/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

more importantly, how much of south America is actually white? like european white from spain, which is already setting the bar extremely low

>>86098
Racial constitution varies wildly from one country to another though, because of historical reasons: that's why, the most you go to the north, the most likely you'll find negros and mulatos. Particularly in Colombia and Venezuela. Climate also helps in that. Warmer climates of Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador and Brazil leads different people residing those places than colder climates of Argentinian and Chilean patagonia.

Brazil and Argentina, due to their closeness to the Atlantic Ocean, had more European migration. Colombia and Venezuela has more negros and mulatos due their climate and the fact they were good lands for sugarcane plantations. Peru and Bolivia have, in proportion, the most indigenous people; however Peru has had an important number of Japanese immigrants. Argentina has seen an important number of European migrants, mainly Italian, Spanish and German.

Chile had some important immigrant nuclei in Punta Arenas (adjacent to the Magellan Strait) and Valparaíso, as they were checkpoints to navigate from Europe to the Pacific Ocean before the Panama Canal. Valparaíso had lots of British and French migrants. In the mid 1800s, plans to populate Chilean south (from Concepción to Puerto Montt) involved bringing in Germans that were escaping Franco-Prussian war.

>>86102
so there's hope, but obviously this is a problem that needs to be fixed. Outside of Asians and a few exceptions we can't suffer any non-whites existence for much longer

I come to revive this thread, because the Chilean elections happened a couple of days before, highlighting a series of threats and opportunities the Right wing has in Chile for the foreseeable future.

As many should know, we're in a state of a deep political transformation, as the parties formed right after Pinochet's government are showing signs of old because mainly of corruption cases and highly concentrated wealth, with new actors like Frente Amplio grouping a bunch of newly formed left parties and Evópoli, of liberal right.

Currently these new parties are conviving with Nueva Mayoría (grouping the oldest left wing parties like the Socialist, Radical-Socialdemocrat and Communist party, altogether, for some reason, with the Christian Democrats) and Chile Vamos (grouping two parties of center-right, the liberal Renovación Nacional and the neocon UDI)

Frente Amplio can be described as the most immediate threat for the local right wing, as it's formed mostly by hardcore leftists that follow progressive agendas (supported widely by the #NiUnaMenos feminists and local LGBT movements), students that strive to keep and widen Gratuity in college careers, abortion laws and homosexual marriage. They share many characteristics with the American NeverTrumpers, including their stubbornness, their virtue signaling and moral smugness, just adapted locally. When everything is a race problem there, it's a problem with Pinochet's legacy here or "historic demands of the Mapuche people".

Frente Amplio's presidency candidate, Beatriz Sánchez, got a whopping 20% of votes, double of what most optimist polls said; besides of earning a sizeable amount of seats in the Congress.

>>89783
I really need to work on my spanish and history

>>89883
Ask anything about Chile or what I know of Argentina.

>>90938
How is Chile anyway? I hear it is a very democratic nation with a lot of economic freedoms. I need to know for sure, as it is on my list of bug out locations if the US goes to shit.

>>90968
These elections revealed a huge portion of Millenials are infected with the SJW/Communist/Progressive virus, more or less in the same proportion than the USA, mainly represented by a left wing conglomerate: Frente Amplio.

We are going to elect President the 19th, and our two options are Alejandro Guillier, a Journalist that acts as a placeholder for the Communist and Radical Party (which will govern with a mix of Justin Trudeau and Bernie Sanders flavor Frente Amplio like oh-so-much with a touch of Allende's and Maduro's classic marxism, with some very shady links with drug lords); and Sebastián Piñera, a stock market speculator, which fakes as a right wing politician while "fixing" the economy the Keynesian way (comparable to Hillary Clinton if she had a bunch of neocons to leverage her decisions a litle bit). Both things aren't good, but the latter is, evidently, the lesser bad.

We are exiting a highly ideologized left wing government presided by Michelle Bachelet, a girl raised in the Democratic German Republic and lobbied to have Margot and Erich Honecker to live their last years in Chilean soil. She's now pushing hard progressive agendas before returning back to her seat in the UN.

Things don't look good for Chile for having this huge amount of radical leftists seeking to rewrite how market works here and even the Constitution. And guess what, Soros has his money here too!

For some fun, have a video of a Frente Amplio guy trying to steal a box full of presidential votes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4HyIaUob_w

>>91061
Pinochet is watching from Heaven, he won't Chile go under for long. Keep your family in one hand and a rifle in another.

>>91071
May history ultimately prove Pinochet right. Fortunately armed forces hate communists, and they won't support a communist regime ever, as they and Concertación have done everything in their power to punish everybody with any relationship with Pinochet; however public consensus in Chile and around the world is to hate him and the armed forces.

We have been very ungrateful towards them. However the 8% (about half a million) of votes José Antonio Kast got (with a Putin-like government program, economically libertarian, morally conservative and Alt-right friendly) is a silver lining for this country, going completely alone, with no party support, with both the neocons and the left wing against him. Expect more people to join the bandwagon the next years, as political scenario will force any moderates to take sides, just like in the USA.

>>91101
Interesting. Tell me more.

>>91116
But ask me more

Do you know much about the plebiscite? Was the No camp really suppressed by the state or was it all whining?

Is Pinochet's spirit still alive in chile, or are you all alone?

… That shows how much I know about present-day Chilean politics.

Where I live, any positive aspect of dictatorship is a thought-crime, I suppose that's not the case in Chile.

Since you are still able to publically defend Pinochet in Chile (I hear Mr. Kast has done so, but I can't find a translated transcript or even when it happened), aren't you actually in a great position copared with the western world? You're still within the overton window, so you can have meaningful discussion about it, no?

Another thing I'm wondering about is your economy. Not so much wondering as sitting in disbelief.

