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At this point, if you could make a SINGLE argument it would be a miracle
Scroll up, I already made one. Now it's your turn to make an argument or argue against my one, instead of smugly dismissing what I say and then insisting you are right. You are an arrogant blind pigeon with diarrhea shitting on a chessboard except you have even less reading comprehension. You might find remembering what I said in this thread easier if you ceased attacking me in every thread you still feel welcome in.
I'm surprised you haven't been given that Vril flag back as a badge of shame, hclegend.
You made a point in all that? Please excuse as its so much trouble to sift through all your refuse. For sake of brevity, pmease hone in on your salient points
Look, hclegend, I've been thinking...
You've been at this basically since the site was founded, except you had a grudge against me before that because I once called Starlight Glimmer a poorly written character.
I understand that this permanently made you mad. And I understand that you love making an ass of yourself in each new thread I post in or make until you feel you can't get away with it any more without damaging your reputation within the thread further. Thread derailment is your goal. Lowering the quality of the website is your goal. When you aren't personally attacking me or some other british guy you think is me, you're bitching at Christians and calling them "Cuckstains".
Remember what just happened in the other thread? When I made a post that said "why are raiders raiding this site" and you misread it as "i dont know what soy wojack comics are" and you kept insisting on your own personal reinterpretation of reality is the truth even as the actual truth stared you in the face?
You don't feel like you can stop and apologize when you've made a mistake. I wish those posts weren't deleted because you made an ass of yourself in them and this helped everyone know what your words are worth. I could link to them whenever you attacked me in future threads, because your yapping only ceases when you feel you've embarassed yourself too much to continue.
I understand that you have no other hobbies or goals in your life beyond making a nuisance of yourself in the hopes that somebody will eventually take your side or blame me for your behaviour.
What will it take from me to convince you to stop acting like a butthurt stalking redditor, hclegend? Consider this the offer of an olive branch. What will it take for you to bury your hatchet?
No, Im really not Hclegend. Throw all your precoditioned salt, its fine. Not the guy, but Ill take one for the team. You silly buffoon.
But, I am wondering if you have an argument about or pertaining to nicotine. Cuz thats what I came in for.
Thats what this was supposed to be about. So, DO you have a point beyond a hateboner? Cuz we're talking about cigarettes. No need to get inflammatory (ha!) about anything.
Are you sure we're still talking about deathsticks? Because you stopped talking about them and starting claiming I am not making an argument, because you're a jew and these jewish lies are your first language. The ball is still in your court. My argument against smoking has been proven right by your ineptitude and absolute inability to argue for smoking. Your idiocy and degeneracy has been proven by your desire to defend smoking. I understand why you'd deny being hclegend despite acting and sounding exactly like him, he's an embarassing redditor who regularly makes pro-LGBTQ anti-white anti-SuperStraight posts on reddit. If I was him I'd deny being him too. But if you don't want to be vril aka hclegend, stop acting like him.
Still waiting on a serious mature argument. You know, citations, references, or something other than your usual vitriol and inability to exchange ideas without attempting to hurl baseless insults, accusations, and rhetoric?
Or should I interpret your failure to do so as a tacit admission that you cant have a rational argument? That would certainly be consistent with your track record.
If you scroll up you'll see the argument I made. Then if you try hard enough, you might be able to reply to what I write... instead of covering your eyes and claiming "You're not making an argument therefore I win you lose bye bye".
Are you literally black?
I see no serious mature arguments. I DO see a whole lot of strawman caricatures of what you dismissively assume someone who doesnt support your premise 'must' think, as well as a whole LOT of insults and paranoid delusions about anyone who doesnt support your premise.
Your lazy thinking leads you to try and lump everyone into categories, and naturally you perceive your premise to be correct. But you have clearly done no research on the topic, resorting instead to reaffirming your own perception of correctness. To you, the idea that you're correct is endemic, and contrary positions are beneath contempt.
Which would be fine, if you could actually argue your point. Now then. Do you HAVE an argument? As a quick refresher, the premise you asserted is that there is npthing good about smoking, and anyone who thinks there is is wrong. I presented the fact that there are numerous health benefots to nicotine.
And then you proceeded to diarrhea all over the thread with every conceivable epithet you could possibly come up with, completely without evidence or cause.
Nigel. Stop being ignorant.
You never want to post honestly and constructively. How tiresome. Would it help you if I spelled my argument out for you in the simplest terms possible?
Me: you cannot make a good argument for smoking because it's so bad.
