/qa/ - Questions and Answers

>>6719
Is it to atomize the board? The traffic is not high enough for that to be practical.

>>6720
If I understand correctly, the purpose of it would be to increase traffic to all boards, as horsefuckers would have a place to create more content peacefully, while also using the red board for red things.
>The traffic is not high enough for that to be practical
Our traffick wouldn't decrease because of it though. i hear this argument on a lot of topics, but the "we're too small" idea really underestimates the potential of this community. I also don't think /mlpol/ should deny ourselves opportunities to improve just because we're 'too small'. Smaller pony boards exist that get along just fine.

>>6721
>as horsefuckers would have a place to create more content peacefully
>peacefully
Care to explain yourself.

>>6721
>as horsefuckers would have a place to create more content peacefully
>newfag
/mlpol/ is already a board of peace and friendship

Guess I'll throw my two cents in.

I don't necessarily object to the idea, and it would certainly be easy enough to add an additional board. I'm skeptical that it would really bring in more users to the site proper; seems like what we would mainly be doing is providing a bunker board for /mlp/, so basically just becoming the new /pone/. This isn't objectionable in itself, but it seems like if everyone new who comes in has no interest in the political side and stays on the SFW board, all it's going to do is resegregate /pol/ and /mlp/ into separate boards again, which kind of defeats the purpose of /mlpol/. I guess my personal view is that the whole thing seems a bit unnecessary, and that if people want more pony threads there's nothing stopping them from posting more pony threads.

That said, I guess there's a lot about the horsefucker side of things that I may not necessarily understand, since I wasn't really involved in /mlp/ prior to coming here. If ponyfags legitimately feel like they're being crowded out by the political threads and would post more if they had a second ponies-only board, it's not something I'm adamantly opposed to and would be willing to give it a try.

tl;dr, I'm not against the idea if that's what people want, but I must also confess that I don't entirely understand why this is an issue.

>>6724
Then what if we made the NSFW aspect of it the gimmick and just made a red board? Or do we already have the /mlpol/ board for that?

>>6722
It wasn't my idea, I just agree with it somewhat, so I can't explain it entirely. Follow the post linked in the OP and you can see a mass-reply to some of the posts in the Roe v Wade thread that discussed the topic. I'd prefer it if that poster argued for the proposition instead.
From what I understand, some users feel like /mlpol/ is as it stands a lot like /pol/ without GR15, instead of a hybrid of both boards. Some users thought /mlp/ users who were friendly with /mlpol/ or formerly used it would be more attracted to the site if they had a SFW pony board, where they could talk about cartoon horse escapism without always being blackpilled with grim headlines about the death of the white race, and also without flags or IDs, like /mlp/.
Then I guess there's also the idea of the idea that SFW boards exist for a reason, and that having porn in the same place as regular posting might not necessarily be the best for discussion.
>>6723
I have religiously visited this board every single day, without fail, since it was created April 2017: I am more than well aware of the state of things and how the site has changed since 2017.
>/mlpol/ is already a board of peace and friendship
It would be a lot easier to say that if we actually had regular pony content... Can you even remember the last greentext you read here? I think we can do a lot better, or at the very least it could be worth trying. Maybe do it temporarily for a few months and see how it works. It's not like we have anything to lose in trying.

>>6719
I could see it being a good idea if /mlp/ was to ever shut down but as of now? I'm not sure.

>>6725
If we're going to do this, my preference would be to keep the second board SFW so the horsefuckers are at least forced to visit the main board for something. Though I will be perfectly honest, it is highly unlikely any "no porn" rules are going to be strictly enforced, so it probably won't matter.

Don't fall for kikes' tricks.
Subversion is their nature.

>>6729
Sensible enough advice, but how does this relate to what we're discussing?

>>6730
To change (re-shape) /mlpol/ has been a tendency for a while, first was the policy, now the boards.
I say fuck that.

>>6730
It begins accommodating some snowflakes and always "progresses". It is to expect that soon Aryanne will be spoilered and Hitler pics will be banned to not offend the jews.

>>6732
I think you're reading a little too much into this.

>>6729
How is this "subversive"?

>>6732
>muh slippery slope
That's absurd. Just because we make a sfw board doesn't mean we'd ban Aryanne. Aryanne is the mascot of the site, ffs.
>>6731
It's not like we haven't fixed things before. Not every change has to be negative.

Content is king, not space. /a/ has space but is empty. The same would be true for this new board.

To tract newfags with pony we would be better of shilling GG's threads on mlp or other activities we do on the site.

This reminds me of the idea that tea time has discussed a few times: That /vx/ should be split up. No offense to that guy who suggests that but that wouldn't help at all.

Again, make threads that engage Anons in different ways and you have content, then make people aware of it.

I'm interested in anime but I never visit /a/ because there's no content. That's how simple it is.

>>6719
Short version: No
>>6721
Begging your pardon, but please validate how having a blue board would incentivize posters.
>>6722
Fucking this
>>6723
And this
>>6724
>all it's going to do is resegregate /pol/ and /mlp/ into separate boards again, which kind of defeats the purpose of /mlpol/
Thank you
>I must also confess that I don't entirely understand why this is an issue
Ever worked in sales? Ever had a customer who absolutely wont buy the product no matter WHAT, but they demand all sorts of incentives just for the thrill of the game? Thats what this is.
I maintain that /mlp/ (and much/most of /pol/ while Im on) made their decision a LONG time ago, before any of these excuses were a concern. To cater now would be like apologizing to leftists; emasculating and utterly without product.

>>6726
Is reading greentext a requirement?
>>6732
This anon gets it
>>6733
Care to make an argument, or are you just gonna half-assed disagree and then waifishly retreat?
>>6735
Agreed, but cater to them now and see what they ask for next.
>>6737
Agreed. Remind me to tell the story of how /a/ came to be

>>6741
>Is reading greentext a requirement?
Well, on a pony board, it's a staple of content. That's just an example though.
>cater to them now
Cater to who? Users with ideas?
>see what they ask for next.
If they ask for something retarded, just say no.

>>6744
>Well, on a pony board, it's a staple of content
From the beginning, I warned about comparing this site to 4chan 'established norms'....
>cater to whom
Ftfy
Well, the 'users with ideas' seem to want to fundamentally change the site structure, what with new boards and unwritten (but better believe theyre coming) expectations. Those are the ones I am urging caution in catering to.
>if they ask for something retarded
So, if they ALREADY asked for something retarded?

>>6719
The core of the argument is seeing too many blackpills thus horsery on its own would thrive. I'd argue that would lead to a well known road of divide and conquer.
I would also say My Little Horsepussy Cum inside RD is an Anime as well...
On attracting people here it's a matter of choice between what is and what the alternatives are, and why that is the choice.
People can technically make their own bunker with minimal effort using key words and search.
There's nothing particularly missing, except being the first to come to mind.
The analogy of settlements there 4/mlp/ now a gentrified city past the golden glory, a Detroit. Here is a place everyone knows almost everybody else if not, the rough places where they come from.
/mlpol/ is the Christmas Hearthswarming miracle in April. Not everyone had that spirit then, but it's felt continuously. The joy in bridging two groups to face against the hoards as similar and dissimilar interests align.
Now 2022 4chin shidding street is swamped with shills and shit.
...

Original Idea shiller here. I want to make a direct case for how this should be implamented and what the expected outcome will be.

From the start of mlpol till now mlpol has passed up many opportunities to get users from 4chan's mlp. this generally happens when generals are shut down, when theres on board strife. the implamentation of the board wont see a huge flood of users until the mods decide to shit in their cornflakes again, which may be a while. Providing a horseboard experiance that 4chucks sucks and fucks wont. weather thats letting someone post horse images in the politics board or letting them post other shit on /mlp/. Like a youtube channel it will have to grow slowly, but keeping users is a real possibility as long as there is a place for content and discussion that the mods of /mlp/ are too pussy to allow. Weather thats meta, 4chan cup, board tan, milky, hi anon threads, etc.

I don't know if we should go the extra mile and encourage the autists who hate eqg to come here by banning eqg, but given 4cuck exists, I wouldn't complain about it if thats what the mods here wanted to do. or give op the right to remove images from their own threads. This is, as I said probably way too fucking much and truthfully I think it would be kind of faggy but theres no doubt theres a vocal portion of mlp that resents eqg, is easily trolled by it, and would come here in a heartbeat if there was a way they could get away from it.

>>6737
>Again, make threads that engage Anons in different ways and you have content, then make people aware of it.
no matter how good your content, whites wont move next to blacks.

>>6724
>but it seems like if everyone new who comes in has no interest in the political side and stays on the SFW board, all it's going to do is resegregate /pol/ and /mlp/ into separate boards again, which kind of defeats the purpose of /mlpol/. I guess my personal view is that the whole thing seems a bit unnecessary, and that if people want more pony threads there's nothing stopping them from posting more pony threads.
The problem is that the boards are already segregated, people who want to see more pony content on page one aren't going to keep hanging out on /mlpol/ and when I come to /mlpol/ as does just about does just about anyone else, we com here for the /pol/ side of things, as reflected by how little the horse threads stay on page 1.

>>6732
why would we spoiler such images on mlpol.net/mlp/?
are you suggesting this site is a democracy?
>>6740
>I maintain that /mlp/ (and much/most of /pol/ while Im on) made their decision a LONG time ago,
this is actually the only criticism so far that isn;t retarded and is 100% true, mlpol lost so much ground that it IS arguable on weather the ship has sailed and nothing you do will recover the reputation this site has for being politics first and horse second.

>>6753
If /pol/ content were REALLY the issue, it is as it was with Derpy.

Just hide. Oh wait, thats really not the issue, its just an excuse.

>>6746
>Well, the 'users with ideas' seem to want to fundamentally change the site structure, what with new boards and unwritten (but better believe theyre coming) expectations. Those are the ones I am urging caution in catering to.
this is exactly what i mean when I say that this site is for politics first. I don't honestly believe the vast majority of /pol/ users even understand how important our green generals are to /mlp/. why would they? the original /mlpol/ was cancer to 90% of them and their users gave up until /mlpol/ was over and /mlp/ came back. it was never going to be permanent anyway. /mlpol/ doesn't have a rule against green text, but the format of the board, the differences between /mlp/ and /pol/'s user sizes make it clear that mixing the demographics is cancer for one side more than the other. people come to /mlp/ praying for green and OC. it's one of the most if not the most creative board on the site. but as it is, with a userbase this out of touch that they would call something so essential a 4chan established norm, it's obvious how big of a divide there really is between horsefuckers and polacks.

>>6756
>if accelerator really is the issue, just hide , oh wait, thats just an excuse.
newfag.

>>6731
Given /d/ exists with all its divergant fetish generals I don't necissarily think it would be a problem to keep red pony content in /mlpol/, as long as the greentext itself was not policed on the blueboard.

