/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>Transsexuals are four times more likely than the average person to be infected with HIV. Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40279043/ns/health-health_care/
>About 88% of children who have gender dysphoria do not hold those beliefs when they grow older. Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789
>Only 12% of boys who believe they are transsexuals still believe so when they are older. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003
>MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/
>41% of transsexuals have tried and failed to commit suicide. Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40279043/ns/health-health_care/
>Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
>Most young transsexuals have committed self-harm within the last twelve months. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44
>65% of transsexual youth have seriously considered suicide within the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44
>37% of transsexual youth have attempted suicide within the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44
>1 in 10 young transsexuals has attempted suicide more than three times in the last year. Source: http://saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44
>Only 21% of transsexuals can sucessfully pass as the opposite gender. Source: http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_report_on_health.pdf#page=3

Also, "human rights" are an arbitrary construction ya poofta. Only ponies have rights bestowed by the Princess Celestia herself as absolute ruler of Equestria.

>>302847
>41% of transsexuals have tried and failed to commit suicide.
This is so sad. Together we can stop this terrible tragedy. All trans people deserve to be supported in their efforts to successfully kill themselves.

>>302857
Now now poner, what do we say to the Satanist that has given up and turned to God? Without forgiveness, there would be no Apostle Paul. Even if the trannies got their dicks cut off by grifting (((doctors))), we would rather they continue life as a reformed eunuch than be dead, is that right?
In fact, that might be the golden ticket in stopping the tranny menace to society. I'm sure the reformeds would have a lot to say about how insistent their (((professors))) were that that they were transgender.

And for further reading, this archived thread:
>>287850 →

>>302858
You forget how cowardly and pathetic trannies are. They failed as men but the left grooms them and love-bombs and guilts and conditions them into the surgery...
and when they say "I have regrets" they are abandoned by all the "friends" they made on the left.
And because the left encouraged them to stop seeing all their old friends and devolve into a bitter pathetic leftist personality type nobody would want to know, the trannies have nobody left.
The tranny who invented "non-binary" was too tough to kill himself just because the left wanted him to.

Reminder that some old thread may have died for this.

>>302863
Not sure what you're trying to say with all this, though from the looks of it I can't say I'm all that interested tbh; sorry Nigel.

>>302864
A good point, made better with saging in all fields.

A post to refresh the moral compass.
>TruNews
>Morality Meltdown: U.S. Culture Now a Demonic Dumpster Fire
>Today on TruNews, we discuss the tragic decay of American society as Republicans eject Christians from the new Log Cabin party over chemical castration of children and Biblical marriage.
>Airdate 03/02/2021
>Dennouncing the kike and homo infiltration at the republican party CPAC2021
https://www.trunews.com/stream/morality-meltdown-u-s-culture-now-a-demonic-dumpster-fire
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/l9F5OMQFiPLU/
A couple of clips added.

>>302915
Here, have the musical version.

>>302997
forgot these

>>302934
>A post to refresh the moral compass.
Moar:

>America Has Been Judaized
>Rick Wiles reminds us how we switched from being a Christian nation to a God-less nation.
https://www.trunews.com/stream/america-has-been-judaized

>>302997
>>302998
WTF.
To blame somebody with a mental illness is useless.
But blaming doctors and the government financing that horror show is right on target.

>>302847
As a tranny I think the bottom line has it best. Why bother with human rights anyway? Ziggers sell their own children into debt slavery for free gibs, Most people who care about politics have no backbone and prostitute themselves to neocons or commies. Most people have no interest in banding together in large enough groups to make some kind of lineal dynasty. And when the country is all but lost, no one is willing to lift an arm to fight for it.

Human rights only exist for those that will support the system that defines and protects those rights. No free lunch. As of now, most people are so disconnected they cant even support their own health let a lone any kind of system or group. People like that don't just not deserve rights, they don't have any. They will sell their rights to the highest bidder immediately because they are powerless and lost.

Under feudalism we will find escape from such madness as giving these people an equal say.

>>302973
Would be better if the guy had eyelashes to make it seem like a femanon

>>303042
A lot of the problems happening to people can't be blamed directly on them. If your doctor prescribed you opioids and told you they were safe, that's on him.

If, however, you seek them out, yell and scream about "opioid rights", push other people into it, and wallow in it, you really should consider "overdosing". That's on you, and probably describes 90+% of troons.

