/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>241195
>>241199
OP is right, you know.

Relevant article: https://identitydixie.com/2019/09/02/the-1930s-called-you-didnt-make-the-cut/

>>241195
This. 1950s + 100 years = 2050s?

>>241199
Fuck siege.

>>241212
>>241195
>These people are losers
>losers
Okay commie cunt.

>>241206
>muh skinheads cos' bad optics
KYS. With or without optics NatSoc will be always hated, decades of kike brainwashing won't change lemmings' minds one inch.
While all the comfy normals were trying to be cautious and be nice to not "ruin their future", others carried the swastika flag and gave a fuck about feelings and kikes' laws. It is a no-brainer who deserve respect.

The shilling is strong today.

>>241213
>NatSoc will be always hated
Stop clinging to a century-old ideology that was developed by one man for the particular needs and concerns of Germany at that time. That it, despite its success, was deeply flawed is undeniable and so we must re-invent. If you like it so much you will distill its best features and use them in a more refined ideology.

>video
That just proves my point, you had those marches almost twenty years ago and they did not contribute to any meaningful political change and haven't even grown/become more frequent since then. Retard rallies DON'T WORK

>>241216
>Retard rallies DON'T WORK
So? If the guys want their rally, so be it.
>they did not contribute to any meaningful political change
Then read Siege and can back to argue. And don't say you did, because you don't.

>>241217
>If the guys want their rally, so be it.
If you want to smoke pot and speed on the highway, so be it. I can't physically stop you, only tell you how stupid of an idea that is.
>read Siege
It's on my reading list but that's not an argument. You can read some very intelligent people, learn rhetoric, and convince enough people to build a movement, or you can sign up to some "activist" group, get doxxed and harassed, and be an untouchable to someone who'd otherwise be sympathetic toward your views.

>>241195
>Siege was written by a satanist
OP is so centered on dialectical materialism that it doesn't grasp Epona's mysticism or other deities.

>>241222
Digits confirm.

>>241216
>contribute to any meaningful political change
Read the damned book and find out.
All your verbal hemorrhage can find an answer in Siege. It is right there commie. Read it and join us.

>>241224
I have a long reading list and Siege is at least a hundred pages. Why don't "read Siege" folks quote relevant passages?

>>241226
Telling people to read a whole book is deflection. It shows that you don't understand the concept enough to provide an argument. If I tell a commie his economics don't work, and he tells me "Read Kapital," it's not deflecting if I refuse.

If public no-optics-required rallies have resulted in positive change for our side it ought to be visible. Please, show me the evidence.

>>241227
Just a little. Yes?
Soon you'll find out we want the same, but just through different paths.

>>241228
I'll read it next time I'm on an airplane. I doubt anything bad could come from that.

>just through different paths
If we both want to cross a river and I want to use a rickety bridge, while you want to blow it up and try to walk across the rubble, we must be at odds. For if I try to cross at the same time you blow it up, I will be killed. It could only work if we both choose to cross the bridge or if we both wait to blow it up.

>>241195
Couldn't agree more OP the main problem is that they help enable the leftist pardadime and system by reinforcing the "danger" the right wing has towards their system by projecting it as a danger the right wing has to human kind. Thus by siegefags trying to break the system they enable it even more. Terrorism never works unless it has backers in high places, which the right wing doesn't. We need to build infrastructure, not try and take pot shots at our enemies.

>>241230
>Terrorism never works
To begin with, siegefags terrorized no one. Some might have some personal disagreements which were taken too far, but nothing else.

>>241231
>siegefags terrorized no one
I'll save you some trouble, the "book"'s (its more of a conglomeration of essays) end conclusion is terrorism is the only viable alternative to break modernity. Oh that and being edgy. Now you should see why its generally popular with those who like to have videos list of talking points for them...

>>241232
>terrorism is the only viable alternative to break modernity

Historically (and in more primitive environments) that might work. But in a more and more police state type world you'll be spotted before any organising can happen. The remaining path is the lone sperg, who will be dead or captured in a few hours. The West isn't Iraq. This means the plan needs to be such that it isn't open to being shut down in a modern surveillance society. Which means it needs to be legal. In addition no amount of killing others stops white women killing white babies with the Pill. And lastly any gain brought by violence would have to make a non-democratic environment, thereby anti-Western, and two degrades civilisation, thereby also anti-Western. And dictatorships end badly, always.

Blowing up bridges was a good analogy, destroying the structure of society.

The maths says whites will become a minority because they don't have kids. Everything else is just a sperg-out of a dying race if they refuse to have kids. And the resulting reactions of others to a sperg-out dying race will be: "Good!".

No babies, no future. All other actions have zero value.

>>241235
The reason why Nazi memes/NatSoc ideology can be so popular is because it appeals to both good and evil people. And then the whole group can be judged by outsiders as all good or all evil. It is almost useless as a reference because it covers so much ground.

>>241234
Pretty much, however the problem goes deeper then the lack of children, it in general has to do with a general break down of the mannerism in which leads to higher fertility. I recently found some videos that does a good epogenetic explanation of why this may be the case, however in general I think that you don't need biology to explain that strong values in family lead to higher fertility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4-Od8cq5Gk&list=PLXTePDlKDQfSduqPdJ4ZUMDCz_u_k7Uu6
I'd highly recommend this channel although alt hyp does a good job in his videos explaining similar phenomenon of what causes these mannerism to appear. So does Spengler in a non-scientific sense if your willing to go through it all in Decline of the West. Its interesting they all come to a similar conclusion that Cesareism is the most likely outcome to emerge from this general degradation of values.

But back to Siege culture. Terrorism will fix nothing. It will only make our problems in the long run worse. So taking siege culture seriously is stupid.

>>241237
Civilisation and Nature are opposites. Generally this is good. But a basic part of Nature is reproduction. If civilisation gives more and more activities besides baby making/raising, which are more fun/engaging, then civilisation has become so removed from Nature that it stops making its future.

What is better, changing diapers, or computer games and shitposting? This is Spengler's decline.

The more primitive the society the more it breeds, maths favours them.

And all up this is the civilisation cycle.

Nice pic. I'll take that.

>>241238
>What is better, changing diapers, or computer games and shitposting? This is Spengler's decline
It can be reversed by forced duty at baby farms.

>>241238
Ah good you've read Spengler then, carry on.

To everyone else, don't read Siege, read Decline of the West.

>>241239
The place that springs up is the place that will be invaded by the good other nations fighting against institutionalised mass rape. The system needs to financially advantage baby making. A nation should pay baby making/child raising. Those not making babies should be baby-taxed, that funds the baby makers.

The ultimate service to a nation/race/culture is motherhood. It is the root of everything else. Womens lib, was liberation from motherhood/birth. ie. Death.

Back in the 1920's pregnancy was a health risk and an economic risk, contraception was a good idea under those circumstances. But this liberated women (the car also) and as humans always do this was pushed all the way to the edge (Lets not have babies at all and get jobs!). We have addressed the health risks now, we need to address the economic risks. And get back to a balance between 1920s pregnancy/economic fears and 2020s population collapse.

Motherhood should be a valid paying career equal to having a job. The state should pay for their service to the nations future. And should tax those not participating in making that future and pass it onto those who are. Thereby everyone is directly or indirectly making the future nation/race/civilisation. Thus ending the cycle or rise and collapse.

>>241243
Also WW2 got women into factories so men could kill each other overseas. They liked the independence and kept it up afterwards. Good job, men.

>>241239
>It can be reversed
Rome didn't reverse this, China didn't reverse this, India didn't reverse this, Egypt didn't reverse this. All were indaded and their peoples replaced with others. Already the "whites" of Western Europe are becoming more and more Eastern European. The likelyhood of us reversing this trend is near zero, the city is a vehical of destruction and men are men of the city now, weak and infertile. Women take after this.

>>241243
>Motherhood should be a valid paying career
When life must be taken into a cost benift analysis, rather then something intuitively lived it is already a drain. Men and women of the world cities see life as a problem that they cannot solve, even if you taxed those who did not have children, why would they give birth to one who will suffer and never have a chance in their minds? The obvious answer is that even if this policy is eventually implemented (Rome did something like it I don't doubt the West will) it in all likleyhood won't work.

