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>>164
thank you, sir.

I hope this is not necro-bumping

>>166
You're good anon

>>167
ok, I just wasn't sure

>>136
Mine was great. We had such a great time together, but she started to deteriorate until eventually she died off. It was devastating. She's a bit of a different case though. I told her story once on /mlp/ shortly after her death. I can tell it again here if anyone would like.

>>169
go ahead, I'm willing to listen.

1st TFW your Tulpa is better than you in every way.
2nd TFW you wish he was something like a demon and not a /fit/ douche.

>>171
Or was it the other way around?

>>171
maybe /fit/ douches are what you imagine demons to be like.

>>114
I think I unintentionally made Kek into a tulpa, i keep hearing him in my head and he keeps predicting shit. I even can bargain with him for "do X stupid shit and i find $20 on the ground within the week"

>>174
>made Kek
You've got moxxie, but Kek predates u by thousands of years dood. Perhaps you have connected with Kek, but if you made it, it isn't Kek.

>>174
exact same thing here Famalam

>>175
Yeah its more of a connection, i dont even hear a voice, its just words that pop into my head telling me to do shit, gives advice and shit

>>177
Hmmm, sounds like fun. Take nothing for granted, maintain a sincere but critical curiosity, and don't take anything too seriously.

i can't even get myself together, how do yo uexpect me to get somepony else to gether?

>>179
Help each other get better

Actual tulpamancer here. All this magical stuff is bunk and if it wasn't, people would be using tulpas to commit crimes and do the impossible. Tulpas are a second personality you program and will into existence within your mind. They are as real as you let them be. Go to tulpaforum dot net or whatever that place was called, go there for information and leave when you've got what you want because the place is a circlejerking shithole.

>>273
Smart gb here

>>273
>using your mind to alter your perception of the world
Thats all magik is. Did i just happen to click on this gif on my computer when manchester happened? Or did Kek tell me that manchester happened by altering my movements to click on pic related? All depends on how you percive it. "Magik only exists if you believe in it", who said that? I did.

>>301
He's mostly right

boop

>>6998
I saw that

Make no mistake, tulpa-mency is a literal case of dissociative identity. It can be 'more', but is never 'less'.

>>114
>sigils
Use with EXTREME Caution.
The first image is EMERGENCIES ONLY.
The second image is less dangerous but always use with extreme caution.

>>13191
but wouldn't the summoning of a demon be the CAUSE of an emergency?

>>13277
Fight fire with fire.

>>13287
it seems incredibly risky and probably incredibly stupid and doomed to fail from the start, but it just might work!

>>13277
If it by those terms that the person approaches the act, then yes. It does not do for the unsorted to do any such things.
Also note that the list of angels and the list of devils and demons overlaps to a great deal.

>>13287

>Demon Invasion
>Summon more demons to get rid of the other demons

I dont see how anything could go wrong with this.

>>13291
>doesn't get it
You you want an explanation, or are you going to resort to your socially-ingrained perception on the matter? You know, the way people buy the holocaust story?

>>13291
>>13312
Either way, I meant it as a joke.
>'Two giant paint-bubbles!'

>>13313
In order to understand why one would/could benefit from summoning a devil, one has to realize that the world is already rife with demons.
One doesn't summon a devil to 'do the person's bidding', one interacts with an entity that is centuries/millennia older and more experienced and learns (hopefully) from that encounter.
Before summoning anything, the individual has to sufficiently sort themselves so they comprehend and appreciate the concept of individual sovereignty and (essentially) the NAP.
Demons are already active on the world, it just doesn't seem so due to a socially-ingrained diminished perspective threshold. The unwashed masses who eat nothing but consumerist trash while buying iphones. The willfully ignorant who abuse their kids because they never thought to learn that their experiences were neither normal nor healthy. The abject and drug-addled who assume that because their brain-chemicals make them feel good that suddenly they are going to turn their lives around just because they got pregnant.
These are examples of individuals who are quite obviously and quite literally being demonically influenced. Devils do not influence, they don't even bother anyone unless that person bothers them, and its only a bother if the person doesn't know how to act. They are nonethless, most ancient and most wise. The devils of today are the highest gods of previous years, responsible for strong and holistically developing societies and communities.
>inb4 sacrificial ritual
I think you will find when understanding humans that it is man (and usually duplicitous men) who demands sacrifice to the gods, and not the gods who demand sacrifice.

>>13318
I will give you an extent response when I get to PC.
>This post a reminder

>>13191
>Pic 1
These seem like seals craft in a similar manner as how Solomon used to make them, in the traditional way, really stylized to hide some of their meaning.