It's kinda retarded to divorce mental illness in general though, that's something you need to be prone to already (LGBBQS are massively sick physically and mentally in every other way), so it can't be divorced from you, even if it's legitimate to also blame the propaganda.

>>303123
>feudalism
Enjoy being owned by the 0.01%.

>>303133
You're right.
And it's coming, the Great Reset is about feudalism. The oligarchs claiming ownership on us.

>>303133
This is already true now faggot.

I'd like to throw my hat in the ring, seems like this is becoming its own thread well enough.

Trannyism a lot more complicated than people give it credit for. The left (not necessarily the people that compose it) has seen and utilized a lot of men's AGP tendencies as an attack vector in psychological warfare with the ultimate aim as the destruction of Western culture, and created a movement around getting as many people to transition as possible, regardless of if they would be better off living as a man and crossdressing occasionally or not. Basically just exploiting one of the glaring vulnerabilities in Western society, especially the USA, I'm thinking.

With the constant propagandist effect that "die for Israel goy" had for ten years, the split between masculine and feminine styles had reached a breaking point, and I think a lot of fashion changes were actually kind of in order, since a lot of the men's styles here in the US involved what seemed like a race to wear the baggiest, thickest, sturdiest clothing possible, while feminine styles involved a race to the stretchiest, most form fitting and delicate, with little in between. I suppose you could say the drive to put on the clothes made for the opposite sex could be described as a luxury or a desire to surround oneself with femininity, much like afternoon tea or watching a TV show marketed originally toward little girls. That, in and of itself, doesn't really bother me too much. The men can have their fun and then return to normal life whenever it beckons; and in fact in Europe if you didn't wear tights or lace in the 18th century you were considered a dirty pleb, I might add.
Additionally, I'm actually a bit confused as to where it might say explicitly in the Bible where it says "thou shalt not wear clothes originally made for the opposite sex," I think I've read a blog post somewhere where a minister tried to claim that it said so implicitly, but their argument was really rather complicated and dealt with a lot of contextual framing; I'm sure someone will fill me in if it says so in scripture. But most people will just say it's wrong and degenerate, we can't have men acting like women, etc, not paying too much mind to it. Moral arguments are kind of moot, is what I'm trying to say; people will come to their own conclusions, that's fine. My biggest problem with it would be that it would seem to lead to fapping, actually. Without that, men's and women's styles are just that; styles. Remove the sexual aspect of it and it quickly becomes a lot more like channeling the spirit of Rarity, or a male counterpart if you prefer. If a bit more erotic than your average clothing, but men's fashion had largely been lacking that Victorian aspect for quite some time.

On more of a societal level, it's now fashionable to aid in trying to create as many false positive cases as possible, and ambushing otherwise well-to-do AGP men with pronoun changes and HRT and surgery before they could really think about it, as a cult would; Big Pharma has had a hand in this as they stand to gain the most profit from selling people synthetic estrogen, and there's a very steep social investment cost towards that sort of thing, so people are going to think twice before de-transitioning after having claimed to be a woman for months or years and having to withstand the inevitable group of damaged women that try to get them to reconsider. The rise of a sort of social psychiatry is also to blame, with everyone turning to therapy and pharmacological drugs to fix the problems created by wanton corporatism in the first place, and the claiming of everything as some sort of mental disease that can be cured with pillpushing, and you get a lot of kids and adults that have massive family and social issues turning to therapists at their university far from home and elsewhere that, upon hearing they crossdress to relieve stress occasionally, are quick to offer them a doctor that can prescribe them hormones. Since, if a little helps a little, a lot must help a lot, they think, regardless of their activistic aspirations and personal issues they have themselves, of which you can rest assured there are many.
And more to the problem, HRT predictably creates a lot of estrogen-infused thoughts and behaviors to come out of a person, many of which are entirely relational and feminine in their nature, combined with all the unresolved issues alluded to above. So, you have an extremely depressed person who's seen moderate, temporary success in resolving their litany of issues by taking these pills that make them want to socialize some more and exhibit aggression in ways females tend to do, and you have them trying to go around policing everyone's thoughts and trying to stir up drama so they can exploit it and climb their nearest social ladder.

