Starlight Glimmer is a bad character.
I could write a good few thousand words on Glimmer as a villain, but the issue isn't what a dumb villain Starlight is, and how her terrible backstory turned what could have been a great villain into a bad joke almost as much as a badly-written and rushed redemption removed her reason to exist in the show's setting. I could also write quite a bit about how stupid it is that she has the magical power to fight Alicorn Princess Twilight Sparkle to a standstill, the reserves to do this multiple times in a day, the knowledge to create her own spells on the spot, and so on when Twilight's supposed to be the Embodiment of the Element of Magic, a student of Princess Celestia, the strongest Unicorn alive, etc. Twilight had to face character challenges related to this. What are they worth if she's not the strongest, or even anything remotely special when compared to a pony that can tear the Cutie Marks off multiple ponies like they're stickers, screw up the timeline multiple times in a day, without the changed timeline affecting herself, fight Alicorn Princess Twilight Sparkle to a standstill multiple times in a day, brainwash the minds of five of the Mane Six in less than a few seconds, move five billion times faster than the speed of light, and slay fire demons with her magic burning katana- whoops, my eyes drifted to the feat list for the wrong Mary Sue.
Glimmer... This post-redemption Glimmer? There's a reason why so many new episodes keep giving her more and more connections to canon characters and OCs.
Take away her friendship with Trixie, her edgy best friend there to make her look better.
Take away the headcanons her fans have invented for her, like the belief that she was bullied by her family or hometown for not being good enough once Sunburst was gone, or that she loves Moths because they remind her of herself: "Unloved by most but beautiful in its own way". (Christ, I could barely type that dreck without throwing up)
Take away her acts as a villain.
Focus on what she is, right now. What is she, besides a second-rate bootleg Sunset Shimmer? Say what you will about what an idiot she was in the clusterfuck that was the first film, back when she was a villain, and feel free to miss some more points while you're at it. We're talking about post-redemption Shimmer, and how she relates to post-redemption Glimglam. Shimmer got scenes where she actually tried to earn redemption, got bullied by people that didn't forgive her, earned their forgiveness, etc. She wasn't just given forgiveness.
Glimmer was instantly given forgiveness, brainwashed her friends when their free thought and better ideas on HANGING OUT triggered her, was given forgiveness again, and then complained to Trixie that not everypony immediately forgave her for being the worst criminal currently known to Ponykind, arguably bar Tirek, because some offscreen ponies didn't love her enough. In Pony Humans: Camp Superhero Edition, Shimmer encouraged Twilight and helped her and had more than one scene where she displayed empathy and likability. What positive traits has Glimmer shown, besides the occasional scene where she akwardly fucks up something obvious like "Don't run away from an awkward situation like you just shot someone" or "Don't use brainwashing spells on your friends", endearing her to her socially-retarded potentially-mentally-retarded fantards?
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Lauren Faust designed the original Mane Six to, in her words, "Represent the different ways that one can be feminine", and she wanted each one to be a good role model in their own way. I'm pretty sure being a sociopathic cult leader that feels no remorse for your crimes unless prompted by the reactions of those you want to forgive you... is not what Lauren Faust would consider a good role model. Feel free to say "Well she was forgiven for all crimes, so that means she represents forgiveness and is a role model that says forgiveness is good". You'll look retarded, sure, but you'll also look retarded. Feel free to say "Lauren Faust doesn't run this show any more. This is Vogel and Jim 'Fuck the bronies, we make this show for little girls' Miller's show, deal with it! If they think it's good enough, so do I". You'll look retarded, sure, but you'll also look retarded. Feel free to say "You don't like Glimmer so you aren't qualified to talk about Glimmer". You'll look retarded, sure, but you'll also look retarded.
Pic is there to keep the glimmerniggers away, because they are all underage retards too stupid to understand why "She's a good guy now, so stop criticizing her redemption arc and stop saying she didn't have one!" isn't an argument.
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>>51267
Anon, you simply dont introduce a new main character this late in the life cycle of a series.
Anon, you simply dont introduce a new main character this late in the life cycle of a series.
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>>51279
Too late, Glimmer and her writers have permanently reduced Trixie to little more than her "Dark contrast", her Bloo, the edgy best friend kept around to make the "Hero" look better in comparison. Trixie's there to help Glimmer fuck up and suggest cowardly things like running away and lying when Glimmer wonders how she can fix the problem of the week.
Trixie could have been an interesting foil to Twilight. A travelling homeless circus performer pretending to have great power, compared to a raised-to-be-great Princess with great power? Plenty of opportunity for depth there. But Glimmer is the show's new main character and nobody is allowed to outshine her in any way unless it's one of Glimmiller's new OCs. Trixie is there so Glimmerniggers can go "See? They used to be evil but now they're good guys!", and so Glimmer has someone to whine to about how much it sucks that some offscreen ponies don't 100% love you. All of Trixie's potential is permanently gone, because all of that potential was thrown away for making her more interesting than Glimmy. She's nothing more than Glimmer's bratty best friend now, and that's all she'll be until Glimmer dies, goes offscreen and never comes back, or an heros herself for the greater good.
Even shippings aren't safe from Miller's rewrite rampage, the rampage he can finally go on now that he's replaced everyone who ever told him no. Remember Cheerimac? Fluttermac? Twimac? I'm no fan of those pairings, but I'm not petty enough to write a fanfic where they're all retgone'd and Big Mac gets his "First ever crush" on the fucking Bootleg Pinkie Pie he has no way of seeing, meeting, knowing, or liking.
Remember that episode where Fluttershy's dream was suddenly to run an animal shelter, even though her home has been an animal shelter since day one, and the moral of the story was "If you're having creative differences, you should replace everyone who's ever gotten in the way of getting what you want"? Real mature, Miller.
Too late, Glimmer and her writers have permanently reduced Trixie to little more than her "Dark contrast", her Bloo, the edgy best friend kept around to make the "Hero" look better in comparison. Trixie's there to help Glimmer fuck up and suggest cowardly things like running away and lying when Glimmer wonders how she can fix the problem of the week.
Trixie could have been an interesting foil to Twilight. A travelling homeless circus performer pretending to have great power, compared to a raised-to-be-great Princess with great power? Plenty of opportunity for depth there. But Glimmer is the show's new main character and nobody is allowed to outshine her in any way unless it's one of Glimmiller's new OCs. Trixie is there so Glimmerniggers can go "See? They used to be evil but now they're good guys!", and so Glimmer has someone to whine to about how much it sucks that some offscreen ponies don't 100% love you. All of Trixie's potential is permanently gone, because all of that potential was thrown away for making her more interesting than Glimmy. She's nothing more than Glimmer's bratty best friend now, and that's all she'll be until Glimmer dies, goes offscreen and never comes back, or an heros herself for the greater good.
Even shippings aren't safe from Miller's rewrite rampage, the rampage he can finally go on now that he's replaced everyone who ever told him no. Remember Cheerimac? Fluttermac? Twimac? I'm no fan of those pairings, but I'm not petty enough to write a fanfic where they're all retgone'd and Big Mac gets his "First ever crush" on the fucking Bootleg Pinkie Pie he has no way of seeing, meeting, knowing, or liking.
