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There are a few things I'd like to do in this thread
- document my soap making process
- document process changes and upgrades to equipment
- detail common problems when making soap
- answer any soap making questions
- eventually let everyone know when and where product can be purchased
Basically everything to do with soap.

I'm not concerned about telling somebody how to make a product that I'm selling either. There are a few reasons for this: Some people won't be able to receive such a product overseas, or it wouldn't be feasible to ship. I'm not so petty to think that trying to conceal information somehow results in "job security". The soap making process is already quite well documented. Finally, I didn't start making soap to make money with, I started because of the memes, but also to have a product to better prepare myself for economic collapse.
I wish to share this with you guys so (you) too can better prepare yourself for whatever is coming.

Lets start with the boring stuff, like what is soap?
I would define soap as a surfactant. A surfactant is a molecule that will bind to water, oil, and particles.
The US legal definition is 'soap made from natural ingredients'. Synthetic soap is often sold as 'beauty bars' or 'body wash' instead of soap, because they are not made with natural ingredients.

Most modern engine and transmission oils, and heavy grease used for equipment will contain detergents. Don't let the word detergent mislead you, it means the same thing as surfacant.

Lye harvested for soap making in ages past is called potash. The potash lye soap making process is a fair bit more involved, and the chemical reactions are a bit different. https://classicbells.com/soap/woodAshLye.asp
Potash soap has been made for a very, very long time. If one of you decides to try this out, please let us know how it goes!

"modern" naturally made soap uses either potassium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide for the lye. Sodium hydroxide is used for making liquid soaps, sodium hydroxide for solid soap bars.
The easiest way to get sodium hydroxide is from a hardware store selling containers of "pure lye" drain unclogger in the plumbing section. For example https://www.homedepot.com/p/Instant-Power-Crystal-Lye-Drain-Cleaner-1650/204374017

Soap made from natural ingredients is a very sloppy chemical reaction. There are untold numbers of different chemicals and compounds found naturally in any given type of oil. Most of those oils will react with the lye to make some rather complex reactions that result in "soap". It is not uncommon for the soap to change color as it cures for this reason.

Oils are typically mixed and matched to make a nice bar of soap, as no single oil has a good mix of the fatty acids necessary for a good bar of soap.

When making your first batch of soap:
Start with solid bars of soap, instead of trying to make liquid soap. Liquid soap is much pickier about what kind of oils you use.
Use an existing recipe for your first batch, then try to make soap using as much local products as possible. When economic collapse happens, getting those foreign oils will be much more difficult or impossible.
Start with a 2:1 water:lye ratio. If your recipe calls for 12 ounces of lye, use 24 ounces of distilled water. Ignore however much water the recipe calls for.

When building your own recipe, or modifying an existing one, use the following two web pages:
http://soapcalc.net/calc/SoapCalcWP.asp
https://classicbells.com/soap/soapCalcNumbers.asp
And when in doubt, ask in here.

This first post is just a boring autistic dump on chunks of important or related information. I'll post a lot more (actual making) soap stuff when I get the chance. I think this is a pretty good start though.

Be sure to ask whatever in here about anything related. Over the last year I've been pretty autistically going over how most people make soap, refining my own process, and doing fairly deep-diving research on the topic and general chemistry.
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>>4792
Any updates on that beer you were talking about soap?
Anonymous
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sure
made a batch a couple weekends ago, about 7 gallons. Need to bottle it now. Probably going to try a few different things before getting something good to take to mare fair.
the yeast isn't working too good, mostly because there isn't a way to regulate the brewing temp and the swings tends to kill the yeast.
I want to get a cheap costco chest freezer and put a temp control probe in it to keep the temps around 66F. Or maybe I can find a used chest freezer.
Anonymous
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>>7440
the beer was enh. need to try again but over the winter, bugs and mice got into the grain, so need to get more. did end up getting a chest freezer and it works great at keeping the fermenting the same temp. Very important to keep fermenting at about +- 6 degrees F

It's been a while since I updated soap making stuff. Mostly been keeping the website going and shipping soap orders. I have incense, but its not listed on the website. Been tossing incense in with soap orders as a bonus. Need to make a lot of stuff, until now its been too cold on the weekends to do anything. I'll take pictures of the new stuff as I get to it.
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Whew, been a hot minute.
I haven't really updated anything because nothing has really changed for soap making, until now.
Got a lot of other important stuff fixed (house, car) that should be good for at least a few years before anything further needs to be done.
That means I get to go back and work on making the soap manufacturing process better \o/
Not that the soap will be "better" really, but the manufacturing process should be faster, soap better looking, and should last a little longer.

>>6194 and >>6725 is the two posts I mentioned soap milling.
Well, now I'm getting the tools needed to make the dies so the soap shreds can compress into a bar. Linked is a little video I found of a hyper-efficient soap milling setup. I'm not going that far, but with the dies I plan on making, such volume should be realistic. That volume of manufacturing will require a lot more supporting equipment than just a die and press.
Regardless, I plan on making a batch of soap, shredding it with a cheese shredder, mixing in some dye and fragrance after its cured, and press it back into a bar of soap. I have everything I need except for the die and press.
The tools in the screenshot should be all the tools I need to make the dies with.

Unrelated project but is relevant to this board is also brewing. If you know me then you might already know what it is. Project will be more impressive than soap making.
Until I get enough progress to start a thread, not saying much else.
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>>9037
>video
Beware of Soapone.
Business Dog
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>>9037
>Got a lot of other important stuff fixed (house, car) that should be good for at least a few years before anything further needs to be done.
>a few years

I like these kinds of DIY breads, but you've got me intrigued about how to fix a house and especially car so that it lasts a few years before extra work needs to be done. :0 Move over ChrisFix and Scotty Kilmer.

Also, those are eye-watering prices for those fancy drill bits; hoof-made by a secret clan of Japanese Samurai Ponies?
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Now that I'm thinking about it, I lied... maybe. The clutch is close-ish to needing replaced. Could probably go a couple+ years before actually getting replaced though. It's a bit "squishy" due to a failed street race and I burned the clutch a bit, probably took half its life out with a bit of clutch glazing.
The thing I fixed was the timing belt pullies. Stock pullies are made of plastic. I hate plastic. I made my own out of steel with replaceable bearings.

In the picture, those are all endmills, not drill bits. Look up CNC mill videos on youtube or something to see how endmills work. Also refer to the 'mares in manufacturing matter' thread also on this board.