It really was never that men are AGP in the first place, that's going to happen regardless of where you are (we can only hope they'd be tasteful about it). Nor is it quite their fault that they've had estrogen forced onto them. That came about as a concerted effort on behalf of (((profiteers))) and sick, corrupted people, with a sort of perfect storm brewing in the decade or two beforehand. Those that are taking the pills have been the target of a widespread corporate propaganda campaign, exploiting one of their psyche's most secret, intimate vulnerabilities that are constantly being thrown out on full display as some kind of sick humiliation ritual that they're now expected to take part in. Furthermore the crushing weight of pharmacological greed can break a man, easily. Think somewhere between One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and A Clockwork Orange in their technique. Not to mention that offing themselves is exactly what tranners are doing already, albeit slowly. The only way out of this is to hope that they'll right themselves for their own sake, and welcome them back if they decide to do so, and adapting to the change in fashions to ease the tensions.

>>303155
>Additionally, I'm actually a bit confused as to where it might say explicitly in the Bible where it says "thou shalt not wear clothes originally made for the opposite sex," I think I've read a blog post somewhere where a minister tried to claim that it said so implicitly, but their argument was really rather complicated and dealt with a lot of contextual framing; I'm sure someone will fill me in if it says so in scripture.
Tranny fag from earlier here. I actually know a bit of scripture because learning is good for you. The basic etymology of that statement that people talk about crossdressing is infact a very very weakened version of what the original verse meant. It straight up condemned men and women for swapping given roles. It wasnt just clothing, they wheren't supposed to take up the things that where for someone else. For example, a gun, a sword and armor. Everybody talks about jonna of arc as if she was crossdressing and they where doing some kind of gatcha, but in actuallity it was more spiritual than that. Women where bared from a whole list of activities that where considered male. Including roughousing, and though it most definately happened anyway, the principle behind it was the idea that chasteness and chastity was about being cool and waterlike, mercurial, and any activity that put a woman into heavy motion, aroused the senses, (like combat), would be considered basically sacrilege.

These societies would have balked at right wing tomboy squads as horroble loose and sinful women. In regards to the faith itself and how this impacts christianity and our relationship with it, I can say that I don't remember which part of the bible that verse is from, who said it, and when the verse comes from. One anon on regular old /mlp/ brought to my attention that fact that the torah we used today as complete is actually much newer than the story of jesus. And because of that I have become increasingly supsicious on relying upon a version of god pretty much written by our enemy in their current form. I am not exactly religious let alone christian. I am too mired in my day to day existance, but I would very much like to see all bible stories sourced in their most period appropriate form, ignoring anything that was lost, and see what stories fall away.

One of the big motivating reasons for this was the whole circumcision thing, which happens to be a fable that was not, afaik, witnessed in any document prior to jesus's story in date of writing. Keep in mind I could be wrong about any of these. details, but its fascinating food for thought to me, since that and several other reasons are the main issue I take with god and his claims of ultimate morality.

As for your assertion on trannys, I mostly see it this way; there are two kinds of trannys, people who can repress and people who can't. There's always a wedge case the juden uses and in the tranny case this fanciful demented assertion was constantly tossed aside until people started getting desperate enough to cut off their junk. SRS exists primarily because of experimental jews but it could only be practiced on people desperate enough to be rid of their junk and I'm one of them. It's real mental illness. The suffering of the meme images seems rare to me but I am not happy with the look of my outcome but I am more comfortable, by an order of magnitude. I fully suspect circumcision has something to do with it though. I really wonder about the rates of trannys going post op who had circumcision happen to them. I might have been bad from the start, but it's certainly another long line in a damning list, and over all the lack of commitment from conservatives in fighting circumcision as compared to trannydom really makes their behavior ring hollow to me. the profiteering at this point almost doesn't matter. The people who are paying for it now aren't even your tax dollars. It's all on FAGMAN's budget now. well, other than darkies, but they where never going to not tax you anyway. at least this way they can't multiply. Any way in the end what I am saying is I think if we are disgusted by people cutting their peepees maybe we should focus on the biggest source

>>303157
>Tranny fag from earlier here. I actually know a bit of scripture because learning is good for you.
Sincerely, at least to myself, this type of rhetoric is going to weaken your argument from the outset. Feel free to disregard unsolicited advice, just trying to help.

>The basic etymology of that statement...
Do you happen to know which book they're referring to? I thought it was one of the ones Paul wrote, to Corinthians, or Ephesians... having trouble pinpointing it. But it's good to know.

