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How do we answer the Facebook question?
Anonymous
No.8462
8463
On April 1st of 2017, this glorious shitpost of a board was born. /mlpol/ became a renaissance for the oldfag cultures of both /mlp/ and /pol/ while creating its own explosion of new content, the two communities of tenacious autists finding a chaotic symbiosis: /mlp/ content drove away the """based""" redditors that had infested /pol/ since 2016 calling anyone they didn't agree with a "shill" and were impossible to hold a conversation with; and /pol/ content drove away the derpibooru/Twitter tourists that constantly shit-up the place with their blatant disregard for 4chan culture and basic chansite etiquette, while pretending native users weren't really true members of the fandom.
In our solidarity, the Anons of /mlpol/ have found salvation from the hordes of redditors, shills, bots and booru tourists. We've persisted for 6 years since then, satisfied with having a small community with quality discourse and memes, and for a while, it's been great.

BUT

In the past couple years, we've seen infiltration by something much, much worse than redditors or booru tourists: Facebook posters. It started slow, just around the time the pandemic era mixup hit, begining as a small trickle before devolving into a cataclysmic torrent of unrelenting boomer-tier spam. A look at any of the threads on the board reveals their pestilent posting style, always the same meme-spam and antagonistic shit flinging when their abhorrent posts are scrutinized in any critical way. It suffocates quality discussion and drives away users. Perhaps some of us noticed early on, but didn't say anything because we wanted more users and hope they would assimilate over time (that's why we deleted rules #1 and #2), but they didn't!
The problem has gotten too noxious to ignore any longer, so that raises a series of questions:
How did they get here?
Is /mlpol/'s resistance to offboard shitposters not as we thought it was?
How much of our board's culture has been damaged by this?
How can we fix what is broken?

And most importantly

HOW DO WE ANSWER THE FACEBOOK QUESTION?
Anonymous
No.8463
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>>8462
>How much of our board's culture has been damaged by this?
The culture is missing because faggots, including (you), are not shitposting.
Wanna the culture you long back? Start posting again, so simple and obvious like that.
Anonymous
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>>8463
You're missing the point, or perhaps intentionally omitting it.
Anonymous
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>>8464
You wanna a scapegoat for you and frens vacating the board.
Post moar.
Anonymous
No.8466
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>>8465
No, I want to solve the problem of worse-than-reddit Facebook-tier garbage flooding the board I use every day.
Anonymous
No.8467
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>>8466
>I use every day
Doubtful beyond some random patched activity.
Anonymous
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>>8463
Fuck off. You brick fucking wall.
Like a blackhole you make it all revolve around and nothing great escapes!
The dense motherducker energy making any kind of talking pointless!
If it weren't so we'd have discussions! Between the people who are here.
Obviously you never want to change your behavior in spite of mountains of evidence.
>>8465
You know the moment when cold fury runs down your spine?
I think I'm going to take a break.
>>8466
What he said.
>>8467
...
Anonymous
No.8469
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>>8467
I don't need to prove it to you. I've used this board every day, since April of 2017. I just don't spam it like a retard.
Anonymous
No.8470
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>>8468
>>8469
You both are full of shit. Shitpost moar or shut your trap.
Anonymous
No.8471
>>8470
Why are you so defensive about Facebook posters?
Could it be that you are one?
Anonymous
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>>8467
>random patched activity
I've made seven threads in the past month, and while I don't care to brag about it, I know it's more than how many you've made. Of the threads I made, at least half of them had their discussion quality visibly diminished when the Facebook-phenotype(s) started posting in them with their barely-related spam and tangential shit flinging. I do my work to keep this site like it used to be, to keep bringing up new conversations with the community I've come to love, but the sheer quantity and lack of quality is quite frankly demoralizing, and I can't blame the other Anons for not wanting to post here as often as they used to.
Every time I'm ready to make a new thread, I find myself asking "Is this one going to get shit all over too?", and sometimes I don't even bother.