What these actually do?
Well go figure, it's not like you can actually invoke an entity (at least not physically) and since you don't know what the hell you are dealing with here you cannot even evoke the entity.
If you wanna mess with demons you might wanna learn some basic stuff first, like, people can't just into magic all of a sudden, just like you cannot become a weight lifted out of thin air.
I feel like everyone will give me weird looks now

>>13368
ID checked
Each symbol represents an idea, a precise archetype that can only be comprehended first through research. It doesn't matter what symbols one writes wherever if the person doesn't comprehend the symbols.

>>114
SUMMON ANIME GIRL ARMY !

>>13318
>>13287

Just a friendly warning for our wannabe Faust (the ambitious sorcerer, not the goddess who created our fandom):

You are assuming that 1) you can actually summon and enter into agreements with beings "most ancient and most wise," 2) that these devils are actually benevolent or care at all about you, and 3) you won't just be used like the foolish mortal you are. Indeed, if demons are already active, why wouldn't they influence you to give yourself over to them?

The idea of using "light magic" to counteract "dark magic" is preposterous, because if the latter existed its practitioners would have the experience and motive to dupe wannabe "positive occultists." Maybe it's my monotheistic beliefs talking, but the occult is nothing more than neo-pagan LARPing. If you want to fix a problem you go to top management or to an official representative.

>>13641
>that these devils are actually benevolent or care at all about you.
I don't understand Satanists for this reason. I doubt the guy who is, basically, looking to trap you within his realm of eternal pain and suffering is going to then be a nice guy and help you out.

>the idea of using "light magic" to combat "dark magic" is preposterous
I think there was a bible verse about this. >If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself.

>>13650
fuck
>If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself.

>>13641
1> And you are assuming one can't
2> I never said benevolent or caring
3> Because of individual sovereignty
>monotheistic beliefs
I think the word you're looking for is 'dogma'.
>>13650
And who said the guy IS looking to trap you within his realm?
It never ceases to amaze me how nazi realists don't apply the same level of skepticism to abrahamic traditions that they do the holocaust story.
If you want to be satisfied with your beliefs, you're welcome to do so. If you want to conduct your own research into religious history and traditions,... the sort of history that is hard to find and there are multitudes of organizations all-too keen to keep a lid on, you can try that too.

>>13677
1> I'd hate to borrow a page from the atheists' book of arguments, but the burden of proof is on you. The existence of demons is not in dispute here, but you are claiming that a human can actually get such an extra-dimensional being to appear and communicate. I have the right to be skeptical here.

2> If you are in doubt of their motives how can you trust them? You are being intentionally ambiguous because you yourself don't understand anything about this, but still want to be an edgy satanist. Again, there's nothing stopping your "partner," who is as you say far wiser and more clever, from tricking you by your own terms.

3> Yes, because demonic possession never happens. You are implying that devils adhere to the same moral standards that you do, which is ludicrous on several levels. We as rational humans accept individual sovereignty because we acknowledge each other as near-equals with a similar (on a species level) basis in biology and psychology. Why wouldn't a devil, who is immortal and far more advanced, consider and treat us as animals?

You can attribute any belief, or even lack of belief in general, to "dogma." I am monotheistic because of the straightforward reasoning that the universe must have come into being at one point, that it could only have come into being from an all-powerful original source, and that such a source could not be disparate because it would necessarily imply incompleteness and conflict. C.S. Lewis explains it better than I ever could.

Let me put it another way. You want to convince a devil, maybe even the Devil, to help you against the globalists. Yet theory suggests that they already beat you to the punch and already have the lead in the occult. Reason suggests that you as an individual will always have the disadvantage in this sphere, even if you could somehow use it. The only way to get ahead would be to be even nuttier than Marina (((Abramovic))). At that point, how do you know you aren't just being misled by your demonic "allies" for a giggle?

>>13678
You're looking at it from the wrong perspective.
One doesn't summon such entities 'who then appear on your couch and you have a little chat'. One doesn't give them a 'honey do' list and they go and pick up the kids from soccer practice. Interactions with such entities - on whatever level - are solely for the purpose of comprehension. Its a sufficiently decorous and sovereign individual, of a race that has really let its self go, inquiring of something more archetypal and seasoned than one is ever likely to have the means to call upon, and exchanging ideas and information.
>inb4 You assume they're going to
They don't have a choice when you do it right.

Tulpas are such an interesting concept.

My perception of this stuff:

It seems to me that everything is vibrating energy. Atoms I would visualize as being more like ripples when a rock is dropped in water. The rippling substance is spacetime which I think is the quantum flux ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation ). These virtual particles are peaks and troughs in the vibrating energy sea called spacetime.

Our bodies are made from atoms and atoms are these miniature pools of vibrational harmonics. These are receptive to and can broadcast into this spacetime sea.

