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Golly was right (unintentionally))
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When Cozy Glow ridded the land of all magic, she was unintentionally changing society for the better. Without magic as a crutch, they could get stronger and healthier to survive the coming wars after equestria was infiltrated by the school creatures

Also it would better match the Bible, which actually forbids >magic
>divination (remember the scene where twilight drank the zecora potion and had a vision?)
>spiritism (the wendigos, the tree when it started conversing with them)
>casting spells

Golly wanted power and was using witchcraft to fight witchcraft though, which is not the right way to go about it. The passage forbidding magic says to be blameless, and Jesus said similarly to be perfect as God the Father is perfect. So to fight witchcraft, you only need to repent of practicing witchcraft and refuse to participate further.

So, my question is, for those who believe in Jesus and follow Him, why should we keep watching the show which is centered on magic?

on judgement day, even though we will be forgiven for it, won't it feel strange to look Jesus in the eyes and have to explain why we loved fictional things that practice magic, which is in direct opposition to Him? Why would a Christian hoard merch depicting satanic symbols, or collect books that tell stories about worshiping false gods or idols? Similarly, why would Christians watch shows centered on promiscuous sex or other sins?

With MLP specifically they cast spells in pretty much every episode, and their solution to every major problem is magic. These actions are abhorrent to God. These spiritual sins are described like committing adultery against God.

So again I ask, if you were married, would you like your wife to watch a show about another man, and then she buys merch of it and spends her life adoring the other man from the show? Wouldn't it feel weird if you asked her to not be with another man, but she started wearing shirts depicting committing adultery with that man on the shirt?

Aren't we doing this to God when we love things that are sin?

Deuteronomy 18:9-14
"When you enter the land which the Lord your God gives you, you shall not learn to imitate the detestable things of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For whoever does these things is detestable to the Lord; and because of these detestable things the Lord your God will drive them out before you. You shall be blameless before the Lord your God. For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do so."