As for moderation, with increase user size, administrating the site or otherwise finding and vetting someone who isn't a giga kike will probably be the biggest issue. I don't see a problem necissarily with 4chans divide between mod and disposable jannys who do it for free though. people do like to browse mlp at work and its harder to do that with horsetits everywhere.

>>6726
>It would be a lot easier to say that if we actually had regular pony content... Can you even remember the last greentext you read here? I think we can do a lot better, or at the very least it could be worth trying. Maybe do it temporarily for a few months and see how it works. It's not like we have anything to lose in trying.
>just try it once, fail, quite forever, and feel ashamed of yourself like a normal person
No offense, given you went to bat for my case in my absence, but I don't feel like treating the move as temporary would be a good move at all. either do it for real or don't bother. Putting it up and then taking it down would be worse than never putting it up at all. users aren't going to move here overnight, theyre going to come slowly each time 4chuck mods makes doing what they like difficult. Getting each influx of users is going to be an effort of will on the part of the users of this site, and where applicable, the administration, if theres some kind of technical thing that /mlp/ users would want for whatever reason. It's not something worth doing at all by people who just don't give a fuck honestly.

>>6752
>no matter how good your content, whites wont move next to blacks.
Tch, what is that even suppose to me?
Clearly, polacks and horsf***ers can share the same space and you're wrong, by the way, (sadly) people stick with this society despite it's madness because of bread and circuses.
>>6753
I relate to little in this post. Sure, pony thread and pol thread are often separate entities. The things that connect them are the memes and views of the anons in them that they share.

>people who want to see more pony content on page one aren't going to keep hanging out on /mlpol/
Yet, I do.
But besides that, aren't you saying what I'm saying, if there is no content, then there is no reason to be there.

Look, this could be a problem after we get a lot of trafic. Now, not so much.

I also dislike this like thinking. I have shared in the past OP so don't feel too bad. The thinking that we need to attract more people to the site. Let's not get blinkered and focus on fishing and instead focus on having fun with Anons you already have.

Even that's not completely right. Don't try to have fun or be engaging because of an obligation. Do it because you want to.

If this site becomes only for politics and horsefuckers wish to spend their time elsewhere, then so be it. The site will still have a purpose and serve some people.

Threads about ponies get at least one response but usually several. People care about pony content on this site so engage with that. I do for example. If you and I can bond over ponies do you really need a crowd?

>>6761
>Yet, I do.
and yet no one else does.
when big happenings of a political nature happen here, the board becomes /pol/. when /mlp/ happenings happen here, we get one or two replies. the biggest OC this board has is divegrass, which is something but not enough of something to say its in any way comparable.
>Don't try to have fun or be engaging because of an obligation. Do it because you want to.
I do want to grow this site because I genuinely want to have fun with anons without mods cucking me, faggot. My frustration comes from the clear message from the mods and I guess the community, they do not agree, they would rather sit in politics and seeth.
>just be greatful of what you have!
>threads about ponies get at least one response, actually, several!
>do you really need a crowd?
if you replaced horsefuckers with whites you would be called a jew and told to kill yourself immediately.

>>6719
It is newfags who must adapt to chan-culture and not the other way around. As always has been.
Safe space denied.

Sometimes I feel reluctant to make FIM related threads because something political and important is on the front page.
Why not test out a dedicated FIM only board for a month, and see if it sucks any users and generals away from 4/mlp/?
Uncensored political discussions could arise naturally on this board that would never be allowed on 4chan.

>>6760
>I don't feel like treating the move as temporary would be a good move at all. either do it for real or don't bother.
What's wrong with experimenting though?

>>6756
>its just an excuse.
Excuse for what?

>>6766
Yeah, I think a month trial could be worth it. I just want to try.

>>6763
>when big happenings of a political nature happen here, the board becomes /pol/. when /mlp/ happenings happen here, we get one or two replies
Yeah, that's exactly the issue I see here.
I make a lot of threads on /mlpol/, including most of the political happening threads. The political happening threads get replies, the pony happening threads don't get that many at all. I want more pony stuff...

>>6741
>Care to make an argument, or are you just gonna half-assed disagree and then waifishly retreat?
Does an argument need to be made? What's being proposed here is just adding an extra board for pony-only posting, nobody's talking about banning Hitler or Aryanne. The post I responded to was massively overreacting, and I pointed this out. If anyone should be called out for not making any arguments it's that poster, but I don't even think the topic is worth pursuing that far.

Honestly if there's any argument to be made for why the /pol/ side of things might be driving people away, it's not that there's any problem with the content being posted, it's just that so many /pol/ anons are paranoid to the point of it being actually comical, and it's physically exhausting to try to have a conversation with them sometimes. Someone proposes tweaking the site format a bit, and some schizo immediately jumps to the conclusion it's some kind of conspiracy to de-Nazify the site, and starts bringing up kikes and subversion out of nowhere. I point out that this is an overreaction with no basis beyond paranoia, and some third schizo, (You), jumps in and demands an unreasonably high threshold of proof for a post that was completely self-explanatory.

If anyone is being driven away from the site, it's probably just due to their being slowly worn down by shit like this. You try to have a sensible, civil discussion about literally any topic only to end up in a pointless argument against some schizo who treats every conversation like a zero-sum bare-knuckle brawl. It's not so much that people are being driven away, as that many of them are probably realizing that they're spending way too much time trying to argue with people who are too silly to be arguing with in the first place. At that point they just stop posting because it's not worth the effort. Is that enough of an argument for you, or do I need to provide a page and a half of citations?

>>6784
Thank you anon, that was perfect

>>6772
Nothing in theory. in practice this is not the kind of thing you do low effort to see if it works. you need to have patience and tenacity.
>>6784
based

>>6801
Don't entice him. Like a spoiled foal, he will come back emboldened and demand more.

>>6763
<without mods cucking me, faggot.
>Makes thread about how users are aggressive to change.
>Is aggressive against users who don't want change but aren't aggressive.
Have I insulted you at all? No, I haven't. Not that it bothers me, being on a chan and all but I just wanted to point this out.

>if you replaced horsefuckers with whites you would be called a jew and told to kill yourself immediately.
You appeal to the site and the anons on it at the same time as you push for changing a community fundamentally. Mlpol is the conflux of these two sides, to have whitepill with the blackpill or however you wanna describe it. Point is, if we're going to start screaming, "You're the real kike," here wouldn't you who wants to change a tradition while defaming the people in it that doesn't want to, be the real kike, mah nigguha.

Reminder: You could have prevented this.
Just because we didn't want to download a hugeass file and told you why about leakage in Hasbro doesn't mean other pony threads doesn't get traffic. In fact, your thread got traffic it just wasn't well received. Seethe n' cope ;^P

Big pony happenings do get attention, like G5, PonyLife, etc. And check the catalog man. Even Political threads have poni pictures on them.
I don't know if you were talking about the mods here or on 4chan but they certainly don't cuck you here. If anything, they are hard to get started.

Again though, I wasn't bothered that much about your insults as I am about how you keep moving the conversation. My two points are:
1)Content is king so your split will not only change mlpol fundamentally but also it would just be another /a/.
2) There are a lot of people here who enjoy pony posting, myself included. Make good threads and there will be people who are interested.

I myself have been sometimes frustrated on the low engage I have had from users here at times. This really doesn't happen that often mind you, cuz people actually do care (I want to stress that I can partially see your point of view but thinks it is skewed). But anyway, sometimes that's their "fault" (Again, no obligation is for the best, I think) other times that's my "fault" for writing something subpar or creating a subpar thread.

I have posted greentexts where I got zero (you)s, where were you at those times? Exactly, sometimes things doesn't take off, marebe your fault marebe not, people have lives afterall.

What I'm trying to say in this last meandering parts is that I can sympathize with your plight but I disagree with your solution and I also think you're not appreciating what you have enough.

>>6802
are you pretending to be retarded at this point? you do know IDs are on in this thread right? who am I?
>>6803
>Have I insulted you at all? No, I haven't. Not that it bothers me, being on a chan and all but I just wanted to point this out.
faggot isn't an insult on 4chan.
>You appeal to the site and the anons on it at the same time as you push for changing a community fundamentally.
Because I use and care about said sites. apparently longer than you. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the rest of your post reads like you're a retarded zigger because you are phone posting.
> Mlpol is the conflux of these two sides, to have whitepill with the blackpill or however you wanna describe it.
and in the best of days that's never going to hold a dedicated horsefuckers attention for long.
>If we're going to start screaming you're the real kike
then stop using kike arguments.
>you're trying to change tradition
again with this narrative. I am not changing anything, tradition has already changed. 90% of the horsefuckers interested in /mlpol/? they hang around in aryanne threads in /mlp/, not here. I said it before and I said it again, /mlpol/ is not /mlp/+/pol/. it's /pol/ without gr15.

Finally, I want to take a tangent here, because the last line really genuinely pisses me off as a conservative. Conservatism isn't never changing traditions you retard. That's what causes shit like the marxist republican party to exist. Slovenly sloths dressed up as human beings who hate their lives being inconvenienced in any way or stepping outside their comfort zone. If you are a conservative and you never change your traditions, you're equivalent to a technological luddite who reprints the Iliad in stone tablet only. Whats wrong with paper books? Ones and zeros? Why should my shitty father hate computers but love guns? The only reason is because he's too prideful and too dismissive to see how it can be used as a weapon or other tool. If you run out of cool books to carve with your stonemasonry skills but you just cant give up the rock then learn to carve something other than books. Traditions are worthless unless you can use them in your day to day life. And if the magic of friendship starts to wear dull and all of your friends are leaving because you wont shut up about politics 24/7, maybe find a different way.

Or don't. Why do you think I'm so invested in changing your opinion? I'm only giving you the 4chan way; A complete lack of respect for your faggot behavior, and lotus/et all. Just as I'm sure they've done similarly to users or retards that annoy them with their brand of stupidity. As much as that happens this is yours.

>>6784
>Honestly if there's any argument to be made for why the /pol/ side of things might be driving people away, it's not that there's any problem with the content being posted, it's just that so many /pol/ anons are paranoid to the point of it being actually comical, and it's physically exhausting to try to have a conversation with them sometimes.
>Someone proposes tweaking the site format a bit,
Honestly, this rhetoric makes sirens go off in my head more than the split idea does.

I'd like to know where you got this information that polacks are driving ponyfags away from this site? That's something you could give me some citations on. You don't have to believe me, but I a ponyfag have never felt like a second-class citizen.

> You try to have a sensible, civil discussion about literally any topic only to end up in a pointless argument against some schizo who treats every conversation like a zero-sum bare-knuckle brawl.
I disagree hard with this description of the site. In fact, I'd argue that we're way more civil than other chans. Sperg civil wars are not alien to mlp either, as (I think it was) OP pointed out eqg aren't that popular amongst ponyfags. Isn't that because they're stuck in their ways and being schizo?

