Forgive them.
Now,
Command that which ails you thus:
"Go to my GOD, and to my lord Jesus Christ and pray with all thine heart, all thine mind, all thine spirit, all thine faculties, all thine body, all thine strength, all thine being, and all thine self. Pray as one ought. Pray GOD turns your heart to GOD. Pray GOD turns all you are towards GOD. Amen."
Peace be upon you.
You shall know them by their works, send them. By name, by being, by identity, by identifier, by fruit, by work, or by which you name It.
Speak/Think at It.
Send them.
Be not glad you command such, be glad your name is written in heaven.
Be glad.
Partake in the Good Word. Pray so as to talk with GOD, Jesus Christ, your guardian angel. Turn towards GOD and give everything and more.
Rejoice.
For your Wife/Husband, your children, your mother, your father, your brother, your sister may also be prayed in this way.
For Catholics they must be by Blood.
For everyone and everything else.
Do thus:
"My GOD, I ask to be in accordance with your will. I ask that my words and works are in accordance with your will. I ask what ought I do?"
Do as GOD WILLS.
-t. Anonymous. Source: in accordance.
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God wants your joy to be full and complete.
Experiencing The Fruit of The Holy Spirit is great. I don't have words to put the sensations and fullness of hope and joy and self-control and much much more all as God intended. For me there's still more to savor and experience.
There is a difference between works and The Fruit of The Holy Spirit.
-According to hostile forces positive traits are just the summation of various factors that can be pulled apart and reconstructed yet under still undergoes deterioration and can be destroyed.
-The Holy Spirit and The Fruit has to be recieved.
Digging good soil, watering, caring for the seed, the feeding and nurturing is something God wants to do with you. God has done and is doing heavy lifting (if you were to do so on your own it would be very hard labor).
Partaking in God's rest and being with God as He clears the field, puts good soil, waters, cares and tends with you. The kingdom of Heaven grows within and The Fruit multiply.
Typically when a person prays it's either spoken, thought, in action, and or in heart. Praying in a similar way as The Holy Spirit in 'spirit' (the deepest core The Evil can't know) means praying with The Holy Spirit akin to and with The Holy Spirit.
Pray that everything The Holy Spirit Prays for is done continuously and always affirm and accept what The Holy Spirit Prays for.
>That Means saying automatically agreeing and endorsing The Holy Spirit's Prayers.
As in always. As for why I suggest this in conjunction with regular prayer is two-fold with more factors included.
<God is trustworthy and good.
<Regular prayer has much to be known, automatically accepting is robust and efficient and displays trust and love.
In that way and by asking, people can pray in 'the spirit' which transcends time and space. The volume, depth and details and so much more and muchness is immense.
Faster than thought and more continual.
I'm fairly certain The Holy Spirit (The Father and Jesus) led me to this.
The difference between a terrarium and inter-galactic farm practices doesn't even scratch the surface.
-The 'Our Father' Prayer is important.
-Thank You God is important.
-Automatic rubber stampping is yet an additional prayer utility.
Loving God and Loving One Another is joyous.
Point being as the last seventh week (seven years) draws near, making the most of the 'paused' time till that last seventh week resumes.
We're going to need to do this as The Enemy is going to 'successfully' suppress every member of Jesus Christ.
>Prophetic word says the church (body of Christ) will be in decline possibly stalemate? to fulfill what is confirmed.
However while the ending decline is confirmed, let's do the incredible maximizing the opportunity God is giving.
After all total victory is God's and is assured and confirmed.
Thank you God. Thank you everyone.
While slightly adjacent to spiritual warfare. Here's the run down.
God had the Emperor Nebuchadnezzar, he thought it was his doing and not God's for the bounties and richness of his life, reduced to an animal and restored with even more.
Seven periods of time after verbally saying that and him being restored. He praises God and his empire flourishes even more than before.
In seven units of time God made everything and rested.
The Lord of the Seventh day draws near. Jesus Christ is practically at the doorstep we have anywhere from just about now to roughly thirty years, counting down each moment.
Please consider and accept the gifts God has for you and join in properly at the wedding celebration and the after party.
>>167542What are elementals, and how are they different from demons?
>>167544Basic spirits without will and serving/assisting demons.
>>167545Are those a thing in Christianity? I thought all spirits were demons/angels (same thing, different side). I've never heard of elementals in context of Christianity.
>>167546>I thought all spirits were demons/angelsI don't remember previous stays in the spiritual world, but some claim there is a huge ecosystem there.
>>167547Is that Christian canon? Sounds kind of pagan to me. Iirc, all supernatural spirits are referred to as daemons (which translates to "spirit", "intelligence" or "higher power"), which are angels/demons in the bible, demons being the term for the one third of angels who left heaven with Satan, and angels being the term for those who serve God: they are both the same type of entity. They were all created by God, so idk what room there is for a "diverse ecosystem" in Christian cosmology.
