/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>83549
I worship a horse deity.

Yes

>>83550
I suppose with this being mlpol a lot of people do

Father, once - it seemed so long ago now - I had such big dreams, so much anticipation for the future. Now no shimmering horizon beckons me; my days are lacklustre. I see so little of lasting value in the daily round. Where is your plan for my life, Father?

You have told us that without vision, we men perish. So Father in heaven, knowing that I can ask in confidence for what is your expressed will to give me, I ask you to deposit in my mind and heart the particular dream, the special vision you have for my life.

Along with the dream, will you give me whatever graces, patience and stamina it takesto see the dream through to fruition? I sense that this may involve adventures I have not bargained for. But I want to trust you enough to follow, even if you lead along new paths.I admit to liking some of my ruts, but I know that havit patterns that seem like cosy nests from inside, from your vantage point may be prison cells. Lord, if you to break down any prisons of mine before I can see the starsand catch the vision, then Lord, begin the process now.

In joyous expectation. Amen

>>83549
I went through a cringeworthy fedora tipping atheist phase.
I'm still not religious, but I consider myself a cultural Christian (Orthodox, as my grandfather was a Bulgarian) and now understand the importance of the Christian faith to muh heritage.

It is natural to question and doubt the religion of one's ancestors. However, honest and thorough evaluation will always lead one back closer to God. One must always beware of hedonists, pseudo-intellectuals and false prophets.

>>83583
this

I was a mega fedora atheist, then I became less of a faggot. The passed year i have liked the idea of going to church, at least to sing hymns, I am still very skeptical and always have to see to believe. But I know the majority of Christians are right. The bible has stories and morals that when understood through other analogues and explanations are true.

You might laugh at the following. The last week I watched the Conjuring 1, 2 and Anabelle. Horror movies involving daemons and excorsisms. I felt very warmed to the portrayal of the Christian families and the will to help defeat evil. Then I asked my catholic friend, who I've argued with before, about the movies and had the same opinion. He claims those stories are true and I am aware the Warrens helped the catholic church with those cases.

Now I want to go to church. I think it all makes sense once You get rid of the silly notion of "invisible man in the sky." I recommend reading the Silmarillion as I'm in the process.

I think I found god /mlpol/, anything to start me off? My family is Presbyterian.

>>83587
The fact thhat you found inspiration in seeing a family come together isn't something to scoff at even though in bit of media.

I'd recommend you start off by attending sunday morning services, see and feel it for yourself. You don't need to beat yourself over the head with the bible and memorise every passage, most churches nowadays also offer meetups and discussion groups to help you if you have any questions.

>>83587
>I think it all makes sense once You get rid of the silly notion of "invisible man in the sky."
Could you elaborate further? Anyway, like >>83590 said, just go to church and don't forget to dress decently

>>83591
That was in reference to childish fedorathists arguments e.g. "c'mon man don't tell me you believe there's just some big man in the sky that watches you masturbate." Or something along those lines, overly simplified and pretentious.

>>83549
I'm overall not really religious person.
Parents aren't that religious either, so while we often went to church while I was kid, it wasn't really important part of our lives, and well not many kids (me included) like to just stand in place for hour and listen to some guy talking about weird things.
And well, in any big institution there is a lot of filth, so while Polish christianity is more conservative then in most of western countries we have our own problems and a lot of abnormailities in the other ways: old people being fanaticall fuckfaggots, some priests embezzling money and meddling with politics, shit like that. When you hear some black dressed guy in TV, stigmatizing some girl because she was raped or some other shit it leaves bad taste in your mouth. There aren't a lot of that but when fashion for ateism came it was quite popular theme in media.

I had a little period of agnosticizm, full ateism never really sounded reasonable for me, I don't really think that explaining something like belief using science and logic is reasonable thing, because it in it's nature isn't illogical.


Now I don't care about religion anymore. I see it as important part of nation, and believe that it should be taught to kids because when country is homogeneous religiously it's one less thing that can create conflicts.

But me personally?

I never really was interested in some kind of "heaven". I'm not interested in living in some kind of utopia for eternity. We as humans can't be always happy, being sad is part of being human, so either when we die we stop being "human" and became something else, or well heaven is different thing. If there is nothing after death then whatever, if there is something that's ok too. What's the point of concentrating on it if we can't really comprehend it with our minds?
There are thousands of different religion and it's not like one of them can prove that it's better than others, thinking that one specific religion is better just because it's mine is kinda arrogant.
It would be pretty nice if after death we get our own part of universe that we can shape as we want, going to Equestria would be nice too.
But in reality I don't believe in any specific thing or lack of said thing, when thinking about religion I can't really get to any conclusion, so I don't bother about it.

>>83549
I am very devout in the practice of my faith but haven't attended official services much recently.

>>84106
I can understand that, whenever my minister brings up Israel and he does a lot I have to hold back my disgust.

Christ's teachings and practices were heresy to the kikes hence why they gave him up to the Romans and the idiot rants and raves about how perfect they and their filthy state is

I just try to learn about a lot of religions so I can be respectful to everyone.
I do worship Bastet occasionally but I don't plan on devoting all of myself to just one belief.

