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How do we answer the Facebook question?
Anonymous
No.8462
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On April 1st of 2017, this glorious shitpost of a board was born. /mlpol/ became a renaissance for the oldfag cultures of both /mlp/ and /pol/ while creating its own explosion of new content, the two communities of tenacious autists finding a chaotic symbiosis: /mlp/ content drove away the """based""" redditors that had infested /pol/ since 2016 calling anyone they didn't agree with a "shill" and were impossible to hold a conversation with; and /pol/ content drove away the derpibooru/Twitter tourists that constantly shit-up the place with their blatant disregard for 4chan culture and basic chansite etiquette, while pretending native users weren't really true members of the fandom.
In our solidarity, the Anons of /mlpol/ have found salvation from the hordes of redditors, shills, bots and booru tourists. We've persisted for 6 years since then, satisfied with having a small community with quality discourse and memes, and for a while, it's been great.

BUT

In the past couple years, we've seen infiltration by something much, much worse than redditors or booru tourists: Facebook posters. It started slow, just around the time the pandemic era mixup hit, begining as a small trickle before devolving into a cataclysmic torrent of unrelenting boomer-tier spam. A look at any of the threads on the board reveals their pestilent posting style, always the same meme-spam and antagonistic shit flinging when their abhorrent posts are scrutinized in any critical way. It suffocates quality discussion and drives away users. Perhaps some of us noticed early on, but didn't say anything because we wanted more users and hope they would assimilate over time (that's why we deleted rules #1 and #2), but they didn't!
The problem has gotten too noxious to ignore any longer, so that raises a series of questions:
How did they get here?
Is /mlpol/'s resistance to offboard shitposters not as we thought it was?
How much of our board's culture has been damaged by this?
How can we fix what is broken?

And most importantly

HOW DO WE ANSWER THE FACEBOOK QUESTION?
52 replies and 18 files omitted.
Anonymous
No.8516
8517
>>8512
>Whenever I spew low quality stuff nobody wants to touch it
>everybody should be posting one message every second
>people who don't like my low quality spew are bad when they say they don't like it
>I am the only one who posts every second
>They somehow shut down posts by making more posts
You totally ignored my point, and you only think your way is the right way.
>>8514
>major participant
Spewing diarrhea everywhere is not something to be proud of.
>Not everybody is posting every second
I would rather one single almost great post once a year than your spam.
I and many others desire quality.
Your spew, refuses to produce quality.
Anonymous
No.8517
8527
>>8516
>I and many others desire quality.
And yet they themselves post nothing. Irony of ironies.
>Your spew, refuses to produce quality.
I do my best, sorry if your quality checks are triggered.
Anonymous
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>>8512
The issue, which you seem unable to ever completely grasp, is that this really comes down to quality vs. quantity. Quality posts take time to compose, and quality discussion is usually slow because it requires people to take time and think through a problem. Board speed will decrease exponentially if you have a smaller number of posters participating.

Conversely, if users are just responding to each other with recycled memes or one-line no-u-style arguments, the board moves quickly but produces little worth reading. The speed might be attractive to a certain kind of poster, but that kind of person is mostly just looking to shitpost or get into pointless shouting matches; in other words, it's the kind of poster that this board was created to avoid. The problem with favoring a fast-moving, low-quality style of posting just to boost post count and engagement is that eventually serious discussion gets buried in memes and shitposts. This is basically what happened to 4/pol/, and I suspect the problem would persist to some degree even if all of the bots and shills were banned.

>Complainers are not posting, therefore they already vacated the place and the vacuum they left is being filled. They are continuously interfering with an active poster while adding butthurt to the board. In a nutshell, those anons only have the purpose of braking and shutting posting down.
The problem with this kind of thinking is that you're still focusing on quantity of posts rather than quality. Your rationale seems to be that low-effort spam is better than no posts at all, which I would argue is doing far more harm than good.

What you're essentially doing is filling the board with shit, to the extent that the only thing worth discussing is the amount of shit everywhere. So, naturally, discussion turns away from normal topics, and devolves into an endless meta-argument about what amount of feces is acceptable to have smeared all over the place. You take this as evidence that without your shitposts the board would be completely dead, and so continue to smear shit all over everything while patting yourself on the back for doing it.

As to whether or not traffic on this site is actually dying off, I can't honestly say. If this place was going to go completely under I think it's safe to say it would have done so by now; however, it is worth noting that we have suffered some real attrition due to people losing interest and moving on. It happens. We only exist in the first place because of an April Fool's Day prank; beyond that we're just a small site dedicated to political discussion, which can be had anywhere, and the pony fandom, which has itself suffered attrition due to the show going off the air and people moving on. The way I see it, we shouldn't be lamenting the fact that some people have moved on from the fandom or from this place, we should be celebrating the fact that people have stuck around as long as they have.

