/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

I found this: https://pastebin.com/XjteDsMm but there's not really anything definitive in the posts archived, I need proof that a normie would be able to understand

>>91217
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>Fusion GPS was paid $1,024,408 by a DNC law firm, funded in part by Hillary Clinton and the DNC, to create the salacious 34 page dossier.
>Fusion paid former British spy Christopher Steele $168,000 to assemble the document (which had the cooperation of two senior Kremlin officials).
>Clinton campaign manager John Podesta met with Fusion CEO Glenn Simpson the day after the 34 page dossier was made public.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-22/dirty-dossier-firm-unsealed-fusion-gps-bank-records-reveal-523k-payment-russian-mone

I do have a vague recollection of claims it came from 4chan, Christopher Steele is probably a lead for this. There was also back then "copies" of the dossier which just looked like someone typed up stuff. The link above has a large amount of links to follow through on.

>>91226
zerohedge, and iBankCoin.com for that matter, aren't exactly viewed as legitimate sources I'm looking to prove this to someone who isn't redpilled

It was all a haze and I remember it having to do with tv host that said 4channers jerked off to anime, then it rolled from there. I remember this video being the best summary I knew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEH5xDQ_wY
I know, >eceleb
>>91228
The article about it was produced by Buzzfeed. Not a reliable source in its own right, and later it was condemned live in press on one of Trump's first addresses.

>>91229
I can't find the christmas 2010 in moscow part in the report, or the "I hate black people" part. I get that /pol/lacks trolled people after it came out but that stuff doesn't seem to be in the actual report: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

the best I've found so far is this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/01/13/the-trump-dossier-is-false-news-and-heres-why/#56ad5d5c6867 but he doesn't cite much beyond his own experience with russia, he points out the claims are absurd and unverifiable but that's it.

>>91233
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/01/10/buzzfeeds-ridiculous-rationale-for-publishing-the-trump-russia-dossier/?utm_term=.273cc9b4b5be
This could work. It's very norm-y.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html
The best you get is saying that it is completely unsubstantiated .

How do you prove a negative?

>Proving a negative
>A negative claim is a colloquialism for an affirmative claim that asserts the non-existence or exclusion of something.[13] Saying "You cannot prove a negative" is a pseudologic because there are many proofs that substantiate negative claims in mathematics, science, and economics including Arrow's impossibility theorem. There can be multiple claims within a debate. Nevertheless, whoever makes a claim carries the burden of proof regardless of positive or negative content in the claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#Proving_a_negative

>>91237
I remember trumps lawyer cohen claims his mention in the dossier is fake as he's never been to prague so he couldn't have gone there for a meeting, but I can't find where he showed his passport and stuff

>>91237
https://twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/818991277685567489?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F01%2F12%2Ftrump-attorney-cohen-on-intelligence-dossier-ive-never-been-to-prague-and-ive-never-been-to-russia.html
found this but does just the front of the passport prove anything?

Do they trust CNN?

>Cohen has said previously that he traveled last summer to Italy, which is in the European Union. His passport indicates he arrived in Italy on July 9 and departed on July 17, according to a BuzzFeed review of his passport stamps.

>The dossier alleged that Cohen went to Prague in late August 2016 or possibly early September to meet Russian officials. Cohen has pushed back on these still-unsubstantiated claims, saying that he was in California at the time. Earlier this year, he told The Atlantic he was in California from August 23 to 29, visiting the University of Southern California with his son.

Of course CNN has to spin doubt whilst showing lack of evidence:

>However, the lack of a stamp on Cohen's passport, does not preclude the possibility that he entered the Czech Republic.

But then completely fail to show he entered the EU at all in the time frame of the dossier.

https://archive.fo/BDHPX

>>91217
>proving a negative
That's not how things work. You need to prove that it's real.

>>91229
Kek, I don't know what's funnier: the hilariously over-the-top dossier or the fact that Ramsey Paul is actually a brony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLg8OMXjo2k
I think I'll sub to his channel. For all we know he already browses this board.

>>91267
>That fluttershy vinyl
That's amazing

I remember hearing some CIA wannabe was involved in this somehow. He worked in the CIA for a while but accomplished very little, probably nothing, then left and wrote a shitty book full of lies. He desperately wanted to be seen as a badass by the public, so he was the one the pissgate dossier was "Leaked to".