Hey folks (Christians and maybe others)!
Just a Muslim here, wandering around in these waters, kinda like a lot of you christers are. Wanted to share a thought that's been bugging me for a while, especially after seeing threads like the ones I'll link below:
https://mlpol.net/ub/8162@200
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/389423@200
What's really strange to me as a Muslim is this relationship and respect that it seems many of Christians have towards jews. I'm not saying I know every single detail in your Bible or your theology, no. But from our Muslim perspective, pretty much all jews throughout history have been our enemies, and still are, just like they were for Christians. Think about all the prophets and good people they killed or harassed. And even remember stories like the People of the Pit (Ashab al-Ukhdud), where believers (understood as Christians) were burned alive just for their faith. This shows how they treated those who followed God's path. So, it's weird to me that you guys have to respect them so much, or at least feel obliged to accept them.
We Muslims, especially us Shias, actually don't have a problem with Christians at all. On the contrary, we even respect them. Maybe you'll be surprised, but we believe Jesus Christ (a great prophet of God) will return at the end times and appear alongside Imam Mahdi. And when Christ comes, real Christians will see the truth of Islam and believe in it. That's why a lot of Shias see sincere Christians as future Muslims, and prefer them to stay firm in their faith for now. This idea is very very rare concerning jews, because like I said, they've mostly been enemies.
Now, about the historical enmity between Muslims and Christians, like the Crusades or current conflicts: most of that stuff was just a political game for power, not a real religious war. And sadly, as history has shown and current evidence suggests, a lot of these games and divisions have been orchestrated by people whose name is jew, and unfortunately, they are run by them. They've been behind many of the conflicts between Muslims and Christians, trying to keep us divided. Both sides (Muslims and Christians) shouldn't fall for this.
Maybe you'll say Sunnis are different? I'm not super familiar with the exact details of all Sunni denominations either, but as far as I know, they also believe in respecting other monotheistic God-believing religions (except maybe jews, because their history is different). But about Shias, I can confidently say there's no particular enmity towards Christians, and it's even recommended to unite with other religions in these times of godlessness and immorality.
So, who is our real common enemy? The immorality and godlessness that's spread so much in modern society... and the jews. Not everyone whose name is jew, no. I mean the ones who are only jews by name, otherwise they haven't gotten a whiff of their own religion. If they were real jews and acted according to their book, over 90% of them would have converted to Christianity or Islam by now! So the ones who remained and are doing these things... well, they're not "real jews" in my opinion, but rather agents of a specific agenda.
I think now, in this sensitive global situation, we need to be careful. Who are the real enemies of humanity? It's these "jews" (by my definition) and anti-human/anti-religious ideologies like lgbt and all the other stuff destroying morality.
Those talks you see in these forums and elsewhere, saying Christianity destroyed european civilization, that comes from the exact same place that says Islam destroyed the Iranian Aryan civilization! All of this is made up by the same people who want to create division between Islam and Christianity. Their goal is to make us fight each other so they can do their work easily.
If we actually practice our religions properly, the result isn't destruction, it's the opposite! We had the Islamic Golden Age (which owed a lot to Iranian scientists by the way) in history, you had the Renaissance. These are results from times when people adhered to certain principles, not the current state of degeneracy and immorality.
So please, change your minds, go study, and see how much they have lied and are lying to us. This isn't a war between us and you. The main enemy is somewhere else.
I'm really eager to hear your thoughts. Since I don't know much about the details of the different Christian denominations (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, and all those sub-branches...) and the history of Judaism's place in Christianity, I'd appreciate it if someone could give a brief explanation. And if any of you Christians can explain why there's so much respect for Judaism in Christianity despite everything, I'd be interested to hear (from the perspective of ordinary people, not university professors).
Looking forward to your comments!
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>>389929
>They are interchangeable indeed.
Look, if someone plays Beethoven badly, you don’t blame Beethoven! Same goes for religion: if someone acts badly, it doesn’t mean the religion is bad.
>Islam is a political ideology disguised as a religion.
The truth is, religion is also a form of politics. A lot of people think politics just means guys in suits talking into microphones, but politics really means making decisions that benefit you. Ever since humans existed, politics has been part of life, from Adam eating the forbidden fruit (thinking it was good for him), to Jesus gathering his followers, to Mohammad building a society based on Islam. Religion gives a way of life, and that means it includes politics too. A religion without any political thought is incomplete. Like George Orwell said: if an artist says art has nothing to do with politics, that’s actually a political statement! Same applies to religion.
So when you say "Islam is a political ideology disguised as religion", honestly, all religions are like that in some way. That’s not unique to Islam.
>All true muslims want to change Western customs to adapt them to islam, plus to punish White People for to criticize their alien belief. Sorry, but muslims on White Lands are agents of that political ideology
Please, take out the part that says “all true Muslims want to change Western customs and punish White people.” Especially that word "true", because Islam clearly teaches justice for everyone, even those who disagree with you (Quran 4:135). It allows fighting only in self-defense, and forbids aggression (Quran 2:190). It also says there’s no compulsion in religion (Quran 2:256) and that your religion is for you, and mine is for me (Quran 109:6). Islam is against force, hate, and blind conflict. It encourages peaceful dialogue and unity.
So why do some Muslims act badly? Because, honestly, Islam came as a test. God sent it to the most ignorant people of the time: the Arabs. Just like people in Jesus’s time foolishly decided to crucify him, many Arabs after Mohammad went back to their old tribal and power-hungry ways. Just with a new excuse: Islam! They used it like a trojan horse to invade others(like Iran). Same thing happened in the Crusades, where both Christians and Muslims used religion as a cover for power games.
So no, Islam is not equal to Muslims. Don’t judge a faith by the worst people claiming it. Many of these people just wear the name “Muslim,” but they don’t live it at all.
>and expulsion is a must.
Honestly, if a Muslim acts like that, kick them out! They don’t represent Islam, and they don’t deserve to be called Muslim. Islam isn’t just a name, it’s a mindset and a way of life. If someone acts against it, they’ve already removed themselves, you’re just confirming it.
