I reported it, too. Wtf!? Why is it still up? Is there any other way of reporting that shit more directly?
Reported it as fast I could. I guess it's up for review by the mods or admin and that will take time.
They must be asleep. Is there any way of emailing the admin for stuff like this? I've been looking for a way to contact them, but all I found was an old proton email from way back in 2017.
DMs, if u can>>330772
Without going into individual specifics, discord is the best off-board way to get staff attention, but its not 100%. I dm'd Stix and Pupper (the two I felt most likely to respond). I thought about Elway, but ruled it out non-critically.
Its tricky, because I want to propose a community .onitor system, where of enough anons report a post it gets shadow-deleted. While still exposed to minor aspects of abuse, the posts would be retrievable by staff. Beyond that, it would allow say, 10+ posters who report to get that shit taken down until review.
The problem is this places a greater burden on staff, who quite frankly havent been doing well since their autistic ninja hasnt been cleaning the place thanklessly.
The other solution would be to actually HAVE jannies. Because, staff are not jannies, theyre mods.
Now when I was a jannie, I couldnt delete posts, I could only shadow delete, for review, like I propose above.
Unfortunately, with the writing of the new code, staff roles had (it may have been ammended, idk) been eliminated; technically e eryone has admin access, though specific anons can override and make changes that normal staff cant. And Pupper has the skeleton key, he wrote the shit.
So ancillary to the pseudo-proposal above, I think mlpol needs jannies who are JUST jannies.
>>330776>Stix and Pupper
I misspoke. I dm'd Pupper, was GOING to dm Stix, and compromised my making a post in the tea time discord, which afaik all staff is in.
Another suggestion, probably declined but hey, set up an @staff in the tea time discord.
Awww hell, might as well,....
The issue of staff being on has always been a problem. Its fine (ostensibly) for deleting CP, spam, and thankfully gone KYSfilly, but beyond OBVIOUS rules, but staff is terribly REactive, and entirely not PROactive.
Proactive means things like analyzing the detractor's habits and patterns, and then formulating a strategy to combat.
Reactive means deleting things cuz theyre there.
We need more proactivity.
What if you could select a preset option or custom report reason when reporting posts, and if a post got enough reports for CP it was automatically hidden for 24 hours? Mods could unhide posts and manually flag them as "not porn" and tag trusted posters to be invisibly immune to this post hiding. That way we dont have to worry about jewish mass-report raids hiding the posts of trusted posters.
There could also be an option to report a post for antisemetism except if you actually report a post for antisemitism the report is deleted and the tab is closed and a site full of jew facts about the holohoax is opened in a new tab.
I guess the mods must really not want their site to be around if they're too lazy to delete literal child porn posted here.
Cp Thread is deleted. This one’s on me, I freely admit to dropping the ball. I wasn’t logged in as mod and was focused on updating my own thread, didn’t look at the catalog. In any event, I like the idea of a community mass-reporting system for stuff like this, I will bring it up with pupper and see what can be implemented.
Sorry for dropping the ball on the cp causing it to stay up for way to long.
I will be redesigning the reporting and modding functions in the rewrite/cleanup of the code so I will take all the suggestion here into account and see if there is a good way to implement them. It is hard (impossible) to make a foolproof system so the problem will be to find a good way to prevent abuse while at the same time have it work as we want. But there is lots of room for improvements from how it is now and hopefully once rewrite is complete we as moderators and you as users will have better tools to combat spam and cp.
>>330797>impossible to foolproof
Appreciated. Thank you for addressing the issue.
Appreciated that it was deleted. Worried that it would harm the site and shatter the community (I suspect this is the intention behind that thread).
We need a troll protocol. It will be subjected to abuse, sure, but rather that than CP ruining this digital watering hole. Let us come together and develop a troll protocol!
I think I may have a pretty good idea as to who did it.
U the same Sven anon who wanted to be a mod?
Data mining techniques can be (and likely are) used to detect abnormal patterns in network traffic to try and weed out bad actors.>>330766>>330811
And this is coming from a fandom that frequently browses a site with a “foalcon” tag. Of course, I’m not defending CP in any way, shape, or form, especially given the abuse that many North Korean emigrants must go through, but I’m just saying this seems a little bit hypocritical.