The export price of copper dropping caused everything else to collapse with it? I'm not a big believer in export as economic policy, raw resources even less so, and you have copper of all things. Copper is ridiculously easy to exploit, you should be able to build a national economy around it.
Additionally you have agriculture falling into neglect.
>Historically agriculture is one of the bases of Chile's economy, now agriculture and allied sectors–like forestry, logging, and fishing–account for only 4.9% of the GDP as of 2007 and employed 13.6% of the country's labour force.
I would think this to mean that you're not dependant on importing foodstuffs, or at least you wouldn't have to be. Basically, you have plenty of natural resources and a low population density on top of that.

As far as I've read, you have literally no reason to go into recession because of international copper prices. With what you have in Chile and a bit of spirit you could build el primer imperio sudamericano. Don't let the international hyenas exploit it for you and you for it.

Raw resources require a lot of workers, but it's not an industry to grow your economy with because exports of raw materials literally depend of being impoverished compared to where you're exporting to, wage-wise. You're already producing some copper products, but for some reason you seem content with just selling the raw stuff. Copper is versatile, easy to work, and has tons of alloys, put that to use for your own people foremost. Most of your imports seem to be finished goods for the consumer market, whatever of that you can produce locally using your own resources will make your economic position stronger.

I don't think muh market economics will fix this, because Chile is not a high-value market to extranationals, shipping is cheap enough they can set up their factories basically anywhere, and apperantly Chilean wages aren't globally competetive. You need to convince ponies that selling off your metal overseas, although they will pay more than Chileans could, won't maximise the Chilean economy on any term longer than a year.

Well, it's easy talking from the opposing temperate zone. It's just that I can't find translations of your parties' economic policies.

>>86103
I don't know
The latino race was always very fertile.
Maybe if we could aislate the chromosome, the white race would be secure, regardless of any problem

>>91421
>Since you are still able to publically defend Pinochet in Chile
You get publically shamed to do so by an important part of the population by doing so though. Not at a level to be a Nazi symphatizer in Europe, but at a level akin to be a Trump supporter in California, to make yourself an idea. It's not outlawed to display such opinions… yet. They have tried to approve Hate Speech laws, including Internet surveillance and having your ISP to store your Internet metadata by 2 years by law, granting the Government privileged access to it; with little to no visible opposition, even from the Neocons (UDI) who used to support Pinochet.

The thing is many of the machinery of the left (elections, propaganda, it's movements and actions) are centered around 'reivindications', and 'Ni perdon ni olvido' (Not forgiveness nor forgetfulness); so they fuel their rhetoric in bringing periodically the Pinochet regime onto the table, in a similar way as they do in Spain with Franco.

>The export price of copper dropping caused everything else to collapse with it?
The copper price is projected to rise in the close future. But awful future deals and corruption in Codelco (state-run copper extraction and processing industry) make it unprofitable to pay for the increasing welfare state. So much that one of Codelco's chairmen had said last year "No tenemos ni un puto peso" (we haven't got a single fucking dime) in regards to Codelco's profit for that year.
https://archive.fo/pAnUB

Lithium is another issue. There are lots of shady businesses made by government and people close to it for lithium extraction rights, in exchange for political party financement (read SQM case)

>Additionally you have agriculture falling into neglect.
I have not read too much in that matter. As far as I know fruit and cattle production have no reason to fall. Wood industry however, might have had their business affected by big fires every summer in the wood producing zone, besides of lack of sustainability plans to avoid drying and acidify the soil, and systematic burns of trucks in the Araucanía region.

However, our Central Bank is independent from the State and this has keeping us from printing money like crazy to pay for the increasing welfare state.

>You're already producing some copper products, but for some reason you seem content with just selling the raw stuff.
I blame our lack of long-term investors. Most people with money to make big investments here don't like to invest in something that won't profit in a very short term. Extracting industry gives you money more quickly.
I also blame our geographic location. By manufacturing copper products we would compete with China, which, by being in the North Hemisphere, has closer access to a much greater market than us, limited to Latin America, the Antarctica and with some luck, Australia and New Zealand.

>It's just that I can't find translations of your parties' economic policies.
Concertación (from Aylwin to Lagos period) has kept in line by having Chile being an economically open country. They increased the welfare state in some degree though and were corrupt as fuck. Piñera was the poster guy of Keynesianism, somewhat justified because we had a huge earthquake that affected most populated cities in Chile at the beginning of 2010. And Bachelet that just roleplayed as Angela Merkel.

Chile election: Piñera elected president
>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42388019
Better than the marxists right?

>>96338
Yes. It's an improvement compared to Guillier and the current President. However I doubt he's willing to take bold decisions the Zeitgeist requires, considering the center-left political block is basically destroyed, leaving a big center-right/liberal (and sometimes left-friendly) block that is Chile Vamos, a big hard left wing/marxist-progressive block that is Frente Amplio (which Communist Party will pledge on) and a small but promising right/libertarian group which is not represented by any political parties yet.

Chile Vamos now has half of the Legislative power and the Executive power; but Frente Amplio will do anything and everything on their power to make their opposition's life impossible, in the shape of endless strikes, such as lots of other things as you would expect of #NeverTrumper's wannabes.

What countries in South America are worth immigrating to? (if any)

>>98257
Frankly any country that isn't Colombia, Venezuela, Paraguay or Bolivia is good enough, as long as you aren't stupid enough to go to dangerous zones. It's really comfy once you get used to the language and the fact we Latin Americans are bad for planning on long term, but exceptionally good at hotfixing things.

>>98257
Come to argentina
It's like a 2nd-hand US mixed with Europe, Perú, China, Uruguay, Israel, etc
It's crazy, it's like the whole world choose this country to mix everything with everybody