Having pored over Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, I feel like there is some very important context to remember:
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus lead a charmed life in the years 121-180 Anno Domini. He was the successor to his adoptive father's throne, and was officially given power in 161 Anno Domini.
His Meditations contain nuggets of wisdom related to resolve, staying sane when the world has gone insane, strength, virtue, and fortitude.
One aspect I simply could not ignore is this:
His writings and meditations are littered with the same benefit of the doubt that has been weaponized against White Men for centuries and has allowed our People to be taken advantage of.
He was well educated, well taken care of, well fed, and loved by family and friends. He gives the benefit of the doubt to every living creature and is plagued by this logical fallacy, in my opinion.
His Meditations are those of a White Man with good intention who has never known the globohomo agenda, never acknowledged the nature of the kike, and, likely, never met a single nigger.
Many of his Meditations are great pieces of thought and I am particularly drawn to his passages related to fortitude and strength. His ideas helped to form the foundation of the (((Modern))) core of Stoic philosophy (a philosophy I have come to find more as a philosophy of inaction than a philosophy of true strength).
The reason his book and philosophy is pushed everywhere to this day is because it pushes the White Man to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, it does not name the kikes (though he discusses various plots that have occurred in the Roman Court), and because Stoicism promotes inaction as the right path against the wrongs of the World. He also uses the concept of logos in place of God, except in a few instances, which I suspect confuses some folk reading it and pushes them away from God and toward agnosticism or Stoic philosophy.
I found it to be an enlightening read, but I feel if I recommend it, it must be with this context in place. If it was simply a book of philosophy that strengthened the White Man's Will and Resolve, it would be out of print and a distant memory. Instead if you are to take it all at face value, my rational mind leads me to believe that it pushes one toward inaction and promotes the same benefit of the doubt that has continuously put the White Man in a vulnerable position.
I admire Marcus Aurelius as he genuinely seemed to put more effort than most in his position of power to understand his People. It is even said about him that he would take one day and one night out of each month to live in poverty (essentially, to be homeless and live among the People struggling most in his Empire in an attempt to understand them more. I know it's easy to do when you know you have a Palace and warm food to return to, but it is far more than most would do with the life he was given).
The simple fact is this: Marcus Aurelius never knew, nor could he likely ever imagine, the globohomo plot we face today drummed up by the degenerate kikes and disgusting, foul yids. Nor did he ever know or see forced integration between savages and humans. Many of his meditations are those of a White Man who lived a charmed life but at least made an attempt to understand the common man.
Some of the most damning praise heaped upon Meditations is that it is a core work in the field of Ethics.
Again, there are pieces of Wisdom in here that I believe any Human Soul may find valuable, but for the most part I found the musings of a man who never identified the kike nature or named them, and has never met a savage. His benefit of the doubt is a dangerous one, in my opinion.
This is simply my take after poring over Meditations.
I'll leave ConPro with this; Book Four, Meditation 22:
"Not to be driven this way and that, but always to behave with justice and see things as they are."
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus
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As far as I understand. The guy was a philosopher in times of war and kept himself busy with administrative affairs, rather than actually learning from his men who were dealing with the wars for him.
His "reign" wasn't bad at all. But his son was ultimately the one who ended the golden era of Rome.
I can't help but think this is kind of a fad tbh. It's not the first time try-hard gymcels hear about something for the first time, and go absolutely nuts about it.
His "reign" wasn't bad at all. But his son was ultimately the one who ended the golden era of Rome.
I can't help but think this is kind of a fad tbh. It's not the first time try-hard gymcels hear about something for the first time, and go absolutely nuts about it.
>>359446
>I can't help but think this is kind of a fad tbh.
Yup. I believe he was way ahead of time and outside of this world. Like he understood life like a man who lived 1,000 lives and remembered all of them.
>I can't help but think this is kind of a fad tbh.
Yup. I believe he was way ahead of time and outside of this world. Like he understood life like a man who lived 1,000 lives and remembered all of them.
>>359444
>Marcus Aurelius was a cuck because he didn't live long enough to see the world cucked by jews
This might actually be the dumbest thing I've read all year.
>Marcus Aurelius was a cuck because he didn't live long enough to see the world cucked by jews
This might actually be the dumbest thing I've read all year.
>>359444
Jews were nothing but an uppity minority with no real power or influence at the time. Shit like this is why /his/fags clown on polacks.
>>359446
>rather than actually learning from his men who were dealing with the wars for him.
So did Octavian, neither had the necessity to step up as military geniuses.
Jews were nothing but an uppity minority with no real power or influence at the time. Shit like this is why /his/fags clown on polacks.
>>359446
>rather than actually learning from his men who were dealing with the wars for him.