You: i am not listening so I did not hear you make an argument, you poopyheaded faggot stoopidhead. Haha i win and you smell.
me: but i just made an argument. Take your fingers out of your ears and ass. Reply to my argument constructively instead of bitching about tone or throwing juvenile insults at me.
You: I am still not listening so there hahaha im not listening im not listening
Break the cycle you've trapped yourself in. I am not going to abandon my point just because you do not like my point and do not feel like seriously considering my point. You spiteful contrarian, recognize where your hatred of whites has brought you. You're simping for cancersticks.
You could not have misrepresented the exchange any more fallaciously if you tried. Its quite impressive, in a morbid sense.
Can you actually give a real argument for why smoking is good?
He can't. It's why he's trying so hard to grind this conversation to a halt by refusing to play a constructive role in it.
Stop it. Give a thesis statement on why death sticks are bad so the thread stays on track. Statistics weigh the pros and cons and you'll show your side of the argument.
Just saying it's a jew stick is fine... for a two year old.
Or consider that your basis fpr argument is rooted in wishy washy feelings.>>312799
Give the guy some sources because while his repository for miscellaneous facts is decent the going out there to research is lacking.
A curriculum of ugh spoon feeding which is also detrimental but ffs
otherwise it's just a cycle of pain over and over again.>>312801
Which post is your argument? Your thesis statement. The core of your idea in a sentence or two.
I'll do you one better and sum up my argument in a word or two.>Smoking's unhealthy.
Good luck making a coherent argument for smoking. Even the weed-loving faggots say "It's stupid that society bans weed but not cigarettes". Of course both probably shouldn't be legal. But smoking's clearly worse. Weed's bad too but in a more subtle way.
Smoking is bad because tobacco is full of tar which is full of harmful and toxic chemicals that damage the lungs, mouth and throat when inhaled, many of which are carcinogens. It's only worse with the crap they put in synthetic cigarettes.
Also it rots teeth and smells bad.
'Good' is a subjective concept, based on opinion. But since you asked nicely https://duckduckgo.com/?q=health+benefits+of+nicotine&ia=web
Dude, if I wanted the first few results of a search engine I could have done that myself.
I'm looking at the first three results, but I don't see any real benefits to outweigh the harmful effects of tobacco tar. All of the listed benefits have different treatments.
First of all, none of these articles in the search results I've checked out so far have promoted smoking, they're suggesting potential benefits to nicotine, and slight benefits at that. Several of them have explicitly denounced smoking.
The first result lists as many detriments of nicotine as it does benefits. It also says in its conclusion that smoking causes cancer and is linked to millions of deaths worldwide.
The second one says that smoking is still dangerous and says to use patches instead.
The third result says this:>Whatever you choose to do, recognize that the benefits of nicotine may not outweigh the risks.
Because it freaking doesn't. All of those listed benefits can be attained through better means, often without even depending on drugs.
The fourth result also lists as many detriments as it does benefits.
The fifth result denounces smoking right off the bat.
Who are you fucking quoting here?
... good job you have a topic not a thesis. What focus is it about that makes it bad.>Good luck making a coherent argument for smoking.<Is that a fucking challenge?<Watch me.>>312807
Almost a bit lengthy but you know this isn't the cooledge thesis writing course.
I haven't seen any coherent argument for smoking yet. I've only seen some tabloid articles about the potential benefits of nicotine as a stimulant drug, outside the context of smoking tobacco.
Well yeah they're two bit hacks. It's basically propaganda that's at the core of the messaging because the whole cigarette crazy was based on percieved image, and then addiction.
Mouth cancer a new fad for the ages... that by itself is terrible marketing besides 'they are
being honest or something I guess'.
I never said the benefits outweigh the risks. I said that there are health benefits to nicotine.
Shall we start going down the list of things tht have benefits to them but are outweighed by the risks? I could argue that fast food is responsible for a much greater level of ill health effects on society than tobacco. Why isnt that illegal? Fast food is too easy of an example though. But what about energy drinks? One could argue that the risks outweigh the benefits there too, ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that energy drinks are regularly consumed by kids.
The fact of the matter is that it doesnt matter 'why' fast food, smoking, etc. are legal. They are. People have a right to do things that are unhealthy. If a smoker chooses to smoke, thats their prerogative. Whether others choose to appreciate, agree, whtever, that or not is entirely their choice.
However, its arrogant in the extreme to suggest that there is no possible argument in favor of smoking, especially and specificlly because whether to smoke or not is a choice of the individual. As one who smokes, I can think of plenty of benefits I enjoy (not least of which is how buttmad people get) that you probably wouldnt/dont appreciate, and that's fine.
