That's right random anon who happens to read this post, it's /vx/'s third DnD campaign!
>What's this one about?
Chaos Ascending is an epic level campaign for DnD 3.5e. It takes place roughly 10,000 years before Celestia and Luna assume rule over Equestria. Technology is at a medieval level plus magic of course.
Equus during this era was a land of peace, the ponies and few other creatures inhabiting Equus living in harmony. The gods of this realm, know to the ponies only as The Unknown Ones, decided that nothing would disturb their harmony and moved on; only granting their power to the most dedicated of ponies. Soon, the ponies' society expanded across the planes. A Utopia was built on its own plane, serving as a hub of travel, politics, and trade. Ponies lived in happiness, nothing to disturb them. It was a land of peace and harmony, but rumors existed. Rumors that there were ponies who thought that harmony was worthless. Ponies who wished to disturb the order of the planes. Ponies who wished to ascend the agenda of...
Chaos...
>How long will it last?
Until I can progress through the entire story, which should take at the most three months of weekend play and about two months at the least, or until Atlas personally smites me. Whichever comes first.
>When does it start?
This is an advance notice so players have time to build characters, ask questions, and seek GM approval. The campaign will start in 2-3 weeks.
>When will we play?
Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. And then only if all players are available.
Here are the guidelines for building a character:
Level: 25
Sources for classes, feats, spells, etc.: Any as long as they are approved. No breaking my game
Wealth: 35,000,000 GP
Stats: Point buy with 34 points at your disposal. Buy your stats then apply racial stats. Here's the calculator I use: http://www.propelled.de/extern/chargen
Races:
Evil characters are not explicitly banned, but chaotic and neutral evil are HEAVILY discouraged against.
Earth Ponies:
+2 Str +2 Con
One maxed out skill related to cutie mark.
Earth Ponies receive Toughness as a bonus feat.
Earth Ponies can hold a two-handed weapon with their maw. Light weapons can be held with hooves.
Pegasi:
+2 Dex -2 Con
One maxed out skill related to cutie mark
Glide: A pegasus of any level can glide when falling at a speed of 40ft, negating all fall damage. This ability takes affect even when unconscious, though the user takes 1d6 falling damage.
Flight: A pegasus can use their wings for flight with a speed of 40ft (good maneuverability) beginning at lvl 5.
Pegasi can use two-handed weapons by holding it with their maw and using a wing to help maneuver the weapon, sacrificing flight. Light weapons can also be held with a wing, sacrificing flight.
Unicorns:
+2 Int -2 Str
One maxed out skill related to cutie mark
Unicorns receive Eschew Materials as a bonus feat.
Unicorns have two "handslots" using the magic of their horn, these extend to 10ft of reach. Two-handed weapons can be used with a unicorn's maw and a handslot or both handslots, either way rendering them unable to focus their magic on other tasks. Light weapons can be held in each handslot.
Crystal Ponies:
+2 Con -2 Dex
One maxed out skill related to cutie mark
Crystal Composition: Crystal ponies can turn their bodies crystalline, invoking different sets of bonuses and penalties. In this form they receive a +3 bonus to AC, and +3 to fortitude saves. As a tradeoff they take a -2 penalty to the following checks: Reflex, Swim, Tumble, Hide, Move Silently. This ability can only be activated 1/day.
Crystal Ponies use two-handed weapons by employing their maw and one hoof to control the weapon. This reduces their speed by 5ft.
Kirin:
+1 Wis +1 Cha
Nirik: A kirin's temper can ignite, making them rash and fierce. 1/day a Kirin can fly into a fury of emotion, turning into a Nirik for 1 round per level. This form grants the Kirin a +4 bonus to attacks, +1d4 fire damage to melee attacks, but invokes a -3 penalty to any wisdom related check or save.
Kirins have two "handslots" using the magic of their horn, these extend to 10ft of reach. Two-handed weapons can be used with a kirin's maw and a handslot or both handslots, either way rendering them unable to focus their magic on other tasks. Light weapons can be held in each handslot.
Bat Ponies:
+2 Wis -2 Cha
One maxed out skill related to cutie mark
Glide: A bat pony of any level can glide when falling at a speed of 40ft, negating all fall damage. This ability takes affect even when unconscious, though the user takes 1d6 falling damage.
Flight: A bat pony can use their wings for flight with a speed of 40ft (average maneuverability) beginning at lvl 5.
Dark vision to 60ft
+2 racial bonus to listen
Bat Ponies can use two-handed weapons by holding it with their maw and using a wing to help maneuver the weapon, sacrificing flight. Light weapons can also be held with a wing, sacrificing flight.
For those looking at the divine classes here's the pantheon:
The Unknown One Above All Earth Ponies
The Unknown One Above All Pegasi
The Unknown One Above All Unicorns
The Unknown One Above All Crystal Ponies
The Unknown One Above All Kirin
The Unknown One Above All Bat Ponies
The Unknown One Above All Dragons
The Unknown One Above All Evil
After the gods of old moved on, their names fell out of common use and slipped from memory. Now known only as The Unknown Ones, their clerics and paladins are often of the same race. Though there are always exceptions to the rules. Domains are not set, except the domains of Death and Evil, which are restricted to The Unknown One Above All Evil.
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Well, I'm in.
Should I just dump my stats/info right here in the thread?
I've got a Mythweavers account.
Should I just dump my stats/info right here in the thread?
I've got a Mythweavers account.
>>106545
Glad to have a player.
I'd prefer it if you just dumped it here since I don't have an account.
Glad to have a player.
I'd prefer it if you just dumped it here since I don't have an account.
>>106550
I'll just put it through the Mythweavers format and type it into something a bit more presentable.
I'll just put it through the Mythweavers format and type it into something a bit more presentable.
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This is quite a surprise all things considered, but we could.
I'm up for it.
So the classes shown in the OP are the only playable ones, right?
I'm up for it.
So the classes shown in the OP are the only playable ones, right?
>>106579
ignore the missing flag
I'm assuming you mean races, so yes. The six mentioned are the only ones, no griffins or changelings.
Exceptions can be made if you can convince me they're similar enough to the mentioned ones (like yaks to earth ponies or something).
If you did mean classes, you can play anything you want. Wizard, hexblade, crusader, I'll leave it up to you.
ignore the missing flag
I'm assuming you mean races, so yes. The six mentioned are the only ones, no griffins or changelings.
Exceptions can be made if you can convince me they're similar enough to the mentioned ones (like yaks to earth ponies or something).
If you did mean classes, you can play anything you want. Wizard, hexblade, crusader, I'll leave it up to you.
I have my mythweavers sheet just for basic combat data (for convenience). It should be viewable without an account.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1928284
I just need to plug in feats and class features to the combat mods. I'm still looking at some changes I want to make.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1928284
I just need to plug in feats and class features to the combat mods. I'm still looking at some changes I want to make.
>>106609
You were correct in your assumption.
I am not sure if this time is appropriate but do the characters level up further along the campaign, and if so at what rate?
You were correct in your assumption.
I am not sure if this time is appropriate but do the characters level up further along the campaign, and if so at what rate?