>>241245
Is the Black Pill avoidable? Does the civilization cycle have an exit?
If there is no exit are we supposed to accept the future is always grim?
Spengler would say embrace it, it is unchangeable. Can we be smart enough to break the cycle?

>>241246
>Does the civilization cycle have an exit
If it does its centertainly not policy implemented top down, but rather must be bottom up transition of values, which I find unlikely but part of me strives for.

You see the other thing is, and I'm not so certain of this, but I think besides Slavs, the Latin American world is slowly becoming a high culture. If you do not wish to live in a decline and wish to live as part of something to give birth to a new world feeling then you only need move there to realize the true potentials of this more primative but beutiful spring world feeling. Otherwise I generally agree that those of the west who can be considered men must stand rank and file and let ourselves be destroyed by history while living our lifes to the fullest and mocking fate.

>>241247
How far does the destruction go? Will increasing immigration want to sustain science, capitalism, democracy and Christian values? Or will they replace it.

>>241248
>destruction go
>increasing immigration
Most the the destruction is self inflicted. Democracy will likely die in Cesearism, our science in the second religiousness, capitalism in the declining trade due to Cesears and local men of power limiting it to consolidate their own. Also I stand with Nietzsche when I say in the west, God is mainly dead, we have long since killed him in our hearts. The only things I think if we're replaced (which I think is likely) that those who replace us will hold onto will be Christianity (but they'll move the importance away from ascension and towards something else) and parts of our technology that they find useful (computation in the Slavic world will remain since it works well with their world feeling.)

>>241249
It was fun while it lasted.

>>241250
Well, we still have a bit of time left, hopefully accerationfags don't ruin the ride for all of us trying to enjoy it.

There's one thing we can do on the way out. Put as much Aryan DNA in as many women as possible of any type, without leaving valid contact details.

>>241252
Except kikes
Just cum on their face and take a picture to spread around
Jewettes deserve public humiliation

>>241253
I understand the comment, but are you missing the opportunity to dilute their line? Genetic invasion!

>>241254
It would dilute our line as well.

Now that I think on it, I'm not even sure if one can make mutts out of Jews...

>>241254
>are you missing the opportunity to dilute their line?
On the contrary, Jews survive mixing their blood with the host population at least once every 7 generations according to the book "The Mystery of the Serpent". A video reviewing it:
>REVEALING THE SATANIC SERPENT RACE August 18, 2014. By Dr. James P. Wickstrom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-rxqILLNHQ
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zBoJZc11XNyI/

>>241258
>mixing their blood with the host population at least once every 7 generations
Jump to around 30:30 for details.

>>241257
Our line is dying out due to lack of babies. If we won't breed what is left? This isn't 1939, this is post 1960s Pill.

>>241259
There is a little to much crazy mixed up in there for me.

>>241261
Research the speaker, he is a legend.

>>241263
Looks like he suits Siege mentality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wickstrom

>>241235
>no National Socialist imagery of dark
Didn't the SS have skull emblems?

Damn alot of you guys in this thread have already given up the fight you arent going to change anything being blackpilled and talking about how everything is over

>>241270
The pragmatic viable strategy is? It isn't a choice to give up, it's all doors seem to be closed. Change my mind?

>Crap thread that belongs in the trash, devolves into recommendations to act like a nigger and pump 'n dump everyone and also literally fuck jews.
Go back to whatever festering hellhole you crawled out of, faggots.

>>241275
>horsepussy
>degenerate
Literally where the fuck do you think you are?

>>241195
>g

I don't know that Siege Culture is inherently destructive- and even if it is, is that a bad thing? You say that the movement must be constructive, must build something, but to construct something sturdy you must first raze the site to the ground. You wouldn't try to build a new building on top of the rotten corpse of an old barn and just hope it would stand strong.

I will say that a lot of these Siegefags don't even seem to have read the book. It is explicitly stated not to waste your time and your life on random edgelord shit if you're thinking of going loud. The problem isn't the book, it's random losers trying to justify their own suicidal and 'remember me' bullshit using it.

>>241276
In a place that allows that type of degeneracy. Further demonstrating the state of Western Civilization.

>>241271
You have a losers mentality no strategy is going to save you from that

>>241281
You deflected the question. Hope is not a strategy.

>>241279
Human porn, blacked human porn, fetish human porn, all of this is degenerate.
Pone porn is art of the ideal, the desirable, the exaggerated and impossibly perfect. Art of the perfect pony waifu fucking you or a character that represents you another character you like with all she's got. And when it's not ideal, it's shit.
Jewish porn wants to desensitize you to sex.
Pone porn celebrates it through art.

>>241195
This is an issue that is seen in our circles but almost rarely gets discussed. The book itself I think is a decent read such as Mason's discussion of the history of the American Movement from the Death of Rockwell to Joseph Tommasi. Fundamentally the issue at hand in which Mason stresses to the reader is that there will and there will never be a political solution or peaceful political way to our goal as national socialists. Now there are parts of the book involving Mason's obsession with Charles Manson. On the surface it seems really edgy and weird like why the fuck would a self proclaimed national socialist hold in high regard some loony murderer. The prime reason for this obsession is the Manson family's goal of starting a race war by killing a bunch of people and using idiotic hippie logic. That doesn't really resonate with most well to do people but remember, Siege is just a collection of semi-monthly articles given to people within the movement at the time. The man himself is questionable and I think is going senile now a days but his ideas on violence are legitimate. Do you think that we as National Socialists can even peacefully attempt our goals? Is there a future within the very system that wishes for our own destruction? Why would a system allow something that wishes to destroy it into it? That is the questions that come into the main argument and issue presented. The issue is not James Mason, Not with Atomwaffen (By the way all the decent guys left that organization long ago, ever since Rape got control of it its just been a homo orgy and satanic sex cult fuck all of them), Not with the book Siege. The prime issue is a political solution vs. a violent struggle against the system.

In the words of William Luther Pierce, "White revolution is the only Solution!." Before you call me a fed let me propose a few things. Suppose a few white communities begin to separate from the system, suppose some "conservative" party gains control over the system for a few years, suppose a popular right wing organization gets popular, what then? Do you or anyone propose we act, move, talk and cooperate within the very system that wishes to destroy us? As the white population percentage continues to plummet and more and more rights are surrendered as the world begins to form into a cultureless, materialistc, degenerative brown blob ruled by an ruthless international clique. Do you say, "well at least I can say nigger on my online imageboard or speak like a boomer and say "That hasn't and will never happened here I live in white flight area blah blah." Even with all this if for say a National Socialist movement can even gain popularity with the masses would you wish to build upon the ruins of the old world? Returning to tradition while still having the Walmart down the road and the superstores with cheap imports? The slate remains unclean. Building a National Socialist future on the ground of the modern world will result in a bastardization of our National Socialist ideals.

One thing all American National Socialists must understand is that the masses will never support our movement, let alone understand in the modern age. The only solution to build our new progressive society, one which seeks for the betterment of its Racial stock, one in which the race is the state cares for its people and has the nation act as one large family. One which seeks to labor and build magnificent cities and create tremendous works of western art. One which seeks to get off the cradle of mankind and touch the stars. That is what us national Socialists wish to create, craft and build. In order to build that society requires that we put a torch to our modern world. Wipe the slate clean. The time has come for an end to debate with our racial enemies, no more intellectuals and podcasters. No more political ambitions or fantastic party programs. The time calls for whites to prepare for a struggle to create the future we want or sit ideally by and watch the world slowly transform into something irreplaceable. Now that's what should be discussed and debated.

I donno though, maybe its time to just relegate ourselves to the internet and just wait for VR technology to get to the point where we can live our fantasies of going to equestria and blissfully ignore the outside world. If anything, a struggle is going to happen whether you believe in a peaceful or violent solution. The difference is if you choose to vote or if you vote with your Ar-15.

>>241285
Does a white utopia have the Pill? Why does all discussion act like it is 1939, and fail to address that the white replacement rate is ... not replacement.

Who is going to take the Pill from white women and jail black market seller of it?

>>241287
Will white women be thankful?

End pensions, suddenly kids are the only answer to old age security for a typical employed couple (who can't save enough).