>some claimWho does?
>>167542Also, this meme has "demons and devils" in the filename: this is incorrect. While demons are a thing in Christianity, "devils" (plural) aren't a type of entity, but a title given to a singular individual which translates roughly to "the enemy", "the blasphemer", "the arguer": he who spoke back against God. The Devil is a demon/angel/daemon, but no other demons are the Devil. "Devils" (plural) is something only really seen in pop culture.
I found a couple sources where "elemental spirits of the world" are mentioned in passing, but they seem to only be referring to the 'fundamental principles' of the world (as they were referred to in Greek) or angelic/demonic forces present in the material world.
>>167542Douglas Gabriel says some new age boomer stuff. If 90% of what a person says is true but the 10% has falsehood be wary.
Or any kind of falsity in any percentage or twisted truth.
That's not to slander his character people should ensure they aren't led astray.
>Demons get biggerIt's bragging rights a rigged 'game' to perpetuate the pecking order and slake their desires.
When demons (evil beings) are involved they intentionally and accidentally try rebelling against God's perfect plan and will.
That means bad shit happens short term and long term usually with hidden consequences.
Entities grow/feed with the participation of people (God is who made the ground fertile and waters and feeds and grows and nurtures).
>ElementalsNo idea for the scriptural basis.
>>167551Do daemons necessarily grow in power with the participation of people, or is that just an illusion created by relativity by their influence over the people who willfully but unwittingly participate? They're immortal beings who by definition transcend time as we know it, so their power should be fixed at their moment of creation by God. I don't know if they're actually capable of growing in power so much as people and society just keep going along with their plans and letting them wreak havoc; they probably just want humans to think they're strong or have gotten stronger.
Demons, as angels, have the supernatural ability to alter reality, but they dare not use it in presence of Christians for fear of being incinerated on sight by the holy spirit, and why they kill themselves out of hopelessness in the presence of Jesus (and why their last resort is to hold their hosts hostage during exorcisms). They have zero power over those who believe in Christ and are filled with the holy spirit, which is why they can only exploit those with wavering faith.
>>167554So Christian demons ie rebellious angels (dominions, principalities, and powers I think they're called in scripture) from outside sources of the bible are totally defined and confined.
Think machines, with a mask and name. A calculator, slide rule or abacus.
They have a couple of preset moves and they go through them.
>Outside of timeThey're constrained to time if they could time travel they'd keep fucking off before the End Times occur.
They have a different let's call it dimension and scope of actions.
>Do daemons necessarily grow in power with the participation of people, or is that just an illusion created by relativity by their influence over the people who willfully but unwittingly participate? It's people giving (being coercered) their 'power' (ie God's) to another to use on that person's behalf (for hostile entities it's fucking stuff up).
Which brings faith and belief into the equation and how God made everything...
All I know is that faith and belief in God means things happen because God is loving and living and good and majestic and powerful.
>They fear the Holy SpiritYes. Rebellious angels do, but also are not the brightest bulbs in the tool box.
The thing is they are junkies looking for their next hit. No matter how dumb or risky it is they're going to try getting it.
When The Holy Spirit is around they scram.
If a person is God's son/daughter through Jesus Christ and have The Holy Spirit they will do everything they can to make sure the person never knows what exactly their allowed to do.
Which is command them.
They have to do it.
Which also means you have legal representation and rights and can enforce them as God wills.
Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath. The day of rest, justice, freedom and being with God.
Where Jesus is its basically the Sabbath.
This is important, our Father and Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit 'I am the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End'
Is our friend, brother, father, God and each other.
When a person experiences His Names they're changed because deep inside they ask for more for a relationship.
What does it mean to be living? Not just merely surviving, but living.
May our joy be made full, complete and perfect. The Living God and God of The Living.
Finding out with The One Who Is Good.
That's who anyone has to travel with to find true everlasting life and the continually ever more joyfully ever after.
Seek, Ask, Knock continually. Being with our Abba all desires are fulfilled as we continually reach for our Father, Friends and family. Even whoever or whatever our personal enemies may be that if they too are drenched and submerged in His Name(s) they won't have to be enemies.
>>167555>They're constrained to time if they could time travel they'd keep fucking off before the End Times occur.Or, you could say that the end has already occurred (been foretold) for them, because ultimately time is just another metric of the material world. They're profoundly doomed creatures who exist in literal hell (the absence of God), which is why they try to whisper into the ears of humans and trying to trick them into surrender because they're jealous and despairing and that's all they can really do.
