/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Instead of wasting energy for this revival, try to fish people here isntead. Simple.

>>108540
I know we aren't going to revive 4chan, but people need to know about the memo and fusion collusion. Lot's of normies browse 4chan now and this will help get the information out. Look at /pol/ right now. The shills want this information gone.

Memo thread
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157418614
Shillpocalypse (mlpol link alread dropped)
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157428180
These are among the last actual posts on 4/pol/ https://boards.4chan.org/pol/catalog

good redpill thread
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157482514

Fusion Collusion (link dropped)
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157483044
Create a new thread if you do not see one on the catalog https://pastebin.com/Y47sNZX0

Another memo thread
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157481839

>>108535
Wouldn't the Rothchilds be AnCap?

New fusion thread
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157529914

Is this also a fishing thread?

>>108644
Sure

>>108644
can we ever fish anywhere besides 4chan? I feel like a lot of you faggots still go back there and use their boards instead of ours "because mlpol.net just isn't active enough"

>>108649
We could try YouTube comment sections especially on old /mlpol/ videos.

>>108649
Yeah I go and post on places where there is stuff that interests me, not as if /mlpol/ topics don't, but when you post enough and are the last one who commented in 5 different threads its sorta hard not to go looking somewhere else. I don't see a problem with posting on 4chan other then it draining a bit of the potential traffic from here. But as we can see with /vx/, anons want something besides /mlpol/ from time to time.

>>108651
how about current mlp or political videos, I know no one wants to deal with normies but as long as most people online don't know this place exists we run the risk of slowly and quietly dying out

>>108652
I'm saying YOU should post about those topics here and maybe then some anons on here who also go back to 4chan for them would discuss them with you, then we'd have more activity. I'm not saying you or others can't go elsewhere from time to time, I'm saying mlpol.net needs more contribution and if we all don't contribute who will?

>>108653
Depends on who is watching those videos. We don't want to bring in people who watch CNN.

>>108649
I only check out a few threads there each month now, this thread specifically has gotten me posting on 4/pol/ in a slew of nationalistic fervor. My main problem with this place is that people just tend to stop replying to threads out of the blue. Where the fuck are you people going that you never return to continue discussion?

The nature of this site being a merge between /pol/ and /mlp/ is a big part of what lynches it since some /mlp/ posters don't want to deal with the politics and some /pol/ posters don't want to deal with the ponies. It's a crossboarder's dream, but damned if its very nature isn't neutering it.

>>108653
>I'm saying mlpol.net needs more contribution and if we all don't contribute who will?
The main things I go back to 4chan for are /tg/ 40k threads and /biz/ crypto shilling. I could shill crypto, but I'd rather not ruin the catalogue with shit like, /mlpol/ WHY HAVEN'T YOU BOUGH VEN? And 40k shit would be off topic here, and I'm not about to use /vx/ since I personally think every board besides /mlpol/ shouldn't exist on this site.

>>108654
there's plenty of right-leaning political videos on youtube anon, 1791L or any given e-celeb has an audience we can fish. Honestly tho I wonder if it's easier to get bronies into politics or to get political people into ponies?

>>108657
Lots of bronies are alienated white men so it shouldn't be too hard. Probably a lot of berniebros pissed off at the Democrat party. You think we could red pill them?

>>108655
>Where the fuck are you people going that you never return to continue discussion?
probably to sleep, work, etc. this is a drawback of having so few people on larger imageboards more people would jump into a thread at different points keeping it going

>/mlp/ posters don't want to deal with the politics and some /pol/ posters don't want to deal with the ponies.
this is an issue that's gone largely unaddressed, we aren't promoting the /pol/ part of the board to ponyposters or the converse

>108656
> /tg/ 40k threads
make on on >>>/vx/

> /biz/ crypto shilling
make one on >>>/üb/

>I personally think every board besides /mlpol/ shouldn't exist on this site.
I'd agree on the basis of the fact that anons like you aren't bothering to use them in which case they serve little purpose, but just like the "less active" complaint I brought up earlier this is self fulfilling.

>>108661
anyone can be redpilled, the question is how. It'd be excellent if we could compile a bunch of redpills relevant to mlp or use ponies to push redpills elsewhere like on twitter or something

>>108657
>bronies
Here's your problem, and mine with large scale site expansion. I came here to escape newfags and although I'm fine with a few newfags finding their way here I'd rather not actively bring them over, which is why I'm fine with shilling on any chan that exists but otherwise pic related.
>>108664
>just like the "less active" complaint I brought up earlier this is self fulfilling
Well, that is not why I'm against them, I come here with the mentality that this community is another one I'm part of, not an all consuming one. I still go to a lot of other boards for what they've made and how it works but I come here for the community we've made and what we've made it around. I think its silly to try and expand what brought us together in an attempt to get more traffic if, which it seems it does, it split our community.

>>108667
I get that, but realize that no newfags means very few new anons. I understand where you're coming from but it's impractical if we want the site to grow and become more active. If you go to the policy page those rules have been removed for this reason. As for the other thing I'd only recommend that you browse the overboard more, self improvement for example is certainly not unrelated to politics and anything can be ponyfied so to speak

>>108664
>anyone can be redpilled, the question is how. It'd be excellent if we could compile a bunch of redpills relevant to mlp or use ponies to push redpills elsewhere like on twitter or something
Seeing as the bronie community is full of berniebros or apolitical types we should start with entry level redpills on feminism, Islam, DNC corruption, or affirmative action. It is easier to turn a berniebro into a libertarian than it is to turn a berniebro into a white nationalist.