>>106645
Seeing as we're starting at lvl 25 (300000 XP) I would assume it's going to be a couple major battles before we level up.
Seeing as we're starting at lvl 25 (300000 XP) I would assume it's going to be a couple major battles before we level up.
>>106654
I think I'll try out a thrallherd character, but the 8th and 9th tiers sound rather fun to expriment with.
I think I'll try out a thrallherd character, but the 8th and 9th tiers sound rather fun to expriment with.
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>>106656
Ah, powers.
Thrallherd is an interesting class for Telepaths and Erudites, havining full manifesting progression. Believers aren't that useful at high level, but a Thrallherd can just attract more without penalty when their flocks die off. Mindbender is good too, but that's arcane.
Full manifester progression means you'd probably have room for Epic Manifestation.
Ah, powers.
Thrallherd is an interesting class for Telepaths and Erudites, havining full manifesting progression. Believers aren't that useful at high level, but a Thrallherd can just attract more without penalty when their flocks die off. Mindbender is good too, but that's arcane.
Full manifester progression means you'd probably have room for Epic Manifestation.
>>106663
Great! I will have to read up some of the nooks and crannies the psion class have, but it should be quite fun to use the powers as well as leading some ponies and having some NPCs to compliment the character. I think I'll level up to 20 psion class then, then climb up the thrallherd levels.
>>106664
True, but the thralls have a lot more oomph I think. They should help iron out possible weaknesses by attracting a suitable one, even with the lower level.
Speaking of, how did you boost your stats so strongly?
Great! I will have to read up some of the nooks and crannies the psion class have, but it should be quite fun to use the powers as well as leading some ponies and having some NPCs to compliment the character. I think I'll level up to 20 psion class then, then climb up the thrallherd levels.
>>106664
True, but the thralls have a lot more oomph I think. They should help iron out possible weaknesses by attracting a suitable one, even with the lower level.
Speaking of, how did you boost your stats so strongly?
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>>106666
Digits checked.
Thralls are indeed useful. You probably would want to max out the class to improve your leadership level though. The Practiced Manifester feat can make up for loss of manifester levels.
I had her attain 15th level druid at complex age to gain the timeless body feature, then age to venerable age for +3 to mental stats. At that point she became dragonborn, which reset her body to adult age, then became venerable again for an additional +3. This explains why she's 750 years old, but looks like she just finished college.
Digits checked.
Thralls are indeed useful. You probably would want to max out the class to improve your leadership level though. The Practiced Manifester feat can make up for loss of manifester levels.
I had her attain 15th level druid at complex age to gain the timeless body feature, then age to venerable age for +3 to mental stats. At that point she became dragonborn, which reset her body to adult age, then became venerable again for an additional +3. This explains why she's 750 years old, but looks like she just finished college.
>>106674
Nevermind the whole 'get two different thralls at level 10' deal. That would definitely help out.
Now that is impressive.
Nevermind the whole 'get two different thralls at level 10' deal. That would definitely help out.
Now that is impressive.
>>106675
Two thralls are better than one.
Even believers, though only good for getting AoE'd in combat, are pretty swank if you leech off of them for a near-infinite supply of power points. Believers aren't as easily scared off as followers.
I'm still working on stating my dire elephant.
Two thralls are better than one.
Even believers, though only good for getting AoE'd in combat, are pretty swank if you leech off of them for a near-infinite supply of power points. Believers aren't as easily scared off as followers.
I'm still working on stating my dire elephant.
>>106678
>pretty swank if you leech off of them
It sounds nice, but I think it could be seen as evil, no matter how willing they are, and seeing how we have one good character from the start... it's going to cause some problems most likely, nevermind most outsider ponies who witness that is going to be horrified and see the character as a possible chaos agent or preacher of The Unknown One Above All Evil.
I am still tweaking character specifics myself, especially with all the extra feats I'm swimming over. I have a rough idea of how it acts and its role in combat but there are many details to go over.
>pretty swank if you leech off of them
It sounds nice, but I think it could be seen as evil, no matter how willing they are, and seeing how we have one good character from the start... it's going to cause some problems most likely, nevermind most outsider ponies who witness that is going to be horrified and see the character as a possible chaos agent or preacher of The Unknown One Above All Evil.
I am still tweaking character specifics myself, especially with all the extra feats I'm swimming over. I have a rough idea of how it acts and its role in combat but there are many details to go over.
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>>106680
Thrallherds have a bit of a complicated relationship with morality, being predisposed to use people as tools. The arcane equivalent, Mindbender, requires the PC to be nongood. Whatever you go for, it'll certainly be interesting, depending on how earnestly you treat your believers.
The MMX psion handbook by this guy has some decent tips.
http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5343.0
A Thrallherd pretty much requires you to discipline into Telepath, unless you're an Erudite.
Thrallherds have a bit of a complicated relationship with morality, being predisposed to use people as tools. The arcane equivalent, Mindbender, requires the PC to be nongood. Whatever you go for, it'll certainly be interesting, depending on how earnestly you treat your believers.
The MMX psion handbook by this guy has some decent tips.
http://minmaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5343.0
A Thrallherd pretty much requires you to discipline into Telepath, unless you're an Erudite.
>>106681
This guide is quite handy. Might have to tweak some more things but thank goodness I had the right idea of not going melee, but I almost missed out on the psicrystal due to how verbose it was.
This guide is quite handy. Might have to tweak some more things but thank goodness I had the right idea of not going melee, but I almost missed out on the psicrystal due to how verbose it was.
>>106687
Psions have wizard BAB and 1d4 HP. Don't bother with melee. Epic monsters will always out-melee you (unless you're an Egoist with Metamorphosis).
Psions have wizard BAB and 1d4 HP. Don't bother with melee. Epic monsters will always out-melee you (unless you're an Egoist with Metamorphosis).
You will touch the cowe
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>>106734
I'd wager that the outline of the ears are the fuzzy part, while the outer region is slightly coarse unless pet along the natural hairline while the inner region is smooth. Don't try touching the inside of a cow's ear, please. No one wants either a wet or a dry willy.
I'd wager that the outline of the ears are the fuzzy part, while the outer region is slightly coarse unless pet along the natural hairline while the inner region is smooth. Don't try touching the inside of a cow's ear, please. No one wants either a wet or a dry willy.
>>106507
I would like to play an Epic Spellcaster.
Can I come into the game with epic spells pre-developed, or would I need to do so in-game?
I would like to play an Epic Spellcaster.
Can I come into the game with epic spells pre-developed, or would I need to do so in-game?
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I'll just... place this here. Bear with me.
tfw can't into drawing so pony creator is the only tool I have for character creation.
tfw can't into drawing so pony creator is the only tool I have for character creation.
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>>106799
Ah, I was thinking that.
A nice perk of being a thrallherd is having a large herd of obsessive believers ready to wait on your every whim.
Ah, I was thinking that.
A nice perk of being a thrallherd is having a large herd of obsessive believers ready to wait on your every whim.
>>106800
I'm thinking of playing with that core feature of her character. Not sure how committed I am to it, but it's a little spark.
I'm thinking of playing with that core feature of her character. Not sure how committed I am to it, but it's a little spark.