Remember that episode where Fluttershy's dream was suddenly to run an animal shelter, even though her home has been an animal shelter since day one, and the moral of the story was "If you're having creative differences, you should replace everyone who's ever gotten in the way of getting what you want"? Real mature, Miller.
>You will never see an episode on par with Lesson Zero, Party of One, The Sonic Rainboom one, or any of your favorite episodes again.
It hurts.
It hurts.
Not gonna lie; I haven't reserved the time to actually watch the show yet, so I can't say much about this.
I will say, after lurking /mlp/ for a couple months, that there seems to be some kind of cleavage between Glimmer posters and the rest of the board, in the sense that the glimmer posters act somewhat extra obnoxious and that the rest of the board has had enough, making the glimmer posters smug about it. How did this come about? I can't seem to find any other kind of waifuistic-sectarian divide among canon characters.
I will say, after lurking /mlp/ for a couple months, that there seems to be some kind of cleavage between Glimmer posters and the rest of the board, in the sense that the glimmer posters act somewhat extra obnoxious and that the rest of the board has had enough, making the glimmer posters smug about it. How did this come about? I can't seem to find any other kind of waifuistic-sectarian divide among canon characters.
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>>51307
>Glimmer is Poochie from the Simpsons
Haven't watched that in years, what did you mean by that?
>Glimmer is Poochie from the Simpsons
Haven't watched that in years, what did you mean by that?
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>>51308
the poochie episode is fairly old, aired before the 2000's.
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Poochie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySXu8x-RnA
>Poochie is a character on The Itchy & Scratchy Show. The network executives decided that the show needed an "update" to keep the interest of its audience, so they devised Poochie, a cartoon dog "with an attitude".
in short Poochie was an overdesigned paraody character to showcase poor writer practice in tv shows. he compromised the working formula of the very cartoon he was injected into and became a subject of hatred and quality decline.
the poochie episode is fairly old, aired before the 2000's.
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Poochie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySXu8x-RnA
>Poochie is a character on The Itchy & Scratchy Show. The network executives decided that the show needed an "update" to keep the interest of its audience, so they devised Poochie, a cartoon dog "with an attitude".
in short Poochie was an overdesigned paraody character to showcase poor writer practice in tv shows. he compromised the working formula of the very cartoon he was injected into and became a subject of hatred and quality decline.
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I was beginning to come around to Glimmer but she never should've been a mane honestly. But you can't talk shit about her anywhere outside of /mlp/ because the "leave the writers alone!" faggots will always hound you for it. Season 7 has been pretty good though but it hasn't been because of Glimmer. It's been DESPITE of glimmer.
>>51322
this is actually entirely possible. Newfags to the show wouldn't have the same attachment to the mane 6 that oldfags would and thus would have no problem with Glimmer cucking them.
this is actually entirely possible. Newfags to the show wouldn't have the same attachment to the mane 6 that oldfags would and thus would have no problem with Glimmer cucking them.
>>51330
It's always terrible when new characters are introduced to shows and the writers give them all the spotlight, and even worse when said characters aren't very good.
It's always terrible when new characters are introduced to shows and the writers give them all the spotlight, and even worse when said characters aren't very good.
>>51322
It wouldn't surprise me if they were all/mostly nufags. The show's quality has gone down thanks to Glimiller, but if you say this to a Glimfag, he'll "Tee hee hee haha imagine caring" at you and tell you "Pony was never great", then insult you for having "A hateboner" for his waifu despite being oblivious to his hateboner for all that criticize her. Of course a nufag wouldn't mind skipping seasons 2-5 and jumping into season 6 and watching the spotlight wank this new OC off for being the speshulest magicalest prettiest most tragic flawed broken bird character ever, of course a character shilled constantly would become his favorite.
This show used to have good writers, this show used to win awards, this fandom used to be lively, there used to be discussion threads on fandom projects and fanmade projects, but look at /mlp/ now, it's full of selfish mindless glimmerniggers with endless circlejerk generals they bump to use as slide threads whenever one of them loses a pro-Glimmer argument or something too anti-Glimmer is said.
Old episode: Something original or a stock plot carried out with a new twist, strong likable characters, good-quality writing, and a decent-to-good moral for kids.
New episode: Idiotic formulaic stock plots Spongebob, Simpsons, Family Guy and Fairly Odd Parents already did better, glimmershilling at the expense of the world and canon characters like Twilight("You had friendship lessons to teach me too, Glimmer!") and Pinkie("Oh no, I failed to understand my own sister's personality and acted like an annoying spaz until she got tired of me and left! I'm so horrible I ruined the friendship between Glimmer and Generic Kuudere animugirl OC #2845!").
Say what you will about the boring episodes in S1 made by writers that were still figuring things out, because I can say what I will about the ABYSMAL episodes in S6/7 like "Let's go make cakes for the Straw Critic Yaks! ...Done" and "If you don't like modern MLP you are literally Quibble Pants and Rainbow Dash will never love you unless you accept her tastes" and "If you have creative differences with your team, replace them all and do whatever you want!". Or that fucking stupid "Let's race karts!" episode where the track was inspired by those toy racetracks built for crashing. Or that fucking stupider Pinkie+Maud+Rarity "Gift of the Magi" plot House of Mouse did better, the episode FUCKING FULL of pandering and bullshit and modular scenes. Pinkie exists so the "Wacky cartoon humor" can be centralized in one character, dammit.
And the fucking "Fluttershy has a brother and he's a loser college-dropout millennial with a manbun" episode! Look back at the episode where RD's fear of failure was played for drama and taken seriously, then look at this one where it's used as a meaningless "Stop being lame" platitude in an episode whose fucking moral is "Don't be original, don't innovate or try new things, go to college and work hard like a good drone and learn to do things by the book so you can get a job and things will get better the harder you work, fucking millennial"!
It wouldn't surprise me if they were all/mostly nufags. The show's quality has gone down thanks to Glimiller, but if you say this to a Glimfag, he'll "Tee hee hee haha imagine caring" at you and tell you "Pony was never great", then insult you for having "A hateboner" for his waifu despite being oblivious to his hateboner for all that criticize her. Of course a nufag wouldn't mind skipping seasons 2-5 and jumping into season 6 and watching the spotlight wank this new OC off for being the speshulest magicalest prettiest most tragic flawed broken bird character ever, of course a character shilled constantly would become his favorite.
This show used to have good writers, this show used to win awards, this fandom used to be lively, there used to be discussion threads on fandom projects and fanmade projects, but look at /mlp/ now, it's full of selfish mindless glimmerniggers with endless circlejerk generals they bump to use as slide threads whenever one of them loses a pro-Glimmer argument or something too anti-Glimmer is said.
Old episode: Something original or a stock plot carried out with a new twist, strong likable characters, good-quality writing, and a decent-to-good moral for kids.
New episode: Idiotic formulaic stock plots Spongebob, Simpsons, Family Guy and Fairly Odd Parents already did better, glimmershilling at the expense of the world and canon characters like Twilight("You had friendship lessons to teach me too, Glimmer!") and Pinkie("Oh no, I failed to understand my own sister's personality and acted like an annoying spaz until she got tired of me and left! I'm so horrible I ruined the friendship between Glimmer and Generic Kuudere animugirl OC #2845!").
