/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

https://youtu.be/h2jj879Snis

This video series hit me like a ton of bricks, doing something I have been begging for for decades; taking a dyed-in-the-wool skeptic and applying the skeptical process to commonly accepted historical accounts.
While I included his just minted Christmas video in OP, the series begins with the Mud Flood.
In this video, he goes through the process of attempting to debunk the Mud Flood, but after an undisclosed period of research and investigation he found that not only could he NOT debunk it, but that much of what he found correlated to other theories, stories, and even legends.
I was going to hold off posting this yet, but as with the Christmas video, my hand is forced by the comedy pf life.

Allow me to contribute.

>Max Igan - History is a Lie, We've Been Set Up
https://odysee.com/@go1dleaf:f/History-is-a-Lie,-We've-Been-Set-Up:9
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ocYPnjGq2yOz/

>>157620
Solid contribution anon. I intuit that you are thinking precisely along the same lines I am. Though not familiar with Max Igan, he hits on almost all the talking points I intend to hit on featuring the Armored skeptic series. I will familiarize myself with his work post haste.
In the meantime, this pushes me nicely toward episode 2 of his series, which focuses on the 'what' of the purpose behind this thread and the venture that will result. Spoiler alert, gonna build a tesla tower/park/garden. Wanna know why? Watch eps 3-6. Or just wait for me to get there
https://youtu.be/fh-at8vj9oE

>>157621
>Though not familiar with Max Igan
He's a freedom loving guy and currently exiled in Central America while wanted by the Australian zog.

>>157622
He's got alot right, but he seems to be missing a bit of context. Or, hes simply not applying himself in the manner Im putting forward (more likely) but he's spot on in alot of ways. Here is Graham Hancock referringnto the same phenomena
https://youtu.be/ZyfE3IvDWR8

Really liking Max Iger, he very nicely gets to the philosophy of who, especially in this video
https://youtu.be/XO6CA-WM35I

>>157640
Yes, his mind is profound and in my opinion, almost like a mentor.

>this venture
Yes, indeed.
Well, my hand has been forced again.
Continuing the History is a Lie series, we arrive at episode 3
https://youtu.be/B4rEF8Hbo6k
Featuring giant skeletons,
https://youtu.be/QLK3YA1bX2M
Featuring Atlantis,
https://youtu.be/sOzxMmAesNI
Featuring Jesus of yesterday, and
https://youtu.be/hqe_72uQE_g
Featuring Jesus of tomorrow.

I have plenty to comment/provide above and beyond Skpetic's analysis, and welco.e questions, comments, etc.

The long and short is, gotta build a Tesla tower.
1. Gotta be able to counter extreme EMF radiation in something better than a faraday cage
2. Gotta have renewable food equal to participant count
3. Guns (this is technically 1, but its presented as 3 cuz while it enables the list, the central focus is not guns)

Ill be happy to speak to Skeptic's explanation, as well as to present my own findings (way more sophisticated), as the latter is going to dictate the development of this project.
>pic related
is the surface (above ground) edifice of the tower, exceot rigged like pic 3
pic 4 cuz I felt like it

>>158015
>pic 2
Thanks to Luz for the data/image

>>158014
>gotta build a Tesla tower
This faggot is going to get electrocuted.

>>158017
No, cuz Im NOT going to outsource my creative process

>>158018
Remember that when you are tempted to call an outsourced ambulance.
KEK

>>158019
Come now, I died almost 10 years ago. Not that emergency care is omitted from my process, but that shit got RLY bad if Im calling them
yes, worse than the time I cut my finger tip off

https://youtu.be/Rxmw9eizOAo
In this video, Joe Rogan and Graham Hancock discuss the archaeological evidence that alludes to a catastrophic event ~11600 years ago (its unknown if this date figure accommodates the 'added 400-700 years' Skeptic refers to during the dark ages). While not directly touching on the themes I am, it is cohesive in the assertion of plausibility that Revelations et al is a historical account/record.

So heres what happened. I did a quick rundown here:
>>157977 →
Now it is important to note, the comet Hancock refers to is NOT what wiped out the dinosaurs, that happened far earlier and was what wiped out the dinosaurs.
The comet Hancock refers to is what sank Atlantis, and correlates to the multitude of flood stories from cultures worldwide.

>far earlier, and was when the moon collided with the Earth creating the crater/destruction I hypothesize is either what antarctica borders, or is buried under Antarctic ice.
But dont worry, as Planet X gets closer and closer, disrupting our climate FAR more effectively than humanity could, Antarct8ca wl thaws and we'll get to see. Cuz remember, its only sudden and rapid melting of ice that causes flooding, a gradual melt wont do that (see, meltingcup of ice water experiment).
What I. also saying is that the whole Global Warming/Climate Change movement - on some level - is about trying to push a narrative that will draw attention away from a cyclical catastrophic event that is known and expressed in some of the deepest levels of secret societies and the very tops of power heirarchies.

>>158080
>wiped out the dinosaurs
Okay, I was afraid you would be drawn to that subject.
On one hoof you have the establishment narrative inventing a whole dinosaur from a few bone fragments, and filling museums with ancient animals fruit of a wild imagination.
On the other hoof you have those who plainly refuse the existence of those creatures.
But there is a third hoof with an intermediate theory...
Allow me to introduce Mr. Don Patton who affirms, with geological proof that dinosaurs lived among humans.
Watching his lectures will take you at least a whole week.
https://www.bible.ca/tracks/ask-creationist.htm
https://www.bible.ca/tracks/videos-quotes.htm

>>158082
By the way, Patton masterfully demolishes Evolution and leaves their believers in academia in utter shame.

>>158082
Not familiar with him specifically, but I am familiar with that line of thinking, and in may ways I either agree or have no contest. Having said, reptiles are among many of the purported alien species, and if there were giant humans, it stands to reason that there were giant dinosaura. Sill, I concur that the archeological data surrounding d8nosaurs is anything but certain, or fully fleshed out. Being as though places loke Gobekli Tepe are only12k years old and we're just discovering them, and in light of the fact that its what, 100' down? True dinosaur/reptile - and not exclusively - fossils would stand to be way deeper beneath the su4face, beyond the range of curious 3xplorers. A dedicated and concerted effort would be necessary to find the layer associated with THAT timeframe

>>158087
>estimates about dating
Listen to Patton, he destroys the companies doing radio-dating by revealing their scam. Truth is that there is not precise way to date the fossils or sediments, at best we can get only very subjective estimates.

>>158088
Well, LIDAR might be useful in that regard, but IDK that current LIDAR arrays have enough intensity to penetrate to what I estimate would be several thousand feet down, and theres no telling if it would detect fossils.

>>158089
>Well, LIDAR might be useful in that regard,
Nope, it is useful for topographical tasks by scanning the surface' "shapes". It is not related to dating and can't penetrate under surfaces.

>>158090
That just reaffirms the inability to reach down to the layers associated with the timeframe. When you factor the idea that planet X has been round here countless times, causing comets and meteors and volcanoes and earthquakes, burying fucking everything anywhere from every 400 years (according to skeptic) to every 12k years, I suppose you could calculate how low one needa to go using derivatives, but yes; its absurd to think dinosaur remains are found in the first 100' of the surface, outside them being deliberately placed there by other lost societies, who may have been displaying them in their OWN museums, later to be found by modern culture, who had non idea what was going on here.

>>158092
>>158092
>When you factor the idea that planet X has been round here countless times
>planet X
IMHO, there's no space, therefore there are not any planets.
That said, some people say that that hypothetical Planet X might be actually the Black Sun in a Flat Earth framework, in other words, to the sun and moon, a third celestial body might be added to the picture. Of course all this is pure speculation without substance.

>>158136
Well, alleged in the video series here >>158014 ancient cultures had free energy devices from which Tesla derived his designs. Its been indicated that the pyramids themselves - specifically the Giza platform - are (were, the functionality has been eliminated deliberately) such a device/array. Moreover, it is alleged that such devices can be found worldwide in various historical contexts; 8000 years here, 6000 years there, 120000 year over there, etc.

https://youtu.be/QMrqjFRUy5Q
>More from Max Igan
He is not wrong about a literal magic spell.
>magic
His words, not mine; what he refers to is metaphysical science, which is at the heart geddit?! XDDD of this developing project.
You might liken magic to an 'undetectable force' who's operations can be observed but the operant 'particles' are undetectable.
I apologize for the slightly inaccurate terms; More accurate terms exist, but would be more confusing outside of a very thorough breakdown that Im disinterested in affecting atm
That 'undetectable force' is largely what separates alchemy from chemistry. Since its so evanescent always wanted to use that word its operations and function easily escape most researchers in the chemistry field, and yet is all too well known to quantum physicists, whonhave observed how particles conform to the expectation of the observer; the observer is a direct and not passive participant in said experiments.

