/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>298372
I think I might have come across a great idea.

I was thinking about what I might say in a debate against a leftist if they were to accuse me of being a sexist (racist, nazi, etc. will also apply to this but I was thinking about the accusation of sexist in particular) and I found that my response was derisive and not quite mocking. When I realized this, I began to think about how they and anyone that was listening would respond to this, from the point of view that my audience was generally left-wing. Than it hit me: this is how we could win!

Hopefully some of you guys have heard of The Distributist's "Magical Words", words such as racist, sexist, nazi, xenophobe, etc. These are word traps: if you say that you are not a nazi, they can simply say, "That's what a nazi would say!", and if you embrace the identity, no one will listen to you and you will be discarded and removed from the argument. The way we can get around this trap is to simply avoid it. It's all rather simple. All you have to do is treat their accusation with derision and say that they are lying. Also, make sure you throw in an insult in there. It doesn't have to be a good one, and make sure you don't insult them too much. Your goal is not to get in an argument of verbal abuse. In this manner, you have sprung their trap without stepping in it. They can respond in four ways: by doubling down and asking you to 'prove' that you are not a nazi and/or saying that you are lying, claiming that they are not a liar, insulting you in return, or asking why you have insulted them. It should be pretty clear that most of these outcomes are an immediate victory for you, or at least give you the upper hand.

If they double down and repeat that you are a nazi, they are essentially calling you a liar in return. The left has tried to imbue all of their magical words with the inbuilt implication that the person you are accusing is a liar, however it is not directly recognized, and the far more direct meaning of 'liar' will stick out much more than the implications of their accusation. So, you double down in return. Continue to ask why they are lying about you, and why they need proof. Your goal from here is to deride the very notion that they need 'proof' that you are not a nazi. They might also directly use the word 'liar' themselves, which is a stronger argument for them to make, however is easily countered by calling them stupid or insane for lying about you and than lying again accusing you of lying. In both paths, you should make the whole idea that you are a 'secret nazi' completely laughable, and make your opponent look like a fool for suggesting so. They might also directly use the word 'liar' themselves, which is a stronger argument for them to make, however is easily countered by calling them stupid or insane for lying about you and than lying again accusing you of lying. In both paths, you should make the whole idea that you are a 'secret nazi' completely laughable, and make your opponent look like a fool for suggesting so.

The next option is to claim that they are not a liar. This gives you an opening: if they are not lying, they must be an idiot or insane to accuse you of something like this. Laugh at and deride them. After this point, they will realize it is not working and transfer to another one of these responses.

The third option is for them to insult you in return. While it might seem like your goal is to get into a flame war based on these tactics, your actual goal is to deride all accusations/emotional arguments that your opponent makes. You let them set their trap, and if you spring it without getting yourself caught, they will end up embarrassing themselves in front of their audience and looking like an illogical fool. Therefore, if any of these responses eventually lead to an insult war, your goal is to stop it as soon as possible. Make it clear that you are the logical one, they are the one who insulted you first after all. If you treat their accusation like an insult and steadily escalate the language, you make it clear that you are not the one who started it, nor did you freak out. If you bring the debate back under control and into civilized territory after this, it will further you towards your goal by making you look much more mature that your opponent.

>>298379
(cont.)

The final option is for them to ask why you insulted them. This is the response you might expect from a 'polite' debater like Shapiro. It is rather simple to counter, just say that them accusing you of such a ridiculous ideology is an insult itself, and they started it. Make them look unaware of the potential consequences of their accusations, and extrapolate that to them being unaware about how the world actually works.

You get add bonus points for each response if you make your opponent look malicious or dangerous for accusing you of these things.

By now you must be asking, "why is it some important to insult and make a fool out of your opponents?" Well, think about political cartoons and meme theory. Political cartoons have always created to represent the writer's political opposition as fools, and one of the main reasons we won in 2016 was because we were about to create millions of images and videos that derided our opponents and made them look like fools, and spread that content all over the internet, so much so that even boomers saw them. Unfortunately, we have separated into disparate media networks, and that no long works. Therefore, we must seize control of social interaction. Debate people, talk with anyone you can. If we can make it socially nonviable to make emotional arguments, this will immediately give us more support from women.
Make sure you NEVER respond in a derisive or insulting way if your opponent offers a logical argument. The whole point of this is to push the window of discourse away from accusations and emotions and towards logic. As long as we debate them through the use of logic, we will inevitably win.
I would like to address how your opponent might go about accusing you of something. If you are in an actual civil debate, they will not scream 'You're a nazi!", instead, they might just try to ask, "Are you a nazi?" or "That sounds like something a nazi would say." From here, you must take the initiative. Put words in their mouth: Make it clear that you believe they are saying you are a nazi. If they say, yes, they think you are one, proceed to do what I have already suggested. If they insist that they are 'just asking!' make it clear that the suggestion that you might be a nazi is ridiculous, and say that they are poisoning the well. They will probably try to insist that they are just asking a question and that you should answer, DO NOT. Make them look malicious and force them to give up or else you will quit the debate.
If you are actually one of those -ists, I don't care, but they do. Do not admit it, they will never listen to you if you do.

I know I am probably not the first person to think of this, and there are more ways to accuse you and for them to respond to your responses, but this should cover the most common responses.

That's about all from me. Let me know of your ideas or if I missed anything.

Here's my thoughts; some low-dose redpills to drop on normalfags.

Social justice = Affirmative Action 2.0
Gen-Xers and normalfags of that age remember the bullshit that was affirmative action. If you get questions about social justice, call it out as this.

Male Mother-In-Laws (Alternatively, Male Karens)
Heard these while gaming, it's an amazing analogy for Beta Males and emotionally-dysfunctional feminist men. Pick whichever term you want, but either term should be sufficient enough to describe men with no masculinity.

Six-Million Europeans (AKA holocaust victimhood fraud)
It's insane to think that someone can systematically fake industrial-scale human suffering. Normalfags hate the idea of the holocaust being faked. However, it's much easier for a vocal minority to take credit for torture they never suffered.

Everyone suffered in WWII, the truth of those who experienced real pain under a blanket of hysteria and war should be revealed as such.

fortunately, the "right wing", being more independent and mentally and physically healthier, have less of a hard time being socially outcasted, alienated, and ostracized than leftists.

Leftists are inherient followers, so without social recognition and acceptance by their peers, they will lose their shit in fear. Most of this recognition and acceptance derives from the attitudes of the political ruling class, aka the most influential rich jews. To simply break this spell that leftists have fallen into, you must address these fundamental points they hold:

>b-but the most educated people are liberals!!!
While the elite universities tend to be majority liberal, the top 5% graduates with the highest acedemic success end up voting republican and hold conservative views. Its the professors and the people who stay in the universities as their career who end up becoming shitlibs.

>b-but muh experts!, muh peer review! muh consensus!!!
Unfortunately the only "science" that affects our day to day lives are the historical achievements of science, which of course is credited to only the 1-2% of top achieving scientists. The other 98% of scientists dont actually affect your life much differently, theyre basically a waste of your tax dollars. On top of that, most experts have just as worse prediction power as non experts, "peer-review" studies themselves show the peer-review proccess to be garbage.

