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Trump vows mass immigration arrests, removals of ‘millions of illegal aliens’ starting next week
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>President Trump said in a tweet Monday night that U.S. immigration agents are planning to make mass arrests starting “next week,” an apparent reference to a plan in preparation for months that aims to round up thousands of migrant parents and children in a blitz operation across major U.S. cities.
>“Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States,” Trump wrote, referring to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “They will be removed as fast as they come in.”

>Trump and his senior immigration adviser, Stephen Miller, have been prodding Homeland Security officials to arrest and remove thousands of family members whose deportation orders were expedited by the Justice Department this year as part of a plan known as the “rocket docket.”
>In April, acting ICE director Ronald Vitiello and Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen were ousted after they hesitated to go forward with the plan, expressing concerns about its preparation, effectiveness and the risk of public outrage from images of migrant children being taken into custody or separated from their families.
>Vitiello was replaced at ICE by former FBI and Border Patrol official Mark Morgan, who had impressed the president with statements on cable television in favor of harsh immigration enforcement measures.

>The family arrest plan has been considered even more sensitive than a typical operation because children are involved and Homeland Security officials retain significant concerns that families will be inadvertently separated by the operation, especially because parents in some households have deportation orders but their children — some of whom are U.S. citizens — might not. Should adults be arrested without their children because they are at school, day care, summer camp or at a friend’s house, it is possible parents could be deported while their children are left behind.
>Supporters of the plan, including Miller, Morgan and ICE deputy director Matthew Albence, have argued forcefully that a dramatic and highly publicized operation of this type will send a message to families that are in defiance of deportation orders and could act as a deterrent.
>According to DHS officials, nearly all unauthorized migrants who came to the United States in 2017 in family groups remain present in the country. Some of those families are awaiting adjudication of asylum claims, but administration officials say a growing number are skipping out on court hearings while hoping to live and work in the United States as long as possible.
http://archive.is/2rUAH
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>>226092
I'LL Believe it when i see it.
Anonymous
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>>226092
>removals of ‘millions of illegal aliens’
I believe it would be a few thousands to show off towards the 2020 election.
After that, if he wins, business will be as usual, not wall, not stopping immigration, be legal or not.
One way or another he will be the last Republican president because most legal foreigners vote for free shit. Demography is destiny.
Anonymous
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>>226092
>>226094
Trump has vowed a lot of things that have never materialized. I really hope he isn't full of shit but considering his past record on immigration, this will just be for show.

what's most likely going to happen is Trump will have a few highly publicized raids and maybe a few thousand people will be arrested. they'll be sent to immigration court and released while they're being processed, which purposely take a long time. if Trump is called out because actual deportation aren't anywhere near his rhetoric, he'll deflect blame to the democrats.

like always nothing is solved while shitskins from all over the world flood our Southern border. this is just like him sending the military to the border which has done fuck all nothing. looks great but in reality does nothing.

Trump is all smoke and mirrors
Anonymous
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>>226094
>I'LL Believe it when i see it.
I'm thinking the same
Anonymous
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>>226092
>please re-elect me!
The boomer cries out as he sucks jews...
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Remember when pic related was being tabled as a legit theory?
Ho boy, how the times change.
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>>226113
>FeelsBadMan
Anonymous
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>>226113
>thinking that the ones playing their games are against them
Oh leafy...
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>>226097
I want it to happen, I hope it will happen, but it won't happen. He's full of shit.

I can't even hope I'm wrong, I know I'm right.

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I found something on Amerika today that I think perfectly and accurately sums up the current grumblings about Trump coming from the right, and why you're basically shooting our side in the foot if you fall for all of this utter nonsense about him being an Israeli shill or ZOG or whatever nonsense (which is itself a narrative being pushed by left-wing shills). Allow me to drop the quote in verbatim, and you can all digest it as you see fit.

>Your average Right-wing cretin will not understand this, but government is complicated. Disassembling its insanity requires many small steps, not a few big steps. If you try to take those big steps, a huge crowd rallies against you and your presidency fails. So you act like a businessman: for every thing that you want done, you raise the cost of not doing while reducing the advantages of not doing it and increasing the advantages of doing it. Eventually the scared, bickering, angry, neurotic, chattering, whining, self-pitying, agitating, and attention-whoring herd comes around to see it your way. They will not otherwise, because they thrive on those attention points, so you have to force them. Trump is eating away at the Leftist dominance of courts and benefits of immigration. Do I wish he had built a wall, ending affirmative action and civil rights, deported Leftists, and killed off all law since 1832? Yes, of course, but only a dictator can do that. Welcome to democracy, in which we have voluntarily hobbled ourselves because it would offend our pretense of individualism/equality to admit that some people are better than others and in saner times, we called them “kings.”
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Bye bye beans!
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>>226140
This is how I feel about the situation. The president doesn't have as much power as people are led to believe by the media. Trump has done some things that have pissed me off. Most notable are the bump stock ban and him grumbling about suppressors. But I'm still gonna vote for him in 2020. The shills can screach about MIGA all that they want. I'm not voting for Hillary, Biden, Bernie, or writing in garbage like Mickey Mouse. I've gotten two Supreme Court justices out of Trump. That alone has been worth my vote. When's the last time that we had proof of life for Ginsburg? That's almost certainly going up to three justices once Trump wins 2020.
Anonymous
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>>226140
This. I just think a lot of us are getting impatient, especially after the complete and total abuse of presidential power we got out of Obama. I also can't imagine Trump is having a good time trying to jockey with the House, Senate, and Courts when all three are set against him in one way or another.
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>>226145
>I've gotten two Supreme Court justices out of Trump.
Ginsburg death watch! Maybe three!

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>>226140
I would have bought that shit a year ago but not any longer. he absolutely sucks Israel's cock. there is no conspiracy or shill narrative about that. virtually every promise he made to Israel he's kept, it's why he's so popular there.
we will attack Iran which is entirely for the sake of Israel and Kushner's peace plan is nothing more than giving the Israel's an excuse to shoah the Palestinians or force relocate them.
>we offered them so much but they don't want peace

when you do everything and more for someone, it kind of makes you an Israeli shill, double so when you've completely reversed on the most important things you ran on. just because left wingers are exploiting this fact doesn't change it. they'd be completely retarded if they didn't mention this fact often. even so it doesn't change the facts.

Trump's complete reversal on immigration is even worse. Trump ran on deportation and shutting down immigration until things were fixed, which he does have the power to do.

since he was elected Trump has wanted amnesty for DACA illegals and their parents. Trump has been shilling for more immigration and his administration has even expanded work visa, for fucks sake they are giving work visa to the fucking tree monkeys from the caravans. just read the Trump administration's "Bold Immigration Plan for the 21st century", it's an absolute abomination and could have easily been written any Obama admin nigs.

so Trump has completely adopted the cuckservative position on immigration. he's also adopted the cuckservative position on 2A. what did you forget about him supporting Red Flags laws and "you gotta take the guns first". if it were just a one off thing I could forgive him but then Trump goes ahead and puts anti gun Chuck Canterbury in charge of the ATF.

on the two issues I care about Trump has completely flipped and at best makes grand empty gestures to "show" the plebs he's doing something.

so fuck him, all this bullshit tells me is that a political solution is completely impossible. I will not choose between the lesser of two evils, when both of those evils ultimately lead to the same place.


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>>226131
of course he's full of shit. Trump makes a grand show, liberals chimp out but in reality he does nothing or worse, the exact opposite.

take his side deal with Mexico. it's about "sharing the burdren" of refugees. not stopping them but bringing the visible numbers to a more tolerable level. however since liberals were triggered it must mean he's stopping the hordes. even though reality says something entirely different.