So did Octavian, neither had the necessity to step up as military geniuses.
>>359444
This is pretty much exactly how I feel about him too.
Stoicism is a feckless, disempowering ideology and every "stoic" I've met has either been unaware of the world's problems, or lacked the guts to try and solve them.
It uses the modern western woman's ideal of men as emotionless rocks, and weaponizes it against us, making us prone to inaction and laziness.
>>359461
>>359533
Why the fuck are you even here if you don't like people calling out the kikes?
This is pretty much exactly how I feel about him too.
Stoicism is a feckless, disempowering ideology and every "stoic" I've met has either been unaware of the world's problems, or lacked the guts to try and solve them.
It uses the modern western woman's ideal of men as emotionless rocks, and weaponizes it against us, making us prone to inaction and laziness.
>>359461
>>359533
Why the fuck are you even here if you don't like people calling out the kikes?
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>>359609
>Why the fuck are you even here if you don't like people calling out the kikes?
I think it's interesting you even took that away from what either of these posts are saying.
>>359533
This post is just pointing out that in Marcus Aurelius' time, Jews were a minority living in a province governed by Rome and they weren't particularly powerful or influential, nor did they cause any significant trouble for Rome during Aurelius' reign. The wars taking place during that time period were primarily against Parthia in the east and various Germanic tribes. In other words, Marcus Aurelius didn't have anything in particular to say on the JQ because the JQ wasn't an issue during his time period, and he had more immediate problems with which to occupy his time.
>>359461
This post is pointing out that it's silly to criticize Meditations on the grounds that it doesn't say anything about Jews, for reasons that make sense if you understand everything I mentioned above. He doesn't deal with kikes in his text because kikes wouldn't have been an issue in his time one way or the other, and it's stupid to criticize him on those grounds. It's like saying Sun Tzu was a cuck because his book doesn't have anything to say about aerial combat.
In other words:
>Shit like this is why /his/fags clown on polacks.
>>359444
>The simple fact is this: Marcus Aurelius never knew, nor could he likely ever imagine, the globohomo plot we face today drummed up by the degenerate kikes and disgusting, foul yids. Nor did he ever know or see forced integration between savages and humans.
>Again, there are pieces of Wisdom in here that I believe any Human Soul may find valuable, but for the most part I found the musings of a man who never identified the kike nature or named them, and has never met a savage. His benefit of the doubt is a dangerous one, in my opinion.
Honestly, I don't quite understand what OP is even trying to say. This feels like a "book rage," thread; in other words, some borderline-retarded anon picked up a book several grades above his reading level, didn't understand a word of it, and decided to make a thread about how stupid he thought it was. I'm inclined to agree with >>359461 in that this is a completely moronic post and a waste of a thread. Meditations isn't a book of practical advice on how to deal with Jews or globohomo, and anyone reading it to obtain such advice is likely to be disappointed. However, anyone who says it has nothing of value to offer the modern man trying to deal with modern challenges obviously either hasn't read it, or, like OP, probably just has poor reading comprehension and didn't understand it.
In a nutshell, Meditations is about developing a transcendental outlook on life and coming to understand that the universe is just a cycle of birth and destruction, and to see one's own life within the context of that cycle. All things come from nature, and all things return to nature in due course. It advocates accepting joy and sorrow in equal measures, maintaining calmness and self-discipline in all situations, and continuing to strive for virtue regardless of external circumstances. There is an underlying, virtuous order to the universe that is constant and eternal, and connecting with this will enable a person to remain calm and virtuous regardless of what turmoil one encounters when dealing with the profane material world. In the context of dealing with kikes and globohomo, the message would be to fight them calmly and with resolve, understanding that nothing they do can ever truly hurt you. Similar themes can be found in the Tao Te Ching, The Bhagavad Gita, The Hagakure, and Julius Evola's Metaphysics of War.
tl;dr, OP is a fag as usual.
>Why the fuck are you even here if you don't like people calling out the kikes?
I think it's interesting you even took that away from what either of these posts are saying.
>>359533
This post is just pointing out that in Marcus Aurelius' time, Jews were a minority living in a province governed by Rome and they weren't particularly powerful or influential, nor did they cause any significant trouble for Rome during Aurelius' reign. The wars taking place during that time period were primarily against Parthia in the east and various Germanic tribes. In other words, Marcus Aurelius didn't have anything in particular to say on the JQ because the JQ wasn't an issue during his time period, and he had more immediate problems with which to occupy his time.