>I am too mired in my day to day existance, but I would very much like to see all bible stories sourced in their most period appropriate form, ignoring anything that was lost, and see what stories fall away.
Fair enough, I'm more partial to taking what comes and goes like the waves on a beach. Some types of spirituality may fit better or worse in any given situation, resembling the ever-changing Yin and Yang. Once something's gone, I would argue that it doesn't mean it can't come back, like different types of fashion, for instance.

>As for your assertion on trannys, I mostly see it this way; there are two kinds of trannys, people who can repress and people who can't.
We might be getting into less of an agreement here. I would probably, instead of a binary form of classification based upon repression, state that it's more of a continuous degree of desire. To me, repression is really a rather loaded word, much as the word "homophobic" would seem to suggest that those that disagree with the practice of homosexuality are somehow afraid of an act of consensual homosexual sex behind closed doors itself, when in reality they are more concerned with a presumptive damaging effect on society and Satanic influence. It could be seen as a way of minimizing the arguments that Christians are trying to make.

>It's real mental illness.
I won't argue with you there, although I have a strong hunch that it's been ruthlessly propagated as a result of some type of (((interest))). I can't imagine it getting anywhere close to as widespread, and to this degree, without an active effort to press hard and exploit one of society's sore spots. By my own experience, mental illness is so often less about a "chemical imbalance" and more about situational problems that would predictably make someone sad or confused.

>Any way in the end what I am saying is I think if we are disgusted by people cutting their peepees maybe we should focus on the biggest source
I suppose, though to my knowledge that has little effect on the public consciousness. That it may be hypocritical is of little matter, a man circumcised or not has little to do with the way he presents himself in public. The same can't be said about the thought policing that's common with trannies. Most people afaik wouldn't really have an issue with them if they didn't object to someone thinking of them in a different way than they present themselves. Would some people do it mean spiritedly? Sure. Not all of them, though, in fact plenty of them would call a person taking HRT and wearing a dress a man because that's simply how they see them. Much of the problem in today's society stems from those wishing to force other people to take it upon themselves to change their own reality to suit the former person's, and that's something I simply cannot agree with; relatedly, your opinion being your own, of course.

Regardless, I think I've put forth most of what I've got to say about my argument up above, and have a couple things to attend to today, so I hope you can forgive if I have to step out. I consider what I've written to hopefully facilitate constructive conversation, and was not meant to step on anyone's toes. Maybe I can rejoin the conversation at a later time.

>>303157
Based Tiara.

>>303158
>I'm having trouble pinpointing it
Just look up "bible crossdressing"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+22%3A5&version=NIV
Deuteronomy 22:5
>5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.

>>303167
Hm. Then I wonder why said minister insisted on making a theological argument that didn't point directly to verse. Maybe it was because they were more concerned with the New Testament.

>>302973
So this is where Eminem's talent went to.

>>303158
>Sincerely, at least to myself, this type of rhetoric is going to weaken your argument from the outset. Feel free to disregard unsolicited advice, just trying to help.
what kind of rhetoric? I honestly have no clue what you are even having a problem with.
>Do you happen to know which book they're referring to? I thought it was one of the ones Paul wrote, to Corinthians, or Ephesians... having trouble pinpointing it. But it's good to know.
I don't. I rarely remember street names either. I want to say it might have been timothy but I know the verse has a wiggle word that was translated oddly. Keep in mind that these older societies where completely different to ours, Women and mens clothing where very different then as well as many other aspects of their society, so as we move through the ages, often the words chosen as translation wont match up to those times without understanding the full context. But doing this for every passage in the bible is for an actual theologian, I am a dabbler. A factotum if you will.
>. I would probably, instead of a binary form of classification based upon repression, state that it's more of a continuous degree of desire.
Fair, but explaining how every aspect of nature is an amalgamation or imperfect cetegorization ie a spectrum
tends to cause other anons to lose their shit at worst and just ignore and mock at best. I have, probably over 100 seperate occasions, tried to instill the realities of biology when it comes to this and other topics along these lines. They are almost always discarded because of blind frustration our outright hatred of anything the left has managed to grab a hold of, distort, and push. Creating a high fidelity image requires various inputs but these days, the only thing the average user here or there wants to understand is high contrast. the higher the better.
>disagree with the practice of homosexuality are somehow afraid of an act of consensual homosexual sex behind closed doors itself,
Many people are, and myself included. For all my flaws I have a very mechanical understanding for why homosexuality is wrong/unhealthy. It's not so much that having it behind closed doors is desirable as building a system that gets to knock down anyones door to make sure no illegal fun is happening tends to be not too distant from outright marxism.