>What's being proposed here is just adding an extra board for pony-only posting,
>nobody's talking about banning Hitler or Aryanne.
But is Hitler a pony though?

>>6806
>I'd like to know where you got this information that polacks are driving ponyfags away from this site? That's something you could give me some citations on. You don't have to believe me, but I a ponyfag have never felt like a second-class citizen.
not that anon but it's not fucking hard to tell based on the threads that make it to the top and see the most activity, and the complete lack of OC being generated here, as well as the fact that when 4chan unbanned certain groups who made a home here in this website, like anon filly, they go right back to 4chan instead of remaining here. It's obvious to me, even without numbers, that if people are rushing back to 4cuck for their next you instead of here where people actually supposedly respect them, theres a fundamental difference between what content is obviously important here.

Ironic considering you are the faggots who keep seething and screaming kike at this criticism. you got angry at me for turning that sword deservedly back at you, and here you are doing it again and riding the hyperbole train. So I'll give you another form of measurement. My ideals suddenly have appeal. it's very obvious to me that I'm a powerless halfwit at best who tends to school on people mostly because they are lazy or don't do their due dilligence. As a result, I rarely get a following, yet people here are giving my idea some merited defense, and why not, you make my argument for me. Lashing out at other horsefuckers and calling them kikes. I'm hardly free of such sin, but I'm not the one pretending I'm an ubermench fighting off the jews. I'm a fucking retard who likes tiny horses and at best turning kike jewery around with meme magic and reverse uno cards. At worst all I want to do is read some fun escapist fantasy stuff to recharge instead of getting embroiled in another 2 hour long b8 thread. Here you are talking big about tradition and not feeling like a second class zigger but you aren't listening to other people. and all I had to do to get them to consider the idea was yell into the void one more time and have you retards attack me.

>>6805
I'll get back to this but I greentexted what I thought was an intresting contradiction. I don't care if you insult me or insinuate that I'm a kike. But; maybe I'm wrong and you aren't OP for both this thread and the related thread on /qa/, I just assumed; my point was that that thread talks about how anons reacted strongly negatively towards this thread but I didn't. I just disagreed and then you reacted that strongly towards me.
Seems like that whinny-thread was unnecessary.

That's it. Now it is about segregation because muh polaks.
Want more pony? Then post ponies, don't expect someponer do it for you.
/mlpol/ stays like it is.

>>6808
I'm "OP" in the sense that I am the one who you usually find taking pot shots at lotus/mlpol mods for turning down this idea already. but It wasn't my idea to make this thread and I was surprised to see it was made and gained as many posts as it did. I don't personally think this idea would ever work without them being fully on board with it rather than doing it grudgingly.
>>6809
>gets called out
>pretends nothing happened
>back to rhetoric tricks
can you rub your filthy talons any harder? this has already been answered. We do post pony. Just not here were it sucks to do so.

>>6810
>gets called out
Actually it was a subtle way to call your attention. Sorry if you didn't get it.

>>6811
>drawfaggotry
okay, but wheres the green anon? where are my prompts?
fuck even actual /pol/ has the occasional hitler prompt.

>>6812
Okay ESL kun, but if you want to make it clear you are talking to the thread instead of me, you don't link my post to make it clear you're addressing the thread.

>>6809
>Want more pony? Then post ponies, don't expect someponer do it for you.
I agree with this sentiment.
But it's not like I'm really against entertaining the idea in my mind, I just don't like the hard rhetoric. There might be merits to this split but my points on why haven't been answered in a satisfying way because I've been mostly attacked. When I'm personally attacked for criticizing things, it makes me question those people's intentions.

If we could have a civil conversation about the future of mlpol without this shitflinging it would help us avoid making bad decisions. I could be pro split but I'm not convinced and the way pro-people have straight-up ignored my points (Won't it be just another /a/? for example.), makes me inhale through my teeth and question their trustworthiness. On that note, I don't like how you simultaneously emphasize the importance of doing this but also refer to it as a small tweak.

>>6817
>hard rhetoric
This is not a minor thing.
Changes are not welcome, and that is proportional to autism's levels. >>>/ub/4698 →

>>6817
>makes me inhale through my teeth and question their trustworthiness.
first of all, grow some awareness of your own shitflinging, I already admit to flinging shit, but then, I flung shit because I am frustrated by knowing the mods are basically unmovable in this position, so I never had anything to lose by being polite, since I already lost everything by being polite. Second, Understand that dialogue even with the presence of IDs carries the stigma of the ancestor, if you go to bat and start talking about how you think other people are acting like kikes, then get upset when called out for the kike behavior, you can't there after say "well that wasn't me who originally called you kikes" you rode in under the banner of one side of this brawl or the other, without taking any effort to distinguish yourself. Thirdly, what point are you making that you feel hasn't been addressed? I've gone out of my way to address all of them. I don't know what /a/ is if you aren't referring to 4chan/a/ but if I had a guess this site tried an /a/ at some point and it failed? If so that's exactly why I said multiple times in this and the other thread that doing this is pointless as a temporary test the waters thing. You need patience and tenacity. People involved need to want to believe it will work and make inroads to make it happen. Otherwise yes, you will get a barren board that closes in 6 months of inactivity.
>small tweak important decision
It's small for the people who don't care and important for the people who do care, much like a mcdonalds pony toy is worthless to 99% of people but would be important to me. though I'm not the person who used such language, because I don't believe that what I proposed would be small, just that the longer we wait, the harder it will be in the future.

Finally, breath through your nose, it actually enhances brain function.

>>6818
It's funny how you can post something like this but remain steadfastly ignorant to the great lack of /pol/ type threads on /mlp/. Yes, you are right, we don't like change, and for most of us, having the top 20-30 threads be mostly political is too much change. I genuinely think a GR15 free /pol/ is a great idea, and I've trained myself to the point where I only come here for /pol/ related things, but I definitely do not come here for horse content. It's practically barren of it.

>>6820
>having the top 20-30 threads be mostly political is too much change.
It is easy to fix. Post and post and post ponies.

>>6821
>play in front of mommy and daddy arguing about politics.
No thanks, I'll post them on /mlp/ instead.

>>6822
Suit yourself, but change begins at home.
You may begin copypasta greens and them plastering the board with ponies. Nopony will stop you.

>>6823
>dude just be a huge homo and transpose all /mlp/ threads to /mlpol/
Sorry, unlike you I'm not a huge faggot who gets his rocks off by other people having a bad time, I just want to play with my horsies without seething jews and whites crying over some shekels. I saw plenty of opportunities where /mlp/ was shit and /mlpol/ could do it way better and people would have arrived at our doorstep, but it's useless if only one faggot sees that future, the rest of you want to eternally screech and doompaul yourselves so yes, it will never work. I just feel bad that apparently my ideas where more popular than I thought since I know some horsefuckers seemed to agree with me.

>>6824
>but it's useless if only one faggot sees that future
What you want is a curated space for ponies only. Would you like to use /sp/ for it?

>>6825
Better said. /sp/ might be what you want, rarely politics are there.

>>6825
No retard, what I want is a movement to take as many users from /mlp/ as possible and get the most creative board out of the thumb of the NSA and us military, and in doing so, create a fun space where I can play with ponies and not be harassed by jews and then banned for calling them out.
>>6826
Although I did think for a while in response to this thread being made at all what it would be like if I compromised and offered the idea of making a >green focused anime/pony hybrid board in the vein of /a/mlp/ with /mlp/ being the dominant board culture, your statement here >>6818 underlines the reason why I eventually discarded the idea. Branding does matter a lot when trying to get users to use a site, and I don't feel very many horsefuckers would come to the site specifically because of >nohooves. In the end, it's too much change, even if I would really like it.

So in other words no, I'm not just thinking about what I would personally like most, and no I don't want to go post alone on /sp/. If you can't figure that out after this many posts I'll call you out for at least being a troll.

>>6827
>No retard, what I want is a movement to take as many users from /mlp/ as possible
>and no I don't want to go post alone on /sp/
It is understandably, but you should begin at least with a "safe" place for you, in this case /sp/ is not a bad choice. If it doesn't grow, you will be the sole responsible.

>>6828
hes back to being a huge jew and seething
Or horsefuckers could continue to post on /mlp/ and you can have nothing.
>>6829
>If it doesn't grow, you would be solely responsible
since this was the change I'll make it clear, No, I wont be solely responsible because I don't control the branding or really anything else about it. What kind of low effort jewery is this? It's like saying if I go try and turn a mcdonalds into a hotel I'll be the sole person at fault despite not being allowed to do anything to the decore or make the place not look like a fucking mcdonalds. What is your greater plan by suggesting shit like this? keep seething until you find something you can meme on to ruin the thread? keep getting (you)s from one faggot on /qa/? just following your jewish instincts? I assure you the stakes aren't so high you have to keep filling this thread with your low effort b8 but if you persist I'm just going to hide your ID.

>>6830
>No, I wont be solely responsible because I don't control the branding or really anything else about it.
That's the tools and means you got, you'll figure out.

>>6831
>no, I'm just going to keep spamming my low effort arguments and keep b8ing no matter how many times I get btfo, hueheu, u mad bro?
>>6817
The fact that you act like we're the ones making disingenuous two faced posts is insufferable.

>>6819
Fun fact, with this staff it doesnt matter how sound your position is, if you're impolite you're automatically "in the wrong"

>>6833
What I was saying is that I was polite, but I was still soundly rejected and my advice was basically mocked to my face. I chugged hard on phrasing it in that post though.

>>6784
Here, have some citations.
>>6835
>>6831
>>6829
>>6826
>>6825
>>6823
>>6818
>>6812
>>6809
>>6802

>>6827
>create a fun space where I can play with ponies and not be harassed by jews and then banned for calling them out.
So you want to enable antisemitism and groups who hold such beliefs to flourish and be able to easily organize and attack others?

>>6838
Scram off nigger.

Im gonna take this opportunity to tell the grand story of:

How /a/ came to be

One day, Atlas asked me if he should make an /a/ board. I said (because I was the only staff on/responsive) "Yes".

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how /a/ came to be.
The background is, there were staff who wanted an /a/ board, and staff who were absolutrly vehemently opposed to it, ostensibky because the /a/ board would somehow cause a coup to turn mlpol into nu-4chan or some shit?
Personally, I didnt think the site needed an /a/, but I also thought the people crying about the site being fundamentally changed were off their rocker. So I told Atlas he should.

