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Bugs you found, and changes I made
Pupper
## Admin
No.5911
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Bugs you found, and changes I made

Just thought I'd create this thread where you can post any bugs or problems with the site you encounter. And also for me to post any big changes I made.
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Anonymous
No.10167
10169 10173
>>10165
Every anon has a cadence that can be fed into and cross-referenced with AI. Personally, I don't give a fuck, but I can understand others having reservations, and unfortunately there is no (at least to my knowledge) no way round it unless we use IPoAC, but then cats become a problem.
Anonymous
No.10168
10169
>>10165
I remember this. I genuinely hope you're doing good, Nigel.
Anonymous
No.10169
>>10167
I would prefer cats to doxxing.
>>10168
I am not nigel.
Lotus
## Admin
No.10173
10174
>>10151
The only way an AI or anyone could identify people - not just say "Hey! This is Anon1675!" but actual people, is if that poster was posting personally identifying information.

This is not a reasonable fear for a number of reasons. No one would have any incentive to do this at all. The AI could discover literally nothing except maybe take a guess as to the number of regular users based on the number of recognizable writing styles. It would be hard to correlate posts that are completely anonymous across the website. Sure, you can look at the posts and take a guess as to who is behind the post based on factors like paragraph spacing, the use of first person pronouns, the nunber of spaces after a period, etc., but you can't actually tell much about that person. The only reason it's possible on this website at all is because the tiny number of users means these small differences are noticeable. If you had dozens, hundreds, or thousands of people with the same quirks, like on 4channel, it would be impossible to tell people apart.

>>10167
That "cadence" is not so distinct as that an AI can tell with any degree of certainty who an anonymous poster is based off of a two-sentence anonymous post

>>10165
>let's have an AI make our bland posts even blander so that our posts are too bland even for an AI to find any kind of personality or individuality in them, and every post from every person is perfectly alike
No.

Just don't post personally identifying information and you're fine.
Anonymous
No.10174
10175 10177
>>10173
Maybe YOUR pattern-recognition sucks, but I can identify posters from here on 4chan, and if I can do that without software, then anyone can with a bit of ingenuity.
Anonymous
No.10175
10176
>>10174
This is the male netizen equivailent of the "I'm an empath and can sense what wild animals are feeling" woman.

The internet is full of distinct communicative archetypes. There aren't too many that stand out, but the ones that do have consistently identifiable traits. A bunch of Saudia Arabian trolls will all type the same due to growing up and learning passable English in the same environment. Polacks will use the same grammatical flaws carried over from whatever language they speak. Aussies will use Australian vernacular. It's easy to determine where someone is from after spending so long on consequence-free discussion boards where they'd be less inclined to type proper and at least pretend to not be retarded. To think you've found a specific person on 4chan who is a poster here based on these typing nuances is ridiculous.

There was a guy on my home board a while back who begun sperging out at some poster he saw who use the term "phoneposter". This guy said that he had been on 4chan years before and told them he was posting from a phone, to which of course he was called a lousy phoneposter. Well years go by and after seeing the term used on another board, he immediately believed that it was the exact same guy from all the way back then on that other board that gets 200,000 posts per day. Even after being explained that "phoneposter" was an common accusatory derogation going back to the early 2010's, he still maintained his conviction that he had found the precise man who slapped his ass red and raw so many moons ago. That's what you sound like. If I was as stupid and delusional as you, I'd accuse you of of being that sperg. But I know that "delusional old guy who thinks he can profile anonymous users based on 2 sentences" is an archetype to which many people belong.
Anonymous
No.10176
>>10175
If it was based solely on pattern recognition, you might be right, but thats just the tip of the iceberg. It's not a sixth sense where every poster is obvious, but after a few posts and a few unrealized tells "Oh, it's 'them'"
Lotus
## Admin
No.10177
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>>10174
Yes, I'm sure you can recognize posters on a website with only a few dozen posters, or in /mlp/ 4channel threads with only a few dozen posters if that. Can you recognize every poster? Why not? Because there's only a few idiosyncrasies that stand out and not every poster has enough of those to stand out. Most people don't have many of those, and if they do, it only shows in longer writing.

