/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Sketchin lately, trying to make Christian ponies

Nice stuff

>>373672
Thanks! It's been a while since drawing poners

Any Christians on here?

>>373677
Cool art! Very cute.
Um, there are a few threads like >>372825 → dedicated to christianity, just saying.
Is it advisable to go to church even if you know they are owned by jews? Do I have to build my own house of god?

>>373683
Okay to be fair, the example I posted is a writefag thread...

>>373683
I haven't been able to find a church because of deliverance issues and because of truth issues. Jesus taught us to keep the law of Moses, for example, and it's repeated in the new testament in several places as well

>>373683
"Salvation is from the Jews"
t. Jesus

We have to go to fully what Jesus taught, which is the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus taught for us to become disciples, which is a huge cost (costs our whole lives and all we own), and that if we do, we will get very large inheritance in the kingdom of heaven. Jesus also taught that we should hear the Word of God and do it, which was only all the old testament scripture at the time, which is in total agreement that we should repent and obey Yahweh's commandments and seek Him with all our hearts. Jesus also said in Matthew 5:18-19 that the law won't pass away until heaven and earth do, and that our eternal rewards are heavily linked to whether we keep and teach the commands of God or if we disobey and teach others to

>>373686
Hold on there. While yes you do keep the commandments as the intent behind them is.
Love God with all your heart, mind and soul.
Love one another as you would yourselves. The story of the good samaritan and who is a good neighbor further describes the point.
With being baptized (submerged) in God's spirit, His ghost as The Comforter is God too, He writes the Laws on your heart.
He teaches us all things.

>>373688
You can't love the Father and disobey the physical commandments at the same time
1 John 5:3
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome"

>>373689
That's the point.

1 John 3:4-10
"Everyone who does sin also does lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested in order to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin. No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or has come to know Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. The one who does righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. The one who does sin is of the devil, because the devil sins from the beginning. The Son of God was manifested for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. Everyone who has been born of God does not sin, because His seed abides in Him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifested; everyone who does not do righteousness is not of God, as well as the one who does not love his brother."

So, we are required to do righteousness. So what is righteousness, according to Scripture?

Psalm 119:172
Let my tongue answer with Your word, for all Your commandments are righteous.

The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth (John 16:3) and convicts the world concerning righteousness (John 16:8). So what is truth and righteousness, according to Scripture?

Psalm 119:142
Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and Your law is truth

Psalm 119:151
Near are you, O Yahweh, and all Your commandments are truth.

Psalm 119:160
The sum of your word is truth, and every one of your righteous judgements is everlasting.

Deuteronomy 4:8
Or what great nation is there that has statutes and judgements as righteous as this whole law which I am setting before you today?

>>373690
I don't understand what you're meaning

>>373692
Did you ask The Holy Spirit or Jesus or Our Father?

>>373693
Are you suggesting that the Holy Spirit leads us according to a different law than the commandments of Yahweh?

>>373694
No, what I'm saying is did you ask them?

>>373695
I'm asking (You)

>>373696
Okay, did you recieve The Holy Ghost by works of the law, or by hearing with faith?
It's by the hearing with faith you recieve Him.
The law shows us to Jesus as nobody is justified by the law for all are cursed who break it.
You are who Jesus called friend and invited you to be family with as well.

Galatians 3
King James Version
3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.

5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

>>373697
And yet, on judgement day, what will we be judged by?

Rev 22:12
Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to his work

Matthew 5:19-20
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Whoever then anules the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Note that this indicates eternal rewards and not justification here. An enormous swing on your eternal rewards based on if you obey God's commandments or if you choose to disobey them and teach others to disobey them

I go so far as to say, if Paul indeed teaches that obeying the Law does not matter, then Paul is falling under Jesus' word there, meaning Paul would be least in the kingdom of heaven.

But I don't see Paul as saying that. In Romans he concludes often that we should still not sin. Notice in Galatians Paul is speaking on justification, that it is impossible to earn salvation, which is true. But Paul also speaks much on sanctification, which necessarily requires obedience to the physical commandments. Paul even "walked orderly, keeping the Law" (Acts 21:24)

If obedience to Scripture is no longer required, then why did Jesus so often preach "Repent"? If we only place faith and believe and that's all, then why repent, why the need? And what to repent from if the law is wiped out and there is no definition of sin anymore?