It's all so tiresome.
Anonymous
No.8473
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>>8470
>Shitpost moar
>make line go up!
Exactly this asinine goddamn attitude.
We don't need shitposts. We don't need low quality boomer spam. We don't need thoughtless replies that took less than a minute to type.
There's a difference between quality shitposts and an onslaught of soulless garbage.
Anonymous
No.8474
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>>8473
>Exactly this asinine goddamn attitude.
>We don't need shitposts.
Absolutely yes. A deserted board is always unappealing to all lurkers.
Anonymous
No.8475
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>>8474
What's even more unappealing to lurkers is a board full of Facebook-tier meme dumping and generals with no conversations.
Anonymous
No.8476
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>>8475
>Facebook-tier
Dude, enough of your mythical facebook-tier meme. The memes are fine.
Anonymous
No.8477
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>>8476
You're literally the only one on this board who thinks that.
Anonymous
No.8478
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>>8477
Not true. Some poners before are fine with memes, but vocal and loud ones make more noise.
Anonymous
No.8479
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>>8478

>>8478
Nobody replies to those memes positively. Barely anyone engages with them. Nobody has conversations around them.
But the meme dumping isn't even the problem. The problem is the absolutely abhorrent, easily-identifiable posting style that reeks of the same verbage and ideologues of Facebook and imgur. It's appalling transparent wherever it appears.
But if course, you're more than ready to get defensive about it, because the moment you read "low-quality Facebook garbage", you thought of yourself. You knew immediately that a non-insignificant portion of those were your posts, and instead of even considering changing behavior, you just double down and insist that your sewage is quality content.
You wouldn't even deny being from Facebook, because everyone knows it's fucking true.
Anonymous
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>>8479
>easily-identifiable posting style that reeks of the same verbage and ideologues of Facebook and imgur
Clearly a overt falsehood nearing slander.
Anonymous
No.8481
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>>8480
>slander
Do you use Facebook?
Anonymous
No.8482
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>>8481
Never, but I know what kind of images and memes are allowed there, and the ones posted at this site are clearly not the same. Then I have to call you for what you are: a liar.
Anonymous
No.8483
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>>8482
Then it must be another Anon shitting up the board with low quality Facebook crap then, because I see it everywhere.
Anonymous
No.8484
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>>8483
Most memes are of political and racial tone which never be allowed in normie social media. On the other hoof, the /sp/ board may contain some normie memes, but it is into the RULES, so you have no right to complain.
Anonymous
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>>8484
>you have no right to complain
Lmao, get fucked.
>never be allowed in normie social media
Oh really, where do you get them?
Anonymous
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>>8484
>you have no right to complain