Matthew 5:48
"Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

For all of us, Jesus said unless we repent, we will all perish. And unless we believe in Him, we will die in our sins. But whoever believes in Him will live even if he dies.
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>>394769
>>this is hardline, it will affect the trout population
wat? I think Google Translate might have shat the bed on you there, chief.
Anonymous
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>>394863
>searching demon hunter is all gooner shite
It's absolutely fricked. I can't look up motorcycle videos without the
"shorts" recommending Ben10 loli-on-beast incest porn to me
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>>394860
>>394885
>and i follow the da'wa of muhammad ibn abdul al wahhab
>Well for a beginner like you i'd suggest you should read kitab al tawheed, sharh nawaqid al islam, sharh al qawaid al arba, and kashf al shubuhat
>Those only explain to you the basics of tawheed, the hadith narration stuff can wait
Bro , believe me , neither the us nor your own government is funding isis anymore
So why are you still trying to recruit people ?
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>>394873
>I am being a serious muslim right now.
Well well , let's see , Mr.serious-wahhabi...
What are you doing on a pony porn site that shows non-hijab , sexualized ponies?
Isn't that supposed to be haram for you?
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I don't get how , after like 7 or 8 crusades , humanity still hasn't figured out that religious wars are literally the gayest kind of fights ever.
Just chill out! My religion , your religion.
Stop preaching so much !
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>>394917
>So why are you still trying to recruit people ?
Trvst the plan.
>>394918
I came to mlpol because i love ponies and politics, obviously
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>>394920
I'm not saying you're just shitposting. In fact , you made some interesting points. i'm mostly referring to that argentine guy and that arab.
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>>394919
the truth is, Jesus is the only way to have eternal life. All other ways lead to destruction
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>>394921
>Trvst the plan.
<gif related
>I came to mlpol because i love ponies and politics, obviously
ABSOLUTELY HARAM !!!
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>>394925
>gifrel
I would tell you if you were a based muwahid chad like me but unfortunately you're probably some soy mubtadi' virgin or something
>ABSOLUTELY HARAM !!!
Nothing haram about ponies or politics
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>>394919
That's basically never going to happen
Anonymous
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>>394923
Honestly , i don't have the patience to write a whole essay like the others(especially not with some preachy chat gpt) , so i'll just ask one thing : what the hell were those people supposed to do who lived before jesus christ?
Anonymous
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OP got himself sucked into a Christian doomsday cult and has been proselytizing on every single platform he has access to. He has been warned off of and kicked from several >dicksword channels already and he's still continued this shtick despite how much people tell him what he's doing is actively harmful to the faith, which is likely intended as it can fuel his persecution complex so the cult he joined can sink its claws into him further.
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>>394926
>I would tell you if you were a based muwahid chad like me but unfortunately you're probably some soy mubtadi' virgin or something
Oh noooo , how dare you not share your master plan with me!
>Nothing haram about ponies or politics
Yeah , no doubt muhammad abdul-wahhab would have proudly endorsed trolling on a pony porn forum as 100% halal. Totally in line with the pure salafi spirit...
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>>394927
>...but if they desist...
I like how quran basically refutes you itself(this is honestly one of the few reasons i still have some respect for islam).
When quran itself says that if they desist and stop waging war against islam out of stubborn hatred , then there should be no fighting , why the hell are you people still acting so horny for blood?
Like seriously , blowing up a plane or detonating yourself in a crowd of random civilians does not spread 'the religion of allah' , nor does it stop anyone from waging war on islam.
So if quran says peace is possible , then how did you geniuses decide you know better than god himself and say it's not?
Also , one question : how the hell did you decide you are the true muslims?
Most sunnis and shias despise you.
Have you ever stopped to think maybe you're not the good guys after all?
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>>394931
That's because they don't use the Quran, they use the other Islamic book that does tell them to wage war against all unbelievers. I honestly forget the name of the book, at the moment.
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There is an unacceptable lack of Golly in this thread.
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>>394930
>Oh noooo , how dare you not share your master plan with me!
Sorry chuddy that's just how it is
>Yeah , no doubt muhammad abdul-wahhab would have proudly endorsed trolling on a pony porn forum as 100% halal. Totally in line with the pure salafi spirit...
Porn in general is haram but ponies alone aren't
>...When quran itself says that if they desist and stop waging war against islam out of stubborn hatred , then there should be no fighting...
This entire argument is retarded because it's implying that they did desist in the first place which is not true, muslims get persecuted every day by kaffir regimes and the only solution to this is removing the kuffar from all ruling states, we're literally commanded to fight them until they become fully submissive to us, and when this happens then you can finally decide if they did "desist" or not
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the sad fact that this thread is still active for no reason
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>>394945
Always sage
Anonymous
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>>394928
Jesus mentions Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophets being in the kingdom of heaven. My guess is they had faith that God would make a way, and that was enough. Or some of them The way was later revealed to be Jesus
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Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me". And "unless you believe in Me, you will die in your sin"

All other ways lead to destruction. Islam is a false way. The only way to have eternal life is to repent and believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God
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>>394953
Muslims believe in Jesus too, don't they?
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>>394954
They believe that He was just a prophet, not the Son of God. The Bible says Jesus is the Son of God
Anonymous
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>>394954
muslims respect jesus (issah as they call him) as one of the big al-anbya (big prophets)
>>394955
>The Bible says ,Jesus is the Son of God
your bible says that
mine says he was sent from elohim to be the messiah of of judaism to save them from their darkness and wrong doings
yashua never meant to create a new religion
but he got kill by roman / or some say god disappeared him
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>>394952
Jesus is attributed to have said alot of things, but only from one primary source
>>394954
There was definitively a man with whom the story of Jesus is derived
>>394955
This is the crux of Christianity. Prior to Jesus, it was an enlightenment movement, where "Kristos" (greek word) or "Illuminated" was the idea. But then "Kristos Yedhevoshuvauhe" showed up and people started losing their minds with mystical this and magical that.
https://youtu.be/8twmwmphaa0?si=Ijj2fVoNDY6auhW4 [Embed]
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>>394958
>Jesus is attributed to have said alot of things, but only from one primary source
and thanks to constantine , a lot of those variation of bible books have been burned
so we don't what was the actual differences between them
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>>394956
it's not supposed to be a new religion. Jesus said the law and the prophets are still in effect until heaven and earth pass away. He came to do the will of the Father and to fulfill scripture.