Am not an enjoyer, but pretty sure there's a big difference between an anime drawing and a real child pic, just sayin'
Start moderating that as well, I don't care. But trying to bundle it together with CP, lolicon, or realistic lolicon (All depicting either real children or aproximating human children) is somewhat dishonest. Foalcon isn't that common on this site and when it's posted it isn't unusual someone complains about it. But yeah, maybe we should include foalcon in CP as well to avoid being, in your assessment, hypocritical.
>>330816>big difference between anime underageb& and irl underageb&
Not where the servers are there isnt
>>330819>Protect Act of 2003
You know what? This isn't my fight, I won't argue with some gigaboomer
>>330818>But yeah, maybe we should include foalcon in CP as well to avoid being, in your assessment, hypocritical.
I honestly wouldn't mind that. I already consider foalcon and loli pedophilic and wonder how many others feel the same way. Would anyone even care other than maybe one very specific anon
if it was banned outright?
This is honestly a >>>/qa/
thread, but I agree with OP here.
The response to CP on the mainboard has been pretty slow, and there have been complaints raised before over the last couple years about it. This appears to be in part due to understaffing, and perhaps also in part due to lack of coordination in watch times. There are several "black out times" during the week where the jannies aren't active because they're all at work or asleep.
Have you considered just hiring more staff? This wouldn't be as big of an issue if there were more eyes on the board. The problem has persisted for quite a while, and it's really an urgent one. In addition to legal issues, this kind of stuff staying up long enough for users to see it has potential to drive off current and potential users and content creators who either don't want to see it or don't want to be involved in potential illegal activity, so it should be considered an existential threat to the site and
Yes we will look into getting more staff once the code rewrite/cleanup is complete and we have better moduser functionality.
Not to be a bother, but do you have any plans for when that will be? I've been hearing about this code rewrite for at least two years now.
The first rewrite is already complete and we're not running vichan/NPFChan we had from the start. This time around it is a cleanup of the new code to make it more streamlined and fix some usability issues and missing functions. So it is not a complete rewrite it is more an make it better with functions and speed. But it has been going a bit slow due to IRL stuff and such.
That's understandable, I guess. I just hope this board gets some more active eyes watching it soon.
It doesn't really matter how good the reporting system is if there's no staff online to address them.
Do you think it might be done by the 5th anniversary?
I am currently working on a machine learning project and hold a master’s degree in computer science. Would it be possible for /mlpol/ to hire me to work on the project? Or would working on this site look good on my resume at all?
I never realized how hardwired into the system the staff roster was.
I am contemplating making the code open source once the rewrite/cleanup is completed, but haven't decided yet. We don't have money to hire anyone so any help would have to be on voluntary basis all cost of running the site is paid by people on staff
. But perhaps any ideas you might have for flowcharts/pseudocode on things you can think of could be helpful, but that might be more suited for an separate thread on /qa/ that I will create once I get to the point where polishing of features come about and I will seek input from users.
But any ideas you (or anyone else) have or improvements in user experience are welcome in the >>>/qa/5911 →
thread in the meanwhile.
Does this mean the Anonfilly thread is going away?
So...is this kike trying to pull off a Natsuno here?...
You mean what some wretched faggot posted that started all this? Actual hardcore CP was posted and lingered for, like, five hours while those of us that saw it scrambled to report it to no avail. Hence all the drama, outrage and the discussion about moderation going forward to prevent it from happening again before it tears /mlpol/ apart.
There ya go. Shit sucks.
It appears that the faggot rabbi in the Jewish-crimes thread is dancin' right now
I'm actually suspicious about this. Posting CP to test moderation and/or get a site shut down is a tried and true shill tactic. Glowniggers love it too.
>>330848>Glown*ggers love it too.
So could it have been these guys? >>330812
Hence why its appropriate that a strategy is determined asap
The only strategy I can think of is to add more staff, tbh. That might take a while though.
Shimmy-Sham, and shimmy sham only, sven.
Never trust a fucking commie, behind the repetitive shitty memes lies a mountain of ClubPenguin
Sorry if I came across as divisive with my curt reply.>>330848
This. I have no doubt it was posted to sabotage us. It's just about not giving these faggots a foot in the door to do it again.
>>330854>Sorry if I came across as divisive with my curt reply.
not at all, i just wanted to reinforce attention on the screencap
I concur. I have a few ideas, but aint nobody gonna like em.
Don't respond to him, he's trying to blame the KGB. >>330812
Is the same kike from the Jewish crimes thread.
So did bunkerchan try to raid again?
Okay, I'll give my own input.