Trump knows his poll numbers are shit and that's why he's making this grand but empty gesture. watch and see how it plays out.
>ICE makes a few public well documented raids
>shitskins crying, a few beans but I bet they'll be mostly muzzies.
we all hate muzzies but even more importantly his masters do. he won't deport too many beans because he wants the bean vote, not that he'll ever win it but that's the plan
>Trump shills will spam imagines of the raids declaring SHILLS BTFO
>a week or two passes and nothing changes, Trump shills move on to the next narrative.

this happens every time


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>>226096

>He will be the last Republican president because most legal foreigners vote for free shit. Demography is destiny.
>Texas turning blue.

Am sure they'll find a way to keep up the illusion then.
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>>226158
Goverment is complicated goy, you have to suck jewish cock all day just to tweet some shit you'll never actually do.
>>226140
Now really, we cannot expect him to accomplish everything he promises but come on, globo-homo? Syria? the relentless record Israeli cock-sucking?
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>>226175
being a Jewish slave is a given at this point. everybody knew he was going to cuck for Israel but his unwillingness to deliver on the only campaign issue that mattered and actually try to shill for establishment position on immigration is unforgivable.

Trump served his purpose, he has split the nationalist movement. even if he loses he's served his purpose well enough.
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>>226173
It's not turning blue, faggot.

Half of the Californians who moved out here are turning right wing, and every spic who can speak proper English thinks they are white and votes Republican too
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>>226140
I agree with the sentiment but I don't think that should make him immune to criticism. I don't think Trump wants to distance us from Israel at all. Yet, I do acknowledge that its basically impossible for any conservative to want to do so and have a chance of winning right now.

Instead of raving like madmen about Jewish conspiracies we need to start small to make your average conservative see the truth. Doing too much too fast wont work. Society conditions people to shut you out if you do so. Instead we gotta use what the education world calls "scaffolding." A base of simpler information that more complex structures can be built upon one piece at a time. Best thing to do is start by showing conservatives the "Gods Chosen people" rhetoric is a load of bullshit not supported in scripture. The recent findings about the Israeli USS liberty affair are also prime material.

Identity Dixie has a pretty good article using religious reasoning to disprove the "Gods chosen people" claim: https:slashslashidentitydixie.com/the-dual-covenant-heresy/
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>>226329
Hey, they don't need to find a way then!
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>>226334
Trump is as subject to criticism as any other president we've ever had and I have my criticisms of him as well, I don't worship the ground he walks on like some boomer #MAGAPEDE redditor. Overall I think he's still basically doing a good job and has produced better results than we would have gotten with any other viable option in 2016. However, what concerns me more than anything else is that so many people on the right are so hung up on fighting DA JOOS and other /pol/ memes that they completely fail to grasp the actual situation right in front of them. Trump, with all his faults, is quite literally the only chance we've got right now of turning the tide in our favor. There is no other viable option; either Trump stays in office and the fissures currently disrupting clown world continue to spread and tear, or Trump is pushed out of office and it will be like the last 5 years never even happened.

Trump's actual accomplishments and/or wrongdoings are far less important than the fact that we managed to get him elected in the first place. We pushed someone into the office of President who wasn't even supposed to be a viable candidate; nobody seems to appreciate just how huge that is. That's the only reason there's so much pushback against him from the elites and the media. Nobody in the monoparty really gives a shit about abortions or Mexican kids in cages or any of the rest of that nonsense; they want Trump gone because he's an aberration. If he goes away, whether it's because of some phony Russia-collusion charge spun into a bs impeachment, or because voter apathy on the right causes him to lose his reelection bid, the results are the same: the establishment monoparty resumes control, and everything goes back to the way it was before.

For all the theatrics going on right now, the Democrats are about 80-90% likely to nominate Joe Biden, because he is overall their safest bet. Not necessarily in terms of electability, but because he would be the kind of President they need. He's boring, he's got a soothing voice, he knows how to look and act like a President. If Joe Biden defeats Bad Orange Man, then Bad Orange Man goes away and it means things are back to normal. The proles can go back to sleep, they don't need to pay attention to politics anymore. That's bad; we don't want a return to normalcy. We want people on both sides to stay pissed off, and to get even more pissed off until eventually something breaks. That is literally our only chance.

Trump isn't the God Emperor, he isn't Hitler 2.0, he isn't going to make anime real. The reality is that Trump is nothing more than the opening shot in a war that is realistically going to last at least a couple of centuries if it's going to ever be successful. Most of us are not going to live to see anything that even remotely resembles a Western European ethnostate, neither will our children should any of us be fortunate enough to reproduce. But we have to do what we can. It took a long time for shit to get this bad and it's going to take a long time to fix it. But that's precisely why Trump is important, and why future Trumps will be just as important, even if the men themselves turn out to be disappointing on some level.

If our side ignores the long struggle to focus on whether or not this specific president is some kind of puppet being controlled by Zionist Israeli space lizards or whatever kind of tinfoil-hat crap /pol/ believes is going on behind the scenes, we've already doomed ourselves.

To demonstrate my point, here's a picture of Quibble-cuck banging his stepdaughter.
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>>226334
I find starting with the black people being violent subhumans weaponized by the jews makes it easier to see why jews are bad.
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>>226336
Pretty much this. Honestly, anyone who saw Kushner come into the White House along with Ivanka and still thought Trump was going to start another holocaust is retarded and deserves all the mockery they get.
In addition, too much of /pol/ fixates on the social policy side of matters, and pays little to no attention to the economic aspect of his presidency, which is where his real strength lies. If he goes down in history for anything, it'll be for being a good economic president at the very least.
Meanwhile, I just want everyone up north to stop obsessing over burger politics for long enough to pay attention to our own.
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>>226336
Also this. This is the long game we're playing, assuming we don't experience complete and total economic and societal collapse around 2033 like Vril-Anon has said previously.

>>226353
>pic
You came to the wrong desktop, motherfucker.
You know, I really haven't heard all that much of what's going on in Canadaland. Normally, a Leaf friend of mine fills me in, but he's been missing from the Interwebs for a while. Mind filling me/us in?
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>>226336
migration is worse than ever and Trump isn't even doing what is in his power to stop it. tons of empty rhetoric and grand gestures. Trump is also shilling for more legal migration. the Kushner plan is so awful that many republicans are completely against it and working to undermine it.

immigration and 2A are the only issues I care about. I will not accept infringements on my second amendment right nor will I support increased immigration of any kind. the RAISE act is the compromise for me. so when Trump pushes for Red Flag laws and appoints gun grabbers to the ATF, Trump broke from me, not me him. in 2016 Trump ran on deportation and shutting down immigration until it was fixed. so far I see illegals flooding into the country in record numbers and Trump shilling for more legal migrants. on this too I didn't break from Trump, he broke from me.

so from my perspective you have democrats who want to gun grab, Trump supports gun grabbing. democrats want to flood the country with immigrants, Trump wants to flood the country immigrants legally. since Trump has taken the establishment GOP position on 2A and immigration I really see no difference between him or a democrat. there is no political solution. they want mass migration and they will force mass migration. they've been doing this shit for 50 years and they aren't going to stop. I thought Trump was different but apparently not.

why people hate da joos is simple. Trump has 90% approval in Israel for a reason. Trump has kept every single promise to the Jews, literally every single one. for fucks sake GOP governors are signing into law unconstitutional Israel loyalty laws and Florida's completely insane anti free speech laws that essentially make criticism of Jews a "hate crime". we might go to war with Iran completely for the sake of Israel. it's not really difficult to see why people harbor resentment, that otherwise wouldn't be there.