>>108671
>feminism
>Islam
pics related but how can we relate the topic to mlp? we need to give them a reason to care

>>108670
>As for the other thing I'd only recommend that you browse the overboard more
Like I said, the problem I have with the other boards on this site are that they split the community and limit discussion on the main board, sure some anons might use the overboard and say see a meta thread on /qa/ and respond or might see a self improvement thread on /ub/ and respond, but for the most part we come here for /mlpol/ well at this point I'd argue most anons come here for CYOA's on /vx/ and /mlpol/ topics. The thing I admire about the anon filly community is that they've managed to stay together extremely well after their threads died, because they chose the remain a thread rather then become a chan which made their community very solid. By making ours a board it means we'll lose more anons over time, and by making ours a site entirely we'll lose a lot more because of how much we've spread ourselves out. It also makes anons becomes less and less /mlpol/ and more and more /vx/ or /ub/ over time. I'd rather all boards be trashed and for all topics to be discussed on /mlpol/ or for anons to search offsite for their designated topic.
>If you go to the policy page those rules have been removed for this reason
This is a meme, the rules are community made and community enforced, the mods changing them won't change them to me and won't change them for others that believe in them the way they were originally. Neither will they change them for the anons who never really believed in them. Which makes me question if the mods ever believed in our two most important rules that we set up when we made this community while we still were on 4chan.

>>108677
I'm sure we can find an example of something from mlp that kebabs or SJWs would find offensive. Are there any articles out there about the "toxic" or "Problematic" elements of the brony community?

>>108664
An unfortunate truth is that a lot of /mlp/ posters still harbor bad impressions of the /pol/ community due to the (often times) unwarranted crossposting. I used to be like that and tell /pol/posters to fuck off because the differences in the structure of the human skull across races had nothing to do with the political structure of the equestrian monarchy.

Likewise, many /pol/ posters are leery of /mlp/ because degeneracy, in which they aren't wrong. It is. The best example of intermingling the different users was best observed when the boards were first merged, the show was shown to be a vessel for traditional values (an example that may come to an abrupt, horrifying end sooner rather than later) and appropriate, relevant redpills were introduced to ponyposters rather than the former method of dropping them out of the blue. MLP tends to attract people of a center left mindset rather than the opposite, that's to say horsefuckers are on the whole more liberally minded than /pol/ considering we want to breed talking pastel equines instead of a 3dpd.

Personally it's a weird fucking place for me to be in to want to breed a horse and simultaneously want your typical white, nuclear family. The two opinions are such polar opposites that the only way I've been able to parse holding them both is that it isn't specifically the horse, but traditional feminine ideal the horse represents.

Essentially, it takes time for people to arrive at an acceptable middle ground between two normally uncompromising views, if they manage it at all. A good /mlp/ redpill is that the ponies are a good representation of good old world values, that line of thought alone is subtle road to conservatism, which inevitably lead to nationalism. That one might not be effective for much longer since the staff are currently working to destroy that representation.

>>108681
You have a point in that imageboards like this tend to leak users over time. The only real solution I can think of to that problem is by bringing in newfags, but not at a rate where we're unable to assimilate them all. You can observe how that process works in the real world just by looking at the demographic shift in Europe. As for the other boards, I think they have the potential to work as gateway topics into /mlpol/, much like how /b/ serves as a gateway to browsing 4chan, as bad an example as that is.

I have mentioned before that the site grew too large too fast, boards were not made by absolute necessity over a period of years as they were on 4chan. I think that's something new chan boards tend to forget, that it took 2chan and 4chan over a decade to grow as big as they did. Unfortunately there's no way to fix the problem created by fragmenting the small userbase without taking things away, which some might take issue with.

>>108687
>You have a point in that image boards like this tend to leak users over time.
I don't really think so, a good community doesn't leak users because users feel like they have something to look foward to coming back for. For /pol/ its being around like minded anons or mutually hating the same things, /mlp/ its pony autism, /biz/ its making money, /tg/ its table top autism. The reason we lose users I think is twofold.
1. Board nothing to do, so they go elsewhere.
/mlp/ and /pol/ are both faster boards, at least in comparison to other boards on 4chan. So most want that from this place board and if we don't have that they'll leave.
2. /mlpol/ has changed
Like to admit it or not we're not the same thing as /mlpol/ was on 4chan. I really wish we were, but flagfags, removing rule 1 and 2, and a hole host of other things have changed since then that many of us I might just be speaking for myself at this point have sorta watched things changed and disagreed teh entire time where it feels as if the community has moved along without us.

Anon filly doesn't have this problem that I'm aware of, which is why their one of the only active threads on /mlpol/ as of now. I wish it could be the same here but you could see it with the entire green vs orange anon debate, some like me can't see ourselves being anything besides green, while others want our board anon to be orange because they hate 4chan or want to disassociate themselves from it. We're leaking anons because of those two reasons, and I'm against pushing out and fishing till we fix them.

While you all want to expand I'd say the best thing this site could do as of now is consolidate. Shorten the catalogue size, kill off all the boards and make /mlpol/ the only one to exist, make thread sizes smaller to force us to make new threads more often. If you try and dump water into a broken pot, no matter how much you dump in, you'll eventually have nothing left, and thats what we're trying to do right now. Fix our problems and then we can expand.