They're constrained to time, but from the perspective of an immortal creature time is just a flicker. For them there is neither past nor present, there is only the now. They know they are damned, so they despair.
The same is true for humans, in a way, who are also immortal and merely temporarily constrained by the perspective of the material world.
>It's people giving (being coercered) their 'power' (ie God's) to another to use on that person's behalf (for hostile entities it's fucking stuff up).Is this supported by scripture? This is my first time hearing about humans giving power to daemons.
>The thing is they are junkies looking for their next hit. No matter how dumb or risky it is they're going to try getting it.I think it's more of misery and spite: they're already doomed, so they try to drag others with them ala crab bucket mentality. They try to trick humans into surrendering their souls as cope because they're jealous of humans and they hate them for being god's creation, which is the reason they fell from heaven in the first place.
>they will do everything they can to make sure the person never knows what exactly their allowed to do.That power being absolutely nothing but despair at their hopeless existence. That's why they committed mass suicide when Christ was born.
>have The Holy SpiritAll Christians are filled with the holy spirit. That's what protects them from jealous demons.
Demons really aren't all that powerful. They make up spooky stories about their supernatural powers or whatever, but in reality they're strictly inferior to humans, which is why they were commanded to bow before Adam. Daemons are spiritual creatures who are immortal because they're not part of the material world, but humans are more: humans are not only immortal being made in god's image, but part of the universe and able to look upon it and see its beauty, and there's nothing that demons can do that humans can't. Demons are jealous of humans, which is why they make up horror stories to trick people into thinking they have power, or make up idols so that they may be worshipped by the humans they deem to be inferior, but in the end they are nothing special. They know humans are more than they are, so they just try to take advantage of them and confuse them before their souls are mature: the metaphysical equivalent to pedophilia.
>>167640>neither past nor present*neither past nor future
>>167640>The PostThat's more or less the case.
> but in reality they're strictly inferior to humansYes.
>This is my first time hearing about humans giving power to daemons.It's more like permission or access.
It's more akin to conjecture and I don't think it's stated anywhere.
So consider it dubious.
The closest analogy is alliances and prostitution.
>>167643>permission or accessPermission/access is probably the best way to describe it. Demons don't actually have any direct power over humans, let alone Christians, so they can only attempt to trick them into surrender. Idolizing them doesn't really empower them so much as it simply enables them to ravage those who foolishly worship/fear them.
>>167644>ChristiansCheck their fruits to see which spirit they follow. Some don't plant seeds, nor fertilize the ground, nor water, nor ask for help from Our Best Friend.
If a house is empty who defends the house?
People who would give the unclean spirit to God, also have a tendency that other unclean spirits would avoid them or try to target them by proxies. Also tend to have The Holy Spirit dwell within.
Keep in mind there is only One Teacher and One who is Our Father.
Remember who The Holy Spirit is and what Jesus Christ has said.
Also who's voice the flock hears.
By the way some turbo dickweed is going to proclaim himself to be god on/in that temple in Israel.
-possibly also the one they are going to build in Ukraine.
--The Holocaust museums might also count as one such temple
--Possibly also all their secret societies bullshit as well.
The thing is the fuckers for The Evil One is going to compound all the bullshit even higher. It's continued.
>They are going to escalate as we well know that's their steps to their goal.
-Combined tactics of everything they pulled since the beginning all together and at once.
Making events similar to what is in prophetic messages about this time. As they attempt to usurp to drag all into the sludge of doom.
As you know they play both sides (really it's only one side their side) they're going to manufacture a monster.
A beast.
The one who they're going to prop up to slay it, might be The WHO (not the band, but the world health organization).
As usual whatever (((they))) make turns on (((them))) due to the evils being done by (((them))).
<To be A-Wake is to make Ripples.
Thank You God.
There is a consideration of exactly how short the Last Day is. I'm going to suppose it'll be incredibly short indeed.
Right now is the setup for the punchline.
Soon we'll be seeing the stars begin to fall. This may also reference not only beings like fallen angels, but ((('man made'))) stars.
Corporations, movie stars, political stars, educational, financial, scientific, ect, ect, ect.
All comes falling down.
They are ready for that, they miss the element. The point is missed for them.
I'm impressed with the setup God has done/is doing.
<Outsmarted their outsmarting.
This is stuff found in most Bibles, a bit of searching and or by asking God.
Thanks.
So whats holding lawlessness back?
More to the point who and why.
Short answer Jesus and God and The Holy Spirit and The Father and everybody.
By rejecting evil.
Those that really are trying extremely hard to maximize evil have their minds and hearts turned over to what they desire and whome is at the end of the leash.
What this means however is one that will be a story for the age of ages.
>What do?