>political and racial tone
>can't technically post them on Facebook, but I guess I'll post it here
>>8480
Mnmmm.
>you shut down everything that even pokes you
>end discussions by ever mean
>cannot understand who is speaking in any conversation
>illiterate on site anything
>goes fuck around
>refuses supporting any points made
>continually dumps garbage
>asinine attitude
>regularly responds to self as if different anons
>arbitrarily decides what's best for everyone else complains that nobody is doing the solution you're deciding
>bare minimum effort per post
>refuses to be bothered to read or understand any post
>replies with out of touch image
>implying that you're in the majority despite evidence to the contrary
>make threads that have stuff nobody replies to and claim it's everyone elses problem they don't like it
>passing off any accountability as everyone else is normies
>refuses to consider hypotheticals
>rejects anything that hurts the feelings
>technically illiterate
>no consideration for anybody else
20 ah, ah ah
>Clearly a overt falsehood
Just like from over a hundred different countries.
Kind of sussy baka.
But it's probably just your brain damage from having your flesh pounded.
Anonymous
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I'm still waiting for you faggots to shitpost something.
Anonymous
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>>8487
I already made a new thread since last night, you absolute mongoloid.
Anonymous
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>>8487
I'm still waiting for you faggot to shitpost something good consistently.
Anonymous
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>>8488
I was not referring to you. You pass.
Anonymous
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>>8489
>fencesitter
You're fresh.
Anonymous
No.8493
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>>8491
>You pass
I made this thread too.
So fuck off with the "you don't post enough; you need to spam harder" crap. That's besides the point.
Anonymous
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>>8493
>you need to spam harder" crap
Everypony needs to do it indeed.
Shitposting harder.
Anonymous
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>>8494
This entire board was created to escape low quality shitposting.
Anonymous
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>>8495
Then post good quality, according to your specs.
Anonymous
No.8497
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>>8496
I do.
Anonymous
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>>8497
Good. Glad we are in synchrony.
Anonymous
No.8499
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>>8498
You either didn't read the OP or are intentionally ignoring it.
But if you have nothing left to say about it, that's fine.
Anonymous
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>>8499
You don't get it. As long as you and frens post moar I'll be satisfied. Your moaning is just noise coming from the inertia of your heavy asses.
Anonymous
No.8501
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>>8500
Your satisfaction is not the priority here, nor is it the subject of the thread.
Anonymous
No.8502
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>>8501
Correct. Posting moar it is.
Anonymous
No.8503
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>>8492
If English isn't your first or second language, that's fine. Your behavior is shitty though.
>>8500
You're the only one happy with the shit you're shoveling. As you are it's a worthless time sink, and I Hate that! >>8502
Not on your timescale jackass.
Anonymous
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>>8503
<1% of all words and meanings in the common language were created or derived from britcuckish. The majority are from: proto-German AKA Saxon, Late Greek, Late Roman, Late Gaul, and Middle Italian-Spanola, though not in that order.
Anonymous
No.8505
I probably should have made this thread with visible poster IDs.
Anonymous
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This is OP.
Anonymous
No.8507
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>>8506
You have offered zero solutions to the problem in the OP.
Anonymous
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>>8507
>zero solutions
LOL
Anonymous
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>low quality Facebook spam is explicitly the problem in the OP
>low quality poster vocally insists on shitposting more
>as if that wouldn't just exacerbate the problem
>bumps the thread just to repeat himself about it
Anonymous
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>>8506
>>8507
I understand the word discussion is a bit foreign.
Instead of beating an answer into a skull, it means talking about potential answers and the pros and cons.
An unlikely solution
>Anon who shuts down when questioned or probed, responds with wise answers and or at minimum explains throughly.
Pros:
More discussion
More quality posts
Everybody wins
Cons:
Unlikely
Anonymous
No.8511
>>8509
Pottery
Anonymous
No.8512
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>>8510
There is an issue in you apparently reasonable explanation. Complainers are not posting, therefore they already vacated the place and the vacuum they left is being filled. They are continuously interfering with an active poster while adding butthurt to the board. In a nutshell, those anons only have the purpose of braking and shutting posting down.
Anonymous
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>>8512
>Complainers are not posting
>Implying
I've made more than half a dozen topical and relevant threads in the past few weeks, which is a normal rate of content creation.
Spammers just bump their shitty generals with boomer-tier Faceberg spam, or worse, derail quality threads with their abysmal posting style.
>therefore they already vacated the place
I've been here the whole time.
Anonymous
No.8514
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>>8513
So, you may be active, but the rest is in vacation showing up only to shit on my threads.
By the way, look like your frens are not posting in your's either, because I'm a mayor participant but your frens are not.
Anonymous
No.8515
>>8514
>your frens
This thread isn't about them.
Anonymous
No.8516
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>>8512
>Whenever I spew low quality stuff nobody wants to touch it
>everybody should be posting one message every second
>people who don't like my low quality spew are bad when they say they don't like it
>I am the only one who posts every second
>They somehow shut down posts by making more posts
You totally ignored my point, and you only think your way is the right way.
>>8514
>major participant
Spewing diarrhea everywhere is not something to be proud of.
>Not everybody is posting every second
I would rather one single almost great post once a year than your spam.
I and many others desire quality.
Your spew, refuses to produce quality.
Anonymous
No.8517
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>>8516
>I and many others desire quality.
And yet they themselves post nothing. Irony of ironies.
>Your spew, refuses to produce quality.
I do my best, sorry if your quality checks are triggered.
Anonymous
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>>8512
The issue, which you seem unable to ever completely grasp, is that this really comes down to quality vs. quantity. Quality posts take time to compose, and quality discussion is usually slow because it requires people to take time and think through a problem. Board speed will decrease exponentially if you have a smaller number of posters participating.