>>108681
>but for the most part we come here for /mlpol/
you're projecting don't try to imply "we" and describe what you do and why. I'm disgusted by the kind of mindset you have because in my opinion it seems like you still see /mlpol/ as just another board on 4chan and only come here to relax after using 4chan even though the mods and admins treat anons like dirt. I might be wrong, but it ssounds like you use mlpol.net to make your experience with 4chan better rather than to leave 4chan altogether.
>Which makes me question if the mods ever believed in our two most important rules that we set up when we made this community while we still were on 4chan.
there was literally a whole discussion about this that you're blowing past, no one is argueing against the importance of those rules "when we made this community while we still were on 4chan." you're the one saying those rules still apply and are important now, which I disagree with.

>>108686
>I'm sure we can find an example of something from mlp that kebabs or SJWs would find offensive
I agree let's brainstorm
>Are there any articles out there about the "toxic" or "Problematic" elements of the brony community?
I'd imagine there are but they'd probably talk about cringe shit and the "alt-bronies" and I'd doubt I'd disagree, most aren't aware that "nazi horsefuckers" as it were exist

>>108687
I agree that there are problems and that these two groups don't see eye-to-eye but we should look for ways to bridge the divide, relate ponies to politics and vice versa

>>108700
>/mlp/ and /pol/ are both faster boards, at least in comparison to other boards on 4chan. So most want that from this place board and if we don't have that they'll leave.
we'll never be able to compete with 4chan in terms of traffic and activity we need an entirely different angle/selling point
>2. /mlpol/ has changed
can you be more specific? how it has changed, why, and how that's different from the original?
I've heard a lot of complaints about flagfags and the like but I don't recall the original /mlpol/ way back in april being too concerned with anonymity

>>108701
>we
Yeah my bad should have said, "according to the stats we collect most anons come here for /vx/ and then /mlpol/. SORRY that I wasn't super technical.
>seems like you still see /mlpol/ as just another board on 4chan
>Implying that isn't the best way to see it
>Implying I want to leave all the communities I've made because I like this community
Anon its not a us vs them. 4chan isn't bad, its just got a current hierarchy and /pol/ has an insufferable amount of newfags. If you only browse /pol/ then sure you'd think it'd be irredeemable but you'd have to be a huge newfag to think /pol/ is 4chan.
>there was literally a whole discussion about this that you're blowing past
I said it there and I will say it here, I strongly disagree with the changes that were made.
>>108706
>we'll never be able to compete with 4chan in terms of traffic
We don't need to be fast, we just need to be not insufferably slow. I can deal with it because I'm a regular on slower boards but most anons especially from /pol/ won't settle for anything less then at least 20posts per hour which we struggle with.
>can you be more specific?
Orange anon, flagfags, glimmergat 1 and 2, rule 1 and 2 removal, adding additional boards, football, OC characters, allowing a general to be on our board anonfilly, putting us in the 4cc /pol/eague, ect. None are necessarly bad things but all are part of our board and board culture now. Some events drove anons away others brought more here or them together. Regardless to say we're teh same board as we were on april fools, when anons took such a hard line on the rules 1 and 2 that they wanted to keep us out of the 4cc shows how much we've changed.

corrupt hierarchy*

>>108716
>Implying that isn't the best way to see it
>Implying I want to leave all the communities I've made because I like this community
imo you just want to have your cake and eat it too, I assume you know I'm right about how bad a lot of 4chan is these days because it's the whole fucking reason this site we're on exists in the first place, but you still go back and tolerate how the mods treat you and the all the ways /pol/ and /mlp/ are terrible these days from the mod situation on down because you still "see yourself as a 4chan anon" and can't get over having to leave. Personally when the people running a website treat me like shit and I have an alternative I'm happy to leave and shut the door behind myself I don't want to give people like that traffic or provide them any content or activity, but maybe that's just me. If you still like 4chan that much to put up with what it's become these days, why even come here? why don't you stay in /trash/ where the mods put you? seems like it's where you belong.

>>108700
>/mlp/ and /pol/ are both faster boards, at least in comparison to other boards on 4chan. So most want that from this place board and if we don't have that they'll leave.
Board speed definitely is like a drug, to the point where I believe the dependency on rapid discussion is as physiological as it is psychological. People naturally gravitate towards larger, more active groups, even if those groups are demonstrably subpar in comparison.

>/mlpol/ has changed
Flags were a part of 4/mlpol/, as I remember fondly the shocking discovery that basically all the shitposters that were plaguing both boards were Canadians. I'll disagree on the removal of rule 1 and 2 as no one really bothered to follow those rules in the first place when it came to fishing on 4chan, and people still follow them in regards to other sites. There's been talk of fishing on those other sites and there's always been resistance to the idea, and for good reason. So I don't believe there's been a great deal of change, but the mentality is different, there's less energy and excitement around /mlpol/ than there was on April Fool's. Can't quite put my finger on what the cause is, if there's even a specific one.

>Anonfilly
As someone who left 4chan mostly behind when that was banned, anonfilly is more or less the same as it was on /mlp/, maybe even a little more active than it used to be after the adjustment period. It was always one of the fastest threads on /mlp/, and the thread wasn't going down without a fight. I think some of why it's still together is out of open defiance of the mods attempts to kill it entirely when Aero said, and I quote, "If no one's going to remember it in five years, it's not worth fighting for.". The hate for everything 4chan are literally just people who've come over from 8chan who sadly formed the consensus on that site that anything to do with 4chan is inherently bad, when it really is just the people running it. That complete rejection of the old bears a striking similarity to the prevailing attitudes of the left "Old is bad, new is good", born out of emotion rather than logic and identifying what exactly was wrong.