And remember, just like you wouldn’t judge Christianity by some terrible Christians, don’t judge Islam by some terrible Muslims. If you really want to know the truth about a religion, ask around, do some reading, and think for yourself!
[Read more] >They are interchangeable indeed.
Look, if someone plays Beethoven badly, you don’t blame Beethoven! Same goes for religion: if someone acts badly, it doesn’t mean the religion is bad.
>Islam is a political ideology disguised as a religion.
The truth is, religion is also a form of politics. A lot of people think politics just means guys in suits talking into microphones, but politics really means making decisions that benefit you. Ever since humans existed, politics has been part of life, from Adam eating the forbidden fruit (thinking it was good for him), to Jesus gathering his followers, to Mohammad building a society based on Islam. Religion gives a way of life, and that means it includes politics too. A religion without any political thought is incomplete. Like George Orwell said: if an artist says art has nothing to do with politics, that’s actually a political statement! Same applies to religion.
So when you say "Islam is a political ideology disguised as religion", honestly, all religions are like that in some way. That’s not unique to Islam.
>All true muslims want to change Western customs to adapt them to islam, plus to punish White People for to criticize their alien belief. Sorry, but muslims on White Lands are agents of that political ideology
Please, take out the part that says “all true Muslims want to change Western customs and punish White people.” Especially that word "true", because Islam clearly teaches justice for everyone, even those who disagree with you (Quran 4:135). It allows fighting only in self-defense, and forbids aggression (Quran 2:190). It also says there’s no compulsion in religion (Quran 2:256) and that your religion is for you, and mine is for me (Quran 109:6). Islam is against force, hate, and blind conflict. It encourages peaceful dialogue and unity.
So why do some Muslims act badly? Because, honestly, Islam came as a test. God sent it to the most ignorant people of the time: the Arabs. Just like people in Jesus’s time foolishly decided to crucify him, many Arabs after Mohammad went back to their old tribal and power-hungry ways. Just with a new excuse: Islam! They used it like a trojan horse to invade others(like Iran). Same thing happened in the Crusades, where both Christians and Muslims used religion as a cover for power games.
So no, Islam is not equal to Muslims. Don’t judge a faith by the worst people claiming it. Many of these people just wear the name “Muslim,” but they don’t live it at all.
>and expulsion is a must.
Honestly, if a Muslim acts like that, kick them out! They don’t represent Islam, and they don’t deserve to be called Muslim. Islam isn’t just a name, it’s a mindset and a way of life. If someone acts against it, they’ve already removed themselves, you’re just confirming it.
And remember, just like you wouldn’t judge Christianity by some terrible Christians, don’t judge Islam by some terrible Muslims. If you really want to know the truth about a religion, ask around, do some reading, and think for yourself!
>>389947
Our Land Our Choice.
We want the muslim aliens out of our land. Period.
Remember, access to White People is not a right.
Our Land Our Choice.
We want the muslim aliens out of our land. Period.
Remember, access to White People is not a right.
How the fuck did I end up here, on /mlpol/?! I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS.
1. Does this mean I'm a Nazi?
2. Is this a troll site?
3. If not, why do I not care???
1. Does this mean I'm a Nazi?
2. Is this a troll site?
3. If not, why do I not care???
>>389950
>Honestly, if a Muslim acts like that, kick them out! They don’t represent Islam, and they don’t deserve to be called Muslim. Islam isn’t just a name, it’s a mindset and a way of life. If someone acts against it, they’ve already removed themselves, you’re just confirming it.
Did you really read my post??! I said there's no problem if they are pushing you!
>Honestly, if a Muslim acts like that, kick them out! They don’t represent Islam, and they don’t deserve to be called Muslim. Islam isn’t just a name, it’s a mindset and a way of life. If someone acts against it, they’ve already removed themselves, you’re just confirming it.
Did you really read my post??! I said there's no problem if they are pushing you!
>>389950
I don't care about your other photos, but that third one... There's a trick where people mix a bunch of lies with some general truths, so that by seeing those truths, you subconsciously end up believing the lies too...
I don't care about your other photos, but that third one... There's a trick where people mix a bunch of lies with some general truths, so that by seeing those truths, you subconsciously end up believing the lies too...
>>389955
>Are you guys Nazis?
You could say yes. Overall, I agree with Nazi ideology (partly because I'm Aryan, and partly because I'm against forced mixing and against Jews).
>Is the pipeline shit real?
I don't think so. Even before I ever went on /pol/, I noticed the similarities just by reading Mein Kampf.
>Are you guys Nazis?
You could say yes. Overall, I agree with Nazi ideology (partly because I'm Aryan, and partly because I'm against forced mixing and against Jews).
>Is the pipeline shit real?
I don't think so. Even before I ever went on /pol/, I noticed the similarities just by reading Mein Kampf.
>>389955
>pipeline shit
You just put the wrong type of shit in your crackpipe, that's all there is to it
>pipeline shit
You just put the wrong type of shit in your crackpipe, that's all there is to it
>>389950
>Our Land Our Choice.
White people did not existed in america
if you are true to your words
get out of there and bring it back to native americans
--
joke aside
this is the planet that God (and by that i mean Our Lord Jesus) given to us and He loves everyone equally
He created all of races and languages and all ethnics
and He loves all of His servant
--
we as Christians should act fair and kind toward them so they might find our way appealing to them , and they might become a Christian too one day
--
also this stupid crusading wars between islam-fags and Christians got us no where , no winner just losers
[Read more] >Our Land Our Choice.
White people did not existed in america
if you are true to your words
get out of there and bring it back to native americans
--
joke aside
this is the planet that God (and by that i mean Our Lord Jesus) given to us and He loves everyone equally
He created all of races and languages and all ethnics
and He loves all of His servant
--
we as Christians should act fair and kind toward them so they might find our way appealing to them , and they might become a Christian too one day
--
also this stupid crusading wars between islam-fags and Christians got us no where , no winner just losers
OP you really need to stop preaching islam here
waste majority of us are Christians
and we don't wanna get manipulated to join the dark side
waste majority of us are Christians
and we don't wanna get manipulated to join the dark side
>>389980
Look, I never meant to preach Islam here. I know most people here are stubborn enough to play devil’s advocate if they don’t wanna agree with something.
