Devs Jan 7 >DeZ:US Coallition sent a massive convoy of weapons to SDF. IS takes advantage of heavy fog to launch offensive to retake Al-Shafah stronghold >Idlib:HTS now controls almost 60% of Idlib de-escalation zone >Syrian opp. leader:Saudi Arabia has ‘strong presence in northeast Syria >Turkey slams Bolton’s comments on targeting Kurds as ‘irrational’ >Turkish military continues large-scale build up along Syrian border >SDF official:Kurdish forces could be integrated in SAA >Report:HTS amassing troops to storm southern and western Idlib >TFSA send massive convoy of reinforcements to west Aleppo >Report:No agreement made on transferring control of Manbij to Syrian gov’t >Trump goes back on declarations:We won’t be finally pulled out until ISIS is gone >Israel pushes US officials to recognize occupied Golan Heights as Israeli territory >Bolton:US to withdraw from Syria only when no risk remains to Israel’s security >Egyptian AF uses Israeli airspace during strikes on isis in north Sinai
>FSA Mohammad al-Fateh Brigade Commander Mahmoud Sulayman: "The passwords of the UAE-made 'Thuraya' and the British-made 'Inmarsat' satellite phones, which were given to group commanders by the UAE and Saudi Arabia, were shared with Damascus" https://twitter.com/badly_xeroxed/status/1082538831071641600
>Erdogan: US' Bolton 'seriously mistaken' on Syrian Kurd fighters
>Erdogan stressed he and Trump had reached a clear agreement in December over the swift withdrawal of the US forces from Syria, in return for Turkey taking care of the remaining ISIL threat in the war-torn country.
>"I promised him to take all the necessary initiative elements over the issue. However, different levels of the US administration started saying different things after that." "Since the conversation between Erdogan and Trump, Washington has shifted positions on the timetable for withdrawal and the conditions to do so, including the one over the YPG, the most important one for Turkey," he told Al Jazeera.
>"Trump seems to be convinced by people around him and agreed to these new positions for now. Therefore, further tensions might come up in near future between the two sides."
>Here is what the HTS has captured until now, starting from north down to south, Hama and Idlib: >Alhamidia, Dukmak, Zaqqim, Qulaidin, Al Enkawi, Al Fatatoua, Safahun, Kawkabah, Ash Kulin, Northern and southern Rasha, Jabal Shashabo, Tarmala, Naqayyar, Arynba, Suth Al Deir, Al-Qasabiyah and Khirbat Abidin. >and some other places that I can not find on maps Two i didn't find/wasn't announced earlier: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.569098&lon=36.439934&z=13&m=bs&gz=0;364037990;355575072;0;340678;96130;0
>>197044 Good to hear. I've taken an extended break from Shitposting General. Only stop in from time to time to see the latest, usually just lurk for a few.
>>197046 Coolio, personally i can't stand that dump anymore and decided all my /sg/ posting will be done here. Finally something happening aswell, feels good man. HTS just ate western Aleppo CS like a pack of starving piranhas last week.
>HTS took areas in Sahl Al Ghab and Jabal Shahshabo without losing 1 fighter... all claims of ambushes are lies. https://twitter.com/AlKhali72189230/status/1082740043096252418 Uhh, so the villages were not even fought for. What the hell... >Claims of a truce are false. What happened is Maarat noteables presented a 15 day truce but not agreed on yet... https://twitter.com/AlKhali72189230/status/1082740388211945473 >When HTS moved on Zinki, Ahrar attacked Saraqeb very hard taking many areas and nearly breaking through into the city. Similarly Suqour attacked several positions and killed 3 HTS members in one checkpoint. When HTS finished Zinki, now they act as if HTS attacked them in idlib https://twitter.com/AlKhali72189230/status/1082740857462317056
>>197126 This really has the making of another Abu ad Dahur three way free for all with SAA vs NLF vs HTS, jsut like previously FSA vs SAA vs ISIS. I still feel pity for the group of ISIS who were being pushed around by SAA for months, taking FSA land, just to be encircled and then making a dash into FSA land to surrender and end up being executed by them. Such a godforsaken group
>>197129 Don't worry, he just copied the image from somewhere else, guaranteed. >>197130 Aye, if only SAA were prepared... >pushed around by SAA for months, taking FSA land They were broken out of the pocket by FSA/HTS and in return backstabbed them lel.
>mfw I open up the warmap The absolute focken state, forget end of the year, Idlib will become completely "white" by the end of winter! Shitmaps in 15-35 mins.
>>197146 The way things are going, T*rkey can't possibly guard Idlib, get hyped for the Tigers kebab removal S O O N. Shame there wasn't a single KIA today though.
>#AlKhandaq 53 police, 8 ANA & 2 militiamen left enemy ranks & joined Mujahidin in Khas Balkh district #Balkh. Preaching, Guidance & Recruitment Commission welcomed them & eased them into normal lives. https://twitter.com/Zabihullah_4
>#AlKhandaq Cowardly enemy abandoned 16 CPs & 3 bases after learning of Mujahidin plans of attacking remaining enemy positions in Band Sharam & Gandab areas of Aab Kamari #Badghis. Entire area spanning 80 villages now under Mujahidin control - Ahmadi https://twitter.com/Zabihullah_4/status/1082577974707343362
>>197157 Tensions have been brewing in KSA for quite some time, it almost escalated with Khashoggi, and now the military is openly protesting against the king and crown prince.
>>197161 >#UAE plans to annex #Yemen's #Socotra island. Months ago, #UAE deployed many troops and armored vehicles in the island under the name of fighting Iran-backed #Houthi militias.This move was expected. https://twitter.com/VA1908AV/status/1080964677759365120 Huh
>>197177 Unless they already sent forces back - that's the bad part about Yemen and Afghan, they don't get as widespread coverage as Syria (every inch of Syria is under a fucking spotlight) and thus events sometimes take days or even months to get reported, or don't get reported at all.
>>197166 >Months ago, #UAE deployed many troops and armored vehicles in the island >Months ago Come on, be more specific! Months ago could mean 11 months ago or 2 months ago!
>>197180 I don't see anything anything that says they're planning on annexing socotra except a random ass twitter source, and I don't see anything at all tha says they have troops back there
>>197182 Found another source >... Yemen's Socotra Island - often called "Jewel of Arabia" because of its natural beauty (with 700 endemic species) - is firmly in the hands of UAE ... before the war - inhabitants have lived in harmony and isolation with nature for thousands of years ... https://twitter.com/domihol/status/1080855068268785664
>>197189 All this shit is because a UAE envoy visited the island and said that it would become part of the emirates and people would be granted citizenship. But the island is still under Hadi control, the UAE withdrew back in May
>>197222 Thanks, people are also saying that the signatures are from field commanders, not the AAS leaders, so that's a good sign that it might not eventuate. Interesting developments to say the least.
>>197223 Sahl al-Ghab = Al-Ghab Plain by the way, i assume the AAS who got cut off from Maarat Numan surrendered. Meaning, Qalaat al-Mudiq will probably be handed over.
>>197225 >>197226 Okay, that answered my question. I actually don't mind the fact that they surrendered without killing each other (although that would have been preferable), I'm just happy HTS is making more gains!
>>197230 Your initial post made me scared, desu. I thought the infighting was over for good, and that they must have agreed to unite against Assad or something... Never do that to me again.
>>197237 I'll make an educated guess and say it's somewhere around Armanaz. The control situation there is unclear and his accent sounds weird as hell, arabized k*rds live in that area, so maybe that's it.
>>197221 >Ahrar al-Sham in al-Ghab Plain & Jabal Shahshabo in rural Hama reach agreement to handover area completey to HTS & Salvation Gov, those who do not want to stay will be evacuated to “Olive Branch” areas in Turkish-occupied Afrin https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/1082934122501177344
New claims by YPG of captured ISIS foreignfighters in Syria near Hajin - including one they ID as a 16yo American - identified as Soulay Noah Su (Abu Souleiman al-Amriki), 16, USA
>A militant * (Zinki&friends camp) claims the "National Army" has captured 4points and the SyriaTel around Qalat Samaan >The "Elite Force" of the HTS regains control of SyriaTel, killing and capturing several militants while the rest fled to Afrin. https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1082962178095890434 So this is the power of NLF without t*rkish coordination and support? Impressive!
>Ahrar is now only present in Ma’arrat al-Nu’man and some of the surrounding villages. Suqour al-Sham maintains all of its positions in Ariha and the eastern part of Jabal al-Zawiya. HTS to begin moving soon on Ma’arra and Ariha. https://twitter.com/LaconicJaro/status/1082994204626903041
>>197261 Ahrar al-Sham in the al-Ghab plain is committing to dissolve and hand over medium and heavy weapons to #HTS. #NLF activists who are withdrawing can join #Afrin. Others will be able to join #HTS.
>>197265 #HTS forces penetrating Jabal Shahsbo (strategic summit). The zone in red = zone that will be given to #HTS after the agreement. #Syria Photo: @Abdillah_Lens
>>197280 Syrian Army kills several Turkish-backed rebels in new attack on northern Hama
BEIRUT, LEBANON (4:20 P.M.) – The Turkish-backed rebels were not able to catch a break on Wednesday as they found themselves sandwiched between two separate forces that were both looking to inflict damage on their defenses.