Acts of love, of kindness, of honesty, of generosity, of laughter, of loyalty, of friendship of following The Teacher The Way The Truth and The Life.Byhere's going to be plans to snuff that out, because it upsets tthem (((them))) and (((their))) slave caste.
The proper ordering is nesring.
Referenced in one of the past threads on why they're committing and spreading evils is to reconvene to God by making a mountain of evil to climb to heaven.
Our Farther doesn't have pleasure in that.
The double portion is near.
Okay so actionable things.
>Be part of God's family.
Time is going to be shortened or else nobody would survive the wrath.
A large percentage of people are going to die or disappear. Our Father knows the hearts the very most secret parts of who people are.
The Flood that happened with Noah and stuff, when the magnetic field flips and the grand solar minimum occurs (suprise is at close enough to the same time) this time it's not water.
It'll be fire. Likely fire.
Real fire, cosmic fire, meteorological fire, metaphorical fire, Holy Spirit's Fire or something else or a combination or something more.
>Practical How To Guide
Speak to God/Father/Jesus/Holy Spirit by thinking or speaking.
They want to lavish you in the joy
/joys they can give. Which is full complete and perfect.
>Faith and Belief
Know and hope for what God is giving. Know the true face of God is good.
Everything is fulfilled.
>I want/need stuff.
Ask God. Out loud or in your head.
Seek God as the ultimate provider for all these.
>Rough times what do?
Seek God's Rest. Basically ask to be in God's Rest.
>But what if God-
It's simple, put on the perfections provided by Jesus our friend.
>What about (((them)))
They're not going to be a problem. Leave all vengeance to God.
>How do I offer stuff/thoughts/feelings
By saying that you do or by imagining.
>>167661>autistic preacherI agree on most of what you say, but; take it easy anon.
>Of truth and Truth>Liars are very concerned that Christianity appears to make it harder for them to successfully lie to peoplehttps://voxday.net/2023/06/17/of-truth-and-truth/
>>167671What does this really have to do with the thread topic?
Also, I disagree with this meme: I do not trust the government to regulate speech, so I prefer it to be free.
>>167672>I do not trust the government to regulate speechAre you implying regulating speech would be good, if the authority could be trusted?
>>167672>What does this really have to do with the thread topic?Everything.
The duality on Christianism opposing satanism and the method to undermine Christian teachings.
>>167674By the way, those enlightened philosophers were by general rule masons. Go figures who writes the history books.
>>167673No. I don't believe any government is trustworthy enough to decide how people can communicate. There is no such government, and therefore it shouldn't be regulated.
>>167674>>167676Without free speech, who would decide who gets to say what?
I like free speech. Without it skeptical and/or politically incorrect forums like /mlpol/ wouldn't exist. I like being able to speak my controversial fringe opinions without being locked up for it. I wouldn't give that up.
>>167678>Without free speech, who would decide who gets to say what?The Bible.
>>167671>>167679>>167678>Who decides what is good?<Together, Our Father, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, GodConsider the following.
The Fruit of the Holy Spirit.
Second Timothy 2
Revelation 22:11
So you Could say anything not that you Should.
Let us not cast stones, but seek gentle corrections.
As a reminder vengeance is God's.
Also being a citizen of God and sons/daughters of God through Jesus please consider God.
Freedom of speech like the sun, moon, rain and the blessings God has given is for everyone.
How people uses the God given gift is their choice. Some areas God knows the specifics and circumstances wherr may or may not be their choice.
>>167674Look the point of the thread is to target the root. The Fruit of the Lips (speech) has to come from somewhere.
The mind is one thing like the branch reaching.
The spirit the deepest core that God knows desires God.
So the thread is about going to God (God is always with us) and asking for what is in His will.
>Point of the thread essentially is Praying (talking with God) and God is more than super efficacious.<As in hearing (seeing, feeling, knowing, ect.) what God has to say to you through the means God works and talking (by all means and methods).God understands and knows.
Our Father is more than sufficient.
Believe the good news is that Jesus has paid for everything and sits reigns with our Father. Have faith that His actions or deeds or words or name are true.
You're justified in full now and forever, when you accept the gift by believing and faith that it is so, you're credited by faith.
Love comescomes fear, how can there be fear in the arms of Our Loving Father.
Love shows truth majesticly.
Our Friend did everything for us.
Do you know why the lukewarm church was lukewarm and vomit inducing?
Our Friend did the Hot and Cool perfectly. This is grace an unmerited gift for (You). You are loved always and forever.
The works are done.
The born citizen of God His children, is everlasting citizenship.
The Evil One is quite small to our Father. The mewlings to convince are rendered obsolete when faced with the love.
I once said as a different person that if only there was a way that (((they))) would simply not do evil all would be much better.