Suffice to say the proliferation of aids, sexual disfunction and disease, abuse, and violence in the gay community, let alone leftism and crime, makes me very suspicious of the idea of suggesting gay sex behind closed doors is okay. These things are a product of the sex itself, which to understand requires the granular biological understanding of the role of men and women in evolution and nature as a whole. Most however, choose to see the morality of the act through the lens of their feelings or religion.

>I wont argue with you there
there are those that would argue that its fake, and I am not really taking a side here or there, just explaining that this is like turrets or autism. There is a mechanical weight to the neurosis, its not just yet another form of depression. weather they want to call it psychosomatic is up to them.
> a man circumcised or not has little to do with the way he presents himself in public.
I've argued pretty blatantly that it does. In fact, were research not squashed I think a bigger case against the practice could be made against it than vaccines and soy combined. but I am not exactly sitting on a book of sekret evidence. This is just my conviction. It could just be that for most its a meme and doesn't really affect them. I can't really see it that way though. We're talking mutilating the sex of an infant here.
>The same can't be said about the thought policing that's common with trannies
actually considering circumcision is a choice imposed upon an unwilling and uncomprehending subject I would put it an order of magnitude worse than this scenario. and it could very well be that after decades of silently pumping their children full of the worst food, and the worst (((healthcare))) and the worst school system, they suddenly have to deal with the fruits of their labor. I can't say I don't feel sorry for them, but I also can't muster much conviction to help people who by and large don't want to make changes. While I find climate change to be one of the worst scams of all time, I can't help but wish it had widespread appeal in the conservative normiespace. That way the principles of indirect harm to self and their environment might penetrate the thick skulls of boomers and neocons.

>>303177
>what kind of rhetoric? I honestly have no clue what you are even having a problem with.
Without committing what I would see to be the same kind of error, I think it's best if I don't comment on it further. Please pardon my nitpicking.

>They are almost always discarded because of blind frustration our outright hatred of anything the left has managed to grab a hold of, distort, and push. Creating a high fidelity image requires various inputs but these days, the only thing the average user here or there wants to understand is high contrast. the higher the better.
Well... can you really blame them? I've had that temptation put before me in the past, and taken it more often than I'd care to admit. I wouldn't discount the intellectual capabilities of other horsefuckers on the board, too, not sure if you're talking about here or on 4chan, where you'd more expect to see that kind of stuff; I'd like to think we tend to take a bit more time here to mull it over.
However I will say that at least intuitively, psychology tends to contain far more continuous spectra than biology would. In case you're referring to hermaphrodism or something like that, if I'm not mistaken it's something like one in a million, and psychologically speaking it would intuitively be easier to change your persona rather than bodily functioning, much like the difference between installing and uninstalling software and tinkering inside a computer's case.

>there are those that would argue that its fake, and I am not really taking a side here or there, just explaining that this is like turrets or autism. There is a mechanical weight to the neurosis, its not just yet another form of depression. weather they want to call it psychosomatic is up to them.
...not really sure what you mean here. Just that it's ingrained, unchangeable since birth? I would think of it differently.

>I've argued pretty blatantly that it does.
Fair enough, outside of it leading to SRS I'm a bit confused as to how that changes someone's behavior out in public, though. As for the following statement "we're talking mutilating the sex of an infant here," I too have no comment, I'm afraid. I guess that's not something that really crosses my mind all too much. To be certain, it's not something I support, circumcision.

>actually considering circumcision is a choice imposed upon an unwilling and uncomprehending subject I would put it an order of magnitude worse than this scenario.
You might be surprised at how little quite a many subjects of psychiatry as a whole are unwilling toward and uncomprehending of whatever treatment they're about to receive, as in informed consent to side effects of medication, for instance, but without going into too much detail I won't try to argue which I think is worse at the moment; we might have to agree to disagree on this subject for now.

>it could very well be that after decades of silently pumping their children full of the worst food, and the worst (((healthcare))) and the worst school system, they suddenly have to deal with the fruits of their labor.
Well, I do understand the irony you must be alluding to here, but I do sometimes wonder what stubborn, unchanging ideals the millennials and zoomers are going to cling to. I'm kind of undecided on boomers right now, they've got good and bad parts to them, like everything else. In fact I think the left of today is much like the right back then (the 80s) as well, and there's good ones and bad ones, too. Or maybe it's that the most wise are always diamonds in the rough; rudimentary knowledge of the situation points to the fact that even Socrates was put to death by the Athenians.