>>106804
That's pretty much what a Thrallherd/Mindbender is. It's distinctly different from regular leadership.
That's pretty much what a Thrallherd/Mindbender is. It's distinctly different from regular leadership.
>>106805
Perhaps you'll find her as a bit of a more... eccentric case of it. You'll see it when we get started, hopefully.
Perhaps you'll find her as a bit of a more... eccentric case of it. You'll see it when we get started, hopefully.
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>>106824
You roll a die to see if you find clues. If the DM determines that it leads you too an NPC then you may role-play it.
You'd usually be rolling it in urban areas.
You roll a die to see if you find clues. If the DM determines that it leads you too an NPC then you may role-play it.
You'd usually be rolling it in urban areas.
>>106824
Yes.
You roll it, but I might be more inclined to add some extra information if you RP a scene and don't just "I roll gather information in a bar"
Yes.
You roll it, but I might be more inclined to add some extra information if you RP a scene and don't just "I roll gather information in a bar"
>>106843
Darn. I have been lied to. I thought the charisma would increase the benefits even further. I wasn't expecting charisma of all things to be an uneeded stat in the grand scheme of things.
Darn. I have been lied to. I thought the charisma would increase the benefits even further. I wasn't expecting charisma of all things to be an uneeded stat in the grand scheme of things.
>>106869
I don't think she'd want to lose her skin. She may feel uncomfortable, possibly even scarred beyond belief to the point of emotionlessness, like most undead go through.
I don't think she'd want to lose her skin. She may feel uncomfortable, possibly even scarred beyond belief to the point of emotionlessness, like most undead go through.
>>106871
Yeah, it's not my cup of tea either.
Lots of good immunities for Necropolitans, but aesthetics always trump mechanics, imo.
Yeah, it's not my cup of tea either.
Lots of good immunities for Necropolitans, but aesthetics always trump mechanics, imo.
>>106872
Amen, brother.
No one wants their skin off, unless they're some weirdo who has a super strong will and desire to rule forever.
Amen, brother.
No one wants their skin off, unless they're some weirdo who has a super strong will and desire to rule forever.
The last undead character I made was my necropolitan, Spellstiched, half-vampire Unseelie Fey Hellbred Ebola Cleric. She kept her skin and her blood and other, although her body was really just a medium for the 3 dozen different diseases she was infected with. She spread her cult by seducing sleeping with noblemen to infect them, and pissing blood into wells to contaminate groundwater. Those who joined the cult became pestilence clerics and could survive the plague; those who refused perished and were reanimated as obedient zombies.
The campaign never really kicked off for that long after the first couple sessions, but it was a fun character to make. Undead Evil Clerics are badass.
The campaign never really kicked off for that long after the first couple sessions, but it was a fun character to make. Undead Evil Clerics are badass.
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>>106876
It was extremely metal.
I used to think playing Chaotic Evil would be hard, but it was wicked.
It was extremely metal.
I used to think playing Chaotic Evil would be hard, but it was wicked.
>>106877
Something unrelated I've thought about: Can I shoot a crossbow with Greater Psionic Shot and it be a touch attack or am I only supposed to do touch attacks with spells like rays?
Something unrelated I've thought about: Can I shoot a crossbow with Greater Psionic Shot and it be a touch attack or am I only supposed to do touch attacks with spells like rays?
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>>106905
I'm not really that savy on Psionics. The only Psion I ever played was a lvl 1 Egoist, and I only took that level so I could use the Minor Change Shape ACF to disguise the fact that I was a freaking shoggoth so people wouldn't run away screaming.
I actually misled you about having to discipline into Telepath for Thrallherd, btw. Looks like you can learn to manifest mindlink without it, so discipline however you like. Kinecist, Egoist, Telepath, Shaper, Nomad, Erudite; it's all yours. I think Psychic Reformation can even let you change disciplines, but don't count me in that.
That being said, it looks like Greater Psionic Shot requires you to expend Psionic Focus. The feat that turns your crossbow attack into a ranged touch attack is Fell Shot, and it also requires you to expend your focus. There might be a feat out there that let's you expend focus for 2 feats, but idk what it is, and it'd be a waste of precious feats anyway. Maybe there's an item that could do that.
On that note, Psionic combat feats like that are really only for Psychic Warriors, or Egoists who build as melee shapeshifters. As a lvl 25 Psion, crossbows are beneath you. You won't be able to penetrate the damage reduction of most creatures most of the time, unless you really build into it and invest a bunch of feats like that, and even then you have better things to prioritize. Moreso, it's also a waste of actions, since you probably would have something cooler to do with your turn than shoot a crossbow, like melt your enemies' brains, form giant golems out of ectoplasm, or strait up blow things up with your mind. I would strongly suggest favoring metapsionic feats over it, or building into any of those feat tricks you can use to regenerate power points.
I'm not really that savy on Psionics. The only Psion I ever played was a lvl 1 Egoist, and I only took that level so I could use the Minor Change Shape ACF to disguise the fact that I was a freaking shoggoth so people wouldn't run away screaming.
I actually misled you about having to discipline into Telepath for Thrallherd, btw. Looks like you can learn to manifest mindlink without it, so discipline however you like. Kinecist, Egoist, Telepath, Shaper, Nomad, Erudite; it's all yours. I think Psychic Reformation can even let you change disciplines, but don't count me in that.
That being said, it looks like Greater Psionic Shot requires you to expend Psionic Focus. The feat that turns your crossbow attack into a ranged touch attack is Fell Shot, and it also requires you to expend your focus. There might be a feat out there that let's you expend focus for 2 feats, but idk what it is, and it'd be a waste of precious feats anyway. Maybe there's an item that could do that.
On that note, Psionic combat feats like that are really only for Psychic Warriors, or Egoists who build as melee shapeshifters. As a lvl 25 Psion, crossbows are beneath you. You won't be able to penetrate the damage reduction of most creatures most of the time, unless you really build into it and invest a bunch of feats like that, and even then you have better things to prioritize. Moreso, it's also a waste of actions, since you probably would have something cooler to do with your turn than shoot a crossbow, like melt your enemies' brains, form giant golems out of ectoplasm, or strait up blow things up with your mind. I would strongly suggest favoring metapsionic feats over it, or building into any of those feat tricks you can use to regenerate power points.
>>106914
Should I still have it handy if I make the crossbow of deep crystal, as well as a light melee?
In any case, perhaps I should redirect the archery feats for something else, then.
Should I still have it handy if I make the crossbow of deep crystal, as well as a light melee?
In any case, perhaps I should redirect the archery feats for something else, then.
>>106915
Yeah, there are definitely better feats than archery you could invest in. Ranged Combat is pretty basic in 3.5e, imo, since you can't power attack. You'll probably be better leaving all of the mundane battle to your thrall.
The deepcrystal crossbow doesn't take a big chunk out of your money, so you could take it even if you don't use it, since it makes you look good. I don't know anything about Psionic Items, but there's definitely a few you'd want out there.
Yeah, there are definitely better feats than archery you could invest in. Ranged Combat is pretty basic in 3.5e, imo, since you can't power attack. You'll probably be better leaving all of the mundane battle to your thrall.