After swallowing this info, it becomes apparent that the whole leftist ideology is rested on lies about Adolf Hitler. Had you not been taught about the nazi regime in elementary school, had you not been taught about the jews being rounded up in camps and the holocaust, there would be far less people "on the left".

Ponerfrens, much of decision-making is based upon feelings, about 7/10ths of it, to be exact. Picrelated shows that whatever you're trying to convince normies of, and even fellow aspies, you have to make them feel as though their feelings are being heard (careful with the women on that one, they're pretty manipulative). This is not possible with very many of the normals, as I'm sure you are all very well aware of. Some people are simply not open to listening to reason, that's okay. There's lots of other people out there that might be willing to listen instead, move onto talking with them. Much more efficient use of time and energy.
Written from the perspective of a rationalist scientist, for an audience of the center left in 2012, author Haidt was forward-thinking enough to see that a big split was coming in the culture war of the US, and tried to warn people of it just as it was starting to spill over into the calamity that we see today.
Lots of interesting findings in there, for example he put together the effort to show that rural folk in Brazil had more in common morally with the American working class than either had with city dwellers only a few miles away. If you want to lightly redpill people, it may not hurt to learn from what might be one of the best.

>Inb4 (((Haidt)))
Mhm.

>>298624
Thank you anon, this looks to be a good read. By re view it seems to touch on or parallel a personal favorite of mine, The Guru Papers. Highly recommended.

>The Guru Papers demonstrates with uncompromising clarity that authoritarian control, which once held societies together, is now at the core of personal, social, and planetary problems, and thus a key factor in social disintegration. It illustrates how authoritarianism is embedded in the way people think, hiding in culture, values, daily life, and in the very morality people try to live by. The book unmasks authoritarianism in such areas as relationships, cults, 12-step groups, religion, and contemporary morality. Chapters on addiction and love show the insidious nature of authoritarian values and ideologies in the most intimate corners of life, offering new frameworks for understanding why people get addicted and why intimacy is laden with conflict. By exposing the inner authoritarian that people use to control themselves and others, the authors show why people give up their power, and how others get and maintain it.

>>298624
Thanks anon.

>>298372
I'm assuming "Biden" rolled out the word "unity" so that they could claim it before the populists and fuck up any sense of unity we have with one another. They're doing it because that's what the little guy needs right now and they want to take it and hit us over the head with it just like everything else. They're going to fuck with a lot of people in the name of "unity" and it's going to be a hot button issue precisely so that we have none of it whatsoever and they can continue to divide and conquer.
It's not a battle we can win. Let them have their "unity." Let us have cohesion instead.

>>300440
I sympathize, but if you're still thinking in terms of states you haven't gone far enough in terms of secessionism. Secession must be encouraged at the local level, particularly in small, homogenous high-trust towns and villages, preferably that are relatively healthy economically speaking, and either can produce enough food for themselves or have reliable access to a nearby source of food. Once a few small towns stop paying taxes to, and obeying the dictates of, the kiked state and federal governments, I believe it will spread like a wildfire. Obviously, the feds are going to be pissed about this, but I don't it'll end like Ruby Ridge. Sending ZOGbots in to violently assert authority in a bunch of towns across the country will be much more challenging, both practically and optically, than shooting a family of white separatists in the forest and saying they were nahtzee domestic terrorists.

>>298379
I tell my family that these "media" "politicians" use key trigger words to make people circle jerk themselves. Anything to distract us and the bankers to take all our fucking money. Jail the fucking bankers.

>>300440
Texans are painfully aware of the mass exodus to the state, particularly in Austin, as well as Houston, Dallas/Fort Worth, and other major cities, specifically ones with colleges. An influx of staunch (or even libertarian) conservatives is absolutely necessary to hold the line, as liberals are already here and still coming. If one is able, rural Texas is the lifeblood of Texas, and where one is likeliest to find allies, East Texas in particular. And especially to those from liberal states; you will be eyeballed extensively, but Texans are quite welcoming when they learn you share their values, and especially in the face of testimony as to why your previous state had become intolerable and unsustainable. Bonus points if you can cite passages of the constitution in decrying other states, as well as more notably choice quotes (the tree of liberty, for example). And everyone here loves guns. Like,... everyone (rural, at least).
Texas. Fucking Texas.
>t. Ex-California /Washingtonian.

>>298372
The best way to redpill someone on the fence/stuck in "both sides" thinking is to show them short and to-the-point videos of Protected Categories behaving badly.
Videos of blacks cheering on a black supremacist replacist chanting "Kill whitey!",,,
videos of Critical Race Theory saying whites should be abused or held back or silenced or shut out of discussions...
videos of feminists bragging about their hatred of men...
And best of all, video footage of islamic "protests" where screaming rabid fighting-age "refugees" wave around signs saying shit like "Death to America!" and "We want JUST ISLAM! Freedom GO TO HELL!"
short videos to explain in simple terms and with specific examples how the left wars on innocent whites whether they defend themselves or not.
Normies aren't ready to watch one-hour Jordan Peterson footage, but they can watch 5-minute montages of his speeches at their most inspirational with inspirational music in the background.
They aren't ready to watch some skeptic take half an hour to explain why Anita Sarkesian's feminist ramblings are wrong, but a short clip of her saying "Kill all men" will shatter a normie's brainwashing and break the conditioning.

If you show normies videos of innocent old men being attacked by antifa they'll still be stuck in "Well maybe he was a nazi/maybe he deserved it" mode. They need their subtly-brainwashed love of leftists and their celebrities and thugs and protected classes broken before they can understand the idea that leftists do bad things and are doing bad things to their country.

>>300507
Do you think Texas could save itself from the blue invasion by getting its own immigration standards?

>>300510
>Jordan Peterson
You've been keeping up with his health issues, right? I've been meaning to make a thread about it to inform anons about akathisia. It's really, really fucked up, doesn't matter if you like the guy's viewpoints or think he's a hack. Something out of A Clockwork Orange.

>>298372
The American right is still clinging to the idea that the American Establishment is somehow "fascist," like the Soviets called the US. The movement will continue to get absolutely nowhere if they keep that up. It's no doubt a narrative fueled by the (((Establishment))) itself to get white men to fight the idea that white men are good.
You merely need to tell the truth for this lie to fall apart. The tactics utilized by the Establishment are GPU and Stasi, not Gestapo. We don't need to mention the JQ, we just need to link totalitarianism to Marxism, where it belongs. Otherwise the right is going to keep hitting itself in the face.
If you want to learn more about the Stasi check out its infogalactic page. They were really diabolical. In fact, you can see the same sorts of tactics in shills. Much of what they were doing was gaslighting and throwing dissidents into mental hospitals and prisons for unrelated things as a way to discredit them in the public eye and imprison them anyway with a "two birds one stone" approach. Can you say #MeToo and "take your meds?"

Another idea would be to start (or accelerate in) framing the JQ in terms of Israel. Burgers especially think about the world in terms of national identity. They didn't round up the nips and put them in camps because of their race. They did it because they were are war with Japan.
It's going to be harder for (((them))) to screech "anti-semitism" when you're criticizing their link to a hostile foreign entity. The natsocs didn't gas the six gorillion Israelis, see.