At the end of the day, you can't force people to be interested in a topic they're not interested in, so there is always a possibility that the site will end up dying off, or be reduced to a small number of core users. If the fate of this place is to become a slow-moving pony altchan like NHNB, then I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. It might not move as fast as some people might like, and we might suffer some additional loss of posters who want more consistent engagment, but I think that ultimately the people who want to stay would be worth keeping around. However, turning the entire site into a garbage dump for low-effort faceberg memes and news aggregation is pretty much guaranteed to kill the site, or turn it into something that would be better off dead.

In other words, if it comes down to a choice between letting /mlpol/ die with dignity, or trying to sustain it by turning it into a 24/7 recycled meme dump like /pol/ or god forbid /b/, I would choose the former. That's my two cents.
Anonymous
No.8519
8520 8524 8527
>>8518
>The problem with favoring a fast-moving, low-quality style of posting just to boost post count and engagement is that eventually serious discussion gets buried in memes and shitposts. This is basically what happened to 4/pol/, and I suspect the problem would persist to some degree even if all of the bots and shills were banned.
>Your rationale seems to be that low-effort spam is better than no posts at all
That's right.
>What you're essentially doing is filling the board with shit,
Not according to me.
>As to whether or not traffic on this site is actually dying off, I can't honestly say.
I do. Moar posting is needed.
>In other words, if it comes down to a choice between letting /mlpol/ die with dignity, or trying to sustain it by turning it into a 24/7 recycled meme dump like /pol/ or god forbid /b/, I would choose the former. That's my two cents.
I thought that already was sorted out. Dumping is mostly in /sp/ then WTF is the complaint about?
Anonymous
No.8520
8522 8528
>>8519
>Not according to me.
RIght. But it is according to pretty much everyone but you. That's what you don't seem to be able to wrap your head around.

>I thought that already was sorted out. Dumping is mostly in /sp/ then WTF is the complaint about?
Because for people who use the overboard, nothing has changed. The low-effort, low-quality threads are still the first thing they see when they refresh the board. Since you're basically just posting content for yourself only, wouldn't it make more sense to just keep the memes on your hard drive and just scroll through them whenever you need a dopamine rush?
Anonymous
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>>8521
>>8520
>The low-effort, low-quality threads are still the first thing they see when they refresh the board. Since you're basically just posting content for yourself only, wouldn't it make more sense to just keep the memes on your hard drive and just scroll through them whenever you need a dopamine rush?
It's telling. The memes are hurting you.
Disgusting.
Anonymous
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>>8522
No, it's really more like your memes are hurting memes as a concept.
Anonymous
No.8524
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>>8522
Helping kill off all decent posts.
>>8519
>I thought that already was sorted out. Dumping is mostly in /sp/ then WTF is the complaint about?
... you didn't understand what he said.
Anonymous
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>>8524
All right, I'm moving aside again, but this time in utter disgust.
Anonymous
No.8526
>>8525
I have no idea what your saying.
Anonymous
No.8527
>>8517
>And yet they themselves post nothing.
I make at an average of one new thread par week. That's more than nothing.
And I know for a fact that multiple other users engage my threads, do they too are posting more than nothing.
>>8518
>Quality posts take time to compose, and quality discussion is usually slow because it requires people to take time and think through a problem.
This.
>Conversely, if users are just responding to each other with recycled memes or one-line no-u-style arguments, the board moves quickly but produces little worth reading. The speed might be attractive to a certain kind of poster, but that kind of person is mostly just looking to shitpost or get into pointless shouting matches; in other words, it's the kind of poster that this board was created to avoid.
>serious discussion gets buried in memes and shitposts
Not only that, it actually drives away quality posters who were brought here by the promise of quality content.
If posters only wanted high-speed, low-quality stuff, they'd just use 4chan. 4chan is still usable. We're not competing with 4chan in terms of speed, but quality.
>This is basically what happened to 4/pol/, and I suspect the problem would persist to some degree even if all of the bots and shills were banned.
Arguably worse, as since 4/pol/ still exists despite the sewage, /mlpol/ going down the same path threatens to make the content creators give up and leave for their own discord groups or whatever.
>turning the entire site into a garbage dump for low-effort faceberg memes and news aggregation is pretty much guaranteed to kill the site, or turn it into something that would be better off dead.
Basically my point.
>>8519
>I do. Moar posting is needed.
Then learn to make quality posts, ffs.
Make well-written, single-topic happening threads. Write green text about mares. Open discussions in meaningful ways that aren't just pissing contests.
>Dumping is mostly in /sp/ then WTF is the complaint about?
It's not only in /sp/. The memes dumping is actually not much of a priority issue in and of itself. Scroll up and read the posts carefully when they refer to posting style and discussion quality.
Anonymous
No.8528
>>8520
>people who use the overboard
I won't lie, but I'm actually questioning if the overboard is actually healthy for us as a site. There's a reason why most altchans don't have one, and the ones that do tend to be the almost-dead ones. It blends different boards together and encourages people to just keep refreshing the over board instead of checking the catalog.
That's a topic for another thread though.
Anonymous
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There is an extremely simple answer that only of you has paid more than a few joules worth of attention to:
post
more
horse
pussy
.