>>83583
>>83570
these

martin luther was right about the church tbh, just read the bible and take time out for prayer on sundays on your own

>>84187
I like this but with some community and traditions.

>>84192
have holiday traditions with close family and community in your neighborhood

>>83549
I don't know whether I follow what most people call faith or not.
After a tumultuous relationship with the local church and my own family when I was young, followed by years of research into holy texts and other such things, there are only a few ideas I'm willing to state with certainty:

>1. There is a higher power of some kind, and most people in the West call this power God.
>2. Death is not necessarily the end of the self.
>3. There are many people who claim to know what God wants, or how to get into a better place after death.

Going to church is always a massive culture shock for me because of the third bullet above. I pray, and I observe some of the traditions I was raised with, but I cannot in good faith bring myself to commit fully to the tenets of any of the churches I've visited - there's always something slightly off in the rules, or it feels like the people there are claiming to know too much. Then factor in the chon/norp divide, and it's just too much to bridge the gap community-wise.
The concept of an infinity alone terrifies me to no end. I hope with all my heart that who or whatever this God is, that he cares for us mortals and wouldn't let us suffer for nothing. I guess we'll finally meet face-to-face when I die, so I will do my best to live a virtuous life until then.

>>84217

#2

Some of these warnings sound very recent and relevant

>Base men who have gained a certain amount of learning will be considered sages without having the virtues to use their widsom
>Fetuses will be killed in the wombs of their mothers
>People will choose to believe false ideas over truth
>No one will trust anyone else
>Young girls will trade in their virginity
>there will be many beggars and unemployed
>people will use vulgar language
>Men will devot themselves to earning money, the richest will hold power
>the state leaders will no longer protect their people but steal their wealth through taxes

>>83549
I'm religiously not religious

>>84240
There's the irony, that a text from thousands of years ago sounds modern - did a few monks back in the day truly predict the future so well, or have things just been that bad this whole time? Did they mean to describe the start of the industrial age? right now? Some other time?
>People suffering from hunger and fear will take refuge in underground shelters.
I like to imagine this line is metaphorical, referring to hikkis and neets and people with persecuted opinions like on this website. "Hunger [for purpose]" feels more fitting when you factor in that "readily available food" bit. But the rest is incredibly spot-on.

I only have a very basic understanding of the actual text since I can't read sanskrit to save my life, but the Hindus at the temple I visited said the world entered Kali Yuga (the age of strife/demons) sometime around 3000 BC, and because we're in the worst part of the cycle, life is just destined to be shit. Rich, poor, East, West, man, woman, doesn't matter, the fates have it in for everyone. When the cycle ends, there's supposed to be huge amounts of suffering and death, maybe not apocalypse-tier but pretty close. Then that's followed by a new golden age, since the wheel has come full circle to Satya Yuga.
Cycles everywhere, it seems.

>>84273

i think its just proof that human nature does not change regardless of the time, religion or political system. and that people 2000 years ago were not mentally retarded and saw this long coming (again). This is why you cant set up political system long term that work against human nature. Unless you are Skynet.

>>83550
Wait we get iron guard flag now?

NOICE

>>84351
No wait we don't, how do we get it?

>>84352
Ask the mods in /qa/, and you should get your desired flag in a day or two.

>anime horsefucker and nazi forum
>more devout Christians than most churches.
Kali Yuga feels tbh.

>>84459
Strange times

>>83549
I am not sure if I would call myself agnostic. Certain events that happened throughout my life made me lose my previously Catholic faith. I came to the personal conclusion that if there is a God, he's a non-interventionist creator. He's not concerned with us any more than he is with everything else he created, and I don't believe he expects us to "pay tribute" (I use those words loosely for the lack of a better expression) to him in way of prayer or anything of the sort.

I still, however, am a somewhat spiritual person and believe there are many forces out there that do influence our life and that we need to respect, just not in a direct way like most religions believe. An example of that would be the concept of karma, though not necessarily in the exact way it is commonly understood by Buddhism.

Sunday and the thread is still up, religious discussion continues.

in your opinion what do think is causing the loss of faith in people today?, nonbelief in this day and age is higher than at any point in history

>>84559
Oh, people still believe as fervently as ever. It's just that now they put their stock in Muh Science, whereas before it was Muh Jesus. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard one of my cousins ramble on about how technology will magically solve all of humanity's problems, no reexamination of the economics or philosophy surrounding it required, I'd fucking eat my own foot.
As for why the Euphorics are proselytizing so many, I think a great deal of it comes from entertainment and schooling. It's cool to denounce Christianity right now, so the lemmings are choosing lives of rampant hedonism with their newfound freedom from the ebul Jesus cultists of the 90s. A bunch of teenagers-at-heart mindlessly rebelling, it's as simple as that.

>>84561
I wish I had something to add, but he's nailed it.

>>84561
>rampant hedonism
>newfound freedom from a literal cult
>mindless rebellion
You sure are a good goy. Either that or a shill.

Trust in the Lord with all your hewry and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him and he will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3:5-6

>>84572
>hewry
Damn it, meant to be heart

>>84568
>a shill
Wew. I'm not much of a Christian, even though I'd like to keep the faith. Care to offer any other reason why people are throwing babies out with the bathwater?