Yes, it's regrettable that a post of illegal content was up for five hours before being deleted. But five hours is not even remotely close to long enough for any government agency to think that a website is not doing enough to contain illegal content posted by others. If it were up for three days, then maybe that would be long enough for some agency to think that there is negligence. I very sincerely doubt that any agency anywhere would even investigate the report of illegal content within five hours, let alone think that it was dispositive that the website needed to be shutdown.
Sure, we can hire another member of staff
if the person we have in mind would just reach out. The fact that this length of time is so atypical is testament to how quick staff reaction time generally is. I just happened to be sleeping in on the one rare day that my work was cancelled; if it were a normal Tuesday I would have deleted it myself hours earlier.
Also, this belongs on /qa/, not /mlpol/
>>330859>Yes, it's regrettable that a post of illegal content was up for five hours before being deleted.
When I mentioned that specifically, I didn't mean to imply that it was due to negligence. I'm genuinely sorry if it came across that way. Like I said at the start of the thread, I just assumed everyone was asleep, and being the reclusive retard that I am, I had no avenue other than reporting from the site itself until I just signed up for Dicksword so that I could report such things more efficiently should they pop up again. I love this place and it's the last shred of an increasingly (((shilled))) chan culture. I didn't mean to imply anything about the staff.
Read what is in that thread. There is plenty of evidence against them.>>330858
It could be foreign spies.
>>330859>five hours is fine, we'd be okay if it was 3 days
Not exactly reaffirming. Maybe the law is fine with 3 day old CP, but Im not good with 3 MINTUTE old CP. I want my sword back, idgaf about being on staff, I just wanna kill the illegal posts. I know it aint gonna happen, but srsly, SOMEONE needs to apply themselves.>qa, not mlpol
Get fucked. You could move the thread, are you gonna? Then quit your bitching.
It's just legitimate concern, no one's shitting on staff.
I hope you catched this. >>330845>Also, this belongs on /qa/, not /mlpol/
True, however, despite the fact that the overboard exists, it just isn't as good raising the alarm as the main-board is
That’s probably more of a question of applying site policy equally than anything trying to discredit the site as a whole. I’m not exactly an expert, but I think the people who are after us would probably do similar things to what happened, if not even worse.
There's too many people to reply to on this, but I do not
believe this is the result of actors trying to get the website shutdown. The main reason I believe this is that it is a regular, samey-looking post that is only posted once, or at most, once on each board. I believe that if it were an attack, it would be mass spammed, there would be more content than just a link, and most likely they would post something like "die nazis" or something indicating this was their motivation. I think it's either someone who sells CP and spams websites with it, or someone who scams people who buy CP, and spams websites with it.>>330862>>330860
It's alright. I mentioned "negligence" because that is the standard, or is similar to the standard that would be used by any law enforcement agency or service provider. The main concern voiced has been that the presence of illegal content would result in the website being shut down. I very, very sincerely doubt that the presence of a single post made by someone who does not run the website, remaining for five hours, is even remotely close to what it would take to get the website shutdown. >>330862
Pupper said the thread could stay on this board; otherwise I would have moved it. You can want whatever you want, but you're not entitled to other people taking your wants seriously, and I don't for reasons explained.>I want my sword back
Not until you've shown you'll consistently take your medication>>330864>Loli - Hate speech
This was my argument against banning Loli. I was against that rule; Atlas insisted
This nigger here: >>330866
Seriously, read the jewish crimes thread for five minutes, you'll see what am talking about.
Look at the jewfag. Either hes legit a pro, whether agency or independent, or hes amateur. Either way, unless theres a very dedicated false-flag troll, we're on one or.more radars.>>330867>the law
While the threshold for 'negligence' in a 'legal' sense is encouraging, are you arguing that taking that long is a good thing?
"Anons of mlpol, please step around the CP, dont worry you wont get arrested"
Youre really going to need to learn to do more than gaslight. But I suppose you wont, cuz theres always more dupes. Carry on then.
I was still better than all of you combined, btw. For the site at least.>Pupper said
Oh did he? Well golly, thats a bunch of decisions Pupper made. I guess he DOESNT want to focus on coding (unless its pony emojis that no one even remembers are a thing, that shit gets done in hours).
I wouldnt want the sword if the people wielding it were competent, after all.
Fine fine, Ill fuck off to my thread
Sure thing kike, go back to trying to get the site admins to ban antisemitism because it hurts your feelings. I wish the Holocaust happened so your inbred cousin-fucking relatives would've been gassed.
