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No.1829
1839 1897 2097
Now, now /ub/ you are practicing your arguing skills and critical thinking, are you not?
I propose this thread to practice such skills, let us start with some simple lessons:
1- Do not get emotionally involved when arguing.
2- Do not purposely commit fallacies
3- Fallacies are there to help, not to shield
4- Fallacy-fallacy is a thing, watch out for that
5- Always back up your arguments with facts
6- Learn to shallow your pride, you can't win every argument, it is preferable to admit defeat than making a fool out of yourself.

Now with that in mind, get into any 3+1chan or any other place and argue with someone, post screencap here and i'll judge your performance.
Remember guys, practice is the key for success.

You can also challenge me to an argument if you so feel like it, just post something in this thread we can argue about
Anonymous
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No.1838
This might be worth thinking about.
Anonymous
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No.1839
1843
>>1829
Nice thread OP, you got the whole picture on how to deal with the basics of an argument.

I would still like to add that this is only truly effective in a planned debate. Average normies are better off being fed propaganda, not rational case by case arguments.
Anonymous
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No.1840
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So I got a question over which I have been thinking a bit. You know these guys who are really good at speaking casually? I would call it verbal agility. How to become like that?

I'll give you an example:
A person asks "if I push your head underwater, what do you say?"
Me: uhhh? (At this point I am thinking of ways to interpret the question and different answers in different scenarios)
Good Talker: "blggh blghh blghh *gulp*"

I need to become more verbal.
Anonymous
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No.1842
>>1840
You should check out stand up comedians, especially when dealing with hecklers, and improv artists. Perhaps consider taking an improv class
Anonymous
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No.1843
1844
>>1839
Normies are indeed mostly braindead, but to win an argument or debute something thrown there as a fact I.E. Homosexuality is good, you can actually redpill some normies

>>1840
That comes with practice, anon. Talking with different kinds of people will give you different ideas on what to say.
>Average normies are better off being fed propaganda, not rational case by case arguments.

Anonymous
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No.1844
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>>1843
>That comes with practice, anon. Talking with different kinds of people will give you different ideas on what to say.
I'm afraid so...
The thing is I am the guy who listens and thinks. So much that there have been people thanking me for talking to them and expressing my opinion, which is REALLY strange.
Anonymous
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No.1876
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Is that even arguing?
Anonymous
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No.1897
>>1829
Good info. Thanks.
Anonymous
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No.1907
1915
>>1876
IT FUCKING WORKS HOW?!
Anonymous
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No.1915
1917 2045
>>1907
>>1876
To this day i don't know what this post is supposed to mean.

Anyways, we need conflict here.
Democracy paves the way for communism, thoughts?
Anonymous
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No.1917
1942
>>1915
Democracy means giving everyone an equally important voice. Communist voices are laughed out of the room when they aren't backed up by the Liberal-Jewish Industrial Complex. Niggers who can't build a functioning society shouldn't have their opinions or pussy monkey feelings taken into account by superior civilizations. Human rights are for humans, not Liberals or Jews or Spics or Niggers. Ban Communism, it's a weapon of war against reason, civilization, and humanity.
It isn't an inevitability that being a soft weak Democracy-loving nice guy makes you finish last. Being nice is only a weakness when it's exploited by evil people.
Also how does transgendery actually work? Ftm and mtf, redpill me on these.
Anonymous
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No.1942
1982
>>1917
While democracy does works flawlessly in theory and in execution, it cannot withstand long periods of time without turning into communism not only by corruption alone but because a democratic society will eventually grow up big enough to make X percent of the population feel "opressed"
Once that number rises from 0 to 10% you have a big problem, suddenly people will consider a de-centralized government is the way, this is when communist propaganda comes in and hits such society with a firm blow, weakening it's very core.
Does this means any democratic society needs a strong policy regarding state-possitive propaganda?
But wouldnt that easily turn into a dictatorship or monarchy, or worse, a slave population situation?

I assume ftm is horny girls taking advantage of gay men's promiscuity while mtf is horny gay men tired of gay men trying to lure heteros into fucking them or just a fetish, fantasizing to be a woman.
In any case mtf sounds a lot more like a mental illness or trauma than ftm does, yet in any case both cases are devious in nature and as such mental problems that should be treated to ensure a homogeneous society.
Anonymous
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No.1982
>>1942
If you look on the bad side of the internet, you will see art of Sonic The Hedgehog licking Knuckles The Echidna's feet.
You will see art of Sonic The Hedgehog licking Knuckles The Echidna's anus.
You will see art of Amy The Hedgehog turned fifty feet in height and given muscles that would make Broly, The Hulk, and a Super Mutant back away in fear, Sonic stuck in her massive-handed grasp like a fly in a human's hand.
And you will see art of Sonic The Hedgehog being kidnapped by Eggman and forcefully transgendered by a raygun and brainwashed by brainwashing headphones.
"Sissyfication" is a fetish. "Man-ificated women" is a fetish without a name because we've been """socialized""" (brainwashed) into thinking it's normal to be a girly man who craves a big strong rich girl to sweep you off your feet.
Anonymous
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No.2045
>>1915
The post was meant to mean "Holy shit, THAT'S how it works? It fucking works in WHAT way?"
Anonymous
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No.2092
2098
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This image is relevant
Anonymous
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No.2097
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>>1829
I like this thread.
Anonymous
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No.2098
2099
>>2092
So like a diaper commercial without all the logic is a pedo commercial?
I never really understood the appeal of naked babies on a diaper's commercial.
Anonymous
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No.2099
2111
>>2098
I think it's supposed to be appealing to mothers' maternal instincts or whatever.
Anonymous
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No.2111
>>2099
Good point, my shitty joke does not stands.