>While I find climate change to be one of the worst scams of all time, I can't help but wish it had widespread appeal in the conservative normiespace. That way the principles of indirect harm to self and their environment might penetrate the thick skulls of boomers and neocons.
You must be referring to moral sanctity, which I do think they possess, it's just that they hold other things sacred than the environment at large, and they make an exception for circumcision. George Carlin's "the sanctity of life" bit comes to mind.

>>303181
>In case you're referring to hermaphrodism or something like that
I'm referring to all biology. All of it operates on a sliding scale. You cant draw meaningful distinctions without being arbitrary about it. Where leftism muddies these waters completely is the idea that just because these processes are a spectrum does not make the base observations about any individual or group invalid. Understanding this concept is very important to more than just muh troon maymays. It's basically a prerequisite to even understand how genetics works as a field of study. Most people struggle with ideas as broad as "every feature is dependent upon genetics." Getting stuck with their preconceptions instead of really trying and, maybe even more important for success, wanting to understand that the environmental cause of poisoning yourself by drinking alcohol is defined entirely by weather or not you are a horse or a human. IE your genes have more to say about weather something is poison or not.

> if I'm not mistaken it's something like one in a million, and psychologically speaking it would intuitively be easier to change your persona rather than bodily functioning, much like the difference between installing and uninstalling software and tinkering inside a computer's case.
This isn't really the case. In each system, you have a completely different work load. One, a software environment, which is itself a hyper complex network of things that take a ton of people to understand and implement, to the point that deploying software pretty much 100% requires their assistance and work, where as physical hardware is pretty much plug it in and observe basic safety. I think this analogy suffers greatly if we're talking about trannies. Most people do not even understand how to build software, and the industry dedicated to making software simple, while just as present in hardware, dwarfs hardware in every scale.

I also find it kind of suspect when people say things like just change your mind. In some ways this is not an impossible task, but there is something fundamentally inhuman about it, because you could say the same for just about anything; Ponies for example. Why should grown men care about small childrens girly cartoons, written by a slacktivist marxist of all people, and funding the jewish enterprise? The vast majority of complaints from the former generation to ours is inherent in their absolute contempt for the things we find interesting or care about, and the pattern has a long lineage before them too. I don't really think you can inherently tell people they need to change their opinions or feelings because its easier than changing their body. It opens the door too wide for wrongthink.

>Not really sure what you mean here
Look up psychosomatic and it might clear things up

>I too have no comment and etc
>we might have to agree to disagree on this subject for now.
That apathy is in general something I find absolutely appalling and is basically my primary reason to discount much of the conservative attitudes towards trannies. It makes it pretty clear that this is an axe to grind because of comfort and not morality. As long as they are not confronted with literally bloody infants getting the knife as part of their first moments of existence from the callous families and doctors that brought them into this world, they could care less, and yet being confronted with trannys out in the street demanding they bend the knee would rile them up.
>but I do sometimes wonder what stubborn, unchanging ideals the millennials and zoomers are going to cling to
Oh I have also noticed the same sickness or sin pervasive in our own cultural osmosis. I cant really predict that many moves ahead to tell you what we will be complained about by the generations past the zoomers.
>You must be referring to moral sanctity, which I do think they possess,
Literally no, like. hard no. I feel like you've fallen down the philosophical rabbit hole. I don't really have anything pleasant to say about philosophers so maybe that is why I already kind of despise you. At this point I'll just keep it to bare facts, What I said is that despite climate change being a scam, in order to believe it is true and a problem you have to have the mental capacity to understand inadvertent effects can be damaging to you and your society from your own wasteful and ignorant behavior.