Led by their Republican Guard units, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) began their assault on northern Hama today by launching a large barrage of surface-to-surface missiles and artillery shells.
According to a military source in nearby Mhardeh, the Syrian Arab Army managed to kill several members of the Turkish-backed Al-Izza Army, while also destroying a number of trenches around the town of Al-Latamnah.
Syria’s top intelligence chief allegedly makes secret visit to Saudi Arabia
BEIRUT, LEBANON (4:40 P.M.) – Syria’s top intelligence chief Ali Mamlouk allegedly traveled to Riyadh recently to meet and discuss several issues with his Saudi counterparts, Lebanon’s Al-Joumhouria publication reported on Wednesday.
Lebanon resists Hezbollah pressure to issue invitation to Syrian delegation, Arab League cancels talks on readmission.
Syrian leader Bashar Assad is unlikely to be invited to the next Arab League summit in Tunisia in March, after a planned meeting to discuss Syria’s readmission to the body was canceled.
>>197290 Not my primary one but yeah, it's the secondary account I use to post memes and vote on polls. But I rarely use it. Oh God, that history is so embarrassing. Kek.
>A mortar landed in a school as forces from Afrin attempt to enter HTS controlled areas in Idlib countryside https://twitter.com/OGNreports/status/1083026276565299200 Ya allah, this crime against humanity (muslims) cannot be accepted!
Fighters among the National Liberation Front and civilians expected Turkey to back them against HTS, but now many believe that Turkey is allowing HTS to take over Idlib to justify regime offensive on the area in return for Russian permission to take Manbij and Kurdish areas.
The theory is, a couple of days ago it was reported that HTS had entered the southern parts of Basufan. The southern outskirts of Basufan just so happens to be at the tallest point of the Simeon highlands, an excellent defensive position that was utilized by YPG since the early days. They built trenches and outposts (green and orange circles) to defend themselves from the south. I'll bet my rectal virginity that this is what HTS captured and today NLF recaptured, both sides want it because of it's imperative strategic value. I have scoured the area and the orange circle has a telecommunications tower, making it the most probable location of the SyriaTel captured by NLF mentioned. Now that HTS has recaptured it, it's likely they decided to capture the village aswell so that the defensive positions can't be infiltrated from the village.
>>197314 >near Jindires Well that's an ambiguous description... I doubt HTS will capture any villages here. It's possible HTS wants to control the mountains or atleast the tallest/most defendable parts of the mountains here aswell. That, or it's just NLF fucking around.
>>197297 There was gas shortages for homes recently that improved some areas but others are still experiencing shortages so he fired two directors of the concerned department as a warning to others. On his visits to other countries he managed to secure some cash to shore up the depleting foreign cash reserve without going to the IMF and convinced them to increase their investment. Reportedly its upto 15 billion dollars now but Im not sure if thats accurate. The members of the older parties are being investigated for corruption and some have been been indicted resulting in mass butthurt from their supporters, fuckers have been going online and spreading bullshit all around. Anti encroachment (illegal ownership of property/land) movement going full swing.
On the other hand the circular debt is 11 billion dollars and a 9 billion dollar loan taken by the previous government has to be returned by May. Also with TTP increasing their attacks along with the Baloch separatist (revenge attacks for the assassination of their commanders in Kandahar a few days) shits going to be lit for sometime now.
>Alan Akbar, a common man, went to #Starbucks in #Manchester to take a coffee. The server asked him his name. Few minutes later the server started shouting “Alan Akbar! Alan Akbar!" So people started running away and dialing the police. https://twitter.com/Kyruer/status/1083093291221032961
>>197347 Well, Ali Taha and the Tigers are in Aleppo, SRG reportedly went to 'leppo aswell and the 5th corps are reportedly amassing in SE Idlib with lots of artillery pieces and heavy caliber stuff (no tanks though). An armored division brought tanks to Hama a couple of days ago aswell. Haven't seen any massive troop movement you'd expect from a SAA offensive though, maybe they're laying low until Marat Numan and Ariha has fallen to HTS aswell.
>>197350 >Haven't seen any massive troop movement you'd expect from a SAA offensive though That is because they are already there; they have been ever since Daraa. >inb4 they were moved to SDF lines for that regain of land they are sitting still around Idlib area duckhunting, sporadically tankshelling, while getting raided by islamists occassionally.
>>197357 >That is because they are already there; they have been ever since Daraa Hmm, after Daraa yeah, you have a point. Even though they sent soldiers to Manbij and DeZ there should be tons of manpower and equipment near the frontlines. >they are sitting still around Idlib area duckhunting But Suheil wasn't around, last i saw him he was in DeZ...
Here it is >>197371 Take note of how HTS has been surrounding the countryside around Maarrat al-Nu'man and Ariha. They went and captured the northern areas first (Aleppo CS), then the areas directly east of Maarrat al-Nu'man, then the southern areas (isolated areas north of Khan Shaykhun), and now they're capturing the western areas (Jabal Zawiya, Sahl al-Ghab).
Evidently, HTS either considers Maarrat al-Nu'man and Ariha to be strongholds (especially Maarrat al-Nu'man) that must be surrounded first before attacked, or they're looking to ramp up pressure on NLF and ensure an easy blitz by surrounding them on all fronts before the storm.
Take note that their attacks follow a roughly clockwise direction. If they hold true to this, I expect the Jisr al-Shughur CS will be the next battlefield in the infighting before they move on Maarrat al-Nu'man/Ariha - since the areas left after these two cities will be easy pickings since the area between the two cities makes up the "core" of the NLF.
One thing is certain: HTS isn't making all these gainz only to stop at those two cities, and the remaining areas will be easy pickings. HTS is seeking to capture all of Idlibstan.
>Jisr al-Shughur CS will be the next battlefield T*rkistan Islamic Party controls that area, not NLF. Maarrat al-Nu'man or Ariha are next (prob Ariha IMO). >HTS isn't making all these gainz only to stop at those two cities For sure. >the remaining areas will be easy pickings We'll see, the gains in the southwestern corner of Idlib the last two days hasn't had a single KIA, groups are capitulating left and right. >HTS is seeking to capture all of Idlibstan Aye. Their fanboys are raving about dissolving all other groups and uniting into a single entity so as to fend of SAA under a unified command.
I suspect the white box will be the first move, isolating Ariha from Marat.
>>197378 >T*rkistan Islamic Party controls that area, not NLF. Hmm. Then as you say, Maarrat and Ariha are next with a move to split the two from each other happening first, followed by a storm on all directions against each city. Then the eastern Idlibstan area will be easy pickings since they're isolated NLF against the brunt of HTS that isn't spread out on multiple fronts within Idlibstan anymore.
>>197381 >a move to split the two from each other happening first, followed by a storm on all directions against each city Fer shure. >the eastern Idlibstan area will be easy pickings since they're isolated Oh definitely, there won't be any resistance i reckon.
Hmm, Ariha is occupied by Suqour al-Sham and Maraat is occupied by Ahrar al-Sham, who do you think will fight hardest? Suqour has some pretty sweet APCs afterall.
>>197387 >the terrain favors them more Depends if they can hold the mountain overlooking the town. I'll make a shitty snusmap based on @Suriyak to demonstrate how bad things can be if you count TIP as HTS territory.
>>197392 That's because your map is wrong, in this area, NLF are not on the outskirts of Jisr al-Shughur. Orange = kinda your frontlines Black = kinda what i illustrated in my previous snusmap: >>197390
>>197390 Here's a continuation, showing how easily HTS could cut off Marat from Ariha, just a few tiny villages, two of which might even be HTS controlled already...
>>197396 Oh, you aren't Ebin. Uhh, well, i'm not blaming either of you, i didn't pay any attention when the last Idlib showdown happened so I'm just trusting Suriyak on this, he's almost always on point. Then again, this mapper is also reliable, and the frontlines at Ariha aren't the same: >>197225 So take my expert advice (pic related) with a grain of salt.
By the way Nate and Ebin, if you have the time and will to do it, please change the color of the green pocket in the Hama salient, due to their (Jaysh al-Izza) friendly relations with HTS, i wouldn't consider them to be NLF, especially not after this showdown. Maybe purple or light blue would fit.
>hoholmaps Idlib right now Besides Jisr and the Aleppo suburbs being wrongfully colored as NLF territory, their version of Idlib is even worse for NLF than other maps say.
>>197392 Uh Nate, look at the top, you left that one village to the NE of Darat Izza that's right on the lines with Olive Branch as a green dot when it should be grey. >>197402 Eh, thing is, look at the key at the bottom of my Shitmaps - it clearly defines grey/white as HTS only (no "& allies") with literally everyone else grouped together under the umbrella term as "Opposition" - exception being darkest green as TFSA and Turkish Army. tl;dr, if they ain't HTS itself, they stay green.
As we say in swedish, sent ska syndaren vakna (the sinner wakes late). Their garbage reporting and eventual result of the Darat Izza battle must have slapped some sense into them.
>>197413 Plus there's the appearance to be concerned about >green dots in a sea of white looks ugly af And then there's finding icons of the same size for various icons in those green areas that aren't muddied by other icons being on top of them or being on border. And then there's the issue of green icons (Kernaz, al-Banah, Kafr Zita) being on borders or having roads running through them. >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETISM I'm very autistic when it comes to Shitmaps, with a strong dose of OCD mixed in.