Say what you will about the boring episodes in S1 made by writers that were still figuring things out, because I can say what I will about the ABYSMAL episodes in S6/7 like "Let's go make cakes for the Straw Critic Yaks! ...Done" and "If you don't like modern MLP you are literally Quibble Pants and Rainbow Dash will never love you unless you accept her tastes" and "If you have creative differences with your team, replace them all and do whatever you want!". Or that fucking stupid "Let's race karts!" episode where the track was inspired by those toy racetracks built for crashing. Or that fucking stupider Pinkie+Maud+Rarity "Gift of the Magi" plot House of Mouse did better, the episode FUCKING FULL of pandering and bullshit and modular scenes. Pinkie exists so the "Wacky cartoon humor" can be centralized in one character, dammit.
And the fucking "Fluttershy has a brother and he's a loser college-dropout millennial with a manbun" episode! Look back at the episode where RD's fear of failure was played for drama and taken seriously, then look at this one where it's used as a meaningless "Stop being lame" platitude in an episode whose fucking moral is "Don't be original, don't innovate or try new things, go to college and work hard like a good drone and learn to do things by the book so you can get a job and things will get better the harder you work, fucking millennial"!
>>51359
Why, so it could end with the Alicornification of Twilight? Or perhaps with Rainbow Dash as a Wonderbolt, or with Triek defeated, or with a whole new world with all-new characters placed under Twilight's ownership/control?
There have been a lot of bad episodes by a lot of bad writers. The show getting cancelled won't remove those episodes from existence. We can pretend they don't exist, sure, but we could do that anyway.
We need good new MLP.
...We're probably never getting any, so it's time for this fandom to enter Phase 2: Existing without support. We need to create fanmade content, animations, fanfics, fanart, whatever. Not for the general masses, but for ourselves and our friends. If we want the best aspects of the brony fandom to survive, we need to keep them alive as we, the Anti-Glimmer bronies/Faustfags(The show has lost touch with Faust's vision)/whatever we call ourselves, grow and prosper and have fun along the way.
Why, so it could end with the Alicornification of Twilight? Or perhaps with Rainbow Dash as a Wonderbolt, or with Triek defeated, or with a whole new world with all-new characters placed under Twilight's ownership/control?
There have been a lot of bad episodes by a lot of bad writers. The show getting cancelled won't remove those episodes from existence. We can pretend they don't exist, sure, but we could do that anyway.
We need good new MLP.
...We're probably never getting any, so it's time for this fandom to enter Phase 2: Existing without support. We need to create fanmade content, animations, fanfics, fanart, whatever. Not for the general masses, but for ourselves and our friends. If we want the best aspects of the brony fandom to survive, we need to keep them alive as we, the Anti-Glimmer bronies/Faustfags(The show has lost touch with Faust's vision)/whatever we call ourselves, grow and prosper and have fun along the way.
>>51263
Glimmer butthurt is what I see all the time. My biggest gripes with the character is how she was redeemed in the season finally, then montage ending. It wasn't till next season that we actually say some depth in place where we saw every other pony very cautious and timid of her past.
Surprisingly though, many knowing of it. I mean it was a small village secluded from the rest of equestria and who else other than the main 6 knew of Glimmer?
Makes me wonder if apart of her punishment was have glimmer brag where ever she went that she was a bad pony that forced ponies with out their cutie marks.
With Twilight now an alicorn, it sorta makes sense that there is another unicorn. Still feels abit odd.
Is Glimmer a Mary Sue? Not really. Everyone said Twilight is a Mary Sue. Fact is Twilight has allot of depth. Glimmer on the other hand really doesn't. She is overpowered with magic which is questionable. Fact is her entire character is full of questions. Though I blame the writers for not fleshing out the character. There is a ton of potential and I would love to see more depth with this character.
What I think why everyone gets their panties in a bind about Glimmer is the fact that the show seems to be shifting the focus from the main 6 when the show started to a new group of characters such as Glimmer, Trixie, Thorax and Discord, as shown in the season finally. Many saw this as a hint to a change in focus and many see it as a threat to the current show.
I see the same and I see the show trying to shift focus, comparing to another show that I watch, Vikings, it is a saga which goes from the father to the sons. I know the father dies, history I read lots of, but I enjoyed the fathers saga allot. Ragnar the from rags to riches, full of ambition. With MLP Twilight Sparkle from student to princess and now Glimmer pops in, it is like passing a baton. I am sad by this but intrigued to see where Glimmer will go.
Glimmer butthurt is what I see all the time. My biggest gripes with the character is how she was redeemed in the season finally, then montage ending. It wasn't till next season that we actually say some depth in place where we saw every other pony very cautious and timid of her past.
Surprisingly though, many knowing of it. I mean it was a small village secluded from the rest of equestria and who else other than the main 6 knew of Glimmer?
Makes me wonder if apart of her punishment was have glimmer brag where ever she went that she was a bad pony that forced ponies with out their cutie marks.
With Twilight now an alicorn, it sorta makes sense that there is another unicorn. Still feels abit odd.
Is Glimmer a Mary Sue? Not really. Everyone said Twilight is a Mary Sue. Fact is Twilight has allot of depth. Glimmer on the other hand really doesn't. She is overpowered with magic which is questionable. Fact is her entire character is full of questions. Though I blame the writers for not fleshing out the character. There is a ton of potential and I would love to see more depth with this character.
What I think why everyone gets their panties in a bind about Glimmer is the fact that the show seems to be shifting the focus from the main 6 when the show started to a new group of characters such as Glimmer, Trixie, Thorax and Discord, as shown in the season finally. Many saw this as a hint to a change in focus and many see it as a threat to the current show.
I see the same and I see the show trying to shift focus, comparing to another show that I watch, Vikings, it is a saga which goes from the father to the sons. I know the father dies, history I read lots of, but I enjoyed the fathers saga allot. Ragnar the from rags to riches, full of ambition. With MLP Twilight Sparkle from student to princess and now Glimmer pops in, it is like passing a baton. I am sad by this but intrigued to see where Glimmer will go.
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>>51263
Pfff her liking of moths is just a reference for fluffy the bringer of darkness.
Well about the show and the glimmer stuff.
I remember when i started to dislike the show, it was in the middle of season 3, somewhere there, when pinkie started to get so random it was obviously forced, every character started acting sightly different from how i used to see them, it was like the fandom slowly leaking into the show.
And now we have glimmer, a lot of people like glimmer for some reason i don't know and really, making discord a good guy was a big mistake itself but they didn't instantly stick discord besides the mane6 for the rest of the series, but now glimmer?
They just hotglue her besides every picture. That's a fucking crap man, you can't do that in the middle of a seventh season, if they wanted to give glimmer attention so much, why didn't they made her leave ponyille and start a whole micro series on manehattan just for her? (a good example for this is magical girl index, two of the secondary characters got their own series and they are pretty good, the writers didn't need to change the whole focus of the series because they liked one character and got bored of the others)
Pfff her liking of moths is just a reference for fluffy the bringer of darkness.
Well about the show and the glimmer stuff.
I remember when i started to dislike the show, it was in the middle of season 3, somewhere there, when pinkie started to get so random it was obviously forced, every character started acting sightly different from how i used to see them, it was like the fandom slowly leaking into the show.