>>241287
People think too much about women. Women will always follow whatever man seems dominate. There is no reason to restrict shit like contraceptives. As long as the philosophy of child bearing for the future of the nation is taught to them and expanded upon through racial education its all good nigga. Besides,down the road of the racial tree will come eugenics anyway if we don't fuck up anything along the way. NO MORE AUTISTIC CHILDREN FAGS

>>241290
I agree with the kraut. Contraceptives are a major reason for modern attitudes towards sex. The topic of contraceptives deserves its own thread.

>>241291
What's wrong with this thread? The sperg/non-sperg debate is over. Gov/Mil/Police tech make any "grass roots" actions dead.

So lets discuss how to have replacement rates AND control over one's fate. The idea that women will just follow is dated and obsolete. What incentive is needed to have people have babies? What would make (YOU) raise 3 kids?

A couple can have 2 wages and 2 dependants; or
1 wage and 3+ dependants.

What does logic suggest they will choose? Bear in mind they have to also compete in the housing market.

>>241292
>What would make (YOU) raise 3 kids?
My duty to the white race makes me want to have at least 5, but I am aware that not everyone is as much of a fanatic as I am. We could offer incentives such as mortgage forgiveness or a year of free tuition per child.

>>241294
>My duty to the white race makes me want to have at least 5
>want
Will you?

>but I am aware that not everyone is as much of a fanatic as I am.
Passion is unreliable and can fade.

>We could offer incentives such as mortgage forgiveness
Too much. Children probably cost less to raise. Also the gov paying peoples homes is nearly socialism.

>or a year of free tuition per child.
too small.

I'd also up the benefits a few percent, each additional child, to encourage the next leap.

It needs no book to realize that the judeo communist world order needs to be Destroyed by any means necessary. You may not like the book, its author or its fanbase. but they are (for better or worse) part of the alt right and are here to stay.
Asymmetric Warfare against a totalitarian society and its enablers is nothing new and this target rich environment is literally begging to get taken advantage of by people who want to take matters in their own hands.

>>241295
>Too much. Children probably cost less to raise. Also the gov paying peoples homes is nearly socialism.
You wouldn't have to pay off the entire home for one child. You could just pay for part of the home.

>too small.
Maybe have this is part of the deal.

>I'd also up the benefits a few percent, each additional child, to encourage the next leap.
Absolutely. More children = more benefits. We should also be encouraging our best and brightest to have more children while discouraging those with poor genetics from reproducing.

>>241225
The read siege meme, the reed seej maymay, is a lot more powerfull and relevant than the actual book, which is a bit shit and i have never finished reading.
Read siege basically means that violence obsoletes arguements

>>241297
Thankfully the pill and abortions mean that retards already sterilise themselves and now females are selected for actually being pro fertility and motherhood, instead of the genetically degenerating model of every cunt spawning tardlets
Intelligent men that want to breed will realise the situation and have as many children as they can
Finally the situation requires intelligence and the desire to actually have children again, so those are the traits that will pass on and be selected for
That and people too dumb to even use contraceptives

The good thing is that blackedpilled idiot germans that cant breed even in modern environments where fertile white women will offer their pussies up without even the cost of marriage will have their no hope cuck genes die out while chads that dont care will cream every womb they can find

The end of every civilisation cycle is the return to nature and barbarism
The return to the natural behavior of men and women, which is sex and violence
Cry all you like about losing acces to your precious pony porn, the system sieges itself and will collapse
Once law enforcement fails undesirables will be hunted into extinction

Civilisation is a cage and the death of our imprisonment is the life of man

Start implementing what you believe in, there is no need to convince anyone, just act and organise on your own however you like

>Vril's back at it again with the blackpill posting
Vril, with all due respect, stop posting and take a break outside. From the person who once advocated for the Struggle, your antics as of late have been uniquely tiresome.

And, for the record, the government using taxpayer dollars to make child bearing a viable career is just as socialist as government-subsidized housing.

For all others, do not despair. It is our enemy's greatest weapon against us. They want us to hide and separate ourselves from the rest of the world: they don't want us to be able to expose their lies and show the Truth to our people. Yes, the Struggle seems so much worse now than it ever has in our history, but that is because we are the ones to face it. No longer are we reading about the National Socialists and their Struggle against the Weimar Republic. This is now our Struggle against the modern Weimar Republic. History has repeated itself because we did not learn from our mistakes, and now like Hitler and the National Socialists we must put an end to the degeneracy we have allowed to rot and fester.

Get out there, into the Meatspace, and begin to Struggle together. Yes, it is risky, as there are Feds out there who will try to stop us, but not doing anything is letting them get their way. Form a party, help the people, show them that there is a Third Way, one separate from the Libshits and Cuckservatives that have held power now for decades. Face all this world has to throw at you with honor, integrity, and an iron will. You will not convince all of our people in the first day, but you will convince some. You will have saved them, and yet still there will remain many others who can yet be saved. They are your people, your Volk, not your enemy. Have hope that things can and will get better, so long as we continue to Struggle.

>>241295
How about tax breaks for families that have good and healthy white kids?
So the drunken sugar-addicted "parents" of crackbabies will pay comparatively more tax, meaning the need to find a genetically healthy partner able to carry a baby to term without gangbangs or weed becomes a priority in the sexual marketplace.

>>241298
>Thankfully the pill and abortions mean that retards already sterilise themselves
The pill is used by people who have the ability to plan and want to rely having children. Usually these are smarter people. The pill is selective pressure against intelligence.

>>241301
Delay having children*

>>241296
>pic
This! Exterminating the cubs is key.

Most of you guys didnt kill a man before, yet talk about mass murder and the slaughter of children like its nothing.
Do you realize this Is the kind of shit the left desires? For the right to look like this so they can label us as madmen that will kill everyone, so the mindless masses will follow like a hundread scared monkeys.

Why dont you guys hit >>>/üb/ for some actually useful stuff instead of wasting time on this fantasy?
Or do you really believe it is a good idea or an achievable one to take this kind of extreme measure considering our current situation?
Have a productive discussion about the nature of the enemy and make a plan that can actually be executed within the límits of our resources, leave fantasy for D&D.

>>241234
It was not a requirement, or inevitable that borders would be opened up, that was policy, specifically what Celler spent his whole life trying to do. Were the borders closed You'd see a precipitous decline of the left, and the urban centers would either rot or have to take population from rural areas. Wages would rise, there would be more opportunity for Americans, politics would shift incredibly rightwards, and the white women having children would obviously replace the white women not. Our country is the third most populous on the planet, A lack of people is not what we suffer from.

>>241285
>The prime issue is a political solution vs. a violent struggle against the system.
This is the problem, people view this as the dichotomy as if one must read either Fox News or Siege. These are not the only options, and this is why this thread >>236858 → was created. One can rebel against and destroy a system which one hates without any overt violence.

>>241278
>to construct something sturdy you must first raze the site to the ground
Not by any stretch. A degenerative system will break down and destroy itself, but if an alternative system is not nascent within it already chaos will prevent anything positive for a long while. This is why Christianity saved civilization, because what kept Roman customs, literature, technology, and law from being lost was diligent recording by Church monasteries. Foundation is a great guide to surviving civilizational death, even if Asimov was Jewish. Build an institution that is not overtly competitive to the government (because it will be shut down ASAP) but which provides some semblance of civilization after major societal collapse.

To go back here >>241285:
>By the way all the decent guys left that organization long ago, ever since Rape got control of it its just been a homo orgy and satanic sex cult fuck all of them
What do you expect with an organization that glorifies violence? Do you really think it was going to attract high-minded, moral people? Any organization that says "by any means necessary" is going down a dark path because those within it implicitly detach themselves from morality and accept any sort of behavior. It also attracts low-IQ spergs who want to lash out at society and are very easy to lead astray.

>Building a National Socialist future on the ground of the modern world will result in a bastardization of our National Socialist ideals.
National Socialism is inherently modernist. You can just look at the language you use:
>new progressive society
>betterment of its Racial stock
>the race is the state cares for its people and has the nation act as one large family
>build magnificent cities and create tremendous works of western art
>get off the cradle of mankind and touch the stars
>Wipe the slate clean
>an end to debate with our racial enemies, no more intellectuals and podcasters
You are a utopian idealist who thinks you can just kill those you hate and society will magically become better. You do not realize that society is built by tradition which grows organically as groups respond to events.