He got killed by the Romans on behalf of the Jews, dying as a sacrifice for our sins. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. And He is the Son of God.

what Bible do you even have if it does not have the full gospel in it? Jesus said we all must repent from sin and believe in Him to have eternal life. He is the only way
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>>394958
I don't know what you are claiming.

Jesus did live, Himself not some guy who a story was made up about later. And He did die by crucifixion. And He did rise from the dead three days later

The word "Christ" means the same as the Hebrew word for "Messiah". John 1:41 even spells that out directly, using both. Jesus is the fulfillment of the prophecies about the Messiah. And He will fulfill the other set of those prophecies when He returns
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>>394960
please just call him Yashua at least pronounce his name right
>He got killed by the Romans on behalf of the Jews,
yes , the god's chosen ones killed his prophet
so god gave up on them
>dying as a sacrifice for our sins
no he died by jews' sins , he should not have died
>>394962
>He did rise from the dead three days later
who saw that to write it?
the witnesses say they went for his corpse in his coffin but he was not there
and after that yashua never said anything else
so where the fuck you western christian still have a big ass bible full of words after his death?
it makes it look like jesus was just talking forever
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>"Christ" means the same as the Hebrew word for "Messiah"
messiah does not came from meaning of saviour per say
it also means someone who is baptised
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>>394941
>Porn in general is haram but ponies alone aren't
you should ask an 'alem' , maybe it is considered as simple sinful thoughts?
but i personally don't think islam nor christianity ever said anything about fictional characters
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imo
a fictional drawing does not deserve to have human rights
nor should be treated as a real being
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>pic
that ayeh is related to the time that in context , muhammed and his followers were getting killed by kaffirs and mushreks in koofeh (or some other place , can't remember)
Anonymous
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>>394964
okay there is one asshole on the internet who talked about it
https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/88793/pornographic-cartoons
porn imagery seems to be haram
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as Allah said ''there be a NO FUN ALLOWED sign and it appeared''
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>>394964
>that ayeh is related to the time that in context , muhammed and his followers were getting killed by kaffirs and mushreks...
Not pretty different from what's happening to muslims in the modren time lol
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>>394963
After He rose, He appeared to the apostles, and then to a larger group of them. He made several appearances after rising from the dead before going up into heaven.
Anonymous
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>>394968
yea cause muslim themselves are known for being calm and peaceful
yeah i know there are things like that happening like palestinians , chinese uighurs
but still , so many islami terrorists are around the world as well
>>394972
the more you explain it , the more you make it sound like a fake ass mythology
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>>394941
>Sorry chuddy that's just how it is
Fuck it! I really wanted to know your 'no plan' plan...
>Porn in general is haram but ponies alone aren't
Don't play word games with me !
Every fool knows that ponies aren't haram , but :
What site are you on??
'I am on mlpol'
Write this sentence 100 times , maybe then you'll understand what i mean.
I'm not making any claims , but you have to admit that , contrary to what you say , you're not a serious muslim.
No one on this site is truly religious.
I'm neither christian nor a real muslim , but i seriously hate those who falsely call themselves christian or muslim and just troll around(like you and that argentinian guy) !
>This entire argument is retarded because it's implying that they did desist in the first place which is not true, (((muslims get persecuted every day by kaffir regimes))) and (((the only solution to this is removing the kuffar from all ruling states))), we're literally commanded to fight them until they become fully submissive to us, and when this happens then you can finally decide if they did "desist" or not
