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Bump Limits
Anonymous
No.5974
5981 5987
Has anyone else had the feeling like the bump limits on this site are too high? They're much higher than those of other sites like /pol/ and /mlp/. On /mlpol/ threads stay up for years at a time, and I feel like it's broken the spirit of our old "no generals" policy. Maybe it would be healthier for discussion to have lower bump limits and simply have Anons make new threads when old ones hit their limit, to prevent stagnation.
I think they've been extended twice before since the start of this site on request by some Anons who were in certain long-standing threads, but i feel like that might have been detrimental in the long term.
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Anonymous
No.6207
6208
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>>5996
I understand the sentiment, however, the solution, I don't think, is to impose technological restrictions to achieve these ends, those ends being more satisfyingly achieved alongside a bit more of a gracious disposition when it comes to posting new threads that have been at a minimum competently constructed. Most of the time when I start new threads I take a viewpoint agnostic approach and say little, which usually avoids flak, and then for the first post after OP I can kick it off with what I think about the issue at hand to start the discussion. However, I will say that posting a half-baked idea and looking for feedback can result in petty namecalling that at best gets us nowhere, and more often than not DOSes threads, and likewise and more importantly the minds of otherwise well-to-do poners from actually thinking about what's being proposed or asked about, how good or bad of an idea it is notwithstanding, and I see it (at least the current frequency of the utterance of "faggot," among other insults) as a relic of the early days of 4chan that I'd rather leave behind, see pic related for exhibit A. Agree with someponer or don't, just please be cool and polite about it.
Anonymous
No.6208
6209
>>6207
I wouldn't really call it a "technological restriction", tbh. /mlpol/ has very, very high bump limits, even for an altchan. We didn't always have bump limits this high, and it's questionable if our site's quality really improved at all after we raised it again and again.
Anonymous
No.6209
6210
>>6208
>I wouldn't really call it a "technological restriction", tbh. /mlpol/ has very, very high bump limits, even for an altchan.
Whatever it may be, I would still maintain that the perceived problem is something that could more easily and robustly be solved by a paradigmatic and cultural shift. Some threads indeed have gone well into hundreds of posts, not being of a general nature, and yet more have been bumped off the catalog before they've reached a single hundred.

The perceived problem we appear to be attempting to solve here is that there are too many posts in general-type threads, without those posts being distributed to other threads, thereby providing an opportunity to raise the overall quality of the site. If I am correct in that assumption, a good solution might be for poners to create more threads instead of post in the threads reaching the bump limit. We really only seem to differ on how to go about encouraging that type of behavior; would it be too much of a stretch to claim that, should more poners create more threads more quickly on their own, perceived stagnation of threads and topics might be avoided, and indeed that could end up facilitating discussion more than a hard cap could provide?
Put another way, if I have the option of having 16 gigs of RAM, as opposed to 8, but I usually didn't go anywhere near filling 8 gigs anyway, myself I would still choose to have 16 gigs. Just because sometimes I could stand to use it, if absolutely necessary, since I would rather do what I needed to on one computer, rather than starting up another to finish up the job.
Anonymous
No.6210
6212 6214
>>6209
I think extending the bump limits to this point has been a failed experiment. Increasing the bump limits hasn't done anything but create scenarios where Anons reply to OP's posted years ago. It was better when the bump limits were smaller.
Anonymous
No.6212
6213
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>>6210
>I think extending the bump limits to this point has been a failed experiment.
Absurd.
>Increasing the bump limits hasn't done anything but create scenarios where Anons reply to OP's posted years ago.
So what? If an anon has something to add, so be it. A 2 years old post doesn't change the written ideas.
If the thread is still in the catalog, to answer to it is pretty valid.
On the other hand, if a thread is still in the catalog after 2 years, it is because of a lack of new ones.
Anonymous
No.6213
6215
>>6212
What did we gain from extending the bump limits this far?
Anonymous
No.6214
>>6210
Fair enough. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
Anonymous
No.6215
6216
>>6213
>What did we gain
What did we lost?
Anonymous
No.6216
6218
>>6215
We lost the feeling of having normal sized threads on our board.
What was the benefit though? Why did we do it in the first place.
Anonymous
No.6218
6219 6456
>>6216
>We lost the feeling
>feeling
It's an opinion founded on a subjective wimp.
Anonymous
No.6219
>>6218
Do you not notice the difference?
Anonymous
No.6221
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Anonymous
No.6400
6402 6406
I think the absurdly long bump limits make it pretty easy to derail threads. Anons flame at eachother over something that was said weeks ago and continue to flame over it for months. If we had reasonable bump limits conversations would get a fresh start every now and then.