But one should be very careful about presuming to decide for others, especially without a very well formulated argument AND a willingness to respect the fact that people are entitled to make different choices, even (and especially) when they dont agree.
Yeah, there's a lot of bad things out there that people shouldn't be putting in their bodies; that doesn't make tobacco better though: two things can be bad at once.
Fast food is also terrible. I can say the same about energy drinks. Parents really shouldn't allow their kids to eat/drink that stuff as often as they do. People seem to forget that compounds like caffeine are stimulant drugs and psychoactive substances with addictive qualities, although not nearly as addictive as caffeine. The excessive consumption of sugar in our society is having a terrible impact on health as well: human bodies just aren't built to process so much sugar, despite craving it for its scarcity in nature.>why isn't that illegal
A combination of the fact that it would be impossible to enforce, and that banning things isn't actually the best way to prevent them from happening (see: prohibition). Nicotine was easy to regulate because it's just one thing; even then they didn't ban it: they just raised the legal age to smoke and taxed it to make the habit expensive. Banning it would have only led to prohibition-era bullshit and turn a lot of good people into criminals.
I can only hope we can change society to get people to stop ingesting so much freaking poisonous sugar on a regular basis. I don't advocate for heavier restrictions on them though, because that would be impossible to enforce and would be so wide-reaching that it would just give them government more opportunities to micromanage our lives.
I would say that the detriments of smoking outweigh strongly benefits of nicotine, because most of the benefits of nicotine can be gained without any drugs whatsoever, and the hazardous chemicals in tobacco tar are nothing to scoff at. Tobacco is a poisonous plant that prairie niggers figured out had psychoactive effects when smoked; it's not some miracle drug. Inhaling all of those carcinogen or simply toxic chemicals really isn't worth the slight benefits of one stimulant compound.
Also it smells bad.
I wouldn't say it should be illegal though. Further restrictions on it would only do more harm than good, and I'm not one for overregulation since I value individual freedoms more than I do health.
You tried your hardest for years and never succeeded. The moral lesson here is, stop simping for jews/faggots/fags/your own irrational grudge towards me and get a hobby. This might be the cultural marxism and anti-white thread, but you're not supposed to be an anti-white cultural marxist here. You aren't supposed to simp for something anti-white like cigarretes.
Whites are supposed to be healthy, therefore cigarretes are anti-white.
Talk about an over-statement. Anything unhealthy at all is specifically anti-white by that metric, and that's a giant category. If only you and your imaginary ghost enemy expended as much energy arguing against alcohol abuse, opioids/prescription drugs, and mass marijuana use you'd make some real headway into solving destructive addictions more than debating the merits of cigarettes. Any one of those is doing more to annihilate whites physically and mentally than cigarettes, cigars, vapes, e-cigs, and what have you.>>312979
Fractions enslaved 3/5 of my grandmama.
Does this count as whataboutism? I also hate other bad things but this argument is specifically about smoking and why it's bad. It got kind of retarded though. Hey, do you think retards and people vulnerable to alcohol addiction/abuse shouldn't be allowed to get drunk? Drivers aren't allowed to get drunk because it's dangerous for them to be drunk. Dangerous to themselves and others.
Just because other drugs are bad doesn't mean cigarettes aren't bad.
Two things can be bad at once.>>312985
Yes. It is the definition of whataboutism.
>>312862>Whites are supposed to be healthy, therefore cigarretes are anti-white
Eh, I wouldn't put that. Cigarettes are unhealthy, but they're not inherently anti-white. They're often marketed to niggers and various other races, and are just generally bad for public health. It hasn't been targeted towards whites disproportionately.
Does it count as "targeting marketing towards whites" if they are marketed in first world formerly-mostly-white nations but rarely if ever in african shitholes?
I think cigarettes are actually marketed towards niggers quite a bit, or at least in the United States. Niggers don't care about their health, and thus are dumb enough to be fooled into buying poison. It's the same reason why McDonald's commercial are full of nogs.
It's honestly partly why the smell of menthol disgusts me so much. So many niggers smoke it and add it to their already-disgusting smoker/nigger smell.
African shitholes don't have massive marketing campaigns, dump addictive substances into those countries and people get addicted. Hardly need to convince anyone to use them. As for the first world, nicotine is not marketed at all. Cigarettes are just made available despite being attacked and people buy them. Alcohol has far more marketing behind it, and little is done about opioids and heroin which are annihilating whites. And many opioids are prescribed specifically to get people addicted to them.
Marijuana is being pushed as a soma for pacification in addition to that. And many still don't think it really has any negative health effect. When it comes to nicotine, no one here has said that cigarettes and other forms of nicotine delivery are good. It's simply that attacking them is pointless.
