Well, i won't screech like a retard about it, but that is the exact opposite of my view. I'll support Trump for the sake of pissing people off, but I sure don't like the intervention in Syria.
>>157 pls tell me this is bait, you can't seriously be in favor of the NWO and how trump finally gave in to them. not when you really went to /pol/ that is.
the NWO is flooding our countries with western culture killing and race replacing shit, it ain't russia.
>>846 I'm a democratically designated professional technico-political expert, so trust me, even if this could fail in the human world - which is irrelevant since humans are difficult to reason - it is the best system to globalize the pony world onwards social progress and equality all ponies are carving for. >>831 A good leader, today has the role to respond fast and act spontaneously, in order to keep the enemy in the fear of any form of repression. >>832 Yes, it's important to have a world police. The EU have a solid position too. Mr Trump will rethink his place among the NATO, and the role of America in the world the same way his predecessor did. And so on. Here, the federal republic of Industria has the role to ensure and preserve, and lead the world on the path of freedom and progressivism.
Nothing is supposed to change, you must accept this, Anonymous. It will be better for you if you just accepted the greater good. >>850 Technostate? I don't know this term yet but I should use it as key elements of communication.
>>586 in this society, media and education are the same, it's mixed to ensure ponies gets formatted, all equal on the same habits, take no decision, are kept ain ignorance away from book; art or any mean of culture, reserved for the higher class. the rest is an administrative, bureaucratic clusterfuck to do anything, and Lorelei is really maniacal about getting everything perfectly ordered.
there's control everywhere, citizens are allowed no privacy -and a lot of gloomier stuff- but since everything is free, no one really dares to complain. instead the ponies there are told to check their privileges and be happy to work all day and have an apartment, and TV; and security, and no kids at their charge etc.
however there's unicorns still have this and operate underground to share knowledge about alternative medicine, magic stuff, plants, hacking, literature and other stuff forbidden by the regime.
>>1370 From what I know Industria is a socialist technocracy, a weird mashup that's both a megacorp and a state that develops like the E.U, expanding to other countries. I'd dump some green about Industria stories, there's a few but like I said several times this story got a huge potential, from Orwell, Heidegger, etc. It calls itself a democracy but only selected ponies are allowed to vote, the others must fill in documents and procedure that never works.
Finally, the ponies, zebras, foals and fillies all are the ownership of the government.
>>157 I am personally against intervention in Syria. We are doing the work of Saudi Arabia, Israel, and whoever else we want to call "allies" in that region.
If we're going to bomb anybody, I would say we bomb the whole damn Middle East, and then sign a trade deal giving the whole glass pasture to China in exchange for access to oil.
It would solve all of our problems in the region simultaneously.
>>1530 Lorelei was created by darkdoomer. maybe you know him more as patachu since he's french, he suffers the restrict rules of europe, and any country that's unified with the EU. he decided to make a pony OC representing all those evils, and a story to fit in. it's pretty cool
>>1378 > a megacorp and a state that develops like the E.U The social control aspect is familiar, but I've never heard of a political ideology or a type of government that fits this model. Is this how ancaps would end up? With the biggest corporation supplanting the state?
>>1578 Dunno but that's one intresting concept, regarding the power of the banks and lobbies in the EU, and well the irony is that was the core concept of nazi Germany. The idea that a state seizes the children to educate and raise them is very national-socialist, but especially socialist. The media and education being under one unique ministry that defines the reality ponies are seeing.
It's different from 1984 altough the government is similar, but with ponies, the contrast is really about
- industria: technology, socialism, progress, expansion of their ideology and territory, f2ake democracy.
>>1578 the big idea was really to push the NWO concept in averagely worst scenarios, imagining how a globalized socialist ideology would succeed, and rule a society on every aspects, but not like communism, more like an ultraliberal technocracy.
all that as a role to manipulate ponies to the point they forgot themselves they are ponies or zebras or pegasus, unicorns. the egalitarianism on everything and -not always accurate- scientific definitions on all aspects of things acts as a part of the dumbing-down, but later i should write how and why ponies are tempted to look for something else. also, Unicorns were the settlers of the continent and almost built the base of everything before being massacred by ponies and zebras for being accused of inequality. a genocide that's been simply erased from history books, just like the hundreds of millions humans who died under communism. i'll get back to it, but later~
>>1974 Just to clarify, by "to some degree" I mean that we might be unable to go into the future without some dystopian policies or ways of life becoming reality, specially with orwellian monstrousities like google.