The deepcrystal crossbow doesn't take a big chunk out of your money, so you could take it even if you don't use it, since it makes you look good. I don't know anything about Psionic Items, but there's definitely a few you'd want out there.
>>106918
By the way, I've changed my mind on being a 20 lvl Psion and 5 lvl thrallherd and instead go for 15 lvl psion and lvl 10 thrallherd since I'm only missing one manifester level instead of two and I do want two thralls now. I have all the offensive magic spells she'll need already.
>>106929
Just note that some offensive spells are redundant, so it's important to make sure you're still versitile. You may be able to swap powers with Psychic Reformation every once in a while, but that costs XP.
Did you pick a discipline, or were you going for an Erudite?
As for manifester levels, you can pick up the ones you lost with the Practiced Manifester Feat:
https://dndtools.net/feats/complete-psionic--59/practiced-manifester--2230/
Just note that some offensive spells are redundant, so it's important to make sure you're still versitile. You may be able to swap powers with Psychic Reformation every once in a while, but that costs XP.
Did you pick a discipline, or were you going for an Erudite?
As for manifester levels, you can pick up the ones you lost with the Practiced Manifester Feat:
https://dndtools.net/feats/complete-psionic--59/practiced-manifester--2230/
>>106930
Definitely telepath. Manifester levels are not too hard for a detriment since the basics are covered for the most part and utility is now the focus, so I won't go for that.
Definitely telepath. Manifester levels are not too hard for a detriment since the basics are covered for the most part and utility is now the focus, so I won't go for that.
>>106931
Note that how much you can augmet a power is based on your manifester level. You'll also need to be manifester level 25 if you want Epic Manifesting.
Note that how much you can augmet a power is based on your manifester level. You'll also need to be manifester level 25 if you want Epic Manifesting.
>>106932
Well, maybe that can be obtained in the late to end game. I think not having it in the early to mid game is not going to cause much trouble
Well, maybe that can be obtained in the late to end game. I think not having it in the early to mid game is not going to cause much trouble
>>106933
That's a fine course of action.
If you keep increaing your manifesting class, you'll regain lvl 25 manifesting at lvl 27, right when you get your next feat.
That's a fine course of action.
If you keep increaing your manifesting class, you'll regain lvl 25 manifesting at lvl 27, right when you get your next feat.
>>106935
Perhaps it could also coincide with character growth, too! That would be nifty for a campaign.
Also, I believe the max manifester level is 9, which is just at level 17! With that, epic manifesting will be unlocked.
Perhaps it could also coincide with character growth, too! That would be nifty for a campaign.
Also, I believe the max manifester level is 9, which is just at level 17! With that, epic manifesting will be unlocked.
>>106936
9 is the Maxiumum level of powers. Psions and Erudites get powers up to 9th level (like sorcerers and wizards with spells).
Your manifester level determines how powerful certain powers are, as well as how many points you can augment them by.
9 is the Maxiumum level of powers. Psions and Erudites get powers up to 9th level (like sorcerers and wizards with spells).
Your manifester level determines how powerful certain powers are, as well as how many points you can augment them by.
>>106937
So wait. You mean each level of psion is a manifester level or is it dictated by something else?
In any case, I think I'll stick with starting with 10 on Thrallherd/15 in psion.
So wait. You mean each level of psion is a manifester level or is it dictated by something else?
In any case, I think I'll stick with starting with 10 on Thrallherd/15 in psion.
>>106938
Yeah, each level in Psion is a manifester level.
Thrallherd taxes you manifester 2 levels over the course of 10 class levels. Your total manifester level is 23.
Yeah, each level in Psion is a manifester level.
Thrallherd taxes you manifester 2 levels over the course of 10 class levels. Your total manifester level is 23.
>>106939
Alrighty. I think it won't be an issue for now. Now that that's settled, I think I'll focus on spells fully now.
Alrighty. I think it won't be an issue for now. Now that that's settled, I think I'll focus on spells fully now.
>>106942
>>106943
Fixed. It should work now, I think.
If not, click this link instead.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
>>106943
Fixed. It should work now, I think.
If not, click this link instead.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
>>106945
I mainly improvised. I still have no clue how I should put the BAB since I have +7/+2 in psion and +5 in Thrall.
I mainly improvised. I still have no clue how I should put the BAB since I have +7/+2 in psion and +5 in Thrall.
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>>106946
Your BAB should be about ~12, iirc. BAB stops progressing normally past level 20, but it's the same as Psion BAB.
I just use that site to post info discreetly, since I'd feel like a dick if I choked the thread with my stats.
Your BAB should be about ~12, iirc. BAB stops progressing normally past level 20, but it's the same as Psion BAB.
I just use that site to post info discreetly, since I'd feel like a dick if I choked the thread with my stats.
>>106949
I think it has something akin to what you want, too, with the statistic block.
[URL=http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661][SIZE=+1]Topaz Tower[/SIZE][/URL]
Female Lawful Good Unicorn Psion 15/Thrallherd 10, Level 25, Init 4, HP 148/148, Speed 30
AC 10, Touch 10, Flat-footed 10, Fort 13, Ref 8, Will 16, Base Attack Bonus 12, Power Points 240/240 Action Points 18
Masterwork, Deep Crystal Crossbow, Light (Bolts, Crossbow) +13 (1d8, 19-20/x2)
Masterwork, Adamantine Dagger +13 (1d4, 19-20/x2)
Abilities Str 6, Dex 10, Con 18, Int 23, Wis 13, Cha 10
Condition None for now.
???
I think it has something akin to what you want, too, with the statistic block.
[URL=http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661][SIZE=+1]Topaz Tower[/SIZE][/URL]
Female Lawful Good Unicorn Psion 15/Thrallherd 10, Level 25, Init 4, HP 148/148, Speed 30
AC 10, Touch 10, Flat-footed 10, Fort 13, Ref 8, Will 16, Base Attack Bonus 12, Power Points 240/240 Action Points 18
Masterwork, Deep Crystal Crossbow, Light (Bolts, Crossbow) +13 (1d8, 19-20/x2)
Masterwork, Adamantine Dagger +13 (1d4, 19-20/x2)
Abilities Str 6, Dex 10, Con 18, Int 23, Wis 13, Cha 10
Condition None for now.
???
>>106956
Subversion successful. You got the bamboozling.
I think it matches hers too, but not in the typical way.
Subversion successful. You got the bamboozling.
I think it matches hers too, but not in the typical way.
>>106958
Ah, don't worry. I thought you were talking about your alignment. I don't think she has chosen a plane to begin with.
Ah, don't worry. I thought you were talking about your alignment. I don't think she has chosen a plane to begin with.
>>106959
I'm playing a Planar Shepherd. The gist of my prestige class is being devoted to an outer plane in addition to the prime material plane.
My PC is a Shepherd of The Blessed Fields of Elysium: a neutral good plane.
I'm playing a Planar Shepherd. The gist of my prestige class is being devoted to an outer plane in addition to the prime material plane.
My PC is a Shepherd of The Blessed Fields of Elysium: a neutral good plane.
>>106960
Ah, another question. Would having deep crystal bolts be a drain on money since it can be focused by the crossbow?
