperatures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron

Looking at the chart, the change of allotrope for iron, from normal requires a temperature above 910C. The magnesium, if any, would have melted and perhaps was lost. Silicate could have sublimated away.

It might be impossible to track back from a date to a prior astronomical impact, previous finds have been partly fluke. Do you have a date for the crash? Without a exact date it is impossible. I have considered writing software to to look for impact and Earth/object-path crossings but the reward vs effort is not there yet.
You can see a list of supernovas here https://sne.space/ . The name of a supernova is SN[YEAR][letter]. If a "supernova" was the cause it could be any of them up to about 10 years prior to the Earth impact. I need to look into heat loss in space. Would molten meteor blobs arrive hot or cold? And if cold are they Bose-Einstein Condensates which would have superconductor-like aligned (gravito-)magnetic moment? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_moment And is this the explanation for the whimsical changes in thrust/direction? There is a very strange absence of discussion of both gravito-magnetic moment and atomic nuclei magnetic moment.

This leads into Cartan's ideas on EM is space-time twists, and gravity is space-time bends. But what does the actual twisting? The only thing in an antenna that can twist space-time sufficiently is the hyper-dense atomic nuclei. As the electrically charged electrons move in the metal antenna the atomic nucleus is rotated to some degree as well. Since it is in a frictionless electron shell it can rotate as dictated by electron movement. The only impediment is thermal jitter.

The receiving antenna does not need these twists of space-time to move it's own nuclei it is sufficient to perturb its electron (which have about 1/4000ths the mass of the nucleus) only to lead to reception. This unites both EM and G into a unified theory and suggests the strong EM can make artificial G.

>AURORA / SENIOR CITIZEN
...
>"The sleek aircraft would cruise at Mach 5 (3,350 mph) speed at a maximum altitude of about 100,000 feet. The aircraft would be made primarily of titanium with its outer edges constructed of Inconel, a heat-resistant stainless steel. At Mach 5 speed the leading edges of the air-frame would glow red above 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit. [537C]
...
Keeping an aircraft sufficiently cool during extreme speeds is a primary challenge of hypersonic flight. According to studies done by General Dynamics and Boeing, an aircraft travelling at between Mach 5.5 and Mach 6 would have an average skin temperature of approximately 1100-1300 degrees Fahrenheit. [593-704C]
...
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/aurora.htm

Not high enough temperature to warrant a mention of "allotropic" iron, need 910C. Uncontrolled re-entry/impact would be needed. If its uncontrolled it could be natural origin or man-made. "Semi-synthetic resin" sounds man-made, I have no info on this. Does semi-synthetic absolutely mean, non-natural or is their uncertainty?

>>89600
>Pre-Star Wars era technologies in use, most created in 1950's. Post-Star Wars era examples mentioned before, used often by La Sia, no information to compare to at current. Top 3 suspects: Project Skyhaven, Operation Midnight Broadcast, 17th Naval Intelligence. Short list, few "survivors".

It's important to add in that people will hallucinate "UFO pilots" in the presence of a fluctuating EM emitting object. This needs to be included in assessments. Some scientist experiments and witness reports to demonstrate this:

This is direct on brain electrical stimulation:
>Previous perceptions that were already primed by comparison of present situation with past situations would be the ones most likely to gain in intensity.
[ie. the situation determines the hallucination]
>We found certain images were not derived directly from real prior perceptual experiences but were products of the imagination as, for example, the image of a pig on its hind legs, talking.
>Another finding was that more of the hallucinatory [acts perfectly real] or pseudo-hallucinatory [acts obviously not real] reports occurred after stimulation of the posterior hippocampus than from stimulation of any other structure. The hippocampus has been thought to serve a regulatory function over working memory - the process of relating present situations to previous ones. Disruption of hippocampal functions is more likely to be found on electrical stimulation than excitation or enhancement of such functions. We can speculate, then, that temporal lobe stimulations and, possibly specifically hippocampal stimulations, may disrupt regulatory functions over the processes that register optical sensation, hold a percept as an image, and then match this image against memory images of prior perceptions. Loss of inhibition might lead to increased vividness of internally derived imagery.
[You can make people dream while they are awake. See pic1 for a table of visions including people.]
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4615-8645-6_2

>The subjective experiences for those participants who reported a sensed presence were similar to those reported by others exposed to these procedures. The detailed experiences have included feeling another self, sensing a deceased person known to the participant, experiencing a human-like gray face with lights around it (upper left peripheral field), and experiencing “someone” standing nearby.
https://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/jnp.2009.21.3.279

This and Persinger is using EM fields:
>EXPERIMENTAL FACILITATION OF THE SENSED PRESENCE IS PREDICTED BY THE SPECIFIC PATTERNS OF THE APPLIED MAGNETIC FIELDS, NOT BY SUGGESTIBILITY: RE-ANALYSES OF 19 EXPERIMENTS
The importance of verifying the specific timing and temporal pattern of the software-generated fields and following an effective protocol is emphasized.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00207450600808800?journalCode=ines20