Funny, the site hasnt gotten taken over by anime. Funny how that all worked out.
Personally, Im opposed to a pony blue board, I simply dont see the point.
All this 'we'll get more /mulp/' posturing neglects a key fact: people go to 4chan (and by proxy, mlp) for (you)s, because theres more people there.
Its why even before Elon bought it, there is 100 to 1 the number of users on twitter vs. Gab or wtfe else.
Anons are creatures of habit, and 4chan is where they go to get their fix.
Anyone else notice how quickly pony porn became less interesting the longer it wasnt prohibited? I mean, its not like there arent what, 5 boorus dedicated to pony everything?
But politics, politics has always been a no-go for a significant majority of the fandom. For many, politics is WHY they seek the escapism of pastel ponies.
I dont oppose a blue pony board because I think it'll change the site at all, I oppose a blue pony board because I dont buy that mulp is gonna suddenly (or even gradually) start migrating if there is one.

As I said, the customer isnt going to buy the product no matter how much of a promotion you give them, they have already made the decision and now they're just seeing what they can grt you to agree to for the social exchange.

>>6841
this is why I also said it would take a long time and require people be on board. I don't, as you believe, think its pointless, but it definitely can be made pointless by defeatist attitude, ignorant strategy, and pure random chance that comes from risk taking I alluded to in the /mlp/a/ idea.

That said, I want to take a moment to define, not that I haven't, in clearer terms where /mlp/ is different than other boards. mlp is not like /a/, /tv/, /ck/ or the like. It's not a board that's centered around getting replies, but getting OC. Replies are a poormans currency on /mlp/. the real structure of the board is in content creators who give content for the (you)s of the /mlp/ rabble. in other words, unlike with a regular board where no matter how you scoop, you only get the same thing, if you where to turn content creators from the site to this one for any reason and have them come here, the masses would have less choice but to come here since that's where the content is. In the same way all of us put up with platforms like youtube, their individual investment is less important than the influence who creates OC.

There are of course ways to capture non-content creators, such as the people who hate eqg to an autistic degree, but the idea that /mlp/ is a typical board based around a symbol b8ing attention economy is simply not true. /mlp/ is a content creation board first and foremost, and a lot of the content and discussion there is simply time passing, not (you farming). the >green prompt rain dancing is as close as it gets to true farming, and the sheer lack of it on /mlpol/ is, I think, the biggest indication that it is /pol/ without gr15, rather than /mlp/ and /pol/ together as one

>>6844
Serious question:
What gives you confidence that making a pony blue board will result in content creators migrating?

>>6845
I don't have supreme confidence, but I have seen shit shows on /mlp/ by mods cause a massive amount of strife. at the time I came to the staff about creating such a board, the drama was hot, and I believe some of those people could have came here. Right now? It would be a way harder sell. which is also why I said from the beginning that you'd have to wait for people to get fed up. and since this place basically completely rejected the idea for so long, there's a danger that it wont work regardless. Situations like the scruffening, derpibooru, meta and divegrass threads being nuked, specific generals getting targeted. These are all opportunities, but once they are gone, they are gone. anonfilly has a home again, it will be a lot harder to get them to come back. My comments today where not an indication of some new chance or drama either. /mlp/ as of today is fairly stable. Only an acknowledgement that you've missed so many opportunities that occasionally I saw more pony OC being fostered in shitcords and being discussed there, even when those people still use and are from this website. Some how that couple of comments blew up into this. I'm significantly more used to yelling into the void and getting nothing back that I'm just as serious as your question when I say this thread is not what I expected to hear back.

I may at times be an asshole about being ignored, but it's not like I haven't passed up opportunities too, I'm jealous of the site's success and feel like it could have so easily taken some of 4chucks crown at times, but if we began tomorrow I couldn't tell you today an answer to that question that would be satisfactory. the things I do have clear ideas about I already gave; Give anons the ability to delet images in their own threads and be a mini janny. This isn't something I personally like, and for various reasons, if it's unpopular here as an idea, I would be all for not doing it, but I know it would get users specifically because of how autistic these faggots are. They make planning the con threads a huge fucking pain, and they also harrass the rewatch threads. Like I said, This isn't on the same level of advice as getting content creators, but it's an example of an opportunity. for the actual content creators, the thing that comes to mind is a place they would actually get (you)s in. but that's not a definitive plan to snag them at all, just a way to keep the ones we get instead of having them leave the second 4chan gets their act together.

No free lunch.

>>6845
oh, and for what it's worth. I dont know how popular anime is here, but it seems to be popular among the horsefuckers from here I talked to, so while I don't have any confidence a /mlp/a/ >green board would be a compelling way to steal /mlp/ users, it might be a way to colonize anime with /mlp/ board values, especially since /a/ does not allow /mlp/ board culture, and even fanfiction discussion is nuked from orbit. It isn't really my goal since it's a little too self indulgent of an idea but I can't say I wouldn't like it.

>>6846
>I may at times be an asshole about being ignored
Well... this. You won't get far with that obnoxious attitude.

>>6819
>first of all, grow some awareness of your own shitflinging
Yeah, let's dissect this.

> if you go to bat and start talking about how you think other people are acting like kikes,
Hmm, was that what I said? Let's have a look shall we.

>>6803
You said this:
<if you replaced horsefuckers with whites you would be called a jew and told to kill yourself immediately.
I said more in context but this is what you're referring to when you said I "started talking about how other people act like kikes":
>Point is, if we're going to start screaming, "You're the real kike," here wouldn't you who wants to change a tradition while defaming the people in it that doesn't want to, be the real kike, mah nigguha.
It ends on period but grammatically should end on a questionmark. It's a rehtorical question to make a point about what you are doing. I didn't say you were a kike but even if I had it would been a response to you insinuating that I use jewish rethoric. I think the comparision falls flat there for you.

But again, I'm not offended about this part, which I also wrote in that post. I just thought it was weird that while there's a thread on /qa/ talking about the paranoia this thread received, you attack me for giving you genuine criticism. Go back over my posts. They are not personal whatsoever before you start and barely afterward either.

I kinda hate how some who are pro split has brunt bridges with me. As I said, I'm not against entertaining this idea but such a thing has to be done in a civilized manner. When I ask for substance and you attack me, it makes me think you have none.

> I don't know what /a/ is if you aren't referring to 4chan/a/ but if I had a guess this site tried an /a/ at some point and it failed? If so that's exactly why I said multiple times in this and the other thread that doing this is pointless as a temporary test the waters thing. You need patience and tenacity. People involved need to want to believe it will work and make inroads to make it happen. Otherwise yes, you will get a barren board that closes in 6 months of inactivity.
We have an /a/. Look at the board bar at the top and then the furthest board to the left. It's been there for years. Your making my point as well. You need content for it aka, "You need patiance and tenacity. People involved need to want to believe it will work and make inroad to make it happen." So content is king and is why mlpol is not as active on pony as /mlp/ create content and there will be people.

Why Anonfilly went back to 4chan had nothing to with politics, I believe. Most of the anonfillies went to discord before they went to us anyway. People complained in our thread that most people spent their time on discord instead of being on the board. When the thread on /mlp/ opened again, those on discord probably migrated there and those here probably left as well. Was this because polacks had harassed them with politics? No. I Lurked that thread from the beginning of it being here till now. Very few political discussions happened on it and most of that was just meming.

So why did the fillies go back to /mlp/ if the mods there are abusive and the polacks here don't bother them? Simple, the same reason you visit /mlp/ because that's where people are. There are more polacks on 4/pol/ still than there are polacks here, hundred precent. Creative people go were they get most attention and so that's where the greens are.

Also, I guess I should address that thinking of this as a brawl is your problem. I'm not at all closed to the idea that we could have a separate board for pony but I'd like to weigh the pros and cons for such a thing. It's a slippery slope to blame me for what other posters have posted that have similar views as me but I suppose I can relate to such a thing.

Again, I don't think your idea has no merits but I don't think it's going to result in what you imagine. I guess it's too late to start over but I genuinely think it would be more beneficial for us both if we could discuss this. Maybe you have some argument that I haven't considered that will make me be pro this split.

>>6856
>We have an /a/.
The stress should be on "have".

>>6856
>People complained in our thread that most people spent their time on discord instead of being on the board.
>board
Should be thread.

>>6841
The only problem with /a/ is that nobody uses it, tbh. If there were even two regularly-posted threads it would be on par with the other boards. It still gets more traffick than /cyb/.
I was personally of the camp that some of the other April 2017 boards could come back, but since our /sp/ stands for shitposting, /spa/ is kind of off the table.

>>6859
>no one uses it
Testament to how much actual demand there was, versus individual perception

>>6856
>It ends on period but grammatically should end on a questionmark. It's a rehtorical question to make a point about what you are doing
Right, I dont know why I expected someone so stupid and unself aware to even begin to acknowledge that the criticism instantly resulted in accusations of me being a divide and conquer kike. So yes, I did think pretty carefuly about what I said, I gave you exactly what you fucking deserved. Is that clear enough for you? or do you have another fantasy to concoct where you're the innocent victim here?

>>6863
Wow. A bit uppity today.
As an anon you may be called a kike at any time if you come with kiked ideas. You positively know this, so playing the offended party won't fly.
You may not be a normie, and yet you behave like one many times.

I'm pretty sure all or most of my points of concern have already been stated by other posters, but I'll contribute my thoughts anyways

I am not a fan of adding a new pony-only board at all.

The entire point of /mlpol/ is that it is a merged board. Two different topics come together in synchronicity. Segregating pony and politics is a why-bother that is contrary to the entire idea.

The argument I keep hearing for the segregation is that politics is a downer and black pilled. Have you even been on /mlp/? That board makes /mlpol/ look like radical utopians by comparison. At least a few years ago, you couldn't go anywhere without hearing "oh my God everything good is gone!" It is/was insufferable and was far worse than /mlpol/, at least at the time.

The reason most /mlp/ users don't come here isn't because of politics, it's because of the Social Media Effect. Chan sites, like all social media of any kind, are naturally occurring monopolies, because people want to go where other people already are. Having a board with no politics won't help that. If anything, it means less total activity.

But with all of that said, it isn't necessarily much harm to add an experimental board. I would want it to be more than just "/mlp/ but not owned by a Jap." Maybe make it /safe/ with a ban on doom-posting, or have some kind of theme to it like forced optimism. Maybe call it AFFWF (Aff woof?) for "A Future for White Foals" or something. You can at least have fun with the idea

>>6866
These seem like mostly fair points. I still think we could benefit to experiment a bit with boards, although my opnion on the matter isn't that strong.

So what is the progress on developing such board so far? Are we even going to get it?

>>6873
/sp/ has been ready for years. Just saying.

>>6873
From what I understand, it doesn't actually take that long to make a board. It's only a matter of approval.

>>6874
I have not been there much, but the board is just called “Football”. What does that have to do with anything? Also, how would we make it attractive to the members of /mlpol/ and 4/mlp/?
>>6875
So the procedure for creating a new board already adds the necessary components to the database?

>>6876
/sp/ is a random board, named after sportschan after a series of back and fourth raids while John Elway memes were all the rage.