Ah, another question. Would having deep crystal bolts be a drain on money since it can be focused by the crossbow?
>>106962
Pretty sure it's cheaper to just have a deep crystal crossbow. It counts as metal.
Amunition is made in stacks of 50, so each bot costs 1/50 the cost of a permanent weapon.
Pretty sure it's cheaper to just have a deep crystal crossbow. It counts as metal.
Amunition is made in stacks of 50, so each bot costs 1/50 the cost of a permanent weapon.
>>106963
Could I also have the adamantine dagger with the parrying enchantment or does it have to be made with deep crystal?
Could I also have the adamantine dagger with the parrying enchantment or does it have to be made with deep crystal?
>>106964
An adamantine dagger is a decent tool just because it's a knife that cuts any nonmagical substance. I doubt any nonmagical obstacle is going to stop this party though.
Parrying enchantment can be added to any substance, iirc. I don't think it's necessary though. Those MMX handbooks should point you to some good universal items. A Ring Of Epic Psionics would be nifty.
An adamantine dagger is a decent tool just because it's a knife that cuts any nonmagical substance. I doubt any nonmagical obstacle is going to stop this party though.
Parrying enchantment can be added to any substance, iirc. I don't think it's necessary though. Those MMX handbooks should point you to some good universal items. A Ring Of Epic Psionics would be nifty.
I feel like this character is just about ready to be shipped off into the world.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
>>106973
If you feel like something's missing from the sheet, please let me know.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
>>106973
If you feel like something's missing from the sheet, please let me know.
>>107005
Linked power is a good metapsionic feat you might like:
https://dndtools.net/feats/complete-psionic--59/linked-power--1779/
Linked power is a good metapsionic feat you might like:
https://dndtools.net/feats/complete-psionic--59/linked-power--1779/
>>107033
Had to pick up some flaws to get both that and get it metapowered, but it should be okay.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
Had to pick up some flaws to get both that and get it metapowered, but it should be okay.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
>>107034
Hmmm, I only took one flaw. I would easily go for a second one though.
There's also these Epic Psionic feats:
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Epic_Expanded_Knowledge
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Epic_Psionic_Focus
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Epic_Psychic_Meditation
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Epic_Inner_Harmony
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Improved_Manifestation
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Improved_Metapsionics
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Psicrystal_Power
Some of those don't show up on the SRD, depending on which you use.
Hmmm, I only took one flaw. I would easily go for a second one though.
There's also these Epic Psionic feats:
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Epic_Expanded_Knowledge
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Epic_Psionic_Focus
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Epic_Psychic_Meditation
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Epic_Inner_Harmony
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Improved_Manifestation
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Improved_Metapsionics
https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/feat/Psicrystal_Power
Some of those don't show up on the SRD, depending on which you use.
>>107035
Sadly, I only have the requisites for the last one at this point, but these will come into play in the late game, I assure you.
I feel complied to pick them up since it fits her current character well: She never actually fought and never trained her body like a usual adventurer does. After all, she was pampered.
Sadly, I only have the requisites for the last one at this point, but these will come into play in the late game, I assure you.
I feel complied to pick them up since it fits her current character well: She never actually fought and never trained her body like a usual adventurer does. After all, she was pampered.
>>107036
Mages/Psions aren't known for physical prowness. My Druid had 5 Dex before mods.
Good Constition though.
Mages/Psions aren't known for physical prowness. My Druid had 5 Dex before mods.
Good Constition though.
>>107039
Not really. They're just usually single stat dependent, so they can afford to take it easy.
It's martial characters who are dependent on high stats all around.
Not really. They're just usually single stat dependent, so they can afford to take it easy.
It's martial characters who are dependent on high stats all around.
>>107040
Yeah. Monks and the like need their skills, strong punches and swift bodies.
Speaking of, do you have any specific suggestions for thralls? I'd like the first one to be focused on strength since it would be what she lacked. The second one can be anything they party could need.
Yeah. Monks and the like need their skills, strong punches and swift bodies.
Speaking of, do you have any specific suggestions for thralls? I'd like the first one to be focused on strength since it would be what she lacked. The second one can be anything they party could need.
>>107042
The easiest way would be to find some kind of beefy monster with a level adjustment and max it out to as many hit dice as it can have.
The easiest way would be to find some kind of beefy monster with a level adjustment and max it out to as many hit dice as it can have.
>>107043
Right. I forgot she can have monster thralls.
I was thinking more basic, like having a large Earth Pony, but that could work. I'd have to think about the possibilities.
Right. I forgot she can have monster thralls.
I was thinking more basic, like having a large Earth Pony, but that could work. I'd have to think about the possibilities.
>>107047
Yeah. Most dragons dip into Barbarian, Sorcerer or paladin at least once throughout their lives. Some Prestige classes are exclusive to dragons.
There's a lot of content pertaining to dragons as characters in the Draconomicon.
Yeah. Most dragons dip into Barbarian, Sorcerer or paladin at least once throughout their lives. Some Prestige classes are exclusive to dragons.
There's a lot of content pertaining to dragons as characters in the Draconomicon.
>>107067
I had some time to look and I think I could go for a golden dragon. They seem like both powerful and non-lethal enough to be a nice companion for Topaz.
I had some time to look and I think I could go for a golden dragon. They seem like both powerful and non-lethal enough to be a nice companion for Topaz.
>>107068
Just note that a gold dragon's level adjustment changes with age category.
You can also take the dragon cohort feat, to gain an extra Draconic Companion. I think there are a few innately Psionic dragons out there (gold dragons are innate sorcerers).
>tfw can turn into a dragon
Just note that a gold dragon's level adjustment changes with age category.
You can also take the dragon cohort feat, to gain an extra Draconic Companion. I think there are a few innately Psionic dragons out there (gold dragons are innate sorcerers).
>tfw can turn into a dragon
>>107070
Woah there. Don't go proposing Topaz to be her new thrall now.
You are quite right. There are neutral aligned psi dragons that, while their strength stat is less than desired in the age range I wanted to pick them up, still sounds rather cool, especially since they can control their size when they become adults.
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Psi_Dragons_(3.5e_Creature)
I think there's no alignment issues, right? If not, I think I'll go for a young adult of them. Can't say what level adjustment it has, but its CR is 12
>>107071
Best part is these psi dragons can have topaz-colored scales, too!
And they have a lot of colors!
Woah there. Don't go proposing Topaz to be her new thrall now.
You are quite right. There are neutral aligned psi dragons that, while their strength stat is less than desired in the age range I wanted to pick them up, still sounds rather cool, especially since they can control their size when they become adults.
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Psi_Dragons_(3.5e_Creature)
I think there's no alignment issues, right? If not, I think I'll go for a young adult of them. Can't say what level adjustment it has, but its CR is 12
>>107071
Best part is these psi dragons can have topaz-colored scales, too!
And they have a lot of colors!
>>107073
Edit: I found the level adjustment, and it's quite the good news!
I think I'll go for a mature adult.
Edit: I found the level adjustment, and it's quite the good news!
I think I'll go for a mature adult.