These factions and groups and bloodlines and what have you have maintained full knowledge (collectively, and more or less in a factional basis) of metaphysical science, based off carefully and meticulously preserved/sequestered records. The vatican, for example has huge vaults of the stuff. 'The masons' (which are a dozen different affiliated groups, each group possessing a piece of their share of the puzzle, thats why they have so goddamn many degrees) have alot, but theyre kinda low on the totem pole compared to Catholicism and Judaism.
And it IS everywhere, it IS a 'magic' spell to imprison the mind, body, and spirit on a global scale.
However, the magic stops working when you start doing the Work. Because the individual - in their mind, body, and spirit - is sovereign.
What that means is, a person is subject to the spell only so long as they comply.
Covid 19 is a spell too btw, but thats for a later post.
Upon initiation - upon beginning to realize one's sovereignty - one begins the capacity to minimally resist the spell, and that resistence increases in volume and intensity the more one becomes initiated; by initiated, I mean initiated into metaphysical science (the umbrella term for all forms of magic including prayer) through a tradition or a wealth of personal deliberation. Yes, it is possible to effectively self-initiate, however its not truly self as there are imperceptible elements to the equation that guide and direct the individual, but from the standpoint of the individual the process begins in solitary. It is less confusing and more direct to be initiated by a tradition, howeover doing so is more perilous due to the expectations, compromises, and demands of those in, around, and at the head of such traditions. Additionally, operating in a tradition can subject the individual to the 'crabs in a pot' phenomenon where the more a person emerges, the more those who cannot emerge will fight to keep them captive.
Beyond personal sovereignty, there is the concept of Charge.
Everyonr thinks they know what it means to be 'in charge', it means they call the shots. And on the most superficisl understanding of the concept, thats true.
However what it really means to be 'in charge' is to assert righteous authority over a thing.
>Authority - route word Author
>Authority is the knoweldge, wherewithall, and competence necessary to apply creation and creativity in a given context. But thats not all, it also implies (but does NOT require) a commitment toward Willful stewardship.
<ex: I am in charge of my cats. I dont call the shots, except as pertains to their health and perpetuity. I am in charge, and they are my charge.
At a certain point in one's emergence, one gains the Authority to assert (with either direct, tacit, or oblivious compliance) their sovereignty toward others. Again, this doesnt mean calling the shots, this means being responsible to, for, and on behalf of whomever one is in charge of.
<ex: I have the Sovereign Authority to murder the shit out of anything that comes after my cats with malevolence.
Authority is just a less specific way of referring to Metaphysical competence, in this context.
Beware the 'authorized'.

>>156447
Something to investigate.

>"Tartaria" is a myth and didn't exist
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/tartaria-is-a-myth-and-didnt-exist.5803/

>>158265
Tartaria is a bit of a new one for me, and I have only the briefest familiarization with it. In this, I defer to Armored Skeptic; without knowing more it seems to plausibly be the remnants of the mongolian empire.

Sasyexa of Stolen History recently put together a fantastic translation of a transcript by Alexey Khrustalyov, which argues that France (and Europe) could have been Biblical Israel and the location for the events described in the New Testament. It comes with a striking amount of evidence and connections. The dating of the events in my view is pure theory and proposes that the events actually took place in the late medieval period. But what if the dark ages are not a phantom insertion, like many revisionists suggest, but were successfully buried/erased? Link to transcript below. Well worth a read, really interesting.
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/france-biblical-israel.5559/

https://youtu.be/V25uvvkD77M
Just published >1 hour ago

Based or pozzed? You decide.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=or6W4sXpl3c

>>158271
>Based or pozzed?
Depends which side of the knife you are.

>>158271
Being as though - to no one's surprise - you again waltzed into a thread with 0 understanding of the thread topic and not a care to even expend the energy to try and instead dropped an extensive video assuming - again to no one's surprise - you were 'providing content', KYS you insufferable faggot.
Seriously, you are exactly the sort of person who would rightfully be killed in a ritual sacrifice. Why? Because ritual sacrifice was a thing expressly to eliminate genetic dead-ends. Whether it was criminals who cant abide the law, 'parents' who keep having children in spite of mutations and obvious biological affects, livestock that might compromise the integrity and viability of the herd, thats who ritual sacrifice was intended for and to address.

>>158274
In the case of the Aztecs, it wasn't really aimed at undesirables tho, everyone who had their hearth ripped from their chest had to have some degree of "purity" for the Gods, everything from outstanding enemy soldiers and the most beautiful women were subject to this.

not sure if they did this with their own soldiers aswell, but i don't think so

https://youtu.be/PD48H4-y8-E
Monolithic pillar, simply resting on the ground outside a temple in India, where along the building and inside is visual evidence of scientific comprehension of gravity.
This temple was commissioned in the 12th century

https://youtu.be/RXkj0rjJPqM
More from the previous guy, this time featuring a temple in Bangalor, which features massive granite pillars, except these pillars have moving parts.
Its almost like the temple its self is a giant mechanism, ~1263 years old. The video also makes a nod to Coral Castle, which iykyk

Geo-polymer masonry in Finland
https://youtu.be/1AdojH6abW4

Heres a quick rundown of Gobekli Tepe, the 12k year-old site discovered in Turkey, which is rapidly and vastly altering the perception of history around the lower dryas period.
https://youtu.be/s6rzz5RMwU4
The only part of the video that seems disagreeable is the assertion that the site was deliberately buried. This perception is based on the uniformity of the site's burial, however that uniformity is easily explained by cataclysmic inter-solar activity (comet and meteor strikes, such as the evvidence found in Greenland), as well as tumultuous volcanic and seismic activity which would naturally result from the gravitational effects caused by regular (in that 1000 or so years is 'regular') fly-by's by planet X.

To shift gears a bit, here is a concise rundown of the Angels depicted specifically from Biblical accounts.
https://youtu.be/9i3QPva-tdw
The purpose of presenting this video is to convey a/the Christian historical accounts of what are obviously termed to be the 9 forms of the 3 choirs of angels. This is important because as I will later corroborrate the depicted angels are very real, and aside from a technical knowledge gap specifically related to the many cataclysms also referenced and posited ITT, are as accurate as the observer(s) could perceive, recall, and convey to a non-witness.
The telephone-game phenomenon has a major role in these depictions.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I personally have stood before, been visited by, been in the presence of, - however you want to slice it - the Throne(s), on 2 separate occasions. The first was about 20 years ago, and it literally drove me insane to the point that I repressed the memory. The second time was about 2 weeks ago, and I am grateful for the intervening period in that my brain can now process what I witnessed (then and now) without cracking.
Pardon the reference, but I liken the experience to a moment of Total Recall, where areas of knowledge and perception - previously inaccessable as though locked away - suddenly came flooding back, compounded upon by those intervening years and the multitude of experiences that have occurred during that time period. It felt like I had been reactivated in a sense, but from a stable and solid foundation from which to put my perceptions into motion.

All that aside, the underlying purpose of this thread and the materials I have and will present is to emphasize that while a great multitude of knowledge about these materials have been lost (not least of which through cataclysm), it is all VERY REAL. From Christianity, to Hinduism, to the Norse, the Greco/Romans, to Pagan/naturalist traditions, and even indigenous constructs. Its all true. The only thing that separates these traditions and conceptualizations is a comprehension of the minutiae, and a perceptual disagreement on terms, descriptions, and interpretations.

They all just so happen to point toward the next cyclical cataclysm in ~30 years.

Shifting back from Biblical accounts, lets look at the Denisovan line of genetics.
https://youtu.be/knBeCGtDlvU
Archeological evidence of the Denisovan line largely comes from a siberian cave (of the same name) in which a humanoid (alleged to be that of an adolescent) lower jawbone was discovered along with a finger bone, a bracelet (that is orders of magnitude more sophisticated than previously intuited from archeological contructs), as well as a fishbone carved to be a sewing needle. These artifacts date to 50k years ago in the least.
Now, in Armored Skeptic's series he asserts that the Denisovan line hybridized with Neanderthal in a specific manner, producing a hybrid that could potentially isolate certain genes that would result in - you guessed it - giant humanoids such as are depicted throughout the world at various stages in ancient civilization. Imo, he's half right, but thats an argument for a later post.
The point being, among many traits of Denisovan humanoids beyond increased stature are a significantly increased volume of brain matter.
In short, they were a hell of alot smarter than anyone visible today, by way of their larger brains.
It is then theorized that these were the individuals responsible for conceptualizing and teaching advanced concepts which led to some of the monolithic sites still visible today, which incorporate comprehension of advanced levels of Geo-polymer masonry visible in the under layer of Giza (most notably) as well as countless other areas effectively the world over.
And sure enough, all those sites have historical accounts, depictions, and 'records' of giant humans (often praised/worahipped as Gods, or the Sons of God(s)), which happens to follow the elsuive (but not absent) accounts of various groups including the Phoenicians, the Magi, and a variety of other names.
The current largest presence of Denisovan DNA is found in Australian Aboriginals, who sure enough have an oral tradition that includes being visited and taught by giant humanoids, and who maintain those traditions and teachings to this day.

>Electric cars have been around since the 1830s!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb394vvwVvs
This video is the same than >>158136 but with better image.

>The 'Autoped' / Motorized Scooter (1915)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlq4VmfRtg

And a replica built in the 80s of those scooters from the 20s
>Antique Scooter Auto-ped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3iFpuXColU

>>158684
How odd.

>>158717
>Antarctica a continent
OP needs to investigate moar.
Antarctica is a ring of ice surrounding Earth.