>>373699
When you follow God, The Holy Ghost, Jesus and Father you won't sin.
He won't lead you to sin.
That's how it works.
God, puts it in your heart and when you walk with Him you won't sin His seed is in your heart.
Should you go and stray? No, but people aren't Jesus but He's helping us.
>All the churches around me are full of rule breaking faggots.
Yeah that's why you need to walk with Him so you're where you need/ought to be, doing what you need/ought to do.
Maybe His plan for you is to revitalize them to be closer with God, or maybe it's something else, but you won't know unless you ask God.
When you read His words with The Holy Ghost He fills you in He expands and deepens and broadens, He teaches you and comforts.
I don't think there's anything else quite like that.
For many they don't reach out to Him.
They do their own thing and they suffer for it.

>>373700
Scripture does say we are to be perfect as the Father is perfect. Jesus also said that if a brother continues in unrepentant sin, consider him an outsider. How is there fellowship if the denominations willingly break huge portions of Scripture and don't care about what Jesus says?

Walking by the Holy Spirit is important. Sometimes I have missed the leading of the Holy Spirit for years because everyone i knew in the faith told me X sin doesnt matter, while the Holy Spirit was very quiet and was letting scripture speak for itself. Took years until I took scripture at its word and obeyed, then the leading of the Holy Spirit was much stronger in that area

>Catholic pinkie
Only slightly less pagan than witchcraft ponies

>>373701
Why are you asking me?
You are made perfect in faith, working with Him.
You become the good Samaritan.
But He is there for everything if you let Him.
>Should I sin?
No.
You ask God to continuously infuse you with His Holy Ghost.
You ask our chief priest Jesus, Lord and Savior and Friend and Family.
It's child like.
It's faith in Him.
He is with you right now. You can ask Him so you will always hear Him.
Because when you ask you will recieve.
You can and should rest in Him.
Faith in Him counts as righteousness and will be credited to you.
He loves you and He'll talk with you, you're His friend and family. He talked with Moses right at his tent, and on the mountain and Moses and God talked with each other.
And you have a greater relationship with God than Moses, He wants to talk and be with you in all things.
The reason He tends to use a small still voice is so you have the choice to either ignore or listen. Because He cares.
>Catholic
<Monty Python Pinkie

>>373704
>Money Python Pinkie
Worse!!

Ever notice the spirit in charge of this fandom?

>>373700
>rule-breaking bundles of sticks
I used to not care about words like that, but I found the only place in the Bible that I remember that has profanity mentioned is in Matthew 26:74, when Peter denied Jesus the third time

>>373705
>Humor is worse.
>>373706
Sigh.
Go ahead, fill us all in on what you want to say.
I'd recommend not reading the spoiler before you post, but I can't stop you.
Theres alot metaphysical activity in any get together.

>>373704
I have heard people stretch "resting in Christ" to an absurd degree, where Jesus finished all work on the cross and so we dont have to do anything, but somehow we will mature and bear fruit eventually. and when I tried out that doctrine, I slacked on spiritual discipline and caught consequences. Then I realized what it says in revelation 14:13, that our rest from our labors is when we die or when Christ comes back. When I think about it, Jesus said a lot to the seven churches in revelation about "he who overcomes", signifying not just passive complacency resting but rather active service.

I agree that it's all faith. I can't do anything without Jesus and I can't be close to Jesus without faith and action on that faith. I'm just saying I keep coming across this demonic doctrine version of resting in Christ or that Christ is our Sabbath rest. It made me fall asleep rather than stay awake like Jesus instructs.

>>373708
>Humor is worse
<Not recognizing bri'ish sarcasm concerning the bri'ish skit crew

>sigh
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>>373704
Hearing Jesus talk is actually unnecessary for relationship with Him in truth. He said those who have and obey His commands are the ones who love Him, and that those who do that will be loved by the Father and Jesus will manifest Himself to him (this is somewhere in John 14-16)

There are a multitude of false spirits who are eager to talk and mimic a voice or conviction or nudge that you expect to be God. Even ones which offer "fruit" by leading you to evangelize or to do other good things. But we are responsible to test the spirits, because talking with a spirit is a grave sin, an abomination to Yahweh (Deuteronomy 18:11). In the past I have had to cast out a "false Holy Spirit" and a "false Jesus spirit", both of which reacted noticably in me when I was commanding them out. I had gotten sucked into nudges that became "conviction" that led to occasional words, then eventually was a conversation. But it got dangerous and became apparent it was a false spirit

This is even with asking in faith for the Holy Spirit to speak with me more; somehow there was interception or a false first offer by the enemy which I was inexperienced to discern against.