>Inb4 isn't this a leftist tactic
No. Not really. The left has been bludgeoning the english language for quite a while now, and it's become a battleground whether we like it or not, and we're losing badly. However, much of what they're saying is easily counterable by sidestepping their (baseless) accusations and coming up with words that better appeal to the public. Newspeak isn't required. Just pick other available words, which in many cases fit the situation better anyway. Much like saying natsoc instead of nazi, though that does seem a bit too close, doesn't it. If we could really get SocNat going instead it would probably help.
Don't believe me? Try it out a bit. People base their judgements on knee-jerk intuition and feelings rather than deliberative thought 8 or 9 times out of 10. If you can sidestep the (again baseless) accusations of the (((Elite))) and get your foot in the door, so to speak, you might be kind of surprised at what people might be willing to hear. A centrist compromise? Why didn't you say so!

>>300577
>baseless accusations of the (((elite)))
Oh come on, who are you lying to?

>>300578
Not lying, fren. If that's all you got out of my advice then I guess I can't help you.

>>298372
It's so easy to sit around validating each other on websites where we're allowed to say "Fuck jews and niggers"
It feels good after all that time in a jew-dominated world, being made to feel like you're the problem and an outlier with no place in their world besides the camps they'll make for us if they're not stopped.
"The rise of populism" is happening. Normies are starting to realize SOMETHING is wrong with the jewish system that's stripping their rights away. They need to be redpilled into full nazis before the jews figure out how to make up and sell "The next Q" aka the next bullshit lie that'll get people to sit around trusting the jewish plan instead of wanting it stopped.

>>300678
Okay. What do you intend to do about it? This is a Tactics and Strategy thread. I assume a decent chunk of anons would be willing to follow your lead if you came up with a good idea on how to go about making that happen.

>>300727
I'm of the mind that anons should abandon all fear of losing their anonymity and connect irl, using whatever vetting and filtration methods they can. I mean, meet with your steam buddies and get to know eachother, if possible. Shit like that.

>>300730
>I mean, meet with your steam buddies and get to know eachother
Better stick to a neighbour tight community where you know even your buddy's grandparents. Then you may have an accurate idea about who you are dealing with.
Keep it small and tight. Remember, even simple teachers and nurses are dependents of the government's money and therefore they are proxy agents.
Just my two cents.

>>300727
How about a campaign to expose the pedo nature of the LGBTQWERTYs?
Collages of pedos at pride marches looking pedoish and pedo articles and shit like that to make the normies hate pedos.
It could focus on neutral anime sites since feminists love claiming tame animes like Sailor Moon and Uzaki-Chan promote pedophilia even though feminists are on team pedoleft.
Gamers are sick of the "gamers are nazis" stuff but anime fans aren't as up to speed when it comes to why jewish Sony/Crunchyroll censors their animus.

>>300747
I'm not all that well-versed in anime, I think I've only seen like three of the most normie-tier ones out there, but maybe some other anons would have a better idea in case they want to join. I do know that /v/ is pissed off about the censorship in some jap games. Are you looking to put some caption on it that says "the people that are promoting this are also censoring your waifu" or something?

>>298372
Not only are (((they))) trying to filter what ideas can be expressed in public, but we are on the defensive here in that they are also attempting to prevent restrictions on our ability to choose which messages we do not receive. This is something that as of now is easier to control, at least in our private lives. If you get tired of hearing about the latest publicity stunt by AOC or the left's overall whorish attitude when it comes to politics, and you think you might rather not know about it, you're not obligated to read the story. It's most likely a way for some activist journalist to slip in a bunch of passive-aggressive comments about "white man bad."
If you're wondering how low they'd be willing to let themselves go for a sliver of your attention, then the answer is that there's no lower limit. The best we can do for now is defend our minds from indoctrination.

>>300764
Crunchyroll/Funimation has been editing lines and making anime characters from Prison School and Kobayashi's Dragon Maid say anti-white shit like "You're not one of those fucking Gamergate creeps, are you?!" and "Gee I sure hate being a woman and dealing with these patriarchal societal demands!" and attacking good-hearted Christian voice actor Vic Mignogna (Broly from DBZ, Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist( based on the nonsense accusations of lefty LGBQWEERTYs mad that he won't sign gay Edward Elric porn.
Sony has been censoring anime games like mad
"leftist-run" (Jew-owned) media conglomerates have been slandering gamers for decades, and they've stopped trying to pretend it's some christian "gamers are satanic" thing.
https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Gamers_Are_Dead
Also Commie China pressured the Vtuber company Hololive because two of its streamers showed off statistics that display where their viewers are from, and Taiwan (A country Pathetic Commie China hates and fears) was on the statistics and therefore acknowledged as a country that exists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBq2z4mufLY

SJWs are the enemy of everyone, newfags just need help to figure out where the SJWs came from (Marxist beliefs in Social Justice and Racial Justice, just like what motivates BLMafia/Antifa, and those Marxist beliefs came from the jewish Frankfurt school)

SJWs love screaming "ALL GAMERS AND ANIME FANS ARE NAZIS!". If that was true, nazism would be more mainstream than either gaming or anime on its own! The jews would be too afraid to do anything evil ever again.

>>300980
Who gives a fuck? Japanese cartoons and video games have done more to destroy the white birth rate and family than anything else could. Men spend all their time in fictional worlds getting fictional achievements. They get crushed on cartoon girls and jerk off to hentai instead of finding a girlfriend.

The more crunchy roll fuck up anime the better. White people have no use for Asian cartoons and they sure as fuck shouldn't be shown to children or turned into a life style.

>>300984
>Who gives a fuck?
You do. That's why you had to come to one of the last bastions of a free chan site to voice your angsty opinion. You can't express it anywhere else so you come here to the horse fucker site because of that. You're like a fucking slave too scared to venture out of the plantation while condemning those that still have their bits of freedom. As long the master doesn't hurt you again they can take away culture like video games and anime, is that right? You have already lost this culture war and if it was up to me, I would ban you from this site too. Take away that last slave comfort of anonymity away from you and see how long you last

>>300991
How fucked up are you to consider consuming mass produced media aimed at man children to be freedom?

>>300996
Big words, no substance. Desu.

>>300996
It's the culture. It's the reason why you're hiding away on the horse fucker chan right now, bitching and whining about said culture. You're not any where close to the man you think you are you fucking slave.

>>300999
Checked and true

>>300999
Checked.

>>300999
>>301000
When your argument is so weak you have to same fag.

You can't justify letting Asian cartoons influence white men. It encourages trannyism and being a NEET.

>301002
I didn't realize I was arguring. I was just was responding a faggot crying and bitching about muh anime and games. You're still crying about it. I'm not even going to give you this pity (You) either

>>301003
Oh shit, he removed a > . I am el epic owned now!

Fuck off retard, you're a prime example of what's wrong with weebs. Take a shower, hit the gym, get a clue you fat smelly weeaboo.

>>301004
Post your body faggot. You won't. You're too fucking scared. That's why you're hiding here on this chan.

>>301004
You talk a lot shit for someone too scared to show their ubermensch body

>>301004
That's what I thought faggot

>>301002
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>>301007
Will you both give it a fucking rest? Belgium anon, you've been derailing threads nonstop since yesterday with inane, muddled opinions that nobody give a shit about, and Americafag, you're wasting gets checking your own fucking gets. This isn't 4chan, please take your internet slapfight someplace else. Fuck.