>>6873
The decision lies ultimately with staff. It used to be that a specific staff member would take ownership/responibility of whatever board. /vx/ for example, is Lotus' purview, while John Elway - who is Football forevermore, appearing in the guise of a man, but inseparable from either the one True Football or the Denver Broncos, who are themselves Football but on a multitudinal level - has sole and exclusive dominion over Fottball, for he is the Alpha and Omega of Football, supplemented by the storage rooms in space assisting in the housing of all that Football.
Sorry, havent broncoposted in a while.
Returning to the topic, a specific staff member would technically need to do likewise with this new board. Having said, that precious requirement is a bit arbitrary IMO and fosters a 'thats not my board so IDGAF' mentality in some (thats just a general caveat, not aomething directed at anyone in general/particular).
Now, when I say about the decision, I mean it literally. It will likely take more than a handful of anons clamoring to make a sufficiently compelling case, and I say that having personally made dozens of compelling cases.
Not a criticism, but with a few very specific examples, staff does not operate from a very 'quick-to-action' sort of strategy.
Tl;dr. Get comfy, and prepare to politely make your case for a drawn out period of time. Dont insult staff either, they get really mad and oppose you on principal when you do that (yes, even if they have been insulting you extensively prior, and your insults are reactionary/complementary).
>>6875
Technically speaking, unless the code has been ammended, any staff member could make a new board at any time. Literally, a few clicks and a few lines of text. While cumbersome in other ways, there are a goodly number of ways that Pupper's code is quite efficient.
The problem is that any staff member who MIGHT make such a thread in advance of a staff consensus woumd immediately be decided to have 'gone rogue' or any number of other character assassinations.
If you're not getting how UNwelcome it is to be on staff AND decisive, I dont know what to tell you

as someone who's been here since the beginning I don't see a reason to *not* have a blue board with the sole exception that someone trying to shill and such should still be flooded with pony poon to drive them off
the jew fears pone puss

>>6880
Tbh, I think most people who'd post to the blue pony board wouldn't be deterred by pony porn, only annoyed.
Horse porn only deters redditors on the /pol/ side.

>>6882
This.

>>6883
Based.

>>6884
UNFFF

Now they are talking about no horse pussy.
Da fuck is going on here.

>>6882
>>6883
>>6884
>>6885
based horse pussy appreciators

having a blue board would be heretical. we must not sacrifice horse pussy for potential newfags

>>6888
Checked and based, need more

newfags don't remember rule 10 smh

>>6866
>Have you even been on /mlp/?
Have you? the way the rest of your post reads makes it clear you haven;t
That board makes /mlpol/ look like radical utopians by comparison. At least a few years ago, you couldn't go anywhere without hearing "oh my God everything good is gone!" It is/was insufferable and was far worse than /mlpol/
Thats exactly the time period I brought it up and why I said earlier that you could get users, because the experiance back then was so fucking awful, now? it's far from great but it's still better than this. Imagine actually arguing that an endless bumping newsfeed of what
>(((media))) site
here thinks about
>(((news))))
to be preferable than the actual state of /mlp/ right now, without mod dicking us for calling derpibooru jews anymore, great ammounts of OC, and what is looking to be 2 yearly cons.

You have your head so far up your ass that your basic premise, while imho, completely defensible, is completely undermined by everything you said after.

>>6879
>Tl;dr. Get comfy, and prepare to politely make your case for a drawn out period of time. Dont insult staff either, they get really mad and oppose you on principal when you do that (yes, even if they have been insulting you extensively prior, and your insults are reactionary/complementary).
if they want to act like ziggers I'm not going to treat them like they're white, no matter how much it inconveniences me or my goals.

>>6896
Though not my words, this beautifully summarizes my disposition as well

>>6886
That's a pretty fair point. Any new board wouldn't necessarily need to be blue

>>6879
This post is intended to be critical, but... uh... I can't find where it's wrong

>>6895
no u

>>6896
>>6898
>screeching like a child who is upset he didn't get a toy in his meal at burger king is going to be effective against people who can, with literally no effort at all, just never read your posts
Solid plan guys. Real solid plan. Let's see how well that works out for you.

>>6873
The idea has been discussed within staff. No one at all thinks it is necessary and it would probably just become another dead board... but at the same time, it doesn't look like there could be too much harm.

My favorite ideas for names are /clozapine/ - Maredecine , and /snowpitty/ - Rainbowshine

Other proposed ideas are /mare/ - Post mares ,
/imastupidmoronwithanuglyfaceandbigbuttandmybuttsmellsandiliketokissmyownbutt/
/imastupidmoronwithanuglyfaceandbigbuttandmybuttsmellsandiliketokissmyownbuttandponutconnoisseursappreciationclubhousebutjustsoeveryoneisawareimastupidmoronwithanuglyfaceandbigbuttandmybuttsmellsandiliketokissmyownbuttbutalsoponutsareprettygoodtooijustwanteveryonetobeawarethoughthatiamastupidmoronwithanuglyfaceandbigbuttandmybuttsmellsandiliketokissmyownbutt/ , and
/[the entire text of fallout equestria]/

>>6903
I vote for /[the entire text of fallout equestria]/

Surely a blue pony board should be named after a blue pony, right?
I nominate /rd/ or /dash/

>>6903
I might think the same way. It may have a few days of viability within the /mlpol/ community, but unless members of other boards like 4/mlp/ are convinced to browse both boards, then I think it may just be a passing fad.

So let me see if I have this correct.
A blue board
Expressly and all-but exclusively ponies
No flags/IDs
Hidden board?
... ngl, I can think of ways it could work. Bump limits would need to be redressed tho one could argue thats long overdue

>>6910
Why not just have more threads like these >>>/mlpol/312123 → on existing boards? The only difference would be in whether explicit imagery would be allowed.

>>6911
Because "that's not what mulp/mlp-fags want", is the 0rrvailing argument.
I dont agree with the argument, I maintain that certain parties are just being petulent, BUT I can still make it work.

*prevailing

>>6912
If we have a new board, the site owners would probably also need to come up with more money to pay the new people who’d be staffing it. Also, it could be a passing fad that lasts just for a few days because /mlpol/ may not exactly be the type of site that is attractive to many of the people of /mlp/ right now.

>>6911
>Why not just have more threads like these >>>/mlpol/312123 → → on existing boards?
Think it this way, there is a party claiming that more pony is needed, and yet, they rarely post ponies. Surely they'll replicate that that's not true, and yet, their autism with tons of ponies can't be seen.
Corollary: they want the effort done by other poners.
A typical case of

>>6914
Are staff paid now?
And why would new people be necessary to police a board you expect to have low activity anyway?

>>6914
Adorable. Simply adorable. You're not wrong about the odds of it being a passing phase, and that seems to be the salient counter-argument, from a certain perspective at least.
>>6915
This, ultimately

>>6914
>If we have a new board, the site owners would probably also need to come up with more money to pay the new people who’d be staffing it.
I sense a parasitical commie.

>>6915
>Corollary: they want the effort done by other poners.
A typical case of
Is there not an over-representation of that on /mlp/? And yet thats who should be appealed to for newfaggots? I pose these rhetorically.

>>6916
If it develops a reputation of having a lack of policing, then people could easily spam CP and malware on there without consequences.
>>6918
Why? Isn’t being paid for one’s labor one of the virtues of capitalism?

>>6920
Well, well, well.

>>6884
>>6888
Fucking an actual horse does not makes you better than a furry fucking the family dog.

>>6920
You can just leave if you expect monetary transactions to take place in the pit of slime.

Honestly, mlpol, as well as any other small chans is just doomed to be slow, why? Because:
>>6866
>of the Social Media Effect. Chan sites, like all social media of any kind, are naturally occurring monopolies, because people want to go where other people already are.

I don't think taking something away is going to bring any more traffic at all.
From my personal experience, having seen this board rise from atlas setting up an HTTP site and an anon calling it a honeypot, there is three problems:

1 - You need a focus to attract people and it has to be compatible with current boards
You wanna attract "traffic" but tell me, what the fuck is traffic?
Zoophiles?
Bronies?
Horsefuckers?
/pol/tards?
You can't attract them all at the same time, no matter what you do. Some groups like ponyfags and /pol/tards naturally repel each-other for many reasons, those who can stand the pony are the true good people but those are fucking rare, hence why the main board has such a small population.
/pol/ is mostly filled with pre-teens and motherfuckers that can't even read two paragraphs before screaming DA JOOZ, of course they wont be able to see past the ponies.

And even if you give a board a focus, like /a/ why would /a/ people post here instead of the much bigger, much older alternative that is 4chin?
4chin is shit, but it is bearable shit, you must give users a reason to post here and not there, and obviously "better mods and community" is not good enough of a reason.

2 - It is a social suicide to be found posting here
I love you guys, i have had some real good arguments here, i learnt a lot on my time posting here and i even made a ton of threads on /ub/ i actually improved my life quite a lot from posting here.
But even if i did, i know no one must ever know i post on /mlpol/ because if there is one thing normies hate is <le evil natzeez> and believe me i don't wanna lose my job because i like having an actual conversation in the political sperging horseforum.

3 - The internet has changed
Face it guys, the only reason 4chin is populated is because it's this "mythical" imageboard that's known to be full of lulz.
Mlpol is nowhere on the map, most people think it was a fun april 1st joke that died April 2nd and those who don't understand mlpol's board culture like this faggot >>6876 simply get confused and don't seem to really care enough to understand why things are the way they are.

Even if the site got traffic, it will most likely be mostly normies that wont stick for long.
The world is moving and imageboards are slowly becoming an archaic thing of the past, people don't understand how they work nor they care to know, they just wanna hop-in, shit and have fun as if every imageboard ever was /b/

I have been guilty of not posting as much here, but i have not been posting anywhere on the internet for a few years now, just chatting with friends and studying/youtube.
The internet is just not that fun these days, when fun things happen they are usually temporary, and well, posting here is usually not that fun (not that other imageboards/social media are better in any way, they are also boring)
The reason i keep coming back here is because of quality, no other imageboard manages to have as many quality per post as mlpol.net, so that's a huge strongpoint for the board, yet a hard to market strongpoint.
>Come to mlpol, we have qualityposting

>T.anon who used to roleplay as khajiit

>>6922
based khajiit poster

>>6922
Still munching that profound post.
Saved.

>>6895
This, mods and jannies are utter shit in /mlp/, but that's literally about it.