Our bodies are the natural evolution of life from these primordial vibrations cause by the big bang. Upon this consciousness emerges, a coherent arrangement of energy fluctuations in the sea of random energy. We are intimately connected to this sea and by extension to other consciousnesses in that sea. Further when we die the "echo" of our consciousness can still exist in that sea and with sufficient intent (Will) remain coherent. It does not have the gross arrangement of atoms but the more subtle arrangement of quantum flux virtual "particles"/ripples.

This nebulousness of the quantum flux means that consciousness doesn't have strict boundaries, just like an arrangement of water in the ocean does not have strict boundaries. It is when we use atoms as a container or focal point that the atoms become a perception or proxy for strict boundaries of individuality. I speculate that this is one way nature is evolving new consciousnesses into existence.

The brain being electrical can broadcast and receive signals from this sea. And just like an antenna, if it is transmitting it is not receiving. A meditation like state is where you stop transmitting and start receiving, e.g. dreaming. But reception alone is not enough, your equipment needs to be tuned ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing ) or you are just perceiving random anything.

Consciousness is nebulous, and Will is the intent to self organize the sea of energy into consciousness, this is also called sanity. Therefore you can emerge multiple consciousnesses from the sea of energy with Will power. This can be viewed as multiple personality disorder or creating a new consciousness. It is the same thing said different ways.

People can therefore broadcast thought waveforms into this sea collectively and makes gods or devils. People die and can exist still due to intense will. This is why places of evil can remain haunted. These in turn can willfully concentrate there energy back on to people. But it is much more difficult for the finer quantum flux to knock around the cruder bulkier atoms.

http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/the-scole-experiment-overview.html

I personally have done meditation when younger and had voices talk to me seemingly audibly. These days I use the concepts above to scan for information when I am stuck in research, sometimes with surprising suggestions. I also "imagine" beings into existence and converse with them. Epona is very pleasant to talk to, and it can be interesting to get suggestions counter to your intentions and deal with that.

The Vril women grew long hair to act as antenna for psychic perceptions. If the quantum flux is a medium to convey information and hair is connected somewhat near the brain, it isn't completely dismissible.

[YouTube] Michael Persinger on No More Secrets [Embed]

Tulpas are a very interesting subject.
I'm not sure how I feel about them, to be honest.
[YouTube] I, Robot | Dr Alfred Lanning - There have always been ghosts in the machine... [1080p HD] [Embed]

" When does a personality simulation become the bitter mote... of a soul? "

The way I see it, a tulpa is just as human as you are. You can add as many partitions to a hard-drive as you want, but in the end, each one still does the same thing.

>>20045
>a tulpa is just as human as you are
It is. One's personality, the perceivable "You", is conditioned and developed over time; likes, dislikes, habits, interests, etc. A tulpa is in a sense, a younger you given a degree of autonomous personality independent of the "you" that has developed as principal. It can have its own likes, etc. just as the individual can and does.
This perception - the one you describe - is also paramount in having/maintaining a healthy relationship with a tulpa.

>>20142
Which is why I'm hesitant to create one.
How would someone that shared my brain, who knew how I thought about certain things, react to these things?
1. All humans are selfish, no action a human takes can be done completely without the desire to make itself happier
2. I never asked for this life, but now that I have it, I'm going to use it.
3. Should someone who is already of broken mind, fragment their mind further?

In all honesty, I'm not sure I wouldn't hate myself, if I had created myself.

>>20145
[YouTube] Like brothers, Only Closer [Embed]

I know and respect the fact that a tulpa is a living human, just like you. So while I am the kind of person that is perfect for one in that sense, it's also the thing that makes one so wrong for me.
The tulpa websites always warn you about things to not do, etc. The way I see it, I'd only be birthing a tulpa into a world that I don't even enjoy. If I'm not happy in this world, can a fragment of my soul, even from a different perspective, be happy either?

It's like having a child, only that child grows up much faster, is always with you, and is stuck with you in your own mind. It isn't a decision that should be taken lightly.

>>20145
>>20146
If one is already of a partially fractured mind, then creating a tulpa is just a matter of taking responsibility for and giving life to what has already occurred. Additionally, a tulpa - in sharing memories and awareness - is the most perfect entity when it comes to appreciating one's involuntary existence and the otherwise insufferability of the world one inhabits. To put it another way, if one's mind is already fragmented, the tulpa technically already exists; it simply hasn't been 'born' yet.

>>20147
Since it is part of you, shares your memories and awareness, it could see why you would create it. It probably is true that as long as you do it correctly, a tulpa will never hate you. I wouldn't say that a fractured mind is the same as a fragmented one.
Yes, my mind does have cracks, but it's all still in once piece. I haven't completely separated any pieces from each other.
Though it does make it easier to do. It's easier to understand how it's possible, and thus, do.
Another concern is the creation of an echo chamber. While there is a chance for this, I have to recognize that certain things that piss me off, but can be dealt with on a day-to-day basis, having two people angry at something, makes it easier to make a stupid decision during that day to day.