Solved in under a minute.
Anonymous
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>>8529
We used to put horse porn in every post of every political thread thread. Lapse in that has enabled normies to infiltrate. It's time for a horsepussy revival.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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I would like to propose a toast to the lack of cancerous Facebook sewage and boomer-tier posts these past two weeks. The board is healing.
Stay strong, Anons.
Anonymous
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>>9005
A toast!
Anonymous
No.9030
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So, the Facebook problem has (mostly) gone away on its own, but how do we prevent these kinds of retards from infecting the board in the future? It's become abundantly clear that the presence of mares alone isn't enough to deter some shitposters.
Anonymous
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>>9030
>So, the Facebook problem has (mostly) gone away on its own
Bravo!!! Now enjoy your dead board.
Anonymous
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>dead
Boomer once again proving his obsession by replying and calling a board free of his shitposts "dead", while still evidently lurking aforementioned "dead" board.
Tops it off with a Facebook tier image macro and shitty caption. Pathetic.
Anonymous
No.9033
>>9031
fuck off old man, you consistently lower the quality of the board, you by far are the worst poster i have seen since zald himself, do us all a favor and return to r/4chan
Anonymous
No.9034
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>9031
Dude, check it out. This is the current catalog for a board called www.4chan.org/pol/. You may have heard of it. You may have even been there once or twice. Right now, it is literally nothing but high-engagement, low-quality threads packed with unfunny boomer memes, twitter screencaps, and retards shouting at the wind. Threads move so quickly you won't even be able to read everything in them before they 404, which will be great for you since you can't read. You can, right now, right this very instant, go there, and within mere seconds you will be arguing with bots and sharing low-quality humorless memes with other refugees from r/the_donald whose attention spans and IQ are as low as yours, possibly even lower. It is the paradise of low-effort high-volume shitposting you have been dreaming of, and you won't even need to save pony reaction images in order to blend in. Why not leave this place forever and just go there? Frolic in a river of shit for all eternity, no horsefucker will ever judge you again.
Anonymous
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>>9032
>Boomer once again proving his obsession by replying and calling a board free of his shitposts "dead"
No comments.
Anonymous
No.9036
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>>9034
>This is the current catalog for a board called www.4chan.org/pol/
>Right now, it is literally nothing but high-engagement, low-quality threads packed with unfunny boomer memes, twitter screencaps, and retards shouting at the wind.
No doubt this damned site went to shit. No Fun Allowed is textbook clownword mindset, worst yet as is enforced by the management, fucking unreal.
You've got what you wished, to say it politely.
Anonymous
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>9035
>Oh no, it's not full of Facebook spam and stupid arguments that go nowhere.
How hard is it for you to get it through your thick skull that WE LIKE IT THIS WAY!? We liked it this way before you came with your Facebook spam, and we like it now.
What are you even doing posting on this "dead" board anyway? You said you wouldn't participate in this "controlled opposition" board anymore, and yet you're still here. Are you that obsessed?
Anonymous
No.9038
>9036
>went to shit
>implying
You've said what you have to say, and you've received your answer. Now fuck off back where you came from.
Anonymous
No.9039
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>>9037
>You said you wouldn't participate in this "controlled opposition" board anymore, and yet you're still here. Are you that obsessed?
This is not participation but putting the ziggers in their place once in a while. I'm not posting in your mainstream news threads at all as I stand by decision, your cuckoldry won't be rewarded as long as my Flat Earth bread is anchored.
Lotus
## Admin
No.9040
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>>9039
All we ask is that you make a sincere effort to reply to arguments in posts in the Flat Earth thread, and a new thread may be made. No "shit posting" in a thread that makes every appearance of being serious. If you want a Flat Earth fun posting thread, make it clear that it is in fact a fun posting thread
Anonymous
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>9039
>This is not participation
All posting is participation.
>putting the ziggers in their place
Lol, lmao even.
>once in a while
You are lurking constantly, waiting for someone to mention you. Obsessed.
>I'm not posting in your mainstream news threads at all
Good. You are not welcome there.
>as long as my Flat Earth bread is anchored
Then I'm glad it's staying that way.
Anonymous
No.9042
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>>9040
>All we ask is that you make a sincere effort to reply to arguments in posts in the Flat Earth thread, and a new thread may be made.
Fuck no. Don't give him what he wants. We've been trying to reason with him for three fucking years, and his behavior has only gotten worse and worse.
Anonymous
No.9043
Oh look, the flatty is still a problem.
In other news, jews tend to have an over-representation of large noses
Anonymous
No.9044
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>>9040
Seriously, I have a hard suspicion on the staff, or at least one of them, being jewish and a communist. Beginning with simping for women and ending with defending A.I., edible insects, freemasonry, and transhumanism. Or at least the lack of reaction of the staff to proponents of those abominations. So, I won't engage any longer shills, that's a fact.
If the seriousness of a tread is the issue, I will create the proper one in /sp/ and the subject will be solved.
Anonymous
No.9045
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>>9040
I hope that >9044 this post is enough evidence to show that you shouldn't indulge this nigger at all, Lotus.
Anonymous
No.9046
>>9045
Show your post count, to the survival of this board it is all it counts.
Lotus
## Admin
No.9047
9048 9049 9052
>>9045
>>9042
He doesn't want to comply with any standards or rules; don't worry.