>>6885
>UNFFF
Indeed!
>>6888
>based horse pussy appreciators
>having a blue board would be heretical. we must not sacrifice horse pussy for potential newfags
This.
Have some more glorious equine pussy.
I agree with you fully, anon, it would be a place for fags who don't like pony pussy can be without what was the fundamental basis of /mlpol/ when the April fool's merge happened,
To create a board such as that would be heretical to the original rules, as Lotus previously stated in this thread.
>>6922
>Fucking an actual horse does not makes you better than a furry fucking the family dog.
The difference is that the show isn't about half human half horses and i don't like dog pussy or any other animal's vagina, neither do i dress up like my OC or waifu but if i could i would make a pony look like Luna because that would be hot.
Horses are the main animal of the show's character design, obviously some anons are going to also be interested in where the anatomically correct pastel pony vaginas actually came from.
Being a pony fucking Nazi pony fag is the ultimate power level possible in Pony PussE. I'm no nigger loving fur faggot that'll yiff in hell, i'll be fucking ponies down there instead.
>Implying mares aren't better than women or sexy
Plebeian taste, anon.
>T.anon who used to roleplay as khajiit
Can i tell you a mare fortune?
Horses are hotter than whores.
(You) have given me a few replies over in that thread, i thought you'd be into cat pussy given you called yourself khajiiit. Kek.

>>6926
>Being a pony fucking Nazi pony fag is the ultimate power level possible in Pony PussE.
This.
And it is fundamental to keep the normals away.

>>6922
Khajiit

>>6928
Ah, a fellow horse fucking National Socialist pastel pony preacher!
>This.
/)
>And it is fundamental to keep the normals away.
It is the integral deterrent of this place against all newfags and plebittors.

>>6930
/)

So if one is to summarize this growing consensus, something like:
"Having a blue board that discourages/prohibits politics would be a move fundamentally contrary to /mlpol/ history and practice."
One could further summarize the proposal, in context:
"All /mlpol/ needs to get more from /mlp/ is to be less /mlpol/".
One of the problems with 4chan is that it appeals to disaffected teenagers who 0ften feel (whether through abuse on one end, and not being allowed to do whatever/whenever on the other) which can psychologically be transferred onto jannies/mods. This is the normal state for anons in particular, boards in general, and the site as a whole; fuck jannies, fuck niggers, etc.
Its therefore alien for 4chan posters to NOT feel some degree of resentment toward their host(s), and moreover it is alien for hosts to be particularly accommodating to the user base.
/mlp/ simply doesnt 'get' /mlpol/, but it isnt that there's been no opportunity. In fact, theres been 5 years for that to happen. Golly, who's dereliction is THAT the responsibility of?

>>6926
>half human half horses
Well according to the ancient furry chart, ponies fall into the "you sick bastard" category, so i think you're safe as long as you're not into satyr.
Jokes aside, it's just weird to fuck a horse anon, i guess it's ok to fantasize about it but please don't take the chance if it ever presents itself, you'd be just sticking your dick in an animal, in no way would people see you as anything but a zoophile.
Or just do it, like, it's not like i care that much honestly, i'm being dramatic here.

>i thought you'd be into cat pussy given you called yourself khajiiit
I like cats but not sexually, i don't really have much of a non-ironical interest in eroticism.

>>6929
Hoi!
>Pic

>>6934
>it's just weird to fuck a horse anon,
True, anonfillies aren't for sexual!
Only >rape

>>6935
Fly! Fly away filly!
Escape all the >rape

>>6936
>happy free Filly
Refreshing. Yay!

I did not expect this thread to get this much traffic when I made it... I guess that means it was worth making then.

>>6895
>At least a few years ago, you couldn't go anywhere without hearing "oh my God everything good is gone!" It is/was insufferable and was far worse than /mlpol/
>That's exactly the time period I brought it up and why I said earlier that you could get users

There's a point to be made here, and not just for the blue board.
/mlpol/ could benefit to be more aware about changes in the horsesphere and strike the iron when it's hot, as there have been times where I feel like we've missed opportunities to generate content and bring in users. There are a lot of key opportunities when this kind of thing happens, such as booru shitstorms, /mlp/ staff drama, and the periods immediately before and after the dropping of new series/seasons where we have opportunities to dominate this fandom, or at least retain/regain users.

>>6938
T-t-troublemaker.

>>6939
>/mlpol/ could benefit to be more aware about changes in the horsesphere and strike the iron when it's hot, as there have been times where I feel like we've missed opportunities to generate content and bring in users
Huh, sounds alot like something an ex staff used to go on about. I recall him doing so at length. At the time, he emphasized that an absence of leadership in staff is a woeful negligence (and nothingbhas changed, so par for the course) that needs to be addressed. As though, faggots sitting in a discord as 'online' but not actually giving a fuck about the site was a problem.
(spoiler: it is, but its the type of problem that takes it's time to manifest)
But who cares! Everything 'seems' right 'for now', so there's no harm right lads?
(directed at staff)

"In several years no one will care they'll be rich and dead. So let someone else find a cure for it" - Hello Helicopter

>>6940
It's just a change of pace; all sites have some drama.
I think it's important to talk about these things.

>>6943
>I think it's important to talk about these things.
You are disruptive. That's not welcome.

>>6944
Disruptive to what exactly?

>>6945
150 posts above plus many previous breads... the nerve you have.

Why not make a semi-blue board where posting porn threads is forbidden, but flooding any shit threads with horse pussy is permitted?
The more activity we steal from sites with tranny jannies, the better. And 4chan has tranny jannies.

>>6946
There's no nerve. it's a simple question.

>>6941
Staff is not the head of the community but an extension of the community's will tho, it makes sense to be de-centralized
All in all the site falls on the community's lap, if the community does nothing, the site will go nowhere.

The real question might be what does the mlpolacks want to do?

I know i like places where i can find people that draw/write more or less as bad as i do, so we can get some friendly competition going which greatly boosts fun and improvement.

>>6902
>Solid plan guys. Real solid plan. Let's see how well that works out for you.
I already have a better plan than sucking mods off all day in the hopes of rain water. I'm only here arguing this shit in the first place because someone else made this thread on my ideas behalf so I feel obligated to. see>>6807
>>6906
I completely agree and my original post was more to dig in the idea that the mods here missed an opportunity and where huge faggots about it. I do think the idea of a mlpa board has branding going for it if this site stays consistant to memecross boards, but I dont seriously think /a/ content belongs here, as much as I personally like it. It's not unwelcome, but ought to be in the minority at the very least, and combining a greentext board with >nohooves sounds like the easiest way in the world to put the final nail in the coffin for mlpol with the >eqgreeeee crowd.
>>6910
the only thing reducing bump limits on mlpol would do is finally kill all the existing horse that still somehow clings to life on that board.
>>6905
stop blowing me.

>>6914
the people who want the project to succeed should do it for fucking free like the good tranny jannys they are. 4chucks sucks and fucks uses this power for bad. but it can be used for good.
>>6915
why does this assholes post keep getting unhidden. Is hiding stored server side based on IP or something?
>>6916
if the board is expected to grow its a reasonable problem to bring up but I don't see how it would necessitate the staff actually pay people. I'm the first person who will say horsefuckers deserve money and SHOULD pay eachother, but not for something so small as occasionally removing some weeds. you should be buying soapanons soap, not paying people so you can shitpost a little easier.
>>6919
The singular and only purpose of this idea is to have what already exists on /mlp/ but without the jews who run that shithole nuking people for speaking their mind in the process. It's not so some faggots can post ponies for me. I already have tons of faggots who do that, they just don't do it here.
>>6920
CP at the very least is defeated by modern day learning, at least afaik.
>capitalism
who the hell here is a capitalist?
>>6922
>, like /a/ why would /a/ people post here instead of the much bigger, much older alternative that is 4chin?
as mentioned earlier, /a/ posters who like posting OC content in the same vein as 4chan could be compelled if marketed to. Marketing in general for a userbase is not usually a product of any persons particular action but the majoritys inaction. There are groups among site communities with weak monopolies who want to break away but wont do the work themselves. PF and 4th edition D&D, for example. The number of people, the effort involved in reaching them, the reward of having them around, are all things that deserve legitimate skepticism, but you can, at the very least, see that bringing such anons here is a possibility specifically because the site administration they work under pisses them off.
>I have been guilty of not posting as much here, but i have not been posting anywhere on the internet for a few years now, just chatting with friends and studying/youtube.
this isn't something to be ashamed of. mlpols content is simply not that good. Yes it's a great speakeasy, but the vast majority of daily content is literally unaltered opinions of niche and mainstream news with the very occasional greentext implication. This is why I made the shitpost in the first place, because the content from the horse point of view on mlpol really is that shit.
Honestly even from a polack point of view it's increadibly shit.

>>6932
the staff on this site, for letting politics be the defining factor of the board to the point that the horsefuckers packed their bags and left. no different than a scantuary state that keeps importing pajeets and niggers. suddenly whites are to be blamed for white flight? fuck you. I'm not apologizing for it. I post horse in places where I am rewarded for posting horse. This place does not even attempt to do that, and actively works against it.

>>6950
>the mods here missed an opportunity and where huge faggots about it
You'd be not? surprised how often they do that, even when someone ia smacking them about the face and torso with an idea.
>>6949
Oh really? Please, illustrate how many staff decisions that the board has been privy to, or consulted on? Seriously, when has staff EVER consulted the users? MLH? Anonfilly?
Horseshit. Staff in general (and individual members in particular) have been EXPRESSLY AND DELIBERATELY avoidant about consulting, notifying, or involving users. Go on, tempt me to cite examples.

>>6945
stop giving that zigger yous

>>6952
Lol no, thank you for playing.
See, this is one of the things Im PROUD of /mlpol/ for; by and large, users are interested in taking - AND NOT PASSING - responsibility for their own actions.

>>6956
>all complains, no shitposting
Then go on, post ponies, I dare you.

>>6956
>the constant excrement of low effort news articles that pass for content on /mlpol/
Please, would you be so kind to post yours, or if not news, then posting something at all?
WOW!

>>6960
WOW! x2
Bitter tonight, huh?

>>6961
>no argument.
sasuga street shitter

>>6956
If I passed on the responsibility, why am I still here, making the case to users in public instead of in a private dicksword?
The reality is, I hate wasting effort and repeating myself, which alas participating in staff requires BOTH.
But go on, "no u" some more, Im sure it will stick next time.

>>6962
>no argument
Is that a joke?
Shitpost content and stop complaining.

I had actually let this thread go out of my mind thinking it had resolved itself but apparently not.

I don't get it. Why are you people talking about the content of mlpol, isn't that my talking point. That the best way to fish in newfags is by having better content and spreading the word about it. Wasn't the premise of why you wanted a blue board to begin with that the polacks' politics is obstructing ponyfags from enjoying the board and therefore you want a blueboard to get away from it? Again, to that I say people go to where people are so it has nothing to do with politics and if it has, those types of people won't visit a site where /pol/ is a stable rather than an unwanted appendix anyway.

Regardless, the whole mods aren't listening, and taking their chances is a bit a mute coming from you considering the mods clearly intend to implement your idea, >>6903

>>6966
>stable
Staple

>>6966
I'd like to add that, while mlpol has shit content just like any other chan, it has a lot of great content as well. GG's review thread comes to mind.