the barbarians are the gate and the horns have touched it, we don't have the luxury of playing the long game. we have maybe 10-15 years left at best.
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>>226367
with the non stop flow of non white mass migration collapse is certain and we can thank the Civil Right's Act for that. the government uses the ethnoracial pentagon/hexagon to determine a person's race. all groups are afford civil rights except one, whites. this makes absolute sense in when the country was 87% white. it is perfectly reasonable that you would have laws protecting the 13% against the 87%, it's also perfectly reasonable to help the 13% when you have a super majority 87%.

however after 50 years of the largest mass migration in human history (largely non white) the civil rights system has become a racial caste system. whites under 30 are essentially a minority so now you have the non white <30 majority receiving protections against the white minority, you have <30 non white majority receiving preferential treatment in hiring and school admissions. however if you're white can complain about these difference you are labeled a racist, even by the cucked GOP.

so imagine a country where the founding ethnic group has been placed at the bottom of a racial caste system. imagine a country where the protected foreign majority is taught from birth to hate you, blame you and harass you with total impunity.

this is America and once the boomers die and whites lose political power, this whole fucking thing goes up like a powder keg. civic nationalism might work if non white migration is completely stopped and we return the the nation of origin act. civic nationalism might work if people are legally treated equally and the racial caste system abolished. however we aren't going in that direction. pushing for mass non white migration is not going in the right direction, pushing for special laws protecting specific groups is not going in the right direction nor is constantly shilling and pandering to the various victim groups. unless we are treated as one legally and in fact, the country is doomed.
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>>226367
I generally don't keep up too much with politics, since I've always been of the mind that worrying constantly about things beyond my control is a massive waste of time and energy at best; time and energy I'd rather reinvest into other things with an actual payoff.
All the same, the most recent thing that crossed my desk relating to local affairs was the SNC-Lavalin controversy; itself months old, which should tell you a fair bit about how out of touch I am.

If anyone doesn't know about that, the basic gist is that SNC-Lavalin, a huge engineering company here, was caught bribing the Liberal Party's members a few years back. The former attorney general, Jody Wilson-Raybould, was pressured by Justin Trudeau's office to try and dismiss the prosecution against SNC-Lavalin, and in a rare display of integrity for our government, she refused, and got demoted.
People of course got suspicious, and Trudeau got all cocky as he is wont to do, proclaiming in a press conference - the same day an ethics investigation was launched into Jody's demotion - that nothing was wrong and that "[Jody's] position in our cabinet should speak for itself". She resigned that evening.
The fallout and damage control would have been a marvel to behold, if most news outlets that weren't (((The Rebel))) weren't following the CBC's orders example and damage controlling for the Liberals and Trudeau. Even then, a ton of people taken in by Trudeau's charms were quite shaken up about this.
A definite redpill moment for Canada, but I'm gonna have to wait until his expected 2019 re-election to see the real fallout, if any, of his ongoing incompetency becoming more and more exposed. Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get to see a no-confidence vote mid-term!
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>>226092
Will not happen. Standard scare tactic sabre rattling. Same exact bullshit as "red menace" when FDR & Wall Street not-so-secretly supported judeo-bolsheviks & Stalin to the tune of 50 billion shekels. Close to thirty thousand kike owned corporations pay zero tax on 5 shekel an hour criminal aliens, they would not profit from the border being closed. Only 212,000,000 to 228,000,000 (((registered slaves, oops I mean "citizens"))) of the 307 million in the Jew-S are taxed. Double oops. Clean FBI agents did their job in exposing that number. European, Baltic, Asian nations with shoot-on-sight border control increase. Real fences go up across the world yet amerimutts continue to slobber over jew policies.

>>226140
Found the La Sia shill getting $0.02 shekels per post. Trump's cuckwife and jew-sons support the continuous mass slaughters of the only remaining Semites in the world: Palestinians. The kikes want to be Semitic. They were not, nor will ever be, Semitic. Doublethink at its absolute worst. The (((president))) of the (((Corporation of the United States))) has such power to close all borders. Has only been invoked twice: once by half-cucked Despot Lincoln, second by military-industrial complex cripple extraordinaire Franklin "My Wife Cucks Me Daily" Delano Jewsareswellgoy.

>>226145
Two pro-zionists holding more power than any one million mutted slaves is a great victory? Guess that means the DREAM act becoming DACA isn't so bad to all the huwhites since Trump the Great Deceiver says "this is a good thing for you, goy, don't oppose it". By the way: posting from britcuckland using a Germane proxy is not smart. Your syntax & wording gives the shilling away.

>>226334
Conservacucks are majority boomers with the remainder being their brainwashed pro-zionist children in support. Doublethink indoctrination is impossible to inoculate against when used at a young, utterly malleable age. Look up the definition of: "mind virus". USS Liberty incident is well known:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx72tAWVcoM

>>226336
Ever read the meanings of "political theatre" and "religious theater"? When das juden finally made their way to Greece, Rome, Egypt, they were terrified at the, obviously false, theatrics they discovered. They did not understand satire. To this day they still do not understand satire except that it is a threat to them. In such fear of both forms of theater, once they created judeo-christianity both concepts became "theirs". The quickly sprouting arms of degenerate corruption would control politics and theater for over 2,000 years. Religion is a hoax, it means nothing save to create more divisions for conquering. In sum: sabre rattling while too cowardly to even hold the first sabre.

P.S.: faux-incest is degeneracy like incest is. Don't shill for a pro-zionist mind virus.
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>>226392
We all can hope True Dough gets his comeuppance, my Canadian brother.
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>>226399
That he'll get his comeuppance is beyond question; I just have to play the waiting game for that. I just want our monarchy back. Or a new one with functional balls.
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Trump has basically stated he'd going full cuck this election.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/20/trump-2020-swing-voters-1372703
swing voters are largely white men and women with at least a high school education but no college degree. and now you're seeing Trump crater with college educated white males under 30.

Trump "base" now is christcucks and boomers, pretty much told the populists to fuck off. so he'll be running the standard GOPe campaign which isn't about anything other than the democrats are worse than we are. which is great and all but when the GOP is nothing more than the democrats on a 10 year delay, it makes little difference.

I will never support more immigration (legal or illegal) nor will I ever support any infringements on 2A, unlike what Trump says about himself, I am a 2A absolutist.
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>>226410
The article you linked says basically the opposite of what you say in your post. What it’s saying is that Trump is doubling down on the Traditional Trump strategy and agenda. “Swing voters” to a journalist outfit like Politico means Neocons, and if they say he’s not appealing to them, that means they don’t think he is promising to moderate on immigration or anything
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>>226413
actually no. in 2016 Trump targeted people who don't vote regularly, ie working class whites. swing voters are largely whites with a HS education but no college. their biggest issue was immigration, the nationalist populist part of the Trump agenda he's seemed to have forgotten.

Trump's current base is largely boomers and christcucks. Trump is jettisoning the working class and hoping to replace them with hispanics and blacks. that is the classic cuckservative strategy and it is always a loser.