Oof.

>>301008
Sorry Anon. Too used to 4chan.

>>301008
No one gives a shit about your opinion. If you can't handle disagreement maybe you should shoot yourself in the forehead already.

>>301011
Do you genuinely think japanese cartoons are a bad influence on white men?
What would you rather they watch? Bugs Bunny? Spongebob? Mickey Mouse? The Future Is Wild?
At least weeaboos aren't growing up forced to watch Ru Paul's Drag Race by their jewed boomernigger parents.

>>301014
Yes. Anime is one of the biggest factors in shut-ins in Japan. It's an industry which destroys men the same way games do. Otaku are despised in Japan and they have exported otakuism to the west. How many men do you see rejecting real women in favour of cartoon ones? It's no different to MGTOOW.

Bugs Bunny isn't bad, or wasn't when I was a kid but no. I would rather adult men grew up and moved away from mass media in general. There's lots of good books and if you do want to watch a TV show why not watch something informative instead? How it's made, forged in fire or food factory are all fine shows with little to no poz. Nature documentaries are great too, always good to learn about animals and how the food chain functions.

It's good weeaboos aren't watching Ru Paul's Drag Race but how many people have ended up being trannies because of anime? How many become gay or bisexual? There's a massive amount of trannies into anime and gaming culture. More so than any where else outside of tranny exclusive areas. Interracial couples, homosexual couples, fags and every bit of poz western TV pushes was in anime long before it arrived on our shores in large numbers. Cowboy bebop has a tranny character played straight, Mobile Suit Gundam has interracial relationships, those are two of the biggest animes in the West and both push Jewish values.

>>301010
Thank you for stopping this behavior. I'm not really sure what's up with Belgium anon, it might just be best to ignore him. Normally this board has a lot of friendship on it, in case you don't frequent the place all that much.

>>301009
Wasn't angry at you anon. Hopefully we can get this thread back on track.

>>301022
So you approve of Asian cartoons being the primary influence in a white man's life? Just a yes or no answer.

>>301018
Do you think it's the entertainment that makes men unmasculine, or the failing society that fails to adequately encourage men to be tough manly hard workers? What rewards are a manly man guaranteed for all his self sacrifice and dedication when his society treats females better than males and both marriage and reproduction have been corrupted into tools the hyper privileged femoids use to manipulate and enslave men? Can amy man trust a woman when the state and her lies are weapons she can use against him to destroy him for fun if he ever displeases her or fails to satisfy her enough?

Schools for the poor don't train kids to be mature responsible self-sufficient adults with the knowledge needed to start and run their own businesses. They are trained to obey and believe if you can't labor for your betters you've failed at life. College separates the skills for working in any given field from the skills needed to run your own business for the same purpose. The ruling class doesn't want men. It wants ashamed and controlled worker drones with no heritage or higher purpose or god. Is it any wonder that so many people around the world retreat from this reality to obsess over cartoons or music or books or any other fleeting form of amusement?

>>301036
Do you think men wouldn't have stood up and fought back if video games and anime hadn't softened them up so bad? Porn fulfills the sex drive and warps it, anime fulfills the relationship drive and warps it (so does streaming), video games fulfill the achievement drive and warps it.

It has never been easier to get access to skills you need to work as a craftsman. You can read an infinite number of books on how to be a writer or watch videos on how to forge metal. Never in all of human history have men had so many options to have a masculine hobby. Soy boy weeaboos choose to be that way because it's an easy circus to dwell in.

>>301061
You're missing the point. Institutions in society have been corrupted. They no longer produce men intentionally. Schools were designed by women and leftists and jews and it shows. Schools seek to sabotage the development of men and society has no reward for men who try their best but can't reach some arbitrarily high level of success that guarantees them a house they own and guns and multiple kids and a loyal wife. There are countless pieces of entertainment out there. Anything you can say about anime also applies to books and music and video games and art. And other hobbies like hiking and skydiving and skiing and swimming and jogging. And corporate hobbies like Warhammer 40k or yugioh or magic the gathering.

>>301065
You don't know what you're talking about when you compare the damage these things do to skydiving and hiking. You can't see the difference between walking up a mountain and watching cartoons make for autistic bug men.

>>301065
>anything you can say about anime also applies to
Please validate that point. I would like to see what criticisms you would apply to anine that equally goes for
>hiking and skydiving and skiing and swimming and jogging

>>300747
>we need to attack some minority group that isn't (((them)))
you guys need to take the real redpill, attacking organizations like this is not the play. you need to build instead of just destroy, build systems, businesses, and wealth. provide services so good the people cant live without them. how do you think the jew got so indesposable in the first place? Every plan I hear in this thread is about attacking and destroying something, news flash, regardless of how stupid, gaslight, and bluepilled the average person is, as long as they see you locked in a battle gainst jews they will never ever take your side.

How did any of us even become redpilled in the first place? we where born on a shitty anime porno site with occasional side diiscussion and memes. We where minding our own business and got attacked. This is the scenario you need to recreate, and anyone can recreate it, but you will never see anyone in /pol/ do so. They dont take instruction, they dont have self control, and they are blackpilled to hell and back.

You want to redpill normies this is how you do it. you create a highly successful platform and you don't bend the knee when inevitably they come for you, just like 4chan did for a while, till eventually they did of course, but the average anon remained resilient.

think about discord for example. Its filled to the brim with commies and furries, yet we all trudge our way over there to talk with our friends, just as we keep coming back to 4cuck for our next (you). Getting anyone to abandon that shithole is a lost cause, you cant tell them theres a danger, you cant explain how its really their enemey. Even without mentioning the jews and evading agent smith all the while, they will not learn because they don't want to learn. The only thing strong enough to push them into the arms of security is excitement, desire, consumption. Keep running around with your heads cut off, keep ignoring banking, investment, legal strategies, public relations, and dont form strong partnerships that are unbreakable. I'm sure individually and seperately you will be able to somehow take on these monolithic corporations and their commie pawns, it worked so well the first time right?

Thinking is the hardest work there is, sadly most of you will look at this work load and go back to shitposting.

>>301164
Great plan. We'll build our own websites which get taken down, have all their payment options removed and get black listed every where. We'll red pill al the normies that way!

>We all use discord
No. We don't. YOU use discord and think everyone else uses it. If you were "red pilled" as you like to claim you would know discord is spyware and you shouldn't be touching it unless you want your computer scanned and unknown amounts of data to be fed to who knows what. It's easy to get people off Discord when you explain it acts like a virus on their computer.

>>301070
>>301067
Entertainment with harmful messaging... who does it appeal to? Who chooses to buy it?
Japs make animes that are basically comfort porn because they chase market trends. Comfort porn anime makes money from a jewed populace desperate for comfort. The lowest common denominator buys the lazy fantasy shlock while better media has niche appeal yet still tries to sustain itself on selling uncensored blu-rays or merch or both.
By the time someone is an adult able to purchase their own media these days they have been raised on jewish propaganda. They saw perversions in western cartoons and perverts on cop shows first. They were dog trained into obedience in school first.
Blaming anime is easy but looking at bigger influences on developing children is harder. It's easy to say anime makes you gay and harder to say children's media that promotes faggotry should be banned. If violent video games don't make adults violent then homosexual animes won't make adults homosexual. But kids? Kids should be shielded from degeneracy until they're adult enough to reject it on their own.
Skydiving and hiking and watching cartoons and reading books, none of these activities oppose the jew or threaten his interests.
Do you want anime fans and gamers to recognize the damage jews want to do to their hobbies and want jews stopped or not?