Note that many conversational spirits will not identify themselves, but rather say "you have to just believe" or "you'll know by the fruit". This is an extreme red flag. Demand to know the name, because in Scripture it's full of "thus says Yahweh" when it's really God speaking.

This is not to suggest that we should not seek the Holy Spirit. I'm just saying that being a conversational friend with God is something extremely easy for the enemy to mimic. Same with some dream stuff

>>373670
>>373672
>>373683
>>373688
Holy mothers of samefag

>>373712
Fuck off, I'm not OP.
It's nice OP put some oc ponies in here.
>>373711
>Yahweh
No wonder you're having trouble.
There's some good short hand names which God allows and recognizes. In truth He goes beyond that as well.
Okay easy name first for anybody because it's about meaning. He is I AM.
When you say I AM you can only exist because of Him and are declaring His name before yourself.
Here's a better one, ABBA which is Farther. Is notable because it's sounded out in Greek but it's a Hebrew word.
When you cry out Abba He hears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvXY6BG1wa0
The Holy Ghost draws you closer with Jesus and Our Father.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w76vxooaX_A

>>373714
I'm warning you, the charismatic YouTubers like that talk about "friend of God" as a seeking of a spiritual presence, while ignoring scripture that defines the only way to be an actual friend of God. I was suckered in and I did meet a presence, and it did have benefits in my life, but I found it to be a false spirit and that I had been in adultery against Yah.

The way to be a friend of Christ:
John 15:14
"You are my friends if you do what I command you"

John 14:23-24
"Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our dwelling with him. He who does not love me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father's who sent Me."

So what are some of His words that are not taught nor kept today?
Matthew 5:18-19 -- keep and teach the commandments in the law of Moses
Matthew 23:1-3 -- do and keep the law of Moses
All the times of "go and sin no more" and "blessed are those who hear the Word of God and do it" (at a time when only the law, prophets, writings, and psalms were there, all of which command repentance and obedience to Yah's laws
Luke 14:25-33 -- no one can become Jesus' disciple who does not give up all his own posessions
All the times Jesus said you must give up your whole life for Him, deny yourself and take up your cross daily, hate your family and your own life, and not look back
Luke 12:33 sell your posessions and give it as charity (not to ministries)
Rich young ruler -- had built everything for the "kingdom" already. Had power, influence, money, property, connections, etc. Jesus said sell it all, give it to the poor. Not to ministries. Not to the "kingdom". To the poor. Jesus said "then follow me", after giving up everything

The people who speak the friend of God doctrine in the charismatic youtube space bring it to a point where when you spend enough time in the presence they describe, you graduate to words and then conversations, and you get prophecy. They experience prophecies that come true. But according to Deuteronomy 13, if they teach you to break the law of Moses, then even if the sign or wonder comes true, you must reject them, because Yahweh is testing you to see if you love Him in truth or if you seek experiences.

Deuteronomy 13:5 for example:
"But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death because he has counseled rebellion against Yahweh your God who brought you from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, to drive you from the way in which Yahweh your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from among you."

Consider the warning of 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12
"For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. And then that lawless one will be revealed--whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring an end to by His coming--whose coming is in accord with the working of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of unrighteousness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. And for this reason God sends upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in unrighteousness."

So my issue with the "friend of God" doctrine popularly presented and joined with prophetic giftings, is that it's disregarding Jesus and the Father's commandments directly and massively, and yet claiming you get to be a friend and experience close and intimate conversation and friendship, while you are choosing yo flagrantly disobey Jesus and the Father and pretend like most scripture doesn't exist.

Baffling to me. But I got sucked into it for a time too, so I can't judge. Deceptions be stronk sometimes

>>373714
Theres no way a dead site like mlpol had a thread with comments from 4 different users in 1 day

>>373716
Idk but wherever I go I've been marked lately for digs like this. I prayed too big for a while and it kicked a hornets nest methinks

>>373716
*6

>>373717
>Prayed too big
>Hornets nest
Do you understand that when you pray big, the hostile powers hate that and especially you.
Because they know it's you because they see you pray.
It's really not that complicated.
>>373715
>Not all presences are God.
Congrats you're right.
In this day and age you have to be wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove.
>John 15, but twisted
Wow dude demons can do that too. They can take stuff out of context.
Understand the very important parable. He will shoe you what He means.
You are the branch.
Jesus is the vine.
The Father is the one who grows the vine.
Where is The Holy Ghost?
How does one have fruit?