Our Father and Friend and Companion and Advocate can.
That's a promise.
Soon everyone will understand our Father our Friend our Advocate our cherished loved one.
What do you do with a broken seal? What is done with the plastic packaging?
We're soon about to see some of the most blatant spiritual happenings.
>>167679>>167682Okay, but who enforces that? Who would be legally deciding who gets to say what and when? The only answer is the state, or the church functioning with the authority of a state.
>>167684>"Don't ask questions anon, that's heresy, you feel it in your heart and everyone instinctively has exactly the same moral framework to go off of, so if everyone just follows God everything will work out!"
>>167684>The only answer is the state, or the church functioning with the authority of a stateNope. The State is a structural fiction to carry the oligarchs' will and an abomination before any free man. Just applying The Bible to the letter is the only necessary law. In the case of Free Speech, I don't see any problems as long as heresy and blasphemy are not invoked.
>>167687No shit, the man actually said it. Sorry to any port towns in Bibleopolis that have an abundance of shellfish. Jesus christ.
>>167687>lawAnd who enforces laws?
>>167688>Jesus christ.Taking Christ's name in vain is blasphemy anon. In better times the pyre was a good fix for that.
>>167689>And who enforces laws?Us.
>>167690A great big pyre fit for Gro-Goroth. Praise be to the god of destruction, and may the offering be followed shortly after by a marriage of flesh. Fuck Alll-Mer though, he's gay.
>>167692>god of destructionIt is called cleansing and purification.
>>167693Okay Alll-Merlet.
I get this is the dual purpose serious nutcase schizo stuff and random shitposts.
As in this thread is about talking with God. Understanding our position with everyone and everything else for maximum leverage spiritually that means not physical.
>>167684>>167679For political discussion of why the fuck any Anon would curtail freedom of speech put it in political or random.
>Oh shoot ourselfs in the foot by empowering non-human occupied structural entities.Wow!>>167687Don't be a legalist.
>>167690>>167692I would advise against that.
>>167690>>167693>PyreNo. This is a peaceful board and the pyre isn't the best solution.
God is the best solution.
Vengeance is God's do you not know the sheer righteous majestic actions and gifts God does?
God who designed beauty and awe and joy and friendship has some great things in store.
Do you know why they keep telling everyone the fucked up stuff they do? Because it's on the record, that's the rule for lawless fallen angels.
The memes are already written by God.
>>167695>This is a peaceful board and the pyre isn't the best solution.Of course, however God would approve the pyre, fire cleanses everything.
>>167696>PyreSome wood and combustion can't clean where it matters most.
God's Fire is more than sufficient. He's our friend. The Holy Spirit.
>>167697>Some wood and combustion can't clean where it matters most.You would be surprised of what can be achieved if a Biblical Theocracy arises in every US town.
>>167698Aside from every preventable disease suddenly making a resurgence, abortions-by-sharp-stone, and the very high likelihood that people would adopt
Zio-Christianity, yeah, lots of achievements. Playing Civ completely by that book's gonna be your undoing, if not because the stuff in that book's dead wrong then at least because the vast majority of Christians are the people who would end up enforcing these social changes, not the 0.0001% of based people who believe in the same Jewish volcano god on a stick.
>>167699>and the very high likelihood that people would adopt Zio-ChristianityThat's very worrisome indeed and the most likely outcome I' afraid as people are so cucked and demoralized that will follow and accept judeo-tainted Christianity from whoever throws them more money and goodies.
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>>167698That misses the point.
God solves the issues not the middle managers alone.
That's why things have to be done with God.
Regardless of type of entity people build its the people and God who have anything function.
Here's the how to on praying and communicating with God.
God's ready knows you before you even ask. So just do it.
Listening and hearing is both really simple and easy. Ask and you'll recieve. Seek and you'll find. Knock and it'll open.
Seek God first and all else are given as well.
Jesus Christ is who we must wear. We live in the age of the Laodicea. The end times.
Churches try to mock Jesus Christ disregarding the Him totally foregoing His legal council, His righteousness, His acts, His life, His suffering, His death, His resurction with garbage by comparison.
Don't live married to The Law, those in Jesus Christ go through His intervention.
The Liar and Deciever uses trickery as his weapons. The red snake who speaks evil wants to replace who is good with him as the objects of worship.
The dragon will kill and sacrifice anyone and anything to do so including the pawns and subordinates. He transforms and shifts and alters his own facade.
We need Jesus, we need The Holy Spirit, we need Father.
Please have Jesus to advocate for you on your behalf. God is stronger than the small dragon.
Know the best player is our Friend. He knows ALL their tricks traps hearts minds body and soul.