>>107076
>>106942
So, GM, can I get away with this homebrew creature? I haven't found psionic dragons in normal SRD or XPH rules, aside from a psion epic prestige class that is only half-dragon and a race of dragons from 3e that I can't find the stats for.
Pretty sure this breed is actually weaker than their normal D&D counterparts, so I think there's no game breaking stuff in there.
>>106942
So, GM, can I get away with this homebrew creature? I haven't found psionic dragons in normal SRD or XPH rules, aside from a psion epic prestige class that is only half-dragon and a race of dragons from 3e that I can't find the stats for.
Pretty sure this breed is actually weaker than their normal D&D counterparts, so I think there's no game breaking stuff in there.
>>107091
>Sometimes
Most of the time.
Ehhhh, I'm trying to stick away from homebrew creatures. But the gem dragons https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Gem_dragon are all psionic. If those don't suit your fancy I'll look at the Homebrew though.
>Sometimes
Most of the time.
Ehhhh, I'm trying to stick away from homebrew creatures. But the gem dragons https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Gem_dragon are all psionic. If those don't suit your fancy I'll look at the Homebrew though.
>>107092
Those are the ones. I can't seem to find what their stats are, so I don't know what I can expect from them or how can I use them. If you have their stats on hand, perhaps I can actually be able to use them.
Preferrably the Obsidian ones.
The Topaz ones are pretty iffy in terms of personality with... Topaz, the pony, so I don't think I'll be able fit them with the character.
Those are the ones. I can't seem to find what their stats are, so I don't know what I can expect from them or how can I use them. If you have their stats on hand, perhaps I can actually be able to use them.
Preferrably the Obsidian ones.
The Topaz ones are pretty iffy in terms of personality with... Topaz, the pony, so I don't think I'll be able fit them with the character.
>>107093
Edit: Actually, after I read their description in Wikipedia, I think Topaz dragons are good in a twisted way, like the overprotective dog that barks at everyone.
Edit: Actually, after I read their description in Wikipedia, I think Topaz dragons are good in a twisted way, like the overprotective dog that barks at everyone.
>>107097
I know, I know, but perhaps they can still act counterproductively if given enough leeway to act with free will.
Still, I said I could go for the Topaz dragon regardless. The issue is I don't have any of their stats. Should I guide myself with the stats of a Gold Dragon, maybe? The psionic side is pretty simple: For each level, get some PP and increase manifester level; Their special attacks are said, too, so that's not an issue, but I lack their core stats.
I know, I know, but perhaps they can still act counterproductively if given enough leeway to act with free will.
Still, I said I could go for the Topaz dragon regardless. The issue is I don't have any of their stats. Should I guide myself with the stats of a Gold Dragon, maybe? The psionic side is pretty simple: For each level, get some PP and increase manifester level; Their special attacks are said, too, so that's not an issue, but I lack their core stats.
>>107098
You could always just Dominate their minds if they step out of line.
You might want to double-check that. I don't think it's manifester level is equal to its hit dice.
https://www.realmshelps.net/monsters/block/Dragon,_Topaz_Adult
This doesn't reveal manifester level. You could check the MMII for that.
http://choisey.free.fr/3.5/Core/Dungeons%20and%20Dragons%203.5%20-%20Monster%20Manual%20II.pdf
You could always just Dominate their minds if they step out of line.
You might want to double-check that. I don't think it's manifester level is equal to its hit dice.
https://www.realmshelps.net/monsters/block/Dragon,_Topaz_Adult
This doesn't reveal manifester level. You could check the MMII for that.
http://choisey.free.fr/3.5/Core/Dungeons%20and%20Dragons%203.5%20-%20Monster%20Manual%20II.pdf
>>107099
Nice! Thanks!
Manifester level depends on the age of the dragon apparently in the MMII, so if I were to pick a 25 year old Dragon (young), it'll have a manifester level of 25.
I'll use the second link you sent me because it is quite better.
Nice! Thanks!
Manifester level depends on the age of the dragon apparently in the MMII, so if I were to pick a 25 year old Dragon (young), it'll have a manifester level of 25.
I'll use the second link you sent me because it is quite better.
>>107103
No.
It's dependent on age category, which is different for every kind of dragon.
And adult dragon is 100-something years old.
No.
It's dependent on age category, which is different for every kind of dragon.
And adult dragon is 100-something years old.
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>>107105
While their stats are indeed different in each age category they have, the age category is the same for all gem dragons, which means the manifester level is the same as the age. Otherwise, Topaz Dragons would have their own age table, which it doesn't.
While their stats are indeed different in each age category they have, the age category is the same for all gem dragons, which means the manifester level is the same as the age. Otherwise, Topaz Dragons would have their own age table, which it doesn't.
>>107106
What I mean is, they don't have a particular age group, and the psionics part indicates that the caster (or manifester) level varies by age.
What I mean is, they don't have a particular age group, and the psionics part indicates that the caster (or manifester) level varies by age.
>>107108
If you're lvl 25, it's unlikely you're going to have a 25D thrall. Thralls are always at least 2 levels behind their masters, and dragons also have level adjustment. I think it was +4 in the Draconomicon.
If you're lvl 25, it's unlikely you're going to have a 25D thrall. Thralls are always at least 2 levels behind their masters, and dragons also have level adjustment. I think it was +4 in the Draconomicon.
>>107109
If that's the case, I think I can go with a young adult, since it's hit dice is of 22.
So far, the level adjustment I see for dragon in the SRD are positive when having wyrmlings up to juvenile in some cases, meaning it actually gets more levels than it would normally, so I think there is no need for level adjustment according to the SRD.
Yes, I know I'm using inductive logic, but I can't seem to find negative level adjustment in any of the dragons.
If that's the case, I think I can go with a young adult, since it's hit dice is of 22.
So far, the level adjustment I see for dragon in the SRD are positive when having wyrmlings up to juvenile in some cases, meaning it actually gets more levels than it would normally, so I think there is no need for level adjustment according to the SRD.
Yes, I know I'm using inductive logic, but I can't seem to find negative level adjustment in any of the dragons.
>>107106
Oh wait, that's for psi-like abilites.
Yeah, psi-like abilites have a manifester level equal to to total hit dice.
I was almost sure that that dragon had innate Psion manifestation though.
Oh wait, that's for psi-like abilites.
Yeah, psi-like abilites have a manifester level equal to to total hit dice.
I was almost sure that that dragon had innate Psion manifestation though.
>>107110
The Draconomicon lists level adjustments for Draconic characters.
Normally, creatures without listed level adjustments are unplayable, but WoTC write in expanded lists.
A positive level adjustment means that it counts as X levels above its actual hit dice.
The Draconomicon lists level adjustments for Draconic characters.
Normally, creatures without listed level adjustments are unplayable, but WoTC write in expanded lists.
A positive level adjustment means that it counts as X levels above its actual hit dice.
>>107106
3/day Shapechange is definitely an attractive feature. It basically means you have access to every monster power in the books.
3/day Shapechange is definitely an attractive feature. It basically means you have access to every monster power in the books.
>>107119
I think with the effective level increase, I'll be forced to take up to a juvenile Topaz Dragon as a thrall, and I think it'll do its job well, since its strength stat is quite large compared to Topaz's, and it works as a competent physical bodyguard, too. Compound that with its ability to, say, change into a pony to act inconspicuous, it'll do its job in bigoted, anti-dragon towns, too.