And now we have glimmer, a lot of people like glimmer for some reason i don't know and really, making discord a good guy was a big mistake itself but they didn't instantly stick discord besides the mane6 for the rest of the series, but now glimmer?
They just hotglue her besides every picture. That's a fucking crap man, you can't do that in the middle of a seventh season, if they wanted to give glimmer attention so much, why didn't they made her leave ponyille and start a whole micro series on manehattan just for her? (a good example for this is magical girl index, two of the secondary characters got their own series and they are pretty good, the writers didn't need to change the whole focus of the series because they liked one character and got bored of the others)
My big complaint with Glimmer is that she is really just in it for the ride. Throughout the show I have not seen any big reason why Glimmer even stays with the main 6 other than Twilight being her mentor but even then, Glimmer doesn't act like she wants her advice deep down. Also it pisses me off how they wrote the main 6 now aren't even slightly cautious of Glimmer, they just welcome her despite the fact she literally tried to alter time to cause them to never meet and cause total oblivion to Equestria. You'd think after that the main 6 and even the other ponies would be very cautious around her but no, they just welcome her freely. With Discord it took some time for the main 6, except for Fluttershy since she befriended him immediately, to finally trust him and even then the completely trust him, why is Glimmer the exception?
They should have made Glimmer a side character. I can sort of see what they are trying to do, with the whole mentoring and shit, but she is in no way ready to be part of the main 6. They are just putting her in there to make a change of scenery but not even to make it make sense. Also she is WAY too overpowered, making fucking Celestia and Luna, the ponies who raise and lower the sun and moon, just switch cutiemarks on the fly? I smell lazy writing.
They should have made Glimmer a side character. I can sort of see what they are trying to do, with the whole mentoring and shit, but she is in no way ready to be part of the main 6. They are just putting her in there to make a change of scenery but not even to make it make sense. Also she is WAY too overpowered, making fucking Celestia and Luna, the ponies who raise and lower the sun and moon, just switch cutiemarks on the fly? I smell lazy writing.
>>51395
Ah, a Glimmer fan! You're on our turf now, so you can't cry for help and beg for a moderator to save you when you run out of arguments.
>The show isn't about the mane six any more, it's supposed to be about these new characters
See, here's the problem.
What depth does Thorax have beyond "The one good Changeling"? What depth does he have as it?
What depth does Discord have as now that he's cucked by fluttershy and his character has been reduced to "That annoying edgy friend whose bullshit you put up with constantly, even though he whines when you tell him to swear less around your kid cousin"?
What depth does Nu-Trixie have? None, she's nothing more than a prop to make Glimmer look better now.
THEY'RE ALL just props. No depth, no thought, no contrasts, no reasons to be friends, no anything. Yes, the show is focusing more on them, because they can be used to shill for Glimmyglam, and that's what the writers want to do with this show, shill for Glimmyglam!
YES, that's what the writers are doing with this show now, AND YES, that's a bad thing! I'm not "Just mad because the spotlight isn't on the mane six", I'm mad because the spotlight is being shined on bad OCs with no depth. The OCs I made during year 1 of this fandom from that fanfic I never finished had more depth than these characters, and I'm often tempted to continue writing it but include a chapter where the main character comes back to Ponyville to find it Glimmer'd up and he has to undo it because Glimmer is a mind-altering reality-warping Mary Sue and Black Hole Sue.
Does Glimmer have POTENTIAL? She would, if her writers were better and would let her grow as a character.
Would she be hilarious in a different kind of show? Yes, the sociopathic selfish cunt wizard that never learned that hurting others is wrong would be hilarious in a show like Rick and Morty, where people that get hurt by her retardity are allowed to hold grudges and resent her for it.
Will we ever see the potential Glimmer could have? No, because in the minds of Bald and his friends, she's perfect and everybody else needs to accept that "Fact". She will never change or grow or learn from her mistakes because the writers consider her perfect, and that's a serious fucking problem.
Ah, a Glimmer fan! You're on our turf now, so you can't cry for help and beg for a moderator to save you when you run out of arguments.
>The show isn't about the mane six any more, it's supposed to be about these new characters
See, here's the problem.
What depth does Thorax have beyond "The one good Changeling"? What depth does he have as it?
What depth does Discord have as now that he's cucked by fluttershy and his character has been reduced to "That annoying edgy friend whose bullshit you put up with constantly, even though he whines when you tell him to swear less around your kid cousin"?
What depth does Nu-Trixie have? None, she's nothing more than a prop to make Glimmer look better now.
THEY'RE ALL just props. No depth, no thought, no contrasts, no reasons to be friends, no anything. Yes, the show is focusing more on them, because they can be used to shill for Glimmyglam, and that's what the writers want to do with this show, shill for Glimmyglam!
YES, that's what the writers are doing with this show now, AND YES, that's a bad thing! I'm not "Just mad because the spotlight isn't on the mane six", I'm mad because the spotlight is being shined on bad OCs with no depth. The OCs I made during year 1 of this fandom from that fanfic I never finished had more depth than these characters, and I'm often tempted to continue writing it but include a chapter where the main character comes back to Ponyville to find it Glimmer'd up and he has to undo it because Glimmer is a mind-altering reality-warping Mary Sue and Black Hole Sue.
Does Glimmer have POTENTIAL? She would, if her writers were better and would let her grow as a character.
Would she be hilarious in a different kind of show? Yes, the sociopathic selfish cunt wizard that never learned that hurting others is wrong would be hilarious in a show like Rick and Morty, where people that get hurt by her retardity are allowed to hold grudges and resent her for it.
Will we ever see the potential Glimmer could have? No, because in the minds of Bald and his friends, she's perfect and everybody else needs to accept that "Fact". She will never change or grow or learn from her mistakes because the writers consider her perfect, and that's a serious fucking problem.
For fuck's sake, Pinkie was more pissed/shocked at Maud for finding out she helped Glimmer in a minor and pointless way halfway through an evil plot the bitch had already started than Pinkie was at the bitch for carrying out that evil plot! An evil plot that involved enslaving and mindraping ponies, then travelling back in time to ruin the life of the pony that stopped her over and over again, creating bad timeline after bad timeline in which life gets worse and worse for everypony involved. I'm sure the Rainbow Dash from the Nightmare Moon universe, the Fluttershy from the Changeling universe, and the Applejack from the Sombra universe would have some choice words and actions for the mare that brought their hellish universes into being because she was pissed over a do-gooder foiling her evil schemes.
And that's another thing Glimmer fans never understand: Glimmer's evil actions are on a very large scale, and they were very evil. You can't just redeem yourself after that by becoming friends with a good guy then baking a cake then telling people you're redeemed now! Count up the universes she created, full of war and death, more deaths probably happened in them than the death toll 9/11 gave us. Glimmer is fucking evil, and nothing she has done has redeemed herself. Especially not getting that clusterfuck of a bad-fanfic-episode handed to her.
Glimmer has less of a reason to be evil than Discord, was more evil than Discord, and was forgiven and gets trusted more easily than Discord because these writers are bad and Starlight Glimmer is a Mary Sue only here to get shilled. She has no reason to hang out with the mane six or exist in this show because she doesn't want to improve or become a nicer pony, she just wants everyone to fall in line and do as she says and forgive her every failure while kissing her ass for it.