>>301289
Ok fine reading mein kampf threatens the jew's interests but reading Harry Potter doesn't so my point still stands. Saying "anime sucks because it distracts you" also applies to skydiving. Skydiving is also a fun distraction just like anime.

Does anyone ever just get curious about trying to put the fear of God into a shill sometimes? I'm not talking about threats or anything like that, but try to induce an existential crisis, just to see what it would do? They don't think about this kind of thing on their own, at least not very deeply, do they? I haven't done it because arguing with shills isn't my idea of a good time, but furthermore even on a shill I think it might feel too messed up to do in case you succeed.
Ah, who am I kidding. They're probably loaded up on benzos too much to care anyway.

>>301536
Mind fuckery is lots of fun if that's what you're into doing. Good practice to disrupt them from the ground up, if successful can have long lasting consequences.
Or they fuck off.
I wouldn't recommend it all the time, too raw to function cooperatively if done without restraint and focus.

>>301284
>If violent video games don't make adults violent then homosexual animes won't make adults homosexual. But kids? Kids should be shielded from degeneracy until they're adult enough to reject it on their own.
This argument is completely incorrect but common for weebs to use.

When you play vidya your hands are occupied and you're interacting with it. You're not sitting there cranking your plank to androgynous characters who all look the same except the hair style. Very few games are capable of manipulating you sexually to orgasm without outside help. Anime and it's surrounding community is extremely sexualized and does lead to masturbating to these sexless creatures where artists put dicks on all the women etc. If we take the slippery slope at step 1 watching anime, it goes to step 4 which is masturbating to hentai with futa in it. Not every one will reach that low but you can't deny that is a large enough part of the community to be significant. If it just stayed in the cartoon fantasy realm that would be different, but cam whores and onlyfans people are making content/paying for content based on manga expressions and anime characters. Anime sexuality has corrupted young men's sexuality and created a market for women pretending to be anime. The pink haired slut who just went hardcore is 100% an anime girl made real. Her whole point is to look at animeish as possible with all her filters and she's one of the most successful cam whores out there. The two attached images are a direct result of anime's sexual influences leaking into the real world.

Comfort porn is a good term. It needs to be spread wider to wake people up to it's nature.

>>301543
To be fair, the thot in pic 1 would probably be able to get cucks to give her money no matter what fetishistic thing she chose as a gimmick, and the guy in pic 2 looks like he was probably pretty gay even before he started doing shit like this.

I would argue that anime doesn't cause people to develop weird fetishes so much as it exacerbates weird fetish behavior in people who already have some predisposition to that sort of thing. Japan has marketing down to a science; anime is highly formulaic and is laser-targeted to specific niches within the already-niche group of anime fans. Just about any bizarre fetish you can think of has a subgenre of hentai associated with it, so pretty much any kink a person might have is likely to be represented somewhere in anime. So, people just gravitate towards what they were already into, either consciously or latently.

None of this is to say that anime hasn't had a net negative impact on society; I'll admit that it probably has. The problem though is not so much that it takes otherwise normal people and turns them into degenerates so much as that it normalizes and amplifies degenerate behavior in individuals who are already prone to it. My guess is that a certain number of otherwise functional people might have might have some kind of oddball sexual quirk, that getting into anime may either awaken or strengthen. This doesn't necessarily mean that this person will suddenly start dressing up like Sailor Moon or forking over boatloads of cash to e-whores who make ahegao faces. The vast majority of anime fans I've known are relatively normal well-adjusted people who simply count anime as one hobby out of a wide array of things they're interested in. Personally I enjoy anime though I admit I've lost interest in it over the last couple of years; I actually watch a lot less TV in general these days, but I also maintain gainful employment, work out, go hiking, read, have creative hobbies, etc. I'll admit to owning a couple of degenerate items, but nothing too severe.

The percentage of anime consumers who turn into dildo-waving faggots or neckbeard coomers is probably comparable to the percentage of beer-drinkers who turn into alcoholics or the percentage of occasional casino patrons who turn into gambling addicts. Sex is a dopamine rush like any other vice, and some people just have the right combination of predisposition toward certain addictions and a lack of self control for it to become a serious problem.

>>301176
>No. We don't. YOU use discord and think everyone else uses it.
kek no, You all do. Maybe you personally dont, but then, if youre going to split that hair theres no way you can argue you aren't as dumb as a nigger. now take your black hands, black id, and black pills and go shove them up your own ass.

>>301543
Comfort porn is a good term, but would you like me to find some degenerate twitch thots who don't try to "look anime" and show them to you? White women are encouraged to be exploitative whores. White men are shamed and dog-trained in the deeducational industrial complex into being brainwashed anti-white "humbled" cucks desperate for hot babes to step on them/say their names/acknowledge their existences. Obviously some whites are too mentally strong to have their spirit broken by the system. But the jewish system itself is what breaks so many men before they're old enough to question anything. Blaming one out of thirty other ways to retreat from reality for the negative results of the bad system makes no sense. If all anime was erased from reality tomorrow, do you think animefags would open a copy of Siege or switch over to some lower form of entertainment like the shit that comes out of the west these days? Do you think they'd fill the space in their room left by all their vanishing bodypillows with AKs and ARs or funko pops of trashy jew lefty celebrities?
And this
>Very few games are capable of manipulating you sexually to orgasm without outside help
No show or game has ever done that for me. What kind of shit have you seen?

>>301655
Without those degenerates post-corrupting enabling others we wouldn't see an increase in them which encourages others to follow. You can see how tranny's have come out of the wood work because of the cultural encouragement. If someone is degenerate inclined and doesn't act on it then they're as good as a non-degenerate. As you pointed out anime is now laser pointed at appealing to it's niche audiences both fetish and emotion wise. It's comfort porn to entrap single men into obsessing over anime merchandise instead of fixing their lives so cartoons as no longer the defining factor of their lives.

>>301739
The jewish system is a system of many smaller interlocking systems. Don't work to achieve anything goy just play games made to manipulate you to feel like you did. Don't have sex goy just watch JOI porn to feel like you did, get a fleshlight for the maximum experience. Don't have friends and build up relationships goy, here's a harem anime with your favourite uguuuu desu girl type you like. When this one finishes we have 2 more next season for you!

My concern with anime specifically over jewish TV or porn is that the later two haven't infiltrated pro-white communities. You cannot find a white nationalist or European nation nationalist that doesn't promote Japanese media or Japanese characters. You have nationists turn their nose up at Jewish subversion but welcome Japanese subversion with open arms while Japan is a puppet state of the Zionists since WW2 ended. Anime was made specifically in the style of Jewish Hollywood productions.