Anonymous
No.6402
6458
>>6400
Naaaah. It's fine like it is.
Anonymous
No.6406
6407
>>6400
You'd be surprised how long some will stay mad at you for across multiple threads for multiple years, but bump limits won't change that.
People would just move on to the latest locations of the same discussions more often. And people with drawings of OCs pinned to dart boards would still play darts to take a break from the pool table I gifted then after living in their heads rent-free for so long.
Anonymous
No.6407
6409 6410
>>6406
I think it could be better to go back to smaller bump limits, though. I don't like this 1000+ post status quo. I feel a bit inclined to help reverse it because I feel partially responsible for causing it; requesting that my favorite threads just be extended because I was too lazy to make new ones. I've slowly come to realize that that may have been to the detriment of site quality.

I think we could at least reduce it. Maybe cap it at 500. That would still be more than either /pol/ or /mlp/.
Anonymous
No.6409
6457
>>6407
I think it could be better to keep the same bump limits, though. I like this 600/700+ post status quo. I feel a bit inclined to help keep it because I feel partially responsible for conserve it; requesting that my favorite threads just be kept because I was too concerned not to make duplicated new ones. I've slowly come to realize that that may have been to the improvement of site quality.
Anonymous
No.6410
6411
>>6407
I think we just keep them as they are. That would still be more like /mlpol/ style.
Anonymous
No.6411
6412
>>6410
We had normal bump limits for at least 2 and a half years, maybe three. The long bump limits are a new thing.
Also, idk if that's exactly what I want to define us as a community.
Anonymous
No.6412
6413
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>>6411
>that's exactly what I want to define us as a community.
Aryanne ring a bell?
Anonymous
No.6413
>>6412
Aryanne is a meme and mascot who predates the board, but certainly defines our community. I was referring to meta features though.
Anonymous
No.6456
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>>5989
Yeah I bet you think about sucking balls all the time, don't you tranny faggot. I bet you'd even suck Nigel's balls, for all the bitching you do at him.

>>6218
I think this is really getting to the rub of the matter. You act like you don't have feelings because you think that if you had to face them you'd probably have shot yourself in the head quite a while ago. So you feel like you've got to try and fuck with other people so you can distract yourself. I fucking hate your guts (and rightfully so) but I assume it wouldn't exactly be an honorable move to kick someone that's likely to say something like "the truth hurts more than anything else" or brags about living "rent free" like being a piece of shit is some kind of accomplishment. I mean your life is already over, and since I'm simply better than you I'll try to help anyone, even a wretch like you, whenever I can. All you really need to learn to do is to ask politely for it, the help. Otherwise you're going to keep pushing people away and wondering why they think you're such a piece of trash (I mean I know you know already but it's clearly because you are). You can be fucking with other people's feelings, sure, but that's nothing to be bragging about. I want to call you all sorts of adhoms but for some reason I feel like that's something you actually want, to be validated that you're some kind of cumstained faggot, and it's not as if you're not, it's just that I feel as though you've got some perverted need to show yourself that nobody's righteous so that you don't have to act with righteousness yourself. So unfortunately I can't accommodate that for you, any more than you've already scratched out of me, but it would behoove you to know that none of what you're doing is in any way something to take pride in. The best you can really do is to drag other people; and in any case it doesn't really matter whether or not they win, you've already lost because you've gotten your balls cut off and are an unrepentant nigger about it. Like I've been saying, you need to either man the fuck up or paint the walls with your brains already like you've been planning on doing. And in case you had any questions about it, you are most definitely a burden to other people. You might be able to bully these other poor bastards and hangers-on, but they would do well to stop enabling people like you, and if there is a masculine part to your brain still I think deep down you know that already. But if the hormones have taken over completely then you're going to disregard what I'm saying precisely because it touches a nerve. This really isn't surprising to people that still have their nuts, aka those that haven't already gotten themselves damned. I could go on, but I think if you haven't gotten the idea already, then you're already set on sucking some buckshot out of a boomstick, and there's really nothing to do. Anyway, get fucked in the ass tranny faggot. I'm sure you'll gladly oblige.
Anonymous
No.6457
>>6409
>requesting that my favorite threads just be kept
Couldn't you just make new threads with the same topic?
We're not a very fast board. Even if the bump limit were just 300 it would still take weeks for some of our more active threads to hit bump limit, let alone slide. Making a new thread every month for a topic you care about isn't that much to ask imo.