As I mentioned, we did try to grow too big too quick. Too few users spread out over too much site, cutting down the size of the boards/threads could be disastrous if handled incorrectly, and it's the only apparent solution on the table.

>>108701
>I agree let's brainstorm
An oldie but a goodie, the country is run by a big white horse with a phallic symbol on her forehead and all the colored ponies are subservient to her. Even her smaller, dark skinned sister. In fact, an SJW back in 2010 pointed this out in an article, which was debunked by Faust herself since, but with the left becoming more incoherent than ever, they're not likely to remember that. The window for using this stuff is closing fast, come April, MLP is going to be just another cartoon pedaling leftist dogma.

>>108701
If you guys want to reach out to berniebronies why not reach out to the alt-brony or even alt-furries. At least the alt-brony crowd isn't completely blue pilled.

>>108727
>MLP is going to be just another cartoon pedaling leftist dogma
This might be a good opportunity. When the bronies see the left destroy the series they loved it could be an opportunity for another gamergate.

>>108730
I doubt it'll work effectively, the whole fandom is aware of the direction its changing and are either completely okay with it or disgusted by it. There are very few people actually on the fence and of those who are, apathy reigns with the "cute ponies doing cute things" attitude. They don't care beyond that.

>>108727
>Board speed definitely is like a drug, to the point where I believe the dependency on rapid discussion is as physiological as it is psychological. People naturally gravitate towards larger, more active groups, even if those groups are demonstrably subpar in comparison.
if you're right then how do we fight this behavior, or can we? going against human nature is usually difficult
>and people still follow them in regards to other sites. There's been talk of fishing on those other sites and there's always been resistance to the idea
personally I think this is a problem, the issues with newfags are obvious, but only/mainly fishing on 4chan gives us too small a pool of potential new users to grow at any decent rate.
>MLP is going to be just another cartoon pedaling leftist dogma.
while this is a tragedy we should never forget opportunity, gamergate and other similar events redpilled a lot of people as their hobbies were ruined by leftist politics.
>>108729
I remember we had an encounter with the alt-bronies and it didn't go very well, we have more to gain redpilling people who are bluepilled rather than those who simply aren't as redpilled as us, while non-ideal people who are basically on our side can more or less be counted on when an election or such roles around

>>108734
>how do we fight this behavior
Well, the first step to solving any problem is recognising there is one. Imageboards, along with many other online social networks, have demonstrably proven themselves as potent as any narcotic. Human beings are social creatures and crave social interaction, there's a whole battery of neuro-chemical responses that occur to encourage it. Now, since we're all prone to optimising behaviour, we're legitimately hardwired to maximise our exposure to this sort of stimulation.

You have to train yourself to want it less, so I suppose it's like quitting any drug really.

>too small a pool of potential new users to grow at any decent rate.
Remember Project Chanology, that was the start of the path that brought 4chan to the point it's currently at. You cannot bring in more people than the native population can assimilate and expect the culture to remain static. The rate we bring in new people will grow, but it must grow in proportion to the size of the userbase, we have to be able to assimilate newcomers by providing an environment where new people are in the severe minority and the only way for them to fit in is to adapt.

And yeah, I'm pretty sure sales will drop over the coming years as MLP becomes increasingly associated with the left, quickly followed by share prices. Hopefully it'll result in what happened with Marvel and DC initiating a purge of their IPs, but quicker, before too much damage is done.

Fingers crossed, but I'm not too hopeful considering it took Hasbro seven fucking years to realise they were sitting on a gold mine.

>>108722
>why don't you stay in /trash/ where the mods put you? seems like it's where you belong.
I'm extremely torn on this. I love you fags and the april first dream but if you honestly think I should go back it means I am out of sync with the rest of you. Maybe it'd be better off if I do pack my bags and head out. I still go to 4chan because of the communities that I love. But like I said this place feels much more like 8/pol/ + ponies then it does like /mlpol/ and so there isn't much of a reason I remain other then nostalgia and the obligations I've made here to this community.

>>108753
I'm sorry if I'm being too harsh, but I'd honestly prefer you here only more committed. It's a difference in philosophy maybe, or maybe I'm just less forgiving, imo it seems like you've only got one foot in the door here but are mostly still on 4chan which I personally don't like. Also I'm here from 4chan /pol/ originally so stop with this "only the 8channers here hate 4chan" narrative it's just a strawman. Besides which as far as I can see 8chan and 8/pol/ was much more successful in their exodus and in growing as a site than we have been so I'm not sure where we have room to criticize them, but I never really go on 8chan so maybe I'm missing something.

>>108752
>You have to train yourself to want it less
rather than us the people who we need to drop this behavior are for example 4chan anons we're trying to fish
>The rate we bring in new people will grow
how? rather than an issue of "assimilating newcomers" because we're getting too many, currently it seems like we're not getting any newcomers in the first place

>>108757
>/pol/ originally so stop with this "only the 8channers here hate 4chan" narrative it's just a strawman
I'm not saying that, its just that when I left 4chan originally for 8chan it went that way very fast. Its something common I've noticed with offshoots of an original they will hate what they've left because they feel betrayed. This wasn't my first time leaving 4chan, I've done it a considerably large amount of times which is why I don't bother thinking it will matter this time, because I know I will go back because they have appealing communities that I can't leave and will likely never move over.