>>197415 I shall! On a side note, I'm okay with Left and Right but I, myself, do have trouble with knowing E/W straight away. My method (this is going to sound silly), is to visualize the locations of the Eastern and Western Roman Empires to find the answer quickly. >mfw every time someone says east or west, I have to do this...
>>197417 I don't think he's in the literal town by the way, it looks like he's somewhere in the recently captured areas west of Maraat with al-Arba'een mountain in the background.
>Ahrar al-Sham & other FSA rebels are currently joining #HTS and handing over their weapons to the group & the other fighters who refuse to join #HTS are moving to #Afrin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austerity_in_Israel >Soon after establishment in 1948, the emerging state of Israel found itself lacking in both food and foreign currency. In just three and a half years, the Jewish population of Israel had doubled, increased by nearly 700,000 immigrants. Consequently, the Israeli government instigated measures to control and oversee distribution of necessary resources to ensure equal and ample rations for all Israeli citizens. >In 1952 the reparations agreement was signed with West Germany, compensating the Jewish state for confiscation of Jewish property during the Holocaust. The resulting influx of foreign capital was a huge boost to the state's struggling economy, and led to the cancellation of most restrictions in 1953 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_Agreement_between_Israel_and_West_Germany >the agreement was signed in September 1952, and West Germany paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks over the next fourteen years; 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress. The payments were made to the State of Israel as the heir to those victims who had no surviving family. > After Stalin died in March 1953, Israel hoped to negotiate reparations agreement with the East German government >but the latter refused so.
>>197424 Yep, maybe not only using real busses, but the idea is the same. More ironic is the fact that HTS members who got green bussed from southern Syria etc are doing the same to their fellow rebels.
>>197430 There's a dilemma though, what about the TFSA wankers in Afrin, what if they expand when HTS are focusing on other stuff, do you think the Syrian gov minds? Furthermore, isolating HTS from Afrin would strengthen HTS and put more weight on SAA's shoulders... Think Russia could convince T*rkey to forbid TFSA/ES/NLF from advancing?
>>197432 >do you think the Syrian gov minds? Snus, I... >Furthermore, isolating HTS from Afrin would strengthen HTS and put more weight on SAA's shoulders… How? It'd mean TFSA and Turkish Army can't intervene from Afrin. Also >Implying TFSA can't move through Turkey to reach Idlib Again, Snus, I... >Think Russia could convince T*rkey to forbid TFSA/ES/NLF from advancing? I dunno, Erdogan doing nothing seems to indicate he doesn't want those proxies anymore - TFSA was created not to fight ISIS or Assad, but to keep Kurds under control. No more Kurdish threat, no more TFSA relevancy.
>>197434 >How? It'd mean TFSA and Turkish Army can't intervene from Afrin. That means less pressure on them. >TFSA can move through Turkey to reach Idlib Dang, good point... Now that you mention it, TFSA expanding into Idlib is unavoidable unless first thing SAA does is capturing the border or Erdomeme goes complete redemption arc.
>>197440 >Wait is the Watermelon Seller trying to take land in Syria? Always. But the point is, when HTS becomees occupied with SAA offensives, T*rkey can literally take free gains in Idlib.
>>197438 >That means less pressure on them. Snus, SAA took back 1/3 of Greater Idlibstan over the course of two months. If SAA decides to go all-in into Idlib, HTS is royally screwed. >Russian air support >Russian cruise missile strikes (a form of air support) >Mukhabarat/Spetsnaz IDing commanders and assassinating them >Pro-Assad civilians behind enemy lines (I forget Arabic name for them) suddenly seizing towns or fucking up HTS' shit while SAA is attacking >SAA has had several months of R&R to calm down from the fighting and become fresh with years of combat experience! >SAA outnumbers HTS and all other rebel groups in Idlibstan combined >>197443 And then they have to answer to the Russian Bear, or has /mlsg/ forgotten about how Russia trashed Turkey's economy after the Su-24 got shot down?
>>197444 >(I forget Arabic name for them I just remembered them: Shabiha. >Shabiha is a derogatory term for supporters of the Syrian government and Bashar Al-Assad, especially Alawites and other non-Sunnis. However, in the Aleppo Governorate the term Shabiha is used frequently to refer to pro-Assad Sunni tribes such as al-Berri, al-Baggara, al-Hasasne and al-Zeido.
>>197444 >took back 1/3 of Greater Idlibstan over the course of two months Tiny villages on farmland. Latakia, western Idlib and Aleppo will be different. >Pro-Assad civilians behind enemy lines Sleeper cells, villages/towns surrendering, groups dissatisfied with HTS switching sides. You're right, it can happen. >And then they have to answer to the Russian Bear Putin seems to be BFF with Erdomeme nowadays though.
>>197448 >Tiny villages on farmland. >Latakia, western Idlib and Aleppo will be different. True, but the advantage is still massively in favor of the SAA, especially if SAA bypasses the strongholds, seize the weak areas, and save the strongholds for last by way of an active siege. >Putin seems to be BFF with Erdomeme nowadays though. Doesn't mean that can't change, one major fuckup by Erdogan and he will pay for it.
>>197451 Come to think of it, SAA did this in 2015 when Aleppo was active and SAA were stretched thin. I'm worrying about nothing, Idlib will be liberated. >one major fuckup by Erdogan and he will pay for it I don't think Putin would mind if 1/3 of Idlib got captured by TFSA tbqh...
Sources are stating that a solution has finally been reached. Ahrar And Suqour agreed with HTS to hand over all remaining areas to the Salvation govt. Seems to entail that Ahrar and Suqour will remain in Idlib... Not yet official.. If true. It means their is official one governing body to run the liberated areas. Also shows that HTS, by not fully disbanding these groups, has chosen to have 'mercy' rather then harshness. Again these sources are not fully confirmed yet but they are usually accurate. https://twitter.com/AlKhali72189230/status/1083211105865031680
>>197452 >I don't think Putin would mind if 1/3 of Idlib got captured by TFSA tbqh… He's already voiced complaints about Turkey being in Syria, and he's repeatedly and consistently reaffirmed Russia's devotion to restoring Syria's territory integrity - that means Turkey gets out in the end, no ifs ands or buts about it. >>197454 >>197456 Wew, that renders the DMZ agreement between Russia and Turkey null and void. BIG IF TRUE
>Fighters of Afrin Liberation Forces on January 9 struck a Turkish army outpost with ATGM in Afrin’s Shera town, killing a soldier and wounding 2 others. An armored personnel carrier was also destroyed as result of the operation. https://twitter.com/HRE_official/status/1083281500014034945 >In a simultaneous operation, one of our units have carried out another ATGM attack on jihadists in Azaz, which killed 4 jihadists https://twitter.com/HRE_official/status/1083282476057923586 They've been growing bolder.
>No doubt #Turkey asked Ahrar et al to stand down & avoid fighting (for now). It means #Ankara would be happy to see the end of its presence in #Idlib on the long term. For this, Erdogan needs to see a very large battle taking place first in the north between these groups and #AQ >Erdogan & Putin will have a meeting soon to discuss the #Kurds and #AQ in #Idlib. I expect hot spring in Idlib and a large offensive against Hayat Tahrir al-Sham. Abu Mohammad al Joulani's ambition (from ex-ISIS emir to AQ Emir to ruler of Idlib) is helping to end this phenomena. >This is why I said the other day that I am, for the 1st time, optimistic #Turkey will not stay forever in #Syria & will pull out following the defeat of #AQ. #Ankara will ask #Moscow to seek a national reconciliation because it won't be able 2 offer anything 2 its Syrian proxies. >#USA is determined to abandon the Kurds regardless who will control #Manbij or Al-Hasaka province. #Turkey is not replacing US forces once these leave the Kurds to their fate. The deal between #Damascus #Moscow and the #Kurds is near. More on this topic tomorrow in my article. >The $137 bn paid by #Qatar, the 10s of billions spent by #SaudiArabia, the extensive training given to "rebels", years of conspiracy by the #USA & #EU against the #Syrian people to destroy their country & create a jihadists chaos & a fail state vanished in days by #AQ offensive. https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1083284250273693698
>#Turkey FM comments on HTS Hayat Tahrir al Sham's offensive and subsequent takeover of areas in northwest ... "Radical groups are attacking the Syrian opposition ... we have taken necessary measures to halt these attacks.” #Idlib https://twitter.com/ZeinakhodrAljaz/status/1083287577443123201 >we have taken necessary measures to halt these attacks AYYLMOA
Jihadists take control of Idlib province after collapse of Turkish-backed rebels
The main jihadist alliance in Syria’s Idlib region reached a deal on Thursday ending days of deadly fighting with rival rebels and extending its influence over the whole rebel enclave, AFP reported.
The agreement brings an immediate end to the fighting between Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), led by Al-Qaeda’s former Syria affiliate, and the rival Turkish-backed National Liberation Front (NLF), according to the jihadists’ propaganda website Ebaa.
Over 1,500 Turkish-backed rebels exit southwest Idlib after agreement with jihadists
BEIRUT, LEBANON (2:20 P.M.) – Over, 1,500 militants from the Turkish-backed National Liberation Front (NLF) have exited the southwestern countryside of the Idlib province, rebel activists claimed via social media.
