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689f4 No.241809

Psychedelic drugs such as psilocybin, DMT, and mescaline have been used by various cultures throughout human history. Today they are criminalized because they are commonly used for recreational purposes. While it is true that you could hurt someone under the influence of these drugs (if you were say operating heavy machinery or driving). It is unlikely the the drugs themselves will harm the user. Most psychedelics are not addictive and nearly impossible to overdose on. I believe by criminalizing them we are throwing the baby out with the bath water. These drugs may be of value for people experiencing PTSD or depression and they have less side effects than SSRIs. These drugs may also have value for those seeking spiritual experiences under controlled settings of course. What do you think /mlpol/? Are psychedelics just plane degenerate or can they have legitimate uses?

0e4fb No.241812

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The war on drugs is retarded, but people who abuse drugs should take responsibility when it fucks them over, just like with any other degenerate behavior.

81f08 No.241813

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God made humans perfect, no need for stimulants or foreign substances. Vice and hedonism is a tool for decadent beings.
And three words for you OP: Kill Yourself Degenerate.

689f4 No.241818

I'm not saying use them for a good time. I'm saying use them medicinally or spiritual experiences.

5168c No.241824

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>spiritual experiences
Yeah right. That's exactly the same the hippies said.
Take a hike, deviant.

89048 No.241828

Psychedelics are degenerate because they are linked to pagan practices like divination that disrespect Hashem. We must respect the Torah, our bulwark against degeneracy and the foundation of Western Judaeo-Christian civilization.

689f4 No.241834

There is a real difference between getting shroomed out of your mind at rave and meditating on magic mushrooms.

81f08 No.241839

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You can spin it all you want to accommodate it to your "freedom" to do whatever you want, but junkie liberals larping as libertarians are a cancer to be burned.

689f4 No.241845

I'm not trying to spin it. Psychedelics are not toys. They should be respected. I'm not saying people should do what ever they want with them.

c61cc No.241858

the thing about drugs is you have to find them and get high with them

e5731 No.241880

long term use of any drug will fuck you up but that is especially true with psychedelics, it's also advised anyone with mental health issues should not be taking them, including those with clinical depression (unless we're talking ket here but that's a dissociative). I'm a newfag am i getting too serious here?

d87b9 No.241890

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MLPOL is a Jenkem trafficking site.

8cd59 No.241900

>Unlikely (that) the drugs themselves will harm the user.
No, anon you dont get it.
The problem is not your health, the problem is time, drugs can harm your time.
If you use them for recreation, youre wasting time doing something worthless when you could be doing something to improve as a person.
It Is important to have a break once in a while but even then someone responsible might pick a book or pay his favorite instrument instead of doing drugs.

That Is not even addressing spirituality, there Is a lot of speculation in that field but for the sake of argument, assuming drugs replicate the effects of deep meditation, that Is also bad as you never learn to get into a higher state by yourself and instead depend on a substance to achieve what other men can do naturally. Just imagine how much of the landscape you lose by taking a shortcut?

6c82f No.241903

Those with PTSD are the last people you'd want to give psychotropics for the risk they'll have a bad trip and go on a killing spree because they think they're back in Nam. 'Spiritual experiences' is just an excuse for junkies to get high. I'm of the opinion they're not needed and that anyone championing the normalisation of their use is a degenerate, but there's also something not quite right with the zeal of those crusading against their use. Social ostracisation should be all the discouragement allowed, not the continued bloating of the legal system.

726d1 No.241904

You clearly have a scholarship, and not a bunch of conjecture
>Psychedelic Mushroom Compound Found to Grow and Repair Brain Cells
>"The proposition that psilocybin impacts cognition and stimulates hippocampal neurogenesis is based on extensive evidence that serotonin (5-hydroxytryptamine or 5-HT) acting on specific 5-HT receptor sub-types (most likely the 5-HT2A receptor) is involved in the regulation of neurogenesis in hippocampus,” says Dr. Sanchez-Ramos according to NaturalNews. “The in vitro and in vivo animal data is compelling enough to explore whether psilocybin will enhance neurogenesis and result in measurable improvements in learning."

ed87e No.242049

Drugs are a degenerate vice of niggers, OP.

689f4 No.242050

>Drugs are a degenerate vice of niggers, OP.
They can be used as a vice, sure, but they have positive uses too. Not all drugs are the same. Tylenol is a drug. Caffeine is a drug. So is heroin. You can't just lump them all together. There is room for nuance here.

689f4 No.242052

>That Is not even addressing spirituality, there Is a lot of speculation in that field but for the sake of argument, assuming drugs replicate the effects of deep meditation, that Is also bad as you never learn to get into a higher state by yourself and instead depend on a substance to achieve what other men can do naturally. Just imagine how much of the landscape you lose by taking a shortcut?
Some of these drugs will take you places that you CAN'T get too without the drugs. They make parts of the brain communicate with each other that usually do not communicate with each other.