Conversely, if users are just responding to each other with recycled memes or one-line no-u-style arguments, the board moves quickly but produces little worth reading. The speed might be attractive to a certain kind of poster, but that kind of person is mostly just looking to shitpost or get into pointless shouting matches; in other words, it's the kind of poster that this board was created to avoid. The problem with favoring a fast-moving, low-quality style of posting just to boost post count and engagement is that eventually serious discussion gets buried in memes and shitposts. This is basically what happened to 4/pol/, and I suspect the problem would persist to some degree even if all of the bots and shills were banned.

>Complainers are not posting, therefore they already vacated the place and the vacuum they left is being filled. They are continuously interfering with an active poster while adding butthurt to the board. In a nutshell, those anons only have the purpose of braking and shutting posting down.
The problem with this kind of thinking is that you're still focusing on quantity of posts rather than quality. Your rationale seems to be that low-effort spam is better than no posts at all, which I would argue is doing far more harm than good.

What you're essentially doing is filling the board with shit, to the extent that the only thing worth discussing is the amount of shit everywhere. So, naturally, discussion turns away from normal topics, and devolves into an endless meta-argument about what amount of feces is acceptable to have smeared all over the place. You take this as evidence that without your shitposts the board would be completely dead, and so continue to smear shit all over everything while patting yourself on the back for doing it.

As to whether or not traffic on this site is actually dying off, I can't honestly say. If this place was going to go completely under I think it's safe to say it would have done so by now; however, it is worth noting that we have suffered some real attrition due to people losing interest and moving on. It happens. We only exist in the first place because of an April Fool's Day prank; beyond that we're just a small site dedicated to political discussion, which can be had anywhere, and the pony fandom, which has itself suffered attrition due to the show going off the air and people moving on. The way I see it, we shouldn't be lamenting the fact that some people have moved on from the fandom or from this place, we should be celebrating the fact that people have stuck around as long as they have.

At the end of the day, you can't force people to be interested in a topic they're not interested in, so there is always a possibility that the site will end up dying off, or be reduced to a small number of core users. If the fate of this place is to become a slow-moving pony altchan like NHNB, then I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. It might not move as fast as some people might like, and we might suffer some additional loss of posters who want more consistent engagment, but I think that ultimately the people who want to stay would be worth keeping around. However, turning the entire site into a garbage dump for low-effort faceberg memes and news aggregation is pretty much guaranteed to kill the site, or turn it into something that would be better off dead.

In other words, if it comes down to a choice between letting /mlpol/ die with dignity, or trying to sustain it by turning it into a 24/7 recycled meme dump like /pol/ or god forbid /b/, I would choose the former. That's my two cents.
Anonymous
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>>8518
>The problem with favoring a fast-moving, low-quality style of posting just to boost post count and engagement is that eventually serious discussion gets buried in memes and shitposts. This is basically what happened to 4/pol/, and I suspect the problem would persist to some degree even if all of the bots and shills were banned.
>Your rationale seems to be that low-effort spam is better than no posts at all
That's right.
>What you're essentially doing is filling the board with shit,
Not according to me.
>As to whether or not traffic on this site is actually dying off, I can't honestly say.
I do. Moar posting is needed.
>In other words, if it comes down to a choice between letting /mlpol/ die with dignity, or trying to sustain it by turning it into a 24/7 recycled meme dump like /pol/ or god forbid /b/, I would choose the former. That's my two cents.
I thought that already was sorted out. Dumping is mostly in /sp/ then WTF is the complaint about?
Anonymous
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>>8519
>Not according to me.
RIght. But it is according to pretty much everyone but you. That's what you don't seem to be able to wrap your head around.