According to the reports, the National Liberation Front withdrew approximately 1,700 militants from the Jabal Shashabo and Al-Ghaab Plain fronts after they reached an agreement with the jihadist-led Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham group.
Turkey Warns it Will Launch North Syria Offensive if US Delays Pullout
Turkey will launch an offensive against Syrian Kurdish forces if the United States delays the withdrawal of its troops from the war-torn country, the foreign minister said Thursday.
"If the (pullout) is put off with ridiculous excuses like Turks are massacring Kurds, which do not reflect the reality, we will implement this decision," Mevlut Cavusoglu told NTV television, according to Agence France Presse.
>>197441 but snus, why would HTS do that? They know not to aggitate Turkey? Those watchposts are irrelevant anyways, when it comes to attacking Idlib. Some really wise guy said this in an older /sg/ thread, and I totally think that he is very right. Like this kid spends his entire awake time focusing on this civil war, so obviously he will make a just and right assesment of the situation and never a laughable or faulty prediction (like, oh, simultaneous coordinated attack on Idlib). :)
>>197531 Entirely different scenario where there's no conflict between TAF/NLF/ES/TFSA and HTS. The tiny outposts are still not a threat to HTS, my buttflustered friend, an attack on convoys pulling out wouldn't have to be sanctioned by HTS leadership, hell IS could pull something similar as they did when muh HTS bombed the very fast t*rks. :) >prediction It wasn't a prediction, merely a possible scenario, which might still happen when SAA goes on the offensive mind you (T*rkey securing muh border when HTS are busy).
>Russia|n MoD said: "#Turkey should admit that Idlib has become a central point of terrorism. We will take steps regarding this matter because threatens our interests in Syria". https://twitter.com/Kyruer/status/1083394624520179713
>>197546 Ohhh dear, pls be true and not some AAS stragglers fighting HTS or some shit. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.402204&lon=36.395975&z=15&m=bs&show=/20959610/Qalaat-al-Madiq According to most maps, SAA controls the southern outskirts of the town, weirdly enough there never are any reports of fighting. AFAIK not even during the infamous Hama offensives. The locals seem to have been rather neutral, so i'm sure this is happening only because HTS showed up.
Situation of militants-held areas in northwest of #Syria Turkish, Russian and Iranian observation posts added to the map. #TahrirAlSham #HTS took control of Al Ghab plain and Jabal Shahshabo areas.(yellow) https://twitter.com/A7_Mirza/status/1083454864204668930
Tahrir al-Sham concludes Idleb takeover: • Ahrar & Suqour approve Salvation rule across entire region. • SIG rolled back to Efrin/Bab • US/EU stabilization pet project Free Police shuts down. • Abu Jaber pushes for firmer NLF co-optation by offering stake in Salvation bodies.
>>197541 I saw a comment about this, I want to hear /sg/'s thoughts on this:
>There has been a lot of confusion regarding US policy in Syria and foreign policy in general. I offer here an explanation for what I believe is driving the chaos. I will start with some examples of US actions/statements that illustrate what seems to be a schizophrenic policy approach on the world stage.
>Consider Southern Syria and US statements. The US states there will be severe repercussions for Syria if they launch an offensive to liberate rebel (terrorist) held territory. The US then releases a statement that completely contradicts the prior threat and practically disowns their proxies in southern Syria % effectively,encouraging them to reconcile with Damascus.
>Then consider rebel reactions. As expected, given their being abandoned by Washington, rebels clamour for reconciliation with Damascus. Then, rebels begin resisting reconciliation and even join ISIS. Why do that after the US threw them under a bus? Does not make much sense. Well US relations with Turkey have made little sense as well, same with Russia. It is like taking an extreme cold shower followed by an extreme hot shower - and repeat again and again.
>We are going to leave Syria. No, we are going to stay a while, build new military base. Putin is a good guy. We shoot down a Russian fighter. Turkey is our ally. Let’s arm the Kurds. Let’s abandon the Kurds. No wait... we are working out a deal says Turkey, greeted by odd silence from the US - WTF! NATO is obsolete. NATO is critical to counter Russian aggression and we are sticking by our allies in Europe. Let’s start a trade war and invite Russia back into the the G8 as I rush off to meet little rocket man who is now my best freind.
>I want world peace. Meet my new national security advisor, John Bolton.
>What this looks like is two different policy agendas in play that are at cross purposes to each other. Consider the opening scenes of Sum of all Fears and The Dawns Early Light. Trump is not in full control, not even close. But then, neither is the opposing side, often referred to as the deep state. I prefer to put it more simply - Trump represents elites attempting to replace the elites that dominate power structures. The two sets of elites have different visions of what the future should look like and policies reflect that. Since both are not in full control but also wield power, both policy agendas are being played out on the world stage simultaneously.
>This struggle among elites is not new, it goes back to at least the 1980s and over time the struggle has become increasingly tense. The intensity built till we had soft civil war and the rivalries were not only across agencies, but also within. Agencies such as the CIA split based on different views on where the CIA should head - many rejected the course that adopted torture as acceptable and more extreme measures against own citizens on larger scales that were basically to become out of control. This was at first under the surface, but no longer. The divisions are quite visible now.
>The US is not heading into a new civil war. The US is in a state of civil war.
>Where this is heading is very dangerous. But there is certainly hope as the people are waking up and can play a decisive role here.
>>197643 Hey Ebin, are you going to post a map soon or do you want me to? Basically, it's just the laborious task of changing nearly the green (apart from 2 pockets) into white. I figure that if one of us does it, the other can easily copy it to their map (which is ideal). Or we can both spend the effort doing the same thing (not ideal). I'm happy with either of us doing it.
>>197648 np. Although tbqh, it shouldn't be green or white, it should be a colour indicating thst they have surrendered but nothing more (like how we used purple for SAA / NLF). But we can't really use purple here because it is too close to red. Also, a very light green would look stupid. No good solution, desu.
>#SDF/#SDC talks with Damascus are going very well and the sides are close to a preliminary understanding which will be the base for further negotiations. Main topics are oil fields, SD>>197659 F’s gradual integration into #SAA, borders, public services https://twitter.com/zana_med/status/1083538419421204480
Hey Nate, can you raise a proposal to Wikipedia for marking the areas controlled by Jaish al-Izza (remaining areas in Hama) and Turkestan Islamic Party (Jisr ash-Shughur CS) as HTS-controlled due to their alliances with HTS, and have HTS icon be "Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and allies" instead of just plain "Tahrir al-Sham (HTS)"? Thanks in advance.
>Graduation of a new course of the province's members affiliated with the Internal Security Forces in Al-Hasaka City. https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1083690000032641025 Brand spanking new AK-103's? Stop playing in the mud with them please...
>>197710 Good idea. I'll see what I can do, but my effectiveness depends on the map. With the Iraq + Syria map, I'm basically the one in charge and all the other editors do what I tell them, so that won't be a problem With the Syria map, nobody ever listens to my suggestions (I'm like the proverbial wise old voice crying in the wilderness with nobody to hear). Therefore >>197711 will probably happen.
>"Soon many surprises in northern Syria they will change many things in the regional situation and in the political process, what are you hearing in the media is different from what is being prepared" - Sargon is a journalist in RT, well-connected in both Moscow and Damascus. https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1083749407856754694
>>197770 to answer your question the borders are de facto merged with all shengen countries (both EU countries and non EU), nothing new, also economies are already kinda merged due to euro, nothing new, defense policies are already merged due to NATO, nothing new so i really don't understand what they mean with their lame attempt at sensationalism
>>197774 yup, scheduled for April. new parties popping left and right Bibi is throwing tantrums and accusing the police of being biased most people think it's stupid because polls show coalition won't change so much and it's just a giant waste of time and money. only meaningful thing that could happen is if bibi gets indicted before the elections.
>>197776 >Bibi is throwing tantrums and accusing the police of being biased but isn't the army and police usually pro bibi? also all of this just to force the haredim into military service? seems too much or am i missing something?
>>197777 police definitely no they really dislike him I think there's 4 concurrent investigations on him atm the media hates him even more he says it's a witch hunt haredi service is the core issue yes also Lieberman quit (with the rest of his party) because he said bibi is too soft on gaza so the coalition got really small for bibs, couldn't pass any laws etc. so elections were inevitable.
>>197779 >also do the media hate him because he isn't hard enough on gaza, syria, iran etc? no, other way around media is extremely left leaning bibi is right wing and thus the media dislikes him his wife is kind of a nutcase and the media published a lot of unflattering articles about her media calls him corrupt etc.
>why do the cops hate him? well, he probably is somewhat corrupt, and the police are giving him a hard time for it. then again everyone else is corrupt but they aren't getting the same obsessive treatment.
>>197780 >media is extremely left leaning how come there aren't any right wing media outlet? considering the government is right wing one would assume that the average israeli is right wing thus creating a bigger market for right wing media or is it because being right wing is considered anti-semitic in israel? >published a lot of unflattering articles about her any examples? sauce if possible
>>197633 I think all this internal chaos comes from the wide bureaucracy inside Washington, where power is not consolidated around the president and the government is fighting "the enemy within" (itself) most of the time. This causes the constant back-and-forth, Trump has one idea, advisor A agrees with him, so he says "We will do this..." When he says so, suddenly a whole faction/lobby inside the government pressures Trump by saying "No, no, we should do the opposite" or ignores/modifies the order because they are able to.