>>241296
>part of the alt right
/mlpol/ is not "alt right" and never has been

>>241299
Your proselytization, ironically, reminds me of Seventh Day Adventists

>>241324
You guys complain so much about niggers and formulate such lenghty arguments about the nature of your cause just to devolve into the same violence and muh dick tactics you so despise about their race.
Is this really the full extent of our intellect? To resort to violence once we cant formulate a proper solution? To follow a lone gunman with no plans whatsoever instead of formulating one of our own?
Anon, please.

>>241195
>Siege was written by a satanist and a convicted pedophile named James Mason.

So if a satanist and convicted pedophile writes that radiation cause cancer...

then it is false...

nice FALLACY you used there dude.

>>241329

a Final solution

>>241333
If Siege was written by a Jew, would you still be advocating it?
Author bias is a fallacy but it is a heuristic used because there is too much information to process entirely, so we pick out what seems promising. This is why it is practically mandatory to live a moral life if you want your ideas to find root, because a bad tree cannot usually produce good fruit.

>>241339

There are texts about how arsenic is venomous to human beings written by a jew.

if you want to eat arsenic because a jew said it is venom then be my guest

>>241334
I dont see anything addressing the numerous problems of this matter in your post.
How can we solve it if we're not in possition to do such thing in the first place?

>>241329
he was smart enough to be our fuhrer and if he knew there was a political solution he wouldn't have spent all those years pre-planning his manifesto and the attack,

he knew there was no solution politically because the jew has made a counter insurgency to prevent any form of a nationalist party from being a political party and the jew will do everything with his shekels to remove anyone that tries to oppose him through the political system so we have to carefully plan our future with the best interests of our race in our mind even if we have to resort to violence it will still allow us to be able to save our race instead of being a cuck and being btfo by the system which completely opposes all forms of nationalism and you will end up without a home and the party you've been working on will cease to exist
violence is the only solution we have to stop our race from being abolished because their can be no one to abolish our race if there is no one to abolish our race

do you really believe no one has tried to make a nationalist party before and that somehow a political party will come available and the jew will let you sit on you're ass and just vote for this party and not do anything in meatspace that involves you getting you're hands dirty?

>>241327
>/mlpol/ is not "alt right" and never has been

and that is part of the problem. Alt right is a doorway to more redpilled stuff for many people.

if you say mlpol is NS then i believe it is not altright

but if you say mlpol is not altright nor NS then what it is?? zionism?

if i as an NS attack the guys from altright instead of supporting the good points they have among some i consider bad then i am not building anything and just going againt my white brothers.

altright is just another step . this ladder started to be walked long ago.

in fact all the nazi ponies and aryanne pics and all was started by people that then called themselves "altbrony" and where nazis and compared the Equestria Utopia to an ethno nationalist country one.

then mlpol came just as another place for polacs to gather and expose different ideas from communism to strasserism. and many that posted nazi ponies did it as a joke.

while many of us are really NS, RW, WN , etc.

all the people here just must accept Hitler was right. or go to the camps.

inb4 cucks and lefties triggered.

>>241342 you are right my comrade!

>>241340
Believe it or not there are people who think that way, hence why climate alarmists will claim any counter-argument comes from "an oil shill" in order to avoid addressing them. The more radical the ideas you preach the more pure you must appear to the public, because any flaw can and WILL be used to defame you. On the other hand, if your opponents can latch only onto superficial faults (such as a speech inflection), non-NPCs will see they have nothing on you and admire you more as a result.

>>241342
>no solution politically
See >>236858 →. Stop buying into this false dichotomy! Jews want you to either set up a party or go on a shooting spree because they can control you on one hand and denounce you on the other. Think outside the box.

>>241343
"alt-right" is just a buzzword and it may have meant something once but means nothing now. I am a dissident and that is a far more accurate and descriptive label. Besides that I do not buy into labels nor is national socialism the answer to everything.

>all the people here just must accept Hitler was right.
I consider him a nuanced human being who generally tried his best and was fairly successful but missed the mark in some respects. Is that good enough?

>>241342
Ultraviolence will lead you nowhere you mongrel, if anything it will only empower the left, you cant possily win by using violent means if youre not stronger than your enemies in the first place.
What's your plan?
What resources do you have?

Also Hitler first joined the nazi party, then attempted to take on by violent means; When this failed he climbed to power legally.

My issue is not violence in itself, my issue is this kind of mindless appeal to violence, without substance there Is nothing to back it up, just a gamble.

>>241346

you are right. but using the term "mongrel" to a fellow comrade that is against zionism just don't seem to be the way to solve things you know.

because we can start to apply fallacy ad hominem and check your flag from southamerica... but as many here use VPN or similar, it will only be a shitstorm without purpose.

>>241352
>but using the term "mongrel" to a fellow comrade
That kind of title should not be handed out to people you dont even know, it would be worthless if we did.
>we can start to apply fallacy ad hominem and
That would be a fallacy fallacy and flag is legit.

>>241222 cool !

i will take my shovel and start to build stuff.

>>241363
as you said, i was wrong to call him "comrade" without even knowing him.
As you are wrong to call him "mongrel".

and as i said i will not call you mestizo latino hispanic brown for being from Uruguay. porque yo se de que va la cosa. Asi que la onda no es insultar al otro chabon porque sino es cualquiera.

>>241345
>Ultraviolence will lead you nowhere you mongrel, if anything it will only empower the left, you cant possibly win by using violent means if you're not stronger than your enemies in the first place.
violence has lead to political victory's in the past with the IRA, they managed to wage attacks without being caught who's to say we have to go public?

violence cannot empower the left because no one that isn't a race traitor listens to the left in the first place because they are seen as ridiculous by everyone
>What's your plan?
i'm crashing this plane with no survivors
>What resources do you have?
you're money and infrastructure has been important, until now

>Also Hitler first joined the nazi party, then attempted to take on by violent means; When this failed he climbed to power legally.
this isn't 1933 anon, this time we are being ethnically cleansed with other races killing our people instead of just jews it is non white invaders seeking to replace us and the jew has put orders in place to prevent national socialism from coming to power without violence, this time we have to resort to guerrilla warfare tactics instead of a peaceful means of solution it is impossible for a peaceful solution to happen again because you will be hunted down and you will be stripped of everything you own if you have any form of power and decide to speak out against the world's jewry

>>241247

many europeans go to Argentina to live in the mountains of Patagonia, there is lopt of land without habitants. But close enough to cities with good hospitals and good white people.

the money exchange is very good for people that go with Euros or Dollars and homes and land are not expensive.

White man can emigrate to new lands and then again build a powerful civilization. It has been done many times. And then when powerful can reclaim what he have lost.

In fact USA would have been that place before world wars and should have helped Germany to eradicate communism.

Nowadays white man can start to populate areas that subhumans don't like because are cold and
far away. and start again. this idea is nor perfect as it is presented here but can be polished

>>241345
>Think outside the box.
Very much this.
There are an endless amount of ways to go about this. With the devil in the details can tactically change nearly any situation.
That doesn't mean disregarding conventional means, but applying them, and creative solutions at the right time, and right place.
Such as gaining resources, and meaningful relationships.
Money (im general) is something they have convinced everyone is theirs alone. Relentlessly attacking, and corrupting the resource to maintain control.
An entrepreneur organizes people, and systems in such a way that the end goal is completed. (Making a super system selfsustaining isn't required, but can be useful.)(Normally cash, but can be anything such as enacting charge.)
Investments enable entrepreneurs, and businesses. It's a loan, a promise for the future and the riches that may provide.
The last one is creation,and utilization of resources.
It's the in-game currency two step buffer. A nearly useless thing.
It's the copper age, bronze age, and industrialization.

Memes are a resource they are trying to kill, and corrupt. It's one that is ours.

We have places dedicated to the truth, and have fun doing so.

Crypto-Currencies are new resources. They try to fully grow, but are hindered.

Exploit their weaknesses, and create knew ones they could not have even dreamed of.

>>241371
Point Taken, but i would rather stick to the board's main language.

>>241372
>who's to say we have to go public?
That's a good point, and to use violence smartly is the right way to go.
Violence without aim could in theory end up empowering the left if they take advantage of such careless display of power.

Still, even if full opsec violence should be carefully planned so the media cant take advantage of it.
>i'm crashing this plane with no survivors
I admit that Is a realistic view, and resources check out.
I can only wish you luck then, anon.