>>1817 I'm back. Here's the story > industria is 100 years old, but they say they have been existed since celestia and luna became rulers > lorelei is a "choosen one", believing she is destined to rule the world, when in reality she was "educated" just to follow the founder's original desires > while unicorns and pegasi are allowed, they must go under clinical surgery to remove their extra limbs (horns and wings) because on industria proclaims that magic is dangerous and flying is an act of indicency > the place is surrounded by 4 big walls, and inside there's no form of nature. Everything is cold steel and concrete > the people lives in social ladders, going from the workers (the lowest), to the official (low), next to security (medium), after the especialists (high), to finally the council (the highest, formed by 3 ponies. Lorelei is one) > there's entertaiment: tv, videogames, internet, nutritive paste, and special onaholes. But there's no form of actual art. Everything is made to comply with the overseer's plan to keep the poblation stupid and scared > while they call themselves a democracy, it's actually a dictadorship where poblation actually votes, but it's importance is little to nothing > they don't use bits, they use credits
>>2165 > while capitalism doesn't exist per se, they have the disease of a bad capitalist economy: most of the city survives barely over the poverty line, while a very small elite takes everything. There's an abandoned sector in industria where CEOs and criminal make every act forbiden inside and outside of industria >families are a privilege for the richest ponies. most kids are taken care by the state >the rooms are very minimalistic: only a bed for one/two persons, a tv, a bathroom. no kitchen because a special paste is delivered each times a day >the onaholes have a purpose: they are connected to a giant lab where the weakest sperm is thrown away, while the best one is being kept and modified genetically to breed the best next generation possible
>>2168 an earth pony was tired of seeing that good stuff was always reserved for unicorns and pegasi (flying and magic), so he used his brains to make sometime for himself after that, he realized that a normal pony could do more than a pegasus or an unicorn by using his brains the nature changed from scenery to resource, the life of a pony to a capable number, and enjoyments of life were turned like only mere distractions. this life started to damage the psychosis of some ponies, so this one pony (we'll call him Boss) decided, quite angry, to give them entertainment. this is when Boss discovered a new barrier of social reachment: entertaintment. he knew as long as the working class was kept entertained and happy, they wouldn't fight, so he started to brainwash other ponies through entertaintment
>>2169 after a while, Boss noticed that the working class started to complain about their achivements: some ponies were better in other aspects that others he saw the abilities of these ponies, so he started to organize them in social ladders. when he was done, he discovered his second victory: ego he saw how the highers ladders were happy to be on the top, so they just did anything that boss said without questioning. and he saw the lower ladders didn't care about fighting because they were entertained and happy. he pulled the strings correctly, and knew his fate very well: the ponies were his puppets, and he the puppeter. the small country called industria started to grow and expand. unicorns and pegasi were bullied and looked down, being called freaks, and due to their extra limbs, monsters. for their need of acknowlegde, Boss told them that if they gave up their magic and flying skills, they would earn the respect that any "normal pony" had. they accepted, making the country bigger. after that, magic was forbidden, flying was an act of indescency, and alicorns were targeted as worldwide threats
as these words were said, the higher ponies feared of losing their status, so they started to pass the fear to the lower social classes Boss saw how this false sense of danger started to attract more ponies, so he started to control the media to bring fear, and say that industria was the only place safe. the country grew more, as the power of boss. he saw how everything was perfect to be used to obtain more power that even an alicorn can't imagine, but he saw how time took a tool on his life. his legacy was too big to be forgotten, so he choose a succesor. but no anyone. an specific pony, raised to be the heir of his twisted desire of power. the first Boss passed away, and the second took his place. with the knowledge of the first Boss, the second Boss started to investigate how to extend not only his power, but his life as well. Boss through Boss, they were falling, outliving the old succesors in each dinasty the country grew big and healthier, the walls and weaponry that protects the city is evidence of their fear and lust of power. the control of life was passed to only one pony, for the small comfort of safety.