When this happens for a long time you get these incoherent results.
Regarding Trump and his actions (2nd half of post), I don't really have an answer, Trump is more susceptible to these changes due to his character and experience I guess, but this problem I described occurs in most Western democracies.
Compare this with China, where "Xi Jinping Thought" is the guidance of the sole political party of the state, and the power is concentrated in the party and around the president. They don't have the issue of constant internal power struggles and lobbying, where Western democracies suffer from.
Plus, China actually has a long-term strategy, whereas in the West the strategy is limited to 4-8 years, even though Macaroni wants to change that.
>>197781 >how come there aren't any right wing media outlet? well the basic gestalt is this TV: there are 4 main channels
10 is very left wing/SJW, let's call it israeli MSNBC 11 is old and boring, basically israeli NPR 12 is supposed to be in the middle but it's more left wing in reality. also the most popular by far. so israeli CNN. 20 is the only self admitted right wing channel, but is very unpopular in comparison. so israeli fox news.
newspapers: Yediot(ynet)- the most popular by a mile, left wing. bibi accused them of personal harassment several times. Maariv(I wonder if this word has shared etymology with Arabic btw, means evening/west) - 2nd largest, kinda in the middle. Haaretz - extremely left wing/pro Palestinian. Israel today- right wing, bibi propaganda, funded by his friend Sheldon Adelson. quite popular cause it's free.
>considering the government is right wing one would assume that the average israeli is right wing thus creating a bigger market for right wing media It's the same way it is in Europe and other places, somehow leftists have gained near total control on the media everywhere regardless of what the population stance is.
>>197784 >I wonder if this word has shared etymology with Arabic btw, means evening/west most likely west/sunset/morocco is maghrib (المغرب) >quite popular cause it's free. so... the rumors are true :^) >It's the same way it is in Europe and other places uhh not here at least, you've got about as much right wing journals than left wing one, as for the extreme of the spectrum i'd say you've got a slight balance in favor of far left in the MSM category yet far right tend to dominate "independent media"
>>197790 >most likely >west/sunset/morocco is maghrib (المغرب) wow, cool. so that why the region is called the maghreb?
>so… the rumors are true :^) kek, yep. also it's distributed freely in each railway station so it has a large outreach.
>uhh not here at least, you've got about as much right wing journals than left wing one Interesting, I suppose that being a bigger country with a large population will do that. see pic rel for example in comparison. Iv'e only ever heard about France24 and le Monde, yet there's so many other publications. you have far more extra room for opinions and people to support them. I dunno, media here always had leftist bias. maybe it resembles america more - very touchy and sensitive etc. e.g. refugees and such. y'know, the whole "don't be a nazi" thing, which is extra emphasized here obv.
>>197793 >so that why the region is called the maghreb? pretty much, it means both the whole maghreb region and morocco as a country >I suppose that being a bigger country with a large population will do that yep Valeurs actuelles right wing to far right Le Figaro right wing (the biggest right wing one) Les Echos right wing La Tribune right wing Le Point center right Le Parisien center to center right 20 minutes center Le Canard enchaîné center but mainly contrarian (so against whichever party is in the government) Le Monde center to center left Le Nouvel Observateur center left L'Express center left Libération center left Marianne left wing L'humanité left wing to far left
come to think of it i see more right wing/center right than left wing
>>197796 do you know the story behind that dudes profile pic? >>197793 >y'know, the whole "don't be a nazi" thing, which is extra emphasized here obv. you german?
>>197795 >pretty much, it means both the whole maghreb region and morocco as a country Cool, can't believe I didn't know this before.
>come to think of it i see more right wing/center right than left wing very surprised tbh, I was under the impression France is left leaning, you know with le pen defeated and the generally lax attitude towards migrants. but it's good that you have somewhat free press and variety of opinions to choose from. much better than in here.
>>197797 dang, that's a lot of papers. but nice to see such big range.
>>197800 > I was under the impression France is left leaning eh, i'd say half half although it's historically more left leaning than it's neighbors > you know with le pen defeated more complex than that, front national has adopted a strategy of moderation (to the point that it is starting to look more and more like mainstream right wing parties) throughout the years to increase the votes so it has taken a lot from les républicains (before they were called UMP) (the biggest right wing party) so this has fractured the right and has made it way harder for them to take over after françois hollande who was so shitty that he pretty much paved the way for a les républicain victory https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historique_des_gouvernements_de_la_France#Cinqui%C3%A8me_R%C3%A9publique it shows you presidents at the top (pink is PS the main left wing party, blue is UMP the main right wing party and yellow is macron) and the parliament's majority in the bottom half >the generally lax attitude towards migrants not more than the rest of EU countries, if anything it's far less than germany or sweden (hell, even the police tend to illegally deport them into italy (as in take them into a van, croos the italian border and drop them off) which infuriates the italian government) >it's good that you have somewhat free press depends of your definition of free press
>>197802 >more complex than that, front national has adopted a strategy of moderation (to the point that it is starting to look more and more like mainstream right wing parties) throughout the years to increase the votes so it has taken a lot from les républicains That's a pity. do they have any chance of recovering for the next election cycle?
>it shows you presidents at the top (pink is PS the main left wing party, blue is UMP the main right wing party and yellow is macron) and the parliament's majority in the bottom half Chirac was great innit, at least that's what I remember hearing.
>hell, even the police tend to illegally deport them into italy (as in take them into a van, croos the italian border and drop them off) Dang, really? I thought it was literally the other way around with Salvini now at the helm.
>depends of your definition of free press Well, in the sense of greater range and acceptance of views/right/left. here it's very one dimensional relatively speaking.
>>197803 still better than only leftists pushing their own agenda.
>>197804 > diversity is our strength meh, I guess you have a point but the press also makes people fucking NPC's. e.g. typical "right-winger" talking about "muh commies destroying our country" when someone mentions social security. or typical "left-winger" talks about "moron right-wing, authoritarian fascist" when someone says weed shouldn't be legal. These people are brain-fed by the press they deem "truthful". I wish people would read more scientific articles/books and less bullshit tbh
>>197804 >That's a pity. do they have any chance of recovering for the next election cycle? who? les républicains? most likely if they don't get stabbed in the back (fillion was the main candidate for the race and had the best chances to win yet (((someone))) tipped the journal of investigation "le canard enchainé" about the fact that he stole money by falsly claiming that he had his wife as a work assistant so that she gets paid money so he ended up being shat on by all medias right before the election) le pen i highly doubt, the last debate she had with macron before the second turn of election (in france there is a two turn vote system, first time every party (or independent runner) that is eligible for presidential election can present a candidate for the vote, the two biggest winners get to go to second turn of vote which will decide who is elected, the second turn is skipped if someone gets 51% of the votes during the first turn) she really did poorly and has shown publicly that she was utterly incompetent as in she was economically illiterate, she didn't have long term plans aside from "we leave EU and close the borders and everything will magically fix itself" >Chirac was great innit nah he was unpopular during his time too (same like most presidents after ww2 except it gets worse every new president), only difference is it's so worse now so people have nostalgia for old times. the only thing worth noting about him is how he won the second mandate with 92% of the votes because the other candidate was jean marie lepen (and back then front national was more radical and less popular) >I thought it was literally the other way around with Salvini now at the helm. nah salvini is trying to get them back to africa or at the very least prevent them from getting into europe (that is when he isn't trying to bring le based negro refugee and say that they will (the blacks refugees) proper italians) pic rel also avoid getting your political opinions from /pol/ it's as unreliable if not more than buzzfeed (especially when it's an amerimutt trying to lecture people about how things are in europe when he himself couldn't find europe on a map) >Well, in the sense of greater range and acceptance of views/right/left eh, let's say it's open from far left to right wing (not further right than that)
>>197805 No, your'e right. it's all trash in the end. I meant that in general it's nice to have broader range of options to read. but ultimately all sides are superficial in their own way. I guess I just tired from the coverage here since it's always the same with the same talking points. but I agree on the principle. I stopped reading paper publication for the most part anyway.
>>197806 >"le canard enchainé" about the fact that he stole money by falsly claiming that he had his wife as a work assistant so that she gets paid money so he ended up being shat on by all medias right before the election) kek, sounds familiar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_Account_affair
>As Rabin was preparing for the elections, it was revealed that his wife held a bank account in the United States, an act that was illegal at the time. Following the decision to prosecute her, Rabin resigned after three years in office.
>she really did poorly and has shown publicly that she was utterly incompetent as in she was economically illiterate She struck me as much. oh well.
> only difference is it's so worse now so people have nostalgia for old times He's remembered fondly here, I suppose he had good relations with the gov.
>nah salvini is trying to get them back to africa or at the very least prevent them from getting into europe (that is when he isn't trying to bring le based negro refugee and say that they will (the blacks refugees) proper italians) What causes such disparity between his will to deny entry and yet welcoming Africans. hmmm.