(Angels, The Enemy, Trumpets are sounding, Euphrates is drying up also looks like an omega character, sea is turning blood red, sky darkened) Yes this is long.
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>>167691With no institution? Then that's anarchy, and you're back to free speech again, with the occasional lynchmob.
Remember that Jesus Christ had to talk in parables to fulfill completely.
Knowing and seeking our Friend matters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1-z7Hs-3g0
>>167902>the occasional lynchmobNot much different than the current lynchgang, The former totally free and voluntary, the later mercenary.
>>167904Yeah, but what was the point of refuting freedom of speech if there's no government in the first place? Freedom of speech means preventing the government from restricting speech, that's it.
What was the point you were trying to make?
>>167904>>167905No take the legalism mess to /mlpol/
This is about Spiritual warfare.
Yes you have to watch your own thoughts, strike down imagined evils that may arise before they be fully created, direct your mind to God and allow God to foil the Enemy.
Does it seem counter intuitive to The World, it is because The World can't even know truth!
Do you not know Jesus and what Jesus has done?
Stop obsessing over evil when obsessing over Good has that be created.
Look friends, the Bible tells you why and how reality works.
As essence God does it. Consider this Jesus is in the heart and is the heart of our Father.
Son and Father and Spirit made it so at all levels.
Jesus has invited you to be one with Him and also you are made to be the image of God.
Glorification raises, so Glorify Jesus as Jesus Glorifies the Father and so the Father Glorifies you so you can Glorify The Son.
Our Father loves His Son very much.
>In your mind glorify Him
>Thus out of your mouth glorify Him
>Thus you'll find yourself glorifying our Friend, Father, Brother, God.
And your Joy will be made full, complete and perfect when you seek, ask and knock.
Who do you seek? Him and all else will be given and fulfilled!
As this seems to be the catch all thread for the topic of God.
Why are the leaves of the Tree of Life used for the healing of nations (tribes) in revelation?
>>167910Could be symbolic, as leaves fall in the autumn and represent the end of the season. Leaves are often used in healing ceremonies. The apocalypse is the end of the material world, and the leaves of the tree of life are the final product of life itself.
The substance really doesn't matter. God could use rocks or dirt or thin air, but the symbolism of death, healing, revival and the cycle of nature matters.
Revelations is full of symbolism. That's not to say it isn't meant to be taken literally (although some parts could be metaphorical just because their real world equivalent wasn't explainable in biblical times), but everything that happens in the Revelations is symbolic, because everything that happens has meaning.
>>167910There's a Bible study thread on /ub/, btw. Maybe consider asking there.
Idk if there's really a clear answer besides symbolism of the act though.
Here's a mystery that I am told to phrase like this in two parts and a question.
>The Living God
>Pray without ceasing
<What actually is prayer?
>>167918>What actually is prayer?It is a recipe to pack your wishes and broadcast it to the matrix mainframe. If you do it right, the mainframe will respond in kind.
Watch out for an unexpected boomerang hitting you bad and hard. What you summon might be what you get.
>>167919That's the jist*, the details are in the how.
A baby prays and also without ceasing. At all times.*Of what prayer mechanically represents
Continued
more than wishes and the recipe is the instructions that it is a recipe in and of itself. The steps of a recipe just so happen to be upon 'The Recipe'.Continued 2
A message in a bottle, depends on who opens and picks it up. Yet even before the message it's recieved.Continued 3 I wouldn't suggest a matrix mainframe that as stated is a finicky mess.
It's the by technically and design not how it's ment to be used. While stuff could happen, it's worth considering the intended functionality and meaning.
Ask God to have all His blessings given to us be made full, complete and perfect.
They already are.
Ask God so you always accept God's blessings that God desires to give to you.
They are many among such is joy, peace, prosperity, love, friendship, wisdom, grace, self-control and many more.
I'd also recommend this.
Ask God that you can recognize and the wisdom in God's will.
>Anon How do you ask God?
Say it out loud or in your head. (In action or writing or painting or anything.)
Recently I've been giving God (Jesus, the highest priest) everything.
In my mind and thoughts, I imagine a platter with stuff (what matters to me is that stuff represents everything and or a particular thing) and I give it to God. God knows better than I. So giving God everything the advicate and priest whom Jesus also is has it all and I did the part I ought.
What is imagined is little Fisher nets that caught all sorts of hostile entities (hostile angels ect.) they are caught along with everything and reeled in as they put their fingers into the wrong pie.
I am not quite certain what the message of this thread is.
What exactly defines "spiritual war" as a Christian? I see people describing how to do it, but less of what it actually means.
>>167930The fact that it's in /vx/ instead of /ub/ makes me think it has something to do with supernatural metaphysics, and not just ideal lifestyle, good religious citizenship, personal spiritual wellbeing, and how to be a good Christian.