>>2171 now, the new Boss is Lorelei Kernav. a mare with a dream more bigger of the original Boss: not control Equestria, but the entire world under her hoof
4/4 done damn, i have to go to the meta thread. we need an advice when we cross the character limit
>>2165 >>2168 >>2169 >>2170 >>2171 >>2172 So the "boss" learned about and implemented all the brave new world shenanigans as the country developed? It honestly sounds a bit silly how the whole thing developed so relatively spontaneously.
>>2296 well, evryone would love to be mature adults, and talk it out. then again, we are talking about US and Syria. the western and middle east never had a neutral point
>>1578 >With the biggest corporation supplanting the state? Aren't a few corporations and royal families already jockeying for total control of most states? Are you asking if absolutely every conceivable method of struggling against a situation that almost everyone agrees is the case (we just argue whether or not the situation is a desirable thing) won't just bring about the same situation eventually? Your phrasing seems chosen to suggest an inevitability, rather than allowing for the question of what is best. The enjoy it or not, just "lie back and think of England," attitude, eh?
>>161 >you can't seriously be in favor of the NWO and how trump finally gave in to them. >the NWO is flooding our countries with western culture killing and race replacing shit, it ain't russia. >A finally gave in to B >X is doing Z, it ain't Y doing it. >"Remember Citizen, it is treason to suggest that there is no Anti-Pentagon" (Any fans of banned Soviet literature in the house?)
Both OP and you are talking like you've never even suspected that "both sides" are always dancing on the same puppet strings. Isn't that the simplest explanation for why, no matter which option we chose, we end up with the same results; why bitter enemies always have the exact same plans; why the non-partisan group overseeing US Presidential election campaigns ragequit decades ago making noises about illegal bipartisan conspiracy to exclude competitors; why every demagogue who rails against the current system always ends up directing their followers against another group raging against the system, instead of the people in charge of it?
It is like no pony even reads the Lynch Letters anymore…
>>2330 >the lynch letters sorry if i didn't read it anon. here in the south is hard to get that kind of content. let alone while having 40 or so years of publication
Welcome to your life, there's no turning back, Even while we sleep, We will find you, Acting on your best behavior Turn your back on mother nature Everypony wants to rule the world.
It's my own desire, it's my own remorse. Help me to decide. Help me make the most of freedom and of magic Nothing ever lasts forever Everypony wants to rule the world.
There's a room where the light won't find you Holding hooves while the walls come tumbling down When they do, I'll be right behind you So glad we've almost made it So sad they had to fade it Everypony wants to rule the world.
I can't stand this indecision, married with a lack of vision Everypony wants to rule the world
Say that you'll never, never, never, never need it One headline, why not believe it? Everypony wants to rule the world.
All for freedom and for pleasure Nothing ever lasts forever I'm this pony who want to rule the world.
GG! You made me get more info about this pony anon, and I fuck'n love the big idea behind this form of cucked dictatorship. I mean, that's the fucking world that's being built, with the WTO, IOT, mass surveillance.
So the European Union's future. Ponies live with nature, traditions, individualism and magic in Equestria. zebra and ponies who live in Industria are blinded by technology and a sterile society, playing on fears and obeying stupid rules. (right?)
Corporate Socialism, a mix of the power of the banks and the goverenment already exist
I'm going to lay this down here, as a Canadian. It's not the global stage where shit is absolutely abhorrent right now. It's the individuals. They aren't getting heard. Watch this vid (I threw it at it's relevant point, it's about 5 minutes but you'll see)
>>159 The only policing action I really support is getting rid of Kim Jong-un. Those fuckers are crazy and may actually use a nuke if they ever got the chance.
>>4620 And I think that's the message of this story and universe, they aim to destroy the individual and throw it into an uniform mass that's easier to control. It's just a shame I find this on a pony cartoon and not on some book or something.
>>1537 Patachu always be the kind of /pol/itically incorrect guy, crazy but with common sense. also most furries hate him, and he even got banned from 4chan for triggering SJWs, who tried to get him raided last year, with little to no success.
(On the ground of drawing lolishota/furry is illegal in France, no kidding!)