Your not being harsh, just honest, and the truth is I've been questioning being here for a bit because of how often my concerns are ignored and other anons just agree and move on with issues I still can't agree with, like the rule 1 and 2 change. In all honesty I wouldn't mind at all if say, we were to be nothing more then a single thread on /trash/, and so your right to an extent. I just wanted to be around you all and keep having fun, but its become less and less fun to be the only one who disagrees with everyone else. The mods ignore it as well since they go off of what the community thinks overall, and the only mod who had a similar outlook on this left pretty much at the start the way I heard it go down. When you were being honest, not nice but honest, your right to an extent there is very little reason for me to remain.

>>108757
8chan was targeted towards a wider audience, and is dead now to boot. Not to mention Hiro literally owns that site as well. You really shouldn't hate 4chan, hate what it's become all you like, but everything that was good about that site is right god damned here. It may have the domain name, but that site sure as fuck isn't 4chan.

>>108758
Yes, and the best way to do that isn't by telling them that they must go cold turkey or fuck off. It isn't by telling them that everything they liked about 4chan was shit and that they must replace the color green with the color orange. Attempting to avoid the pitfalls of other 4chan clones by divorcing ourselves entirely from our origins doesn't mean we'll avoid those pitfalls. We have to move slowly at first, bring in people at a trickle, help them adjust to the slower pace, show them that we can have good quality discussions here, and most importantly we have to have fun doing it. Things will pick up on their own from there, just like they did when 4chan itself was just starting out.

Contrary to popular belief, we do get newcomers, the Anonfilly thread was this. We're currently drawing users from a disenfranchised niche formed by two niches on a niche website. Give it time, like, a lot of time. Try to post more frequently, I sure as hell am.

>>108753
Not to be a dick, but if there's one thing I'm getting a little tired of around here lately, it's people who complain vaguely about how /mlpol/ isn't fun anymore or they dislike the direction it's going without explaining what they mean or even elaborating on what they think it should be.
>this place feels much more like 8/pol/ + ponies then it does like /mlpol/
like, what the hell do you mean by this? This site was founded because 4chan mods threw /mlp/ and /pol/ together as a joke, people from both boards decided they had enough common interest in both topics for a permanently merged board to work, 4chan wouldn't give us one, so this site was created. We have threads about ponies, we have threads about politics, and usually there's some overlap between topics. What more could possibly be done to make this place "more like /mlpol/?"

Nobody here wants you to leave and if you post on 4chan as well as MLPOL it's your own business, I'm guessing most of us still visit our original homeboards from time to time, but please try to be a little less of a faggot. There's no avoiding the fact that 4chan has completely gone to absolute shit since Hiro took over. Unless moot decides to buy the site back from him and set it to right (unlikely since he probably sold it due to personal burnout and the fact that it operates at a loss) it's never going to be like it was again. The dream is dead. Your options are either find a new home or keep sucking Hiro's cock.

>>108758
We have mods that will ban faggots so I don't see the issue with bringing people in. The reason 4/pol/ got so bad is because the mods did not care.

I also see no reason why people can't use more than one imageboard. Hell I use 8chan, 4chan, mlpol, and meguca.

>>108763
>because they feel betrayed
were we not betrayed? the administration and moderation of 4chan was taken over by people that hate/don't care about us despite us being among other things their source of income.
>communities that I can't leave and will likely never move over.
in my opinion the reason those communities will never move over is because of people like you in them that refuse to leave 4chan, people that aren't fond of change.
>how often my concerns are ignored
>to be the only one who disagrees
>The mods ignore it as well
an assumption
>In all honesty I wouldn't mind at all if say, we were to be nothing more then a single thread on /trash/
see this is the mindset I'm so adverse to, have more respect for yourself anon you don't have to be treated like that and if you ask me someone only deserves to be treated like that if they tolerate that kind of treatment.
>but its become less and less fun
find/make other things here that are fun, why not try to become a drawfag or something?
>your right to an extent there is very little reason for me to remain.
again you're missing my point, it's just my opinion, but I think you should change the way you look at things, I also said if you can't you should go back but that isn't the only thing I said

>>108764
> but everything that was good about that site is right god damned here
except a lot of anons, we need to promote mlpol.net and not just on 4chan so it becomes more active
>It may have the domain name, but that site sure as fuck isn't 4chan.
which is why I say there's no point to going back, any decent communities that are there should come here if they won't it's not worth going back for
>Yes, and the best way to do that isn't by telling them that they must go cold turkey or fuck off.
that's what I'm in favor of, but it's also true that beggars can't be choosers
>It isn't by telling them that everything they liked about 4chan was shit and that they must replace the color green with the color orange.
everything that they liked about 4chan is either gone are on it's way out. Like anon filly threads for example. Rather than us hating 4chan anon's it's 4chan's mods and admins that hate them.
>Contrary to popular belief, we do get newcomers, the Anonfilly thread was this.
sure, but not enough newcomers. Besides which it doesn't seem like the filly posters contribute much to the rest of the site because as I said before /mlp/ posters aren't sold on politics or vise versa

>>108734
>I remember we had an encounter with the alt-bronies and it didn't go very well
We can try again or we can try getting some of the bronies that watch TCR to come here.
>we have more to gain redpilling people who are bluepilled rather than those who simply aren't as redpilled as us
Those people can help us red pill other people.