I don't want to live in a white nation full of weeaboos worshiping Asian cartoons. I want to live in a white nation with European culture and people. Either you're pro-white or you're not and you need to remember Asians will happily subvert you and abuse you exactly the way the jews do. Letting your enemies influence your life the way anime fans do is pathetic and dangerous.

>>301745
I thought the old animes like Astro Boy were designed by the old western Disney style

>>301750
Which was part of the jewish media industry and a part of Hollywood. They made pro-Jew cartoons during WW2.

Astro boy marks the massive drop in Asian birth rates as well. Which is interesting to note.

>>301756
Are you sure a cartoon about a robot boy with jets in his legs and machine guns in his arsecheeks caused that colossal drop in birth rates, rather than something else that happened to Japan around that time, such as feminism or a change in government?

>>301164
This.
The point is to create things that people like not so much trying to destroy things. Our enemy owns the world, they can afford to repair whatever we destory.
Take E;R for example, people thinks that he is always joking but if you're on the inside, like we are , you can tell that he isn't. Why otherwise would he mention how jew completely dominated holllywood is by jews and so on?
The same can be said about Aryanne posting. It's a cute poner so nobody really takes it seriously but she has a swatstica on her hip. So it's a bit of an edgy joke because the person posting it can't be serious can they?
That's why I, maybe not always so successfully, tries to write stories. Because reading a book, which is attached from realities loyalties and kinda explores question in an entirely abstract way, can change people's mind without them being really aware of it.
Like how everyone loves Lord of the Rings and basically accepts that elves are superior to humans in it but will choke if you point it out.
It plants a seed.
Point is you can mask messages with fiction quite efficently. Like, Thanos is the villain of a story but you cannot really deny that he has a point that overpopulation can become a problem. Or well, not really, Oyoyoy, we're facing overpopulation goy got to stop giving births to white children.
But on a more abstact plane, right? If there is too many people that you have resources to, then there is dangers with overpopulation.
If a story is really liked, it's harder to dismiss it as racist or whatever as in the case with Lord of the Rings.

>>301854
Something i've noticed is that several media keep their first season clean or atleast as clean as it gets, wins over the hearts of the public and then goes all woke in season two, and it does seem intentional.

>>301854
Overpopulation itself isn't a bad thing, as humanity can always construct sea-cities and space stations for itself.
More lives doesn't just mean more mouths to feed, it also means more hands to work and more minds to think of ways to use old resources more efficiently and create new products.
The problem is that the world's being flooded with low-IQ commies/niggers, just like the first world countries are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV18Xx5EkaE&ab_channel=FoundationforEconomicEducation

>>301877
Sea cities still need to grow food and the ocean isn't ideal for farming crops. Space is unsurprisingly even worse for it.

>>301882
I don't want to sound too extreme but we'd have a lot more room if the whole planet was ours. So far aside from China's one child policy, every attempt to reduce the global population has been the jews telling whites not to breed.

>>301854
>It's a cute poner so nobody really takes it seriously but she has a swatstica on her hip. So it's a bit of an edgy joke because the person posting it can't be serious can they?
That's what they're saying over at /mlp/. Lots of untapped potential there.

>Point is you can mask messages with fiction quite efficently.
As they say, the pen is mightier than the sword. MSM knows that for damn sure, and unfortunately aestheticism is subsequently unlikely to be on the rise anytime soon, but that's not really our problem. People latch onto the aesthetics, and keep the message. If you've really got a good match, it'll go together like ponies and friendship.

>>301854
>Because reading a book, which is attached
>detached
As in the example with Lord of the Rings, dwarves and elves are different races and everyone is okay with that.
>>301876
I could be or it could also be that it gets subverted organically or because it's not pozzed enough. But there could defintely be series that are there to appeal to more people. Afterall, there are still conservatives and such in the world, even if one can criticise them, the people making movies still want to get them to watch their stff so they might "make deals with the devil" for the first season or movie and then change.
I don't know but it is intresting to speculate on.
>>301900
>That's what they're saying over at /mlp/. Lots of untapped potential there.
Really? That's great.

>>301911
>>That's what they're saying over at /mlp/. Lots of untapped potential there.
>Really? That's great.
Don't take my word for it. See for yourself.
https://boards.4channel.org/mlp/thread/36576589

>>301911
Dwarves aren't a different race, they're different species - there are half-elves (who admittedly have to choose whether to be elves or humans eventually, so it's more of divine intervention than actual fertile offspring), but no half-dwarves whatsoever.
Also, plenty of people taking offense with the orcs through being racist and thinking they're blacks... even though actual niggers are LITERALLY RIGHT THERE.

>>302367
This, but also:
Find as many disaffected members of your race (white, hopefully) and start handing together. Construct local networks of individuals, ostensibly centered around an interest, hobby, or other mutual affiliation (churches, civic groups, etc). Dont worry about redpilling, at least not the 'harder to swallow' pills (the jews and theholocaust, for example), just focus on networking and affecting/displaying Natsoc mentality (take your time telling people it is Natsoc, of course). IF the time ever comes where internet/communication is shut down, you'll have plenty of opportunity to fill in the blanks. Until then, connect with people and foster beneficial and conducive relationships while as anon said, get as /ub/ as you can.

>>302378
I'm sure plenty would be keen to dismiss what I'm about to say as victim blaming and other epithets, but Hitler was not hateful in the basic sense. His (legitimate) hatred for jews was reactionary, based on being faced with the multitude of Jewish agendas, narratives, and manipulations, and what it had done to his homeland and its people. Ergo, his hatred was reactionary, not pro-actionary; he wasnt raised hateful, he became so with cause.
Outside of their deliberate corruption and destruction of his society and people, he wouldnt have given 2 shits about the jews.

the greatest difficulty I have had in redpilling normalfags is the stage where they accept most premises I've put forth, but cannot commit to White Ideology due to perceptions of social undesirability - not in terms of being offensive, in terms of imagery like this, and you'll note it's a crude edit of an old fatlus meme. while there are many difficult-to-solve reasons as to this perception, such as the association with degeneracy like anime, there is luckily a fairly easy counterbalance we can strike by simply editing the fatlus images right back, depicting those leftists - who are almost always the kind of degenerates these memes depict - in a manner that criticizes them on normalfag emotional terms.

