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>>126114"Why do i work for them? I do it Because i Love my People and i Think It is what is Best for us going forward. i do it because the monarchy failed us."
>>126116"What about other peoples? Do i wish to harm them? No i Don't. But Equetria is our birthright. it wouldn't be here if it wasn't for us,our ancestors. The Strength of The Earth Ponies,The Intelligence of the Unicorns and The Ingenuity of the Pegasi. We simply wish to live as other peoples do in their own homelands. As they maintain their own future for their children so shall we.let me say this, You love your family,but that doesn't mean you want to hurt or destroy other families."
>>126117"So what of the other creatures already in Equestria? And what of other nations?"
>>126118"They will be payed a small amount of money to leave on their own. a very ponemane solution to the problem. No Pony has to be harmed to make it work. it would also work to Help them as they adjust back to living in their ancestral nations, or another weapon of their choice.And If they Have Friends here and or wish to see the sights of the Country they would be welcomed in again. My Brother was the first pony to tell me about the things wrong with the Monarchal system and the follies of Social Democracy."
>>126119"And what exactly is wrong with the Monarchy? Social Democracy too, if you have the time"
>>126122She's looked guarded and reserved the whole time. There's a light offense, but not a serious anger"Well, you came to me asking questions. I was just sitting here. Let's start with the Equestrian Regime before the war"
>>126123"Ah ok. yea that'll work."
"Well For one The Princess and Her Student. Started Caring about the rights of their own kind than less than the other creatures. As well,as Her "Majesty's" Incompetence in dealing with most things. such as dealing with threats to the former kingdom like changelings."
>>126124"Let me ask you a question. When you lower yourself towards the ground and lower your voice, so as to not scare away a cat, or maybe a small, terrified child, and to get them to come to you - are you not caring about yourself?"
>>126124"Well, let's see about threats. They defeated a moon goddess, a chaos goddess, the Changelings the first time, an eccentric dictator wanna be wizard, an ancient magic eater escaped from hell, the Changelings a second time, and oh yeah, they defeated an emperor who conquered most of a continent. Then in the final invasion, they held the Changelings back for a good while. So did they fail to deal with a threat, or were they stabbed in the back when their former colonists invaded?
Im getting tired, i'll post more later.
>>126135Technically no, just a really coot bat
>>126136Is nice bat
>>126137Giggity Tango, I'm coming for that mango!
>>126125"I'm Not sure i quite understand the question."
>>126126"Oh please. the only reason that happened is because twiggy and poneetes were there to stop the threats."
>>126141"And were not Twilight Sparkle and her friends a part of the government? As for the cat, I'll ask a different way. Have you ever crouched down, made yourself look smaller, or used a higher pitched tone of voice, so as to not frighten an easily frightened cat, or a small child?"
>>126142He touches his chin in thought
"No. i can't say i have. i hate cats."
He Grins as he drinks his whiskey
>>126143"As for children?" She asks, mildly perturbed
>>126144"I haven't exactly interacting with any children."
>>126145"Alright, I'll approach this a different way. Does friendship provide strength?"
>>126147"And do nations need to be strong?"
>>126148"Yes,Where are you going with this?"
He asks Curiously
>>126149She nods, and moves her back away from the seat where it rested after Dark Star's previous answer
"So wouldn't spreading the value of friendship, and cultivating friendship among the nations, increase Equestria's power?"
>>126150"And what Nations specifically?"
>>126151"That's a question of prudence, and the answer is really going to vary depending on facts of the given situation. What I mean is, it's a question of policy , not principle. But the short answer is: any nations that may be hoped to adopt our values in time, and requite our friendship"
>>126152"And when you say Our values what do you mean?"
>>126153"I mean Harmony. The universal values of friendship, kindness, and generosity. The values of Equestria."
>>126153>>126154Silver listens quietly to the discussion.
>>126154"Those aren't our values anymore. We're Fascist now. and the local government is socialist."
>>126156She places her drink down, and puts a claw to her cheek
"Tell me then. What
are our values -
your values, if something other than friendship, kindness, and generosity?"
>>126157"Kindness towards our pones, Strength,Honor,Order,Etc."
>>126158"Strength? Order? Honor?"
She smiles
"You're sounding more like a griffin now"
>>126155From the right, Jubilosa slowly walks in, first looking at Dark Star and Undertoe talking, then to Silver
"Can I sit next to you?"
She asks him
>>126159Silver looks over at the griffon, and smiles.
"Of course."
>>126160She smiles back at him, then scoots into the booth, sitting down next to Silver. She looks back to him, smiles, and glances back to what is going on with Dark Star and Undertoe
>>126159He frowns slightly
"Oh Please what do they know about that?"
>>126161Silver joins her in watching.
"I always found political talk to be little bit draining, you know?"
>>126162"Order? Honor? Strength?"
She tilts her head back to the booth with Johann and Blue Skies
"Go ask them yourself. I get the strangest suspicion you never have"
>>126163"Heh, a little."
She smiles at Silver
"My parents were supporters of the federal system. I had more of an affinity for the syndicates... but that may just be because the griffs I went to school with were. It can be a it draining, yeah"
>>126164"I have always been Harmonist, myself. It was what my father learned in Royal Guard, and he taught it to me. I do not know much of syndicates, though."
>>126165Yes. She is
>>126166"Huh. Oh. Well, you see, Equestria has a monarchy. Had a monarchy, anyways. Sort of still does. But what I mean is that Sycameon doesn't. Everything is decentralized. Well, it mostly is. But there are syndicates that own granaries, the larger commercial farms, and run the government, were every griff has some sort of say in it."
>>126167He considers this for a moment, then nods.