Trump has completely cucked on immigration, he ran on deporting illegals. he ran against the Gang of 8 amnesty(which hilariously he supported on twitter earlier this week).
his "bold immigration plan for the 21st century" is pure cuckservative immigration which is why more conservative Senators like Hawley oppose it.

just look at Trump's immigration rhetoric in 2015 when he campaigned and look at where he's at now. he has completely adopted the GOP establishment line.
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>>226422
Okay, but that has nothing to do with the news article. Politico definitely does not share your idea of what constitutes a “swing voter” or what kind of immigration policy the “swing voter” wants.
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>>226422
>Trump is jettisoning the working class and hoping to replace them with hispanics and blacks
If that's actually his plan, it's doomed to fail.
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<a onclick="highlightReply('226381', event);" href="/mlpol/res/226092.html#226381">>>226381</a><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('226391', event);" href="/mlpol/res/226092.html#226391">>>226391</a><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('226398', event);" href="/mlpol/res/226092.html#226398">>>226398</a><br/><span class="quote">>israel israel israel</span><br/><span class="quote">>da joos da joos da joos</span><br/><br/>Want to know the final redpill? There is no grand Zionist conspiracy. There's no grand conspiracy at all; it's a bunch of small conspiracies, most of which have nothing to do with Israel or Zionism. Global politics in the 21st century work the same way they always have: everyone with any degree of power or influence is trying to pull things in a direction which favors them, and alliances form based on mutual interests. As ever, wealth and power matter to most of these players a lot more than ideology or race.<br/><br/>In the West, you have this weird neoliberal coalition that's risen to power since WWII, people like Merkel, Macron, Obama, etc. This basically has joined forces with the post-industrial corporate giants to work toward a borderless technocratic world where nations are essentially reduced to administrative bodies and humans are just interchangeable parts that can be moved around wherever they're needed (or not needed, as may be). Large companies like this arrangement because they can manufacture and sell whatever they want wherever they want with little constraint to their operation, while keeping labor costs as low as possible. The massive regulatory states and high taxes of Western nations strangle small and medium sized businesses that would otherwise be their competition; meanwhile, companies the size of Amazon can afford to pay high taxes and work around regulation. Large welfare states turn unwashed hordes of proles into the consumers that feed the beast; the fact that they are a grey formless mush of humanity with no culture or heritage doesn't particularly matter. Meanwhile the government bodies can expand bureaucracy indefinitely and hold on to power indefinitely by importing massive immigrant populations and giving them free money, which they turn around and spend on dumb consumer products from Amazon. Basically the worst parts of capitalism and the worst parts of communism have joined forces to create a political system that benefits huge companies and huge governments, and screws over every<span class="spoiler">pony</span> else. The proles don't even realize they're getting screwed, because the more gadgets and consumer crap they can afford to buy the more they feel like they're moving up in the world.<br/><br/>In the US, this has mostly been a project of the Democratic party, along with players in the tech, finance and media industries, with RINO Republicans either cooperating or offering weak opposition in exchange for a seat at the kiddie table. Trump is good because Trump has largely been a disruptive force that screwed this arrangement up. He pulled a hostile takeover of the Republican party by tapping into a white working class voter base that has been getting screwed over by the Democrat-big business alliance for decades, and is frustrated that the Republican-big business alliance is more interested in begging for scraps then standing up for them. I tend to agree with you guys in that I suspect he probably has no real principles or convictions, and that he mostly just saw an opportunity for power and took it. But that doesn't mean he isn't useful or that his presidency hasn't been a net gain for us. Thanks to Trump, conservatism is now in open revolt against leftism and globalism, and the country is being pulled violently in two directions. This is good; it's forcing normies to wake up and figure out which side they're on, for better or worse. If you're too dumb to figure out the positives here I'm not going to spoonfeed you.<br/><br/>In any event, Israel has nothing to do with any of this and frankly doesn't matter that much. Ironically, Israel is in more or less the same position as the US right now, with Palestinian mass immigration threatening to make Jews a minority in their own country. Netanyahu is actually a fairly conservative leader primarily concerned with the protection of his own people and state. Neither he nor Israel has anything in particular to gain from screwing over America or undermining our society, considering that we're the only significant world power that's on their side.<br/><br/>Personally, I don't give a shit about Israel. I think our alliance with them has mostly been a one-sided deal where they get protection and weapons and we get headaches and a bunch of their enemies. If I were in charge I'd cut them loose and tell them to fend for themselves. Unfortunately I'm not, so for the time being we're stuck with them. The Boomer generation grew up in the aftermath of WWII and all that "remember the six gorillion" bullshit. Boomers will never abandon Israel. Trump is a Boomer who pulled off a narrow victory by appealing to Boomer conservatives; of course he sucks Zionist cock. Who cares? He doesn't suck any more or any less of it than Cruz or Bush or Rubio would have done, but I guarantee you that if any of those guys had won we wouldn't even be having a conversation about race or immigration or border walls right now.<br/><br/>In yet another piece of irony, Zionism doesn't even matter to Jews anymore. One thing /pol/ is right about is that the global elite does indeed have a lot of Jews in it, but most of them are individualists who don't give a shit about anything besides grabbing shekels. Zionism was a 20th century project that mattered to Jews back when the world order was still more or less based on Westphalian nation states, and popular Jewish sentiment was that Jews should have a nation state of their own. It did also play a rather insidious behind the scenes role in both world wars. In the present day, though, most modern Jews of the sort we need to worry about have found that being a diaspora has its own advantages.<br/><br/>If you want to save Western civilization, stop getting all of your information from /pol/ infographics and start reading books. <span class="spoiler">protip: <i>Mein Kampf</i> and <i>Siege</i> don't count.</span>

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Anonymous
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>>226410
>>226422
>Trump has basically stated he'd going full cuck this election
Literally nothing in this article states or implies that. >>226413 is correct, it basically says the exact opposite: Trump is planning to focus on motivating his base to turn out rather than trying to win over new converts.

>swing voters are largely white men and women with at least a high school education but no college degree
Wrong again, retard. "Swing voters" are usually considered to be middle-middle to upper-middle class suburbanites. These people are usually college-educated, earn somewhere in the 60-100k range, are older, married, have families, and don't typically engage much in politics or current events. These are basically the college-educated, suburban, "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" soccer mom voters that the old Republican party considered the key part of its base. These people usually have only a vague understanding of the issues they're voting on, and mostly form their opinions based on the candidate's personal appeal. My Dad is basically one of these guys, and he was a Bush Republican who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 because Trump was too obnoxious and racist. Trump has correctly determined that reaching out to these voters would be a waste of time and resources.

>in 2016 Trump targeted people who don't vote regularly, ie working class whites.
You're half right here. What he targeted were disillusioned Republican voters who actually make up the majority of the Republican voter base. Boomers and Christians are part of this base. The divide Trump created in the GOP is similar to the one going on in the Democratic party right now, where the hard-left voters are increasingly rejecting the status quo that the party elites want to sell, which is basically globalism and corporatism. Elite Republicans, the ones who get praised for being "bipartisan", were basically pushing for the same thing. Trump saw the divide between voters and the party platform, saw that there was a demand that wasn't presently being filled, and took advantage of the situation. He's a businessman and he thinks like one. I've seen no evidence that he plans to change tactics for the 2020 election.

>Trump is jettisoning the working class and hoping to replace them with hispanics and blacks. that is the classic cuckservative strategy and it is always a loser.
This is pure conjecture. You have presented nothing to back up this claim, and the article you linked doesn't state this or even suggest it.

>I will never support more immigration (legal or illegal) nor will I ever support any infringements on 2A
If you feel that Trump has not adequately delivered in these areas to the point that you'd prefer a different candidate, I'd love to hear what viable alternative you've got in mind. Oh wait, you're just another armchair revolutionary complaining on the internet. You have no constructive ideas, only objections and angry rhetoric pieced together from /pol/ infographics. You probably feel that "white revolution is the only solution," but absolute best case scenario all you'll ever do is make the news cycle for a day or two as that guy who burst into a synagogue and fired randomly at some 80 year old Schlomos until his rifle jammed. Never mind.