>>359461
This post is pointing out that it's silly to criticize Meditations on the grounds that it doesn't say anything about Jews, for reasons that make sense if you understand everything I mentioned above. He doesn't deal with kikes in his text because kikes wouldn't have been an issue in his time one way or the other, and it's stupid to criticize him on those grounds. It's like saying Sun Tzu was a cuck because his book doesn't have anything to say about aerial combat.
In other words:
>Shit like this is why /his/fags clown on polacks.
>>359444
>The simple fact is this: Marcus Aurelius never knew, nor could he likely ever imagine, the globohomo plot we face today drummed up by the degenerate kikes and disgusting, foul yids. Nor did he ever know or see forced integration between savages and humans.
>Again, there are pieces of Wisdom in here that I believe any Human Soul may find valuable, but for the most part I found the musings of a man who never identified the kike nature or named them, and has never met a savage. His benefit of the doubt is a dangerous one, in my opinion.
Honestly, I don't quite understand what OP is even trying to say. This feels like a "book rage," thread; in other words, some borderline-retarded anon picked up a book several grades above his reading level, didn't understand a word of it, and decided to make a thread about how stupid he thought it was. I'm inclined to agree with >>359461 in that this is a completely moronic post and a waste of a thread. Meditations isn't a book of practical advice on how to deal with Jews or globohomo, and anyone reading it to obtain such advice is likely to be disappointed. However, anyone who says it has nothing of value to offer the modern man trying to deal with modern challenges obviously either hasn't read it, or, like OP, probably just has poor reading comprehension and didn't understand it.
In a nutshell, Meditations is about developing a transcendental outlook on life and coming to understand that the universe is just a cycle of birth and destruction, and to see one's own life within the context of that cycle. All things come from nature, and all things return to nature in due course. It advocates accepting joy and sorrow in equal measures, maintaining calmness and self-discipline in all situations, and continuing to strive for virtue regardless of external circumstances. There is an underlying, virtuous order to the universe that is constant and eternal, and connecting with this will enable a person to remain calm and virtuous regardless of what turmoil one encounters when dealing with the profane material world. In the context of dealing with kikes and globohomo, the message would be to fight them calmly and with resolve, understanding that nothing they do can ever truly hurt you. Similar themes can be found in the Tao Te Ching, The Bhagavad Gita, The Hagakure, and Julius Evola's Metaphysics of War.
tl;dr, OP is a fag as usual.
>>359686
I think the OP's point is that using stoicism to guide one's life in a world run by kikes is like using The Art of War to guide one's strategies in aerial combat- relatively worthless given the state of the modern world, which they could not have foreseen.
OP appears to agree with your statement that jews were not important in Aurelius' time, so you don't get to "clown" on anybody. You're just allergic to the JQ like so many others.
I think the OP's point is that using stoicism to guide one's life in a world run by kikes is like using The Art of War to guide one's strategies in aerial combat- relatively worthless given the state of the modern world, which they could not have foreseen.
OP appears to agree with your statement that jews were not important in Aurelius' time, so you don't get to "clown" on anybody. You're just allergic to the JQ like so many others.
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>>359701
>I think the OP's point is
His point is "Marcus Aurelius is a cuck," he tells us as much in the subject of his post.
>You're just allergic to the JQ like so many others.
That's like saying if someone didn't talk about their cancer before they had cancer, it means they're allergic to talking about cancer. It means they didn't think to talk about it because it wasn't a problem yet.
>I think the OP's point is
His point is "Marcus Aurelius is a cuck," he tells us as much in the subject of his post.
>You're just allergic to the JQ like so many others.
That's like saying if someone didn't talk about their cancer before they had cancer, it means they're allergic to talking about cancer. It means they didn't think to talk about it because it wasn't a problem yet.
This thread is like a holocaust of metaphors
>>359686
The false dilemma of today's internet, is that you can't know whether you're arguing with a dual-digit IQ fucktard (OP), or just a troll.
In any case, trying to dumb down what is being said for the sake of understanding is ultimately pointless.
The false dilemma of today's internet, is that you can't know whether you're arguing with a dual-digit IQ fucktard (OP), or just a troll.
In any case, trying to dumb down what is being said for the sake of understanding is ultimately pointless.
>>359702
I didn't say MA was allergic to the JQ, I said you were, or at least you appear to be, because it's very much a problem now.
I didn't say MA was allergic to the JQ, I said you were, or at least you appear to be, because it's very much a problem now.
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>>359707
I don't know what I, or for that matter, anyone in this thread did to give you that impression. We're making fun of OP because he's holding Aurelius to a standard that doesn't make sense, not because we disagree with his position on Jews.
I don't know what I, or for that matter, anyone in this thread did to give you that impression. We're making fun of OP because he's holding Aurelius to a standard that doesn't make sense, not because we disagree with his position on Jews.
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