I will not support Donald Trump, but I salute the comeback of American interventionism and the return to normality of global relationships, to fight against the toxic influence of Vladimir Putin and Russia.
This world still needs an order and Mr Trump still have a lot to learn who is in charge.
I did not expect to see a Lorelei thread here this soon.
America: World Police is something you actually want?
Well, i won't screech like a retard about it, but that is the exact opposite of my view. I'll support Trump for the sake of pissing people off, but I sure don't like the intervention in Syria.
>>157pls tell me this is bait, you can't seriously be in favor of the NWO and how trump finally gave in to them. not when you really went to /pol/ that is.
the NWO is flooding our countries with western culture killing and race replacing shit, it ain't russia.
>>161not so sure about that Myself but from what i know Op's pony is related to a social marxist Techno State.
>>846
I'm a democratically designated professional technico-political expert, so trust me, even if this could fail in the human world - which is irrelevant since humans are difficult to reason - it is the best system to globalize the pony world onwards social progress and equality all ponies are carving for.
>>831
A good leader, today has the role to respond fast and act spontaneously, in order to keep the enemy in the fear of any form of repression.
>>832
Yes, it's important to have a world police. The EU have a solid position too. Mr Trump will rethink his place among the NATO, and the role of America in the world the same way his predecessor did. And so on. Here, the federal republic of Industria has the role to ensure and preserve, and lead the world on the path of freedom and progressivism.
Nothing is supposed to change, you must accept this, Anonymous. It will be better for you if you just accepted the greater good.
>>850
Technostate? I don't know this term yet but I should use it as key elements of communication.
Please Darkdoomer, draw us a Marine Le Pone!
>>239Anything that tells you that it's inevitable and to just accept it tends to be the work of evil, trying to convince good men to do nothing.
>>306wonder if anyone made any Warhammer Art of her yet.
>>320well, that's the idea behind the pony.
scaring, making more stupid, or brainwashing her country to do what she wants
>>306>>322okay, madame Marine Le Pone, president of the Republic of Prance.
>>586in this society, media and education are the same, it's mixed to ensure ponies gets formatted, all equal on the same habits, take no decision, are kept ain ignorance away from book; art or any mean of culture, reserved for the higher class. the rest is an administrative, bureaucratic clusterfuck to do anything, and Lorelei is really maniacal about getting everything perfectly ordered.
there's control everywhere, citizens are allowed no privacy -and a lot of gloomier stuff- but since everything is free, no one really dares to complain. instead the ponies there are told to check their privileges and be happy to work all day and have an apartment, and TV; and security, and no kids at their charge etc.
however there's unicorns still have this and operate underground to share knowledge about alternative medicine, magic stuff, plants, hacking, literature and other stuff forbidden by the regime.
>>1325Oh my god, I already love /mlpol/ more than I ever loved anything on 4chan.
>>1333>>1335There's something almost aluring in this pony's cold glare.
>>1333So is Industria a commie utopia, or something else? What memeball would you use to represent it?
>>1370From what I know Industria is a socialist technocracy, a weird mashup that's both a megacorp and a state that develops like the E.U, expanding to other countries.
I'd dump some green about Industria stories, there's a few but like I said several times this story got a huge potential, from Orwell, Heidegger, etc. It calls itself a democracy but only selected ponies are allowed to vote, the others must fill in documents and procedure that never works.
Finally, the ponies, zebras, foals and fillies all are the ownership of the government.
>>1370closest thing to an industria memeball.
Also that's their flag, the world inside a gear.
Just imagine if she appears in a IDW comic… Too bad they are no longer allowed to use others' OC.
>>1473>Industria in a IDW comicI wonder how much people will be interested in 1984 with ponies
>Enter thread expecting flames>Pleasantly surprised>>157I am personally against intervention in Syria. We are doing the work of Saudi Arabia, Israel, and whoever else we want to call "allies" in that region.
If we're going to bomb anybody, I would say we bomb the whole damn Middle East, and then sign a trade deal giving the whole glass pasture to China in exchange for access to oil.
It would solve all of our problems in the region simultaneously.
>>1527Also, I'm digging this "Lorelei" character. Where's she from?