Persinger uses specific patterns recorded from other people in his experiments!*. Persinger was also involved in Remote Viewing with Ingo Swann ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6VPpDublg ). Ingo Swann was involved in Remote Viewing experiments at SRI for CIA:

>Axel had his fingers pressed against his lips. He was no longer smiling, and seemed pensive. So I asked: "I gather you want me to try to remote view something?"
>"Oh, absolutely, absolutely," he responded, resuming his smile. "After the American Society, then, you went to SRI and developed a coordinate-ordinate system for remote viewing?"
>Well, that came about because we wanted to try to View sites around the world. The CIA was interested, you know. When we tried to target the cities by their names, we realized that the name had too many clues which might aid me in identifying the target.
-- PENETRATION - THE QUESTION OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL AND HUMAN TELEPATHY by Ingo Swann (1998).

The situation appears to be that our subconscious is connected to magnetic fields, which can contain information. However we also have information in our subconscious, we also have our own imaginings there as well. There is no firm demarcation between real memories and imagination memories AND other data in the EM fields. This makes being a psi-spy very difficult and so the need for double-blind remote viewing. In the absence of objective data the mind will likely use imagination to fill in the gaps.

* See pic3 for crude brain programming with magnets, pic2 adds context. Persinger in the clock video mentions specific types of EM signals and his publications and videos talk about sending specific types of EM signals. Obviously this branches out into dangerous territory for our assumed freedom of thought in our own heads.

>Third, if TLTs [temporal lobe transients, hallucinations] are primarily biogenic neuropatterns, they will be simulated, ultimately, by modern technology. If they can be evoked by artificial methods, what are the clinical implications for the control of religious experiences? These questions are immediate derivations of the hypothesis.
-- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6664802 Persinger (1985)

I bet absolutely no one at the CIA pondered this question!

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>>89747

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UFO "creature" hallucinations:

>Dome and Lee parked next to the heel-stone, beside the fence, and got out to look at the orange globe, leaving the engine running. For some reason Lee would not look at it, but gazed instead at the full moon above the Stones. During this time, the globe performed aerial acrobatics in a regular pattern which engaged Dorne’s attention. while Lee continued his moon-watching. At times, the brilliant orange ball dived behind a small hill nearby or vanished and then reappeared.
>All of a sudden, Lee screamed to Dome to get into the car because security guards were approaching, which she did without looking back and they sped away. The globe followed them as they drove through another band of fog. They stopped in a lay-by after five minutes and Lee recounted what had frightened him so much. Apparently, a dark figure had suddenly appeared beside the monument and approached menacingly and noisily by stamping through the thick leaves. When it got to the fence, Lee saw that it was about 7 foot (2 m) tall and correspondingly broad, and totally black and featureless. It was at this point that he screamed to Dome to get into the car, although it was behind the security fence surrounding the monument. As they climbed into the car, the figure appeared mysteriously on their side of the fence, and at the moment that they had sped away, it was beside the driver's door.
>Still in the lay-by recovering from this getaway, Dome and Lee noticed that a fresh banana on the dashboard had turned to brown syrup, so they threw it out. The orange globe followed them further, until they reached the motorway. where it vanished.
-- Psychic Close Encounters by Albert Budden (1999)

Notice both are acting weird and only one sees the creature. The witnesses have malfunctioning brains.

Lets look at two 1947 presumed hallucinations:

>Location: Island of Muck Highland Region Scotland
>Date:1947
>Time: unknown
>80-year old Alexander Gunn, an angler saw a mermaid like creature right off the coast of the island. The being was a female humanoid in appearance, and sat on a floating wooded box and appeared to be coming her long blond hair. She plunged into the sea when she noticed the witness looking at her. No other information.
>HC addition #408
>Source: Janet & Colin Bord, Modern Mysteries of Britain

We can be reasonably certain that the seas do not have mermaid populations. We can be reasonably certain that she did not travel to Earth on a flying disc in order to sit on a crate and comb her hair.

>Location. Dolores Remedios Cuba
>Date: Summer 1947
>Time: unknown
>A woman had to be treated for nervous shock as she reported that while doing some laundry outside her home, she saw a large bright object shaped like two bowls put together land silently and a man about 2 metes tall emerged from the object. The man wore a shiny white outfit and some type of luminous headgear, he quickly approached the witness and pointing at her and at the ground he yelled something that sounded to her like Terra"
"Terra"! The witness fainted at this point and when she came to [both] the man and the object were gone. Other independent witnesses thought there had been a "crash" of some sort and remembered that US and Cuban military forces had cordoned off an area and had called for heavy quipment and trucks to come in. Something of an unknown nature was taken from the site.
>HC addition #262
>Source: Dr Sergio Cervera and personal interviews

For me, the fainting is a tell, her brain ceased ordinary operation like the salamander above. When she comes to there is no object, but the military take something away? How can that be, did it move then "crash"?