>>302396
To appeal to the greatest number of people the broadest strategies can be used.
>Video supplement.
https://youtu.be/yLnElHtPF24
To help normal people see what is going on tell them that
Anti-Whites follow a simple rule:
If it helps whites it's bad
If it hurts whites it's good
They and you can match patterns of behavior so they too will know what is going on.
If they ask what motivates Anti-Whites, Jealousy, Envy, Hatred.
The JQ at this introductory level can be too shocking, and they are pushed away by mental structures already in place.
Either way, the broadness of Anti-White guidelines also ensures most of the (((problem))) and accounts for specificity, are made noticeable.
With these introductory steps people will be able to identify and learn of underlying behavior. So that it won't be "that's stupid" or "they're just idiots" or even "that's just what (x) does".
There are actively hostile forces at play, and the NPCs that pretend to feel.
That goal they have can be extrapolated into shows, to demonstrate the reason why it's supported (at the time, or even unopposed) by Anti-whites.
So memes as a vector to inoculate are viable, so are ones that expose this fundamental difference. IOTBW showed the Anti-White behavior.
The memes that would help defend and rally others that also are somewhat normalfag friendly is lacking. So are ties to the past (that are also normal friendly).
The tightknit groups have variations of that to different degrees of success. Every group that has lost that eventually collapses

>>301854
This is also my philosophy. When the commies say "all art is political" they're not wrong though they'll then go on to deny that LGBBQ representation is "political". A work that promotes self-reliance, traditional living and defense against subversion is naturally "right-wing" and pushes viewers in that direction; one that creates and "solves" a perceived frailty in that framework will be subversively left-wing. Ironically this means that yesterday's leftist subversion (such as one which promotes racial equality by poking irreverent jokes at everyone's expense) can no longer be tolerated. However, right-wing works like Lord of the Rings or Samurai Jack speak to eternal truths/principles and will never die. Making this sort of art helps our cause, even if it's not commercially successful this generation. Two problems: production is financially/time intensive and it can be difficult to find enough of the right talent that isn't a former Tumblrite. A stop-gap solution is "reverse deconstruction" whereby you find right-wing meaning behind a work that's not totally pozzed and generate content that may redpill its fans.
>you cannot really deny that he has a point that overpopulation can become a problem
Obviously the message worked on you, then. >>301877 is right.
The problem is not population itself but the overall quality of the population. A multicultural hellhole with declining IQ will fall behind and can keep up only if more people with higher IQ are crammed in, whereas a uniform country with a high and stable IQ will tend to do well regardless of how many people there are. Hollywood wants you to think that overpopulation is a problem that must be curtailed before Thanos-snapping becomes necessary; they do not want you to think the same way about eugenics.

>>302396
I must emphasize the necessity of abandoning "mass politics" as a viable solution. You will never be able to turn the average normie into a supporter until the war's already decided. Extremely non-kosher ideas like White Ideology or the JQ can be discussed only in "inner circles" that exclude the unworthy. Those outside these circles must instead be made to support us indirectly, whether through supporting edgy humor, embracing a sort of civic/multi-racial nationalism, or engaging in hobbies that are anti-left though nominally apolitical. Don't expect them to lead a revolution, but they can be helpful support when the time finally comes. Most of them will be cringe by holding to half-measures from either inability or choice, but some of them are better able to pursue intellectual advances by avoiding spicy topics. The guys at the Mises Institute are very much pro-Christian/Catholic traditionalism and self-determination for whites even though they don't explicitly support white identitarianism. Truths pair with truths and a half-redpilled guy is better than none.

>>303069
>pic
It has been FIXED.
The subversion is gassed.

>>303098
Wunderbar. However, if you've still got the image manipulation program open, it might go over better if you place "employs vile subversive techniques" in place of "jewy techniques;" getting hit with "it's (((the jews)))" on the first phrase most people will look to might turn people off of it. Just my two bits, everything else is looking good to this poner.

>>303099
The legends stay. But following your idea I reordered them.

>>303098
>>303101
Thanks!
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>>303077
>Don't expect them to lead a revolution, but they can be helpful support when the time finally comes.
if they have a genuine desire to improve I understand you, but those that do not are mere untermensch and I have no desire to associate them - of this particular lower breed I think practically no help can be expected in any situation, least of all violent ones which require physical strength, and less time wasted fapping to degenerate anime and playing brain-rotting videogames. to say that these are anti-left is fair only for now, as we know well that they are in fact being turned to their purposes (which it was always vulnerable to, being a hive of LGBT degeneracy and countless instances of the worst jewish propaganda that needs to be completely wiped off the face of the earth). that is to say, something that was so filthy and impure to begin with was never inherently anti-left, and will become rabidly pro-left in short order.

It might be time to try and spread this book far and wide. I didn't want to say it, because it was written by Chomsky, who was a whingeing leftist. But that might make it more palatable to those whom are currently favored by it (the MSM). I wouldn't recommend reading it on your own by the way; which is why I'm posting it here and not /mlpolit/.

Why does the contemporary left censure blackface so much? I'd argue that it's not because it's offensive, most of what they claim to be offensive is just an excuse to go on the offensive themselves and attack someone (any more offensive than when Dave Chappelle did whiteface, anyway). It's because it outs them as the oppressor they claim to hate. Their all-consuming guilt complexes disallow them to stand the idea that they're just perpetuating the misery they accuse everyone else of generating or sustaining through whatever whacked out narrative they came up with du jour. From a calculated standpoint, if you want to show people (not necessarily themselves, but that would help) just how wrong they are, you might consider every once in a while calling them "massa" or "overseer."

>>305778
Political Ponerology explains even further. It's all about the ideology not about the reality.
Infact the whole point is to infect, control, dominate and coerce. Through structures, laws, harassment and every possible means to do so.
It is impossible for any positive growth to occur within the mentally infected zone. That's partly why mass media has such a large sway and the prioritization of having it under their thumb.
In that area there is only us vs them, and it's all or nothing. Once declared a 'them' they are an enemy through and through.
It's part of why the left eats their own eventually. It's a climb to be the most extreme representative of that ideology. And the ones that use the created schmucks for their own gain.

So (because of their fucked up mental and possible spiritual faculties) they have to destroy and subvert and corrupt everything else because that is the only way for them to have full control and (((peace))).
Especially nature, truth and reality. That's why removing beauty is a high priority for them. Only they get to decide what is beautiful (or true, or just, or right, or wrong, or allowed ect).

>>305778
They don't want people to know jews invented and popularized blackface.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/vAAAtqSeRKI/

>>305781
>Infact the whole point is to infect, control, dominate and coerce. Through structures, laws, harassment and every possible means to do so.
>So (because of their fucked up mental and possible spiritual faculties) they have to destroy and subvert and corrupt everything else because that is the only way for them to have full control and (((peace))).
>Especially nature, truth and reality. That's why removing beauty is a high priority for them. Only they get to decide what is beautiful (or true, or just, or right, or wrong, or allowed ect).
Something I've been meditating on for a little while. How do we stop such a deconstructive force? One that recognizes perceptions of beauty come from those in power, and then misapply it based on the flawed logic they tell themselves, something like "someone's going to do it, and they will be evil about it, because absolute power corrupts absolutely, so it might as well be us," knowing full well that the more power they accrue, the more they will distort and abuse it and hate themselves, which makes them want more as a sort of temporary fix.
I think the answer lies in the recognition that their solution only exacerbates the problem, first off, and second off not only to recognize there's something better, but also what that is. We're caught in somewhat of a postmodernist hell here, with everyone only agreeing on the fact that nobody can agree on anything totally and completely, with that being the only higher-order truth; the robust empirical qualities of science being the most logical answer to everyone's questions on what everyone can agree on secondarily being a natural choice.

What can we do to pull ourselves out of this mess? We're going to have to do away with postmodernism mostly if not as a whole. Most in the /pol/ sphere as of right now thing that means a sort of counter-revolutionary culture, a return to tradition; which is a worthy thing to want to return to. But it's not going to happen at least not in the ways we might expect, because that's the last thing the left is going to allow right now, or ever, really. The left has killed much of what we cherished in the old world. There is a time for mourning, but it (the old world) is as good as gone.
So, for inspiration, we need not look backward, but forward. Believe it or not there's plenty out there to choose from. And the answer alluded to earlier lies in that very fact.
Once more, what has postmodernism achieved? Destroying a lot of the old intellectual, artistic world. That's really not much to boast about, but it really never has been about them at all anyway. The question we need to be asking ourselves instead is, "what has it given or presented to us?"