>>1530Lorelei was created by darkdoomer. maybe you know him more as patachu
since he's french, he suffers the restrict rules of europe, and any country that's unified with the EU.
he decided to make a pony OC representing all those evils, and a story to fit in.
it's pretty cool
>>1537Yep the concept is solid, and doesn't fall in the stereotypes, also
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/343510/the-last-dawn >>1378> a megacorp and a state that develops like the E.UThe social control aspect is familiar, but I've never heard of a political ideology or a type of government that fits this model. Is this how ancaps would end up? With the biggest corporation supplanting the state?
>>1578Dunno but that's one intresting concept, regarding the power of the banks and lobbies in the EU, and well the irony is that was the core concept of nazi Germany.
The idea that a state seizes the children to educate and raise them is very national-socialist, but especially socialist.
The media and education being under one unique ministry that defines the reality ponies are seeing.
It's different from 1984 altough the government is similar, but with ponies, the contrast is really about
- industria: technology, socialism, progress, expansion of their ideology and territory, f2ake democracy.
- equestria: magic, culture, friendship, traditions, secularism. true, benevolent monarchy.
that's the biggest aspect of this universe so far, to me.
>>1578the big idea was really to push the NWO concept in averagely worst scenarios, imagining how a globalized socialist ideology would succeed, and rule a society on every aspects, but not like communism, more like an ultraliberal technocracy.
all that as a role to manipulate ponies to the point they forgot themselves they are ponies or zebras or pegasus, unicorns. the egalitarianism on everything and -not always accurate- scientific definitions on all aspects of things acts as a part of the dumbing-down, but later i should write how and why ponies are tempted to look for something else.
also, Unicorns were the settlers of the continent and almost built the base of everything before being massacred by ponies and zebras for being accused of inequality. a genocide that's been simply erased from history books, just like the hundreds of millions humans who died under communism. i'll get back to it, but later~
>>1595I see. That's a clever way to expose the EU's jewry and how it is doomed to become a dictatorship. Keep it up!
You gonna write more chapters for this story?
>industria thread
Neato. When i comeback to home, i'll post the basic idea of what was made in /mlp/
>>1595Gosh, dystopian stuff has always been quite spooky for me, I honestly fear that we might be unable to escape a dystopian future to some degree.
>>1974Just to clarify, by "to some degree" I mean that we might be unable to go into the future without some dystopian policies or ways of life becoming reality, specially with orwellian monstrousities like google.
>>1817I'm back. Here's the story
> industria is 100 years old, but they say they have been existed since celestia and luna became rulers> lorelei is a "choosen one", believing she is destined to rule the world, when in reality she was "educated" just to follow the founder's original desires> while unicorns and pegasi are allowed, they must go under clinical surgery to remove their extra limbs (horns and wings) because on industria proclaims that magic is dangerous and flying is an act of indicency> the place is surrounded by 4 big walls, and inside there's no form of nature. Everything is cold steel and concrete> the people lives in social ladders, going from the workers (the lowest), to the official (low), next to security (medium), after the especialists (high), to finally the council (the highest, formed by 3 ponies. Lorelei is one)> there's entertaiment: tv, videogames, internet, nutritive paste, and special onaholes. But there's no form of actual art. Everything is made to comply with the overseer's plan to keep the poblation stupid and scared> while they call themselves a democracy, it's actually a dictadorship where poblation actually votes, but it's importance is little to nothing> they don't use bits, they use credits1/2
>>2165> while capitalism doesn't exist per se, they have the disease of a bad capitalist economy: most of the city survives barely over the poverty line, while a very small elite takes everything. There's an abandoned sector in industria where CEOs and criminal make every act forbiden inside and outside of industria>families are a privilege for the richest ponies. most kids are taken care by the state>the rooms are very minimalistic: only a bed for one/two persons, a tv, a bathroom. no kitchen because a special paste is delivered each times a day>the onaholes have a purpose: they are connected to a giant lab where the weakest sperm is thrown away, while the best one is being kept and modified genetically to breed the best next generation possible2/2
now industria's "history"
>>2168an earth pony was tired of seeing that good stuff was always reserved for unicorns and pegasi (flying and magic), so he used his brains to make sometime for himself
after that, he realized that a normal pony could do more than a pegasus or an unicorn by using his brains
the nature changed from scenery to resource, the life of a pony to a capable number, and enjoyments of life were turned like only mere distractions.
this life started to damage the psychosis of some ponies, so this one pony (we'll call him Boss) decided, quite angry, to give them entertainment.