>>158718
Fuck off to the other thread, flatty

Meanwhile
https://youtu.be/zhJevMA2tBE

Returning/adding to the concept, a resently browsed video neatly displays two prevailing concepyual designs for the would-be tower structure
https://youtu.be/5LUORU0YpCg

>>158719
>Discoveries In Antarctica Nobody Can Explain!
And of course nobody can verify.

>>158725
This.

>>158725
From whom would you accept verification?

>>158727
The logical answer is that at least one signatory of the Antarctic Treaty must denounce it and open the window for independent, non government related explorers step on site.

>>158729
Non government entities go there all of the time, like Japs with their illegal whaling. Would any of their testimonies be sufficient?

>>158730
>Non government entities go there all of the time
Nobody can go under the 60th parallel without government permission and even if allowed a government chaperon will indicate where to go.
Flat Earthers gotta point.

>>158733
Calm down OP.
If it is about history, then Antarctica's history comes under fire right here because of an extremely narrow selection of available sources. They are all government sponsored and under direct UN supervision.

>>158734
>calm down
Get fucked. If you cant keep flat earth shit in its containment thread, you deserve all the salt.
>Antarctica's history
No contest, poke all the holes you want. Theres enough shenanigens for the whole group to discuss. However, this thread is NOT for one to take the observable inconsistencies and then spin ridiculous theories in which the laws of physics suddenly stop working at a certain point cuz reasons 'and you didnt see it so you cant deny it'-type fantacizing.
Thats what the actual flat earth thread is for.
Its simple. This thread is for refutation of history, THAT thread is for fantasizing about what it 'could' mean (but doesnt, because of those endemic phenomenon I allude to in the redpost, that I really ahouldnt have to specify but hey, current year amirite?)

>>158735
>This thread is for refutation of history, THAT thread is for fantasizing about what it 'could' mean
B-but you are accepting stories without any possibility of confirmation, see >>158717
If the thread is going to have any factual rigor, then I suggest to keep Antarctica out of the question.

>>158736
The only person who could refute that video is someone attempting to assert that Antarctica is an ice wall, something there is no evidence for other than fanciful speculation and visualization.
Im not trying to make auch a claim, Im suggesting there is plenty under antarctica that remains unrevealed, and that video suggests the same thing.

>>158737
I'm not trying to create a polemic, but by fetching Antarctica you're inviting flat earthers. Just saying.

>>158738
Flat earthers feel 'invited' regardless of mentioning Antarctica, they're up there with vegans like that. Having said (not directed at (you))
This post and this previous post >>158733 with dubs should make very clear that flat earth exposition is NOT part of the thread topic, that it belongs in the flat earth thread, and any attempt to do so ITT is a deliberate derail.

>>158739
>is a deliberate derail
I don't think so. But because of your apparent RED triggering, the debate is delayed for another day.

>>158741
Knock it off.

Here's a mathematical key to knowledge that makes for a good, concise reference that will be essential later on
https://youtu.be/OXbVZc10lnk

This in conjunction and as a whimsical caveat
https://youtu.be/PmUMJCF0Rl4

The Dinosaur Hoax!

>>159103
This is full of shit. I have literally dug up dinosaur bones myself.

>>159103
I recognize that voice, thats the guy from all the flat earth videos.
Citation needed, on everything.

And since we're going for citation needed, check these bitches out
https://youtu.be/CNMUeK4PNww
https://youtu.be/s5wnMJTQKl8

https://youtu.be/lheapd7bgLA
Now, the analysis doesnt translate well because in their hypothetical model the moon is in a decaying orbit, which doesnt match the assertion made about the moon colliding with the earth countless years ago.
But.
What it does do is allude to the gravitational forces that would be at play leading up to such a cataclysm. And those gravitational, seismic, volcanic, etc. effects would be exascerbated in the presence of not ONLY the moon, but Planet X as well (the Bible called it Worm/Wyrmwood,... an allusion to dragons and reptiles perhaps?).
<So, the details are wrong, but the gist is the same?
Quite right. Effectively the same degree of catastrophe would be experienced by an earthbound observer, in either scenario, but with varying timelines as many elements would be experienced in a great acceleration.
Like, the video depicts a piece of trash swirling around the drain until it makes contact (its a metaphor, the earth is the center of the 'whirlpool'). My example is a bit more of a shot-put fired at the earth. So, the effects would be more sudden and with observably eponential detectability/magnitude.

OP here.
>>161603
Uhm, lets not get wrapped up in the game of which visual effects are faked.
This thread is more about using scientific (mostly) sources to debunk historical records. Lets save contemporary debunking for another thread k?

I was vague in the OP, so Ill be more direct now.

The increasing preponderence of megalithic sites being detected worldwide make very apparent that our contemporary perception of history on a millennial scale is lacking. The official story is bullshit.
The why of which is attributable to a number of observable phenomenon, ignorance and nescience being the two overwhelming culprits. Artifice can be observed in a sig ificant minority as well.
But Why is less relevant to What.

The evidence increasingly available indicates that ancient cultures had developed a technique/formula for the fabrication of Geopolymer stone-masonry* that surpasses our current technological understanding.

This geopolymer technique can be observed worlwide, with distinguishing consistencies over multiple continents. This technque can be observed to correlate historically with legends and stories of giants/gods, attributable to possibly hybridization between Homo Sapiens, Neanderthals, and Homo Denisovan DNA, which can be traced throughoutbjistory and connect to stories such as the Phoenicians, the Magi, and many others.

Homo Denisovan hybrids can be observed to at least have a significant role in the observable giant skeletons and conehead skeletons that have been discovered in ancient sites, and their increased brain mass can be attributed to their advanced technique using basoc materials.
The idea being, their advancement of technology was based around more intelligent use of otherwise mundane substances contributed to their techniques, such as the use of oxalic acid to shape stone.

These Gods/Giants/Teachers were written as to be the source of agricultural science in the ancient world, as well as the source of written language, and their influence is observable in indigenous cuktures, most specifically in Australian Aboriginals.

But the most important issue IMO is that of cataclysm. The Gods/Giants/Teachers (the denisovan hybrids) established these various cultures amongst indigenous cultures after a cyclical cataclysm involving a huge solar and astronomical event that occurs after a set time. The remaining records and stories are what inspire the stories such as that of the Book of Revelations, Ragnarok, and many more.

And its coming for us. In about 30 years.

Tesla, it can be observed, developed his technology for energy distribution and development based on the scale and construction of the Giza plateau, and contemporary analysis has made apparent that the pyramids may have been similar devices to Teslas; an atmospheroc energy generator, capable of creating an arc of plasma in the center of the temple.

Plasma is the Father, the source of Light which is the Son, enabled and assisted by electro-magnetism which is the Holy Spirit/Mother.

Theough such observances, the metaphorocal/allegorical references in the Bible et al can be rendered LITERAL, and science can finally be said to agree with religion.

Ive studied this shit for decades and its difficult for me to summarize it all comprehensively. The best course seems to be of posting information, positions/explanations, etc. that allude to any of the previous premises.

History is a Lie. We're about to experience a phenomenal event that will knock humanity back to the stone age, outside extensive EM constructs, information vaults, and the calculating/deliberate planning of individuals/groups.

Think about it. If all available technology got roasted by a massive EMP effect - Im talking worldwide - AND geological events (earthquakes, tidal waves, volcanoes) wrecked untold percentages, not to mention the unavailabikity of food, we're talking about deaths in the billions. Now throw a comet/asteroid strike into the mix, and the resumting flooding like what happened during the older-younger dryas period.

Humanity is headed for a great reset VASTLY beyond what Klaus Schwab is proposing

And Imo, the only recourse is to develop a Tesla device that stands a chance of sustaining a community/geneology through such a catastrophe.

Because thats what the story of Noah is all about, and the Arc was actually the Arc of the covenant.

The story of Noah is the story of the builders of the pyramids.

Continuing botht the History isna Lie yhread AND the History is a Lie series by Armored Skeptic, we come at last to the Elephant in the room.

The Devil. https://youtu.be/jUICWp0o8WM

Ima be honest, I havent watched this video but the first 5 minutes, but he's already dropping the sort of truths that one can only derive with a very thorough and lengthy deciphering of occult traditions.

Orthodox Cristians, consider THIS your trigger warning. Beyond here there be monsters.