This argument doesn't claim that they had renounced war in the beginning. Christians in general don't have a great record in this regard(they literally started the crusades themselves) , but what this argument(and the quran)is saying is that they have the potential to stop. They might give up and make peace. It depends on both your actions and theirs. But ultimately , everyone is human and has an innate nature inclined toward peace.
Also , the verse you cited was from surah at-tawbah , which was read against the arab pagans and kafers(your ancestors)as a declaration of disavowal and warning. I also know that before 2001(aside from israel)no one had harmed muslims more than those very kafers of Mecca(and ironically , wahhabis today don't even attack that same israel!). Muslims and christians were often oppressed by governments. Whether those rulers claimed islam or christianity doesn't matter , they used religion as an excuse to harm people , and both sides did this. So your argument doesn't hold.
Quran never said the solution is just to kill kafers(especially christians and other monotheists , that's even further off). And what i like here is that quran again answers you directly : people should pay jizya willingly and humbly. I doubt someone like you , who beheads captives , enslaves women , and even cuts political opponents(like khashoggi)with bone saws and acid , would ever receive anything willingly from anyone.
So here's some unfriendly advice from someone who doesn't give a fuck about your ridiculous version of 'jihad' : if you want to follow the quran's instructions , then start respecting those instructions. Otherwise , whatever you are , you're not muslim.
Also , you're not god , nor are you even a widely accepted muslim among other muslims , so you're in no position to decide others' fate.
And as for your dream of world domination:
Isis couldn't even fully conquer syria or iraq. Jolani(whom that fool erdogan supports)can't even maintain a stable government. And your own state is still stuck fighting tribal yemenis. So how exactly do you plan to conquer the world???
I think i should turn your own words back at you:
'That's basically never going to happen.'
The only thing you did was kill a bunch of ordinary people , tarnish the name of islam , and give stupid evangelical christians even more excuse to act more foolish than before. You were , essentially , the most effective enemies of islam. Congratulations to you , faggots!
Anyway , I have to sleep. Bye
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>>394976
>I have to sleep. Bye
yes but jesus said he is the god and i saw him because he touched me yesterday /impersonation
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>>394975
You're saying that as if the reason some regimes persecute muslims is because they care about islamic terrorism or whatever, but they don't
It's just non reasonable racism
>>394976
>...I'm not making any claims , but you have to admit that , contrary to what you say , you're not a serious muslim.
>No one on this site is truly religious.
>I'm neither christian nor a real muslim , but i seriously hate those who falsely call themselves christian or muslim and just troll around(like you and that argentinian guy) !
You're basically saying that if someone posts on a site where porn is often shared by other users (which is somehow his fault) automatically becomes unserious about his religion, fuck off faggot you don't have any valid reason to prove anything about my religious beliefs
<REDDIT SPACE
Okay you're just being straight up retarded further text, you're bringing your personal views into the conversation and make it look like the quran agrees with it
It literally doesn't matter if christians or other non-muslims "reannounce the war" or not, qouting back to >>394941 the quran clearly and simply commands us to fight the disbelievers until there's no fitna, that's it, no more outline shenanigans about it.
If you make a reply to this post i most likely won't reply back so don't even bother
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Jesus is the Son of God! He is the only way to have eternal life
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You all need Golly
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>>394983
Ew, a hag
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>>394670
>>394982
>John 17:21: in order that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, in order that the world may believe that you sent me forth.
>John 17:21: That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
>Иоанн 17:21: Да будут все едино, как Ты, Отче, во Мне, и Я в Тебе, так и они да будут в Нас едино, – да уверует мир, что Ты послал Меня.