I made this thread because I noticed some misunderstandings, about Islam, and also about how you see jews. I wanted to clear some things up. Honestly, I expected more people to really jump in.
Another reason was that I wanted to bring this conversation into a space that’s openly anti-Islam, to make it more challenging(for myself and for others). I wanted to hear extreme opinions, maybe learn something, and even see if it made me doubt anything about my own beliefs so I could explore further. It’s kind of a mental workout.
If you thought I was trying to promote Islam, I got that. But that wasn’t my goal, I don’t have the ability to do that, and honestly, this isn’t the kind of place where it would even work! I just wanted a honest discussion!
So, don't worry. I want to argue and have a hard discussion, and I like to have an argue with you, too. Isn’t that the whole point of sites like this??? Crazy debates between people who disagree each other??? If we weren’t here to argue, this place will have no different from something like twitter.
So, instead of trying to stop it, argue! Argue with me and say everything you want to say!
[Read more] Look, I never meant to preach Islam here. I know most people here are stubborn enough to play devil’s advocate if they don’t wanna agree with something.
I made this thread because I noticed some misunderstandings, about Islam, and also about how you see jews. I wanted to clear some things up. Honestly, I expected more people to really jump in.
Another reason was that I wanted to bring this conversation into a space that’s openly anti-Islam, to make it more challenging(for myself and for others). I wanted to hear extreme opinions, maybe learn something, and even see if it made me doubt anything about my own beliefs so I could explore further. It’s kind of a mental workout.
If you thought I was trying to promote Islam, I got that. But that wasn’t my goal, I don’t have the ability to do that, and honestly, this isn’t the kind of place where it would even work! I just wanted a honest discussion!
So, don't worry. I want to argue and have a hard discussion, and I like to have an argue with you, too. Isn’t that the whole point of sites like this??? Crazy debates between people who disagree each other??? If we weren’t here to argue, this place will have no different from something like twitter.
So, instead of trying to stop it, argue! Argue with me and say everything you want to say!
>>389993
>I just wanted a honest discussion!
oh so you want a honest discussion?
<Element of Brutal honesty activated
islam should have been a fucking mythology for a long time ago , fuck islam and fuck mohammed , a pedo goat fucker who fucked all of us with his retardation fuck arabs and fuck anyone who is not a iranian or christian
and i don't fucking trust you , you look like a basij / irgc shill
and more truth bombs
no one gives a fuck about iran , nether do i who is a very nationalist and patriotic person
it is a lost and damned country fucked by every single beings on this planet through out the whole history
there is not future for it and never will be
--
this is a mlpol for natzi and pony lovers , not a place for iranian-faggotary ass kissing circle jerk
me and you both (iranians as whole) should stop making everything about ourselves , cause no body ,i repeat no body gives a fuck about iran in the world
--
also
burn in hell you muslim agent asshole!!
signed by an anon
[Read more] >I just wanted a honest discussion!
oh so you want a honest discussion?
<Element of Brutal honesty activated
islam should have been a fucking mythology for a long time ago , fuck islam and fuck mohammed , a pedo goat fucker who fucked all of us with his retardation fuck arabs and fuck anyone who is not a iranian or christian
and i don't fucking trust you , you look like a basij / irgc shill
and more truth bombs
no one gives a fuck about iran , nether do i who is a very nationalist and patriotic person
it is a lost and damned country fucked by every single beings on this planet through out the whole history
there is not future for it and never will be
--
this is a mlpol for natzi and pony lovers , not a place for iranian-faggotary ass kissing circle jerk
me and you both (iranians as whole) should stop making everything about ourselves , cause no body ,i repeat no body gives a fuck about iran in the world
--
also
burn in hell you muslim agent asshole!!
signed by an anon
>>390000
at least i am not a chronologicaly cousin marrying retarded arab
go eat chameleon or someshit you sandnigger
anyway
see you najis blooded arabs in hell as God intended
at least i am not a chronologicaly cousin marrying retarded arab
go eat chameleon or someshit you sandnigger
anyway
see you najis blooded arabs in hell as God intended
>>390007
of course you love to rape that is in your dna you fucking terrorist keyboard warrior arabtard jew
hung yourself so gene pool can be saved from you pedo goat fucking rapist arabs
of course you love to rape that is in your dna you fucking terrorist keyboard warrior arabtard jew
hung yourself so gene pool can be saved from you pedo goat fucking rapist arabs
>>390010
Rape is masculine you low test submale faggot, kneel and submit to arab cock like your ancestors did in the 7th century
Rape is masculine you low test submale faggot, kneel and submit to arab cock like your ancestors did in the 7th century
>>390011
stop drinking oil you faggot
you're a rapist cause you're less than a woman
ottomans said the same thing now look at them they are now bunch of femboy turks
i am done wasting my time on you
God may help you to save you from idiocracy or burn you in hell forever if you cannot change
Jesus will saves all of us
Christianity always stays on the top
--
also stop switching your VPN
OP everyone knows it is you
>>389778
[Read more] stop drinking oil you faggot
you're a rapist cause you're less than a woman
ottomans said the same thing now look at them they are now bunch of femboy turks
i am done wasting my time on you
God may help you to save you from idiocracy or burn you in hell forever if you cannot change
Jesus will saves all of us
Christianity always stays on the top
--
also stop switching your VPN
OP everyone knows it is you
>>389778
>>390012
Modren femboy turkroaches are more masculine and genetically closer to humans than any persian "male" that has ever lived, cope&seethe persian boi
Modren femboy turkroaches are more masculine and genetically closer to humans than any persian "male" that has ever lived, cope&seethe persian boi
>>390013
go suck trump's dick you khurasani faggot
wihout oil , you guys are nothing but a sand crawling beetles
