/cyb/ - Cyberpunk Fiction and Fact

>>1297
>western dystopian governments have literally SWAT'd amish farms over less.
Citation needed.

>>1300
Checked.
The bureaucracy gotta go.

>>1299
It's absurd. They spend more effort hunting down milk crime than they do human trafficking

big dairy lobbies for raw milk bans because it puts small farms under. there are real health concerns with raw milk of course. people have the right to choose to consume it or not.

>>1303
>real health concerns with raw milk
Name them. Raw milk is superior to pasteurized in every conceivable way. Pasteurization kills the essential digestive enzymes - there is no such thing as lactose intolerance for raw milk - and kills off more than half of the soluble protein and nutrients.
The only justification for pasteurization is that it eliminates industrial contamination and can be kept for a much longer period of time (because the living parts are dead).
The only possible risk from raw milk versus processed is related to how fresh it is and the health of the cowes (which is also much higher in raw milk producers than industrial, because the milk isnt homogenized across 1000s of heads of cattle). Additionally, most industrial milk operations use hormones and antibiotics on their livestock to artificially boost their yields, both by making the cows more 'safe' (read, able to pass bureaucratic regulations) and to stimulate greater production of milk.

>>1304
I meant the excuses they use of cases of e coli or whatever. It was significant back when they milked cows in the city in disgusting conditions, but it's much rarer now. There are good tests available, but still some kids have died from raw milk in modern times.

I completely agree with you about the superiority of raw milk and the disgusting state of industrialized milk. That's why I'm doing a herd share from a local farmer so I can have some while I save up to buy land. I can't wait to milk goats and eventually a small cow again. Milk you milked by hand tastes unlike anything else.

>>1297
Check this out https://based.cooking/

having grown up on a dairy farm, the main thing is to clean the udder really good (iodine disinfectant was typically used), then just milk away.
Be sure to strain it with a coffee filter or similar before drinking is all. Sometimes the cow will have a little bit of mastitis that is not detectable without straining the milk really good. If the mastitis is really bad, the cow is either on antibiotics, or is shot to prevent extreme suffering before death.
Also, don't drink the milk while the cow (or whatever is producing milk) is on antibiotics. Some of it ends up in the milk and can be sensitive for people and really bad for making cheese with. (cheese is literally growing certain bacteria, antibiotics kills the cheese)

>>1297
Hey OP (and everyone else here for that matter), do you guys follow the work of Aajonus Vonderplanitz at all? If not, he was a raw food advocate and super knowledgeable on health and wellness. I just wanted to see if there were any places to discuss his work and diet.

>>1411
>Adjonas Vonderplanitz
Not OP, but AV is a literal fraud. All of his accredation and certification is dubious.

>>1412
>accredation and certification
as if certified (((doctors))) are any more reliable. A medical (((dr))) would tell you that raw milk is dangerous and can kill you.

I've done AV's protocols for close to a year now with incredible results. I don't care about his credentials, I care if his info works. And it does.