After reading the thread again twice, I still don't quite understand what OP means by "spiritual war".
>>167930>>167931So essentially, we're participating in reducing the influence of evil and increasing good via praying (ie communicating with God, Father, Son and The Holy Spirit).
Praying is a super-supernatural metaphysical occurrence nearly entirely on God's side.
Desiring God's will be done (it is, the question is would you like to also participate in God's will).
<All the other topics discussed is how to be prepared and some suggestions on praying.>When God's Will is done (which is an incredibly immense gifts of all sorts of good stuff and relationships and ect.) that combats evil.All of God's Will combats evil at the source (and everywhere and more) and can have good arise.
At nearly all scales things are less shit.
People have the opportunity to throw off evil spiritual influences. Meaning the amount of shit is lessened.
By communicating and resting with God all the issues are solved.
>>167932Is the goal to combat the evil in the transitory world (which will inevitably be destroyed), or is it to save individuals from evil?
>all the issues are solved.Well, not all issues. The material world is foretold to be consumed by evil before the apocalypse. I don't know if the point is so much to stop the tide of evil as it is to save individuals by pulling them aboard the arc. Stopping the influence of evil in the material world is to give people more greater opportunities to live peaceful lives.
>>167934Both matter.
By having people have The Holy Spirit they are saved and everything turns better.
By rejecting evil people can more easily have The Holy Spirit.
While evil may be a sinful ocean of death striving against evil by seeking good which repulses evil is commendable.
Because people matter and so does God.
>The material world is foretold to be consumed by evil before the apocalypse.By praying you'll participate in God's plan for that. As after death is the fire of spirit.
Ask God and God listens.
God also loves (You).
Rebuke the Adversary, this is a spiritual entity, and shut him up. Serve him and the cohorts upon a golden platter to the highest priest Jesus. God is glorified always.
Ask God and you'll find the image of God making it so because God has done it.
Ask and seek His answer your faith is rewarded. The reward can be suprising and joyful.
Faith is trusting God.
As the end times are near and this is an important point to make.
All the blood is accounted for. The earth and water will spit it out.
When Jesus lands blood will wash His feet upon His steed.
>isn't the rapture going to happen, where those who have go to meet Him in the clouds?
That's a common interpretation and seems sound.
The Vatican Is Evil
“Sunday is our MARK of authority - the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” — Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
Ezekiel 33-6
But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Matthew 10-16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.
Ephesians 6-12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
REAL PRAYER
"Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil, for thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory for ever amen."
“‘The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
this was the Lord's doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’?
Prepare the full equipment of God for soon the, King of Kings, the Friend of Friends draws near.
Prepare with joy and offer the joy to Him.
Sing the overflow of the heart.
Luxuriate with His emotions, and share.
I've thought about it. What now.
>>168241Don't forget the diinosaurs either intelligently designed to kill or evolutionarily optimized to do it
And all the intestines and buttholes and methods of digesting plant and prey in the animal kingdom
Microbes. Single celled organisms.
To say death and pain are divine punishments for man for eating the fruit of knowledge and disobeying god is a porquoi story no different from telling your child earthquakes happen because of homosexuality or a woman being sent by god to open Pandora's Box.
>>168243I genuinely thought he was hornyposting about navels for a minute after reading
I might have heard too many of our fellow horsefuckers going feral about bellybuttons
>>168244UOOOOOH FEEEETTTT
That's my impression of a typical internet user these days.
>>168244That's definately on you. The meme is stupid, but also pretty obvious. It's implying that they aren't the first humans.
>>168245Not one to judge, bud.
>>168248But if it was posted by a Christian anon would that not be blasphemy?
I don't believe the Genesis account so I'm not interested in that sort of detail. Plus the filename was NAVELS and the only text was "mmmmmh" like he was biting his lip.
>>168249Wtf. I'm not sure how I missed that.
>>168241>Wow a being who can make literally anything can't make a belly button as if they were to mimic their descendants.Just letting you know that image is retardation. As if people who recreated a scene would make them not appear human.
>>168252Yeah like no shit a bunch of bronze age painters would make them have bellybuttons, they probably never gave it a thought. The statement of the image is so dumb it eludes having any meaning at all.
>>168244>hornypostingC'mon.
According to the Bible's Genesis, Adam and Eve were created, however, artistic depictions funded by the church contradict that. I'm have 100% certainty that is not a mistake.
Something is not adding up.
>>168259>I'm have 100% certainty that is not a mistake.Why? Why must it be nefarious, instead of the artist simply not considering it, or considering it and thinking "they look better with bellybuttons"? It's not like church-funded art is supposed to be canon: it's just art, made to illustrate biblical elements so that the public can appreciate them, while also flexing the power of the church by commissioning pretty things to decorate it.