Source: https://studylib.net/doc/8063719/1-albert-rosales-catalogue-of-humanoid-cases-1965

Our brains have no firewalls, we are truly mind-fucked in a techno-dystopia society because we are evolved to recieve EM field data, it seems. Tin-foil hats ARE NOT CRAZY!!!@~

>>89600
>The more I learn, the less empathy I care to acknowledge.

The black pill. Rule of the jungle applies within the technology space. Their will be a division between those that can access and use technology to control the population, and the ordinary, mostly innocent, population. Techno-dystopia seems inevitable, this should have been obvious since MKULTRA. That will probably lead to the technology cycle. I would expect a anti-technology movement at some point once this remote mind control tech gets noticeably implemented. Of course that will blossom out into a new type of human dystopia also.

There are rumors of it's implementation:
https://viclivingston.blogspot.com/2012/12/cell-tower-microwave-weapon-tortures.html
https://www.amazon.com/Project-Catcher-Secrets-Cybernetic-Revealed/dp/1452804087

/adjusts tin-foil hat.

There will be a future market for stylish tin-foil hats! Also harvesting the signal in your Faraday cage house could save on electricity bills! But be sure to do it before they in turn harvest your adrenaline filled blood!

>>89607
Correction: 2004 TG10 did not do a Mercury Fly-by in 1947. But debris in the same orbit from 2004 TG10 could have.

>An example of a hallucinatory CE experience induced by proximity to a UAP is the event which took place on Plumstead Common, south-east London, on 17 July 1978. A woman who decided to rest on the grass while her husband and children went on ahead was suddenly confronted with a large ball of orange light which came hurtling down out of the sky and settled on the ground about 50 yards (46 m) away from her. Totally bemused, she watched as two entities, who changed size as they walked towards her, confronted her in costumes which were a cross between space-suits and chauffeur's uniforms with peaked caps. Then the figure of her father, who had been dead for six years, appeared in a suit and sat on the grass beside her. At this point she felt all the blood drain downwards in her body and she passed out. She lost her sight for about three months and ended up in hospital.
-- Psychic Close Encounters by Albert Budden (1999)

>>89785
How curious.

>Ferdinando Cazzamalli ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinando_Cazzamalli ) was a fellow a t the neuropsychiatric clinic a t the University of Rome. He attempted to record electrical activity of the human brain without the usual attachment of electrodes to the scalps of his subjects. He attempted this by using antennae placed some distance from the scalp, recording the changes as the subjects would go through certain kinds of mental activities. This work appeared as early as 1925 and was continued for approximately 10 years.
...
>The subject remained in a passive state for several minutes. He was then instructed to think of people or activities, particularly those of an intense sort. After a brief instant, an abrupt change on the oscillator was determined; these changes were registered on the film. These recordings varied with the degree of stabilization of the oscillator, the velocity of the unrolling of the film, etc. Cazzamalli compares this with the psychogalvanic reflex, and used the term “cerebropsychoradiant reflex” for the phenomena observed.]
-- Attached.

Recording peoples brains at a distance in 1925.

>It was in the early half of the twentieth century that an Italian professor, named Cazzamalli, conducted experiments in which he exposed human subjects to high-frequency fields in the form of radio waves up to 300 megacyles.” He found that these subjects hallucinated at a particular frequency (between 380 to 500 mc) and reported definite ‘pulsing’ in the brain.
-- Psychic Close Encounters by Albert Budden (1999)

>The trouble is that Cazzamalli never mentioned transmitter power in his somewhat unprofessional papers. His oscillograms meant to show variations of the "beat" when his subjects were emotionally aroused or engaged in creative tasks when they were in the Faraday cage. Later, he told an astounded world that his subjects would hallucinate when under the influence of his "oscillatori telegrafica," its frequency being about 300 MHz at the time.

>Tom Jaski, a noted science writer and engineer, duplicated some of Cazzamalli's work with a modern low-power oscillator that was swept from 300 MHz to 600 MHz. His subjects could not see the dial. They were told to sound off as soon as they felt something unusual. At a certain frequency range — varying between 380 MHz and 500 MHz — the subjects repeatedly indicated points with exact accuracy in as many as 14 out of 15 trials. At these "individual" frequencies, the same subjects announced having experienced pulsing sensations in the brain, ringing in the ears, and an odd desire to bite the experimenters. The oscillator's output power was only a few milliwatts, while the oscillator itself was located several feet away from the subjects.
-- Electronics and Brain Control, Popular Electronics (1973)