>>9044
Staff doesn't take any position on any specific policy or moral or social issue while posting as staff. We just try to create a venue for productive discussion.

I'm not aware of any current or former member of staff who simps for women, defends AI, edible insects, or transhumanism.
Anonymous
No.9048
9050
>>9047
>staff who simps for women
Former mod said that the women don't deserve rights thread was a bait one and was doubting if deleting it or not.
There were breads, I don't remember which boards, with the mentioned subjects, myself and occasionally another poner opposed the shills, but the staff and the usual complainers were silent. So, the staff is hyper active to oppose me, but not the unholy globalist garbage, go figures why.
Anonymous
No.9049
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>>9047
>He doesn't want to comply with any standards or rules
That's the reason /sp/ exists, but I was suppressed also there.
F
Lotus
## Admin
No.9050
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>>9048
>>9049
We are trying to keep this a productive forum for discussion. And to that end, we have rules

No non-responsive posts. Try to engage with other posters
1. No simple dumping of memes
2. No acting like memes are a response to an argument
3. A reaction image does not suffice as a reply
4. No dismissing all replies as "shills" or what have you

This is an anonymous image board
1. No more "I" and first person pronouns
2. No more talking about being the savior of the board or whathaveyou
3. No more personalizing those who disagree by characterizing them as dedicated enemies

No derailing of threads. Keep responses in threads on topic.

This is more or less what we've been asking. Can you do these?
Anonymous
No.9051
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>>9050
>Can you do these?
F
Anonymous
No.9052
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>>9047
>He doesn't want to comply with any standards or rules; don't worry
He doesn't deserve any more chances, so don't offer him any.
>9046
42 on-topic threads on the main board catalog. 52 threads on /sp/. 14 threads on /cyb/. 8 on /a/. 25 on /qa/ Don't feel like sifting through the miles of roleplay threads to count on /vx/.
And none of them are relentlessly-bumped cesspools of Facebook sewage.
Anonymous
No.9053
>9051
>>9050
He clearly means he won't comply. Can we get rid of him now?
Anonymous
No.9054
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>>9052
Relax. The requirements are overwhelming. I want to shitpost unmolested, not to apply for Medical School.
Bye.
You don't own this site
Anonymous
No.9055
>I want to shitpost unmolested
>>>/4chan/
Anonymous
No.9057
>>9050
Let me guess, banned again?
Lotus
## Admin
No.9058
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And stay the fuck off this site
Anonymous
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>>9052

>>9058
Hip-hip horsey! Hip-hip Hooray!
Anonymous
No.9061
>>9054
Good riddance
Anonymous
No.9062
>9054
Finally.
It only took three years.
Anonymous
No.9063
>>9030
Update: the Facebook boomer question has now been completely solved, after three years.
Halfwits like him are a dime a dozen though. Let's not wait so long if another nigger like him tries to take root.