It has nothing to do with morality at all. The average normie conservative lives in a state of active contempt for care towards what they put in their mouth or their childrens mouth, what they consume and what they see. They cry and scream trannies are not healthy to be around kiddos, but take no effort in understanding the internet community, hobbies, and environments that are going to shape their childrens lives. They absolutely frontload their lives with as much hedonism and sloth as any liberal, if not worse, and then act surprised when the society they pretended to care about has uppended. There is a complete disconnect in their minds between every troon and queer walking around, and the endless state of divorce and broken families. The idea that circumcision is some kind of special exception, and they really have been pulling their all is a blind naive take at best. Things only got this bad because they confuse preservation of tradition with slovenly unchanging traditions. That is where I and the average normie and often /pol/ user diverge heavily. I believe healthy traditions are often destroyed because the people who practice them refuse modernization. They see their tradition as some kind of sacred object that they try to defend, instead of seeing the act of preservation as a system that will always require new techniques, new cutting age technology, and sacrifices of personal taste. To them, conservatism and tradition is only an excuse to be lazy and not change how they do anything in the service of the cause of preserving tradition. Then, Armed with clubs, they are shot by leftists

>>303187
I didn't read all of that because it sounded like you were becoming more and more disrespectful with each point you were trying to make, ironically doing the very thing that you claim to hate, which is not allowing yourself to be open to new ideas. I hope your life gets better, but I won't be your emotional punching bag. Good day.

>>303218
I dont owe someone who doesn't care that small children get mutilated any respect

>>303226
Thou shalt not cast pearls before swine, indeed.

What the fuck ARE so-called "Trans rights"?
What are they desiring for the "right" to do they cannot ALREADY do?

If trans rights are human rights, how come trannies aren't human?

>>303242
The toxic subhuman groups that make up the left want a caste system with them on top and us on the bottom, even though those degenerates lack the brainpower to lead and belong in padded cells at best.

>>303242
Pic related says it best, it's the "right" to impose on the liberty and property of everyone else.

>>303155
>Additionally, I'm actually a bit confused as to where it might say explicitly in the Bible where it says "thou shalt not wear clothes originally made for the opposite sex,"
The first time it says that is in Exodus, then it repeated itself again and ups the punishment a few books later.
>If a bit more erotic than your average clothing, but men's fashion had largely been lacking that Victorian aspect for quite some time.
If you've been doing NOTHING but watching Pedowood shlock, that's exactly what you see. In reality, people are a lot more secure and confident about what it is that they do. Hell, it's been no secret that fucking American football players regularly take ballet lessons. The PROBLEM is that the people making decisions about what media gets developed are solely focused on strip societies of any semblance of culture or identity, and replacing it with their (((approved ideology))).
>The rise of a sort of social psychiatry is also to blame, with everyone turning to therapy and pharmacological drugs to fix the problems created by wanton corporatism in the first place, and the claiming of everything as some sort of mental disease that can be cured with pillpushing, and you get a lot of kids and adults that have massive family and social issues turning to therapists at their university far from home and elsewhere that, upon hearing they crossdress to relieve stress occasionally, are quick to offer them a doctor that can prescribe them hormones.
Part of the problem was ACTUALLY society ITSELF. Thanks to the Enlightenment thinking of the past several centuries, first-world citizens having been suffering from mental breakdowns in absolutely staggering numbers. In fact, for the first half of the 20th century, 50% of hospital beds were occupied by people who suffered from ZERO health problems. It was all in the mind, but people didn't want that to be the answer. If all of their problems was entirely superficial and internal, then they have to be the one responsible for their actions. This is where Big Pharma comes in. People were demanding that doctors provide them with a simple pill that could fix all their problems because they didn't actually give a shit about solving all their problems. Most of the cases were solved with placebos, but people were not accepting it. So, pharmaceutical companies started legally creating drugs to "help" these people, and the doctors prescribed the drugs to get the patients out of their face. However, this has backfired since because now you have Holier-than-though doctors, who think everything can be solved with a pill, and want to do nothing but fuel their god complexes.

>>303157
>Women where bared from a whole list of activities that where considered male. Including roughousing, and though it most definately happened anyway, the principle behind it was the idea that chasteness and chastity was about being cool and waterlike, mercurial, and any activity that put a woman into heavy motion, aroused the senses, (like combat), would be considered basically sacrilege.
>These societies would have balked at right wing tomboy squads as horroble loose and sinful women.
I'm calling bullshit because the Greeks literally had Olympic games just for women, and much of Christianity is highly influenced by the Greeks.
>One anon on regular old /mlp/ brought to my attention that fact that the torah we used today as complete is actually much newer than the story of jesus.
The Torah is the five books of Moses, the first five books in the Old Testament. What you're probably thinking of is the Talmud, which is an expansion of the Mishnah, which is a complete rewrite of the Hebrew Bible (The Old Testament) in order to preserve pharisee laws and and philosophy, and condemns Christ to Hell for being heretic. And it was written after the Christian New Testament. The "newest" book in the New Testament stated to have been written as late as 150 AD, meanwhile the Mishnah didn't exist until 217 AD. And, while the New Testament was "canonized" in 5th century AD, the Talmud was finalized a century later.
>One of the big motivating reasons for this was the whole circumcision thing, which happens to be a fable that was not, afaik, witnessed in any document prior to jesus's story in date of writing. Keep in mind I could be wrong about any of these. details, but its fascinating food for thought to me, since that and several other reasons are the main issue I take with god and his claims of ultimate morality.
Circumcision was widely practiced in the for centuries prior to Christ. In fact, the Egyptians are the ones credited with starting the practice as it did have a place in the old world (Like with kosher/halal butchering practices) due to the lack of hygienic and sanitation options.