I think with the effective level increase, I'll be forced to take up to a juvenile Topaz Dragon as a thrall, and I think it'll do its job well, since its strength stat is quite large compared to Topaz's, and it works as a competent physical bodyguard, too. Compound that with its ability to, say, change into a pony to act inconspicuous, it'll do its job in bigoted, anti-dragon towns, too.
>>107127
The Shapechange Ability bis going to be useful no matter what. It's actually kind of absurd that they put that on a monster, since it basically turns the encounter into a thousand different potential monsters.
I guess that's the MMII for you. It's a 3.0 book, and infamous for its whacky and poorly-CR'd monsters. There's a good reason why the removed "polymorph self" and similar spells from the spell-like abilites of every monster that had it in the 3.5e update and replaced them all with the alternate Form ability: monsters that could polymorph at-will were almost unfair to fight and impossible to prepare oneself against, let alone Shapechangers.
I'll sleep now.
The Shapechange Ability bis going to be useful no matter what. It's actually kind of absurd that they put that on a monster, since it basically turns the encounter into a thousand different potential monsters.
I guess that's the MMII for you. It's a 3.0 book, and infamous for its whacky and poorly-CR'd monsters. There's a good reason why the removed "polymorph self" and similar spells from the spell-like abilites of every monster that had it in the 3.5e update and replaced them all with the alternate Form ability: monsters that could polymorph at-will were almost unfair to fight and impossible to prepare oneself against, let alone Shapechangers.
I'll sleep now.
>>107129
Nice. Well, I think we can both agree a juvenile dragon thrall will be a nice first addition.
Now to find another thrall, not to mention her followers.
Nice. Well, I think we can both agree a juvenile dragon thrall will be a nice first addition.
Now to find another thrall, not to mention her followers.
>>107130
Tbh, just make all of the believers lvl 1+ Telepaths. You're the most powerful Psion in the known realmspace, so any other Psion you meet would be empathetically drawn to you.
Believers won't be in combat at all (in fact, you'll want to keep them away from combat so that they don't get dominated/reanimated in battle), so it's easiest to just make them all a uniform class. You could add some Psychic Warriors too if you want.
A Psychic Warrior would be a good second thrall. They're great in combat and make good meatshields.
Actually sleeping now.
Tbh, just make all of the believers lvl 1+ Telepaths. You're the most powerful Psion in the known realmspace, so any other Psion you meet would be empathetically drawn to you.
Believers won't be in combat at all (in fact, you'll want to keep them away from combat so that they don't get dominated/reanimated in battle), so it's easiest to just make them all a uniform class. You could add some Psychic Warriors too if you want.
A Psychic Warrior would be a good second thrall. They're great in combat and make good meatshields.
Actually sleeping now.
>>107092
A question for you GM: Do the thralls who start out as PC characters of the races you mentioned as playable still have the 34 point buy option for their core stats?
A question for you GM: Do the thralls who start out as PC characters of the races you mentioned as playable still have the 34 point buy option for their core stats?
>>107137
Good. I'm building the second thrall ATM.
Should I make a character sheet for the Topaz Dragon if I'm going to take it as a thrall?
Good. I'm building the second thrall ATM.
Should I make a character sheet for the Topaz Dragon if I'm going to take it as a thrall?
>>107138
>sheet
The sheet itself is for convenience. Considering that your thralls are your biggest assets in combat, you'll want to have their stats on hand. It doesn't really matter where you write it down so long as you have it.
>sheet
The sheet itself is for convenience. Considering that your thralls are your biggest assets in combat, you'll want to have their stats on hand. It doesn't really matter where you write it down so long as you have it.
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The second thrall creation has been completed except for items.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1974791
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1974791
>>107145
Tashalatora: very shrewd taste.
Tashalatora Psychic Warrior is one of the better unarmed builds.
Tashalatora: very shrewd taste.
Tashalatora Psychic Warrior is one of the better unarmed builds.
>>107147
Thralls work like cohorts: they have their own equipment as per characters of their effective level.
You'll probably want to load him up with stat-boosting items first.
Thralls work like cohorts: they have their own equipment as per characters of their effective level.
You'll probably want to load him up with stat-boosting items first.
>>107156
Kek, you're right!
Got it. Another question regarding carts and other transportation: Do you know how much a wagon or a cart can carry?
Kek, you're right!
Got it. Another question regarding carts and other transportation: Do you know how much a wagon or a cart can carry?
>>107157
It varies by the kind of wagon, but few factors are relavant besides the carrying capacity of the creature dragging it.
It varies by the kind of wagon, but few factors are relavant besides the carrying capacity of the creature dragging it.
>>107160
Don't make your thrall do mundane tasks like that. That's what believers are for.
A thrall would be capable of dragging a cart, but you're better off keeping him by your side to fend off surprise attacks.
Don't make your thrall do mundane tasks like that. That's what believers are for.
A thrall would be capable of dragging a cart, but you're better off keeping him by your side to fend off surprise attacks.
>>107162
You are right.
I suppose I could use some believers to drag carriers around.
A knowledge caravan
You are right.
I suppose I could use some believers to drag carriers around.
A knowledge caravan
>>107163
If your believers are nomafs, it could be easy for hundreds of them to travel easily with the Astral Caravan Power.
If your believers are nomafs, it could be easy for hundreds of them to travel easily with the Astral Caravan Power.
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I think I'll withhold from extremely fast travelling for now, as I would need the extra time from travelling to read the stat increasing books I'm picking up.
Here's an updated sheet of Topaz and her Psiwarrior thrall.
-Changelist
--Changed Headband of Intellect to Headband of Epic Intellect
--Added Diamond's items which I need to confirm if I can put on both belts and the periapt as well as if he can use Epic Psionics Ring.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1974791
-Changelist
--Changed Headband of Intellect to Headband of Epic Intellect
--Added Diamond's items which I need to confirm if I can put on both belts and the periapt as well as if he can use Epic Psionics Ring.
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1974791
Made Slight changes to Sister's build.
I modified it so that she would have gained Iron Will at lvl 1 in compensation for the Fussy flaw. I removed Iron will from her 18th level feat slot and replaced it with Bonus Domain (Destiny).
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1928284
Changes can be viewed in the Additional Information section. Will import feats to their appropriate listing space later.
I modified it so that she would have gained Iron Will at lvl 1 in compensation for the Fussy flaw. I removed Iron will from her 18th level feat slot and replaced it with Bonus Domain (Destiny).
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1928284
Changes can be viewed in the Additional Information section. Will import feats to their appropriate listing space later.
I really dislike how some feats and classes have useless feat taxes, like iron will or great fortitude. Feat taxes disproportionately impact martial classes too.
>>107219
I just do it out of habit so that i remember what books I'm citing. The drawback is that I habitually only take feats available in the SRD.
I just do it out of habit so that i remember what books I'm citing. The drawback is that I habitually only take feats available in the SRD.