"That sounds very nice. It can be slow, I imagine, getting everygriff together to make collective decisions, but it sounds like it would make for free, happy population."
>>126168"How do you make exceptions for them - well, for all of us - but still hold the general rule?"
>>126169"Well, the town near where I lived made a requirement that you have to show up to be counted, and a certain portion of the members of the syndicate had to be there for certain proposals to be passed, but yeah. It was a very carefree, happy population. Maybe not as wealthy as Skyfall or the Pony Colony, but... easy going. Not at all like the griffins beyond the mountains"
>>126170Silver smiles at her moreso.
"It sounds like people I would get along with happily. Like you."
>>126171"Heh. After what I've seen tonight, I think so. It's a very different experience with what I've had with ponies before. During the invasion..."
>>126170what do you mean how? i just did it."
>>126173"Well, you say griffins don't value Honor, Order, or Strength. But it seems like you've only ever had a conversation with two of them. And you think those to may value order, honor, and strength. So why do you not believe that if you spoke to more of them, you'd find that many of them are like those two?
And for that matter, why did you sign to take all of us, and give us asylum, if you don't want all of the many poor creatures who have lost their livelihoods to be able to seek asylum?"
>>126172Silver puts a hoof on her back, giving her a pat.
"I know I had nothing to do with it, but I am sorry."
>>126175She is pat, with shorter fur above feathery wings
"I know... I like you, though"
>>126174"why did i sign to take you all? its because,i don't think any. creature should suffer like that i've fought beside those 2, i know what they are about."
>>126177"And I think that if you gave all griffins the benefit of a doubt, you'd find that many of them are like that. Perhaps even most"
>>126178He seems a little shocked
"you do realized it was a griffion group that foalnapped you right?"
>>126179“Oh I know...”
She presses down her beak in a particularly bitter fashion
“But they are outlaws even in their home countries”
>>126180"No,Those are the typical archtype. they slaughter innocent ponies all over the world,as well as Other Creatures."
>>126181She winces
"Then why is 'Imperial Inquisitor Johann Lictschild'" She says that in a mocking kind of way "sanctioned by his gvernment, while Maakie and the cultists were hunted by their's?"
>>126182"The Inquisitor is different,as i said before."
>>126183"But whatever he is, must be valued by his society, otherwise they would have never put him there. They would have a put in power a griffin more like you suppose them all to be"
>>126185"I dont think this topic ig going anywhere."
>>126186"Alright then"
She takes a drink
"The ball is back in your court"
>>126187"So whats it like being a hippogriff?"
you did say she was a hippogriff right?
>>126188Yes. She is candy apple red, with an indigo mane that is straight, clearly washed and brushed, and bushed behind her head in a curve, and with light, purple eyes
"Well, I've never been a pony or a griffin, so I don't have much point of comparison, but I imagine it's kind of like being a pony. What's it like being a zebra?"
>>126176Silver actually lets out a little "d'awwww", and hugs Jubilosa with the leg he was patting her with.
"I like you too, Jubilosa."
>>126189"I Have been craving watermelon."
he laughs
>>126190"Heheh"
She moves her shoulders up in a way that makes her feathers on her neck fluff up
She smiles back at him as she is pulled closer to the unicorn's chest
>>126191"Uheh"
She gives a light laugh that betrays a sort of discomfort, as if she is laughing to go along with him
>>126192"I have to admit, I will miss this when you do make your way to Aquiliea."
>>126193"Yeah, I see"
Another couple details. She has black socks on her rear hooves (though those would not be visible) and a golden necklace with a design on the end that she is not wearing, but rather has wrapped around her left arm above her claw
>>126196"This?"
She holds her claw up. On the end is a small metal piece shaped like a dolphin, with small gems in it giving it a bluish color
"Do you want it?"
>>126197"want it? but don't you want it?"
>>126194"Heh"
She smiles again
"I may just miss it too. But until then, let's enjoy the moment"
>>126198"I was going to trade it, but your companion gave me money. So I don't need it"
>>126200"Let us say someone gave it to me"
>>126201He raises an eyebrow
"Oh,interesting. who gave it to you?"
>>126202"Someone I do not care to remember, and let us leave it at that"
>>126199"I would be happy to enjoy this moment with you, Jubilosa."
>>126203"If you don't want it i can take it off your hooves."
>>126204She leans on him, her head on his neck
>>126204>>126202Glistening Glass has walked over to the end of the bar, and turned on the Jukebox. It's a sweet song, popular on the radio
>>126205"Then it's yours"
>>126207"That much, huh. Deal"
She reaches her claw out, and swipes the bits closer to her. As she s completely naked besides the socks, she does not place it in any bit pouch or pocket
>>126206Silver hums softly with the music, and looks at Jubilosa.
"...Perhaps you would like to dance? I am not best dancer, but..."
>>126209"Sure"
She looks at him with a night naughty look, before returning her expression to something softer
"This is a much slower song than I'm used to"
>>126210He leads Jubilosa out onto a clear part of the floor.
"It has been while since I have danced at all, but I would be glad to do so with you."
>>126208"Its been a nice chat undertoe, if you need to talk again,you can talk to me."
he stands up
"would you like a room here? i'll pay for one for you."
>>126211"It has been some time for me as well... How do you dance like a pony?"
>>126212"A place to stay for the night would be nice, but your companion has already been plenty generous to me."
>>126215"The Unicorn. Silver Sword is his name, I believe. The one with the griffin. Thank you for the offer, though. Maybe there
is generosity in you"
>>126216"believe it or not,beneath this tough exterior is a generous pony."
he smiles
>>126213"It is mostly about careful placement of hoofsteps in specific pattern while facing your partner. How do griffons dance?"