And then, how much will a "tell" stand out if you had a thousand, or ten thousand, or an unknown large number of posters? Suppose a poster has an idiosyncrasy that is present in 10% of posters, and he has three of those idiosyncrasies. Not capitalizing words in the beginning of sentences, not adding an extra space after paragraphs... what have you. That would mean only 1 in 1000 posters would have those three "tells" if each has an occurrence of 10%. I'm sure a 1/1000 chance is good enough to be reasonably sure you're dealing with the same poster if you're on this website, or in a general in /mlp/, but what if you are on an imageboard with 10,000 posters? Out of 10,000 posters, there should be about 10 posters with those three tells. And so on. And did you notice your qualification "after several posts"? Every single thread, you have to start anew trying to connect posts. That means that an AI software would need to start anew every single thread. That's a tiny amount of data to work on compared to, lets say, any social media with handles, which is to say, literally any other form social media besides image boards. And how do you know if you actually have the same person? You never do.

So let's say that someone did train an AI to recognize posters. Okay, congratulations, what do you know about Anonymous1765? Well, he or she doesn't like jews, and lives in the United States if you're posting from a Geo IP and not using a proxy, which the software has no way of knowing... That's not anything meaningful at all. the only way you could possibly be doxxed or seriously lose your anonymity is if you're doing things you already should not be doing. And why would anyone train a software to do that? It wouldn't work on /pol/ because there's just too many posters and bots already there to make identification possible except for tripfags. There's no reason at all to do it here or on 4channel /mlp/. There's no point and it would be easier to just read the threads yourself. In any case it would be far, far easier to just pay or subpoena Hiro for IP data, which would make the task dramatically easier because then you can compare posting across the website instead of just within the thread. Also, delisting mlpol.net from Google would do nothing at all. You'd only see it in Google if you googled mlpol or similar, and then at that point you may as well just type in "mlpol.net" and you'd get here anyways.

Anyways, it's about as reasonable of a fear as fearing you will get hit by a meteorite in your room... except that actually has a non-zero chance of happening. Just don't be a dumbass when you post online, and don't dox yourself.
Anonymous
No.10178
>>10177
Well put
Anonymous
No.10179
>>10177
I appreciate the detailed explanation
Anonymous
No.10180
>>10177
You act like this started recently, when on my end this has been going on for over a decade.
Yes, you're right about statiatics, but as with statistics eventually someone shows their hand, at least in tht it differs from 'other similar examples'.
Anonymous
No.10182
>>10181
Now you can be banned again for ban evasion.
Anonymous
No.10184
>>10183
Ban evasion is cause for ban. I'm pretty sure this isn't the only thing you've been banned for, just one of the most recent ones.
Anonymous
No.10186
>>10185
>I mean if there's to be a rule for that, I'll eat the ban
You have been banned for spamming, harassment, and intentionally derailing threads. See rules #2 and #3. You evaded those bans, resulting in a permanent ban.
You broke the rules, so eat the ban.
Anonymous
No.10188
>>10187
>The spamming, harassment, and intentional derailing of threads occurred long after I had already been banned.
That does not excuse it. Now you have additional bans for completely legitimate purposes. Nopony on this site thinks spamming is acceptable.
And four more counts of ban evasion.
>who else
Boomer, Nigel, Zald.
Anonymous
No.10190
>>10189
The rules against spamming and derailing are not unjust. You have broken them repeatedly.
Anonymous
No.10192
>>10191
>The RULES aren't unjust, but the application (and misapplication) is, and renders the rules moot and unjust.
You spammed. You got banned. That is the appropriate application.
Notice how nopony is defending you? You have alienated anypony who would have stood up for you with your behavior. You have no friends here because of what you have done.
>fight
Okay, go ahead. Continue to impotently splurge your mantras of weakness and failure. I am not a staff, so it is not my decision.
Surely, continuing to spam and ban evade will convince people that you deserve to be unbanned eventually.
Anonymous
No.10194
>>10193
Whatever you say, fag. Enjoy staying banned.
Anonymous
No.10195
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I have no idea what's going on.
Anonymous
No.10198
10201
>>10131
If range banning Vietnam isn't an option could we at least find an AI tool that can automatically ban CP?
Anonymous
No.10201
10202
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>>10198
Could you conceive of a way such a system could exist without relying on a database and deep knowledge of existing CP? CP spammers in the past have switched to anime and 3DCG to circumvent immediate human detection, and boards that inhibit suspected bots from posting images just get the same spam sans image. Plus having any sort of AI that sends image data outside the site is very risky when it comes to illegal content. There was the incident a few years back with IQDB getting shutdown by some gay hippie Canadian AI-CSAM detector for "distributing shota pics". The gist of it is:

>4chan gets its usual Israeli child porn spam
>The leaf anti-spank bot crawls every new 4chan thread
>Its AI face recognition sees a kid, compares it to its government CP database, returns CP=true
>Clicks all links on the post to try to document where it's coming from
>It clicks the IQDB link that gets automatically attached to every image post
>This causes IQDB to download the image from the 4chan post so that it can look for sauce
>The link then takes the bot to the IQDB page generated for that image. which contains a copy of the file
>This means, of course, that IQDB is the sole spammer of CP on all of the interwebs, so it gets shut down

Don't trust a robot to do a janny's job. What could be done right now is the admin could hook up with the creator of https://xj9k.neocities.org/ and make a mutual scrape agreement to automatically delete posts matching entries on the list. Just need to have Milpool check that list periodically (or every time a new thread is created) and add the spam post body contents to Milpool's spam filter. It would work better with access to the non-[redacted] content. In exchange, the XJ-9K would probably need help getting the scraper to work here because obviously if it was easy to do on ASPNetChan, it would be doing it by now.
Anonymous
No.10202
10203
>>10201
Would purify AI work?
Anonymous
No.10203
10204 10324
>>10202
I'm not sure what that is, and any attempt to find out just returns the same buzzword-laden actually AI-generated description that says nothing as to what the product really accomplishes. Again, the only AI that can reliable and quickly detect CSAM images is one which is trained on it - a model that nobody outside LEA has access to. A rudimentary AI language model could be implemented to screen the text contents of a post to prohibit certain words, but that would affect more regular users talking about the presence of CSAM and related concepts than it would actual CSAM spammers. The XJ-9K feed I linked to reveals that most spammers either obfuscate suggestive words like "loli", or don't use them at all. The text services spammers link to are also usually mainstream sites such as Telegraph and pastebin (which itself has an anti-CP filter that is easily subverted).

To think all small imageboard spam would have been eradicated 13 years ago if Tinyboard had some sort of simple "waiting list" queue for new threads that could be toggled conditionally. Boards of this size don't have large teams of mods anymore. I'm one of two active mods on my own board and if both of us are asleep at the same time, spam could be up for half a day. CP is a nuclear weapon that can be used to destroy any small website, and the list of what counts as a munition is only growing. There are a lot of theoretical end-user configurable spam solutions that could be made through simple PHP and JS, and I believe those solutions should be explored long before employing complicated, unpredictable AI that relies on third parties. Or we could just eradicate the nations that the spammers live in.
Anonymous
No.10204
>>10203
Blocking problem nations seems like the best solution.
Anonymous
No.10206
>>10205
Depends, does it come in the context of persistent spam, thread derailment and ban evasion? I have a hunch that you're being banned for those instead.
Anonymous
No.10288
>>10287
What are you referring to?
Anonymous
No.10294
10308
>>10289
What's your example?
My only real complaint is that they seem to be letting boomer ban-evade. Ban evaders should not be posting here.
BoomBoom
No.10308
10321
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>>10294
>seem to be letting boomer ban-evade
I'm not banned any longer retard.
>Ban evaders should not be posting here
You have a loooooooog misunderstanding. Years ago I was using multiple proxies and continued posting unaware Faces already banned me, but as soon as I found out because of multiple complains by you haters, I stopped posting.
So, politely stfu and don't disturb me, please.
BoomBoom
No.10310
>>10309
>Marefair will be fun ^_^
Yeah! Celestia wants it.
Anonymous
No.10318
Might start cataloging this drama for shits and giggles.
Anonymous
No.10321
10322
>>10308
When did you get unbanned?
>>9054 → >>9058 →
BoomBoom
No.10322
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>>10321
Keep digging the archive, you'll find my application and subsequent approval.
Anonymous
No.10323
add "Add to Thread Watcher" to the catalog view of threads
Anonymous
No.10324
10349
>>10203
Is an AI model that is trained on CSAM images itself CSAM? If someone who didn't work for the government were to compile such material and use it to create an AI model to make such images, I am pretty sure that it, and every image created with it, would be, legally speaking, held to be exactly that, at least in the US.