>>108772
>except a lot of anons, we need to promote mlpol.net and not just on 4chan so it becomes more active
Again, there is risk, so we'd better be damned sure we can assimilate the newcomers before bringing them here, or this site could wind up becoming just like 4chan is now in time. Though the swastikas, horse pussy and Vrilfags should be enough to ward away all but the most resolute normie.

>which is why I say there's no point to going back, any decent communities that are there should come here if they won't it's not worth going back for
Except to fish them here

>that's what I'm in favor of, but it's also true that beggars can't be choosers
Yeah, just a matter of making this place more appealing, and one of the factors is activity levels rather than quality, oddly enough.

>everything that they liked about 4chan is either gone are on it's way out.
And settling here, hopefully.

>sure, but not enough newcomers. Besides which it doesn't seem like the filly posters contribute much to the rest of the site because as I said before /mlp/ posters aren't sold on politics or vise versa
Not as a rule, no, but I'm an /mlp/ poster from filly who's sold on politics

>>108763
>>108769
>see this is the mindset I'm so adverse to, have more respect for yourself anon you don't have to be treated like that and if you ask me someone only deserves to be treated like that if they tolerate that kind of treatment.

Also this. Have some self respect. I still visit /b/ from time to time because it was the first 4chan board I ever visited and the only one I really cared about for at least the first couple years I was there, and it sometimes makes me genuinely angry to see how much garbage is piled up there, yet something like /mlpol/ has no place on the site to exist other than /trash/. The /qa/ weebs are annoying but at least they're trying to keep some small piece of old 4chan alive; I'd rather see /b/ given to them or even be deleted than see it exist as what it is now. Fucking trap threads, furry porn threads, cuckolding threads, creepshot threads, loli threads, that's the kind of shit that belongs on /trash/. Yet all that stuff is allowed to exist on the board that used to be the most infamous board on the site, a community that literally created modern internet culture; meanwhile there's a global rule against posting pictures of cartoon horses, which is basically the only rule that is ever enforced. I still remember the "official" pony threads that used to get posted on /b/ 24/7 back around 2011-2012, I didn't go anywhere near them at the time because it seemed like pure autism, which I kind of regret now obviously, but in any case that was better than the crap that gets dumped there now. 4chan is like The Simpsons, just a dead husk of its former self that needs to be put out of its misery already.

>>108778
>4chan is like The Simpsons, just a dead husk of its former self that needs to be put out of its misery already.
Or bought, have its staff purged publicly, install a team of people who care deeply about the site and start handing out public bans like hotcakes to fags.

>>108766
>like, what the hell do you mean by this?
Read my above posts faggot.
>>108769
>were we not betrayed
Say what you will to justify it but your feelings come first and then you try to justify it with that.
>because of people like you in them that refuse to leave 4chan
I accept that the communities were formed on a site and its unrealistic to think we can just move over and be fine. This site is living proof of it.
>an assumption
An assumption backed by silence.
>mindset I'm so adverse to
Your adverse to being a single thread when we were once a board? Your adverse to being on /trash/?
In all honestly it would have been better off if we not only stayed on 4chan in either /trash/ or /mlp/ but if we remained a single thread. We wouldn't have bled out so hard. But muh principles. I don't want ol' moddy treating me bad!
>find/make other things here that are fun, why not try to become a drawfag or something
Ignoring the point.
>I also said if you can't you should go back but that isn't the only thing I said
Yeah, well thats my problem at least. My view on the community has been becoming one such that I'm an outsider rather then in on all the fun. I'm not sure if its because I have since changed or if /mlpol/ has. My gut tells me that its a mix of both.

>>108774
if I remember right the "alt-bronies" were just right leaning guys who were bronies, they didn't connect mlp to politics like we do and didn't really get it when we explained it.
>Those people can help us red pill other people.
bother are good, but we stand to gain more winning over the other side. With voting as an example further winning over someone who is already aligned with us is worth 1 vote, but winning over an enemy is worth 2 because they would have voted against us.
>>108776
> there is risk
I understand, but there is also reward, as it stands we run the risk of getting less and less active over time and we'll need to get new people eventually so long term I think it's riskier to wait.
>Except to fish them here
sure, I'm talking about posting there, and broadly speaking I have nothing against fishing on 4chan my complaint is that we only fish there and hardly anywhere else.
>just a matter of making this place more appealing, and one of the factors is activity levels
again if we try to compete in terms of activity we'll lose to most other imageboards and other sites, any we'd beat don't have enough users for a decent fishing so we need to find another factor we can use to sell this place to people.
>And settling here, hopefully.
hard to say, I've been trying to run the Sunday prayer thread on /üb/ but it hasn't been very successful, though I'll be patient and keep trying.
>I'm an /mlp/ poster from filly who's sold on politics
what sold you on /pol/ then, can we use it on other /mlp/ anons?

>>108778
the main thing keeping people on 4chan is their own unwillingness to change and leave the place. I don't want to be mean to people, but it's not something we should tolerate here.