About the last paragraph, Indeed it Is not 1933, our condition is similar but really different.
I do believe violence is necessary but it should be handled carefully so it wont backfire.

I'm just advocating for you to think really good for quite a while before trying to act, make every blow count instead of slapping your opponent mindlessly.

>>241283

YES! i see images like this as art.

>>241279
>In a place that allows that type of degeneracy.
And yet you remain here, in a place whose nature is hostile to your supposed value.
It's almost like you're either here with malicious intent to the host culture; or, more likely, are here because you lost your previous residence and are hoping that the locals will just give up and let you take over so you don't have to do any actual work to create a home of your own.

i like that we can reach a point where we can use both things.
but it reminds me a lot to "fight club" and i don't know if it is good or bad... :c

>>241372
>IRA
The IRA was successful because they were a force aligned with the native culture who were fighting against foreign occupiers. They received covert support from most of the Irish population (domestically and abroad) because they had good PR and were sympathetic. The Provos were less successful (they couldn't take back Northern Ireland) because they were partisans in an area which didn't have the same religion or culture and so were seen as invaders.

Domestic support makes an enormous difference and you'll see that it's what makes or breaks insurgent groups. Were you to choose violence as a WN you could count on very little support regardless of where you started. You would quickly be starved out as you could not buy supplies and you would be reported by just about any stranger you meet.

>cannot empower the left
Yet that's what it does because it lends credence and weight behind the calls to "combat racism" and enforce a police state, and cows the mainstream right who cannot associate with any violent groups. Your claim is counter to what Tarrant claimed and what has been observed.

>crashing this plane with no survivors
Indeed, there would be no survivors in any movement you led.

>until now
Are you going to buy fertilizer, MREs, night-vision goggles and radio equipment at your local general store with your anime collection? I bet you never even thought of those things as necessary with your "path."

>non white invaders seeking to replace us
Without a doubt there are quite a few with this mentality, but there are also a great number who just want to get on with their lives and don't think in terms of interracial conflicts. Just about every white person knows a member of the latter category and so is unlikely to swallow your rhetoric, let alone take up arms and join you. Guerilla warfare tactics won't work for the reasons above. They could work only if the situation degraded enough that our culture would fight for some existential issue. In the UK this may conceivably be white vs. non-white conflict, but in the U.S. this COULD NOT work.

>>241376
>realistic view
Don't use sarcasm without a related pic, Anon.

>>241387
You must admit it Is realistic to assume attempting a coup d'etat this day and age will end up crashing the plane with no survivors;
Bad thing is, another country would most likely take over if that happens.

>>241372 i would love to start a civil war against the enemies of white man but as >>241387 says, is not something realistic.

you will end killed just like an isis terrorist trying to enter the white house.

White countries are not like vietnam.

i am trying to think a plan here that doesn't involve suicide squads of white guys. Kamikazes didnt even worked for Japan . Honorable but stupid. that didnt stopped USA from bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

as i said . the "fight club" movie way looks poetic, but is that just fiction.

unless you have enough explosives and a web so big and powerfull as the Rotschilds and erase all banks and technology from every country.
but even then it will only generate an state of anarchy where rapefugees will use to fuck and destroy your beloved ones and you without anyone trying to stop them.

let's go back to ralityu and this time , you sit in front of your computer, drinking a tea and watching ponies...

the best thing you can do now is do sports, get healthy and find a good woman even if it is difficult, you can go to other white countries to find a conservative one an have children.

i know it is difficult, i am in the same boat as many here.

another option more complicated is try to organize us as a group and form communities in places far from subhuman migrations. that is what many white people did in history .

we can help each other with jobs, and helping to find place to live for others etc etc.

just like when europeans went in caravans to the far west of USA seeking for new lands to live in peace , working the land and being happy with their families.

as i sais in a post before, south of Argentina and Chile are good places to start communities, and ther are many eurpean conservative communities there.

In fact i can help people with that but posting info here is not a possibility

>>241395
>another option more complicated is try to organize us as a group and form communities in places far from subhuman migrations. that is what many white people did in history .

>we can help each other with jobs, and helping to find place to live for others etc etc.
This is exactly what we need to do.

>>241395
>Argentina
Argentina is about to crash and take Uruguay with it, would not advice to come. On the bright side, racism is going up as niggers from venezuela immigrate.

>>241397

i live in the far south of Argentina in the mountains.Lots of Snow and ice.
no jews and no niggers.

not even fabellas or villas

is like Aspen but without many people living here.

thousands of kilometers from the capital.

New Zealand like landscape . Hard working people around.

Also i have dollars from my work in europe and bought land here and made my house with the third of the cost as the dollar rised .

i have a house in Spain that is rented and with that rent i live here very well. i bought and ATV and i go to town just to buy food and other stuff.

now i know why the Führer chose that place. /)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL9ybY256_Y

>>241398
>i have a house in Spain that is rented
>bought land here
You could live anywhere in latin américa with that kind of setup.
I know argentina has some nice places but i still do not advice to move there without money coming from outside the country.

>>241401

Exactly, but i not only rely in my rented house. I also inatall solar panels for wealthy people here and i did lots of friends and many are from other uropean countries or sons or grandsons of europeans that also despice the lefties .
if you want to grow economically you can make a little bussiness and invest in land and homes. realstate stuff. for example a little apartment in a nice place is around 70000 US$

but you can chose to buy a 40 meters by 40 meters piece of land near a lake and far from people with that money if you prefer to be isolated and in the nature.

sorry for the typos.

Very cool virtue signal, anon. Upvoted and retweeted.

>>241227
>Telling people to read a whole book is deflection.
How well did that argument work with your history teachers back in high school? Guess what, dipshit? It doesn't work now either.

>>241195
> Siege was written by a satanist and a convicted pedophile named James Mason.
It looks like verbatim from the judenpresse.
Character assassination won't work in the chans, but ideas and facts supporting them, OP.

>>241206
Great article and site anon, thanks

>>241422
>How well did that argument work with your history teachers back in high school? Guess what, dipshit? It doesn't work now either.
Its a stupid argument and if a history teacher ever said this they failed their job which is to educate, rather then telling people to educate themselves. Which is the argument made by the anon, to list off the argument rather then say something that amounts to your stupid become educated like me.
>>241270
>given up the fight you arent going to change anything being blackpilled and talking about how everything is over
Anything but, I know what we're up against and even if I know the chances of us winning are almost 0 I know that me knowing what possible solutions can be used to save the west are much better then 90% of what anons recommend in this thread.

And let this be the topic of the thread. Siege shit won't save teh west. Accelerationism won't save the west. Ethnic and regional separatist movements won't save "our people." All of this can be attempted, but it will all be in vain. Lets consider now instead of what will not work what will work. But we cannot walk into this blindly, if we do we're no better then siegefags who are righteous in their beliefs of accelerationism. Little do they know that by enabling cultural entropy they will just lead to the societal breakdown faster without a net gain in general. To save the west we thus need to know where we are headed and what forces we fight.

So lets start with that, what forces do we fight? Well everyone here knows the threats without and within, but no one talks about the greatest of them all, that which is beyond. The enemy without is what many refer to as invaders, and what peopel that are more normie or not far right refer to as immigrants. They are a threat due to replacement. Then there is the enemy within, which those from /pol/ generally refer to as Jews, but honestly consists more of whites who have taken the bluepill. That isn't to say Jews aren't a problem in this system, but that they're part is on par with that of the white progressive. Now lets talk about the enemy beyond. What is this enemy? In short no one talks about it since it does not have a face. We know what a jew, a muslim, or a commie is. We do not know what cultural entropy is based on physical characteristics, but you can easily see it in history. Take a conservative from the 19th century and compare him to one today. Hell take a liberal from 100 years ago and compare him to a conservative today and you'll easily see that we have had politics drift further and further left wing. This is cultural entropy, over time politics moves left in the west. This trend will continue ideas such as good manners, loyalty, honor, the family, and even our sciences will be broken down by the left till it has nothing left to break.

This is our true enemy, a force in which if we were to counter with something to shift politics right over time all problems we face today would be over. Take what would happen if over time people became more conservative over the span of 20 years controlled for age and race. In 100 years gays would go back in the closet, and white birth rates would be back up. Well great, how do we get this to happen if this is the case? Well thats where things get very hard now, since the primary issue is that how do you re-create a historical force? My answer is this process and only be attempted by trying to build institutions that are innately right wing. Look at the red scare, and imagine for a second if McCarthy continued. He was supported by those in power and the public generally agreed with his end goal, however media killed him. Imagine now if he only got postie media. How would the US look today? Needless to say a lot less progressive then it is today would be my guess.