Lot's of epic psionic content in Legends of Athas. I think most of it would only be available at levels 30+ though.
http://athas.org/products/loa/documents/36
http://athas.org/products/loa/documents/36
>>107221
I honestly think I can't fit any of these epic stuff in my character feat-wise, and the items didn't catch my eye.
By the way, I see you didn't place a single spell in the spell list, using most of the Other Notes section to place both permanent and non-permanency permanen/instantaneous spells. Shouldn't you place the permanent spells in the spell list with an added Permanent label?
I honestly think I can't fit any of these epic stuff in my character feat-wise, and the items didn't catch my eye.
By the way, I see you didn't place a single spell in the spell list, using most of the Other Notes section to place both permanent and non-permanency permanen/instantaneous spells. Shouldn't you place the permanent spells in the spell list with an added Permanent label?
>>107222
Your definitly going to want epic Manifesting later. Being able to write your own epic spells/powers is too good to miss out on. I was just reading about a Time Travel psychoportation that was able to displace the subject by 5000 years in the past or future.
>I see you didn't place a single spell in the spell list
As a vancian caster, I automatically know all spells available to druids, so i didn't bother writing them. That section is mostly for spontaneous casters/manifesters.
The permanent spells are just all spells affecting her with a permanent duration, so i didn't really bother with it.
Your definitly going to want epic Manifesting later. Being able to write your own epic spells/powers is too good to miss out on. I was just reading about a Time Travel psychoportation that was able to displace the subject by 5000 years in the past or future.
>I see you didn't place a single spell in the spell list
As a vancian caster, I automatically know all spells available to druids, so i didn't bother writing them. That section is mostly for spontaneous casters/manifesters.
The permanent spells are just all spells affecting her with a permanent duration, so i didn't really bother with it.
>>107223
Thankfully, I can, and with the new revelation that I need to metapower both a power and a metapsionic feat, I decided to go for it as well as some new metapsionic feats as well as Psymbiot since I'm going to surround myself with psions.
Thankfully, I can, and with the new revelation that I need to metapower both a power and a metapsionic feat, I decided to go for it as well as some new metapsionic feats as well as Psymbiot since I'm going to surround myself with psions.
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Behold!
The new and improved sheets (with links to the powers and feats!)
Diamond Hoof (Thrall)
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1974791
Topaz Tower (Thrallherd)
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
The new and improved sheets (with links to the powers and feats!)
Diamond Hoof (Thrall)
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1974791
Topaz Tower (Thrallherd)
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1971661
>>107227
I require your assistance.
Do my believers also get their own money pool or do they actually have their own?
It won't matter either way, but I need to know.
I require your assistance.
Do my believers also get their own money pool or do they actually have their own?
It won't matter either way, but I need to know.
>>107230
They have equipment as NPCs, which is less than half of PC level, iirc.
Note that your total wealth includes everything you own, including your home and travel provisions. Considering that they're all low-level NPCs, their specific possessions shouldn't be relavant enough to bother doing math for. Just say they've got everything they need to make it through the month on their own.
They have equipment as NPCs, which is less than half of PC level, iirc.
Note that your total wealth includes everything you own, including your home and travel provisions. Considering that they're all low-level NPCs, their specific possessions shouldn't be relavant enough to bother doing math for. Just say they've got everything they need to make it through the month on their own.
>>107231
You would be right if I weren't giving them stat boosting items.
Yes, I know it's not optimal and downright moronic but Topaz cares about her believers.
Besides, it should allow for better carriage transportation.
You would be right if I weren't giving them stat boosting items.
Yes, I know it's not optimal and downright moronic but Topaz cares about her believers.
Besides, it should allow for better carriage transportation.
>>107232
Stat-boosting items for what though? They're not viable combatants. You're better off just leaving them with saddlebags and their wealth in gold so that they can buy food every day for a few months without consistently rolling profession/survival.
Stat-boosting items for what though? They're not viable combatants. You're better off just leaving them with saddlebags and their wealth in gold so that they can buy food every day for a few months without consistently rolling profession/survival.
>>107233
See, I thought about making them shapers, who at first level get astral construct which can be boosted in level for 2 extra power points each, while not explicitly stating they need a higher manifester level.
This is why I would increase their intelligence score by +6 and their strength score by +6. Honestly, me and the two thralls have enough money to spare to buy rations for all of them including us for 20 years comprised of 31 days each if I were to buy a banquet for every single believer and thrall.
That would cost 12,350,400 btw.
See, I thought about making them shapers, who at first level get astral construct which can be boosted in level for 2 extra power points each, while not explicitly stating they need a higher manifester level.
This is why I would increase their intelligence score by +6 and their strength score by +6. Honestly, me and the two thralls have enough money to spare to buy rations for all of them including us for 20 years comprised of 31 days each if I were to buy a banquet for every single believer and thrall.
That would cost 12,350,400 btw.
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Note that giving lvl 1 NPCs is kind of begging creatures and other NPCs to rob them moreso than helping them out believers/followers don't gain XP: they're not exactly career adventurers. You can obviously protect your followers, but you won't be with them all of the time. They could all benefit from saddlebags, personal carts, travel provisions, sets of masterwork tools, winter clothing and other necessities more than they would be able to utilize heroic equipment.
Of course, it's your character, so do whatever you think is the most interesting. I just thought it seemed like unecessary work.
Pic unrelated.
Of course, it's your character, so do whatever you think is the most interesting. I just thought it seemed like unecessary work.
Pic unrelated.
>>107234
>increase their intelligence score by +6 and their strength score by +6
Low level NPCs wouldn't be able to afford such equipment anyway.
You could also give them Hidden Talent, or any of the other feats that give you bonus power points.
>increase their intelligence score by +6 and their strength score by +6
Low level NPCs wouldn't be able to afford such equipment anyway.
You could also give them Hidden Talent, or any of the other feats that give you bonus power points.
>>107237
Darn, I thought I had a nice idea going.
Alright, I want the level 1 peeps to be the ones to move the carriers. What do you suggest?
Darn, I thought I had a nice idea going.
Alright, I want the level 1 peeps to be the ones to move the carriers. What do you suggest?
>>107238
I would say make them nomads. Being capable of joining an Astral Caravan is probably going to be essential if you're serious about taking this herd on epic adventures without half of them being picked off by random monsters.
I would say make them nomads. Being capable of joining an Astral Caravan is probably going to be essential if you're serious about taking this herd on epic adventures without half of them being picked off by random monsters.
>>107239
I read that there's going to need some hoof-holding to actually go along the planar dimension.
I assume every single believer must carry saddlebags but can't into carts, wagons or carriers then?
Damn. I wanted some off-time to read the stat-increasing books.
I read that there's going to need some hoof-holding to actually go along the planar dimension.
I assume every single believer must carry saddlebags but can't into carts, wagons or carriers then?
Damn. I wanted some off-time to read the stat-increasing books.
>>107240
You can probably come into the game having already read the books. Just be sure to nite them as part of your equipment costs.
Believers can probably pull carts themselves, but it's not really something you'd need to be too specific about.
You can probably come into the game having already read the books. Just be sure to nite them as part of your equipment costs.
Believers can probably pull carts themselves, but it's not really something you'd need to be too specific about.
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