>>162071
Okay, the video was everything I hoped it would be.
The video makes a very clear case of something the Gnostics died to reveal to the world.
Remember the gnostics? Acloistered and devout group of Christian scholars tasked with exploring the christian tradition through texts and records?
They came up with a very different view of the Christian God of the garden of Eden. They felt that the dictates of God (Yyaldabaoth) in the garden were unreasonable and tyrannical, designed to make humanity always be judged as sinful by God, and it was their very adherence to the rules dictated by God that made them susceptible to be viewed as sinful.
Their view was that the serpent that tempted humanity to eat ofbthe tree of knowledge was either Lucifer (the God or Angel of Wisdom) or some contemporary who was working to challenge the deigns of God and allow humanity to be freed from their tyrrannical existence.
They view that Lucifer AS JESUS came down and spread the gospel, living a life of purity and the most high, precisely to depict to humanity that God was NOT just, that even one most high such as Jesus would be cast down by the God of this world and the world who acted as directed.
And, even though they (the Gnostics) were tasked BY THE CHURCH to delve into theae concepts and records and accounts, they were out to death bybthe same Church, who could neither contest their findings NOR could/would allow such findings to upset the carefully constructed control mechanisms that they had put in place, spanning several apocalypses throughout ACTUAL history, and shaping the societal consensus based upon what they know of/about those apocalypses and how their survival could be managed.
The church KNOWS history is a lie, theyre the most fervent perpetrator OF that lie. What the church has done throughout history is exactly what governments of the world are doing now; manipulating society under false pretenses and shaping the narrative around manipulated events to justify increasing control and dominance.
Now, Im not making the following claim about Christians as a whole, Im talking about the church:
The church has ALWAYS been the church of Yyaldabaoth, the central and originating entity/archetype/figure from whom such observably predatory entities such as Moloch, Ba'al, and others, originate. It has ALWAYS promoted the idea that humanity was to place greater weight and significance on the dictates of God versus their own survival and fullfillment.
'God' has ALWAYS wanted ignorant supplicants, rather than intelligent children, ever since the Garden of Eden. And this is corroborrated by the story of Job.

>>162071
The video has several critical errors, but to keep religion out of this thread I will focus on the errors of symbolic interpretation. The most obvious is Superman as the presenter is completely off on that interpretation. It is true that the red and blue is sometimes used as a black/white shorthand, the red typically being evil or primal and blue being good or pure. However, this conflicts with the narrative that Superman is the Satan that brings liberation as Superman is alien and given power by the sun. Furthermore, Lex is garbed in green and fights the alien force from the sun with knowledge of the skies, the kryptonite that comes crashing down, to stand in opposition to the morality enforcing Superman, literally "above man".

The analogy further breaks down when Lex is the villain, always is shown to be greedy, Superman stands for justice and creates a whole planetary League of Nations out of the "Denisovans" represented by other augmented super humans and the rich that know their truth. The only time the roles are reversed into the favor of the analogy would be when they attempt to explore the fall of superman through corruption and taking justice too far and becoming a near unkillable force of destruction.

There are some others too, such as the constant flipping on if this is all metaphor for the sky to there is reincarnation of these architypes of real people that represent what is happening in the sky/ on earth, and that Satan is real and is Lucifer or just made up. There is no internal consistency which lends to wonderful short story presentation, but nothing more substantial without settling on one end or another.

>>162074
The repeated inversion of roles is referenced and explained in previous videos, but the underlying message is that 'who is the savior and who is the adversary changes from tradition and geography to the same'.
>Superman is alien and given power by the sun
This goes immediately back to the Orion/Helios/Lucifer symbolism, I dont see the inconsistency you're referring to.
The clash of red/blue and green/purple forces - it is alleged - refers back to the cataclysmic event, and the hero's journey is a story where the hero can be attributed with either sets of colors, and either sets of attributes (whether the authority or the challenger). As such, the superman metaphor can be attributed to being either saving or enslaving humanity; I dont agree with his use of the reference in this context, especially given the vast array of more or less canon stories surrounding Superman and how easy it is to mottle the metaphor with small details specific to the Superman story.
Im more concerned with the Gnostics specifically and their conclusions about the Lucifer figure/archetype, how it was consistent with the Jesus figure, and how attempting to follow the commandments of God was a trap meant to damn humanity to perpetual slavery/suppression in the Garden of Eden. When Jesus spoke against the priests, were their faults due to them being false to or devout of to the God of the old testament?

Lucifer is Jesus. Thats what all the ancient traditions taught. They knew and taught about Electromagnetic frequencies, plasma, and light on a fundamental level. They observed and described these using ways and means that we are beginning to understand, as OUR technology catches up with the ability to.comprehend the thousands-year-old remains of the evidence of THEIRS, using what we consider more mundane materials.
This level of technology, when properly implemented and utilized, A. is responsible for the design, creation, and existence of effectively EVERY megalithic site worldwide, and B. is essential to humanity's survival of the NEXT cataclysm, potentially about 30 years out.

The thing about the inversion of stories is such that, the story of Revelations IS the story of the Garden of Eden. The tribulations of Revelations ARE the casting out of the Garden. Theyre all the same thing, viewed from a different perspective, with a different prevailing tradition adhering to the same general recollection of something incomprehensible to successive generations.

>>162081
The commandments were given after the garden, unless you mean the singular rule of don’t eat of this tree, even metaphorically taken, which opens another can of worms, means that man was denied one source of knowledge and therefore wisdom. Wisdom is obtained naturally through experience and not through a tree or a being outside the natural process, that being experience, which is where the problem lies. Man broke the natural order by attempting to gain more for himself, not pondering the implications, and the result, even metaphorically, was the destruction of the true potential of mankind. In the rush to obtain this knowledge of good and evil, man didn’t have the experience to rightly apply it as we can see from the murder of brothers explained in Cain and Able, to the worship of one’s self which expands to sacrifices that reflect that nature, for your own welfare, wealth, and pleasure instead of for others and for restoring relationships. I believe there is even more to it that this, but the metaphorical interpretations limit the text and implications so much that it is hardly worth the effort to try to redefine all my beliefs into such a lens as to be more universally applied.

Anyway, this is sort of derailing. I’ll move to the Bible study thread so I won’t take away from alternative history investigations.

>>162082
>Man broke the natural order by attempting to gain more for himself, not pondering the implications, and the result, even metaphorically, was the destruction of the true potential of mankind
Thats the position of orthodoxy, yes. And it - like history - is a lie.

Lets be more specific. The position of orthodoxy is that God MADE MAN IN HIS IMAGE, which INCLUDES the will to break the dictates (claimed as natural order) of God, resulting in Man destroying the true potential of man.
So Man, being Man, destroyed his own potential. That is the orthodox position.

One can see why the Gnostics, a group given grace to interpret records and theory, without caring which side of the Christian orthodoxy their conclusions led them, concluded as they did.

https://youtu.be/UfKyKM8RXrE
More Gnostic shit

>>161655
>Lets save contemporary debunking for another thread k?
>micromanaging
OP killed this bread.

>>162879
>has something to say a month later
>op killed this thread
Get fucked. If you wanna play the game of "these videos/pictures are faked cuz these reasons", you're welcome to; just not in this thread. Photo evidence does not apply to this thread, as the scope of history is well beyond the historical reach of pictures and film.

>>162880
>just not in this thread.
If it is about fake history, I'm entitled to post.

>>162881
Reread the OP

>>162882
History is a lie, period. Then why in hell you want to narrow the sources to just one gatekeeper, ah?
Why not to explore tons of alternative sources?
By restricting the information flow you are behaving like a snowflake commie. Go figures.

>>162884
Cry moar, start ur own thread with as broad of guidelines as you prefer.
Protip: Next time, consider reading the thread before you post/assume

>>162885
>Cry moar, start ur own thread
I'll post here. Let's see how your pampered safe space goes.

Wow, what a time to fuck it up in so many ways, and waste trips. Oh well.
https://youtu.be/UfKyKM8RXrE
More Gnostic shit. This video covers the separation/reunification reposted and expounded cuz rood of the archetypes, characters, personages, legends, and individuated entities which contempraneously are both referred to as Jesus Christ. And Lucifer.
get to reading/learning newfaggot, theres an underlying biblical correlation you havent grasped. But of course, you'll pretend to have because all youve done so far is bitch about OP? I trust I neednt mention that OP is me.

https://youtu.be/O-MLeh9c4A0
Follow-up to the previous video. These two constitute a quick rundown of Gnosticism. This will be tied into later.

https://youtu.be/YwC70I20w0s
This video covers the Mandela effect, or the phenomenon of false memories and recollection, and how it can lead to anything from false imprisonment, all the way up to rewriting history inaccurately.

>History is a lie.
The first lady men transpocalypse.

>>163018
>Owen Benjamin
Sociopath
>the first ladies look mannish
Ngl, I didnt watch the whole vid, but rly? Fuck off with that shit, find another thread.

>>163018
This is some f the most schizophrenic shit I've seen in a long time.

>>163027
And yet, it is in line with all the fakery around.

>>163028
Still not what this thread is about. Seriously, fuck off with that shit.

>>156447
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yRlA9z6XpFR0/
Maximum jew

>>163039
Good shit anon

https://youtu.be/_bv1wIy-JEo
>Off centered saw cut proves indicates Egyptians had a lost ancient technology
This video, addressing the impossibility of the water-lubricated copper saw explanation for Egyptian stonecutting, addresses a particular stone of (to me) unknown origin. This stone appears to feature an off-angle cut in the stone.
What is interesting to note (and the video goes into more detail) is that its the sort of off angle cut that likely was produced very quickly, as though the method of cutting was well underway before the off angle was made.
To putt it in perspective, its the sort of off-angle cut that one might produce with a skilsaw, assuming one was working with wood; But we're talking about granite.

>>163475
>America from its inception was and is a den of satanists
Yup.

>>163476
Wow, first prize for a lack of comprehension

Seriously, that satement is astonishingly ignorant and misinformed. The statue wasnt even built until 1886. What the fuck are you on about?