go suck trump's dick you khurasani faggot
wihout oil , you guys are nothing but a sand crawling beetles
>>390014
>wihout oil , you guys are nothing but a sand crawling beetles
they are that with oil as well
>wihout oil , you guys are nothing but a sand crawling beetles
they are that with oil as well
>>390015
exactly
bro we should ban this saudi arabia trolls
and iranian if it is needed
i know i am iranian but i rather sacrifice myself to save aryan purity of this site
FUCK MUSLIMS
exactly
bro we should ban this saudi arabia trolls
and iranian if it is needed
i know i am iranian but i rather sacrifice myself to save aryan purity of this site
FUCK MUSLIMS
>>390017
not your business you arab fuck
go fucking kill yourself
a good arab is a dead arab
oil crawling israeli arabtard
if i ever get the chance i will kill every single arab that exist
i will abu ghuraib you arabs so i can enjoy your cries
not your business you arab fuck
go fucking kill yourself
a good arab is a dead arab
oil crawling israeli arabtard
if i ever get the chance i will kill every single arab that exist
i will abu ghuraib you arabs so i can enjoy your cries
>>390021
>khamanei was scared of him getting big it is called co-op with US and taking the power from him
Is this actually confirmed to be true or is it just another schizoid conspiracy theory
>khamanei was scared of him getting big it is called co-op with US and taking the power from him
Is this actually confirmed to be true or is it just another schizoid conspiracy theory
>>390022
okay you're confirmed as a retard
of course it is a rumour and a conspiracy theory
not like Khamenei comes and openly admit it
anyway
imma go play some game and i wish Jesus help you to cure your retardation
ciao
okay you're confirmed as a retard
of course it is a rumour and a conspiracy theory
not like Khamenei comes and openly admit it
anyway
imma go play some game and i wish Jesus help you to cure your retardation
ciao
The Saudi poster only comes here to fuck with people. He never has good faith discussions.
>>390024
we were already discussing that here
ether he will push it so far that he will get IP banned , or we just need to tolerate him and not feed him
https://mlpol.net/qa/10094
we were already discussing that here
ether he will push it so far that he will get IP banned , or we just need to tolerate him and not feed him
https://mlpol.net/qa/10094
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>>389996
>oh so you want a honest discussion?
This one feels more emotional and chaotic, but thanks anyway!
You've awakened the Discord-like Iranian spirit in me!
>Element of Brutal honesty activated
<Element of chaotic discussion activated
>islam should have been a fucking mythology for a long time ago
Well done! What an honest and logical reason you gave!!! It was really interesting, but... I haven't found the reason yet...
>fuck islam and fuck mohammed
Why can't this reason be found yet...?
>a pedo goat fucker who fucked all of us with his retardation
Let's step by step:
pedo: If you’re talking about Aisha’s age, first of all, that story has a bunch of contradictions. Some dumb Arabs probably made her sound way younger than she was just to make her look "special." (These guys had fucking garbage memory, and some of them wanted to hype up Aisha and her dad Abu Bakr. Back then, marrying a younger girl from a tribe meant your tribe was "better." Literal Arab tribal racism! If it weren’t for Islam, these guys would still be eating cactus in the desert!)
Second, at that claimed age, Mohammad only got engaged to her, not sex with her! That happened years later!
Third, aside from Khadijah, Mohammad didn’t marry out of love. He had to marry women because rejecting those tribal proposals could triggered rebellions(and Islam would've been dead on arrival). The Aisha marriage was politics, not passion. The guy actually suffered a lot because of those fucking desert morons.
goat fucker: Thanks for the new insult for Arabs! Just remember, Mohammad wasn’t your average fucking Arab. He was way above the rest of them, didn’t give a damn about their dumb traditions(that’s why he became a prophet in the first place). He was the best guy in the worst crowd. Kinda like Jesus being born among people so dumb they wanted to crucifie him even after all the miracles. But hey, if you insult those people, does it mean you’re insulting Jesus too? Hell no!
>who fucked all of us with his retardation: As I just said, he didn’t screw us over. The real damage came after him, when Arabs used Islam as an excuse to fuck everyone! Just like how medieval European rulers abused Christianity to fuck people!
>fuck arabs and fuck anyone who is not a iranian or christian
Gotta say, I kinda agree with you on this one(at least the part where you curse the Arabs but don’t throw shit at Iranians). I see what you did there, though.
>and i don't fucking trust you , you look like a basij / irgc shill
Ughhhhh… not this crap again! I’m seriously tired of having to repeat this over and over! Bro, you’ve seen my posts in other threads, if irgc or basij catches wind of me thinking like this, I’ll be bagged by them before sunrise!
>and more truth bombs
Oh, fucking yeah! More chaos!!!
>no one gives a fuck about iran
Kinda disappointed, man… I was really expecting this to be a truth bomb. I thought you had more...
>"nether do i"???
>"who is a very nationalist and patriotic person" ???
>nationalist ___ nether do i ???!!
Bro what are you even saying??! You call yourself a nationalist and then say "even I don't care about Iran"??? Chill out, man. Never mix Tree Hugger and Zecora stuff together, side effects hit hard!
>it is a lost and damned country fucked by every single beings on this planet through out the whole history
A country that gave birth to the first true philosophers (Zarathustra), that shaped other cultures, that had scientists who literally founded or advanced global knowledge, that ruled the fucking largest empire in history, that’s one of the oldest civilizations out there, that was part of major world events, and any country that ever invaded it either got fucked instantly or got fucking payback even harder later! So... which Iran are you even talking about??! Are you really the same Iranian I was chatting with before??? Or just another poser trying to drag down the name of Iran, Aryan legacy, Christianity, and anything else decent? Oh wait… weren’t you that same guy who dissed Cyrus the great in that other thread? Yeah, that explains a lot...
>there is not future for it and never will
Future? Idiot! If it weren’t for Iran, you wouldn’t even HAVE a future!!