>James 1:17: Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, Who does not change like shifting shadows.
>Иаков 1:17: Всякое даяние доброе и всякий дар совершенный нисходит свыше, от Отца светов, у Которого нет изменения и ни тени перемены.

>>393907
>>394685
>Fuck off Jesus, I'm not doing that.
I noticed, that in western translation used phrase "may be", but in Orthodox bible there is "will be". This is paramount idea of theosis. Salvation can be achieved only when faithful will become a God. However not with the help of vanity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosis_(Eastern_Christian_theology)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian)

Теперь звезда восходит, ведёт нас тёплый бриз.
Мой лорд подарит пламя, падут заклятья вниз.
Простой молитвы время, для наших общих слёз.
Теперь и эта песня, звучит для лживых звёзд.

I think I finally understand the magic problem. This is the way of vanity. The false theosis.
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>>394982
i hope you end up like jesus
Anonymous
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>>394929
Yeah , basically this guy and that wahhabi arab are in a race to disgrace religions.
One says christianity means living like a dumb , jobless hippie just to reach the kingdom of heaven , and the other says islam means killing and bloodshed to get 72 heavenly virgins.
I don't care about the religion itself here , my problem is that these people are trying to troll religion and pit everyone against each other.
>>394932
Yeah , basically the whole foundation of wahhabism and salafism is exactly that. They don't care about quran at all , they believe only in the surface meaning of the text , without even looking at its conditions , and they think you're not supposed to reflect on what quran says(even though quran itself commands reflection 'surah sad , verse 29, for example : "a blessed book which we have revealed to you , that they may reflect upon its verses…"').
Instead , they go and accept the thoughts and 'philosophy'(which they don't even have)based on books written by a foolish arab with british help.(yeah , wahhabi is a british thing...)
Essentially , wahhabism is a dry-minded , foolish , violent , and arrogant sect that most muslims don't even consider to be muslim.
isn't that book the same as these?( >>394885 )i mean , they're basically all just wahhabi preaching stuff.
>>394933
Where did you find this 'Loli Golly' video? It's really cute.
>>394945
These things need to be said eventually. I don't think it's upsetting.
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>>394977
Oh , no no... he wasn't jesus , he was abdul-wahhab. Last night he came to me in a dream and said if you don't become wahhabi , in the afterlife 72 virgin men will fuck you. I told him I'm not gay , and then he shut up.
Absolutely based
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>>394993
>One says christianity means living like a dumb , jobless hippie just to reach the kingdom of heaven
This would be completely acceptable if he actually became a monk and cloistered himself, but instead he's here on a pony site telling us to give up ponies.
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>>394990
Jesus preached the kingdom of heaven, not mysticism. He said practically, we should labor for the Father's harvest now, and we will be rewarded when He returns. He didn't say to seek to become like God like that.

He said follow Him, not practice church traditions in isolation to feel things. He said go out into all the world and preach the gospel
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>>395002
I'm saying Jesus said there's a reward for the labor. So why waste time with things of the world, which don't give any reward eternally
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Just leaving this here
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>>395020
Yeah, western tradition made a long way from Orthodox church. Totally Heretical. Schism!

But okay, let's allow other to be.

>>395022
Also, why you, salafites, don't like cute historical things? Never understand this part.
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>>395024
it's important to obey Jesus' instructions as written though. I don't get why man invents every other possible thing to add to it while choosing to not do the few things Jesus did specifically say we should do

As a warning for all of us in every denomination/sect, Jesus asked the crowds "why do you call me 'Lord, Lord', but do not do what I say?" He then described that whoever listens and obeys His words is like a man who built a house. First he dug deep to build a foundation on the rock. When the house was finished, a storm came and a flood slammed into the house, but it stood firm because it was well-built.

And Jesus said whoever hears His words but doesn't put them into practice, he is like a man who built his house directly on top of the sand. When the storm came, the winds blew, and the flood slammed into the house, the house fell. And great was its fall.