>>163477
>first prize for a lack of comprehension
>gaslighting
The country was founded on masonic principles and cult. Only a fool won't see that.

>>163479
Interesting, that's Dugin, an openly satanist rallying Christians against the US.
Controlled opposition looks like.

>>163479
>thinks Lucifer = Satan
>conflates the light of reason with ignorance, and the one who bears the light of reason to all with the source of entropy
>is literally the depiction of a person who refuses reason
Thank you anon, that was beautifully poetic

>>163479
For a cuckbrain such as you, I suggest reading Thomas Paine's 'Age of Reason', followed by all of his writings. There were no (((SaTaNiStS))) during the foundation of the Jewnited Estates of Americorporationland. Do you know what the pissrahelli word (((satan))) means? Of course not, it would be too much for your inbred monkey brain.

A short history lesson: El-Shaitan (phonetically: Ayl-SHAYI-tann) was the Late Babylonian Empire Era greater-deity of FAMILY, CONTRACTS, HONOR, and LAW, a syncretic deity of the El (greater god sons) and the Sh'haiytaun (Sh-hayee-tun, or new-gods, e.g.: various nature deities). You see, a bunch of inbred proto-turkroaches that were kicked out of their homeland about 2,900 years ago became (((das juden))) much later. After their removal, AKA: !!!tHe FiRsT sHoAh!!!, or more correctly: the first time they were kicked out of a country for being inbred bootlicking subhumans, das judes were left stupid. Unable to pass on their religious mythologies, they wandered into what would become Greater (Empire) Babylon. Spending >80 years there, they stole much of mixed Babylonian and Persian mythos for their own, they rebranded, renamed, and utterly cucked over those histories to make themselves das superiorden. By SLIGHTLY changing the name of the most revered Babylonian deity from El-Shaitan to (((sAtAn))), and changing that name to mean (((the enemy))), such created a BRAND JEW SENSE of community! WOW! Such AMAZING (((!!!intellect!!!)))

Ever read the whore-ridden babble in historically accurate context? Of course not. Smooth brains such as you do not realize that the entire babble starts with """revelation""" during the Late Babylonian Empire Era, and ends with """genesis""" during the orthodox cuckchurch era in the 400's, which is AFTER (((Emmanuel))) was supposed to appear, destroy the Romanes go home, and then save all dem gud ol juwz. Good job for not knowing history, goyboy. Take the L train and GTFO.

>>163791
A marvelous summary, and no contest.
That the earth experiences periodic cataclysms is one of the underlying positions of this thread, and a position that modern emergent archeological discoveries concur with.
That the jews made 'an enemy' out of the religions in power wherevery they fled to after being kicked out of elsewhere is well established.
That they spund this generational gaslighting into a 'historical religious narrative' upon which all of the Abrahamic traditions are founded and based upon is something I really hope the Christians come around to, but thats not where my Vegas money is.

This is what (You) sound like OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCV8-5f2lNc

>>163817
But that's missing the point. Why does the Dead Sea Scrolls use sheep skin?
Even that misses the point, there is some fuckery going on with what has gone on basically for all time.
I do know the hostile forces uses specific patterns.
They always tell what they do. The reason why is so more people 'unconsciously' support it. Assisting in, whatever the end result is, the creation process.
They train people to 'play games' that ultimately is self defeating when faced in 'the game'. The means is falsely understanding what truth is and (how when why where in what way ect).
They employ 'small' twists (lies) that turns what they present into harmful material.

They want to gloat. It's more than a need for them that's their ticket.
Proof of their allegiance to hostile powers and proof for them.

>>163818
I need to clarify they break up the information and the message(s) and the keys. They rereference their own things and plunder innocence.

>>163819
That means they use multiple twists on the same base to get multiple messages and effects.
Also they make messages without a real message but can also be shapped.
>I want to cum inside Rainbow Dash
> w nt t c m ns d R nb w D sh
<You wont come an sub Ree on boo wa Dish
<winttR csh nbw ds w

>>163794
The 'cataclysm' you refer to is the 300 year solar cycle (not exactly 300 years: has been as low as 280, as high as 350), where Sol's output decreases. Natural cycles of warming and cooling -> superstitious parasites that make shekels off the gullible -> repeat ad infinitum.

The second is a simple narrative that most people do not try to consider since doing so would be !!!BlAsPhEmY!!! or !!HeReSy!!!. Look what happened to the Cathars. All they wanted to know was whether or not Yehoshua ben Yussef COULD exist in the first place! In the next 10 years, over 23 million Cathars were slaughtered, burnt at a stake, or worse. Much worse, in many cases. The judeo-cathocuck church finds it real hard to redact other countries from writing about genocides that they don't want known.

There's an equally sinister doublethink narrative that most whites, huwhites technically included, do not WANT to consider: that their real enemy is trying to be closer than their friends have been. In short:
How the kikes work: "put a lamb in a big pot (and put the lid on!) then boil it slowly so that it preserves all the agony to be tasted later! Then, take the lamb's sister/brother, then beat and rape it to shove all of (((our sins))) into it! Afterwards burn it to absolve ALL of our crimes so that we can say we've never done anything wrong!" This is known as the "scapegoat ritual".
How everyone else works: "WHAT the FUCK is WRONG with your ENTIRE SUBSPECIES!? In order to sacrifice a creature it must die with as little pain as possible!"

Your Vegas money should flow like this: clearly note that the (((Aztec human sacrifice))) cry was little more than Cortez and his merry band of judeo-cathofuckwits making up shit so they could come back as """heroes of morality""". Afterwards, find every instance of judeo-xtian accusations on "cannibalism" (drink of my blood, eat of my flesh), "incest" (humans were born from "Adam" & "Eve", then later some old crusty cuck and his abused spouse along with his three disgusting cucksons and three daughters), and "blasphemy"... which means absolutely nothing.

tl;dr: melting pot, NOT salad bowl.

tl;dr2: "Those that can make you believe absurdities, can (and often will) make you commit atrocities."

>>163818
Study the use of the 'pleasant little lie' in china, also known as the "good faced lie". It's well known around the world, except for the Jew-US, that chinks have much in common with kikes.

>>164128
>clearly note that the (((Aztec human sacrifice))) cry was little more than Cortez and his merry band of judeo-cathofuckwits making up shit so they could come back as """heroes of morality"""
Although I am fully aware of the irony, I hereby declare that (you) have to go back.

>>164128
The sunspot cycle is 300 years, that is true. However, it seems unsupportable that theres a cataclysm at the end of EVERY sunspot cycle. Armored Skeptic goes into how Nibiru is a crucial factor in the equation, and I concur with his position, while rejecting the idea that
>Natural cycles of warming and cooling -> superstitious parasites that make shekels off the gullible -> repeat ad infinitum.
>>164130
To this point, I actually think it is both.
The sacrifocial practices of the Aztecs not exclusively seems to be something of a given. Having said, I really doubt that the modern socialized concept of Aztec sacrifice has any resemblance to the how/why/when they would perform it, and I absolutely could conceive of Cortez not having the faintest idea, bit going back to Spain and saying whatever he wanted/needed/could in spite of what was the true intent/practice.

>>164156
This way, pal.
>>>/sp/20136 →

>>164157
Noted and replied
An ah thank ye fer yer patronage
As far as the Aztecs et al are concerned, the presence/use of sacrificial pits, rites, etc. seems more of a eugenic purpose; discarding the criminals, the unviable livestock (and ppl, ngl), etc. The Aztecs maintained a tradition based around emergence and efficiency, to my understanding, but again I have no doubt how it may have looked and been interpreted to Europeans when interacting with a local populace with no shared dialect.

>>164158
>An ah thank ye fer yer patronage
No prob
replied too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENwllHqDIE
Is this true OP?

>>164160
Don't ask OP. Sadly he will refuse any idea going too stray from approved narrative. He will even go further and admonish anyone daring to post Tartaria stuff. He is a prime faggot.

>>164161
Sad. Do you think it's true?

>>164162
The nukes? No idea.
What positively know is that history is a big lie indeed.
There was a massive mud flood all around the world and no history book mentions it. Monumental architectonic buildings were build that are inconsistent with the supposedly technology available at that time, think about to transport thousands of tons of materials by horse through mud roads and lifted with wooden cranes, plus no powered tools existed at that time.

>>164163
Yea that does seem rather unlikely.

>>164160
>Is this true?
Dunno. Tartaria isn't my strong suit. Ill check it out, thanks for posting.
>>164161
Who hurt you?

>>158266
This is me "admonishing for posting Tartaria stuff" btw.

>>164160
By the way. The speaker in the video does not offer any rebuttal, only derision funded on his indoctrination. As such:
Do nuclear weapons actually exist, or are they a hoax?
If they exist, where is the missing radiation of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Chernobyl, and thousand of testing explosions in the 50s, 60s, and 70s?

>>164167
Do you often lie when representing anons, or am I just lucky?

>>164169
>lie
>representing
Stick to the facts.

>>164170
Im trying to. Why are you misrepresenting facts? Really would like to know what you're getting at in this one. Any evidence to cite for your hateboner?
>>164161

Whered ya go anon? You seemed to have so much to say until the person you were saying it about actually showed up. Hope you're enjoying your trip tho.