>just look at Trump's immigration rhetoric in 2015 when he campaigned and look at where he's at now. he has completely adopted the GOP establishment line.
Ayyo, hol up. What you sayin is, a candidate running for public office in the United States, said something during his campaign that later turned out to be difficult to deliver on due to politics, and he's ending his first term in office without having completely 100% fulfilled every promise he made during the campaign? I have to say, I am speechless. I've never heard of such a thing happening in US politics before. I'm so disillusioned right now. You're right, I'm never voting again.
Anonymous
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No.226441
>>226439
>>226436
A whole lot of “this”es. I suspect I will need to get typing soon
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No.226451
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>>226336
>>226436
This two aren't gay.
Anonymous
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No.226457
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>>226436
thanks for just seeing Israel and da joos, and going full zionist kike damage control. maybe you should reread what I posted.
I said that Trump has a >90% approval rating in Israel for a reason. Trump has kept every single promise to Israel and will most likely start a war with Iran for Israel. Israel kvetches about Trump wanting to withdraw from Syria and lo he leaves troops behind.

I don't give a fuck about grand conspiracies but here's what I know. I know that Israel and the Jews always get what they want, no exceptions. I know that states have passed Israel loyalty laws and Florida has passed such ridiculous legislation that criticizing Jews for anything is basically a hate crime. that's reality and make of it what you will.

and all I want is what Trump promised in 2015. this lobby that magically gets what it wants stands directly opposed to what I want. in fact they so control my elected officials that I'm now supposed to support detestable shit like Trump's bold immigration plan for the 21st century. I'm crazy for calling out this obvious bias our political leaders have. I'm peddling crazy conspiracy theories that a foreign lobby exercises immense power over my nation and limits our own sovereignty.

yup I'm absolutely insane
Anonymous
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No.226462
226574
DLC_political_study_0.pdf
>>226439
Trump's 2016 base isn't exactly his base for 2020. evangelicals and establishment republicans support him a lot more now than they did. so knowing that his base is boomers and christcucks the article makes perfect sense.

here's a democratic study on swing votes and their need to reach out to them, if they want to win 2020, white HS educated. PDF included.

Trump absolutely targeted "low propensity voters" pundits and establishment strategists laugh at him, well he won so he was right.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-campaign-memo-unlikely-voters/

Trump's reversal on immigration isn't conjecture.
>Trump Abandons ‘America First’ Reforms: ‘We Need’ More Immigration to Grow Business Profits
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/06/trump-immigration-workers-more/
maybe you don't like breitbart from the Trump adminstration itself.
this abomination
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/president-trumps-bold-immigration-plan-21st-century/
or remember Trump's 4 pillars in 2017
DACA amnesty, I know he didn't call it amnesty but a path to citizenship is amnesty. when he ran in 2016 he promised deportation. sure deporting all of them probably wasn't going to happen but going from deportation to path way to citizenship is a complete betrayal. if I wanted that I would have vote for Jeb!
https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/four-pillars-the-trump-administration-immigration-plan

on immigration Trump has completely taken the establishment position. sure his tweets are tough but what he actually proposes is pure GOP cuckery and fuck him.

>you're just another armchair revolutionary complaining on the internet
>only objections and angry rhetoric pieced together from /pol/ infographics

you are half right, I am angry. I think I'm entitled to be angry. I vote for one thing get exactly what I voted against and now I'm told I have to support what I absolutely hate. so yeah I'm angry.
>alternatives
I think Trump has proven one thing, that there isn't a political solution. the system is too corrupt and broken. does that mean I'm going to do anything stupid? of course not contrary to what you think I'm not a revolutionary. I find it hilarious that you are painting me as some kind of violent Nazi because I'm not. not even stormfag tier.

the country is on a path to ruin. cuckservatism and liberalism are cancer. the social revolution of the 1960s is cancer. everything that came from it is cancer. if supporting that means saving Western Civilization than Western Civilization is already dead.

Anonymous
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No.226463
226466
>>226461
and yet you cannot refute anything I said. just slander, typical
Anonymous
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No.226464
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>>226457
>sentence 1 "I don't only care about the jews"
>sentence 2 JEWS: control trump
>paragraph 2 JEWS: control Florida
>paragraph 3 JEWS: control the US
>please call me insane [translation:comment was taken personally & jimmies confirmed rustled]

dear god this meme is so fucking real
Anonymous
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No.226465
226483 226534 226576
>>226464
>ridicule is man's most potent weapon
you see you absolutely do not address what I say because you cannot, so you ridicule

but let me explain
>sentence 1 "I don't only care about the jews"
if they didn't stand against what I stand for I actually wouldn't care about them. you don't hear me bitching about Palestinians or Iran. they could kill them all, I wouldn't care. but I do care when their influence stands against what I stand for.
>JEWS: control Florida
the governor actual had the fucking thing signed in Israel, oy vey
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2019/05/10/anti-semitism-bill-to-be-signed-in-israel-desantis-says/
>JEWS: control the US
well when IDK when merely criticizing a Jew is considered antisemitic, kind of makes you think they do.
>A Texas Elementary School Speech Pathologist Refused to Sign a Pro-Israel Oath, Now Mandatory in Many States — so She Lost Her Job
https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/israel-texas-anti-bds-law/

can you tell me any other foreign nation that is given such a position? pretty sure I've never had to sign an oath to any other nation. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, yup pure coincidence.

>please call me insane
I knew you would. you wouldn't actually address what i said, in good faith. it's typical pilpul. all of your criticism have just been ad homs but never actually address anything I say. you ridicule to minimize and deflect away from the subject.

please reply with some more ad hom because it's literally all you've got.
Anonymous
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No.226466
226469 226483
>>226463
but my point that your fixation on the jews consumes every corner of your world view still stands

YES, I did laugh right at your face, I have the balls to admit that. "yup I'm absolutely insane" "how typical" if you're going to insult people on the internet, passive-aggression is like yelling to the world "hey everyone, i'm a beta soyboy faggot" if you want to call someone an idiot on 4chan do it or don't, don't point yourself out as a beta
https://youtu.be/Hmoq9P6m3Z8?t=160

>I am claiming that you are jew obsessed and you continue to talk about jews
Anonymous
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No.226469
226471
>>226466
>jews consumes every corner of your world view still stands
Jews have outsizes influence and you absolutely cannot deny their influence, it's massive.

this massively influential group of people stand completely opposed to what I believe. they shill mass migration, they shill against 2A. how exactly is it unreasonable for me to point this out?

am I calling for them to be killed? nope, not a stormfag. the reason why I say I don't care about them is if they didn't work against stopping mass migration and were for 2A, I wouldn't have a problem with them.

yes you engaged in classic pilpul tactics. it doesn't matter if you call me a beta, gamma or whatever. it doesn't change the fact of anything I said, a point you still haven't addressed nor will ever because you can not.

so please toss me some more ad homs and completely ignore clearly visible facts.
Anonymous
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No.226471
226534
>>226469
I am not denying the influence of the Jews as a people. They are just as selfish as any other ethnicity. I just notice that other ethnicities are just as selfish, however they aren't always capable of equivalent influence. blacks would love to have influence like jews but can't because of their IQ and they're disorganized.

big gay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNXe4P_6dhw
Whether there are jews or not gays would demand their fetish be accepted because of their sexual desires. it's no surprise that immediately upon the surrender on christian influence on society that sexual depravity (a constant desire) would immediately emerge

coalitions in action: internet censorship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4hFcjnOHnk

jews are not one monolithic force, not every jew knows every other jew and not all jews are (religiously jewish)
Jews are the synagogue of satan and their damage lies in the spread of their hatred for Christ.
Jews ally with others in coalitions against good because those allies agree with them.

when a useful idiot tells you his lies, where is the jew behind him reminding him of the narrative. he believes every word he says, so do the journalists, so do the corperations

1. do you accept jews are one of many groups attacking America
2. what views/opinions do you hold that do not involve jews in any way (just out of curiosity)
Anonymous
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No.226476
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>>226436
I just DL'd a copy of Siege yesterday, and the first few bits of the opening section were absolutely hilarious to read. I might actually start a thread where I read through and give a play-by-play commentary on it.
Anonymous
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No.226483
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>>226436
>>226464
>>226466
I think you are overacting. >>226465 isn't spouting some spergy jewish conspiracy theories. He is citing evidenced instances of negative jewish influences. It stands to reason jews are an interest group out of many in the US and that they have their interests. When an anon points out something they are doing that is unfair or politically motivated you are being unreasonable to try and revoke what he is saying by describing it as a conspiracy theory.