So it's critically important to not only hear Jesus' words, but to put them into practice. For each of us individually
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>>395024
What do you mean?
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>>395022
>a meme that shows the most radical form of a shia sufi sect(and it's still cool)which just shows how narrow-minded and meaningless wahhabism is.
Alright bro , if you're gonna backfire on yourself , then I'll send this too , maybe it'll help even more.
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>>395048
>sufi sect
For what I know, sufis are mostly located in Afghanistan. Sufism is a branch of islam that is heavily rooted on occultism.
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>>395053
Sufism , at its core , exists from uzbekistan and tajikistan all the way to turkey.
It's more of a concept and a method than a specific sect.
That's because we essentially have both sunni and shia sufis.
It's primarily a mystical and spiritual idea , which can even be connected to esoteric sciences.
So , essentially , it's a concept and a way of practice rather than a sect or a religion.
That was just a part of it , 'sufi bektashism'.
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>>395057
>It's primarily a mystical and spiritual idea , which can even be connected to esoteric sciences.
That's the concept for the normies. For what I know, advanced sufism may involve to summon entities through rotten bodies and other vessels involving blood.
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>>395059
Yeah. Some extremely radical minorities who have branched off from this concept do try to do such things.
But essentially , sufism cannot be fully judged , because it's extremely diverse and varied.
Personally , i don't have a problem with the mystical and divine type or method of it , because i actually find it quite rational and poetic.
But there are also people who might even elevate figures like ali to the level of god.
That mostly depends on the individual and how they interpret it.
Anonymous
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>>395053
>heavily rooted on occultism
not really , most of the sufis that i saw were chill hippy dudes
Anonymous
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>>395061
Sure, that's how they recruit in urban environments.
Anonymous
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>>395063
Let me be straight with you :
Sufis aren't some kind of freemasons or illuminati trying to recruit people and gain influence. Sufism is something you have to come to understand on your own and be drawn toward , it's not an organization , and it doesn't have a headquarters.
At its core , sufism is about getting closer to god and 'becoming one with him'. Maybe you could say it's a more mystical , islamic version of the christianity that argentine guy is talking about here.
I don't know where you heard about them , but they really don't go around recruiting anyone. In fact , these days , sufism is barely even visible in public life.
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>>395066
>but they really don't go around recruiting anyone
If they are some kind of hippies as you describe them, then I have to assume they are amiss from the path and toward a material existence.
>>395066
>Sufism is something you have to come to understand on your own and be drawn toward
Correct, they drop some breadcrumbs and the adept has to figure it out.
>it's not an organization , and it doesn't have a headquarters
Correct, but they have private sites where they gather and exercise they "mistic" abilities. It is noteworthy how powerful they are when they pool their "minds".
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>>395068
>Correct, but they have private sites where they gather and exercise they "mistic" abilities. It is noteworthy how powerful they are when they pool their "minds".
that is a bit pecisism and a bit unrealistic
most sufis live in total puverty and simple life saying none of this gifts on this planet matters and the other world/afterlife is only thing that is matter
constant meditation for spiritual awakening is not really a witchcraft practice
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>>395069
also they are heavily against murder and violence
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>>395069
>most sufis live in total puverty and simple life saying none of this gifts on this planet matters
Sure, but in no way they are chill hippies.
Anonymous
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>>395071
>Sure, but in no way they are chill hippies.
my experience shows that they are
just because they are muslim does not mean they are terrorist too
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>>395069
>constant meditation for spiritual awakening is not really a witchcraft practice
If you need turbocharged results, assistance from the other side is needed.
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>>395073
>If you need turbocharged results, assistance from the other side is needed.
angels and allah himself i guess , not necessarily demons
--
also islam claims jinns have freedom and they can choose their religions like christianity , islam etc
but even tho , quran heavily spokes against using jinns and witchcraft , and people who do that will be rejected by allah
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>>395074
>angels and allah himself i guess , not necessarily demons
Let me break a sealed secret for ya; angels and demons are the same.
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i am defending sufis when i say i hate muslims , cause they always were kind to me , even tho i wear my cross on my neck all the time.
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>>395075
>angels and demons are the same
emm...no
in christianity
demons are follower of iblis and lucifer
angels are allies of god made created by him to help humanity and be his hands
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in islam
jinns can follow whoever they want
and sheytan is the oldest jinn who gained the power of becoming an angel by praying for allah for many years
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>>395076
For what I know, sufis don't give a goat about politics. So blowing things and people is not their character.
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>>395078
>jinns can follow whoever they want
Yup, so it is up to the practitioner what to do with them. That said, abusing the jinn power quickly ends in disaster and it is comparable to give a machine gun to monkey.
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>>395080
>disaster and it is comparable to give a machine gun to monkey.
kinda true
a muslim is prohibited to use jinns for any gains
they should only ask their needs from allah ordered jinns to make people who want to use them to mislead in the wrong path
otherwise you get punished and allah for shirk
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>>395082
also some christians excuse that using witchcraft for healing and good deeds is allowed , which is a lie
there is no light or dark magic , it is just magic for personal gain , does not matter how one conceives it as a wrong doing or right doin
Anonymous
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>>395082
i write like complete fucking moron , i am an english literature student for fuck sake
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God says in the Bible to not practice witchcraft, communicate with spirits, etc. Do not learn to imitate the practices of the pagan nations. God said He hates that stuff, that we must be blameless

It's not good to do eastern meditation or seek spiritual help from beings like this.