No Jew, no Christian, no Muslim would have had a future, because it was "Iran" that kept the Abrahamic faiths alive! This is Iran, land of the Aryans, the ones who actually pushed civilization forward! You can’t see the "future of the past" because you’re already living in it!!! And the future ahead? Oh, trust me, it’ll be better than most of these other "nations", because unlike them(who failed to keep their bloodlines pure) Iran has stayed "the purest Aryan race', even with all those mixed breeds surrounding us!
And when those Israeli jews finally collapse (which, let’s be real, is coming soon...), Iran won’t hesitate to rise back to its ancient glory. You think Iran can’t "MIGA" (Make Iran Great Again)?? Ha! Whoever you are, you’re clearly not the Iranian I know. You’re not a nationalist, you sound like some delusional commie!
[Read more] >oh so you want a honest discussion?
This one feels more emotional and chaotic, but thanks anyway!
You've awakened the Discord-like Iranian spirit in me!
>Element of Brutal honesty activated
<Element of chaotic discussion activated
>islam should have been a fucking mythology for a long time ago
Well done! What an honest and logical reason you gave!!! It was really interesting, but... I haven't found the reason yet...
>fuck islam and fuck mohammed
Why can't this reason be found yet...?
>a pedo goat fucker who fucked all of us with his retardation
Let's step by step:
pedo: If you’re talking about Aisha’s age, first of all, that story has a bunch of contradictions. Some dumb Arabs probably made her sound way younger than she was just to make her look "special." (These guys had fucking garbage memory, and some of them wanted to hype up Aisha and her dad Abu Bakr. Back then, marrying a younger girl from a tribe meant your tribe was "better." Literal Arab tribal racism! If it weren’t for Islam, these guys would still be eating cactus in the desert!)
Second, at that claimed age, Mohammad only got engaged to her, not sex with her! That happened years later!
Third, aside from Khadijah, Mohammad didn’t marry out of love. He had to marry women because rejecting those tribal proposals could triggered rebellions(and Islam would've been dead on arrival). The Aisha marriage was politics, not passion. The guy actually suffered a lot because of those fucking desert morons.
goat fucker: Thanks for the new insult for Arabs! Just remember, Mohammad wasn’t your average fucking Arab. He was way above the rest of them, didn’t give a damn about their dumb traditions(that’s why he became a prophet in the first place). He was the best guy in the worst crowd. Kinda like Jesus being born among people so dumb they wanted to crucifie him even after all the miracles. But hey, if you insult those people, does it mean you’re insulting Jesus too? Hell no!
>who fucked all of us with his retardation: As I just said, he didn’t screw us over. The real damage came after him, when Arabs used Islam as an excuse to fuck everyone! Just like how medieval European rulers abused Christianity to fuck people!
>fuck arabs and fuck anyone who is not a iranian or christian
Gotta say, I kinda agree with you on this one(at least the part where you curse the Arabs but don’t throw shit at Iranians). I see what you did there, though.
>and i don't fucking trust you , you look like a basij / irgc shill
Ughhhhh… not this crap again! I’m seriously tired of having to repeat this over and over! Bro, you’ve seen my posts in other threads, if irgc or basij catches wind of me thinking like this, I’ll be bagged by them before sunrise!
>and more truth bombs
Oh, fucking yeah! More chaos!!!
>no one gives a fuck about iran
Kinda disappointed, man… I was really expecting this to be a truth bomb. I thought you had more...
>"nether do i"???
>"who is a very nationalist and patriotic person" ???
>nationalist ___ nether do i ???!!
Bro what are you even saying??! You call yourself a nationalist and then say "even I don't care about Iran"??? Chill out, man. Never mix Tree Hugger and Zecora stuff together, side effects hit hard!
>it is a lost and damned country fucked by every single beings on this planet through out the whole history
A country that gave birth to the first true philosophers (Zarathustra), that shaped other cultures, that had scientists who literally founded or advanced global knowledge, that ruled the fucking largest empire in history, that’s one of the oldest civilizations out there, that was part of major world events, and any country that ever invaded it either got fucked instantly or got fucking payback even harder later! So... which Iran are you even talking about??! Are you really the same Iranian I was chatting with before??? Or just another poser trying to drag down the name of Iran, Aryan legacy, Christianity, and anything else decent? Oh wait… weren’t you that same guy who dissed Cyrus the great in that other thread? Yeah, that explains a lot...
>there is not future for it and never will
Future? Idiot! If it weren’t for Iran, you wouldn’t even HAVE a future!!
No Jew, no Christian, no Muslim would have had a future, because it was "Iran" that kept the Abrahamic faiths alive! This is Iran, land of the Aryans, the ones who actually pushed civilization forward! You can’t see the "future of the past" because you’re already living in it!!! And the future ahead? Oh, trust me, it’ll be better than most of these other "nations", because unlike them(who failed to keep their bloodlines pure) Iran has stayed "the purest Aryan race', even with all those mixed breeds surrounding us!
And when those Israeli jews finally collapse (which, let’s be real, is coming soon...), Iran won’t hesitate to rise back to its ancient glory. You think Iran can’t "MIGA" (Make Iran Great Again)?? Ha! Whoever you are, you’re clearly not the Iranian I know. You’re not a nationalist, you sound like some delusional commie!
>>390028
>this is a mlpol for natzi and pony lovers , not a place for iranian-faggotary ass kissing circle jerk
Yeah, definitely not! This place ain't for people who brown-nose others and kiss their asses!
If I look at other messages I suspect are yours, you just look like some pathetic nobody trying to pretend you're one of them by fakely sucking up to the Nazis! Even here, I've seen you talk about Christianity like you're just desperate for attention from other Christians!
Hitler said: 'He who does not love his homeland does not deserve to live in it.' So what kind of Nazi are you, exactly?! One of those who just kisses the other Nazis' asses??! Now that I think about it, you're not just not a Nazi, you're not even a Christian! Cause you can apply this whole thing across the board! You're just some pathetic loser who only wants to brown-nose people here, without an ounce of national or religious pride!