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>>51263
>tfw dont hate glim or flurry due to liking of all pones even sociopathic wizard ones
its an interesting kind of feel
>tfw dont hate glim or flurry due to liking of all pones even sociopathic wizard ones
its an interesting kind of feel
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>>51395
Are you trying to say MLP is doing the Jojo-style thing "New character, new saga" thing? If so, it's not doing it well. What is Glimmer's saga, besides lowering the quality of every episode and scene she's in because the writers, especially Bald, think she's perfect, making the world treat her like she's too perfect for plots or flaws despite being cancer?
Are you trying to say MLP is doing the Jojo-style thing "New character, new saga" thing? If so, it's not doing it well. What is Glimmer's saga, besides lowering the quality of every episode and scene she's in because the writers, especially Bald, think she's perfect, making the world treat her like she's too perfect for plots or flaws despite being cancer?
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>>51601
But this is a piss thread, of course there is a lot of watersports.
It just kinda a bad taste for some to join piss and gore but hey maybe anon likes it
But this is a piss thread, of course there is a lot of watersports.
It just kinda a bad taste for some to join piss and gore but hey maybe anon likes it
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>>51572
I personally think Glimmer is a great addition to the show. When I got into the show I was originally a big fan of twilight but she isn't the same any more. I liked the awkward twilight that messed up all the time and was kinda goofy and lovable. I feel that Glimmer is nothing more than S1 Twilight again I mean do you REALLY think Twilight would enchant a a doll again or do anything fun like that again?
As for the Maud episode I thought glimmer was very strong in that episode far better than the eternal headache and annoying autist in the back of the class PinkePie. In my opinion the episode would have been much MUCH stronger if pinkie wasn't in it.
Yes Glim has her flaws and writing short comings but I would still say she has more character than Fucking Apple Jack and not a complete insult to my intelligence Like Pinke Pie is.
I personally think Glimmer is a great addition to the show. When I got into the show I was originally a big fan of twilight but she isn't the same any more. I liked the awkward twilight that messed up all the time and was kinda goofy and lovable. I feel that Glimmer is nothing more than S1 Twilight again I mean do you REALLY think Twilight would enchant a a doll again or do anything fun like that again?
As for the Maud episode I thought glimmer was very strong in that episode far better than the eternal headache and annoying autist in the back of the class PinkePie. In my opinion the episode would have been much MUCH stronger if pinkie wasn't in it.
Yes Glim has her flaws and writing short comings but I would still say she has more character than Fucking Apple Jack and not a complete insult to my intelligence Like Pinke Pie is.
>>51571
I didn't know we were playing deBait club but ok, I will bite.
First of all, Glimmer and Thorax are the newest additions to the series and thorax had only about what 2 episodes and not alot of screen time? There is little we still know about the character. How ever, we do know of Thorax backstory and why he left the "hive" he saw friendship and he didn't want to attack others. He saw that his hive was starving and so he left so we know his motivations as well. But it doesn't mean this character can't be built up.
Gilmmer has depth but it is a bit ridiculous when you think of what makes her tick. She had one good friend in her time who was taken away. Now as a child, yes it could be a bit much to stay in contact there afterwards but she snapped for some reason. Writing perspective the motivation could of been more tragic which would of made the situation more dire for someone to snap, fact is, it is a kids show.
But she snapped and started to use force to keep her friends, and used disillusion to do it. In other words she would do what ever it takes to reach her goals with out an consideration of consequence. This is called, say it with me DEPTH. It is a character trait that has been consistent though out her air time. From the recent episode where she switched the princesses cutie marks to when she bottled her anger and even brainwashed the main or 5 more or less because she acts with out thinking anything though. She is not a flat character despite all of the her other traits. Which begs the question, if you are over powered in one trait are you a marry sue, are you flat? Is superman a flat cardboard marry sue? Or does Clark Kent have some sort of depth? I bring up this character because even if you aren't a geek, everyone knows of at the least of how OP Superman is. But no matter how OP the character, humanizing them is what gives any character depth. In this case, ponies.
Still, there are a lot of writing flaws and things that don't add up with the character. She isn't really flat but allot of missed opportunity in writing that makes me grind my teeth at how poor the writing is, not necessarily a character design fault. Just things shoved in with out consideration to the viewer.
I didn't know we were playing deBait club but ok, I will bite.
First of all, Glimmer and Thorax are the newest additions to the series and thorax had only about what 2 episodes and not alot of screen time? There is little we still know about the character. How ever, we do know of Thorax backstory and why he left the "hive" he saw friendship and he didn't want to attack others. He saw that his hive was starving and so he left so we know his motivations as well. But it doesn't mean this character can't be built up.
Gilmmer has depth but it is a bit ridiculous when you think of what makes her tick. She had one good friend in her time who was taken away. Now as a child, yes it could be a bit much to stay in contact there afterwards but she snapped for some reason. Writing perspective the motivation could of been more tragic which would of made the situation more dire for someone to snap, fact is, it is a kids show.
But she snapped and started to use force to keep her friends, and used disillusion to do it. In other words she would do what ever it takes to reach her goals with out an consideration of consequence. This is called, say it with me DEPTH. It is a character trait that has been consistent though out her air time. From the recent episode where she switched the princesses cutie marks to when she bottled her anger and even brainwashed the main or 5 more or less because she acts with out thinking anything though. She is not a flat character despite all of the her other traits. Which begs the question, if you are over powered in one trait are you a marry sue, are you flat? Is superman a flat cardboard marry sue? Or does Clark Kent have some sort of depth? I bring up this character because even if you aren't a geek, everyone knows of at the least of how OP Superman is. But no matter how OP the character, humanizing them is what gives any character depth. In this case, ponies.
Still, there are a lot of writing flaws and things that don't add up with the character. She isn't really flat but allot of missed opportunity in writing that makes me grind my teeth at how poor the writing is, not necessarily a character design fault. Just things shoved in with out consideration to the viewer.
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>>51571
Trixie has more depth than Glimmer and Thorax combined. She was a performer and she was called out as a showoff. She is maniacal and manipulating as well as egotistic. And I mean a big time ego. This is why Trixie can't handle criticism and when she was busting her plot to make the bits, she was being over shadowed by Twilight which she took in as a major threat. Not only to her ego, but to her career. We see later on how she had to work on a rock farm just to make a living and is what just hardened her to take revenge upon Twilight. See even this much has more depth than Glimmer. Glimmer has depth but it is poor writers that they put in all the foundations but they just do go anywhere and again why I grind my teeth.
Discord on the other hoof is mysterious as you can get in a backstory but even his character profile is quite thick.
Can these character work? Yes. Do they have depth? Yes, but are they all well written? Eh, no.
It is hard to articulate what I mean by that. But we as human know how events usually unfold which are more organic and natural, the way Glimmer is being written isn't organic at all, it is shoved down our throats in minutes instead of evolving. Did I paint that picture right? Because that is the best I can say about that.