No smoker pretends that smoking is good for you overall. Ask them in person, they won't sell you that bullshit. But alcoholics live in denial, opioid addicts pretend they aren't addicted, and heroin addicts descend into the dredges of society. Focus your efforts on people whose lives are being destroyed, cigarette smokers all know it isn't healthy.>>312988
This is the main problem. If anyone seriously thinks cigarettes are the main product destroying whites and are specifically being sold to them anymore than anything else, they're retarded. Simple as that. Constantly we see drug addicts, the super obese addicted to overeating, and hopeless alcoholics in our media. It's all pushed by our media as well. Cigarettes are a human vice but they don't hold a candle to the destructive nature of most other substances.
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what a fitting username for a retard
should bypass the ban to send him picrelated and "the systemic racism in existence is YOURS"
Didn't the name algernon come from some old story about a retard who gets smart, is sad, and chooses a life of wilful ignorance?
I was required to read that in middle school. To this day, idk wtf they were trying to teach me with that...
The story you’re thinking of is named “Flowers for Algernon,” snd no. It doesn’t. It’s a common name used in England, at least in the past.
Algernon Sidney was an English politician and political theorist who played an important role in the execution of Charles I in the English Civil War, and whose writings later influenced John Locke, and the founders of the United States.
Algernon Blackwood was a famous horror fiction writer who wrote “The Willows,” popularized the concept of the Wendigo through his short story of the same name, and was highly influential upon and respected by H.P. Lovecraft.
Algernon Charles Swinburne, while I’d rather not say much about him, was a famous poet and is who the titular character in Daniel Keyes “Flowers for Algernon” is named after.
Algernon West was the Principal Private Secretary of the United Kingdom under Prime Minister William Gladstone, in the reign of Queen Victoria.
I could go on. Here’s a Wikipedia list, with numerous important people and fictional characters named “Algernon” outside of the one short story. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algernon_(name)
They probably thought the Algernovel would implant the "IGNORANCE IS BLISS. KNOWLEDGE IS SIN. EMBRACE MEDIOCRITY. AMBITION IS EVIL. SELF-IMPROVEMENT MEANS NOT BEING TRUE TO YOURSELF. ALL HAIL TALL POPPY SYNDROME" message in you while you're young. If I had a burger for every time media (especially media aimed at kids) pushed that degenerate message I'd have more burgers than America.
Yeah, I guess the book was actually okay, particularly with how the character's perspective and narration changed over time. I just associate it with a particularly crappy teacher and a bunch of trivial meaningless assignments.
Iirc, the character didn't choose to remain ignorant, but his brain deteriorated after the treatment wore off.
>Dallas BLM Group Targets Affluent White Suburb, Demand White Parents Not Send Kids To Ivy League, Let Blacks Take Their Places>White parents must give up on dreaming big for white children, because this is somehow racist to work hard to provide a better life than what they knew for their progeny.>The “Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,” were a noble ideal for those white men created the United States of America and hoped law, order, and responsible authority would govern this nation, so each successive generation would know a better tomorrow.>In 2021, we are now being lectured by non-whites who tell us our prosperity was gained via oppression, so our posterity must be oppressed in the name of social justice.>We are now governed in all sectors of our life by irresponsible authority, dominated by one unifying theme: anti-whiteness.https://vdare.com/posts/dallas-blm-group-targets-affluent-white-suburb-demand-white-parents-not-send-kids-to-ivy-league-let-blacks-take-their-places
It's time for "anti-racists" White liberals to put their money where their mouth is.
>It is the Church of the Damned: Whites are racist “no matter what” (see rule 10)
This is collective racial psychological abuse, also called Gaslighting 101.
Nick Fuentes on the destruction of White people.
What's the best documentary/memes for explaining white genocide ASAP?
I've met someone recently fucked over by the left, I have a window of opportunity to show him the good shit.
The attached book and linked documentary are both pretty good for explaining the jist of it succinctly.https://archive.org/details/WithOpenGatesTheForcedCollectiveSuicideOfEuropeanNations
It worked brilliantly!
Does anyone have any clips of "Afrofuturists" and other black racist saying wacky bullshit?
Like preaching about their rain-dances and voodoo tiki magic, or the historical-revisionist bullshit where they claim they had a moon train (train that takes them to their african moon colony and back) and flying cars but then whitey showed up and destroyed everything out of spite and "stole their science" and went home with it?
I used to have some bookmarked on youtube but when I went to view it, it had been deleted.