I understand why you guys are defending Trump's "6d chess" moves and I realize he is working within a system but at the end of the day he is a politician. Politicians all play by the same rules. They virtue signal to target a certain group of voters and they change their positions based on how the wind blows. If he gets reelected that might change because then he won't worry about being reelected again. However acknowledging this shouldn't mean we can excuse criticizing Trump or his policies.

Anonymous
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No.226533
226534
>>226483
thank you anon. he wasn't discussing in good faith it was pure JIDF fuckery.
>>226381
I mentioned the Jews in one paragraph, explaining why people have a reasonable resentment towards the them. nothing nazi or insane about it.

the second post >>226391 was entirely about the racial caste system and how it's going to destroy America. allowing more non white immigration (legal or illegal) will just speed up this process. if I really wanted the destruction of ZOG I would want this process to be accelerated.
Jews are viewed as whites by non whites, the holocaust is nothing more than white folks killing white folks. isn't my opinion
>The Holocaust as ‘white on white crime’ and other signs of intellectual decay
http://archive.is/ds1N6
so with whites in America gone, Jews are fucked. Israel is completely fucked because its allies are only allies because of US bribes. nobody will stop the Turks or Iranians from completely wiping them off the map. once the EU goes into depression Jews will most likely not be welcomed there. Europe is already trending that way pre depression, imagine how it will be when it hits.
>WHAT IS EUROPE WITHOUT JEWS?
http://archive.is/SpMQp#selection-1695.1-1695.29

if I really wanted to wipe out the Jews I would be supporting multiculturalism, I would be supporting mass migration, further expand civil rights and blame whites as much as possible. however any time you mention something negative about (((them))) you get the usual ad hom attacks, the ridicule and the marginalization of the facts as something conspiratorial. it's how they operate. if they cannot dispute what you say, they will attack your character and slander you.

Anonymous
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No.226534
226570
>>226483
>It stands to reason jews are an interest group out of many in the US and that they have their interests
That’s what the guy you are responding to is arguing, that they are one out of many interest groups

He says “I am not denying the influence of the Jews as a people. They are just as selfish as any other ethnicity.” in >>226471

The guy in >>226465 explicitly says “kind of makes you think they do [control the U.S.].” He clearly thinks that Jews are something more than “one out of many interest groups”

>>226533
>Everyone who doesn’t agree is hired by the JIDF
Anonymous.
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No.226536
226562
>>226436
>Thanks to Trump, conservatism is now in open revolt against leftism and globalism, and the country is being pulled violently in two directions. This is good; it's forcing normies to wake up and figure out which side they're on, for better or worse. If you're too dumb to figure out the positives here I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

Good for accelerationism.

For the rest of your post however. I think you're just getting tired by the constant reminding about jewish influence.
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Full moon coming. – Full moon 25th
Undiscovered stars learned. – NXIVM
Missions forward.
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Anonymous
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>>226536

>>226436
>>Thanks to Trump, conservatism is now in open revolt against leftism and globalism, and the country is being pulled violently in two directions. This is good; it's forcing normies to wake up and figure out which side they're on, for better or worse. If you're too dumb to figure out the positives here I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

>Good for accelerationism.

The division is normal natural process that happens every 25 years as we cross the black lines (this time in 2014) in the 100 year cycle (pic1). We are doing Left Authoritarianism vs Right Authoritarianism currently. Armstrong calls the black line crossing the "cycle of war" (pic2). It is where we naturally and literally become divided every 25 years over either Left(emotions)/Right(logic) or Authoritarianism/Libertarianism.

Consciousness lives between 2 dualities. Emotions/mind and State/individual and we oscillate between all 4 poles fractally upwards into the whole culture.

In 20 years we will do Right extremism which will destroy the right and allow the wheel to turn away from it again, like WW2.
Anonymous
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No.226570
>>226534
>Everyone who doesn’t agree is hired by the JIDF
that isn't true. anyone can disagree but when someone refuses to address factual evidence, tries to minimize information as conspiracy and uses mainly ad hominem they are almost always a shill.

we can easily say Jews are one of many special interests groups. I believe their influence is massively overstated. this is entirely debatable. the difference is I'm not doing this

>LMAO you fucking faggot what you do think Jews run the fucking world. you brain washed fucking idiot. go eat shit zog puppet.
massive difference in actually discussing things, point/counter point. not all of us are going to agree, that's a given

Anonymous
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No.226574
226604
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>>226457
>>226462
I quoted both your post and >>226398, tbh the Jew stuff was mostly for that anon since he was ranting about it harder. I just wanted to kill two goys with one post, since I'm JIDF and all. It still applies to you anyway, since you go on to say:

>his lobby that magically gets what it wants stands directly opposed to what I want. in fact they so control my elected officials that I'm now supposed to support detestable shit like Trump's bold immigration plan for the 21st century. I'm crazy for calling out this obvious bias our political leaders have. I'm peddling crazy conspiracy theories that a foreign lobby exercises immense power over my nation and limits our own sovereignty.
See, right here you seem to be proving >>226464's point, in that you claim not to care about Jews, then go on to rant incoherently about Jews. As far as I can tell, this word salad seems to be >implying that the Israeli lobby is somehow behind Trump's immigration policy, which is false. It doesn't even make sense. If I'm wrong, feel free to elaborate on how I'm wrong.

>and all I want is what Trump promised in 2015
This actually seems like a good place to address your main concern, which seems to be that Trump has somehow reversed course or pulled some kind of bait and switch on immigration, which I also don't agree with. I've read through the whitehouse.gov statement on the "bold new plan for the 21st century" and by and large it's consistent with what he campaigned on. He wants to increase border security, curb illegal immigration, and change the focus of legal immigration so that it prioritizes skilled workers who speak English. Pretty much all of that was in his campaign platform. Is it ideal? No, of course not, but it is consistent with what he campaigned on, and more importantly it's a reasonable alternative to the Democratic plan, which is basically unfettered third world immigration. Politics, like life in general, is mostly a play it where it lays type of game, where you have to make the best moves available to you in whatever shitty situation you find yourself in.

Anyway, if you read his plan carefully, he actually makes some pretty shrewd moves here imo. This section in particular I think is quite clever:
>Increases diversity and equality.
>No matter where in the world someone is born or who their relatives are, if they want to become American, they should face the same standard as anyone else applying.
>The “Build America Visa” will use a clear, fair point-based criteria—one that prizes extraordinary achievement and potential to contribute to our Nation—to determine who should be issued a green card for permanent residence in the United States.

What this is basically saying is that the US can set a universal standard for the kind of people it wants to admit, and hold all applicants to the same standard. In the context of the rest of the plan, the emphasis will be on English-speakers with marketable skills who are not criminals. In practice, this standard already weeds most of the undesirables. A computer programmer from Norway who speaks English and has no criminal record will automatically score higher than some nigger from Somalia who only speaks clickity clack and has no plan other than to immediately get on welfare. What's clever about it is that it effectively rangebans the third world without explicitly using race or nationality as determining factors. Better yet, Trump throws the left's own language of diversity and equality back in its face by pointing out that he's giving everyone from everywhere fair and equal consideration.