John 7 LSB
37 Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. 38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’” 39 But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were going to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

These are the fruits of the spirit.
This is what Jesus commands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGl5ES3E8RI

1. Before you pray forgive anyone that you have anything against (Mark 11:25)
2. You must be born again (John 3:7)
3. Remain in Christ (John 15:4)
4. Let your light shine before men (Matthew 5:14)
5. Settle and don't keep your adversaries with other people (Matthew 5:25)
6. Get rid of what causes you to sin (Matthew 5:29)
7. Do not swear (Matthew 5:34)
8. Turn the other cheek (Matthew 5:38)
9. Give more than is asked of you (Matthew 5:40)
10. Love your enemies (Matthew 5:43)
11. Give to please God not to be seen by men (Matthew 6:1)
12. Pray privately (Matthew 6:5)
13. Fast (Matthew 6:16)
14. Do not store up earthly treasures but store up treasure in heaven (Matthew 6:19)
15. Do not worry about your needs (Matthew 6:25)
16. Do not worry about tomorrow (Matthew 6:34)
17. Place God first (Matthew 6:33)
18. Ask, seek knock (Matthew 7:7)
19. Care for those in need (Matthew 25:34)
20. Heal the sick, cast out demons (Matthew 10)
21. Settle disputes between other believers in a godly manner (Matthew 18)
22. Love one another (John 15)
23. Do communion (Luke 22:19)
24. Be merciful (Luke 6:36)
25. Go and make disciples and baptize them (Matthew 28:19)
26. Be ready for the Lord's return (Luke 12:40)

Here's a compilation that appears more complete if you want the book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU2AM21g9ZU

But here is a vital parable and I missed it often. Actually every time I've read it. Every single time I missed until now.
So read carefully. Very very carefully.
Matthew 13
King James Version

24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

spirits be mirroring

Did you read Hebrews?
The Old Covent is obsolete.
We are in the New Covent and it's better.
Jesus has made us adequate to be servants of the New Convent, not of the letter but of the spirit.
Sin is not master over us, we're not under the Law but under grace.
Perfect Love removes all fear. If you live in fear, confusion, dismay, anger, frustration or any of those not of God, return to Him.
It's not your faith, you don't have it nobody does. It's God's faith extended to you.
With Him inside with joy, love, lovingkindness, hope and bold faith we do it because we say yes to His Spirit.
In psalms cease striving and know God. He's working, He'll have you be more like His Son.
>But we still have to do these things.
How it's done matters, we shouldn't try to mimic the pharisees nor the world or the flesh, we call out to God as the flesh is dead the spirit lives your spirit and God's Holy Ghost doing what the spirit desires which is what God wants.
>I've been told to ignore sin, I know they're wrong, so I'm going really into legalism instead.
It's about Him not dead things it's about the living spirit. He's the Living God.
>friend of God doctrine, where you graduate to words to conversations to prophecy.
That's wrong, you do nothing. Because it's not you it's The Holy Ghost.
You're the salt the seasoning, the means for others to also taste what God is cooking. So you have to be like Mary sitting at His feet getting to know the master in His house, soaking in Him. Martha tried working and working and working what did Jesus say? Did He say go work more and take Mary with you?
The Holy Ghost with His written word will help you.
He'll help and correct those who claim that sinning is how people should be.
The fruit of the Holy Ghost is supernatural.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
It's not evangelism that's work using your strength not God's.
The only one who brings those that are dead to even be able to be brought near is God, is His Holy Ghost.
He wants to do that with you.
He wants to do that with everyone.

>>373727
The physical commands are not done away with until heaven and earth pass away. Jesus said so in Matthew 5:18-19. He said don't anule any of the commandments or we will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. It's not justification; it's eternal rewards and sanctification.

1John 3 also warns to not sin and to do righteousness

Yes it's how it's done that matters. Doing acts of righteousness doesn't save or sanctify us. We have to seek Jesus for help to do any righteousness. At the same time, that doesn't somehow make obeying the whole law into legalism. Jesus still commands us to obey the commandments. People bring up the term legalism and then claim that we shouldn't obey certain commands at all, when the issue of legalism is not the issue of trying to obey the commands.