81f08 No.242056

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>Psychedelic Mushroom Compound Found to Grow and Repair Brain Cells
Do you have any idea how "modern" science works? Mostly it is a travesty of the scientific method.
The government gives away everybody' money and calls it "grants" to universities, pharma, and all sort of (((VIP beggars))), which establish a pseudo department tasked to research "X", then they hire tons of women and protected minorities straight from the education marxist factories and tell them -"Now You Are Scientists". Their job is mostly to test an unending battery of samples and to fill spreadsheets with the results, or, to push papers from one office to the next.
To make it short, it is about to burn money to push "minorities" into STEM while displacing White men. So, there is a correlation between the lack of academic rigor and absurd conclusions. And given enough amount of money, pseudo science can give you the result you want to hear.
So, I would take all this "modern" research with more than a grain of salt.

689f4 No.242057

That isn't the only study showing that psychedelics can grow and repair brain cells.
Other scientists are reporting the same thing. Honestly this is good news. It is about time we found something better than SSRIs, which aren't even designed to fix the underlying problems which cause depression.

81f08 No.242058

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>underlying problems which cause depression.
I will tell you a secret that even the most retarded brick layer knows.
The cause of depression is a idle mind with no purpose, and tons of time available to spiral downwards.
Give the depressed subject enough pressure and problems to solve, and depression will go away, miraculously and without (((medicines))).

689f4 No.242059

>The cause of depression is a idle mind with no purpose, and tons of time available to spiral downwards.
There are brain abnormalities that can cause depression. There was a woman who could not feel joy holding her own child. You think that person didn't have something medically wrong with them?

81f08 No.242060

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Your point is to look at drugs as benign and useful in some cases. My point is that you are a malign being trying to plant subversion.
This tactic of to present abnormal cases have been used many times before to open the gates without opposition from the gullible goyim, but it is unlikely to work here.

689f4 No.242061

>My point is that you are a malign being trying to plant subversion.
I am doing no such thing. I am a long time poster here and not a kike. I genuinely think SOME drugs are benign and can be useful. Do I think that of all drugs? Of course not. How about instead of accusing me of being subversive you tell me why I am wrong.

81f08 No.242062

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>I genuinely think SOME drugs are benign and can be useful.
-"I genuinely think that sodomy is benign and can be useful for SOME individuals."
Do you see a parallel here? Both statements might be valid in some contexts, and both can be at the same time so morally wrong.
Once you open the gates for tolerance and exceptions to be contemplated, there is no way to know where all this will end. Currently we are witnessing the results and abuse of those concepts and I think, the pendulum is beginning to come back hard to a hyper restrictive approach.

93af4 No.242072

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Yes they are actually the safest drugs they feel like your recycle bin in your mind got emptied and great to help focus, erase past traumas, straight kill bad habits from alcoholism to porn ,weed etc. Europeans have used psychedelics longer then any other culture and continuously.

The faggots in here totally against them are idiots and ate up all the good goy jew lies. The same people who don't even realize caffeine is a drug thats actually harmful to the function of the body and cause auditory hallucinations, eating hormone filled meat. Drinking plastics thats in the water, eating out of plastic containers that actually does have phytoestrogens. Alcohol hands down is straight poison and jewish poison at that.

Its the equivalent of people not wanting to take care of the environment because liberals, faggots and jews make it look like its for faggots because they are doing it purely for their selfish gain and not to better their community. But having a clean, nature encroached environment free of niggers and shitskins really does make life happy, and far more immune to propaganda.

Hippies understandably make a lot of the safest drugs look degenerate because they are degenerate, but these faggots also drive cars and I don't see anybody against driving cars in here.

e0923 No.242074

>shilling for drugs
Either the drugs already made you dumb or you are truly evil trying to whitewash them for the anons.
If you already crossed the threshold to become an initiated to those substances it is your business, but to promote them is despicable.

8a857 No.242075

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>The faggots in here totally against them are idiots and ate up all the good goy jew lies.
>Trust me goy, I have something that will make you feel good.

689f4 No.242081

There is no comparing sodomy to drugs. There are some drugs that can be useful. Sodomy has no uses, but I see what you are trying to say. You are worried that if we start to accept some drugs then we will start to accept other more harmful substances or practices. I disagree here. If we look at drugs from a case by case stance then we will still find some drugs to be awful. I think you are throwing out the baby with the bathwater here.

689f4 No.242082

To promote them for the right uses is noble. If we have something that does a better job than the poison that is SSRIs we should be using it.
You want to see a Jewish drug trade go look at who runs the opioid market, who controls the SSRI market, who controls the pharmaceutical lobby. You will see a pattern.

329b4 No.242084

See, you are already dependant on them without even using them!
Sure drugs make it easier, but to claim something Is impossible because no one has done it before is to deny progress, and that's just ignorance.
Instead of depending on external factors, one could just practice and study, but that seems like too much work for most "people" so they take shortcuts instead.