>I thought that already was sorted out. Dumping is mostly in /sp/ then WTF is the complaint about?
Because for people who use the overboard, nothing has changed. The low-effort, low-quality threads are still the first thing they see when they refresh the board. Since you're basically just posting content for yourself only, wouldn't it make more sense to just keep the memes on your hard drive and just scroll through them whenever you need a dopamine rush?
Anonymous
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>>8521
>>8520
>The low-effort, low-quality threads are still the first thing they see when they refresh the board. Since you're basically just posting content for yourself only, wouldn't it make more sense to just keep the memes on your hard drive and just scroll through them whenever you need a dopamine rush?
It's telling. The memes are hurting you.
Disgusting.
Anonymous
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>>8522
No, it's really more like your memes are hurting memes as a concept.
Anonymous
No.8524
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>>8522
Helping kill off all decent posts.
>>8519
>I thought that already was sorted out. Dumping is mostly in /sp/ then WTF is the complaint about?
... you didn't understand what he said.
Anonymous
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>>8524
All right, I'm moving aside again, but this time in utter disgust.
Anonymous
No.8526
>>8525
I have no idea what your saying.
Anonymous
No.8527
>>8517
>And yet they themselves post nothing.
I make at an average of one new thread par week. That's more than nothing.
And I know for a fact that multiple other users engage my threads, do they too are posting more than nothing.
>>8518
>Quality posts take time to compose, and quality discussion is usually slow because it requires people to take time and think through a problem.
This.
>Conversely, if users are just responding to each other with recycled memes or one-line no-u-style arguments, the board moves quickly but produces little worth reading. The speed might be attractive to a certain kind of poster, but that kind of person is mostly just looking to shitpost or get into pointless shouting matches; in other words, it's the kind of poster that this board was created to avoid.
>serious discussion gets buried in memes and shitposts
Not only that, it actually drives away quality posters who were brought here by the promise of quality content.
If posters only wanted high-speed, low-quality stuff, they'd just use 4chan. 4chan is still usable. We're not competing with 4chan in terms of speed, but quality.
>This is basically what happened to 4/pol/, and I suspect the problem would persist to some degree even if all of the bots and shills were banned.
Arguably worse, as since 4/pol/ still exists despite the sewage, /mlpol/ going down the same path threatens to make the content creators give up and leave for their own discord groups or whatever.
>turning the entire site into a garbage dump for low-effort faceberg memes and news aggregation is pretty much guaranteed to kill the site, or turn it into something that would be better off dead.
Basically my point.
>>8519
>I do. Moar posting is needed.
Then learn to make quality posts, ffs.
Make well-written, single-topic happening threads. Write green text about mares. Open discussions in meaningful ways that aren't just pissing contests.
>Dumping is mostly in /sp/ then WTF is the complaint about?
It's not only in /sp/. The memes dumping is actually not much of a priority issue in and of itself. Scroll up and read the posts carefully when they refer to posting style and discussion quality.
Anonymous
No.8528
>>8520
>people who use the overboard
I won't lie, but I'm actually questioning if the overboard is actually healthy for us as a site. There's a reason why most altchans don't have one, and the ones that do tend to be the almost-dead ones. It blends different boards together and encourages people to just keep refreshing the over board instead of checking the catalog.
That's a topic for another thread though.
Anonymous
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There is an extremely simple answer that only of you has paid more than a few joules worth of attention to:
post
more
horse
pussy
.

Solved in under a minute.
Anonymous
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>>8529
We used to put horse porn in every post of every political thread thread. Lapse in that has enabled normies to infiltrate. It's time for a horsepussy revival.
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Anonymous
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I would like to propose a toast to the lack of cancerous Facebook sewage and boomer-tier posts these past two weeks. The board is healing.
Stay strong, Anons.
Anonymous
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>>9005
A toast!