Okay, now that you've opened the conspiracy theory can by accusing me, let me drop my own theory: You're actually just a pathetic attention, whore who probably uses different alt accounts to create multiple identities for yourself, generating talk and maybe arguments and drama, just to get attention by kissing their asses! And then you turn around and accuse other people of doing the exact same shit you're doing, calling it a conspiracy theory! Wouldn't even be surprised if that donkey Arab account you're paying so much attention to and replying to that idiot is you!
>me and you both (iranians as whole) should stop making everything about ourselves , cause no body ,i repeat no body gives a fuck about iran in the world
You think I give a fuck who cares about Iran?? If someone cares or doesn't care about the sun, does that make the sun any less ??? Unlike you, I don't need anyone's validation. I just want to wake people up, maybe so they can see through all the lies in the world and recognize their Aryan brethren for real! The only reason you bring this up so much is probably cause you're the one who needs everyone else's attention! Which, by the way, is pretty obvious from your messages!
>also, burn in hell you muslim agent asshole!!
Okay. As you yourself said, it's god who judges!
>signed by an anon
I suggest you to change that "anon" with a word you deserve.
P.S : As I'm writing this message, I'm watching your argument with this Arab. If this Arab really isn't just another one of your accounts, please just stop arguing with this filth! The only thing he can do when it comes to rape is cut off his own thing and rape himself with it!
P.S 2 : For any non-Iranians reading these fights, you really don't need to take it all that seriously. No matter how much Iranians curse each other out on here, in the real world they argue while drinking tea together, so don't get your heads wrapped up in this stuff.
[Read more] >this is a mlpol for natzi and pony lovers , not a place for iranian-faggotary ass kissing circle jerk
Yeah, definitely not! This place ain't for people who brown-nose others and kiss their asses!
If I look at other messages I suspect are yours, you just look like some pathetic nobody trying to pretend you're one of them by fakely sucking up to the Nazis! Even here, I've seen you talk about Christianity like you're just desperate for attention from other Christians!
Hitler said: 'He who does not love his homeland does not deserve to live in it.' So what kind of Nazi are you, exactly?! One of those who just kisses the other Nazis' asses??! Now that I think about it, you're not just not a Nazi, you're not even a Christian! Cause you can apply this whole thing across the board! You're just some pathetic loser who only wants to brown-nose people here, without an ounce of national or religious pride!
Okay, now that you've opened the conspiracy theory can by accusing me, let me drop my own theory: You're actually just a pathetic attention, whore who probably uses different alt accounts to create multiple identities for yourself, generating talk and maybe arguments and drama, just to get attention by kissing their asses! And then you turn around and accuse other people of doing the exact same shit you're doing, calling it a conspiracy theory! Wouldn't even be surprised if that donkey Arab account you're paying so much attention to and replying to that idiot is you!
>me and you both (iranians as whole) should stop making everything about ourselves , cause no body ,i repeat no body gives a fuck about iran in the world
You think I give a fuck who cares about Iran?? If someone cares or doesn't care about the sun, does that make the sun any less ??? Unlike you, I don't need anyone's validation. I just want to wake people up, maybe so they can see through all the lies in the world and recognize their Aryan brethren for real! The only reason you bring this up so much is probably cause you're the one who needs everyone else's attention! Which, by the way, is pretty obvious from your messages!
>also, burn in hell you muslim agent asshole!!
Okay. As you yourself said, it's god who judges!
>signed by an anon
I suggest you to change that "anon" with a word you deserve.
P.S : As I'm writing this message, I'm watching your argument with this Arab. If this Arab really isn't just another one of your accounts, please just stop arguing with this filth! The only thing he can do when it comes to rape is cut off his own thing and rape himself with it!
P.S 2 : For any non-Iranians reading these fights, you really don't need to take it all that seriously. No matter how much Iranians curse each other out on here, in the real world they argue while drinking tea together, so don't get your heads wrapped up in this stuff.
>>390028
brother , i do not give a shit about your existence
you can drop dead tomorrow and i would give less shit than i do already
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i don't need your brown ass bro-pass of who is a real natzi or who is not
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also stop with this huge ass wall bullshits |pic related| , you're too passionate about a bullshit religion that should not have existed
brother , i do not give a shit about your existence
you can drop dead tomorrow and i would give less shit than i do already
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i don't need your brown ass bro-pass of who is a real natzi or who is not
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also stop with this huge ass wall bullshits |pic related| , you're too passionate about a bullshit religion that should not have existed
>>390021
In my opinion, Qasem Soleimani was assassinated by the U.S and Iran as part of a pre-arranged deal or staged conflict. However, I don't think Soleimani himself alone posed a threat to Khamenei.
In my opinion, Qasem Soleimani was assassinated by the U.S and Iran as part of a pre-arranged deal or staged conflict. However, I don't think Soleimani himself alone posed a threat to Khamenei.
>>390031
At all, I appreciate that.
And don't get those words personally, it was the hot sauce of post.
At all, I appreciate that.
And don't get those words personally, it was the hot sauce of post.
>>390028
mohammed was an arab there is no such thing as a special arab , other than meaning retarded arab , which is just arab
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mohammed fucked a kid , get over it , you make yourself look like a pedo-enabler
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>if irgc or basij catches wind of me thinking like this, I’ll be bagged by them before sunrise
says every basij member
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<no one gives a fuck about iran
it is the reality
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<it is a lost and damned country fucked by every single beings on this planet through out the whole history
Greeks,arabs,mongols,turks,british,arabs again
iran is just a cum bucket rn full of diverse cast of sperms
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>Future? Idiot! If it weren’t for Iran, you wouldn’t even HAVE a future!!
i already don't have that
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>you just look like some pathetic nobody trying to pretend you're one of them by fakely sucking up to the Nazis!