>also avoid getting your political opinions from /pol/ it's as unreliable if not more than buzzfeed I don't, my point about France and lax immigration rules was because of the relative ease ex. colony members can settle there. (or at least could in the not so distant past)
>>197812 >He's remembered fondly here, why tho? he was anti iraq war >He is also known for his recognition of the collaborationist French Government's role in deporting Jews, oh that must be that >What causes such disparity between his will to deny entry and yet welcoming Africans i think he's going for the "you must do it lawfully by being an actual refugee and properly applying for asylum" and "look how not racist i am" type of thing >I don't your point reminded me of the retarded shit i see on 4chinz about "le bazed salvini personally physically removing muslims and niggers while macron is actively importing them by asking the french navy to go in the Mediterranean and look for refugees to import" that i hear so often by amerimutts trying to lecture europeans about what's happening in europe >ex. colony members can settle there. (or at least could in the not so distant past) uhh the only time this was facilitated was the few decades post WW2 when france needed low skilled manpower but aside from that it really wasn't more lax than any european country ie you don't have a maghrebi privilege if you try to immigrate
>>197824 >why tho? he was anti iraq war Not sure 2bh. probably just nostalgia as you said. >oh that must be that kek.
>i think he's going for the "you must do it lawfully by being an actual refugee and properly applying for asylum" and "look how not racist i am" type of thing As long as it's just virtue signalling, eh. gotta wonder how Italians aren't sick of that shit.
>your point reminded me of the retarded shit i see on 4chinz Wasn't try to imply that, pardon.
>uhh the only time this was facilitated was the few decades post WW2 when france needed low skilled manpower but aside from that it really wasn't more lax than any european country ie you don't have a maghrebi privilege if you try to immigrate Officially, but how many from Maghreb enter and overstay? (genuinely curious) >In 2006, The French Ministry of the Interior estimated clandestine immigrants ("sans-papiers ") in France numbered anywhere between 200,000 and 400,000, also expecting between 80,000 and 100,000 people to enter the country illegally each year.[50]
>>197831 >Officially, but how many from Maghreb enter and overstay? (genuinely curious) most of the new immigration comes from ex french colonies (as in every ex colonial power) but the new arrivals are few and most maghrebis are second/third generation
>>197831 >>In 2006, The French Ministry of the Interior estimated clandestine immigrants ("sans-papiers ") in France numbered anywhere between 200,000 and 400,000, also expecting between 80,000 and 100,000 people to enter the country illegally each year.[50] the majority of the illegals go to spain or italy by boat btw
Update2: sources in Damascus told me that the airstike's target was likely in Jdeidat Artouz or Al-Kiswah south of Damascus. However, this is not confirmed yet.
Update The 4 Israeli jets conducted the raid Launched 8 missiles and 4 bombs from over north #Palestine and south #Lebanon Here’s two of the hostile missiles heading towards south #Damascus https://twitter.com/SyrainMC/status/1083844980882460672
>>197873 tl;dr? Aleppo liberation, Deir ez Zor liberation, every inch liberation ongoing, Issam Zahreddine died, kruds lost Afrin canton for turkish backed rebels, HTS (AQ) won Idlib.
>Pro-#AlQaeda/#FSA news media are releasing #FakeNews claiming that 4 C-130s of #IranAirForce are destroyed by #Israel Air Force in #Damascus International Airport. It is fake because there has been maximum two of them there & they never posed a threat to #Israel! https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1083855675023859712
Final gif. As I said before, I'm still a little unsure about the last frame. Obviously HTS had not entered those areas but the NLF agreed to surrender them, so I couldn't keep it green. Just keep that in mind.
>>197906 Methink those tiny pockets shouldn't exist, especially not the one under Jisr al-Shughur. Will look neat as heck when SAA starts the offensive now that Idlib is under a single banner.
>>197907 Yeah, I might change that. You can say what you like about one side being better than another, geopolitical reasons for support or what have you, but at the end of the day, all we really ever want are aesthetically pleasing maps...
>>197802 >(hell, even the police tend to illegally deport them into italy (as in take them into a van, croos the italian border and drop them off) which infuriates the italian government) wew, imagine the media shitstorm here if that happened with these sp*Cs. >>197827 >Coastal frontlines >>197852 A note that I must make regarding the lack of use of the S-300: It's literally one step below S-400, and the Syrians have limited amounts of the S-300 launchers and the missiles for them. I figure these raids are bait to get Syria to use S-300 against targets that aren't really deserving of such a system - take note, this raid ended with only one missile hitting its mark (AFAIK), the rest were shot down by SyAD without using S-300. It's better to keep using Pantsirs and S-200s for shooting down almost every missile than to use S-300 against a target that's not worth it, and give the enemy valuable intelligence about the S-300 and to a lesser extent the S-400 for almost free. tl;dr, they're not using S-300 for OPSEC and are saving it for raids/attacks that are truly dangerous.
5 Stages of Collapse as defined by Dmitry Orlov in his seminal book “The Five Stages of Collapse: Survivors’ Toolkit” where he mentions the following 5 stages of collapse:
Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in “business as usual” is lost. Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that “the market shall provide” is lost. Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that “the government will take care of you” is lost. Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that “your people will take care of you” is lost. Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in “the goodness of humanity” is lost.
>You're country >Where are you at? >Inb4 everyone answers with "5"
>>197952 These fuckers are basically SDF (you might remember all the times there was talks of moving them to Hasakah/DeZ), so I'd rule TFSA/HTS territory out and since SDF will reconcile with Damascus once the burgers are gone...
>tfw unlocked road painting on wikimapia Now I have to paint all the unpainted roads in Idlib that could be used during the offensive. My autism is growing stronger.
>Baha’ Hariri brother of Lebanese PM Saad Hariri, has been trying to reopen channels of communication with Syrian businessmen close to President Assad through ‘mutual friends’ in Jordan & Russia. Baha’ is in contact with Saudis who are looking to reopen communication with Damascus https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/1083977018155253761
>Ankara asked for more time and for postponing the start of joint patrols in Idlib due to its inability to provide security guarantees. I swear if these roaches defend HTS...
Hey Guys, apparently there has been big time flooding in Idlib the last few days. It has destroyed many "refugee camps" according to Australian media. Is God punishing them for being terrorists? It seems so, it seems so.
>>198074 At this point, how much money have they wasted on bullets trying to shoot down high altitude jets? One would think that they'd figure it doesn't work after not downing a single burger plane for years...
>>198103 there isn't a "ceiling" but bombers fly lower in order to ease the acquisition of target and flight higher when not engaging a target in order to avoid taking ground fire
>>198104 Surely you aren't implying that the burgers are flying some of their most expensive heavy bombers at an altitude that can be reached with simple heavy machine guns...?
>>198106 no but they're flying them close enough to encourage an attempt to use machine gun suppression fire (btw "machine gun" can mean more than just 7.62x54r caliber weapons when the term is used by medias)
>Opposition’s Orient TV, whose wealthy owner (Ghassan Abboud) lives and works in #UAE is now attacking the Qatari based part of #Syria ‘s opposition. The latter is counter attacking by charging @OrientNews of having hosted #AlQaeda affiliated jihadists https://twitter.com/EHSANI22/status/1084318442654785536
Who edits the Houthi footage?and why are they so radically different from anything in Syria (even SAA who uses US film music sometimes)? Just remember the Houthi video (I believe it was said they made, not simply some fanboy) using Black Sabbath-Iron Man.
>>198250 >By taking over Idlib, HTS signed its death sentence. Russia and Turkey are increasing their cooperation to isolate and eventually finish that pro-al-Qaeda terror organization.
>Militant Aleppo Correspondent says A Thousand (1,000) fighters from the National Front for Liberation جبهة الوطنية للتحريرJabhat al-Wataniya lil-Tahrir are gonna leave Hama Region to go to Afrin after agreement made with #HTS Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham will get Heavy Weaponry https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1084537551271219200
>R.I.P. to the #SAA #SyrianArmy Hassan Ahmed Hassan Ali from Homs Region. He was Martyred today in Homs, Palmyra, Suknah Area during Battles against Militants. https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1084556865709768704 So there's still fighting near Sukhnah eh?
>>198284 When will Astana or in general Russia+Turkey meet where it can be agreed to have Turkish soldiers leave the region and give way to an SAA offensive finally? This is not even funny in a not even funny way anymore. >Idlib when?
Ambassador Jim Jeffrey was knee deep in negotiations with the Turks when Bolton's remarks in Israel upended his discussions. Jeffrey was furious, said people familiar with the talks
>>198377 He's part of a religious minority in Syria you know. He has to indoctrinate the people that way to keep as many s*nnis as possible subservient.
There we go, I've familiarized myself with and painted 1000 km of road in Idlib on wikimapia the last two days. Mr. Assad, you have my permission to launch the offensive, my body is ready.
#Joulani leader of #HTS jihadist militia : we believe that the #PKK/#YPG is an enemy of the revolution, they control Sunni majority areas, places we had liberated. So we will not oppose a #Turkey offensive. https://twitter.com/SimNasr/status/1084745653190823941
>>198392 >Seems HTS changing its ideas/mind. Before HTS leader Al-Masri said participating in East Euphrates was haram (after which HTS-NFL/Zinki clashes started, and HTS expelled Turkish proxies from Idlib)
>>198394 Like 10% i guess, the main roads were already done of course. I added mostly alternative routes between villages and towns, roads over mountains and obscure shit that will help understand how and why the fight goes as it goes. Also predictions.
>#Turkish FM: "Idlib [region] is a safe place for terrorist groups [al-Qaeda and #HTS] and this is the responsibility of Assad and of those countries [#Russia and #Iran?] that support the regime".