>>6966
>polacks' politics is obstructing ponyfags from enjoying the board
I missed that premise.
Well, on my part I may grant that wish for a while by stopping posting. Let us see how it goes.

I'll also take the opportunity to point out that users are blissfully(?) unaware of how much detractor/spam/cp that gets posted, nuked, and forgotten. With cause.
Just saying, its not all bad.
Like everything, nuance

>>6953
The fuck you on about dude
Anonfillies can just come and go as they please and that violates no rule, every other board sort of grew organically or because someone simply asked for it's creation.

The staff usually does not need to consult the users because in the first place it is users that ask for things to change, that's the very essence of mlpol, it is user-driven and not admin-driven.
There is nothing really special about mlpol.net apart from already being established, if things over here were to ever go to shit people would just move to a new bunker, like in the past, when it was created.

I admit i have been coming and going for a while, not checking the board out as much as i should have, but i fail to see how this is a tyranny at all.
And like hell I'm going to backtrack every little site change like the thread talking about glowies not acknowledging the big nose nukes.

>>6951
>/a/ posters who like posting OC content in the same vein as 4chan could be compelled if marketed to
Well, we might still run into the tiny problem that is- People hate both mlp and politics so by itself the board is kind of like a filter for people that in the first place probably didn't even matter anyway.
> mlpols content is simply not that good.
Honestly it's more intellectually engaging than most of the shit i find on the internet these days, hence why i come back here.
Glimmer analysis threads, the threads on üb and an userbase whom actually types more than 2 lines of text to reply, it's pretty comfy.
If anything mlpol might not have as much funposting as other places but eh

I've realized there seems to always be a thread up with someone complaining about the site dying, the site being slow or the staff being bad.
It would be nice if people just calm the fuck down and enjoy posting.

>>6972
Huh? I have bouts where I visit daily and refresh often and I wind up reporting shit like that almost every night. I would be surprised if anyone isn't aware of it.
>picrel before it gets removed
sorry for mobilefagging

>>6973
>I disagree but,... I cant cite anything
The Amber Heard defense, then?
>>6975
Yeah, I was hoping that post wouldnt end up being cruelly ironic, but one never knows. I prefer to let the response dictate the tone.
The idea is tbat, either it WILL be deleted in a timely manner and validate my post, OR it WONT be deleted in a timely manner, in which my post becomes an ironic troll.

>>6976
>The Amber Heard defense, then?
Dude, darling, honey, retard
You want me to scrap off 4+ years of mongol horse screams to spoonfed you shit?
Why don't you go look for yourself if you are so curious, even though in the thread itself you can see the mods actually engage with the community, hence disproving your argument at it's very root.

I'm not going to reply to you anymore now, have a pony.

>>6977
Checked.
Also, nice pone. Haven't seen LMR in a long time, but waifu'd her eons ago. Based, anon. Based.

>>6977
Well, unless you're me and a good percent of your posts are more or less subtle trolling of staff, it helps to provide a bit of gravitas to your points. In doing so, one neuters those want to gaslight/re-frame/posture in a manner that more or less authentically invalidates your position. I wasnt suggesting you're wrong, but an example (of for illustration) could help the audience.

>>6977
Whoops, sent too quick
>lel mods are here talking, ur dumb
Yes, staff can be forced to address certain topics when they become unavoidably obvious. That is not the same as being proactive and stitching in time to avoid 9, as the saying goes.

The issue I posited is that staff doesnt address ANY site decisions with the userbase, basically ever.
I cited MLH and Anonfilly as examples because when they showed up, there was contention amongst staff.
I can provide MORE contentious examples, if preferred.

>>6980
>I cited MLH and Anonfilly as examples because when they showed up, there was contention amongst staff.
No. There wasn't. Stop making shit up.

>>6963
>I hate wasting effort and repeating myself
You've been wasting your effort and repeating yourself for over a year now You have all of the self-awareness, self-importance, and ability to stay on topic as Nigel, and all of the annoyance and efficacy of a barking chihuahua.

I and other members of staff generally ignore you because you are not worth our time responding to and because other users are intelligent enough to see who you are, what you are doing, and why you are doing it. But you shit up every single thread on any /qa/ topic with your tirades, you often shit up threads on other boards, and sometimes, like now, you are blatantly lying. You are on notice to stop.

>>6981
>stop making things up
Apparently, I made up the discussion about whether or not MLH was permissible? That specific discussion which precipitated my posting to the MLH thread that staff was okay with it? And anonfilly, as an alleged pseudo-pedo thread? There was no contention/dis ussion there? Never change, Lotus. I accede those were not VERY contentious, but thats also why I cited them.
>Youve been wasting your effort
Tellingly, you assume my intentions. I'd be quite surprised if you could actually discern my intent.
>no efficacy
Really? I got you lot to do a bunch of things you refused while on staff. I suppose thats inefficacy?
>you're not worth time and reaponse
That explains your response.
>you shit up every /qa/ thread
If you could go one thread without artificial posturing, revisionist history, and gaslighting, I MIGHT relent.
>blatant lying
Surely you have evidence to support this assertion?
The reality is, while I AM a deviously manipulative bastard, lying is something I DONT do, simply because it complicates exhanges. I dont wanna have to remember what I specifically said one time, its maddening. I shoot from the hip, and anything I say I can and will speak to. I dont hideuntil the heat is too high to ignore.

>>6980
I wasn't looking forward to replying to this again, but dude, seriously i don't understand where you wanna go with your post.

>Well, unless you're me and(...)
I honestly don't care how it looks or how much weight it might bring to my points, to type these posts replying to you is already a seemingly fruitless endeavor, to dig for evidence for what would probably be more than four hours just to prove a point is insane, specially because as i said the staff is communicating, which bring us to:

>Staff can be forced to address certain topics when they become unavoidably obvious.
>That is not the same as being proactive and stitching in time to avoid 9, as the saying goes.
>The issue I posited is that staff doesnt address ANY site decisions with the userbase, basically ever.
So you want the staff to be proactive( (of a person, policy, or action) creating or controlling a situation by causing something to happen rather than responding to it after it has happened.)
Yet at the same time you want the staff to ask the userbase before taking action.
So in other words, you want the staff to create a thread every time something seems to be going to happen and ask "guys, plz is it ok if we ban this thread if it ever appears here?"

Is that the root of the problem for you, or what is it? I really don't understand which trouble you see with the current management and i would like to listen to you, in a clear way.
You've cited the problems you see already, the staff not being proactive, not communicating not being there, anything else? please cite it.
And i want you to tell me what is your proposal what is it that you expect of the staff, provide me an example of what a "good staff" would look like.

And keep in mind, the staff works for free, you can't ask people that have actual lives and responsibilities to drop all that shit to police the Equus smegma index.
If you want to fix anything, or even illustrate your point at all, please do illustrate it clearly and in detail as i have asked, instead of just pointing to problems that you seem to see and complain about it.

>>6952
I still don't understand what case you're trying to make. What exactly do you want staff to do? The board is for politics and ponies; if more people post politics then we're going to have more political threads, if more people post horse threads then we have more horse threads. If you don't like the ratio of /pol/ to /mlp/, then post more /mlp/ threads. What do you want staff to do for you exactly? Do you want us to ban political threads? Add some kind of Twitter-style shadow algorithm that moves pony threads to the top of the page regardless of which threads are actually getting bumped? Frankly I don't care for a lot of the low-effort posts that are just news articles or boomer memes either, but the community sets the content, all we do is provide the space and delete spam.

>I post horse in places where I am rewarded for posting horse.
This is just stupid. Do you want someone to playfully massage your balls every time you post a pony? Here, watch this:

>>>/mlpol/344983 →

This is literally how easy it is to post a thread about ponies. If you want more of them, post more of them. Otherwise I'm not really sure what to tell you.

>>6982
>I'd be quite surprised if you could actually discern my intent.
I'd be quite surprised if anyone could. Your actions have been making progressively less sense for some time now.

>>6914
>>6916
>>6951
Nobody here receives or expects any compensation. Being staff here is literally the most thankless job anyone could possibly have.

Anyway, whatever; if people want a new board we can make one, if not we don't have to. Here's a poll so we can just decide this the easy way:
https://strawpoll.com/polls/2ayLWpqKbZ4

>>6983
> I really don't understand which trouble you see with the current management and i would like to listen to you, in a clear way.
<Fook me, this lad seems like 'es listenin'!
Very well

>So you want the staff to be proactive
Yes
>Yet at the same time you want the staff to ask the userbase before taking action
Depends on the context
>you want the staff to create a thread every time something seems to be going to happen and ask "guys, plz is it ok if we ban this thread if it ever appears here?"
Lol no. For one, a single thread would likely suffice. Much like Pupper's 'site changes/updates thread', a thread expressly for staff to interact both to and from users and get their input. Imagine asking permission! I'm talking about "Hey we noticed this" or "We're thinking about implementing a that" or any number of ways to involve users in the process. Maybe if so involved, a vastly better solution/arrangement/project could be developed, to the immediate benefit AND satisfaction of users. Worst case, no new ideas come in.

"Anyone has any ideas, I wanna hear 'em. I cant be expected to do ALL the thinking around here, can I?" - Ender Wiggin

>inb4 leddit spacing
As for the rest, I'll leave all kidding/shitposting aside. Additionally, I'll be phrasing this as though its a plan to be implemented, so pardon any pretense.

The first step is updating the site code, specifically to allow for staff members who can't make drastic changes to the site. I appreciate the reticence in bringing on new/unvetted staff, given that the current code gives everyone admin privileges.

The second step is bringing on more staff. Ideally, a few solid autists would serve, or a bunch of minimal/moderate ones. In either case, the former policy of 24-hour monitoring needs to be reinstated. I don't mean constant lurking, checking the overboard every 15-30 minutes would suffice. This isn't (just) about CP/spam deletion, it's also about availability and receptivity to users. I would have it that anyone can post to the site/aforementioned thread and get an immediate response.
>keep in mind, the staff works for free, you can't ask people that have actual lives and responsibilities to drop all that shit to police the Equus smegma index.
To the contrary, I spent several years maintaining the above-mentioned patrol, and maintained an efficacy that often rivalled the remainder of staff combined; and, I did it while running my own business AND subcontracting (60 hour weeks). I don't expect that much autism from any one person however (it would be nice though), so I would involve several autists to split the burden with existing staff. The main issue would then be vetting, and this TOO should be done on site, in the aforementioned thread.

I can't speak to the current staff or their functionality (with exception), but when I left there were a few individuals who neither monitored nor interacted with the site ever. I trust I needn't emphasize what I - as a business owner - would do with an employee that wasnt doing a/their job.
>but they do it for free!
Indeed, its a literal service/charity position, and as Elway put it:
>Being staff here is literally the most thankless job anyone could possibly have.
[cont.]