Trixie has more depth than Glimmer and Thorax combined. She was a performer and she was called out as a showoff. She is maniacal and manipulating as well as egotistic. And I mean a big time ego. This is why Trixie can't handle criticism and when she was busting her plot to make the bits, she was being over shadowed by Twilight which she took in as a major threat. Not only to her ego, but to her career. We see later on how she had to work on a rock farm just to make a living and is what just hardened her to take revenge upon Twilight. See even this much has more depth than Glimmer. Glimmer has depth but it is poor writers that they put in all the foundations but they just do go anywhere and again why I grind my teeth.
Discord on the other hoof is mysterious as you can get in a backstory but even his character profile is quite thick.
Can these character work? Yes. Do they have depth? Yes, but are they all well written? Eh, no.
It is hard to articulate what I mean by that. But we as human know how events usually unfold which are more organic and natural, the way Glimmer is being written isn't organic at all, it is shoved down our throats in minutes instead of evolving. Did I paint that picture right? Because that is the best I can say about that.
>>51633
>This fucking argument again.
Several seasons ago, Twilight enchanted one doll to intentionally create a problem she could then solve. Things spiralled out of control and Celestia came to clean it up. She LEARNED HER LESSON.
Glimmer... you already fucking know what Glimmer did, why am I continuing to talk to you?
>>51648
>DeBait
I should stop reading there. But nah, I want to BTFO you harder.
Thorax has had multiple episodes and cameo appearances, and he's displayed no character in them at all beyond "He's le good member of le bad race resisting his natural badness to be good". Look at the Mane Six's introductions, their character traits were established and they got fans quickly or got haters quickly that then changed their minds upon seeing them grow as people or upon seeing there was more to them than the walking stereotypes they seemed to be. Thorax is nothing but a plot device straight out of a bad DND game trying to make an Always Chaotic Evil moneyspider race into a 'good' race and failing.
Skipping the rest because fuck you, rewrite your post and put valid arguments into it then try again. If you're here for an honest debate, telling you to try harder and be on your best behavior won't ruffle your feathers, right?
By the way, if "Sharing love" instead of "Devouring love" makes you stronger, changes your appearance, and removes your need to eat, why not Share Love until your whole race is powerful enough to worf Chrysalis, then attack Canterlot with an army of those fuckers? Or better yet, decide not to attack Canterlot at all, and sit on your asses without needing to feed ever again because you're "Sharing love uwu"? Until you can answer that glaring plot hole in your fanfiction, fuck off, Miller.
>>51652
Pre-Glimmer Trixie had more depth than Glimmer and Thorax and Waifubait Bird(Her only flaw is that she's too good at everything, making her unable to find one thing she's destined to do?) and Waifubait Dragon(They remind the audience how Rarity sees and treats Spike and how that's different from how Spike sees himself and their relationship in the opener, then advertise this typical tough tomboy princess proving to her barbarian king dad that brain can beat brawn?) combined and multiplied by four. Post-Glimmer Trixie has no depth because the writers are using her as Glimmer's Shadow. Her foil. Her edgy best friend that exists to make Glimmer look better, while making waifutards go "You forgave Trixie for lying about her power level then attacking a town while corrupted by an amulet she chose to put on, but don't forgive Glimmer for being worse than the monster the Jews call Hitler? Double standard fallacy!" ad nauseum.
>It is hard to articulate what I mean by that. But we as human know how events usually unfold which are more organic and natural, the way Glimmer is being written isn't organic at all, it is shoved down our throats in minutes instead of evolving. Did I paint that picture right? Because that is the best I can say about that.
Right on the fucking money. Glimmer and why we should love her and why we should forgive her and why we should want to hug her is constantly getting shoved down our throats by talentless hacks, and people that were around when the show was better than that can't stomach it.
>This fucking argument again.
Several seasons ago, Twilight enchanted one doll to intentionally create a problem she could then solve. Things spiralled out of control and Celestia came to clean it up. She LEARNED HER LESSON.
Glimmer... you already fucking know what Glimmer did, why am I continuing to talk to you?
>>51648
>DeBait
I should stop reading there. But nah, I want to BTFO you harder.
Thorax has had multiple episodes and cameo appearances, and he's displayed no character in them at all beyond "He's le good member of le bad race resisting his natural badness to be good". Look at the Mane Six's introductions, their character traits were established and they got fans quickly or got haters quickly that then changed their minds upon seeing them grow as people or upon seeing there was more to them than the walking stereotypes they seemed to be. Thorax is nothing but a plot device straight out of a bad DND game trying to make an Always Chaotic Evil moneyspider race into a 'good' race and failing.
Skipping the rest because fuck you, rewrite your post and put valid arguments into it then try again. If you're here for an honest debate, telling you to try harder and be on your best behavior won't ruffle your feathers, right?
By the way, if "Sharing love" instead of "Devouring love" makes you stronger, changes your appearance, and removes your need to eat, why not Share Love until your whole race is powerful enough to worf Chrysalis, then attack Canterlot with an army of those fuckers? Or better yet, decide not to attack Canterlot at all, and sit on your asses without needing to feed ever again because you're "Sharing love uwu"? Until you can answer that glaring plot hole in your fanfiction, fuck off, Miller.
>>51652
Pre-Glimmer Trixie had more depth than Glimmer and Thorax and Waifubait Bird(Her only flaw is that she's too good at everything, making her unable to find one thing she's destined to do?) and Waifubait Dragon(They remind the audience how Rarity sees and treats Spike and how that's different from how Spike sees himself and their relationship in the opener, then advertise this typical tough tomboy princess proving to her barbarian king dad that brain can beat brawn?) combined and multiplied by four. Post-Glimmer Trixie has no depth because the writers are using her as Glimmer's Shadow. Her foil. Her edgy best friend that exists to make Glimmer look better, while making waifutards go "You forgave Trixie for lying about her power level then attacking a town while corrupted by an amulet she chose to put on, but don't forgive Glimmer for being worse than the monster the Jews call Hitler? Double standard fallacy!" ad nauseum.
>It is hard to articulate what I mean by that. But we as human know how events usually unfold which are more organic and natural, the way Glimmer is being written isn't organic at all, it is shoved down our throats in minutes instead of evolving. Did I paint that picture right? Because that is the best I can say about that.
Right on the fucking money. Glimmer and why we should love her and why we should forgive her and why we should want to hug her is constantly getting shoved down our throats by talentless hacks, and people that were around when the show was better than that can't stomach it.
>>51671
What Celestia does 1 thing the entire damn show and that means something. Celestia is a shit princess that doesn't do shit!. And glimmer has shown change and growth something the show needs with Twilight being pretty much done with her Arc.
What Celestia does 1 thing the entire damn show and that means something. Celestia is a shit princess that doesn't do shit!. And glimmer has shown change and growth something the show needs with Twilight being pretty much done with her Arc.
>>51672
>done with her Arc
If I could hunt down and punch out whatever nigger came up with this bad meme, I would.
Watch episode 1. I know you didn't. Watch episode 1. Notice something? Like how Twilight Sparkle is the VIEWPOINT CHARACTER?
Now watch Winter Wrap-Up. Then come back and tell me what the opening tells you about Twilight and Winter Wrap-Up.
>done with her Arc
If I could hunt down and punch out whatever nigger came up with this bad meme, I would.
Watch episode 1. I know you didn't. Watch episode 1. Notice something? Like how Twilight Sparkle is the VIEWPOINT CHARACTER?