I am both Armenian Christian and a Natzi , but my knowledge of religions is high cause i read every single fucking religious books (not eastern asian shit) tho for having rebuttal for debating one
there is no point for me sucking dick of anyone here
i don't even know them , and i got nothing from them
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>You think I give a fuck who cares about Iran??
yes , yes you do , two of your post is just sucking iran and islam
[Read more] mohammed was an arab there is no such thing as a special arab , other than meaning retarded arab , which is just arab
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mohammed fucked a kid , get over it , you make yourself look like a pedo-enabler
--
>if irgc or basij catches wind of me thinking like this, I’ll be bagged by them before sunrise
says every basij member
--
<no one gives a fuck about iran
it is the reality
--
<it is a lost and damned country fucked by every single beings on this planet through out the whole history
Greeks,arabs,mongols,turks,british,arabs again
iran is just a cum bucket rn full of diverse cast of sperms
--
>Future? Idiot! If it weren’t for Iran, you wouldn’t even HAVE a future!!
i already don't have that
--
>you just look like some pathetic nobody trying to pretend you're one of them by fakely sucking up to the Nazis!
I am both Armenian Christian and a Natzi , but my knowledge of religions is high cause i read every single fucking religious books (not eastern asian shit) tho for having rebuttal for debating one
there is no point for me sucking dick of anyone here
i don't even know them , and i got nothing from them
--
>You think I give a fuck who cares about Iran??
yes , yes you do , two of your post is just sucking iran and islam
Samefagging.
>>390028
The biggest problem I see with Islam, is how it drove the MENA region away from Western civilization.
Southern Europeans are genetically closer to MENA populations than they are to Northern Europeans. However, Christianity with its heavy Greco-Roman influences, brought NE's and SE's together.
On the other hand, Islam, mostly rooted in tribal desert shit, actually severed the connection.
The biggest problem I see with Islam, is how it drove the MENA region away from Western civilization.
Southern Europeans are genetically closer to MENA populations than they are to Northern Europeans. However, Christianity with its heavy Greco-Roman influences, brought NE's and SE's together.
On the other hand, Islam, mostly rooted in tribal desert shit, actually severed the connection.
>>390036
>Islam, mostly rooted in tribal desert shit
The opposite is true.
The Qur'an is for the most part a copy+paste recreation of the Christian bible, and has more in common with Christianity than anything else. Islam acknowledges most of the Christian Bible as canon, and claims Jesus as one of many prophets that brought the word of God to earth. Christian Islam has been a vehicle of eradication of the tribal desert culture that preceded it (destroyed pagan monuments, idols, art, language, legends, myths, historical records, etc); to an incredibly extreme degree as Islam considers almost every form of symbolism as idolatry and sought to wipe out all pagan culture that came before it. There is very little tribal desert shit involved in Islam, aside from the savage predispositions of the sandniggers who practice it.
>Islam, mostly rooted in tribal desert shit
The opposite is true.
The Qur'an is for the most part a copy+paste recreation of the Christian bible, and has more in common with Christianity than anything else. Islam acknowledges most of the Christian Bible as canon, and claims Jesus as one of many prophets that brought the word of God to earth. Christian Islam has been a vehicle of eradication of the tribal desert culture that preceded it (destroyed pagan monuments, idols, art, language, legends, myths, historical records, etc); to an incredibly extreme degree as Islam considers almost every form of symbolism as idolatry and sought to wipe out all pagan culture that came before it. There is very little tribal desert shit involved in Islam, aside from the savage predispositions of the sandniggers who practice it.
>>390034
>mohammed was an arab there is no such thing as a special arab , other than meaning retarded arab , which is just arab
Do you hold the same view toward Jesus Christ? What about Moses? Abraham? Noah? And the other prophets?
This is where your problem lies. You’re caught in a false dilemma. You judge selectively. You racialize religion, even though you know that the essence of religion has nothing to do with race. Yes, we can propose general theories about races, but we cannot fully generalize them. There are always exceptions. What can reveal such an exception is when a person’s character becomes more valuable than their race. That alone defines a true prophet.
>mohammed fucked a kid , get over it , you make yourself look like a pedo-enabler
You speak in general terms and aren’t willing to actually go and study the details. The problem is, as they say, anything can be justified with the right excuse, and anything can also be accused of anything.
You’re both accepting a distorted narrative and trying your best not to reject it under any circumstances. And don't worry, as an Iranian, I would never support it, if the pedo thing was real.
>says every basij member
You are free to accept this or not. It makes no difference to me.
As you yourself surely know, a thing like this can't be proven to you on this website.
>it is the reality
Reality? You mean the same one that's all over the news right now, about Iran’s negotiations and its weapons? The same reality that’s stirred up conflict between Trump and Netanyahu? The one that has China and Russia concerned about controlling Iran? The one behind theories suggesting Iran could spark World War III?
You're right here on the same websites, many of the things being discussed, directly or indirectly, involve Iran. So how do you try to dismiss all that??!
>Greeks,arabs,mongols,turks,british,arabs again. Iran is just a cum bucket rn full of diverse cast of sperms
So with the idea that the whole world is "full of sperm"! Meaning that wars have happened everywhere, this actually shows Iran’s strength: that despite being in one of the most strategic regions in the world and attacked by so many races and nations, the Aryan country called Iran still exists!
Even you must admit that the only significantly non-Aryan group in Iran are the turks, and most of them, due to ethnic pride, have made sure not to mix with other groups. And then there are afghans, and as you know, very few Iranians are even willing to be close to them.
So compared to many other countries that were attacked much less by foreign nations, Iran has managed to keep both its name and its identity.
>i already don't have that
Bro! What are you fighting for, then??! A depressed man, never can be a nationalist or a Nazi! Do you really love Iran???
>I am both Armenian Christian and a Natzi , but my knowledge of religions is "high" cause i read every single fucking religious books (not eastern asian shit) tho for having rebuttal for debating one
there is no point for me sucking dick of anyone here. i don't even know them , and i got nothing from them
Alright, I’ll assume you aren't a sucker, but “high”?