You can use drugs once in a while, if you want, thats your choice. But to depend on them, thats just stupid.

ee4de No.242120

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Transhumanists are allowed to use drugs, anyone else who does is just a degenerate.

"medicinal", "spiritual", and "meditation" are just lame excuses and not properly transhumanist notwithstanding extremely specific circumstances.

>harming a person's time
this almost warrants a thread of its own. Should I pave over my garden because it cuts down on upkeep? Should I have all groceries delivered to my doorstep by the globohomo jews because it saves me a few hours every week? hire a maid or housekeeper for all the chores? Should I surrender to single-use products, rather than wasting time on upkeep,repairs,and recycling? Should I surrender to the latest form of rent-seeking; the leasing of refrigerators, washing machines, cars, etc? Should I watch MLP?

ba18c No.242145

Sorry that everyone in this thread is clinically retarded, anon. An interesting twist of irony- everyone is a faggot except OP. If you want to know the real truth, consider the ideas expressed by Terence and derive your own meanings. That is all.

81f08 No.242148

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>Sorry that everyone in this thread is clinically retarded, anon
>when degenerates believe "for real" they are the new normal

f367d No.242163

Should you play games for 8 hours or work out?
Use critical thinking to find out how everything might help you one way or another.
Fixing your sink teaches you a lot more than smoking a joint and doing little for the rest of the day.
Playing games might increase some skills and reduce stress even that has a purpose.
But drugs or alcohol, what does that do for you?

d50ac No.242170

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drug addicts have been lead to believe drugs are good by the jewish media that always talks about them like we should be taking them every second of the day and the international drug trade is the result of a clown world that allows this degeneracy and encourages it

alcohol addiction is greed and gluttony, when taking alcohol you are giving yourself over to Judaism and can be stopped by gaining a higher state of mind where you realize that it is a poison that destroys you and effects everyone around you and is a huge waste of money and time due to how much the jews keep raising the price.
it can also be stopped by seeing that you don't need it to have fun with other people or by yourself, and you can have fun just normally without having to damage yourself

porn addiction is not a drug but it sends high amounts of dopamine to the brain which is very similar to a drug which can lead to depression, it is lust and is created by an excessive amount of boredom and will result in masturbation which can be stopped by giving yourself more fulfilling tasks that will prevent boredom and will make you abstain from degeneracy and if you can't stop random sexual acts then you have a niggers mentality

weed and mushrooms are sloth and the users are really hard to be saved due to how blue pilled they are and is used as a tactic by the jews to subdue the masses into accepting the death of their people but i believe it can be stopped by becoming more red pilled as long as the user isn't already to far gone all you have to realize is the amount of time and how much you are being subdued and blue pilled by believing these jewish journalists and "researchers" that these drugs can help you when you know all they want is for you to sit on you're ass so they can keep exploiting our people and lying to them,
(you) know this yet you do the very same thing that our movement seeks to eliminate and the leftists keep saying you should do and you believe this because you are gullible and naive and you must seek to improve yourself because you are not smart if you do not think about you're actions and thus you are not a red pilled individual.
these major sins are leading you into Judaism and you must seek to not become the Jews servant because you know you are more than a slave and i hope you realize (you)'re importance and i hope you stop yourself before you end up completely betraying you're people and giving yourself over to Judaism.

2f3fe No.242268

Terrnece was CIA from the start. His bullshit got worse as the years progressed.

fe026 No.242269

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>international drug trade
Can't be a trade if the degenerates asking for the fix suddenly begin to banish.
Ask Mao for details on how he ended the opium epidemic in China.

81f08 No.242335

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I found "The International Church of Cannabis" dedicated to replace the worship of God with the worship of an herb as well as an abstract veil of Satanism all around painted on its walls.
>Denver's International Church of Cannabis

>The Illuminati Church of Cannabis

89104 No.242360

I have had several realizations on psychedelic drugs (mushrooms/lsd). Most of them minor, like how natural sun worship is, or how to drink beer without looking like a bitch. Nothing important. BUT, there was one true life changer, and that is that God must exist. Call me a christkike if you will, but it's better than being an atheist like I was. Also was able to get off of SSRIs with them.
However, it must also be stated that stupid shit, like the idea that humans are all fundamentally one group of people that can live in harmony if we all did drugs together, etc. come with it. They cause you to project your good intentions onto everyone; which causes you to overlook the evils certain groups exhibit.

81f08 No.242367

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>like the idea that humans are all fundamentally one group of people that can live in harmony if we all did drugs together, etc. come with it
It sounds to me like chemically induced acceptance.
Perhaps terminating the weed supply might turn most liberals into NatSoc killer machines.

>National Academy of Sciences Study: Administering Oxytocin to White People to “Reduce Xenophobia”

>Hug Hormone Oxytocin Boosts Bonding By Releasing Cannabis-Like Molecules

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