>Jesus: repent, believe, obey the Law of Moses
>Me: we should do what Jesus said
>Others: legalism!
???

>>374357
Romans has the details of what I'm trying to convey.
In short, the spirit is life the letter is death.
I recommend reading all of Romans.
Romans 6
King James Version
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 7
King James Version
7 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

>>374359
If you tell me that Romans is Paul telling us to not obey physical commandments, then you are telling me that Paul will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, according to Jesus' direct words in Matthew 5:19

I think this discussion is currently unfruitful. How can we serve Jesus here and elsewhere online?

I found a way to be free from lust, even while on sites like this or 4/mlp
It took a fight but Jesus set me free
Is anyone else trying to stop lusting? I could share what I learned

>>374362
By going with God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
If it's not with them it'll crumble. If it's not on the foundation of Jesus it'll fall apart and bear no fruit.
Doing things according to the world, that is without God, lead to death. Whatever it is fails and doesn't last.
I have confidence He'll inform you. John 6.
>>374360
>physical
?

>>374362
Anon, if your question is sincere then the Holy Spirit has already begun to work from within you. Every day we are not only given to another day to glorify the Lord, we too are yielded one more opportunity to serve Him.

Personally, I would pray and read the Bible. I would not only thank God for all that I have, I would ask Him to inspire me, and to reveal the underpinning of the Word, more than we merely read on the surface.

When you feel ready, try volunteering. Visit the sick or imprisoned, give to the poor, feed the hungry. Always look to help, be it even in the smallest of ways.

Most importantly, I urge you to see Christ in other people. Forgive them as He forgives us. Be slow to anger, and think on His love when rage, terror or crisis strains your heart.

What do you think? How would you endeavour to serve God?

>>374413
Healthy advice, what Jesus says to do!
Currently trying to evangelize on 4chan and discord. Some success but also some bans and some danger of getting sucked into the world again. I had left the entire fandom until I could get over porn. But besides that, the witchcraft in ponies is so bad that just being in a pony discord and engaging with pony images for a day gives me the beginnings of chronic migraines that used to plague me.

I found that I could draw my own ponies without magic and not get migraines or brain fog. But when I engage with show ponies, it gets rough. I'm finding ways to survive and still post though. Not sure if it's the most effective place to witness in, but it's hugely needed

Do you have any ideas for how to do Christ's work online? As for the little things you mentioned, I know that active listening to people on discord and talking about their life is a huge thing. I didn't get a lot of that and I hungered for it, and you can tell that when you do it for others they feel better. If we do that more, then we will get watered too eventually. And in the conversation sometimes the opportunity comes to sneak in scripture or something offhanded that Jesus said, where normally it would be a very hostile environment against evangelism

>>373687
Be very careful on how you go about understanding the english bible and its use of the word "jew"

God promised us his word is preserved in all versions of the bible, so Im not a KJVfag, or a Douay-Rheims fag. But they've been fucking with our history in order to try and control us

>>374414
>witchcraft in ponies
Do you think that perhaps you're doing something wrong?
What about the friendship and blessing in ponies?

>>374414
No weapon forged against you would succeed, God promised that.
Magic?
Effecting you who has The Holy Ghost?
God living in you?
THE MOST HIGH GOD WHO IS LIVING AND POWERFUL LEAVING YOU HIGH AND DRY? THE ONLY GOOD GOD WHO DIED AND IS ALIVE FOREVER AND IS ALWAYS ACTIVELY WORKING FOR YOU?
Seek God and read His promises.
Magic, the devil, the whatever lies are nothing compared to God.
>b-but so powerful?
No, God lives in you He fights and protects you. Don't exalt the enemy or the machinations above God.
Any one of His flock can walk through all the falsehoods and machinations and all magic stuff and be more than fine.
You have God.
I know what I'm talking about on this topic He is with me.
Because God has you, let God work instead of being a slave to that lesser stuff.
In Jesus you have victory. In God you have protection!
They're nothing to The Holy Spirit, especially faced with worse and in more number or whatever else it's still nothing!
Act like the son of God you are.
Believe in Him.

>>374444
ok but the Bible says at the end of Deuteronomy 7 to not bring abominations into your house or you will be devoted to destruction like them. Why should I love and hoard things displaying divination, spellcasting, and spiritism, abominations according to Deuteronomy 18? The show is centered on magic, and not just random fantasy, but occultic things really going on in the world.