1984 was about a dictatorship, communism and lies of regimes, Anonymous in Industria has similarities and differences. This one is a bit closer to the actual new world order going on. Kernav is a bit like Big Brother, but that's counting all the ponies in control behind her, sadly the history is badly written.
>>5675 >most urries hate him that can e track since the day he was commisioned to draw guro of the main FA admin >he got banned for triggering SJWs he always got banned for tons of reasons. sadly, they won this time by making it permanent. and since france has only one internet service, he'll have to move out to comeback
>>6723 I would but I'd rather see something from Patachu first on this one, seeing how he wants to set his universe, I think he knows pretty much where he's going.
>>6774 i know it's just it leave us in a cliffhanger last time. i mean, dt is outside, nyx is becoming more like a bio-weapon as a cultist for a secret sect, and silver spoon managed to contact her friend. i want to know how keeps going
>>6777 okay i'll try and dump whatever i have in mind, anyways it is when i write i get new fresh ideas, just like when we draw or do something. Also i'm not sure if i should continue on this line of story, was thinking of making it more moody and complex, like being a fugitive, or a prisoneer of a state that tries to force you to format to its rules, it's a bit the idea of being redpilled, or kind of becoming Anonymous; hence the final title, Anonymous in Industria. maybe later but there's a few stuff i'm working on that arent related to pones, also, lost my tripcode. but that's secondary, heheh
>>5777 pretty much this, but i think i still should try and arrange things just to9 lurk into /mlp/draw threads and keep in touch with guys i know there.
furaff was kind of different, it was more a joke ban. i planned to leave furaff anyways and have more time for myself.
>>5701 >>5704 >>5705 >>5706 These are artworks, models or 3d compos from an artist called Nicolas Moulin, and that totally get me in the mood of making a world in a postcommunist world like this. you know, here in France there are cities with nothing but large buildings that completely eclipse the sunlight, not an ounce of grass around, only concrete, and distant smoke from factories. large empty roads, etc. it's rather an ambiance that's really supposed to be murky, and trying to put that on a sheet of paper is all some kind of job, i don't even know which medium/techniques i'm gonna use yet.
>>5786 >>6512 first heard that tune in Mr Robot, and I dig it too. So yea, their national anthem is a repetitive, synchronized synthwave beat.
>>6843 >>6846 i can say without a doubt that you really love this world, even when it's a manifestation of the reality you hate this is going to become your greatest job yet. also, i can understand if you choose the "anon/prisoner in industria" road. i mean, diamond comes back home, she talks the shit she lived, she gets a shrink to cop wit it, and celestia and luna will try to get or eliminate nyx by sending a scout or our favourite green human to hell, and pray for success
Suggestion: make a group pic of all the leaders of pony nations. Celestia, Luna, Chrysalis, Aryanne, Kernav, Cadence, LePone, Veronika, Duke of Maretonia, etc.
>>10685 and how will be the country limitations? we know celestia's turf looks like the US, candy is up north, and chrysalis lives probably in the badlands in the south. griffons are crossing the river, and dragons are mostly near volcans industria and germaneigh would be beyond east
>>12571 The changelings come from more in the south but they have no sea to cross. Griffons have a whole lot more to cross and come around but they're still closer, still you're surprisingly well informed. as the borders they are not always really well determined. But let's check the geopolitical context to really get the story. *Map not in proportions.
>>12670 >left i can see that's where zebras are. shame they have tartarus and dragons close, but now with ember they can be great allies >center ponies: the continent. also, nice one in the north division with the other races >lemuria >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWr0Qwd9fDg need to say more? >hoviet union turf great, but: >kolechia >no arstotska DENIED! NEXT! >industria while i know what stand have industria, i feel like i need to know about the other states. i mean, i'm more amazed industria left another states inside their domains, and not conquer them. also, didn't expect them to have sea so close >the jungle turf there must be zebras, but i wonder what's the difference between a savannah zebra, and a jungle zebra
>>12670 Wow. The Changeling empire is spreading more on direction of Borduria and Equestria than it is heading to the soviet, industrialized countries on the southeast. I guess Licornia will be no more in the years to come if it continue, or does Equestria manages to contain the changeling expansion?