My guess is, he learned his lesson from the so-called "Muslim ban" he tried to pull off at the beginning of his presidency. In that situation, he tried to explicitly stop immigration from specific majority Muslim countries, which made it easy for his enemies to call him racist and Islamophobic. All they had to do was send the issue to some Obama-appointed judge to get it squashed, after which all Trump could do was appeal. With this move, he's basically backing the Democrats into a corner where it is going to be harder and harder for them to object to his immigration proposals without flat-out admitting that what they really want is open borders and unfettered third world immigration.

>the social revolution of the 1960s is cancer. everything that came from it is cancer. if supporting that means saving Western Civilization than Western Civilization is already dead.
This is an interesting statement. Apart from some good music coming out of it, I agree that the cultural revolutions of the 1960s were cancer and led us to the unfortunate situation we currently find ourselves in. However, as far as saving Western civilization goes, all I suggested was that you should read some books; there's plenty of them out there that were written prior to 1960 if that's a concern for you.

>>226483
Trump isn't exempt from criticism and it's fine to have objections and debate the individual merits of his policies. However, what I'm trying to point out in this thread is that anons like the faggot I've been arguing with seem to be taking a self-defeating position, which is that Trump should be outright abandoned because he hasn't done everything we'd hoped he would. Right now, Trump is literally the best chance we've got and I think we should stay on this path and at least see where it goes, because we have no other real options and the alternative is worse. As I said before, you have to play it where it lays.

>>226476
Please do, I'd like to read it.
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No.226576
226604
>>226465
>That Intercept Article
You have probably never lived in Austin, so you can be forgiven for not understanding this. The BDS law is not pro-Israeli, it is against the insane Muslims that support BDS in Texas.

The Muslim community in Austin and in Texas that supports BDS will actively seek out and start fights with Israelis on state-owned property likes it's the Middle East, and acts extremely hostile to white conservatives. These are SJW extremists who damn near rioted when the Young Conservatives of UT Austin tried to have an "Affirmative Action bake sale" to mock Affirmative Action.

That "Speech Pathologist" is Bahia Amawi, a Muslim and probably of Palestinian origins. This Arab has 4 U.S. Citizen children.
>Amawi began working in 2009 on a contract basis with the Pflugerville Independent School District, which includes Austin, to provide assessments and support for school children from the county’s growing Arabic-speaking immigrant community
She's teaching Muslim immigrant children. Do you really want a member of some Muslim political group teaching the new generation of Musies? That's how you get shit like those muslim children in the Melbourne Schools chanting Jihadist phrases. Disguising an anti-muslim measure as a Pro-Israeli measure is one of the few ways to sneak such legislation by.
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No.226585
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142157838153895941
Anonymous
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>>226576
hmmm, me thinks it goes far beyond just a fuzzie muzzie https://www.texastribune.org/2019/05/09/Texas-anti-boycott-israel-law-greg-abbott-hb793/

>>226574
that's completely understandable. I don't see where he's kept to his immigration promises at all, except with refugees.
Trump ran on deportation and absolutely no amnesty. his 4 pillars immigration proposal in 2017 was all about giving DACA illegals a path to citizenship. that's absolutely unacceptable, that's the Gang of Eight amnesty bill.

he said he would end catch and release, yet ICE agents are basically a ferry service for the illegals coming up from central America. these migrants are being given H-2B visas, which basically make them illegal. Trump promised to crack down on unskilled labor but his administration is handing out work visas to these people. Trump has also doubled H-2A visas, Tom Cotton pointed out that before doubling it those jobs you go to unemployed American teens. as to the border crisis Trump has actually done very little. he refuses to take the steps he can take to curb it. Kris Kobach has explained on Fox several time things he could do such as. ending remittances and using fema trailers, actually ending catch and release.
it's pretty clear Trump plans to do nothing and is just succumbing to the farm lobby. his rhetoric does not match his deeds. it's all smoke and mirrors.

from my perspective he's already proven himself a liar, literally no different than any of the other cucks in the GOP. when I look at his bold immigration plan. it doesn't end chain migration. current only 12% of legal immigrants are skilled and his plan wants to raise that to 57%. Trump used to support the RAISE act, which was a strict points system completely based on merit. Trump reversal is exactly why senators Cotton and Hawley oppose Trump's new plan. the problem is I've seen all of this before from the GOP. it's always the same. the run on a hardline immigration but completely cuck the moment they get to Washington. Trump is no different. I didn't support it coming from the GOP establishment and I won't support it from Trump. for me the RAISE act is my compromise.

reading books won't save Western Civilization, however reading the classics is always beneficial. I think Europe might have a chance but America is on the brink of disaster. our racial caste system is going to cause it. you cannot change the ethnic majority of a nation within a few generations without severe consequences. I don't want America to fall which is why I'm legitimately angry with the President pushing the same cuckservative shit.

in reality his immigration plan is cancer. diversity isn't a good thing for political unity and social stability. diversity means division and thanks to the Civil Rights Act, that division is enshrined into law. I'm not saying banish all non whites, but Hispanics will never assimilate unless the invasion stops. assimilation is more than just wearing a baseball hat and waving an American flag. it's being absorbed into the ethnoracial culture of a nation. the US is fundamentally European and Christian. that doesn't mean we can't have minorities, they just have to stay minorities. the Civil Rights Act was perfectly fine when it applied to actual minorities.in 2033 non whites will be the majority and the nation is over.

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r4Bab
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No.226643
226655 226715
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>>226604
Didn't the Civil Rights Act helped this to happen?
>>226436
>>226457
I got to give my take on this or i'll seem like am dancing around.
Jews do have a disproportionate amount of influence and power you cannot deny that, i would believe that they do not really care about their tribe and are rather individualists, but they are very very protective towards Israel.
>>226436
"There are many reasons for our decay, but for the ones pushing it the hardest, yeah, it's the Jews."

About Trump, i don't know what to make of him, he has done nothing so radical that would get him killed, but on the other hand, the backlash it would cause his death would be enough to start handing out bullets.
Anonymous
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No.226655
226759
>>226643
>they are very very protective towards Israel.
they ought to be, it's their homeland. ethnomasochism is purely a neoWestern trait.


Anonymous
15SNr
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No.226715
226759
>>226643
what the Civil Rights act did was create a racial caste system. it does absolutely nothing to help integration, in fact it hinders it.

with the Civil Rights Act the government divided the country into 5 ethnoracial castes, the metric they use is the ethnoracial pentagon/hexagon. every group within afforded protections and privileges, except whites. so you have a system where it's actually more beneficial for non whites to maintain their group status and group rights. it's why someone can commit a racially based attack against whites and never be tried for a hate crime. however if a white were to fight a non white and utter a racial slur, you could potentially be charged with a hate crime.

it wasn't a terrible idea when they created it. it is perfectly reasonable to protect 13% of the population against 87% or help give advantages to the 13%. however with the 1965 immigration act and mass illegal immigration that changed. a non white migrant (legal/illegal) instantly has more rights than a white American the moment they are on US soil. in a pluralistic society the government choosing winners and loser solely based on race is a recipe for disaster.
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No.226759
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>>226655
I know, i was adressing the claim that they were individualistic and didn't care about Israel.
>>226715
>With the Civil Rights Act the government divided the country into 5 ethnoracial castes, the metric they use is the ethnoracial pentagon/hexagon. every group within afforded protections and privileges, except whites. so you have a system where it's actually more beneficial for non whites to maintain their group status and group rights. it's why someone can commit a racially based attack against whites and never be tried for a hate crime. however if a white were to fight a non white and utter a racial slur, you could potentially be charged with a hate crime.
>it wasn't a terrible idea when they created it.