It's like saying if you're a child of God, then lust won't touch you, which is true. But if you go around saving porn or suggestive images and marinate in it, it's possible to have issues and battles in your life over lust that are unnecessary. As a Christian I would say that it would be wrong to obsess over sexually promiscuous tv shows, and that we shouldn't watch them. Why then should we watch witchcraft shows and pretend like it's not evil?

Jesus wasn't touched because there was nothing of the enemy in Him (John 14:30). 1 John 2:6 says we ought to walk like He walked

God is not limited in power but He demands holiness. He commands us to come out of Babylon and be separate, lest we partake of her sins and share in her plagues

>>374745
...
Jesus walked through spiritual Babylon to call the sick and wounded to be healed and know His Father.
>374414
>I go evangelize
>stop because the ponies posted explode my brain
>instead go elsewhere
>how do evangelizing works?

Anyway you do you. Don't eat the meat.
But here's what I'm saying.
To evangelize is to not use your understanding or powers or words it's all Him. He's the one living through you.
He's repairing you and everyone who believes Jesus.
He'll cloth you, and feed you, He will place the words in your mouth at the right time done in how He desires when saying yes to Him.
It is Him working that people are saved, not our own efforts.
That's how the Good News spreads.
>brain pain
You don't have to have that happen.
>You said you have to put them above God and all that whichcraft stuff.
Then you're not reading what I'm saying.
God comes first always.
>They're idiols.
To you and possibly others. So stop that.
>occult things are happening!
I know. More than you have knowledge of, and you don't need to know that. You only need God and all God has for you.
The flesh is dead, but it's there we don't have the new bodies untainted by sin per se we have the new condition of being who God says we are.
Despite the world or any evil what He says is true.
He is for us. A man can deny the sin and choose God because of God.
>Why must we eat meat at the market?
Don't eat meat at the market or wound the butchers conscious.
Don't.
If God removes something from your life it's important that He does so. If you truly decide for yourself what it is you will do aside from God that's fine.
Brother Paul said with the Holy Ghost and I'm heavily paraphrasing eat meat or don't eat meat.
They are nothing to the living God.
We are condemned by what comes out of our mouth and blessed by what comes out as well.
For it is not what goes into a man that defile him but what he utters. It is the heart, to hate one's brother is murder, to reduce a person to mere sexual fantasy is adultery.
God is fixing out hearts and souls when the time comes perfect bodies.
It is not us who lives but Jesus who lives. It is God who lives, so when anyone who is saved lets Jesus live it is not their holiness but His.
We are the righteousness of God.
>Why then should we watch witchcraft shows and pretend like it's not evil?
Is that what God is saying to you?
Amidst the statues dedicated to the gods of Rome, one belonged to an unknown god. What did Saint Paul do?
God will convict you on what you should do, and seek God first always.
He gave a new nature, instead of the sin nature the constantly seeks sin, God gave His Holy Ghost so we'll seek what pleases God.
Loving Him and loving one another.

It is possible to be around the sin without engaging in the sin. If magic is abhorrent to God, then why would we want even the appearance of it in our practice? Being around it for the sake of witnessing is one thing. Clinging to it instead of to God is another thing

>>374769
>Cling to magic instead of God.
Well don't?
Why would your practice have magic?
As those who have Jesus the christ in us, we ask our Father. Going boldly to His throne and asking.
Walk to where He wants us too and if the Enemy is looking like he wants a fight do so and instead the Enemy runs away.
>why would we want even the appearance of it in our practice?
>we
Dude I have no idea what you're citing.
Is this the pony thing?
Is it your church group thing?
Is it the choice of entertainment thing?

>>374770
I mean that, if it's something God abhors, then why is it entertainment for us? Why is it something we would obsess over and spend money on and fantasize about? Are we not forcing the Holy Spirit to watch and participate in abominations to Him?