And so I don't think the laws make any kind of exception for the cops, when it comes to CSAM. I could be mistaken. Of course, the Feds are constantly setting up honeypots and stings where they put CSAM on the Interwebs and then arrest the people who download it, too. It's been going on since the dialup days thirty years ago. I have never heard of a defense attorney getting very far with that line of reasoning, not even once, but I'm not a lawyer and I claim no expertise in the field.
Anonymous
No.10349
>>10324
Purify ai would fit that bill, but it would delete all porn. At least the bongs would still be allowed to post.
Anonymous
No.10721
10722
Seems like there is a bug that causes threads to not get bumped when someone writes a new reply.
I only noticed it on /mlpol/ so far.
Anonymous
No.10722
10723
>>10721
Have you been hard refreshing? CTRL+F5?
Anonymous
No.10723
10725
>>10722
nope , also it is not from me , another anon saw this too (the saudi)
Anonymous
No.10725
>>10723
happened to another anon here as well
>>>/mlpol/396782 →
yeah it is just a bug then
Anonymous
No.10846
10847
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Hi, i keep getting this error everytime i open the site. is this mine problem or site's? it goes away after a few refresh.
Anonymous
No.10847
10849
>>10846
>SSL handshake
That's the encryption https protocol. Something or somebody is messing it between you and the Cloudfare servers.
Business Dog
No.10848
10850 10851
(((Cloudflare))) lolol. You do know that (((Cloudflare))) decrypts all traffic between a website and the user? That includes credit card numbers, passwords, posts, marepussy, etc. Of course they also have your IP address (ability to discover your full identity), and they're one of the driving forces behind the upcoming conversion of the Internet into a completely (((zero-trust))) network - all for your safety and protection of course. The devil and his children LOOOOVE to keep God's creation/children safe and protected, they are VERY concerned with the world's safety and protection.
(((Google))) "Trust" Services (lololol) now provide the SSL certificates to (((Cloudflare))), and this website uses those "Trust" certificates. Better get ready to pull out your 100 point government ID when accessing marepussy in the near future.
Anonymous
No.10849
>>10847
Okay then thanks.
Anonymous
No.10850
10852
>>10848
Then why are you here?
Anonymous
No.10851
>>10848
I don't encrypt my marepussy, because I am not ashamed.
Anonymous
No.10852
>>10850
He wants to appear like an enlightened church reverend but I keep imagining this one tweeked out crackhead I saw last time I ordered some fast food in person. Poor guy was scrawny and limping, with a strong filthy odor only barely masked by Axe deodorant caking his entire body, hair, and clothing in chunky globules.
Anonymous
No.10877
10878
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i am having problem from accessing the site, i hope it's not serious.
Lotus
## Admin
No.10878
10879
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>>10877
I haven't been able to replicate the issue
Anonymous
No.10879
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>>10878
okay no problem, it's probably from mine, thanks for the answer lotus.
Anonymous
No.10885
The threadwatcher can't remove a thread after it's been archived.