Any guess who did this was it a Raid or something? Or are the feds fucking with us to see if this site has degenerate. Users?
No, it's a regular spammer.
I just said it for the meme. I genuinely agree with you, anon. Don't feel bad you're loved here.
Shut up, faggot. I wouldn't touch you if you weren't already asking for it, slut.
Why are you so desperate for attention anon?
I was badly neglected and abused as a child before being fostered out and I'm too traumatized to forge realistic relationships with people IRL because of it. I shitpost here in the desperate hope of gaining some form of acceptance and belonging.
Please kill me. I tried doing it myself, but I always chicken out.
Loathing keeps me alive.
Im gonna give it a week to respond, just to see if youre
See ya next week then! I genuinely look forward to it. It's funny when someone says the the truth, but in an ironic manner.
Try not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Given the current state of affairs in the world, it is fair to say this may have been a KGB or CCP “keyboard warrior” out to attack free speech. But in fairness, there are many here who want to silence the free speech of those who oppose a new antisemitic system of world governments, so I don’t know whether we can say this is necessarily true. But in fairness, all political opinions are accepted, so perhaps this could be a theory.>>330896
In countries like Russia, ordinary cybercriminals from the street typically go unpunished because of the states’ associations with organized crime, though the conspiracy here is that they are secretly working for their countries’ governments. I don’t know of the nationality of this person or his intentions, but some countries control these sorts of incidents better than others.>>330907
Who says there won’t be someone who loves you and cares for you? Sure, I agree that there is a shortage of love along with a whole bunch of other commodities, but I don’t see that as a reason to end it all, since there is always a chance. Perhaps try speaking to someone you are close to IRL about this issue or seeing a therapist.
I think they might actually be 14 years old or something.
Fair point. I remember myself and my then-classmates having to sit through a briefing by a police officer at school during my pre- or early teen years about the dangers and illegalities of sending CP to one another on our phones and how people could be prosecuted for it, even as minors. It may not be out of the question that it may just be some punk kid looking for attention.
But regardless, we are in an age of international spying and we should not rule out the possibility of a foreign attack on /mlpol/, even if its users kinda sorta agree with the assailants’ political views. They are after our right to speak freely and live our day-to-day lives regardless of our political opinions.
>>330932>we are in an age of international spying and we should not rule out the possibility of a foreign attack on /mlpol/
The psychosis running wild today. I have to conclude that you swallowed the propaganda together with the whole TV and sound bar.
We have evidence from the FBI and from YouTubers who have criticized Chinese policy and done research on their government that there is indeed a threat from foreign spies.
And those spies are.....?
Are they in this board now?
People who may or may not have a connection with Putin or Xi.>>330938
The only subversive element here is (you), judging by the fact you want the site admins to make antisemitism a bannable offense. Get into the oven, kike.
Terrible excuse for wanting to ban antisemitism, subversive kike
He posted something about how the CEO of cloudflare was Jewish and would ban me (or the site) if we didn't stop being antisemitic. Then deleted it.
"Terrible excuse for wanting to ban antisemitism, kike"
So how would you react if she sent notices to /mlpol/ staff saying they needed to get their antisemitism under control… or else? I’m just somewhat afraid of what could happen to this site. I literally did not know about any of this with her until very recently, but again, I am probably just stereotyping and letting fear control me.
And again: "Terrible excuse for wanting to ban antisemitism, kike"
Jews fear "antisemetism" because it gets in the way of their goals: total world domination and the enslavement of humanity.
Why do you think Jews won't just give up on their world domination goals and fuck off to a deserted island in the middle of nowhere?
We’d move to a different provider. There are other services, we just don’t use them because they cost money
See, what was why Gentiles initially supported Zionism; Jews painted it as "hey we're gonna fuck off somewhere and never come back" - needless to say they lied.
Let it happen, I don't give a fuck. Even if this site got shoahed entirely we could always rebuild it somewhere else. What matters is the community, not the site.
Would anyone be willing to host a site with that bad of a reputation in that circumstance?
We'll just have to see for ourselves. I'm not afraid.
out of curiosity are you retarded or are you mistaking that anon for another ID? I cant see anything in his posts suggesting that. more over, while he is retarded at saying it, it's certainly possible and likely that groups sympathetic to our enemies would canvas sites and boards with illegal content to get it taken down or siezed, as others mentioned in the beginning of this thread. The idea that it's russia in particular or xi is pretty low iq, but it's hardly glowziggery. Derpifaggots did it to ponerpics and twibooru.