Thus the answer to the problems is the right wing needs technology, institutions, and communities that it can use to create power on par if not ahead of the left. This should be step 1. Step 2 needs to be fostering these systems and stabilizing them compared to the progressive counterparts. Step 3 needs to be then taking control of government once the anti progressive moment has entrenched itself and made clear its not willing to bend to cultural entropy, and in fact is willing to fight and destroy it. When all three of these are implemented we need to declare a dictatorship and only then ride of those from without and within who attempt to subvert and destroy the west. Only one time in history did something even closely resemble this come into being, that is the rise of far right movements in Europe in the 30s; however, the movements now must come in the US, which has a very young conservative moment, and a post WWII narrative justifying its hate of the far right. So we cannot attach ourselves to past movements, and should not even think in terms of politics till after our infrastructure has been laid out.

In general first few steps should be as follows to get step 1 up and running.
1. Create a right wing archive site for ideas. The left has Wikipedia and YouTube. We need similar institutions to get our ideas on a permeate platform.
2. Adopt right wing techs that already exist. Crypto currency easily comes to mind. The thing screams a right wing paypal but most pussies are not willing to put their money where their mouth is and would rather cry about being a victim then try and do something productive. Another tech that is similar to this is getting more right wingers, even normie ones, to go on 4chan or come here. Decentralized platform of message exchange with little to no repercussions is great for the right wing.
3. Organize local actions groups. Doesn't sound too fun, but find a bunch of normie conservatives and pretty much just talk with them. Over time redpill them.
4. Create small scale institutions. Also pretty boring, but if you have read something right wing or interesting on a platform be wiling to teach about it.

>>241432
This all being said and done however I still cannot see us winning, but I will still fight regardless.

>>241432
>Little do they know that by enabling cultural entropy they will just lead to the societal breakdown faster without a net gain in general
They do know that the only way to awaken Whites is to turn the heat to maximum, or to make the frog jump from the pan, and the faster the better.

>>241379
I'm here because pony/nazi is a good representation of the duality of nature. No other place has this dichotomy and juxtaposition. It reflects well my understanding nature, but I reject the extremes of either polarity. I am here for a meta-reason not CULTure.

The "agitation" of polarities existing together is equivalent of the agitation we experience in life, there is no peace, just oscillation between the poles of extremes, and endless REEEEing.

As a side note, those thinking you can kill all communists/socialists fail to understand why humanity is susceptible to it. Every child is born into a socialist situation, the mother gives it free food, board and comfort. The family extends this free stuff for about 20 years. Then suddenly (you) expect them to not expect the free stuff in adulthood.... amusing.

If a civilization is doing exceptionally well that child can remain a child getting free stuff into (what would have been) adulthood. This man-child then can play video games and shitpost on chans rather than raise kids and build the infrastructure of future civilisation. They keep a childish-free-stuff perspective (college) until the civilization fails.

Killing Jews or communists DOES NOT stop communism/socialism susceptibility. Therefore killing people is a false solution of small minds. Children need to be educated about the transition from a free-stuff-child to a no-free-stuff-adult. But since getting free stuff is ALWAYS tempting, failure risk is always high. Therefore the chance of a civilization lasting forever is zero.

>>241436
Please stop trying to force this meme.
"Hurr durr if you know its da cycle u can predict da new cycles", you say.
Yeah, we know the weak faggots in charge have created bad times. We know it'll be up to us strong men to create good times. You say this in every thread. Find something useful to contribute, for fuck's sake.

>>241448
You of all people don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to being redundant

>>241435
>Every child is born into a socialist situation, the mother gives it free food, board and comfort. The family extends this free stuff for about 20 years. Then suddenly (you) expect them to not expect the free stuff in adulthood…. amusing.

My understanding of this is that you fulfill your end of that social contract by caring for your parents when they're too old to work. This is how it worked before government bloated for many family units, always outliers of course, but returning the favour was the norm.

>>241452
>My understanding of this is that you fulfill your end of that social contract by caring for your parents when they're too old to work. This is how it worked before government bloated for many family units, always outliers of course, but returning the favour was the norm.

Yep, and this would make having children a necessity, thereby keeping the culture going. Strangely the underdeveloped world does this naturally and will therefore populate the world.

It's Germany's fault again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension#History

>>241432
Resume: " i am better than 90% of the anons here and i have a wonderful idea... like ..make communities and start political movements slowly from nothing to get power again"

Dude all this was already said in this thread.

>>241458 (You)
>It's Germany's fault again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension#History

Actually looking a little deeper pensions seem to have arisen in various places independently. So it must be a natural product of society getting wealthy and having more workers than retired. Retirement age should probably be 80 so that most people never reach it and retiring early is the benefit from working and saving hard (or having high quality kids).

>>241435
>As a side note, those thinking you can kill all communists/socialists fail to understand why humanity is susceptible to it. Every child is born into a socialist situation, the mother gives it free food, board and comfort. The family extends this free stuff for about 20 years. Then suddenly (you) expect them to not expect the free stuff in adulthood…. amusing.

You fail to see that people that give free stuff to kids until 20 are stupid and don't know how to rise a kid but in socialist ways.

then you have to reeducate those parents and also after 12 you are not a kid anymore.

And if there is a system that fights this and a goverment with the power to corrct humanity in that way of "living" but there are elements that continue to go against that then you need that goverment to eradicate those beings sending them to camps.

So we all agree here that we need to have enough power to start to clean the earth from jews, commies, lefties, SJWs, etc.
if not,go be a commie somewhere else

>>241463
And once that thuggery is justifiable the sociopaths and criminals will apply to be the gov sanctioned murderers. Then they will just murder anyone they don't like until the situation collapses in anarchy.

Who watches the watchers?

Any plan that depends on humans being pure and just has already failed.

>>241463
also pic.

>>241464

that is more than 70 years of zionist brainwashing speaking. good goy.

>>241464

it worked for Germany.
until zionism made the world go against your country for attacking (((them)))

If the worls don´t realize the jews are the enemy and in fact they support the jews, then that world must be destroyed.

If you fail to see this, then you are part of the cuck problem Germany has. (more like Germ-many) nowadays.

>>241463
>you need that government
Wrong, private individuals, religious institutions etc. do a far better job of determining destructive influences than a government. A government's inclined to just redefine it as "anything I don't like." Coercive power will be used to cement itself and then will become a target for outsiders to acquire, spurring another round of ideologies designed to seize it. The Enlightenment sprang from Absolutism.

>>241468

call it goverment, call it institutions, call it group of individuals with same honorable heroic values... but you know what i mean

>>241400

GET

now wait the >>241488 → get

>Department of Justice 'to propose quick executions for perpetrators of mass shootings' amid wave of massacres - and legislation could be part of a wider gun control package

>U.S. Attorney General William Barr has drafted legislation that would speed the death penalty for people who have committed mass murder, a White House official said on Monday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7420001/White-House-propose-expedited-death-penalty-perpetrators-mass-shootings.html

If you choose the path of thuggery the biggest thug wins. Who is the biggest thug? What is blow back?

>>241473
Those who plan "thuggery," as you put it, have little understanding of consequences. As such, not only are they willing to throw away otherwise productive lives but they are generally terrible at doing so. They think like leftists and that buying a rifle and finding a soft target will guarantee a "high score." They never bother researching techniques, training, or supplies.

To quote Soygon, "you're acting like a bunch of white niggers."

>>241285
https://youtu.be/VZZcdXMBQ6g

These are seriously dank,
Take this...

>>241477
>"high score"

I've wondered about the effects of computer games. The usual claim is it desensitises the player to violence or glorifies it. I wonder if the process is different and more subtle. A computer game naturally has one hero player, the person playing, it causes the perception that one person can save the world or any situation. Its the opposite to desensitising, it is lone "an hero" making.

>>241488 → where

>>241430
>>241206
not to derail the tread but are there any other news like sites like this worth following that anons here would recommend?