Now watch Winter Wrap-Up. Then come back and tell me what the opening tells you about Twilight and Winter Wrap-Up.
>>51263
I feel that as a character she has evolved she has changed from the student to the teacher I think glimmer works well as a student character. I feel Glimmer was a breath of fresh air and added in a new element to the show and helped it continue to grow and evolve was it 100% needed NO it wasn't but it was still a welcome change in my eyes.
I feel that as a character she has evolved she has changed from the student to the teacher I think glimmer works well as a student character. I feel Glimmer was a breath of fresh air and added in a new element to the show and helped it continue to grow and evolve was it 100% needed NO it wasn't but it was still a welcome change in my eyes.
>>51671
Dude, chill out. You about to blow every blood vessel in your face.
This is why I am shaking my head so much because everyone who debates against Glimmer always think they know writing but clearly don't have a damn clue.
Story writing != to Character Development. You are using Thorax's bad story writing to say as if that defines the character, it really doesn't.
Here is an example, say I have a character which every time he sees an empty coke can he would crush it on his forehead. We defined this character.
So why is this character when presented with a beer bottle now breaking it on his head? We know that he will smash a coke can but nowhere was this face ever defined previously, what motivated this character to do this now? This is a Character Design Flaw.
But lets say he smashes a can on his forehead, suddenly turns into a fairy princess and prances away. Well, shit, this is shit writing.
So everything you pointed out with thorax and the changelings aren't character flaws, there shit writers. What you been arguing all this time and frankly we both agreeing to. So give yourself a big clap because no shit sherlock.
Dude, chill out. You about to blow every blood vessel in your face.
This is why I am shaking my head so much because everyone who debates against Glimmer always think they know writing but clearly don't have a damn clue.
Story writing != to Character Development. You are using Thorax's bad story writing to say as if that defines the character, it really doesn't.
Here is an example, say I have a character which every time he sees an empty coke can he would crush it on his forehead. We defined this character.
So why is this character when presented with a beer bottle now breaking it on his head? We know that he will smash a coke can but nowhere was this face ever defined previously, what motivated this character to do this now? This is a Character Design Flaw.
But lets say he smashes a can on his forehead, suddenly turns into a fairy princess and prances away. Well, shit, this is shit writing.
So everything you pointed out with thorax and the changelings aren't character flaws, there shit writers. What you been arguing all this time and frankly we both agreeing to. So give yourself a big clap because no shit sherlock.
>>51671
Ah ha, I thought of something else.
See I don't hate Glimmer really because the character is there, but the piss poor writing for her is just that. It doesn't add up or fit into anything because it just piss poor writing. Not to say it can't work for the show to have her as a character but it like taking a character out of their element.
An old project back in character development as an exercise was to use this generic story and then try to add in pre-existing characters from other stories and or games.
So what we ended up with was a car repair shop with princess peach and Laura Croft. How well do you think these characters would be at all at changing the oil in a car or doing a tire rotation? It is like two fishes out of water. Both characters are well defined in their own settings but now you have a character in this odd story that wasn't ever meant for them and if you have shit writing the cross over will never work. But can it work? Yes, but you have to end up rewriting the story to accommodate the characters.
It again is that difference between character and writing.
Ah ha, I thought of something else.
See I don't hate Glimmer really because the character is there, but the piss poor writing for her is just that. It doesn't add up or fit into anything because it just piss poor writing. Not to say it can't work for the show to have her as a character but it like taking a character out of their element.
An old project back in character development as an exercise was to use this generic story and then try to add in pre-existing characters from other stories and or games.
So what we ended up with was a car repair shop with princess peach and Laura Croft. How well do you think these characters would be at all at changing the oil in a car or doing a tire rotation? It is like two fishes out of water. Both characters are well defined in their own settings but now you have a character in this odd story that wasn't ever meant for them and if you have shit writing the cross over will never work. But can it work? Yes, but you have to end up rewriting the story to accommodate the characters.
It again is that difference between character and writing.
>>51672
Celestia's character is supposed to be like Gandalf, its supposed to have a low screen time since her character appears as the old wise counselor, only in the right times.
Celestia's character is supposed to be like Gandalf, its supposed to have a low screen time since her character appears as the old wise counselor, only in the right times.
>>51368
Daily reminder the plan was that Twilight would graduate at the end of S3, having learned what she could under Celestia's tutelage, NOT be turned into a perfect Mare-y Snoot out of nowhere.
Daily reminder the plan was that Twilight would graduate at the end of S3, having learned what she could under Celestia's tutelage, NOT be turned into a perfect Mare-y Snoot out of nowhere.
>>51681
>projecting this hard
>smh
>expecting to be taken seriously
>claiming I don't have a clue because you can't argue against my arguments
Ah, Glimfags. Never change, and die alone.
>projecting this hard
>smh
>expecting to be taken seriously
>claiming I don't have a clue because you can't argue against my arguments
Ah, Glimfags. Never change, and die alone.
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>>51263
Fuck it's midnight and I just realized that I have no idea after one and a half seasons who the fuck Glimmer is. I couldn't buy her a Christmas present or even rationalize not giving her one. It's like buying a present for a cardboard box. I can't imagine what kind of dress she'd wear to a formal party, or if she'd even wear one at all. How would she react to a soccer goal, presuming she cared about it? If you brought her to St. Peter's Basilica, what would she comment on?
Mary Sue-ishness and other things aside, who the fuck is Starlight Glimmer?
Fuck it's midnight and I just realized that I have no idea after one and a half seasons who the fuck Glimmer is. I couldn't buy her a Christmas present or even rationalize not giving her one. It's like buying a present for a cardboard box. I can't imagine what kind of dress she'd wear to a formal party, or if she'd even wear one at all. How would she react to a soccer goal, presuming she cared about it? If you brought her to St. Peter's Basilica, what would she comment on?
Mary Sue-ishness and other things aside, who the fuck is Starlight Glimmer?
>>53933
Imagine a dumb leftist ripping off Sunset Shimmer and making her a perfect super-communist that can convince ponies to give up their talents just as easily as she can convince children to stop being bullies. Offscreen, of course. We only ever see the results of her "Amazing" argument skills. Probably because her on-screen argument skills are SJW-tier.
Now imagine her losing her grip on her cult communist village's lives and cutie marks, causing her to travel back in time to ruin Twilight's life, ruining the world again and again and again. Pony wars, pony genocides, timelines where Discord won and timelines where Chrysalis won, it's a fucking mess. Then SHE BEATS TWILIGHT IN A MAGICAL DUEL MULTIPLE TIMES. Can you say Mary Sue? Then Twilight befriends her, "Turning her good", because the alicorn princess could never hope to defeat this Mary Sue.
Then we get episode after episode that shills her and gives her the spotlight at the expense of other characters and derails other characters so we get scenes like GLIMMER teaching TWILIGHT about friendship and GLIMMER teaching PINKIE about how to make her own damn sister happy. The show's quality is going down because they've stopped writing the comfy adventures of genuinely likable characters and now they just wallow in glimshilling so retarded, only an equally-retarded glimmernigger straight out of Fimfic.net or MLPforums could love her or fail to see through the bullshit.