>>164167
It is a Fact that they were indeed Firebombed. As For Nukes existing or not, I'd say they Probably do.

>>164165
Tartaria is Very Interesting Imo.

>>164174
Wait until Flat Earth is mentioned for OP going ballistic.

>>164174
I agree. I find the 1812 nuke theory is a bit of a stretch, especially the specificity of 'nukes', but it can't be ruled out. There are existing theories that focus on 1812, and there are particular anomalies to the recorded history that suggest that at least PART of the history has been manipulated. Whether due to the Mud Flood, or any of the other prevailing theories/ideas, Idfk. Its been suggested that Napoleon never existed and was a narrative to placate the population during the 'last' cataclysm (ostensibly said to have occurred around that time by some).

>>164175
Theres a thread for that, kindly fuck off to it.

>>164175
Why would he do that?
>>164176
Interesting. I However don't agree with the Theory that Emperor Napoleon Didn't exist.

>>164178
>I dont agree
Neither do I, but there's a number of prevailing theories attributed to that year, to do with much of the aspects of recorded/purported history

>>164178
>Why would he?
Pay him no mind, just read the transcripts
>>158094

>>164180
What sort of theories revolve around 1812?
>>164181
Interesting. Planet X being the Schwarz Sonne, would be very unexpected

>>164182
>what other theories
Im no expert, but 1812 comes up alot. Theres the war-bonds Rothschild theories, the native American wars, theres evidence of the Mud Flood and all associable theories. 1812 was a historically contentious year

>>164182
>Interesting. Planet X being the Schwarz Sonne
>Black Sun a third celestial body
It looks like it is according to the freemasons >>158555 →
Also see >>158414 → >>158557 → >>158625 →

>>164183
What is the Rothschild war-bond theory?
>>164184
Interesting, I'll give it a look tomorrow.

>>164188
Cuz ur search engine doesnt work?
https://www.businessinsider.com/rothschild-family-war-of-1812-conspiracy-2013-1?op=1

>>164185
See? OP got mad when Flat Earth is mentioned.
It wasn't me, by the way.

>>164190
Ah. yea I've heard about this one before. It's accurate.

>>164191
Refusing to entertain vapid nonsense is not 'mad', where did you get that idea?

OP check the following out. It is just the tip of something big.
>1902: Key to Predicting the Future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWBT5YHqQfs

The whole series is contained in the following playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKRNOwEa_cDB96nMVnfJO6UIdxdHeM7Ff

>>164709
Will investigate
In the meantime, heres the latest from the thread namesake series
https://youtu.be/Yg0qlnh5I38

>>164717
>Will investigate
Max Igan recommends that guy.

>>164717
>Jordan Perterstein
>malign narcissism
I think you posted the wrong link.

>>164722
Shit, right you are. Heres the cprrect link
https://youtu.be/eHhvEKU1cQ0

>>164709
Okay, the first red flag was the excessively detailed intro graphic, leading into the video, just to sit there staring at the guy cuz he improperly edited the start time of the actual video.
Ngl, not impressed in the slightest. This dude is one of those numerical fags. Not to say theres nothing to numerology, but this guy is just this side of Jim Carrey in the Number 23, pointing to all sorts of "coincidences" to do with dates, years, etc.
He references TONS of 'take my word for it' claims and occurrences(?), WITHOUT citation. Jesus christ, is this how I sound sometimes? Fuck me, Ill work on that.
All in all, I give it a 2/10. I wont claim he's wrong more or less, or perhaps onto something, but his skill as an orator renders this video virtually unwatchable, a least to me.
>>164719
Thats disappointing, ngl

Shifting gears for a moment, I want post something from today, by Jordan Peterson (NOT by accident, this time).
https://youtu.be/7pd0HLeYKsE
This video ties in - antithetically - to yesterday's video abouthe whore of Babylon.
The first hing to mention is concept, and this is one I must heavily qualify.
As a self-described Luciferian, I have no idea what JP is talking about. Admitting, my knowing experience with Luciferians - human adherents, that is - a single digit number, and I allow hat there most likely is an over representation amongst actual Luciferiams, to do woth social manipulation, corruption, and materialism. Yes, Im about to "Not a True Scotsman" probably most practicing Luciferians.
Luficerian tradition has absolutely ZERO to do with manipulation, corruption, and ESPECIALLY materialism. Why? Because these things are artificial and false, and diminish the person's relationship with Truth, with Logos.
Luciferianism is an EMERGENT path into which one takes ultimate and personal responsibility for their own emergence in he trifecta: mind, body, and spirit.
It is impossible to prey on others while responsibly and dutifully emerging. It would be like trying to fir a laden camel through the eye of a sewing needle.
More to come, I just don wanna lose wht Ive got so far. Again e_e

A Luciferian does not see themselves as greater than ANYTHING, as this is a LIE. His goes for humans, animals, plants, etc. A Luciferian sees themaelves as operating in a physical framework in which matter necessarily is converted into energy, at the expense of something else.
So, whether animal or plant, a Luciferian has an INCURRED DEBT for the food, resources, and self-preservation that they employ. This is not something that can be absolved, only come to terms with.
When a Luciferian experiences abundance, there are two considerations. 1. Is to maintain - sustainably - the abundance. 2. Is to share ye abundance.
This means BOTH maintaining sufficiency AND dispensing as much largesse as possible.
This is due to the Luciferian perpective of Hierarchy.
The capabilities of two people will never be equal, so one will naturally outdo another in one or more contests.
>To the victor go the spoils
Conventional wisdom says that the producer is entitled to the product. Communist 'wisdom' says that the spoils are to be shared evenly. Nazi wisdom says that he producer has an obligation to provide for the nation and it's people AND themselves as the producer.
This is based on the idea that the producer has already proven their ability to produce, and production is good for the nation and its people. At the same time, they also have a responsibility to maintain the means of production because EVERYONE benefits.
Now, 'everyone benefits' ONLY when everyone is being productive, and people who are unwilling to be productive but have the means to are to be stricken.
THIS is the truth - aside from subversion (a whole chapter of it's own) - behind the jewish expulsion from countless nations. A jew will never work for the benefit of a non-jew.
I digress. He point is to emphasize: a Luciferian producer does not horde or amass in any material sense. In fact, the few I know are broke, because they are constantly reinvesting their produce!
I digress. He point has been to suggest that:
1. Much as I appreciate his work, JP is woefully misinformed about the fundamentals of Luciferianism. I dont contest the truth of his words regarding particular Luciferians, nor that they are in the probable majority. But the BEHAVIORS he attributes to Luciferians is as intellectually consistent as lumping ALL feminists together and tarring them that they're ALL like 3rd wave feminists (which was successfully accomplished by plenty of groups.
And thats the problem.
Everyone is agreeing with wht 'Luciferians do' without taking the time to learn what Luciferianism is actually ABOUT, from which one can observe one or more and be able to distinguish between legitimate (ardent, consistent, etc) practitioners from false ones.
And this is a position I maintain for EVERY religion; the number of legitimate adherents is ALWAYS but a fraction of the 'whole'.

>>164736
>Everyone is agreeing
Not necessarily true.

>>164737
Fair. Though obviously hyperbolic I should have gone with:
>with exception, everyone
But that doesnt refute my point. "Everyone" "knows" that 'Luciferians are le bad', but their "knowledge" is based on rumor, off hand account, and LIBERAL biased/unsubstantiated report/interpretation. The reputation Luciferians 'enjoy' bears not the slightest resemblance to what a 'devout' Luciferian 'is'.
To wit, imagine being a conservative who is castigated by everyone, and when the charges are read, what is deacribed is the actions of a militant leftist.
To wit, I imagine Brett Kavanaugh comprehends this phenomenon.

Peterson was a self-proclaimed atheist for years, at least on paper. He trusted in the 'cult of personality, oft used by apologists, virtually the same as those whom worship Tiny Dick Mao, Stalin, that crippled swekike FDR, Carter, Fauci, Killary Klinton, Schwab, etc. etc. etc. He did not, and does not, understand that the Satanic Bible, as well as Anton LaVey's Luciferianism, are a set of symmetrical moral guides based on the Golden Rule dating back to Middle Empire Era Babylon: "do to others what you would have done unto you". In other words: don't be a nigger and expect to be treated like a kang.

Both sides, along with numerous morally convergent atheistic, mock the irrational, hyper-superstitious judeo-immorality of the babble. Ever read the torah? Guess what: that's the first five books of your "bible", except that most of the "bible" is backwards. Start reading at 'revelation', end at 'genesis', you'll start to see the problems. Ever read any mishnash, midrash, or mishnahs? Guess what: most of the ones that mattered were rewritten into 'sermons', 'prayers', and various incidents that have never been accounted for in proper history

Here's a test. Read the following excerpt and ponder whom wrote it:
"Injustice is a sin. Nature has constituted rational beings for their own mutual benefit, each to help his fellows according to their worth, and in no wise to do them hurt.

When those about you are venting their censure or malice upon you or raising any other sort of injurious clamor.. ..it is still your duty to think kindly of them; for nature has made them to be your friends."