>>108788
>Say what you will to justify it but your feelings come first and then you try to justify it with that.
well I feel like we were betrayed, and there's plenty of evidence to that effect. If you disagree with me I'd rather you just come out and say it, and explain why.
>I accept that the communities were formed on a site and its unrealistic to think we can just move over and be fine.
based on what? this is just defeatism anon, what can be done on 4chan that can't be done here?
>backed by silence.
silence isn't evidence anon, seems a little hypocritical to be like this when you're accusing me of "just trying to justify my feelings"
>Your adverse to being a single thread when we were once a board? Your adverse to being on /trash/?
I'm adverse to putting up with how the people running 4chan treat us, especially when we have an alternative
>But muh principles
Fucking hell anon, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and look in a mirror, I'd really think you'd be happier if you'd change even a little considering the kind of person you're coming off as
>Ignoring the point.
is the point not; how much fun you're having on here?
>I'm an outsider
well you don't have to be.
>I have since changed or if /mlpol/ has
you haven't really clearly nailed down how either were in this "before" you allude to, so I can't really hazard a guess.

Huh, this thread again. Last time this thread was poppin', the UID count on the main-page was at ~1650. Its at 2000+ now, and that with /vx/ removed from the tally.

>>108789
Years ago, I didn't care about politics at all, how they worked or the interactions between different governments. You know, the standard apathy most kids have towards that sort of thing. Then getting into MLP put me more on the liberal side of things, globalism, immigration, race mixing, communism, really sick shit. Ironic considering in this country you learn from a young age that all abbos are subhumans and that mindset alone should push people towards conservatism. Used to be a fag, went on /mlp/ in 2014, became a different kind of fag, got exposure to /pol/ through /mlp/, got annoyed when it was forced, took note when it wasn't.

Then /mlpol/ happened. I got roped into watching The Greatest Story Never Told, and since we're not really taught as rigorously to hate Hitler and the Reich here, it was eye opening to learn some actual unbiased history.

tl;dr, Hitler inspired me to love my country and my race above all else and that the world is broken and needs fixing. So it wasn't really any one thing.

>>108535
>Post gore, horse pussy, and /d/ tier porn in the shill threads. I advise using gore because it will give shitlibs PTSD. Use decaying bodies for the best results.
incidentally why don't we have any real amount of sexually explicit pony gore to use against shills?

>>108803
You'd be surprised.

>>108802
>Hitler inspired me to love my country and my race above all else and that the world is broken and needs fixing. So it wasn't really any one thing.
have you watched any of his other speeches? there's a youtube that iirc goes by HistoryTruths that puts together some good stuff

>>108806
A few, I'm not familiar with however many he did, but of the ones I've watched, the words stick.

>>108805
I've looked on derpibooru but haven't found much, also I remember there was also a thread about it a while back by some anon that said he jacked off to gore before getting into mlp and was looking for some.
pics related
but anyway it doesn't seem like we have a lot especially a stock big enough to fight shills on 4chan

>>108795
>If you disagree with me I'd rather you just come out and say it, and explain why.
Arguing over sematics at this point my only point is that you feel this way.
>based on what?
Already explained this.
>I'm adverse to putting up with how the people running 4chan treat us
/mlp/ formed from conflict, we left instead of continuing to fight, and so we lost.
>happier if you'd change
>Happie if I agreed
I bet I would but I don't.
>how much fun you're having on here
I've had a blast with past events. Our fist cup was likely my favorite thing I've done with teh community here. But now… No. Somethings changed.
>well you don't have to be.
Just become like me and agree to everything that is killing us. Pic related
>haven't really clearly nailed down how either were in this "before"
Its a feeling more then something easily definable. Its just how our board culture has evolved and that I haven't moved along with it. Either that or our board culture has stayed the same and I've changed. Regardless I've said enough to shit up this thread.

>>108807
seen these yet?
https://youtu.be/vDbzyIHJs4g
https://youtu.be/sle1E9QgHNE
https://youtu.be/aC7mCNKK9YA

>>108811
>/mlp/ formed from conflict, we left instead of continuing to fight, and so we lost.
founding our own sight isn't losing anon, you understand little of tactics or strategy
>Somethings changed.
it would be helpful if you could nail down what in specific terms it was, so the rest of us can consider if it was for the better or worse
>everything that is killing us.
the way I see it, you who doesn't support mlpol.net who'd rather go back to 4chan, who'd rather be a single thread on /trash/ rather than having our own site with mods we can work with, are the one with the mindset that's killing us.
>Its a feeling more then something easily definable.
well explain how you feel more clearly. What was our board culture before, how has it changed, etc.?

>>108812
That last one was new to me, and I kinda wish they'd cut back on the epic music, it detracts from the gravity of the information.

>>108817
I'm sure if you looked around you could find unedited tapes and full transcripts in english. Propaganda like this is supposed to have a little flair. Here's the pdf of mein kampf if you haven't read it yet.

>>108819
Looks like I've got reading to do.

>>108836
it's a good one

>>108700
>>108704
>>108706
>>108727
>>108753
>>108763
>>108788
>>108811
>>108815
/mlpol/ is continuing to die. If it were not for the anonfilly threads, the main board would be bearly reaching 100 posts daily. It is slowing down, and is less fun. Why? The alternative websites do it better. 4/pol/ and 8/pol/ are better at being political than /mlpol/ ever will be. /mlp/, /pone/, and the other rotting corpes of failed mlp chan sites are better at being pony than /mlpol/ ever will be. /mlpol/ can not compete with against competitors that do it better.