I don't go to a church, and I also don't have any problem with people who do.

It should be emphasized that Capitalism is a religion. Thus any time a person visits a bank, an ATM, or a POS terminal one is worshiping at the altar of Capitalism.

(It's easy to know what the active religion in a culture is: just observe the thing that motivates most of the culture's activity. A culture *always* has an active religion, and it's as impossible to have a culture without a religion as it is to have a person without a personality. The active religion in a culture is *never* seen as optional, and is as necessary - and sometimes as invisible - as water is to fish. The West has hidden the religious nature of Capitalism by redefining the word "religion" to mean "anything other than Capitalism." Thus America, far from having a separation of Church and State, is the ultimate in violent theocracy. Capitalism is a religion.)

>>89225
Suggesting anarchy isn't an economic system is like claiming zero isn't a number. (It's possible I'm misunderstanding you.)

Also, since I was apparently unclear earlier, it's not that every economic system is a religion. "Religion" is the dominating, motivating force in a culture. That might be an economic system, it might be what today in the West would be called a religion. We in the West have been deceived into believing the lust for wealth is the meaning of life, so it can be hard for those ruled by Zionist bankers to even conceive of lives motivated by other principles.

It's important to recognize that the worshipers of debt-money have gone to great lengths to hide their religion, by changing words (leading to the confusion between "economic system" and "religion") and doing pretty much everything possible to conceal how theirs is still the age-old worship of Mammon.

Matthew 6:24 is as relevant now as it was when it was written.

>>89225
Bad?

>>89236
>>89248
I think you could make the message without associating it to religion. Religion relates to supernatural or transcendental. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

I think saying we worship money is passable at a stretch. But not all the way to religion.

It is my observation that wealth makes people so self-sufficient that interconnections in society break down. So religious connections and just plain old community break down.

>>89249
>Religion relates to supernatural or transcendental
No it doesn't. That supposed limitation is part of the concealment of how religion functions in a society. By defining religion as something optional the true nature of how religion works - and thus the true religion in a culture - is hidden. This deception is also accomplished by arbitrarily defining life itself as neither supernatural nor transcendental (!!!). (Referring to an equally-deceived site like Wikipedia is not going to help one think freely.)

Again, this is very simple. The active religion in a culture is the *motivating force*.

In the case of banker-controlled countries (the entire West, and much of the rest of the world as the bankers' global jihad continues) the motivating force is the pursuit of money:

10 Believe religious myth that money will lead to happiness
20 Pursue money
30 Spend money
40 Money doesn't bring happiness - but religious dogma dictates that's because YOU JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY
50 GOTO 1

Compare how much time in the West is spent imagining what having more money would be like, acquiring money, and spending money, compared to how much time is spent on other religions. The difference is of orders of magnitude.

The focus of Western life is the pursuit of the bankers' god of debt-money; all else is secondary. Seen this way the conversion of the population of the West to the religion of their rulers is no different than the the forced conversions of conquered populations throughout history. But because the West's new despots have hidden their ascent to power, so too must their new religion be hidden.

>>89263
No point arguing over semantics. Use words however you want.

>>89264
>No point arguing over semantics. Use words however you want
That would certainly be an anarchist's view of lexicography and discourse!

>>83549
Somewhat. I'm not a good Christian. I don't go to church due to it being a corrupt institution.

>>89263
A better term would be "materialism" which is defined as placing the acquisition of material goods over all else. Socialism is no less materialistic and generally is much more a cult because of its promise of a brighter future, its hero worship, and its indoctrination. Pic related (yes, I know Winston Churchill was a good goy).

I have objections to your idea of what religion is; apparently I'm not a Catholic unless if I farm specifically for the purpose of sending money to the Pope. Also, in a capitalist society one chooses to be materialistic, not the other way around.

>>89266
Then how can you rid it of corruption? I understand your concerns but all reform starts from the bottom up. If you don't want to fund any sort of corruption then, instead of giving money help out with your time or give food/clothes. Otherwise you're just letting your doubts and apathy rule you.

>>89268
I never had good experiences at church growing up, so I stay out of it. Although maybe I should start doing something more. I did donate to a church last year, cause I acted like a nigger a long time ago and decided to mark up a metal pamphlet holder with "666". I regret it, cause that is a nigger move. However, maybe I should start donating, because fucking mosques are popping up all over the fucking town.

>>89269
People who drift away from religion wind up believing anything to validate their existence. Why do you think (((they))) have been promoting atheism and secularism for decades? Islam runs roughshod over atheism and paganism; only Christianity can stem its tide.

>>89271
I know. I've been trying to go back to Christianity more. I should read my bible more.

Pagan but not of the OMG XSTIANITY SHULD PAY kind.
Worship the land I live in & its history, that includes Christianity. I was brought up in a christian family, my son goes to a christian school & he will be christian unless he chooses otherwise. I think Traditional Christianity has many benefits but modern Christianity is a crutch used by many for absolving themselves of responsibility.
When you guys want to retake Constantinople let me know. Nothing but respect for the orders militant.