>>198399 much better ty, it seemed to unclog itself on its own. missed my ENT appointment and didn't bother to reschedule since it fixed itself. guess it was just some random winter fuckery.
>>198406 >thyroiditis you sure that's the proper term? cause illnesses of thyroid don't usually have throat repercussions but instead heavy hormonal changes (like chronic tiredness, hyperactivity, rapid weight gain, rapid weight loss etc) btw could you describe the symptoms you have right now?
>>198407 that's what my doc said. can be caused by variety of reasons. symptoms just generally painful throat/heartburn. omeprazole and nexium didn't help, so not acid reflux. so I think bacterial/fungal infection most likely.
----------------------------------- Syrian Army unleashes heavy attack on jihadist-held Aleppo
BEIRUT, LEBANON (1:45 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has unleashed a heavy attack on the jihadist-held areas of southwest Aleppo, today, after the latter fired artillery shells towards provincial capital.
Using surface-to-surface missiles, the Syrian Arab Army fired a number of these projectiles towards Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham’s positions near the key town of Khan Al-Assad in the southwestern countryside of Aleppo.
>>198408 >omeprazole and nexium didn't help 99% chance it's due to helicobacter pylori btw you wouldn't happen to have had a surgical treatment recently? or be infected with HIV or have received an organ transplant?
>>198410 >99% chance it's due to helicobacter pylori I think so too, but my doc wants me to retest to confirm, but I cbb with this shit anymore. might as well redo the triple/quad therapy since it's what he's gonna prescribe anyway. Did I tell you my doctor is an Arab named Khaled? my ENT was Arab too.
>btw you wouldn't happen to have had a surgical treatment recently? or be infected with HIV or have received an organ transplant? no and nope. had endoscopy months ago and that's about it. oh and guess what? doc who did it he was Arab too. :thinking:
>>198411 > since it's what he's gonna prescribe anyway. not necessarely, if i were you i wouldn't jump the gun and would rather wait for the results and appropriate treatment (just in case it's something else) >had endoscopy are you, may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, a boomer? or just bleeding from colon that caused it? >my doctor is an Arab >my ENT was Arab >doc who did it he was Arab >live in the country with most jews >majority of doctors are arab are the arabs the jews of israel? big think
>>198413 Heh, still better than relying on future experts from pizdiet hoholstan in here, Doc. Oh wait, there will most likely be a civil war soon, so why should I even worry...
>>198412 yeah that's what anesthetics tend to do to you sometimes it's really tempting to use them on yourself too, especially when you're done with a long day of work
>>198413 >not necessarely, if i were you i wouldn't jump the gun I had it enough with giving stool samples. I'm tired of that shit (getit?)
>are you, may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, a boomer? or just bleeding from colon that caused it? kek, no and no. I didn't have colonoscopy where they put shit up yo ass, I had endoscopy where they put a tube in your throat. honest to god didn't even feel anything, the sedation was magnifique.
>are the arabs the jews of israel? big think IKR? they're slowly taking over. Pharmacists are already 90% Arab, rest are Russians. docs either Russian, Ashkenazi, or Arab with the latter exponentially increasing.
>>198415 I can see why. I don't wanna start using it because I'll get addicted for sure.
>>198416 >I had it enough with giving stool samples oh man i imagine you having to shit every once in awhile in a pot to gift to your arab doctor who is asking himself if he made the right choices in life and if you're not pretending just to have an arab analyses your feces to piss him off as an act of anti-palestinian terrorism >I didn't have colonoscopy where they put shit up yo ass you should have precised it, the majority of endoscopies are colonoscopies for the elderly to check if they aren't developing colon cancer
>>198418 > to piss him off as an act of anti-palestinian terrorism kek. nah nurses take the samples then it goes to the lab. docs here don't bother with this shit.
>you should have precised it, the majority of endoscopies are colonoscopies for the elderly to check if they aren't developing colon cancer sorry, my bad. I believe gastroscopy is the actual correct term.
>>198419 >docs here don't bother with this shit. can't blame them, no one wants to do 10+ years of studies to end up handling random people's feces >I believe gastroscopy is the actual correct term. indeed
>>198424 >can't blame them, no one wants to do 10+ years of studies to end up handling random people's feces except proctologists. seriously what kind of people choose to specialize in this.
>>198426 you don't specialize in proctology per se, it's a part of digestive medicine/surgery that mainly focus on rare diseases of the colon (like crohn's disease) and colon/rectum cancers so touching people's feces is a slim part of their everyday lives
>>198393 Makes sense for them to want to get closer to Turkey and NFL again as they are the only possible allies they can get.
With regard to HTS, due to its army, proxies and location, Turkey has a lot of power atm. They could claim a nice reward from Assad/Russia for helping with the clean-up , but they likely will act as opportunistic as usual and see just exactly how and how much they can profit from this situation (e.g. by occupying more territory).
If Turkey finally attacks the Kurds, I think the Turks will wait for ISIS to get BTFO in DeZ (and US to retreat), as they would get a lot of "concern" from US and EU if they attack the Kurds while these are still fighting ISIS. Of course, all the talk and mobilizations from Turkey could also just be a show so they can "compromise" in a deal with either US or Russia and get something in return for not attacking.
If the Kurds have some intelligence, they would close a deal with Assad/Russia/Iran before the US leaves and become an official part of the Syrian government, which Turkey would not attack (at least directly).
>>198474 Other than both political sides shitting on each other and God forbid some retards wil ltry to hit rulling party members which will most likely casue even more shit to stir up and I shit you not, kind of a civil war, nothing will change. As for the guy? He was just a figurehead for all the real estate developers, yeah gave permission for fag parades but they were never really big of a event. Kinda feel bad for guy. If anyhting he had to be stripped of his position and imprisoned for all the supposed money frauds, make example out of him, not a martyr.
>@leventkemaI and I, in collaboration, succeeded to grasp the complexity of presence of armed factions in rebel-held Idlib. Triangulation of social media reports & information provided by rebel factions itself led to this detailed & information-rich map. https://twitter.com/JensHittrien/status/1085097865456828416 nice
>>198554 They will not allow that to happen ofc, NATO is too useful as geopolitical and military tool for US, as they dominate the decision-making. Still, great incentive for EU's CSDP in these eurosceptic times
>>198527 wtf. they have the Chris Kyle skull (The Punisher) on their car? These guys are already kinda edgy but this is even too much for me. >>198551 That is really dope. >>198554 >Trump the biggest libertarian of them all Alright. If Mattis knew this as well; I understand his resdignation and his statement to staying true to allies a lot more than jsut not wanting to give up on the PKK pawns. >US troops better be ready to leave all those Bases to the glorious new Bundeswehr! >>198557 >Turn on TV, check CNN >pic related
Peace talks between Syrian gov’t, Kurds stall over federalization: source
Speaking to Al-Masdar from Damascus, a government source said that both sides are at odds over the SDC’s insistence on federalizing the areas they control in the Al-Hasakah, Al-Raqqa, and Aleppo provinces.
The source said that Damascus is willing to maintain joint control over these SDC-held areas, but they will not accept federalization after the war.
>>198561 They are seperatists; if not now, then in the future they will try to realize their goal of a sovereign kurdsh state. This is a waste of time for Damascus to argue with someone with this mindset. They don't want to be part of Syria. I feel sorry for the non-YPG supporting kurds, the assyrians, armenians, yezidis and arabs that currently are under SDF protection for they will have to suffer for the seperatist element's arrogance. At least this should mean we finally will get some CONTENT soon!
Large US military convoy enters Syria from northwest Iraq: monitor
The U.S. military continued reinforcing its military bases in eastern Syria this week, despite President Donald Trump’s announcement declaring a withdrawal of all armed forces in the country last month.
Hoo boy, if they capture the district center, they'll cut the Maymana-Andkhoy road, and IIRC it's the only remaining road to Maymana that's still under ANDSF control, unless I missed something.
>After the capture of al-Ulay'at neighbourhood, #SDF launched attack from N. & E. axis & managed to capture some parts of palestine neighbourhood. 25% of Susah town under #SDF control
>A week before the Animal (la creatura americano) announced its withdrawal from Syria, the SAA units started to move towards DeZ. >On September 12, a soldier is posting from the DeZ airport: Arrived to a new mission. >Now the unit he belongs is returning back to NW Syria. https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1085292950995775488
>Turkish state run AA details on buffer zone: >- 460 kilometers (285 miles) wide and 32 kilometers (20 miles) deep >- will include north of Raqqa & north Hasakah, north Ayn Issa, Suluk, Ras al-Ayn, Amuda, Qamishli, Wardiyah, Tell Hamis, Al-Qahtaniyah https://twitter.com/WashingtonPoint/status/1085280105675538433 J U S T
>The battle against #ISIS continue tonight in #DeirEzzor #Syria near #AlSusah (the town is not under #SDF yet ...) and tomorrow will be the start of the assault to crush #Daesh terrorists who are entrenched in their tunnels with every house being filled with IED https://twitter.com/VolunteerReport/status/1085336403616165889 Fresh video showing heavy bombing and SDF technical firing at Susah from the cliff overlooking it, probably at Hawi al-Susah. Goddamn, that town must be hell on earth right now.
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1085381075675897856 Blyatskis in the desert? Looks like Homs/DeZ desert. Based on this and the SAA that was KIA near Sukhnah a couple of days ago, my guess is there's a proper sweeping operation going on.