By "we" I am referring to Christians

>>374775
>Why does the flesh that infected the body and more desire sin?
Sin is a pattern a replicating infectious pattern. Someone who isn't with God must struggle against sin on every level if they desire to go counter to it.
For them it's a fruitless struggle. Any violation any way the mark is missed and the wage is death.
Sin seeks more sin. Anything, but God.
Before the fall man found it, but the adversary he saw a tool of control of domination of death of replacing God, a means to steal what belonged to someone else.
It's a simple operation any violation at any time by any means.
Separate those that would worship God would instead worship him or what ever peons or even anything, but God.
It is so hard that nobody could escape, except Jesus.
Jesus fulfilled the Law of Moses so we can be in the Law of Spirit.
His sacrifice applying forever if you believe in Him and He is from God by the power of God with the Spirit of God with His blood.
Healing the heart, instead of stone and sin its spirit and life His Spirit and His life.
Our soul is saved, our spirit is saved, our bodies will be perfect without sin.
In Him we share His body and He shares ours.
Sin is dead in Him as we participated in His death so too is sin dead.
The flesh body keeps the pattern going if allowed, the enemy will try to trick and tempt to make seem as if sin hasn't died.
The Holy Ghost with the new nature and our dead sin nature.
Once you've picked God that's it. You partake in Jesus' victory on the cross and the hope with His living forever coming back from death.
The enemy and sin did a moderately clever thing to just lie that simply isn't the case. Doesn't matter what reasons are cooked up, but for whatever reason they say you can't trust what God said about you.
That sin just can't be stopped or it's based on arbitrary quotas.
Anything and everything except what God said as is.
You are His son, He loves you, He clothes you and He has made you clean.
You are the righteousness of God.
The enemy, the world, sin will say anything to make you waver.
Once a person realizes God is true and what He said is true accepts that is true the old nature falls off.
You are the righteousness of God.
With the renewing of mind, with the grace of God the body shifts and realizes the sin nature is dead.
They will hate you because they hated Jesus first.
You are the righteousness of God.
Cast off the lies, don't be clothed by the enemy.
Be clothed by our Father.
It's the obvious worldly thing to accept what the father of lies or the world or whatever else says.
The mind can choose for a time to fully embrace sin, that hurts Him because He cares.
>why is it entertainment?
The sin nature craves sin.
Go conquer entertainment. With God.
>why is it an obsession?
The sin nature craves sin. Lies and habit.
The spirit nature craves God. With God, Jesus and The Holy Ghost living in us.
We can choose who gets what is being asked. God ensures we have that choice. Making the smallest seemingly insignificant iota have meaningful choices.
>participate
Saint Paul said even though he wanted to do what the Law of Moses said he couldn't for the sinful nature took control. Even as he's an unwilling participant.
So the body is dead.
He is alive.
>Christians
There are also those that say they are saved, but are not. They're poor, blind and need clothing. What they do is as lukewarm water added to wine.
That they don't need saving, that they have no need to have sin be gone for they say they don't have sin.
They aren't siblings yet.
>we
Don't grieve our Comforter.
By coming to Jesus at all times we have a relationship, with Him, with Our Father, with The Holy Spirit.
(You) are the righteousness of God.
By having a real relationship with God, Jesus, The Holy Ghost, Our Father we learn what He wants and all that He shares.
We love because He first loved us.
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, to restrict vengeance to have restitution of similar scales.
And Jesus expanded the word to the spirit as it always is but is now known through Him.
Love your enemies.
The law is the shadow of the light to come, but Jesus is Light.
God is greater.
Love God and love one another.

To the question skirted around.
Is it okay for me to enjoy a show about ponies doing pony things?
And I'd reply did you ask God?
I mean that quite literally that someone in God can talk with God.
No need for middle men, although you can ask God to do that for verification and messages, but those in Him can listen and ask and hear and more.
God knows.
I recommend rejecting satan and if he doesn't yet understand that God is with you, fight and he'll flee.
God's the one to go to and He'll always deliver.

magic is evil

>>374792
"Every plant which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up."
All is because of God and what He allows.
In the island where Paul got bit, the natives thought him to be damned and cursed. Nothing occurred and the snake fell into the fire. They proclaimed him to be a god, and them he also healed those on the island that are sick and have diseases.
On entertainment and content.
First listen to God. What He says, do.
For everything created by God is good nothing is to be rejected if it is recieved with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer. 1 Timothy 4 4-5
Making gifts and enjoy God has made into worshipful acts, that are humble and Christ honoring.
In all thing do it for God, or with God, or for the love of one another (which is also doing that for God).
Squeezing a camel alive and well through an eye of a needle is more than possible for God.
Bring all that is done, that you do, into the glory of God, in the name of Jesus,
Turning what could be idols into avenues to worshipping God.
t. Paraphrased and copied from Desiring God ask Pastor John, along with what I have seen by the grace and sight given by my Father.

So ask The Holy Ghost, God will answer you.
Sometimes a person need to just not partake in that for a period of time or ever. God will let you know.