Islam is a false way which leads to destruction. Jesus is the truth and the only way to eternal life. He said we all need to repent from sin and believe in Him
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No.395092
>>395090
You have already said this like 12 times in this thread. Why are you repeating yourself? We can just scroll up.
Anonymous
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>>395093
In the old testament there were types of angels, many serving God doing things or delivering special messages occasionally. There's also mention of "unclean spirits" and that one day God will remove all unclean spirits from the land

In the new testament, a large part of Jesus' ministry was healing the sick and casting out demons/spirits. Some people had sicknesses caused by a spirit. Jesus had authority to speak and they had to obey and leave. He gave that authority to His disciples too.

Jesus said "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine". He said to the disciples at the end of Matthew to go make disciples of all nations, teaching them all He taught them. And at the end of Mark He said these signs will follow those who believe: healing the sick, casting out demons, raising the dead, etc.

So we can be disciples of Jesus today, and have the same authority to heal the sick and to cast out demons, in Jesus' name.

But Jesus said to count the cost before trying to become a disciple, because you have to hate your own family and your own life, take up your own cross and follow Him. And that "no one can become My disciple who does not give up all his possessions"

He said to seek the kingdom of heaven first and the Father's righteousness, and all the physical needs will be taken care of
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1753460687.mov (2.5 MB, Resolution:480x848 Length:00:00:34, v09044g40000cputg8vog65oussnvec0.mov) [play once] [loop]
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>>395048
>>a meme that shows the most radical form of a shia sufi sect(and it's still cool)which just shows how narrow-minded and meaningless wahhabism is.
No it really just shows how weird and gay sufism is, i mean, men dancing in long skirts? Really?
>pic
<well known islamic figures on the right
<literal whos on the left
Not the own you think it is
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>>395096
>unclean spirits
Unclean spirits are just unclean angels. The only kind of spirits (daemons) in Christianity are angels. We only call them demons when they're unclean.
>no one can become My disciple who does not give up all his possessions
Consider giving up your computer, instead of using it to tell us to give up ponies.
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ykw? i have zero respect for OP
so again, i am gonna use him to share my drawings
Anonymous
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>>395102
>Consider giving up your computer, instead of using it to tell us to give up ponies.
thank you
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>>395103
Kek
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>>395103
That is pretty good.
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>>395103
>pic
Based.
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>>395103
Saved.
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>>395105
>>395111
>>395114
>>395127
thanks yall! /)
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>>395068
>If they are some kind of hippies as you describe them, then I have to assume they are amiss from the path and toward a material existence.
No , no , don't get it wrong. They may look like hippies , but they're actually deeply spiritual , you could even say some of them are anti-materialist.
>Correct, they drop some breadcrumbs and the adept has to figure it out.
Yeah , basically that's how some people become sufis , mostly through their poetry and literature.
>Correct, but they have private sites where they gather and exercise they "mistic" abilities. It is noteworthy how powerful they are when they pool their "minds".
It's kind of like jazz cafes or spiritual gatherings , something along those lines. But when they put their minds together , they mostly write poetry or philosophize. They're not really into material things or strategic planning.
>>395071
>Sure, but in no way they are chill hippies.
No , they're basically much more peaceful and chill than even the hippies.
>>395073
Sufis are usually patient people , so they generally prefer to spend years in inner meditation rather than resorting to 'non-sufi' methods.
>>395075
I think you already figured out what's the difference.
>>395079
Basically , sufis don't care about much. i'm not a sufi myself , but i envy them , i wish i could be like them : completely chill and free from the worries of the world , just spinning around in my own little space.
>>395080
Basically , jinn are beings kind of like endermen from minecraft , if you don't mess with them , they won't mess with you. But if you try to make contact with them , it usually doesn't end well(especially if you're inexperienced).
Contrary to what some people think , connecting with jinn is actually quite easy. You don't need to be a sufi or a religious scholar. All it really takes is some patience and strong willpower. But since 'good' jinn rarely cross your path , it's likely that the jinn you encounter might harm or disturb you.
I heard various stories and accounts from religious scholars and certain sufi figures who apparently had contact with jinn , or even had jinn obeying them. But they weren't really interested in prolonged contact , nor were they trying to exploit them. Thankfully , such people were able to control the jinn , otherwise , as you yourself might say , it would have been a disaster.