Fairfax County Schools — Library kept gay pedophilia for kids.>Stacy Langton, speaks at the September 23, 2021 Fairfax County Public School Board Meeting. She is a parent concerned with the content of books found in the school library. She is interrupted by Board Chair, Stella Pekarsky.>The clip shows mother-of-six Stacy Langton. Sure enough, Langton was able to check out the two books she had seen other parents protest — “Lawn Boy” by Jonathan Evison and “Gender Queer: A Memoir” by Maia Kobabe — at the Fairfax High School library.”>Both of these books include pedophilia,” Langton told the board. “Sex between men and boys … One book describes a fourth-grade boy performing oral sex on an adult male. The other book has detailed illustrations of a man having sex with a boy.”>Fairfax County Public Schools told Fox News on Friday that both of the books Langton protested at the meeting “will be suspended with immediate effect.”>“FCPS is in the process of convening two committees made up of staff, students and parents led by our Library Services Coordinator to assess the suitability of both texts for inclusion in our high school libraries,” the district said in a statement. “The recommendation of the committees will be put forward to the Assistant Superintendent of Instructional Services who will make a final decision as to whether FCPS continues to provide access to these books in our high school libraries.”>The school system has a shared library system, meaning middle school students also had access to the books.https://www.foxnews.com/us/fairfax-mom-confronts-school-board-over-graphic-sexual-materials-in-schoolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Xm4AX25tE
Mentally ill transvestites demand people lie to them and participate in their psychosis.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3guuRPH7es
>Baseball Karen gonna Karen.https://twitter.com/Yolo304741/status/1445987843164225545
Everything commies don't like is "raaaaaaaaaaaacist"
SJW degenerate mom can’t handle the truth.
Her doctor tried to warn her, so she’s switching doctors instead of facing the truth.https://twitter.com/_Mrtdogg/status/1447244954976325638
Let’s remember this was Obama’s “moderate” supreme court nominee, according to our (((state-run))) (((mainstream media)))
>Maoista re-education camp
Unmasked negress drill sergeant leads U.S. soldiers wearing masks outside in woke chant about MLK.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qrk4GQi5Sg
>some are forced to veil their face because "ew icky diseases" and psychologically have their faces taken from them
>some are not
is this some kind of fetishy power dynamics thing for them?
Yes. It's about obedience in a sado masoquist fashion.
The whole military training is about psychological abuse in order to turn normal human beings into killer robots.
Corporations and banks shilling racial propaganda is just their attempts to get us to point fingers at each other instead of them.
there's a difference between pride in a particular white heritage and white supremacy. for example, though I could hardly expect some facebook idiot to know of it, the Irish were subject to extreme racism under the British, and today expression of Irish pride is a fantastic way to spit in the face of British colonialism. the way he refers to "whites" is to paint with such a broad brush that he himself ends up covering over the concerns of actual minority concerns within so-called "white" groups, instead advocating for a celebration of the status quo and standing state of affairs. the reason it is racist to celebrate a nebulous Huwite identity in the way he describes is because it is to take it a step beyond the constant implicit celebration of such made simply by the existence of a society so dominated by this concept of whiteness. and furthermore, it cloaks the real meaning - it isn't a celebration of Irish people and their struggle, not of Italians, Greeks, Romanians, of any white minorities with a history of oppression continuing to this day - it's intended, without being spoken as such, to be a statement of pride of Anglo-Saxon tradition, with all the endless seas of blood and suffering that entails. it's merely a glorification of an evil and oppressive dominant people, those who are and those who are descended from the Southern English branch of Albion's Seed. nevermind the fact that there has scarcely ever been in the course of human events a greater enemy to any of the other "white" peoples than the English, who have fought and murdered by the millions every single other people of Europe, far more so than any other European nation to another, and this too holds true for every other nation of the globe. When, say, an Italian-American is to celebrate "his" "whiteness", he is not celebrating himself, or his heritage, or the past of his struggle, or solidarity with other struggles - he his celebrating and worshipping his conquerer, his hateful colonizer, his contemptuous overlord. your "truth" is not spreading - it is simply yet another insidiuous arm of Elizabeth II's invisible White Supremacist English Empire.
Make it short.
Do you support White self determination?
Rope is cheap. I'm willing to buy enough to go around.
Also, I think you should give this podcast a listen.
What's to Come | w/ Frame Game TPS #31
(You'll get two results on the top page of Qwant. I'm giving you the alt tech one instead of the YT one.)https://altcensored.com/watch?v=bqWxn5EjvyQ
It traces what has always happened, historically, whenever white people become racial minorities in their own nations. Spoilers: it's always very bad.