this is when Boss discovered a new barrier of social reachment: entertaintment.
he knew as long as the working class was kept entertained and happy, they wouldn't fight, so he started to brainwash other ponies through entertaintment
1/4
>>2169after a while, Boss noticed that the working class started to complain about their achivements: some ponies were better in other aspects that others
he saw the abilities of these ponies, so he started to organize them in social ladders.
when he was done, he discovered his second victory: ego
he saw how the highers ladders were happy to be on the top, so they just did anything that boss said without questioning. and he saw the lower ladders didn't care about fighting because they were entertained and happy.
he pulled the strings correctly, and knew his fate very well: the ponies were his puppets, and he the puppeter.
the small country called industria started to grow and expand. unicorns and pegasi were bullied and looked down, being called freaks, and due to their extra limbs, monsters.
for their need of acknowlegde, Boss told them that if they gave up their magic and flying skills, they would earn the respect that any "normal pony" had.
they accepted, making the country bigger.
after that, magic was forbidden, flying was an act of indescency, and alicorns were targeted as worldwide threats
2/4
as these words were said, the higher ponies feared of losing their status, so they started to pass the fear to the lower social classes
Boss saw how this false sense of danger started to attract more ponies, so he started to control the media to bring fear, and say that industria was the only place safe.
the country grew more, as the power of boss.
he saw how everything was perfect to be used to obtain more power that even an alicorn can't imagine, but he saw how time took a tool on his life.
his legacy was too big to be forgotten, so he choose a succesor. but no anyone. an specific pony, raised to be the heir of his twisted desire of power.
the first Boss passed away, and the second took his place.
with the knowledge of the first Boss, the second Boss started to investigate how to extend not only his power, but his life as well.
Boss through Boss, they were falling, outliving the old succesors in each dinasty
the country grew big and healthier, the walls and weaponry that protects the city is evidence of their fear and lust of power. the control of life was passed to only one pony, for the small comfort of safety.
3/4
>>2171now, the new Boss is Lorelei Kernav. a mare with a dream more bigger of the original Boss: not control Equestria, but the entire world under her hoof
4/4
done
damn, i have to go to the meta thread. we need an advice when we cross the character limit >>2165>>2168>>2169>>2170>>2171>>2172So the "boss" learned about and implemented all the brave new world shenanigans as the country developed? It honestly sounds a bit silly how the whole thing developed so relatively spontaneously.
>>2194as far as i think it happened, he must have use unicorns (as stated in
>>1595) who then were eliminated because "they knew too much"
>>2249I wonder how much death was involved in the process, I would probably be a coward and keep my head down if it mean't staying alive.
>>157I support Trump and Assad. I hope they can work things out. I guess I'm just an idealist at heart.
>>2296well, evryone would love to be mature adults, and talk it out.
then again, we are talking about US and Syria. the western and middle east never had a neutral point
>>1578>With the biggest corporation supplanting the state?Aren't a few corporations and royal families already jockeying for total control of most states?
Are you asking if absolutely every conceivable method of struggling against a situation that almost everyone agrees is the case (we just argue whether or not the situation is a desirable thing) won't just bring about the same situation eventually? Your phrasing seems chosen to suggest an inevitability, rather than allowing for the question of what is best.
The enjoy it or not, just "lie back and think of England," attitude, eh?
Heh, I made a horse-pun.
>>161>you can't seriously be in favor of the NWO and how trump finally gave in to them.>the NWO is flooding our countries with western culture killing and race replacing shit, it ain't russia.>A finally gave in to B>X is doing Z, it ain't Y doing it.>"Remember Citizen, it is treason to suggest that there is no Anti-Pentagon" (Any fans of banned Soviet literature in the house?)Both OP and you are talking like you've never even suspected that "both sides" are always dancing on the same puppet strings.
Isn't that the simplest explanation for why, no matter which option we chose, we end up with the same results; why bitter enemies always have the exact same plans; why the non-partisan group overseeing US Presidential election campaigns ragequit decades ago making noises about illegal bipartisan conspiracy to exclude competitors; why every demagogue who rails against the current system always ends up directing their followers against another group raging against the system, instead of the people in charge of it?
It is like no pony even reads the Lynch Letters anymore…
>>2330>the lynch letterssorry if i didn't read it anon. here in the south is hard to get that kind of content. let alone while having 40 or so years of publication
Welcome to your life, there's no turning back,
Even while we sleep,
We will find you,
Acting on your best behavior
Turn your back on mother nature
Everypony wants to rule the world.