Do I need to remind you that just a few messages earlier, you were questioning how Islam views pigs as problematic, and then I randomly in the Bible found the exact same view stated there?
You’re not even fully familiar with your own book, so how can you claim to have "high* knowledge about other religions?
You've clearly shown through your words that you don’t have a proper or accurate understanding of Islam either.
In my opinion, your problem is this: unlike you, I openly acknowledge my lack of knowledge about many things of Christianity and accept it. But you, despite being even less informed, go on claiming to know a lot.
I think you should put aside this empty pride so we can have a logical conversation. Otherwise, this dialogue will become completely pointless.
>yes , yes you do , two of your post is just sucking iran and islam
I think you didn’t understand the purpose of my posts.
I wanted to increase Iranian activity on the site, and it worked!
Was the level of Iranian engagement the same before I started?
This discussion between you and me is proof of that, too.
[Read more] >mohammed was an arab there is no such thing as a special arab , other than meaning retarded arab , which is just arab
Do you hold the same view toward Jesus Christ? What about Moses? Abraham? Noah? And the other prophets?
This is where your problem lies. You’re caught in a false dilemma. You judge selectively. You racialize religion, even though you know that the essence of religion has nothing to do with race. Yes, we can propose general theories about races, but we cannot fully generalize them. There are always exceptions. What can reveal such an exception is when a person’s character becomes more valuable than their race. That alone defines a true prophet.
>mohammed fucked a kid , get over it , you make yourself look like a pedo-enabler
You speak in general terms and aren’t willing to actually go and study the details. The problem is, as they say, anything can be justified with the right excuse, and anything can also be accused of anything.
You’re both accepting a distorted narrative and trying your best not to reject it under any circumstances. And don't worry, as an Iranian, I would never support it, if the pedo thing was real.
>says every basij member
You are free to accept this or not. It makes no difference to me.
As you yourself surely know, a thing like this can't be proven to you on this website.
>it is the reality
Reality? You mean the same one that's all over the news right now, about Iran’s negotiations and its weapons? The same reality that’s stirred up conflict between Trump and Netanyahu? The one that has China and Russia concerned about controlling Iran? The one behind theories suggesting Iran could spark World War III?
You're right here on the same websites, many of the things being discussed, directly or indirectly, involve Iran. So how do you try to dismiss all that??!
>Greeks,arabs,mongols,turks,british,arabs again. Iran is just a cum bucket rn full of diverse cast of sperms
So with the idea that the whole world is "full of sperm"! Meaning that wars have happened everywhere, this actually shows Iran’s strength: that despite being in one of the most strategic regions in the world and attacked by so many races and nations, the Aryan country called Iran still exists!
Even you must admit that the only significantly non-Aryan group in Iran are the turks, and most of them, due to ethnic pride, have made sure not to mix with other groups. And then there are afghans, and as you know, very few Iranians are even willing to be close to them.
So compared to many other countries that were attacked much less by foreign nations, Iran has managed to keep both its name and its identity.
>i already don't have that
Bro! What are you fighting for, then??! A depressed man, never can be a nationalist or a Nazi! Do you really love Iran???
>I am both Armenian Christian and a Natzi , but my knowledge of religions is "high" cause i read every single fucking religious books (not eastern asian shit) tho for having rebuttal for debating one
there is no point for me sucking dick of anyone here. i don't even know them , and i got nothing from them
Alright, I’ll assume you aren't a sucker, but “high”?
Do I need to remind you that just a few messages earlier, you were questioning how Islam views pigs as problematic, and then I randomly in the Bible found the exact same view stated there?
You’re not even fully familiar with your own book, so how can you claim to have "high* knowledge about other religions?
You've clearly shown through your words that you don’t have a proper or accurate understanding of Islam either.
In my opinion, your problem is this: unlike you, I openly acknowledge my lack of knowledge about many things of Christianity and accept it. But you, despite being even less informed, go on claiming to know a lot.
I think you should put aside this empty pride so we can have a logical conversation. Otherwise, this dialogue will become completely pointless.
>yes , yes you do , two of your post is just sucking iran and islam
I think you didn’t understand the purpose of my posts.
I wanted to increase Iranian activity on the site, and it worked!
Was the level of Iranian engagement the same before I started?
This discussion between you and me is proof of that, too.
>>390039
for me jews and arabs are the same
i do not care about any other prophets and yes i know i am being selective
what details? made up hadithes? made up shia bullshits? aisha was a kid and that is what everyone says
also you can marry a fucking 9 years old in islam what do you mean you wouldn't follow if it was not true???!!!
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being on the news?! being pain in the ass and the biggest fake bully on this whole planet? trying to mess with bunch of super powers?? while we both iran could not stand a chance against any of them
being a biggest terrorist organization and aiding terrorist groups is not a achievement
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i prob do have arab and turk and mongolian blodd due those animals raping anything that walked
iran hisotry is nothing but a sad story
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i already fought enough , i got arrested two times in both mahsa amini protest and 98 gas protests
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babaguryo christianity is not the same and my book is different
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it is already a pointless argument
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more iranians?!
it is me, sometimes i show my flag sometimes i won't
there are no other iranians beside me and you
[Read more] for me jews and arabs are the same
i do not care about any other prophets and yes i know i am being selective
what details? made up hadithes? made up shia bullshits? aisha was a kid and that is what everyone says
also you can marry a fucking 9 years old in islam what do you mean you wouldn't follow if it was not true???!!!
--
being on the news?! being pain in the ass and the biggest fake bully on this whole planet? trying to mess with bunch of super powers?? while we both iran could not stand a chance against any of them
being a biggest terrorist organization and aiding terrorist groups is not a achievement
--
i prob do have arab and turk and mongolian blodd due those animals raping anything that walked
iran hisotry is nothing but a sad story
--
i already fought enough , i got arrested two times in both mahsa amini protest and 98 gas protests
--
babaguryo christianity is not the same and my book is different
--
it is already a pointless argument
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more iranians?!
it is me, sometimes i show my flag sometimes i won't
there are no other iranians beside me and you
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