>jail Le Pen
>Catalonia is literally crying to liberate "politcal prisoners" while the French gov't wants to take Le Pen as one literally
Putting Le Pen under the spotlight is only going to be in her favour. It can be used in the right way, and can lead to a growing discontent with Europe's censorship laws.
In America, it's becoming a crime to win
It's like they believe that there should only be one (((proper))) ruling class.
Cut this fucking blackpill pessimism the fuck out. It's tainting your worldview and the both of you couldn't be further from the truth.
We're not seeing it become a crime for conservatives to win or run in elections. If that were the case, then there would be actual new laws being put in place to further bind conservatives. Instead we're seeing the opposite taking place. ICE has been taken off their leash. Sanctuary cities are on the verge of losing federal funds. Immigration policies are shifting back towards merit based instead of filling out diversity quotas.
In the case of Roy Moore, what you're seeing is Swamp and their lapdogs in the media propagating baseless claims because they're losing like crazy and they have no better plays to make. They're throwing shit at the wall and PRAYING that something sticks. We're seeing Trump stacking the courts with conservative judges. We're seeing the Swamp freaking the fuck out because Hillary was supposed to win and this fucking bitch on the supreme court probably won't keep living through the duration of Trump's presidency.
We've got a lot of work to do on a global scale, but we're winning on the US front.
Whoever runs in america, the population looses. It's always a different side of the same coin, democrat or republican. One's a jew controlled capitalist progressive and the other's a jew controlled capitalist conservative. That's why everyone tried so hard to keep Trump out, because he's a variable they can't really control. He doesn't even listen to his own staff. Even then though, congress keeps him in check and keeps enacting the globalist agenda.
Anyways, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if people actively started suppressing political parties. Countries have been doing this for decades, from the nazi party to communists, so to have democracy turn around and do exactly the same thing (which they already have been in europe) wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Democracy is just another facade for control.
This. The ruling elite always react with force when the tides turn against them. Yet the more they suppress the opposition, the more credence it gains in the eyes of the people. For only truth can triumph in a free and open discussion. If they jail Le Pen the backlash would be huge.>>87790
Which is why the government, MSM, and all who support them should be undermined wherever possible. Not only are these groups responsible for abhorrent evil and enemies of liberty, but as long as democracy appears to function they will use it as a stumbling-block to reform. Since voting acts as a pressure valve for political dissatisfaction the Deep State can and will subvert any gradual changes to further their reach of power.
it's almost as if they never wanted the citizens to have anything more than an illusion of control
honestly the fact that so many politicians and media people don't like trump is one of the main reasons why I voted for him
On a related note, Macron has cemented power with a government & parliament with few checks & balances in France whereas Merkel leads her role as Chancellor almost without a flinch again in a bid that will last 16 years in Germany. I have made the conclusion long ago that Germany is bad at democracy, but now I'm starting to think that applies to the whole of Europe.
>>87792>Which is why the government, MSM, and all who support them should be undermined wherever possible.
One small way we can undermine them is to stop calling them the MAINSTREAM media. They've been falling out of mainstream for years and newspapers are basically kept afloat not by subscriptions and paper sales but instead by huge donations from wealthy patrons.
At the very least just stop using the term MAINSTREAM when referring to them. LEGACY media is more apt, especially in regards to printed press, or simply just the media if you wish.
It's not much but words have power. Shifting perception towards them being yesterday's news may sap them of some of their influence.
democracy itself is just a terrible idea, we need to get back to proper republics
For one, how would you define a republic? In the same sense, repbulics can fall to the same problems. France for example is a "republic" and so is America. Some proper structuring is needed, not just the principle of one concept over another.
Both forms of government are run by imperfect human beings and will inevitably be corrupted. Republics are supposedly meritocratic by having capable statesmen represent their people, but in reality the politicians mislead the people while acting as a de facto aristocracy. Direct democracy prevents power concentration in the hands of a few individuals, but masses of people are ignorant in politics and vote according to emotion.
Both systems in their own ways have enabled some reclamation from depravity: BREXIT stopped the European elite dead in their tracks and Switzerland, while no utopia, is the freest country in Europe; on the other hand, the electoral system in America impedes brainwashed hive-cities from running roughshod over the country. However, we should realize that these are merely reactions against the creeping tyranny that has already ensnared the West.
One of the most bitter redpills to take is that no matter how noble or innovative a government you place over yourself, it can and will turn against you and everything you hold dear.
>>87978>One of the most bitter redpills to take is that no matter how noble or innovative a government you place over yourself, it can and will turn against you and everything you hold dear.
Hello, Friend. Are you me?
It depends, Buddy. Am I you?
This is a deeply philosophical question. I'll have to ponder it. Are we not all one?
I can't decide which way to go with that.
Nevermind, it was a shitpost
Duly noted. Which is a fact among all walks of life. Take it from your Armstrong Economic Confidence Model, to Spangler's cyclism, add Heaven's mandate, and even paganism, hinduism, and tengrism. But, I will say that there's room for securing posterity. Take Heaven's Mandate in regard in which dynasties reigned for centuries. Indeed, they fall, but after all their existence, like we, are only temporary. So, our efforts should be towards for what we see for the present is right, then hope for the best of the future. This segment of civilisation will lead to the next, and although I expect as much terror as there will be good, I am comfortable knowing it will be this way. Tyranny itself is apart of the cycle, thus it may be noted that tyranny is not always the end. And, maybe there may be outliers like technology, however there are cycles of innovation. Infinity is after all only a loop.
I was implying I was in two minds ;)
a repulic is when a specific group of people, i.e. landowners, elect representatives to run their government. the problem with modern day france and america is that they've become democratic republics after any number of suffrage movements. Most people won't bother to vote and the percentage that do can be easily manipulated due to their strong investment in their own political beliefs. Also it's easier for them to cheat and fix the results because it's impossible for anyone to gauge such thing given millions of votes
And, if so. How would you structure a republic to fit the needs of the modern day? Nobilility for example could be as easily as corrupt, and were a remnant of the feudal age, which meant they often stifled innovation. My position was not in support of democracy, but that the principle of the republic can be as empty as the principle of democracy. The senate after all plagued Caesar's decisions, but had some would rather have the senate than Caesar. Careful thoughts, anon.>>88014
Stop being inside of people! That's lewd…
Changing political processes doesn't change the basic nature of humans. But since we think it will we keep circling through ideologies.
You think they will come for the rest of the party?
Unlikely. They've been trying to charge with this since May. She could either ge a fine or imprisoned. Le Pen is only being investigated, and she deleted the tweet she made.