Ready to learn whom stated this? Marcus Aurelius in his book 'Meditations'. Yes, a (((pay-again))) naturalist-atheist whom studied religious morality and found little that was agreeable. Specifically, he found the faux-tribalism caused "muh gawd ken beet up UR GAWD" chest thumping to be nothing more than self-righteous ego; "I DO what I DO becuz MUH GAWD SEZ TO".

If one has not read the Satanic Bible, do so. Unless you do, realize this: Peterson does nothing novel by latching onto traditional judeo-xtian apologism and proclaiming his righteous ignorance while at the same time frothing at the mouth about "dem bad goys". Fuck him for being a hypocritical, double-standard, plagiarizing grifter.

Over 100 sun/spring/light/nature deities were recorded as dying at the end of a year in fall or winter, then being resurrected in spring. Thousands of holy days are counted across the world to honor them. For each cultural period, one can find thousands of minute differences between even their own deities. If there is a singular deity in charge of this world, the most reasonable, coherent, and logical one would be Epona. Yes, that is "A Pone" backwards.

>>164817
>Ever read the Torah
And the Koran, and the Bhagavad-Gita, and whatever book the upanishads are in, and the Tao Te Ching, and dozens of others, more or less scripture, including the Satanic Bible, the Talmud, and Magick (Crowley) to name several
>Marcus Aurelius
Alas, all that came to mind was the Hymn to Jupiter
>A pone
Never noticed that til now

At last, we come to the end of the History is a Lie apocalypse series, and we're going out with a bang. But that wont be for 30 years
In the meantime, I'll turn it over to Armored Skeptic as he finishes his decoding and exploration of Revelations, as well as other apocalypse stories and works which - when correctly decoded - align across traditions, geography, and time.
https://youtu.be/jTHIwJ7V9Gk

>>164970
Pure satanic heresy.

>>164977
Only to one who has been fed a lifetime of misinformation and incorrect decoding of a sacred text that once represented the pinnacle of human knowledge, the Bible.

>>164978
https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Armoured_Skeptic
"After falling for a cult, a catfish, and changing his religion because of youtube videos, Greg showed everyone how truly incredulous he is by signing a deal to promote an obvious scam site without reading the contract."

I doubt that this guy has our best interests at heart. But to say that someone that scammed people out of money and doxxed them can't give trustworthy information is a fallacy. Perhaps he is just well informed.

Another interesting tidbit of this reveal would be the tree of life is a focal point of the Kabbalah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life_(Kabbalah)
Sure, it is in other religions as well. It would be foolish to say it must be that specific interpretation. I mean, it isn't that the Kabbalah, unlike any other religion, actually says that the tree is a metaphor for the universe or something...
"To Kabbalists, it symbolizes that point beyond which our comprehension of the origins of being can't go. It is considered to be an infinite nothingness out of which the first "thing", usually understood among Kabbalists to be something approximating "energy", exploded to create a universe of multiple things.
After the energy of creation has condensed into matter, it is thought to reverse its course back up the tree until it is once again united with its true nature: "Keter". Thus, the Kabbalist seeks to know himself and the universe as an expression of God and to make the journey of return by means of the stages charted by the spheres, until he has come to the realization he sought."
Drat. I sure hope that this Jewish mythos is coming out of ignorance, and he isn't actually of Jewish descent or something like that...

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Armoured_Skeptic
"He read the Bible constantly and believed it to the point where he was willing to follow Biblical Traditions and adopt the beliefs and lifestyle of the Messianic Jews, a type of Christianity that combines many Jewish traditions, even though it was the most craziest version of Christianity and followers of the faith itself are known to live in off-grid mountain communities."

Well, fuck. So now we have a bit of a problem. OP is suggesting that the Jews are both right and the one performing called himself God and has revealed part of the Jewish Kabbalah to follow. Do we pursue this, despite the contradictions in the text, all to ignore them for this metaphorical interpretation that just so happens to align with Jewish supremacy? Perhaps we can learn something from it. But to call it the truth and the Bible is misinformation when it contradicts the Jewish story being told to us, that everything is secretly Kabbalah... that's just insane.

>>164981
I take it you missed his clear Baphomet gestures?

>>164984
Nope, he has been doing that from the beginning though. I was referring to this specific episode and giving references. That way it can't just be dismissed as a coincidence.

>>164985
Just making sure you're not a hit and run
So, wikipedia is pozzed and ED isnt cuz... reasons? Your doubts are quaint though.
>tree of life
Yes, if you arent programmed to think that not-bible = the devil (thats esp funny if one has grasped te series) then perhaps one can grasp the wisdom of the tree of life, such that even the jews opted to assimilate rather than burn.
You really dont understand your adversary. You think you do, which is why you fail.
Same goes for Kaballah, btw, and you lot languish in ignorance, on pretense of emergence and righteousness. If you knew your folly, you would be ashamed. But of course, better to see the devil in a mirror, right?

>>164988
>pozzed
Would you like another source?
"As a child, Fluhrer was a member of a Messianic Jewish cult. Fluhrer describes the members as very nice people, but extremely deluded."
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Armoured_Skeptic

>Everything that is not the Bible = devil
Thus, me referencing the exact interpretations from the Kabbalah that connects to the video is irrelevant because.... reasons? How so? He said the tree of life means the energy of the universe creates matter and through it we express ourselves as an extension of God. This is mirrored perfectly in both the video and the reference I provided. It is like he is getting his information from this type of source.

>Jews opted to assimilate
That doesn't speak to the credibility of the source. After all, everyone says that the Bible is Jewish propaganda and since they use it, it must be evil... so what is the excuse for this religion? Because it makes everything Jewish Kabbalah? Seems like a lateral move. I would take Epona over this.

>You don't understand your adversary
Well, I know enough to reference the exact area this guy is pulling his interpretations from, which is Jewish. Why are you deflecting if I don't understand? Surely if what I said wasn't true, misleading, or ignorant... you would just reference how it is wrong. Instead, I have the references, the connections, and the evidence and you have namecalling. This is what I would expect in an uneducated Christian, not a well-established arcane student.

>you would be ashamed
>devil in a mirror
Again, more namecalling. Can you actually refute what I have provided? I am not asking for a brilliant destruction of all my points. A simple, you misunderstood his message here and this is why what he is saying isn't Jewish Kabbalah would be nice. Are you capable? If not, this is a sign of ignorance on your own part, projecting it onto people that argue against you. Reminds me of the flat earth thread to be honest. Endless pointing the finger when evidence has been provided and no answer. A shame to be honest.

>can you refute
>more wikis
Son,....

>>164970
>>164981
(OP) >take what is useful from his material and apply it pragmatically, while discarding the rest.
So third party source, ie /vx/, claims the kabbalah is something more fundamental then the Jewish claims on such a thing.
Something called-wait for it-Planetary Magic. Suprise! It uses the Greek or Roman names of the planets and is better in general.
Why? Hebrew mysticism is laced with traps and poison and smoke and mirrors and enough bullshit to seriously hamstring anyone without (((direct and approved))) supervision.
However I'll not get into character study of him.
Keep an eye out to see if he gets wacked at some point.
As above so below. The general description of everything sums up the vital points in regards to the apocalypse message(s).
Too many connections to esoteric matters briefly touched/nudged/hinted/gestured/estimated to not just to through all out.
However caution is advised because when esoteric that actually gets near 'Actual Occult Traditions extending far back in time' the chance that everything is as it is without any kind of fuck ups (intentional or not) is low for those not experienced and practiced. (Kind of like an instrument and a calculator with wacky symbols.)

So brief shitpost on planetary magic (see BearHeart /Grand Order Of the Draco Slayers /Temple of the machete that wins all battles).
The tree of life PLANTARY MAGIC describes the energies and locations and beings that reside there.
Our solar system is made specifically for us (or vise versa but whatever). The energies and behavors of the planets have a correlation here in the physical, mental and spiritual.
Because the Occult is/was supposed to be science just hidden knowledge of the phenomena dressed as stories, fables, myths, magical workings or axioms is a possibility.
Point being, stuff outside our solar system is janky and wack as all get out. Our solar system especially our Sun (physically, metaporically, spiritually, mentally ect) rids the presence of those fucks.
It's as if the rest of everything else was Lovecraftian but a cheap knockoff that a stare a poke and firm no makes them dissolve. We're anti-thetical to their existence.
So they want to remove us. More to the point they want to remove the Sun aka the Light.
In every way possible. Now considering just about everything here yeets them to nonexistence they have a bit of a conundrum.
So the simple solution is proxies. Lots and lots of proxies.
That's not to say they don't try and reach through by force they do that too.
Is just so happens Jews tend to also use proxies (puppets, useful idiots, 'just for the X' ect)
The magnetic happening along with the grand solar minimum with myths and legends that fit together is enough to get my attention raised.
As creator beings (or if you prefer as servants in the image of God) to imitate / create what is above/below (inside/outside, bigger/smaller, left/right, ect) what occurs. However fuckery is abound and the 'chess game' of the world is entering the phase where (((they))) are on a dead line to deliver.
The point being is happening and has been happening. What do?
Steel your body.
Strive for the mental apex.
Realize your soul and spirit.
Use everything you have in the right way with considerations for yourself and surroundings.
Pull your sword from the stone.
Become self governing.
Become the ruler of yourself and your domain.
Respect yourself.