The next step - and while I am often very critical of the aforementioned, please understand that I am being quite honest and non-critical when I say the following - is to relieve Pupper of the pressure of leadership, and appoint someone in his stead.
The reason for this is - and I appreciate if my position is NOT appreciated - is that Pupper is not a leader; no disrespect intended. He ISN'T a bad guy by any stretch, but being an ACTIVE leader puts alot of stress on him, and he simply isn't conditioned for it. He's a brilliant coder, and should be allowed to do what he's good at without worrying about being the final say on anything/everything. As for leadership, I would nominate Elway; I have a laundry list of why Lotus should (ahem) remain as Admin, not that he HASN'T done his due diligence on/for the site (and ponerpics), but Elway is the MOST suitable candidate IMO and I feel his candor in and out of the Glimglam threads speaks to this. This assumes of course that he wants the responsibility, which I'm not confident of.

That's where I would start, and what the next steps are would depend on the outcome/progress of the previous steps.

Shitposting re-engaged
>>6985
>I'd be quite surprised if anyone could. Your actions have been making progressively less sense for some time now
Quite the compliment, thank you. In strategy, predictability is a negative stat.

>>6986
That is a much better presentation for a much more reasonable and civil argument compared to the autistic screeching that came before this post. Why didn't we just do this from the start?

Now, i see no problems with your post and you made some sensible points i can agree are acceptable ideas that might contribute to the good of the site in general.
I hope what follows now is an actual good and productive talk between all parties involved.

>>6989
>Why
Because I spent years - years - being ignored, sidelined, relegated, et al., and left to do "as I was told" even when it went against any good sense or feasible progress, with these very same arguments (theyve refined a bit, but minimally), and my attitude reflects the reception that was given. I will never claim to NOT be an asshole, nor do I contest that my temperament is not suitable for the staff I envision. But thats why I left and became Batman

>>6990
>me, me, me
I see.

>>6991
Oh, theres plenty more to be said, but since you asked me, and since the first step in progress is admitting one's mistakes, its appropriate that I do so.
Hold your breath and see how many follow suit.

>>6990
>>6992
I just got here, i was drawing a filly kiss for you, fag

>>6993
Present company included

>>6993
Got a higher res version of the kissu filly?

>>6988
I don't care to strategize, because this isn't a war and I don't care.

>>6990
>>6982
We know why. It's because you want the ability to do with the site and its users whatever you want with no accountability or restraint.

When other staff members didn't do whatever it was exactly you wanted some years ago you quit the staff discord while still using your moderator account to perform actions on the site, so you could perform moderator actions while not having to discuss those actions with persons you "didn't respect" on the staff discord server. So you thought you could do away with all supervision by strong-arming Atlas into making you an Admin on the site. Atlas has a sanguine personality, and while warm and fun is and was a people-pleaser and weak willed, so he accepted and made you an admin. I didn't just accept the situation and demanded a veto-power on banning decisions during the negotiations for hashing out the new power structure. I believe that it is because of that that you generally assume that I'm always conspiring against you (or something. I don't really care). Pupperwoff and Equus did not like you making an edit on a user's post. You can't handle anyone telling you "no" or "don't do this" so you continuously argued against him and developed a grudge against him and started regularly insulting him any time he typed anything in the staff server.

One day after an argument Pupperwoff stripped you of “admin” title, and you were such an asshole that not a single person cared to object. Not one single actual power was stripped from you, mind you, just a few words typed by Pupper. I remember talking to you in DM after that trying to negotiate settlement between you and Pupper so we could return to some kind of normalcy in staff. You insisted that the only role you would accept is one that would give you the power to do most anything you want, without any actual oversite by Pupper or anyone. Obviously that wasn't acceptable, because staff need to uphold a standard of behavior and you wouldn't accept any but your own. Pupper wanted you to give more description when drawing attention to questionable posts, I wanted you to behave professionally when posting with mod caps, and everyone, especially Elway, wanted you to stop being belligerent to everyone on staff. But you couldn’t handle even that much change to your behavior. It was all too much giving into others, and not enough getting your way.

And then one day I noticed you were not in any discord server related to the community, and we assumed you quit without telling us, presumably so Pupper couldn't fire you for abusing your power in deleting a certain post. I assumed that was the end of that and you had quit the community. What actually happened is that you realized that you had alienated everyone on staff and decided instead that you could take your case to the users and rile them up to do your bidding, and bully the remainder of staff into doing things. We all assumed you’d get bored after you realized that the users are not your personal army and will not act as such. Instead, we’ve been here over a year. I have, on several occasions, collected screenshots and started writing several-page long rebuttals to your regular tired. But every time, I have realized that I don’t care enough to put in that much effort into arguing with you.

I personally very strongly believe that you have a diagnosable mental illness that is causing you to behave like this, most likely a permutation of schizophrenia. I have known you for years, and decently well. You were not like this back in 2018. I believe your mental health took a very sharp decline two years ago. I think that is why you do what you do in the way you do it. It’s saddening.

>>6995
Drew it on a small canvas, sorry

>>6996
This is what passes as 'not worthy of response'?
>It's because you want the ability to do with the site and its users whatever you want with no accountability or restraint
Nope. Next!
>you quit the staff discord while still using your moderator account to perform actions on the site
I made a full detail of what I was doing to Atlas, who was still site owner at the time. Next!
>strong-arming Atlas into making you an Admin on the site.
Atlas wanted out, I made it happen. There was no strong-arming, and aside from (you), everyone agreed. Next!
>Atlas has a sanguine personality, and while warm and fun is and was a people-pleaser and weak willed, so he accepted and made you an admin
I hear Atlas is back around. Funny, I would think he would be capable of making such an assertion, assuming there's validity. Next!
>I believe that it is because of that that you generally assume that I'm always conspiring against you
You and I both know that's not true. I dont assume you're 'always' conspiring against me, and I'll credit you have had no need to conspire against me for quite some time. But come now Lotus, be honest, if for once. Next!
>Pupperwoff and Equus did not like you making an edit on a user's post
And yet, they gave you a pass, even though you did far worse. Funny. Next!
>you can't handle anyone telling you "no" or "don't do this" so you continuously argued against him and developed a grudge against him and started regularly insulting him any time he typed anything in the staff server
Par for the course, wrong again.
What I WON'T do is agree with someone when they demand I do so especially when their 'grounds' are >muh feelings, and demands of compliance BECAUSE of feelings are a fast track to be told to get fucked.
And yes, I shitpost when individuals want to demand their way and refuse to discuss the matter. Especially when certain admins are abusing users outside THEIR scope and are being given a pass for loose reasons. Funny that you mention Atlas' sanguininity, since your entire position is based off of it. Next!
>One day after an argument Pupperwoff stripped you of “admin” title
>One day
You mean when Atlas reached out to staff, having gotten robbed, and wanted to reconnect? You mean the time YOU AND I spoke verbally to Atlas, confirmed his identity through personal information, and yet Pupper wanted nothing to do with him? You mean the time that I pulled ALL of staff into a discord room to forcibly vet him, since there was such inconceivable resistance to admitting it was Atlas? Cuz Pupper couldnt trust someone else's (me) due diligence, and you were strangely silent about 'yeah, its really Atlas'? Next!
>you were such an asshole that not a single person cared to object
*shrugs*
Haters gonna hate, but you're not wrong. I concede THAT point.
>Not one single actual power was stripped from you, mind you, just a few words typed by Pupper
Except for responsibility, not surprising thats what you overlooked. An admin is an executive position, with likewise responsibilities. You might know that if (you) had any authority as a leader. Next!
>You insisted that the only role you would accept is one that would give you the power to do most anything you want
False framing, but I'll grant you a pass on this one. The issue is/was, Pupper was intended to focus on programming/coding, leaving Administration to you, Elway, and me.
Instead, Pupper decided to demand his way on every decision. This was not the arrangement that was brokered, nor what I agreed to, and yes; if that is what Pupper intended - to dictate every time he had feelings/thoughts AND demand everyone AGREE with him - I wanted no part of it. Next!
>because staff need to uphold a standard of behavior and you wouldn't accept any but your own
Inactivity and lying to users (neglecting to amend the policy, et al) doesnt strike me as a suitable 'standard of behavior', so yes I refused.
>Pupper wanted you to give more description when drawing attention to questionable posts,
You're getting ahead of yourself. Pupper and I FIRST got off on the wrong foot when you were abusing users (more than once) and I confronted you on it (more than once). Atlas was unreachable, and Pupper bought your self-serving explanation without any discussion. It wasnt until there was - legitimate - bad blood that he attempted to take me to task about questionable posts and my behavior toward Nigel, and yes, by that point I wasnt hearing about how 'what I did was bad' but somehow 'what you did is of no concern'.
>I wanted you to behave professionally when posting with mod caps
>professionalism
Its a shame the users can't appreciate the hilarity of that statement, nor can I summarize it concisely. Still, thanks for the lols, never change Lotus.
>and everyone, especially Elway, wanted you to stop being belligerent to everyone on staff
After over a year of monitoring the site, bringing up posts/threads and no one ever knowing what I was talking about, because monitoring the site was evidently not anyone's priority, yes. When people arent doing their job, the correct course is discipline.
>And then one day I noticed you were not in any discord server related to the community
Did I need permission to take a step back and reassess? Are you that much of a control freak that I need to ask permission?
>presumably so Pupper couldn't fire you for abusing your power in deleting a certain post
How many posts did (you) delete, exactly? Wasnt deleting Nigel's off-topic posts YOUR suggestion? Oh, yeah, it was. Huh.
>I assumed that was the end of that and you had quit the community
I trust you know the adage about when you assume?
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>>6996
>What actually happened is that you realized that you had alienated everyone on staff and decided instead that you could take your case to the users and rile them up to do your bidding, and bully the remainder of staff into doing things
Bully, yes. Personal army, no.
>I have, on several occasions, collected screenshots and started writing several-page long rebuttals to your regular tired. But every time, I have realized that I don’t care enough to put in that much effort into arguing with you
Oh dear, Im gonna have to journal about how upsetting your disproval is.
And lastly.
>I personally very strongly believe that you have a diagnosable mental illness that is causing you to behave like this, most likely a permutation of schizophrenia. I have known you for years, and decently well. You were not like this back in 2018. I believe your mental health took a very sharp decline two years ago. I think that is why you do what you do in the way you do it. It’s saddening.
Oh you do, do you? Care to present your credentials,... doctor? How many times have you met with the 'patient', and what diagnostic criteria did you employ?
Or is it that you have a vested interest, and a (ahem) more than personal inclination to asseet your theories to malign your opponent. I credit, in certain context it makes sense; but this is not such a venue, and you dont have the luxury you... usually enjoy.
So, you're entitled to your beliefs, it has no bearing on me.