>>241222
That's because OP's entire paradigm exists within the confines of material existence. He's an American. The last chance the Americans had for a genuine ethno-spiritual existence died in the civil war. The Confederacy had the European mindset of the Medieval Lords who cared for their underlings out of a sense of noblesse oblige. The underlings may have been Africans, but it didn't matter because they knew their place in the social and spiritual hierarchy. They accepted Massuh as their better, and by doing so, they knew that he was under an obligation to provide for them in exchange for their labor. The vast majority of slaveholders treated their chattel well because a satisfied servant is an efficient servant. Contrary to popular belief, the slaveholders weren't needlessly cruel, scowling men holding whips on horseback. They genuinely cared about their slaves and their well-being because the slaveowner's family's well-being was entirely dependent on the work produced by his servants.

In a sense, the Confederacy could've been Evolianism perfected because the servant class wouldn't have had any genetic similarity to their masters.

>>241512

we must pray in the name of our alicorn goddesses /)

>>241285
>Do you think that we as National Socialists can even peacefully attempt our goals?
is the goal national socialism itself? My goal personally has always been the preservation and benefit of my family, ethnicity, race, community, religion, and country in that order. The reason I like NatSoc is because it seems like an effective way to achieve this, but like all other ideologies and policies and such it's just a means to an end.

>>241266
The Totenkopf "Death's Head" was more of a Prussian symbol originally. This is August von Makensen, dressed in uniform around the time of WWI. It is pretty "edgy" looking, but it had a historical symbolism before the Nazis came to power.

>>241292
>What would make (YOU) raise 3 kids?
a method for getting them where I don't need to deal with modern women (i.e. artificial wombs)
a support structure for caring for and raising them that doesn't require reliance the government (i.e. good community)
employment/source of fiance that provides both the time and money necessary to raise them.

the first is years or decades out, the second is impossible to find today especially in the state I live, the third is a dream.

>>241518
Cool, I didn't know that

>>241206
Ever since I started reading Identity Dixie it has helped me put things in perspective. The only downside I see with ID is that Euros or non Southerners probably feel indifferent about their religious and Southern Nationalist takes.

>>241507
Sometimes they feature articles from the American Sun on Identity Dixie, and I've been to their site a few times. Couldn't tell you if its good, but what I've seen has been interesting at the least.

To be honest, if the day of the rope happens,what will we do to prevent ourselves from being night of long knived by the siegers and other neo nazi filth once we are no longer useful to them.

>>241528
It’d be the other way around

>>241528
There is no "day of the rope". At least not for America. America faces balkanization, tremendous racial tension, corrupt military and police forces, bribes and blood money, food and material shortages, and disintegration.

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/

>>241512
>Evolianism perfected
Slavery was economically obsolete and a major disadvantage for the South, which lacked the industrial capacity of the North. An economy built on slavery can grow only linearly while one built on industry and technology grows exponentially. Hence why Robert E. Lee wisely wanted to end slavery gradually after the war was over. AltHype does a good takedown of mainstream notions of slavery. https://www.bitchute.com/video/pXLPwApbD6dJ/

To me it doesn't matter if slaves were handled humanely. On one hand it sacrifices ethnic cohesion for temporary gain by the importation of non-whites (which the Founding Fathers opposed) and on the other it leads to relative economic stagnation. The average Southerner was a poor small-scale farmer who didn't own slaves, yet he is blamed for it nonetheless. Slavery only held us back in every conceivable way.

>>241533
This. The main winners will be non-cucked religious groups who make cohesive stands for themselves, extensive criminal gangs and rogue commanders who carve out little territories. This is why forming cohesive (and openly non-violent) communities and getting a foot in the door in township politics could be invaluable. When everything falls apart "restoring stability" to your town may be a better bet than hiding in the woods.

>>241283
I think that's some next level mental gymnastics. You can argue any porn is art or degenerate if you apply moral relativism. Western values would strongly suggest pony porn as a substitute for a meaningful relationship is degenerate. Masturbating to porn is pretty much a crutch to satisfy the sexual desires of an individual without going out and actually meeting anyone. It is normal to masturbate or watch porn occasionally, but not to use it as a substitute for real life relationships. I like my pony porn, but I'm not going to twist my mind into pretzels trying to deny its not degenerate in any way.

>>241540
Growing an "economy" is a positive aspect why? You seek the trappings of the yankee. Growth and expansion for their own sake. You seem upset that that an antebellum South wouldn't be as industrious as a godless, rootless, and faithless north. So what? What is rootless industry compared to the bravery of a good man? If that's a trade you're willing to make, then I'm sure you can find cheap property in New England to buy.

So you can live among your kind.

>>241548
This. Pornography of any kind is degenerate. Its only use is to effectively repel normalfags and redditfags, as well as to make the work of any fedposters here as embarrassing as possible.

Saying "pone porn is art of the ideal" is really a short slippery slope away from saying "horse vaginas are perfectly designed for humans and only we can pleasure mares" which I have seen some post before. I'm not denying it is probably very pleasurable but so is doing LSD, and that is certainly degenerate.

>>241507
This is a good aggregation: https://www.whoiswhite.com/
I'd also recommend Amerika (http://www.amerika.org/), https://www.socialmatter.net/ for reactionary views (seems to be down atm), Counter-Currents (proud publisher of My Nationalist Pony), https://asymmetricworld.com/ for paleo-conservatism, and lewrockwell.com, mises.org, and radicalcapitalist.org/ for ancap takes. I recommend checking out Armstrong Economics to find out why Vrilanon keeps babbling on about cycles. Also, while therightstuff.biz overall should be regarded as suspect, I go there just for the Godcast which has earnest talk about Christianity.
What do you know, I was looking and I found something completely new to me too (unfortunately very Web 1.0 in design): https://notimeforsilence.wordpress.com/

>>241550
With an equivalent amount of tradition, would you rather be poor or well-off? People, especially whites, want to improve their condition and environment through industry and hard work. This has in the past given them dominance, because a stagnant nation will eventually be overtaken by a growing wealthy nation. Keeping yourself poor deliberately is shooting yourself in the foot. That isn't to say that material wealth should be pursued for its own sake, but it is not inconsistent with a moral life provided you do not let it dominate you.

>cheap property in New England to buy
I'm laughing right now, because New England is exorbitantly expensive thanks to aggressively economically-interventionist policies while the South is cheap yet booming due to relative freedom in industry. It's modern proof that maintaining traditional, common-sense values leads to greater prosperity in the long run.

>>241299
>And, for the record, the government using taxpayer dollars to make child bearing a viable career is just as socialist as government-subsidized housing.

That's funny because National Socialism is socialism. The real difference is that they only want to give the gibs to white people because they think "being white" will somehow unify an entire ethnostate. Take a look at the black nationalist movements in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. If anything white nationalists now are beginning to face the same sort of problems they faced then. Hitler himself wasn't a true white nationalist, he forged his ethnostate out of something that was already there, the German race. The idea of white people all coming together to form a nation is almost as ridiculous as Pan Africanism was during the 50s.

I know this is a huge generalization but if I had to guess which historical narrative you guys buy into about the history of the South I'd put >>241540 down as the modernist narrative, >>241550 as the romanticist narrative, and >>241552 down as the Grady's "New South" narrative. Again I'm kinda throwing darts, and like any historical narrative they all share common truths based on historical interpretation.

>>241553
>NatSoc is socialism
>NatSoc
>is
>socialism
>Hitler forged his own ethnostate out of German race
>ethnostate
>forged
>his own
>race
This is either RETARDED shitposting or shilling. It is insanely difficult to tell which at the current time this sentence is being typed.

>>241552
First off: both your posts reek of "my fellow huwhites" bullshit. Secondly, you're not fooling anyone using personal attacks as Jew-Lockwell is flat out disinformation. Thirdly, the first site linked in your second post is currently being used by ShareBlue and similar organizations to better target nationalist movemarents. It deliberately lists the ADL, SPLC, Right Wing Watch, and fucking Hatetracker as "opposition organizations". Good job revealing yourself.

>>241533
>America faces balkanization
Pic related. Your seeing things for how you want them to be, not how they are. We are not breaking up, but we are centralizing more and more power in individuals instead of collective ideas. This won't lead to balkinziation but instead Caesarism. To put it simply, we are nearing the end of the republic, not empire.