It's my own desire, it's my own remorse.
Help me to decide.
Help me make the most of freedom and of magic
Nothing ever lasts forever
Everypony wants to rule the world.
There's a room where the light won't find you
Holding hooves while the walls come tumbling down
When they do, I'll be right behind you
So glad we've almost made it
So sad they had to fade it
Everypony wants to rule the world.
I can't stand this indecision, married with a lack of vision
Everypony wants to rule the world
Say that you'll never, never, never, never need it
One headline, why not believe it?
Everypony wants to rule the world.
All for freedom and for pleasure
Nothing ever lasts forever
I'm this pony who want to rule the world.
>>2814>everyone watns to rule the worldshame a lot of people are fighting amongst themselves to get it
>>3062I saw an image in DB, but we need more lewd. You are right
GG! You made me get more info about this pony anon, and I fuck'n love the big idea behind this form of cucked dictatorship. I mean, that's the fucking world that's being built, with the WTO, IOT, mass surveillance.
So the European Union's future.
Ponies live with nature, traditions, individualism and magic in Equestria.
zebra and ponies who live in Industria are blinded by technology and a sterile society, playing on fears and obeying stupid rules. (right?)
Corporate Socialism, a mix of the power of the banks and the goverenment already exist
Throw all other villains in the thrash, she's perfect.
I'm going to lay this down here, as a Canadian. It's not the global stage where shit is absolutely abhorrent right now. It's the individuals. They aren't getting heard. Watch this vid (I threw it at it's relevant point, it's about 5 minutes but you'll see)
https://youtu. be/dFzyOPfL2vE?t=5m38s
>>159The only policing action I really support is getting rid of Kim Jong-un. Those fuckers are crazy and may actually use a nuke if they ever got the chance.
>>4620And I think that's the message of this story and universe, they aim to destroy the individual and throw it into an uniform mass that's easier to control.
It's just a shame I find this on a pony cartoon and not on some book or something.
>>3062You need a Derpibooru+ Account for this.
"I require you to perform immediate bodily fluid exchanges, citizen Anonymous."
>>4731if i remember, some anon made a story where she had like a special throne with a dildo attached to it that can cum.
was a funky story
>>4779
tough luck kid
be happy you at least are crying
the kids in the abandoned sector are being fucked or murdered just for fun
This is dark as fuck.
Most ponyfags have one or many pony OCs, this guy have made his own OC country with regime and all.
Saint Celestia will keep us safe from the New World Order!
>>5291Its not the first, and it probably wont be the last.
>>4691That's because this type of stuff is very sensitive.
We somehow live in a world like this
>>1537Patachu always be the kind of /pol/itically incorrect guy, crazy but with common sense. also most furries hate him, and he even got banned from 4chan for triggering SJWs, who tried to get him raided last year, with little to no success.
(On the ground of drawing lolishota/furry is illegal in France, no kidding!)
Moi je dis, surtout lâche rien!
>>56754chan has trannies, anarchists, mudslimes and unironic jewish cucks as moderators. So this is hardly a surprise. But still quite an achievement.
>>5680I got banned from their IRC channel many times as well, same for 4chan, but I got a dynamic IP. hehe!
What about some of Industria's landscapes OP? This looks quite a friendly place!
1984 was about a dictatorship, communism and lies of regimes, Anonymous in Industria has similarities and differences. This one is a bit closer to the actual new world order going on. Kernav is a bit like Big Brother, but that's counting all the ponies in control behind her, sadly the history is badly written.
However THIS gives me chills.
>>5675>most urries hate himthat can e track since the day he was commisioned to draw guro of the main FA admin
>he got banned for triggering SJWshe always got banned for tons of reasons. sadly, they won this time by making it permanent. and since france has only one internet service, he'll have to move out to comeback
If this were a cartoon or an episode, this should be the soundtrack I'd pick for it.
[YouTube] Public Image Ltd. - The Order Of Death (This is what you want... this is what you get - 1984)
[Embed]I really get the vibe of this world.
>>5786We should use "this for thee"
It would be perfect
we need some green so we can start working this shit
>>6723I would but I'd rather see something from Patachu first on this one, seeing how he wants to set his universe, I think he knows pretty much where he's going.