Yeah i get it, it wasn't terrible, it was actually wonderful...only for minorities.
Anonymous
15SNr
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No.226811
226822
>>226759
>it was actually wonderful…only for minorities
that's until whites realize that they've been denied any identity. the moment they start demanding one, it's Rwanda tier genocide. in that case it won't really be wonderful for anybody.
Anonymous
15SNr
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No.226812
226874
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and like most Trump vows, he backs down. the public will forget in a couple of weeks.
this is why I absolutely hate Trump, these days. all talk.

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0RBgH
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No.226822
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>>226811
Hence the Civil Rights Act was actually terrible, nice one anon.
Anonymous
E4mAc
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No.226825
226836
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Anonymous
15SNr
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No.226836
226841
>>226825
that's nice if you care about tariffs and taxes, however on immigration Trump really isn't different from Jeb these days.

here are the actual choices we have on immigration
>democrats
open borders with muzzies
>GOP
open borders, no muzies BUT they complain about illegals(they do nothing but they complain). they actually shill for mass migration but unlike the democrats they want it legally.

since there isn't much difference on the only issues I care about I don't really seem much difference between the two.


Anonymous.
r4Bab
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No.226841
226849 226851
>>226836
This.
Should we pick the accelerationist path?
Anonymous
cH9UI
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No.226849
226851 226856
>>226841
No. We need to buy time so that we can form communities.
Anonymous
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No.226851
226856
>>226841
accelerationism isn't for me. I don't think it really matters though, I believe it's coming sooner than anybody realizes.
>Oregon Senate closes due to ‘possible militia threat’ after Republican walkout
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oregon-senate-closes-due-to-possible-militia-threat-after-republican-walkout

whenever it does happen be prepared for mass chicano refugees. I'm sure you'll love your cousins coming home.
>>226849
I think maybe 10 years max, but who knows anymore. if you're white in a large urban area it would be best to leave or at the very least know of a white small town you can go to. if you don't own a firearm now is a good time to buy one. you can get a .22 rilfe for $100, if you don't have a lot of money. ammo is cheap and it's easy to use. it's better than nothing.

who knows what will happen but I think it's safe to assume that urban areas will be chimp out zones.
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No.226856
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>>226851
haha, not your average mexicanon here.
>you can get a .22 rilfe for $100, if you don't have a lot of money.
Nice tip tho.
>>226849
Check the archived thread.

https://mlpol.net/mlpol/archive/res/196075.html
Anonymous
15SNr
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No.226857
>>226856
thanks for the link. yeah the mossberg 702 and savage 64f should be around $100. the great thing about 22s are that you can buy them in any state.
with the GOP and Trump complete failure on immigration or anything, I think we're going to see more armed resistance. that shit in Oregon isn't a fluke, I think it's the damn beginning to break.

Trump really fucked up. you cannot promise a lot of shit and deliver on none of it. there will be repercussions. God help us if he tries to push though some cucked gang of 8 style "compromise", the GOP will implode.
Anonymous
ASYSH
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No.226874
227048
>>226812
>and like most Trump vows, he backs down. the public will forget in a couple of weeks.
No, people are starting to lose faith. Virtually no one that I know believed him this time around.

Anonymous
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No.226876
227048 227058
>Nancy Pelosi called Donald Trump Friday night asking to call off ICE raids

>House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called President Donald Trump Friday night and asked him to call off the Immigration and Customs Enforcement deportation raids scheduled for Sunday, a source familiar with the call told CNN.
>Trump pulled back on the raids Saturday a matter of hours after he spoke in support of the coordinated arrests and deportations that were slated to hit 10 major cities. Trump announced via Twitter that he would delay for two weeks US raids to give Congress a chance to "get together and work out a solution" on the enforcement of his signature immigration policy.

>Trump and Pelosi spoke at 7:20 p.m. ET Friday night for about 12 minutes, according to the source. White House deputy press secretary Judd Deere confirmed a phone call took place Friday night between Trump and Pelosi.
>A senior Democratic aide said Trump is "trying to create leverage in a situation where he has none," adding that "it won't work."
"Democrats aren't going to compromise their values," the aide said. "He's walked away from several deals on immigration. We have no illusions here."
>"Democrats aren't going to compromise their values," the aide said. "He's walked away from several deals on immigration. We have no illusions here."

>Pelosi on Saturday pushed for Trump to halt the actions that would impact at least 2,000 migrant families. She called the planned raids "heartless" and a "brutal action which will tear families apart and inject terror into our communities."
>"These families are hard-working members of our communities and our country. The President's action makes no distinction between a status violation and committing a serious crime," Pelosi said in a statement.
>Earlier Saturday, Trump defended the raids via Twitter, arguing that the targeted families have been dodging the law.
>"The people that Ice will apprehend have already been ordered to be deported," Trump tweeted. "This means that they have run from the law and run from the courts. These are people that are supposed to go back to their home country. They broke the law by coming into the country, & now by staying."

>Trump later characterized his delay of the raids as a concession to Democrats in pursuit of a bipartisan immigration agreement.
>"At the request of Democrats, I have delayed the Illegal Immigration Removal Process (Deportation) for two weeks to see if the Democrats and Republicans can get together and work out a solution to the Asylum and Loophole problems at the Southern Border,'" Trump tweeted. "If not, Deportations start!"
http://archive.is/ivMQE
Anonymous
15SNr
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No.227048
>>226874
I hope so but the Qtards and Jonestien folks will never. Jones is shilling the blame on Trump's DHS director. he sabotaged the raids. it's all bullshit. I am absolutely sick of his bullshit, I'm glad people are finally waking up to it. it isn't just him it's the GOP. we need to rid ourselves of bullshit Straussian conservatism. dump shitholes like the Heritage Foundation and the Manhattan Institute. until that cancer is removed, the right will always be sabotaged from within.
>>226876
the democrats are only half right. he isn't trying to leverage them, he's trying to leverage his base. watch Trump try to shill a Gang of 8 amnesty style bill.
>if you think it's bad now, just imagine how bad it will be with the democrats. it's a great deal, I make great deals trust me.
if you'll notice Trump has been trying to shift the GOP back to a more cuckservative position on immigration. from being totally opposed to amnesty, to accepting DACA illegals.
>but Trump says that's not amnesty
from a build beautiful wall and it's not a fence Jeb! to security barriers and fences.

in everything Trump has done he's been using the democrats to steer the GOP into a more cucked position. fuck it and fuck him

Anonymous
Cvw90
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No.227058
227121
>>226876
Fucking shit. Wtf would he call off the raids? Every second those shitskins stay in this country gives them another chance to breed our demographics into oblivion.
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nAgXi
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No.227077
>>226096
I don't think that's how mass deportation works spaghetti nabber.
'A few thousand,' ah a few thousand and there's no other cause effect, okay clueless.
Anonymous
hHuKO
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No.227121
>>227058
Another "comprehensive immigration reform" which means "let the beaners stay, do nothing about the border."

$4.5 Billion Immigration Detention Bill Passed
Anonymous
wc0rg
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No.227315
For those who didn't understand the play here, here it is:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-passes-4-5-billion-border-funding-bill-live-updates-today-2019-06-25/
$4.5 Billion for more detention space for illegals. It's framed as "improving the conditions for detained migrants" because it has to get past the House somehow, and because detention center overcrowding isn't really good for anyone
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