That's also why quran discourages ordinary people from seeking contact with jinn.
Of course , all of this is based on islamic beliefs , and whether or not you accept them depends entirely on your own perspective.
>>395090
For the love of god...
For the love of father...
For the love of holy spirit...
For the love of jesus...
For the love of allah...
FOR THE LOVE OF CELESTIA!!!
Please don't keep repeating yourself like a google ad , it just gets on people's nerves.
>>395100
>No it really just shows how weird and gay sufism is, i mean, men dancing in long skirts? Really?
<You look kind of surprised , like you've never seen scots before...
Anyway , i don't have a problem with them. At least they're not strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up in a crowd...
>pic
Ummm...isn't it video...?
>well known islamic figures on the right
When i saw the word 'islamic' , i almost laughed , but well , it wasn't that funny...
Anyway , the fact that you actually think these idiots are truly islamic figures isn't contradictory to your wahhabi beliefs at all...
>literal whos on the left
They are known only as much as the figures , literati , and philosophers of a minor sect of sufism. You're lucky you only mentioned the bektashis : if you had targeted sufism as a whole , then you would have been taking on greats like rumi , bayazid bastami , hallaj , and others!
Anyway , it doesn't really matter whether you know them or not , probably because they were poets and philosophers and didn't kill thousands of people , they aren't well-known to you.
>Not the own you think it is
You basically own yourself , you don't even need me to point it out , even the quran itself can easily humiliate you.
>>395103
Arkadaş! You are really hardworking! Well done!
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>>395163
>But since 'good' jinn rarely cross your path , it's likely that the jinn you encounter might harm or disturb you.
That's why in so many civilizations ritual sacrifices were the norm, blood must feed the jinn and he will let you alone.
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>>395163
it's not good to contact spiritual stuff like that. Or to try to use spiritual things to do stuff. the Bible warns not to do it.
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No.395166
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Jesus said "I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in Me will live even if they die"
Anonymous
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No.395167
>>395164
Allow me to elaborate.
We exist in a realm where it is necessary to kill, tear apart, and devour another creature to survive. Fear, pain, and death is the ABC of existence. All of which makes me to wonder if so many wars through history are a deliberated method to feed the jinns in exchange for power.
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>>395164
This could be a theory. Basically , we don't really know the philosophy behind many of these actions , but well , this could be one of the reasons. Of course , all of this is based on the assumption that jinn exist.
>pic
This symbol of iranian shiism is strangely fascinating to me.
Is it true?
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>>395165
No one said you must connect with these beings. Sufism says you should unite yourself , 'and yourself' , with god. That's all.
<damn , you're making it look like i'm promoting sufism, while i'm just responding to others here.
>>395166
Everyone is going to live again after their death , some in hell , some in heaven.
And by the way , why aren't we allowed to connect directly to god? Does it have to be through jesus as a mediator?
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Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me".
And Paul writes "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"

We can pray directly to God the Father. But because He is holy and because we have sinned, we cannot be connected with Him unless we are cleaned and the sin is removed.

1 John 1:9 says "if we confess our sin, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness"
and verse 7 says "blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin."

So it is necessary to believe in Jesus, so His blood gets applied to our account, and the sin is wiped out. The Bible says that without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin
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>>395168
>This symbol of iranian shiism is strangely fascinating to me.
>Is it true?
it think it is ali-ollahi groups , the which whom believe that ali was allah
so many stupid ass believes they have such as
'ali was the guy who saves noah's boat from someone's drilling underwater , and he came like mermaid and saved the day'
they are insane don't mind them
and that swastika can't save it
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the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast in the sea which caught all kinds of fish. when it was full, the fishermen pulled it onto the beach and began sorting the fish, the good into containers and the bad they threw out

"So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous, and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
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>>395234
Jesus actually looked like my esé , the José
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I hate that antisemitism has gone all mainstream, cuz it really puts a damper on my eternal anger over the fact that they killed jesus.
Anonymous
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>>395241
Technically, it was Roman law enforcement.

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