Staying the course will lead to the death of /mlpol/. This place has changed, but that is because it needs to change. Let /pol/ be /pol/. Let /mlp/ be /mlp/. Focus on making /mlpol/ be /mlpol/. Not just some meme bullshit of ponies+politics where it fails, but its own unique entity. We /mlpol/ must become the Third Alternative. There are, however some steps in achieving that process.

As was previously said, we must consolidate. Killing boards is one thing, but also dealing with the problems of the discord. Discord is cancer, and is a surefire way to kill a community over time. Discord users must be diverted here. Next is to come up with original threads. It's nice to fish, and get discordfags here, but what reason do they have to come here? Make threads. An example is the rightwing animal protection effort concept that was made in a thread from earlier. Maybe we can develop that concept further? There is still some time to come back from the brink. I want to fuck off, but I want this place to have success. Failure to acknowledge problems and act are them is delusion. I will not stay here and deal with it.

>>108845
This, can we make R.A.P.E. an actual thing? I don't want to have saved this for nothing.

>>108845
defeatism and alarmism isn't necessary anon, let's just have a discussion instead of a crisis. I still think we should fish for users outside of just 4chan and we should make more of an effort to connect ponies and politics

>>108845
One of the reasons the Discord exists is for communication between the staff and the users, yes? Should they disband it and stick to /qa/ for that?

>>108851
isn't that the exact function /qa/ was meant for?

>>108848
sure but how? should we set up a website and start a real charity or something? I'm not doing anything irl I'll tell you that much

>>108851
I think so, unless there's some necessity for it being on discord, having it here would promote more transparency

>>108852
Yes.

>>108854
I'm not entirely sure how to go about it myself, either. should we start a new thread, or revive the old one it started in?

>>108856
well first what would it be? an activist movement? a charity?

>>108857
I'd imagine a hybrid of the two, optimally. Anons who don't want to go out and do the stuff or can't for certain reasons can fund those who can, and then results happen. That's just my idea though, but it's a start.

>>108848
I really want to, that was some of the most fun I had on this site besides the 4cc stuff.
>>108849
It is in decline, and it feels like some don't think it is. Also I think that was our 4cc manager that said he will be packing his bags. He likes to avatarfag ponks. That deeply disturbs me.
>>108851
No, but a lot of the things that happen in there not only can be on the board, but would benefit be being here.
>>108854
>>108856
>>108857
>>108858
I actually wanted to start a thread where we write a letter one word at a time to the petting zoo where that pony was raped by Muslims. I would have enclosed $20 dollars in there as a "grant" to assist the pony with therapy.

>>108858
irl activism always gets cringy as shit, and violates anonymity. I would however love to raise money to help animals especially if it helped promote /mlpol/ too

>>108859
why didn't you make the thread? I'm pretty sure anons would have been on board.

>>108860
you do have a point, maybe R.A.P.E. could just start as a way to raise money and promote us.

>>108862
well how would we get the money to animals? are there pony centric charities out there that help horses, how is a charity online run anyway?

>>108862
I will tomorrow then. I'll make the letterhead for the letter tonight, and i'll use the envelope printing machine at work to print the address. My only question is, what should the return address be? If they send a letter back, I sure as hell am not making the return address my place.

>>108859
>It is in decline, and it feels like some don't think it is
I think part of the reason the site has slown down is that the next semester has started. I know that a lot of the users are in uni, myself include.

>>108864
how is a charity online run anyway?
Very poorly, and are usually scams. We can figure it out in a dedicated thread tomorrow.

>>108864
I'm going to have to google some stuff, and I'll get back to you either when I have answers or I forget what I'm doing.

>>108865
I don't know, where does atlas live?but seriously, I don't know. you may just have to bite the bullet, sadly.

>>108872
is this a hint? I think SnK is supposed to take place in a fictional germany

>>108864
I found an article listing steps to do this, but I don't know how well it will actually work for us.
>http://archive.fo/XzYuD

>>108810
oh are we having a fluffy thread?
here's my OC

>>108872
Do you have a PO box you are willing to sacrifice? You own s rightwing equestrianism forum, being the chairman of a Nazi-backed charity is not much worse.

There's a group of people on IRC working on that problem since a while, an ongoing movement, it's called Operation Lazarus. Exposing the shills and cryptojews on /pol/, god forbid the corrupt staf they have there. They did unearth a lot of shit about the current state of /pol/ and 4chan in general. Myself I no longer go there.

Come check #lazarus on Rizon

https://www.irccloud.com/invite?channel=%23lazarus&hostname=irc.rizon.net&port=6667

Turns out there's some kind of contract between Shareblue (Clinton hardcore supporters) and 4chan boards. Including /mlp/. Meanwhile the staff *does* ban any kind of unpleasant info, protecting pedophiles, podesta, deleting threads about the Pizzagate, and other important shit.
Even the Shia LaBeouf's Art project that turned into a flag capture challenge gets you banned. (Frenchies got it hanged twice so far!)(right one of them was a furry)

There's We need to resurrect Anonymous. We need to bring back the spirit of community we had last decade, because what's going on will be dirty.

In the meantime we have Infinitechan or 8ch.net for non-biased info and threads. Slower, but smarter.

4Chan is suffering a massive meltdown right now.
Many boards inoperable, posting difficult and error ridden, and images are entirely offline.
Now is a good time to drop some lines.

>>109305
What boards?

>>109305
>4Chan is suffering a massive meltdown right now.
good riddance
>Now is a good time to drop some lines.
worth a shot but there's only so much we can do for those that won't help themselves