>>6774i know
it's just it leave us in a cliffhanger last time.
i mean, dt is outside, nyx is becoming more like a bio-weapon as a cultist for a secret sect, and silver spoon managed to contact her friend. i want to know how keeps going
>>6777okay i'll try and dump whatever i have in mind, anyways it is when i write i get new fresh ideas, just like when we draw or do something. Also i'm not sure if i should continue on this line of story, was thinking of making it more moody and complex, like being a fugitive, or a prisoneer of a state that tries to force you to format to its rules, it's a bit the idea of being redpilled, or kind of becoming Anonymous; hence the final title, Anonymous in Industria.
maybe later but there's a few stuff i'm working on that arent related to pones, also, lost my tripcode. but that's secondary, heheh
>>5777pretty much this, but i think i still should try and arrange things just to9 lurk into /mlp/draw threads and keep in touch with guys i know there.
furaff was kind of different, it was more a joke ban. i planned to leave furaff anyways and have more time for myself.
>>5701>>5704>>5705>>5706These are artworks, models or 3d compos from an artist called Nicolas Moulin, and that totally get me in the mood of making a world in a postcommunist world like this. you know, here in France there are cities with nothing but large buildings that completely eclipse the sunlight, not an ounce of grass around, only concrete, and distant smoke from factories. large empty roads, etc. it's rather an ambiance that's really supposed to be murky, and trying to put that on a sheet of paper is all some kind of job, i don't even know which medium/techniques i'm gonna use yet.
>>5786>>6512first heard that tune in Mr Robot, and I dig it too. So yea, their national anthem is a repetitive, synchronized synthwave beat.
>>6843>>6846i can say without a doubt that you really love this world, even when it's a manifestation of the reality you hate
this is going to become your greatest job yet.
also, i can understand if you choose the "anon/prisoner in industria" road. i mean, diamond comes back home, she talks the shit she lived, she gets a shrink to cop wit it, and celestia and luna will try to get
or eliminate nyx by sending a scout or our favourite green human to hell, and pray for success
>>7339L'état d'urgence éternel…
>>6846Flippant comme coin, on se sent dans l'univers de béton armé très proche de ton style!
>>7024Always give your enemy a face - it makes them easier to punch.
>>7859thanks for the advice america
>>157>flagyou need Marine Le Penn (MLP) in your heart
>>9818see
>>1325Suggestion:
make a group pic of all the leaders of pony nations. Celestia, Luna, Chrysalis, Aryanne, Kernav, Cadence, LePone, Veronika, Duke of Maretonia, etc.
>>10685and how will be the country limitations?
we know celestia's turf looks like the US, candy is up north, and chrysalis lives probably in the badlands in the south.
griffons are crossing the river, and dragons are mostly near volcans
industria and germaneigh would be beyond east
>>12571The changelings come from more in the south but they have no sea to cross.
Griffons have a whole lot more to cross and come around but they're still closer, still you're surprisingly well informed. as the borders they are not always really well determined. But let's check the geopolitical context to really get the story. *Map not in proportions.
>>12670>lefti can see that's where zebras are. shame they have tartarus and dragons close, but now with ember they can be great allies
>centerponies: the continent. also, nice one in the north division with the other races
>lemuria>[YouTube] Ruins of Lemuria (Golden Sun: The Lost Age Soundtrack)
[Embed]need to say more?
>hoviet union turfgreat, but:
>kolechia>no arstotskaDENIED! NEXT!
>industriawhile i know what stand have industria, i feel like i need to know about the other states. i mean, i'm more amazed industria left another states inside their domains, and not conquer them.
also, didn't expect them to have sea so close
>the jungle turfthere must be zebras, but i wonder what's the difference between a savannah zebra, and a jungle zebra
>>12720mostly, they are either at war or under some kind of tribal law.
>>12670What's going on ITT? Was this map made here?
>>13416nah
i think it's an old map when patachu started this story
>>12670Wow. The Changeling empire is spreading more on direction of Borduria and Equestria than it is heading to the soviet, industrialized countries on the southeast. I guess Licornia will be no more in the years to come if it continue, or does Equestria manages to contain the changeling expansion?
>>12670Is it me or Equestria is basically Russia?
>>13879Equestria's shape for some reason reminded me of it.
bump
the green is really interesting
I support donald trump but not industria