>>198697 >Syrian army? >ISIS pocket in common border? hmm, that doesn't make sense. I wonder if they are referring to those "insurgency pockets" in the DeZ / Homs desert, or the pocket that formally included Hajin?
>Photos of the ISIS Hunters showed the group near the front-lines in the Badiya Al-Sham region of Deir Ezzor and Homs >With the Syrian Arab Army gearing up for a new offensive in the Badiya Al-Sham region, the ISIS Hunters will once again be called on to assist in operations against the Islamic State in this vast desert region
Soldier 15 Hours Ago - Forget the Eagles of Qasioun The Eagles of the airforce are heading to Qalaat AlMudiq The Tiger has come for you green Idlib - Hood of truck says Special Operations Eagles of the Airforce Men of the Tiger https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/1085563759068958720
Developing: Massive Hashd Al-Shaabi force mobilizes with Syrian Army for new offensive
BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:00 P.M.) – A massive force from Iraq’s Hashd Al-Sha’abi (var. Popular Mobilization Units) has mobilized along the Anbar-Deir Ezzor border for a new offensive against the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh) terror group, a source from the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) told Al-Masdar News on Wednesday.
According to the source, a Hashd Al-Sha’abi force of approximately 10,000 fighters is deployed along the Anbar-Deir Ezzor border; they are waiting for the Syrian Arab Army to start their new offensive against the Islamic State in this region.
>>198716 >heading to Qalaat AlMudiq Huh, didn't see that coming... Launching an offensive from Suqaylabiyah/Kernaz would match the report that an Russian/artillery base has been established in Salba. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.335923&lon=36.445041&z=15&m=bs&show=/25663349/Salba To me it implies that they intend on capturing al-Zawiyah mountains before the Ghab plain and thus cutting off Jisr al-Shughour from the M-4 highway without repeating the mistake of fumbling around in the Ghab valley and getting ATGM'd from the mountains. Exciting!
#BREAKING: #ISIS conducts a huge attack against #SDF in #Hajin & #Sousa in #Syria :flag_sy: & the Popular Mobilization Forces #Hashd (#PMF) raises alert at the border of #Iraq
>>198739 the replies from Democrats to that tweet he mentions afterward..
>All the fault of the @realDonaldTrump administration! >@realDonaldTrump YOU are to blame for the Manbij attack. RESIGN!!! You are a disgrace to everything the USA stands for.
> be Trump, gtfo Syria cause muh Benghazi > they kill 4 'Muricans just when you say your leaving > inb4 it's your fault
>A Free Syrian Army (FSA) military commander has returned from Jordan to reconcile with the Syrian government and join forces with the Syrian Arab Army (SAA). According to a source in Damascus, the commander of Jaysh Al-Yarmouk, Imad Abu Rizk, returned to Daraa, yesterday, where he signed a reconciliation pact with the government and vowed to fight in the Syrian Arab Army’s ranks. Abu Rizk previously fled to Jordan during the Syrian Arab Army’s large-scale offensive in the Daraa Governorate this past Summer. However, through back channels and relatives, Abu Rizk was able to negotiate a settlement with the Syrian government and return home. The Syrian government is reportedly reconciling with the fighters of Jaysh Al-Yarmouk in a bid to allow them to return to Daraa and handle the security around their former areas of influence. >The Yarmouk Army (Arabic: جيش اليرموك; transliteration: Jaysh al-Yarmouk), originally known as the Yarmouk Brigade,[11] is a prominent FSA rebel group operating in the Quneitra and Daraa governorates.[12] The group is one of the units that has received BGM-71 TOW missiles.[3] It joined the Southern Front on 14 February 2014[13] and the Hawks of the South coalition on 27 December 2014.[14] >In January 2016, the United Sham Front joined the group.[15]
SDF caught an Ethiopian kneegrow named Mohammed Abdullah Mohammed, alias Abu Ridwan al-Kanadi and armchair analysts on twitter are saying he's the person who narrated Flames of War II and gave a speech before executing POWs in Flames of War I. Here's an interview: https://twitter.com/Afarin_Mamosta/status/1085648018609647616 In the third part he claims the ISIS fighters numbers in the Susah pocket are still in the thousands and many of them are trying to leave with smugglers.
>>198776 Purely coincidental and i think this isn't PMU. Good to hear they are prepared though, since there's supposedly thousand(s) of ISIS left, a counterattack like the one in october.
>>198784 Not a counterattack Snus, a zerg rush. >Feb 2018 >ISIS is cut off by SAA near Abu Dhuhur >takes over entire pocket they shared with FSA/AQ >SAA start squeezing in >ISIS launches an all-out attack with every soldier they have >burst through SAA lines with heavy casualties on both sides >reach Idlibstan >attempt to reestablish pocket >get btfo and surrender to AQ
Iraqis are keeping their forces on the border to keep ISIS from zerg-rushing the SDF at Baghuz Fawqani, bursting through to the Iraqi border, bursting into Iraq itself, and disappearing into the desert to become a thorn in Iraq's side for years.
>>198788 >burst through SAA lines with heavy casualties on both sides The burst already near Idlib region waws solely to surrender to FSA groups instead of SAA. Y'know that right? They didn't fight after that breakthrough but instantly threw down arms; and I don't blame them, (unless you are trying to refrence the initial breakthrough to FSA region over the Highway). And tbqh ISIS soldiers would much rather surrender to SDf than Iraqis since the Iraqis are working overtime executing ISIS suspects, while the SDf has to constantly tell the west to do something about all the prisoners they now have.
>>198790 They did initially fight after that breakthrough and tried to expand their pocket once they reached Idlibstan (see gif), until AQ brought in reinforcements and btfo them. Then ISIS surrendered after a battle between them and AQ. >rather surrender to SDF than Iraqis Hans, where did I say anything about surrendering in that post you replied to?
>>198792 and one sole poster has near half of those posts as due credit to him >This is getting to Lanka anime shitpost levels >>198795 Did HTS claim executing dozens of ISIS soldiers though and not a differnt group? (I honestly don't properly recall)
>>198801 I've been posting updates over the course of 9 bloody days, what do you expect? Stop seething and appreciate my effort to keep this shit alive or post the updates yourself. /pol/ is still on the 4chan domain
>>198808 is it a coping mechanism perhaps only, that holds no intrinsic hostility torward whoever gets adressed? >plus it's fun/easy to make fun of you (especially your predictions)
>>198815 You do seem to have a disorder or two, so its possible. >it's fun/easy to make fun of you >t. person who perceive observation posts as fully fledged military bases capable of launching meaningful offensives whilst completely isolated
>ISIS Hunters Hmm what's that dark shit in the background? I'm thinking it could be the bed of a seasonal river in the Homs/DeZ desert (judging from satellite imagery the riverbeds tend to be almost black with what i guess is vegetation sometimes, see pic). Any idea?
https://tomwoods.com/ep-1309-the-syria-withdrawal-three-cheers/ Interview of Scott Horton by Tom Woods. This guy knows his stuff. He presents damning evidence of the U.S. involvement in Syria and stresses on the need to leave now, debunking all the hawks' objections in the process.
He also exposes the hypocrisy of the liberal elite and the (((Israel lobby))). I was going to share the audio directly but at an hour long it timed out.
Breaking: Turkish warplanes spotted over western Aleppo, northern Idlib
BEIRUT, LEBANON (3:30 P.M.) – Turkish warplanes were spotted over western Aleppo and northern Idlib, today, prompting the Syrian military to raise their combat alert levels, a source told Al-Masdar News this afternoon.
According to the military source, at least three Turkish warplanes were seen conducting low altitude flights over western Aleppo and northern Idlib.
>The SAA thwarted an infiltration attempt south of Palmyra by a terrorist group attempting to infiltrate SAA positions from the direction of the US-established 55-km security zone. 1 technical destroyed, weapons captured, and the attackers were eliminated. https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1085907131142942720
>>198860 >Correction: The terror gang actually entered a minefield laid by the SAA, which led to the destruction of the technical and two dead terrorists. The SAA later recovered the corpses and some weapons.
>>198871 noice >>198872 >Tigger man talk about Qalaat muh dik >K*rdos being split about whether to submit their anus to watermelon man or telling NATO to fuck off >Susah almost captured, 3 villages left Anything else?
>>198876 Yeah, that's pretty good, but also >NLF BTFO by HTS >America still doing the hokey pokey >Turkey making attempts to get HTS on their side with moderate success.
>>198877 >Turkey making attempts to get HTS on their side with moderate success Hmm? The arrests of HTS members in T*rkey doesn't tell this narrative, even if was only a media stunt. Did i miss something?
>>198882 I was just going off memory. Wasn't there some big things about Turkey trying to woe HTS / show off the fact that HTS supported their planned offensive against the Kurds / still maintained pressure on the SAR not to attack Idlib?
>>198883 >Turkey trying to woe HTS What was it, the foreign minister who said Russia, Iran and Syria has responsibility for Idlib or some shit? Sounded like an invite for an offensive to me. >show off the fact that HTS supported their planned offensive against the Kurds That was simply Jolani licking T*rkish ass if anything. It's not like the t*rks paraded the fact around. >still maintained pressure on the SAR not to attack Idlib? See first response, i haven't heard anything else. We'll see after the ErdoPutin meeting on wednesday the 23rd.