>>241459
>Only mentions 1 of the 4 policy recommendations I list off
>To get power
Also pic related, I would explain it again but my ideas will likely fall on def ears that is to say you so I'll not bother. Also holy fuck stop reddit spacing you nigger.

>>241563
>my fellow huwhites
Is this projection or is this just standard D&C tactics?

>disinformation
A blog which lists writers and articles unpublishable in the mainstream media, and which prominently features Pat Buchanan, Hoppe, Takimag, and Unz is disinformation? Kek.

>whoiswhite.net is opposition research
I wouldn't be a very good ShareBlue shill if I gave away the secret aggregator, now would I? I discovered it one month ago at >>233189 →, and as it was a decent sized thread you're clearly not a regular.

Decent choices, though the last pic has a better version with pink genitals.

>>241572
>sage
>not a regular
Now I know you're a jew.

>>241572
Don't deflect. Using the "my fellow huwhites" detraction was more than enough to identify you. Posting a collection of sites created solely to attack nationalists, using plebbit spacing, quoting four names that are known opposition shills, "I was just pretending to be a shill", and best of all outing yourself as the '/mlpol/ is dying!!!' Doomfag? You've been identified, game's over. Been on this site far longer than you, cuckboi.

>>241576
>my fellow huwhites
If you don't use the term "normalfag," you're from leddit. If you do use it, you're a shill.

>sites created to attack nationalists
[citation needed]

>plebbit spacing
A loose definition that would indict half the posters here

>known opposition shills
Kek. Also, [citation needed]

>what is sarcasm

>I'm the doomfag
lolnope

Nice try for a rabbi.

>>241579
Congratulations good sir! See, you've walked in on a live jewwatch(TM) special event featuring the Exterminator in progress of cleansing two roaches that have been following their ShareBlue handbook a bit too well. Poster ID# ff8a7 links directly to the traffic thread in which he was the Doomerfag screeching about /mlpol/ dying. The other poster, ID# 29414, simply isn't that good at hiding their bullshit. To relieve your confusion, please take these provided images as compensation for violating your N.A.P.

>>241580
Oh hohoho, excuse YOU for being angry about not getting those 2 shekels this post, mister good goy. Let's start off with using "normalfag" to begin with: it doesn't work. Nope, not even a tingle. There's a specific number of /mlpol/ terms, slang, phrasing, and subjective words used I tend to keep track of. First instance of I'm not going to do homework for you bitchcakes: whoiswhite is a known attack site since it CLEARLY LISTS kike organizations as "opposing them". Don't try to deflect, it isn't resulting in positives for you. Second time of not doing your homework: plebbit spacing simply doesn't work here, nor does trying to cover for it using the 'I was just pretending to be retarded!' approach. Logical fallacies much? Third time of not doing your homework: no citations needed, they are what they are. Trying to toss the burden of proof back at me is a tu quoque, which likewise doesn't work. Also, your use of 'kek' and 'lolnope' is exceedingly outdated. Sarcasm is yet another poor tapdance maneuver as your posting style & phrasing is the exact same as your Doomerfag posts on the traffic thread. Have a fun time reporting back to your masters that you're still a giant failure, too bad, no shekels for you.

>>241584
>a site lists organizations as the enemy, therefore it must be the enemy
What kind of goofy logic is this?

>muh spacing
Imagine running on at length rather than pick out your D&C tactics one by one.

>no citations needed
Claims require proof, and you claimed that Buchanan, Hoppe, Taki and Unz are all shills.

>exceedingly outdated
Imma dab on you hater

>>241586
How many times do we have to tell you to take your Jewish shill ass out of here, and jesus fuck stop spacing, this ain't reddit.

>>241213
Even Rockwell wanted to branch away from NatSoc retard

>>241586
Deflecting a site that lists opposition by pointing out whoiswhite is an awfully shit strategy. Moving the goalposts is likewise stupid when caught off guard by claiming "divide & conquer" when you are indeed the Doomerfag. Shifting the burden of proof off from known pro-zionist cuckshills isn't laughable, it's pathetic. Go do your report, let it be known that you are incapable of raking in shekels, goyim. Also those image names are hysterically easy to identify which folder they came from. 0/10 shit job, traitor.

>>241588
Proofs?

>>241589
>opposition
>whoiswhite
There's an opposition tag under whoiswhite.com, I'm fairly sure that means opposition against us. Unless you mean whoiswhite is a 4D chess move to direct attacks against /oursites/, which I find unlikely. I'm as much the Doomerfag as you are. You're that same sperg/D&C shill who flies off on a tangent against random posters, never actually being able to find actual shills.

>>241595
Good show but you already ousted your self as a jew,it's to late now.

>>241595
Bad goyim, deflecting and tapdancing isn't handbook positive hypocrisy, doublethink, and cognitively dissonant enough! There's no prophet here for intellectually dishonest subversives, that is, under the assumption you stop such piss poor attempts at blending in. Go make the report now since there's nothing left for you, Doomerfag.

>>241595
Also when you submit your report, include me in the screencap. Mossad fuck

>>241593
It was brought up in one of the interviews he had. iirc in the same interview he admitted to being an atheist and would accept anybody in regardless of religion. He didn't want the ANP seen as an American sect of NatSoc. He wanted it to be its own thing.

Mods, just end my suffering so we can have substance in the thread again, is >>241595 a shill?

(Most likely.)

>>241600
>atheist
You obviously didn't read white power or this time the world
He despised atheists for their obnoxious insistence that they know everything about the universe.

>>241601
Easy poner, shilling brings life to the board.
It can be taxing, but it is also refreshing.

>>241235
Anon, the nazis were anything but the care bears you describe here, at best it represents Equestria.
Siege however is just a pretext to make sure people hate our movement, giving the arguments to classify us as terrorists akin to ANTIFA.

What Anon said we must build, not destroy. Destroying is what the left and postmodernist, and replacists want.

>>241612
>Siege however is just a pretext to make sure people hate our movement
>looks
If you read Siege you'll find out that anything you try to build will be coopted and neutralized.
There is no reason to cooperate with the system any longer and all further endeavors are destined to demolish it.

>>241617
I've read siege, it is indeed the bible of edgeposters.

>>241612
Anon there's nothing in this hellhole of a Globalized society worth saving.

>>241612
They want us dead and destroyed. We aren't fighting back in the little ways or the big ones. Antifa thugs don't crawl home with broken limbs and a warning, and they don't get filled with bullet holes on the spot, because the right still expects cops and the courts to do their job.
We need to fight back, and fight smart. If the worst happens, we can rebuild society on our own without subversive influences, but the left can't build anything, only destroy. So the left must be destroyed.

>>241620
>So the left must be destroyed
Yes, but the left and its degeneracy are just the result of State's policies. Focusing on the useful idiots is what the kikes want us to do to wear us off, while they fence sit and wait for the right moment to send their zogbot armies to restore "their" order.
To fight the left is like to attack one head of a hydra, a distraction from the heart.

>>241622
Fucking this. There is a reason why Tyrants rarely get punished for their crimes.

>>241622
>>241628
Yeah, to truly fight off such enemy you would have to convince people of such enemy in the first place.
This Is where we differ; Destroying the left would facilitate it for the right to win over the masses. Once the whole country, independent of beliefs is "redpilled" such problem can be easily solved.

If you count on the egg before the chicken lays it, youll die of hunger.

>>241569

so edgy
so agressive

if only you use that to fight jews..

>>241572
>>241569
>>241563

People that have to chill out and try to build instead of attacking each other .

stop calling each other jews. insulting is not the way to make things work.
we can take stuff from all of you and not 100% but part of each one is right.

if you fail to understand this then maybe the one more triggered is the real jew

>>241580

you are right. but maybe they are not jews but lefties or kids

>>241587

Wait, i use spacing to get things more organized as i learned in the 90s using wordpad in a windows 95 PC.

I don't even know how to get into reedit or similar. but i always get the same thing about reedit spacing.

So you have to write all in one paragraph like a retarded illiterate monkey to have a good point?

yours sincerely, another mlp fim fan

>>241653
You can separate paragraphs like a normal, literate person.
The thing is, if you want to format a post like this.

You would have to press space two times in leddit like this.

Because their shitty post system requires two spaces to break one-
-line

And it end up lookin like this.

Also we could just argue with proper points before calling each other a Jew.