The fracturing of modernist narratives isn't entirely a bad thing; it's left behind a lot of useful things to work with. We only need to look at them a bit differently before we're able to latch onto those intellectual tethers and pull ourselves toward something we might better understand; so that we might later be able to disagree to agree, rather than completely whiff on the chance to agree to disagree, as a lot of leftists are doing right now.
I think the answer lies first in taking seriously what we used to make fun of; that being that while it's nice to have a joke here and there, when it comes down to it, we need to take things reverently, especially about ourselves; since, we (or someone else) are the ones that have to live with the things we make jokes about. (We really need to ask ourselves how far we're willing to take the joke... Are we willing to have our whole lives be one big comedy?) That means the closing out of an ironic age. And, with that being completed in competent fashion, starting to build upon that foundation by taking on more of a direct realist attitude about the world.

Pic related to me, describes somewhat of a fallacy. The text reads, "This is not a pipe," the artist would then go on to say "And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not?" But who's to say? How do we refer to it? Most people, if asked, would likely say "it's a pipe," but they would back up that claim with "but in a picture."
And were we fighting dragons in Skyrim or "2D projections of digital assets that were represented by something inspired by mythical creatures that don't exist," or even less reverently "pixels on a screen?" Who's to say, really, that what we do in an abstract space, be it "real" assets in cyberspace or even simply thinking about it, aren't real? Going by the logic set forth by postmodernism itself, who says we can't, as a single movement in a sea of disagreeable movements, say that two or more syncrestist, eclectic, somewhat contradictory ideas can't be simultaneously real? Is a virtual machine really any less real than something running on bare metal? It can do all the same things, can't it? Maybe on one or two levels of abstraction. On an OS that's running on bare metal, without which the world as we know it would stop. How much more real must it get before we call it as such? What would that mean for artistic and intellectual and religious movements, should they be destroyed?

To defeat postmodernism, we must recognize that the old world is gone, take it and ourselves seriously, see the tethers of a new world left behind by the fragmentation of the old, and heave ourselves and society forward using those very real abstracted ideas.

>>305977
>Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Through the lens of everyone being a 'one mankind' human, that suggests to be the case without further digging.
There isn't one mankind (there is, but not in the way that is commonly held), there is mankind and /x/ shit and multiple factors.
>One that recognizes perceptions of beauty come from those in power
What is beautiful is in the eye of the beholder and lots of peer pressure. The typical population have some degree of instinctual inclination towards beauty and learned beauty.
To hold the reigns on nearly all media almost put's the capstone on learned beauty.
>knowing full well that the more power they accrue, the more they will distort and abuse it and hate themselves
That is for people who care and have some semblance of moral consciousness.
Those that don't care and have no moral inclinations have no feelings one way or another in any real depth. They will 'happily' lie, cheat, steal, murder, rape and more on any whim or fancy.
There is no reason for those types of people (and evil systems are memetic blights by their nature all things are worse off in comparison to any non-evil system or people) to not indulge in horrific activities if they have enough power.
Those that have no moral fiber will take the slight of being removed from anything as a deadly attack on their character and life. They will use everything to torturiously end or pervert that group.
The solution to that is quite simple. If we weren't in the thick of things.
Instead three things have to be done accumulating power, removing the blights, and inoculating against blight (ponerogenesis).

So beauty the key fact is that there is some instinctual sense of beauty in at least some of the population. Also the mandated bureau of beauty is anti-fun, it is asinine. They have to plunder beauty to exemplify it and subvert it.
>a return to tradition;
It's possible, but not in the way commonly thought of. To have the traditions means to become one with heros and heroines.
As you've said the world is fractured, the past is fucked to an extent, and evil is around us. It's not in total chaos yet and many have at least a little of something they want to save.
>But who's to say? How do we refer to it?
Systematically the definition is bulky and cumbersome to categorize everything. Post modernism tried to break everything down into quanta (small fundamental pieces) failing that pokes holes using logic and twisted fridge world logic.
The human experience is one of stories and the metaphysical. When you say pic related, I understand that the picture is related to the words about to be said. When the picture is of a pipe that is intended to provide thought of what is a pipe that is a story with deeper meanings.
They've tried to dissect what reality is and they have failed, no closer or deeper or enriched than tens of thousands of years ago on this. Instead they muddy the waters with false wisdom and half logics.

Postmodernism is a symptom of extensive ponerogeneis and our human a drive for stories and metaphysicality. Even if the story is as simple as 'haha printer goes brrrr' or 'ironic' humor. They've dictated the 'majority' to follow them in boxes and patterns. Many people don't want trouble; That's exactly how they want it, because then they can create the trouble for their solutions.

The future is either death in their web or total freedom. The next age is of the neighborly niche a seemingly counterintuitive step. But tight nit communities and other neighborly tight nit communities and individuals pave the future.
The next age is one of heroics in everything. The age of stories.
Because reality is being fucked over hard, objective reality has been butchered by (((them))), reality and stories have been disintegrating into each other (and separating at times) since the beginning.
Their total information campaign, like all things they do, will lead to their failure.

>we must recognize that the old world is gone
It is, but our heroes live. Our stories and tales and fantasies are with us.
Right now what is real and not real is thin, if someone made an Uncle A painting livestream it's taken seriously. That's what has happened time and time again because the blight exists.
Tales, and stories exist along with reality the same type of area (and more).
What has to happen is a rejection of evil genesis at all times, not always with a sword but also with a word (or two) and friendship.

TLDR Hyper(Community)Nationalism is about to occur in full force. History, tales, folklore, news, stories, information, everything has to be held tightly and perfect copies shared almost freely.
Those that want to change for the worse have to be totally and utterly rejected and ejected. Whilst keeping an eye open for backstabing behavior.
>Are we willing to have our whole lives be one big comedy?
It always has been, and only You (and us ect.) can change the punchline, and the madlib inserts.

Power doesn't inherently corrupt. The corrupt just tend to seek out power for fun and profit. The left seek power to abuse it and feel strong. The right needs to seek power to stop the left. Peterson's "radical individualism" is poison. You cannot have western civilization without whites and christianity without christ. A swede and brit might be two different people but the leftist barbarian horde still wants both dead for being white and the swede and brit would have to be retarded to deny this and refuse to work together against the threat to both of their lives and liberties.

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I agree. The conditioning is the lynch pin. Talk to a normie and ask them what do we do if... The. British try to rule us again ? The will say we fight. Ask them what we do if the russians or chinese try and invade? They will say we fight. But ask them what we do if the Jews are trying to invade?..... Crickets. They almost cant think it. Making it conceivable that a highly endogamous group has infiltrated our society and want to sell us all down the river is a tall order and it doesnt help that many people with goldfish like attention spans believe absolute bullshit. They couldnt get away with half of the shit they pull if people knew how to pay better attention. I think uss liberty bait and switches are good, and anything dancing Israeli is also good. 911 is still fresh enough in the minds of many to be of use.