Imagine a dumb leftist ripping off Sunset Shimmer and making her a perfect super-communist that can convince ponies to give up their talents just as easily as she can convince children to stop being bullies. Offscreen, of course. We only ever see the results of her "Amazing" argument skills. Probably because her on-screen argument skills are SJW-tier.
Now imagine her losing her grip on her cult communist village's lives and cutie marks, causing her to travel back in time to ruin Twilight's life, ruining the world again and again and again. Pony wars, pony genocides, timelines where Discord won and timelines where Chrysalis won, it's a fucking mess. Then SHE BEATS TWILIGHT IN A MAGICAL DUEL MULTIPLE TIMES. Can you say Mary Sue? Then Twilight befriends her, "Turning her good", because the alicorn princess could never hope to defeat this Mary Sue.
Then we get episode after episode that shills her and gives her the spotlight at the expense of other characters and derails other characters so we get scenes like GLIMMER teaching TWILIGHT about friendship and GLIMMER teaching PINKIE about how to make her own damn sister happy. The show's quality is going down because they've stopped writing the comfy adventures of genuinely likable characters and now they just wallow in glimshilling so retarded, only an equally-retarded glimmernigger straight out of Fimfic.net or MLPforums could love her or fail to see through the bullshit.
>>53933
Also, that's a good point.
Take away Starlight Glimmer's connections to derailed canon characters like Trixie and Discord and bad OCs like Thorax and Sunburst. Take away Starlight's amaaaaazing magical power and complete inability to understand why hurting ponies is bad and being wrong doesn't magically become right when you do it. Take away the odd "HIDDEN DEPTHS!!!1" scene where some pointless trait like "She likes kites" or "She likes moths" is revealed poorly.
Who is Starlight Glimmer, besides a blank-slate OC for Glimmerniggers to project on?
Seeing a pony act "socially awkward" like them and get forgiven for fucking up again and again must be heaven to those glimfags. It's like all the things that make them shitty people were combined into one character that gets paraded around on-screen, given the spotlight again and again, and loved just the way she is. Ponies don't want her to tone her psycho shit down or grow the fuck up, ponies are fine with this low-functioning sociopath mary sue living in Twilight's castle after killing billions and causing multiple pony wars because she was butthurt over having communism BTFOd.
Also, that's a good point.
Take away Starlight Glimmer's connections to derailed canon characters like Trixie and Discord and bad OCs like Thorax and Sunburst. Take away Starlight's amaaaaazing magical power and complete inability to understand why hurting ponies is bad and being wrong doesn't magically become right when you do it. Take away the odd "HIDDEN DEPTHS!!!1" scene where some pointless trait like "She likes kites" or "She likes moths" is revealed poorly.
Who is Starlight Glimmer, besides a blank-slate OC for Glimmerniggers to project on?
Seeing a pony act "socially awkward" like them and get forgiven for fucking up again and again must be heaven to those glimfags. It's like all the things that make them shitty people were combined into one character that gets paraded around on-screen, given the spotlight again and again, and loved just the way she is. Ponies don't want her to tone her psycho shit down or grow the fuck up, ponies are fine with this low-functioning sociopath mary sue living in Twilight's castle after killing billions and causing multiple pony wars because she was butthurt over having communism BTFOd.
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>>53933
>Mary Sue-ishness and other things aside, who the fuck is Starlight Glimmer?
A Toupet saleswoman
>Mary Sue-ishness and other things aside, who the fuck is Starlight Glimmer?
A Toupet saleswoman
>>54710
Boi you just mad that glimmer was added in and changed the meta. You're just mad that the show mixed things up and you are unwilling to accept change like most people in fandoms. As soon as something comes to shake up the formula and help make sure the show doesn't grow stale you panic and go ape.
A show is dynamic it changes, it grows and alters, you can't have the same thing every week if you do it grows stale and boring.
Boi you just mad that glimmer was added in and changed the meta. You're just mad that the show mixed things up and you are unwilling to accept change like most people in fandoms. As soon as something comes to shake up the formula and help make sure the show doesn't grow stale you panic and go ape.
A show is dynamic it changes, it grows and alters, you can't have the same thing every week if you do it grows stale and boring.
>>54714
The show went from six magical friends, their adventures, and their lives to the failures of a psychotic communist murderer with no remorse. Yeah, that's "R E A L C H A N G E B O I S".
The show went from six magical friends, their adventures, and their lives to the failures of a psychotic communist murderer with no remorse. Yeah, that's "R E A L C H A N G E B O I S".
>>54714
>loses an argument
>can't cry to mods
>"hurr bdurr you're just mad because things changed"
Oh hi hclegend. How's that newfaggotry treating you?
But really. Glimmerniggers, why is this ALWAYS your response when backed into a corner and scared? I'm not "Just" anything. You're "Just" a faggot, and you need to learn better debate skills so you won't embarass yourself any more. Yes, the show changed, and it changed for the worse. The change of focus from likable ponies and friendship to glimmyglam is bad, and you can't argue for that because deep down, you know it. So instead of arguing for Glimmer, you're arguing against me. You're attacking me because you can't defend yourself or your precious tubby wubby SJW pony waifu.
>loses an argument
>can't cry to mods
>"hurr bdurr you're just mad because things changed"
Oh hi hclegend. How's that newfaggotry treating you?
But really. Glimmerniggers, why is this ALWAYS your response when backed into a corner and scared? I'm not "Just" anything. You're "Just" a faggot, and you need to learn better debate skills so you won't embarass yourself any more. Yes, the show changed, and it changed for the worse. The change of focus from likable ponies and friendship to glimmyglam is bad, and you can't argue for that because deep down, you know it. So instead of arguing for Glimmer, you're arguing against me. You're attacking me because you can't defend yourself or your precious tubby wubby SJW pony waifu.
>>51368
On my way. Hopefully the lore will be done and I can start drawing actual shit for it.
...and get the other's approval for their characters...
On my way. Hopefully the lore will be done and I can start drawing actual shit for it.
...and get the other's approval for their characters...
>>55970
Pathetic bitchy communist shitstain with no ability to debate or defend her shitty radical beliefs and no scruples, no restraint, and no likability. She screams "QUIET!!!!!!!" at people she can't beat in debates because they trigger her and make her uncomfy.
In what way is this little shit not SJW and the perfect wife for a typical glimmernigger betafag?
Pathetic bitchy communist shitstain with no ability to debate or defend her shitty radical beliefs and no scruples, no restraint, and no likability. She screams "QUIET!!!!!!!" at people she can't beat in debates because they trigger her and make her uncomfy.
In what way is this little shit not SJW and the perfect wife for a typical glimmernigger betafag?
>>56161
Interesting graphic. A degree of truth is surly told there.
It seems to illustrate parts to a reoccurring even though, rather than a vicious cycle that feeds into itself, as the circular arrows suggest.
Interesting graphic. A degree of truth is surly told there.
It seems to illustrate parts to a reoccurring even though, rather than a vicious cycle that feeds into itself, as the circular arrows suggest.
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>>56417
I fixed the typo
Glimmerniggers have "No logic reason" to get so butthurt over people criticizing this character, then accuse critics of caring too much.
I fixed the typo
Glimmerniggers have "No logic reason" to get so butthurt over people criticizing this character, then accuse critics of caring too much.
Bumping to trigger glimfags, the betafags of the brony world.
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