Scientific understanding of human anatomy wasn't widespread back then; it was quite a novel thing in the Renaissance era.
Furthermore, a lot of this art is based on Greek/Roman art for appreciation of the human body, including the navel. As a work of art, it is an abstraction: the artist has no obligation to create a speculative human without a bellybutton just because Adam and Eve would have lacked them, when part of the point of the artwork is to celebrate the conventional human body.
>>168259"Artists in a time infamous for a weak understanding of biology didn't think that hard about a one inch detail's implications on biblical creationism" isn't a simple enough answer?
>>168260>Why? Why must it be nefarious, instead of the artist simply not considering itBecause the Church doesn't commit that kind of mistakes. Priests are not dumb and perfectly know how a baby is born.
Those artistic depictions are heretical and everybody involved would deserve swift punishment. Yes, there is nefarious intent.
>>168261I think he's implying that the church intentionally commissioned inaccurate art to... weaken or subvert its own religion or something?
I don't really believe seeing paintings of Adam and Eve with belly buttons has caused anyone to question the legitimacy of Christian cosmology when they already believed in it. A painting is just a painting.
>>168263>A painting is just a painting.Not a Church's painting. That kind of "mistake" is unheard of.
>>168264Dude, the bible says that if you make your cattle fuck in front of a bunch of branches, their calves will be striped. It says that bats are birds.
>>168262>the Church doesn't commit that kind of mistakesYeah, but artists do.
The church is not flawless either. They saw the artists delivered a nice pic, and so they kept it.
>>168264Belly buttons appear in renaissance art everywhere. It's not unheard of. It was the norm.
All this art was based on the Greek/Roman Renaissance fad about appreciation of the modern human body, and modern humans have belly buttons. The church wanted art that reflected human idealism in ancient Greek art, and Greek god statues still had belly buttons even when they were created and not born.
Although logically it makes sense that Adam and Eve might have not had belly buttons, it also doesn't explicitly say that they packed them, so showing them with bellow buttons doesn't contradict the scripture. The actual purpose of this art was to help people appreciate the glory of of mankind as god's creation: to appreciate themselves.
>>168266People who take the bible as literally as to think that a grand conspiracy of artists was involved in such minor "disinformation" is more plausible than that, more often than not deify these specific people while abhorring or neglecting humanity at large.
>>168266>Yeah, but artists do.>The church is not flawless either. They saw the artists delivered a nice pic, and so they kept it.I don't believe that considering that that kind of mistakes may terminate both the artist and the supervising priests. Add to this small curious artistic detail how the Church depicts widely gargolas and assorted satanic paraphernalia.
It is everywhere for everybody with eyes to see.
>>168268>Insects have four legs>Hares chew their cud>Satyrs>Unicorns>A person can survive inside a whale or great fish>Seeds must die to germinate>Biblical Pi (π) = (C/d) = (30 cubits/10 cubits) = 3.0>The mustard seed is the smallest seed in existence (orchids are smaller, just as one example)>Ants are independent actors with no queens/rulersBut a bunch of artists following this scripture are so anal about anatomical accuracy that they sack any artist who doesn't depict Adam and Eve with smooth tummies? Fucking listen to yourself.
>>168269You are conflating some passages that make little sense to the foundational idea of Heaven and the Original Sin. Like pears to green pees.
>>168267Adam and Eve aren't just specific people. As an artistic trope, they also represent the archetypes of mankind (man and woman) as a whole. In this picture, they're depicted as typical humans because in this context they represent humanity.
Also, let's be clear, the bible doesn't say anything about belly buttons. The claim that Adam and Eve would have lacked them is a sensible one, but it's still pure extrapolation. Not having come from a womb doesn't necessitate that they lacked belly buttons, since God mande not only Adam and Eve, but also all mankind in his image, and God transcends time itself. Maybe God has a belly button too, for some reason. All we know is that man is made in the image of God.
Removing the belly button from mankind as we know it would mean the artist taking creative license and inserting his speculative fanfiction into to the art, when the bible doesn't necessitate lack of belly button. Imo, that's far more heretical.
>>168268So, you're telling me that the people who had all the power in the world to just rewrite the bible in its entirety and destroy earlier copies instead chose to subvert christianity by painting Adam and Eve with belly buttons? The people who could have simply rewritten the genesis to say that Adam and Eve had blue skin and 7 eyes instead commissioned paintings of them with belly buttons? That's what you're saying?
You're free to believe what you wish, but you've lost me with that nonsense.
>>168271>That's what you're saying?That there is something very fishy. Nothing else.