Anonymous
No.6458
6459
>>6402
Is it though? I woudn't say posting quality has really improved at all since we made the bump limits this long.
Anonymous
No.6459
6460
>>6458
>Is it though?
Yes it is.
Anonymous
No.6460
6461
>>6459
I think I liked it better before.
Anonymous
No.6461
6462
>>6460
I think I like how it is now,
Anonymous
No.6462
6463
>>6461
Why though?
Actually curious how the extended bumps contribute to your experence.
Anonymous
No.6463
6464
>>6462
Trust me. It's fine.
Anonymous
No.6464
6470
>>6463
Okay, but what's good about it?
Anonymous
No.6470
>>6464
For one, they prevent the few pseudo-enerals we do have from having to post dozens of 'old bread past bump, new edition', which also avoids wanton 'same images from last thread' posts.
Anonymous
No.7221
7225
So, are we ever going to do anything about the fact that threads on /vx/ don't slide?
Bump limits exist for a reason, and extending them I feel has contributed to a detrimental departure from the flow of fresh ideas that make chan-like boards attractive in the first place. 300 would be enough, 500 would be a lot. We're a slow board; we shouldn't need absurdly high bump limits.
Lotus
## Admin
No.7225
7227 7229
>>7221
Bump limit set to 2,147,483,647
Anonymous
No.7227
7228 7229
>>7225
Whats the catalog page limit set to?
>2 billion bumps of flat earth nonsense
Gee, surely that wont be exploited ever
Lotus
## Admin
No.7228
7230
>>7227
100.
Anonymous
No.7229
>>7225
Can we please actually fix this?
>>7227
It's not about exploitation. It's about board quality.
Anonymous
No.7230
7231 7232 7238 7245 7246
>>7228
Clearly to satisfy the overwhelming cries of "/vx/ is too smol"

Let this be a lesson to any remaining oldfags. All that remains of Mlpol is a skinsuit, worn by staff to exercise tjeir degenerate fantasies.
Anonymous
No.7231
7232 7245
The-Silence-of-the-Lambs-4.jpg
>>7230
Forgot pic
Anonymous
No.7232
7239
>>7230
Dude, can you stick to the topic? This is counterproductive.
>>7231
A serious response would be appreciated.
Anonymous
No.7235
7236 7240
Pooper said the archive for this board didn't worked properly, so they had to come up with a way to preserve old threads for the time being.
Anonymous
No.7236
7237
>>7235
>for the time being
Until when?
Anonymous
No.7237
>>7236
He can probably fix it in a couple days at most.
Meant /vx/ Btw
Anonymous
No.7238
bait.png
>>7230
>All that remains of Mlpol is a skinsuit, worn by staff to exercise tjeir degenerate fantasies.
Anonymous
No.7239
7246
kill yourself faggot.mp3
>>7232
>A serious response would be appreciated.
KYS
Pupper
## Admin
No.7240
7241 7246
>>7235
The reason historically /vx/ didn't have an Archive was because when the site was using vichan/NPFChan there was no Archive, and threads that slided off the catalog were gone and lost forever. So the high bump limit and catalog size was kept to keep the board canon to its older self when we moved to new codebase.
Anonymous
No.7241
7242
>>7240
>to keep the board canon to its older self
So...you mean it's actually a technical issue, right?
Pupper
## Admin
No.7242
7246
>>7241
There is no techical limitation that prevents us from changing the bump limit, catalog size etc. in the board config. But many RP treads on /vx/ enjoys and benefits from a high bump limit and changing it would alter the style of the board that it have had since its creation.
John Elway
## Moderator
No.7245
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>>7231
>>7230
*wears your skin*
Anonymous
No.7246
7247
>>7230
Okay, retard.
>>7239
No u.
>>7240
I know that, but that was also kind of a long time ago. Are there any plans to fix it?
>>7242
It wouldn't be a major issue if the threads at the bottom of the catalog slide.
>See, I asked for this back in the day, and I am now recanting that request. Truth is it doesn't actually help roleplay go more smoothly.
That decision was also made when 80-90% of the posts on /mlpol/ were in roleplay threads on /vx/. It's not like that anymore, and I don't think it would be that much trouble to ask roleplayers to make new threads every 500 posts instead of every 1000-2000 posts. I've roleplayed on /vx/ long enough to know that it takes no mental effort to transfer roleplay from one old thread to a fresh one.
>would alter the style of the board that it have had since its creation
I really don't think it would significantly change, but that's just my opinion.
Anonymous
No.7247
>>7246
Fucked up the greentext on that, but whatever