>>164995
Are you going to answer?

>wikis
Yes. This biography information is typically on wikis. Do I go a buy a book on his life to generate a better response?

>>164997
You got your answer

>>165001
Then you are dogmatic and close minded. I thought you studied this stuff, and the Bible was misinformation. Surely there was a reason you came to that conclusion. Surely it isn't as simple as you are wrong because I don't like it.

>>165004
>Well then you're a pissy pants
Duly noted. The Bible is a collection of ancient stories, what varies is interpretation. I never besmirched the Bible specifically, what I mocked is people's presumption of an infallible interpretation, based on <200 y/o propaganda.
And still, try
>you're wrong cuz I don't like it
Is that what you see? Then it must be so. Surely your eyes don't deceive you.

Bear witness and understand, ye laymen; I will not spoonfeed. I shall give keys, and what is done with them is up to (you). Whether you try it in a lock or stick it uo ur ass in defiance, has no bearing on me or the content.

>>165008
And the Kabbalah is absurd Jewish supremacy propaganda that inverses the Bible to their own profit. Your promotion of it is telling that you haven't thought through your belief structure as you have chosen another Jewish medium that uses a Jewish medium to say that all mediums are their own.

>Is that what you see?
If you don't argue your points, that is all there can be. This is the stuff that people mock Christians for, as you admit to. You are taking another ancient story book with various interpretations if you want to take it all as metaphor, then saying it is the key to understanding. The height of hypocrisy that all else is propaganda, when you take your evidence from Jewish sources.

You have implied me to be a hit and run, uninterested in debate, then you moved to dismissal and insults, and now...
>>165010
you say it is too complicated and you have no reason to argue. This is exactly what a religious fanatic would say, which you denounce in "200 y/o propaganda".

I bear witness to your own damnation as you think yourself elite, above all in understanding, unwilling to share wisdom and unable to give aid to those that seek it. You share a link to a personality that stole from people and was raised Jewish for teaching. You immediately condemn all that argue against you. Yet, you preach wisdom and universal connection. This is folly.

>>165010
Heheheh.
I see you're picking my route. I should remind you I don't exactly claim to be right by that, I can't. Instead, I simply extern my utter indifference to the given discussion.

I'm a spoonfeeder I deliver highly processed gibberish that may or may not be true. Regardless if all else the spoon which is all words of mine can be eaten, but would you give everything over to a person who's error rate is statistically significant who also speaks in multilayered messages across time and space and context and all else?
How deep does the rabbit hole go? Only as far as you need and want and no more for you unless you have need or want to continue.
Is the feed of the spoon a mere challenge? Why not? For that interpretation for (You) might be true too.
Am I just shitposting constantly? Possibly, it's a fun option.
Is it every option? Well that's for you to decide or even if you care.

>>165011
Lol, Kabbalah predates the Bible, fren
>ur saying ur interpretations are betterer
In simplicity, yes. In complexity, exhaustively. Gotta do the work tho.
>you think you're
I warned about interpretations
>I bear witness to
Cute. Unimpressive, however. A sovereign would not deign to attempt such an assertion, out of self respect. You think you can gripe about not being spoonfed? With credibility? A fool. Can you not see past a video link, and intuit the ourpose of its posting? More difficult, yes. Still a fool.
I dont condemn that they argue against, nor them for it; I dismiss their arguments on their face. And, I do so from a position that affords me the privilege. Its an earned privilege, you probably wouldnt understand. But if you would and would hear from me, your strategy/approach needs work.

>>165013
Sorry, who are you?

>>164996
>>165014
A surprisingly insightful set of posts. Salud

>>165015
>It predates the Bible
So... even less truth worthy Jewish fables from your own admission, being propagandized by a Jewish scammer? Is that what you are going with?

>you think you can gripe
I think you are unable to provide shit. Clearly if you could, you would. But you say you can't be bothered, when nothing would prevent you other than your own lack of understanding or disinterest, which speaks volumes to the reliability of your religion. If you don't give a damn, then why should I?

>I don't condemn
>>164988
>hit and run
>pozzed
>programmed
>>164995
>quoted a source, ugh
>>165001
>you got your answer, dismissal
>>165008
>ancient stories, despite using ancient stories
>propaganda despite referring to propaganda
>>165010
>Bear witness, I will not spoonfeed

Yes, you clearly condemned me from the outset. You did not even give an ounce of argumentation. You just have blind faith.

>I dismiss their arguments
Clearly without argumentation. Your dismissals are that of a child. No facts, no counters, just namecalling and avoiding the questions.

>I do so from a position that affords me the privilege
A position in authority that you can't debate or question that shows the truth to a lesser people group... hmm... where in the hell have I heard that before? It couldn't be any corrupt religious order at all. Certainly not.

>an earned privilege you probably wouldn't understand
I would if you would actually respond once in your life.

>your strategy needs work
All things in life can be improved, but I think it did a fine enough job at revealing the truth of who you are.

>>165016
>Who?
The only thing that holds this place together it seems.
Bullshit aside, I heard hit&run and I couldn't resist, sorry. Irony ain't lost on me.

>>165020
>less worthy
And yet, they knew it to be of intrinsic value, such that its inckusion persists, while outliving the Torah. Yep, nothing to see here.
No, not an argument.
>I think
Evidence not forthcoming, and not requiring validation/refutation.
No, (you) condemned yourself, I responded in kind.
>clearly without argumentation
Oh? Is there a standard then? Perhaps a bible I can swear on or some such? Would that 'authenticate'?
>position of authority
Do you comprehend the word? Its not a hard one.
>respond dammit, reeeee
No. For one, you havent established your sovereign right to Know. Thats important, btw. One cant just 'demand', one has to comprehend *why* they have a right to know and THEN articulate it. You've failed both criteria, thus far. For two... we'll get to that.
Ive made no illusion of myself or my actions/intent, and have been orders of magnitude more transparent than those who have clung to arbitrary designations of 'status' or whatever they desire to call it. You have wasted your effort in getting me to repeat myself.

Bully. Perhaps you havent yet learned that w

>>165026
>bully
Eh, Im leaving it in. It was a discarded argumrnt

>>165026
Now there is a right to know. Any other religion worth a damn is open and free to research and asking will get you all info you desire. I guess you, the priest of Kabbalah, have turned me down because I am not worthy because I questioned you. I consider this a mark of honor. I did everything you claimed I could not, while you proved yourself to be the substance of everything you thought Christianity was.

This isn't state secrets. It is supposed to be a religion. Secrets in religion is how you build corruption. And you are the best example of that. You claim to have something important, but you have nothing. If that wasn't the case, you would reveal it. If you choose to withhold it and you did have it, you either do it to spite those that question, or you do it to keep those answers to yourself and your chosen. This is corruption.

>I have been more transparent
What are you smoking? You have denied explaining anything about yourself. You link some videos, say it is true, then get fussy when people call out a problem.

>you wasted your effort in getting me to repeat myself
All you do is repeat yourself. You never say anything new. You never explain yourself. You never have a conversation. It is your way or the highway. If that is how it is, I want nothing to do with whatever you are offering.

>>165028
Priest nothing. I have studied and have comprehended. Am I a priest of Islam because I comprehended the Koran? Foolishness.
You are not worthy by your own hand, not mine. The petitioner has a responsibility. Yours is not met, simple as. Cry moar.
If you know not of my transparency, you should lurk moar.
>Its your way or the highway
Oh, you have me confused with staff, lol

>>165029
A priest governs the relaying of the information in the religion. You are the self-appointed priest by your own admission. You get to judge who does and doesn't get to be taught it. You have deemed yourself the right to judge who is worthy or not. Your own words.
>>165026
"For one, you havent established your sovereign right to Know."

I have simply asked why this is extremely Jewish. You have determined this to mean that I am not to be answered and to be ignored. Why are you afraid to answer this question? If it is true, then there is nothing to fear.

>>165030
Incorrect. I judge who is worthy of a spoonfeeding; anyone can learn.
What do you mean when you say extremely jewish? Be thorough.

>>165031
The fact that the video you linked is directly tied into the Jewish Kabbalah tree of life explanation of the universe, while claiming the Bible secretly points because of a Roman execution method. This is subversion, which is fitting by the presenter being Jewish and has conned people out of money. So, I conclude that this information is dubious at best, and harmful likely seeing what the Kabballah promotes.

>>165032
Congratulations, you fail basic decoding. And you wonder why no spoonfeeding.

>>165033
Congrats, you failed to respond. And you wonder why I call you a priest.

>>165034
What more is needed than to indicate where you have rendered yourself unfit?

>>165035
How is my claim rendering me unfit? What even is the meaning of unfit? Why can't you answer the question, flat earther? How long are you going to deflect?

>>165036
You do not recognize yourself as a petitioner, and so you make demands. Comprehend that.

>>165037
What did I do to be unfit? That I didn't immediately accept what was told to me? It is oddly similar to Jewish Kabbalah. Why? Answer the question.

>>165038
The answer is encoded, have fun

>>165039
The answer is that you are avoiding the question, flat earther. There is no reward for dodging like this. You have the opportunity to give answers to people that are curious. You can't even do that.