>>303158
>Do you happen to know which book they're referring to? I thought it was one of the ones Paul wrote, to Corinthians, or Ephesians... having trouble pinpointing it. But it's good to know.
What you're talking about is in Romans, and it's a completely different context than the "Don't crossdress" law that Moses established. In fact, just to point out it's a different context, the Israelites (During their 40 years of wondering) actually developed a tradition where virgin teen girls would run off to the nearby mountains and have a hot night of lesbian sex. Until the book of Romans (Written over two millennia later), there was no condemnation towards women committing homosexuality, only men, so the Israelites (Being the Proto-Kikes they were more often than not) considered that loop-hole to be A-okay. In Romans, however, Paul spends his time pointing out that the corruption hos gotten out of control in the Roman empire, and actually takes the time to condemn lesbian homosexuality, equating it to the sin of male homosexuality.

>>303168
A lot of pastors and bishops don't even teach the bible anymore. They just read their favorite parts. Even more, part of the reason
got tired of the Catholic church was because they kept telling stories that didn't exist in the Bible, nor in recorded history.

>>303187
>What I said is that despite climate change being a scam, in order to believe it is true and a problem you have to have the mental capacity to understand inadvertent effects can be damaging to you and your society from your own wasteful and ignorant behavior.
In that particular example, no it does not. If you actually looked at the state of the climate change propaganda train, how it works is that they have their (((approved scientists))) repeating lies to the public in order to scare and control them, and then those groups propose various solutions and tell people that "This is the only way we can save our planet", so people get invest in those scams (Naively believing that they made a difference despite whatever to the contrary) and they feel good at the end of the day because "We helped the environment". If you want to look at the latest scam, there's the "green hedge funds": https://lbry.tv/@johnstossel:7/the-socially-responsible-scam:4
Besides, if these people actually DID care about the environment, they'd be all for fracking, nuclear, and geothermal energy. But, they're not. They're opposed to it because the (((approved scientists))) all criticize those alternatives.
>normie
And, you can go back to Cuckchan, faggot!

>>303243
>how come trannies aren't human?
<Pic related

>>303263
This makes me glad because people of this nature will be dying from all sorts of things - vaccines, refugee massacres etc... And those articles show exactly why I don't feel pity for them. They are better off dead.

The whole society is not worth rooting for since it consists of total dumbasses of this calibre. So sit back and enjoy the apocalyse, knowing somewhere in the world there is a trans boy with a cut penis wishing to kill himself, a refugee activist molesting a girl who supported immigration, disbled man with a skin rash yelling in agonizing pain who thought that vaccines are good for him.

Let those assholes get what they deserve. You're only goal should be keeping yourself safe in times like this.

>>303260
>I'm calling bullshit because the Greeks literally had Olympic games just for women, and much of Christianity is highly influenced by the Greeks.
Call bullshit all you want I guess. the ebb and flow of societal change has enough room for both of us to be correct, but over all what I am describing is the state of affairs in the dark ages of Europe and after. I also know for sure that the translation of the crossdressing line specifically referenced things and accoutrement , and since tools and things are attached to roles, the implication is on gender roles, not just clothing.

>The Torah is the five books of Moses, the first five books in the Old Testament. What you're probably thinking of is the Talmud, which is an expansion of the Mishnah, which is a complete rewrite of the Hebrew Bible (The Old Testament) in order to preserve pharisee laws and and philosophy, and condemns Christ to Hell for being heretic.
No, I am not, I am referencing the aspects of the bible that refer to circumcision and other stories, which cannot, to the best of my limited knowledge, be sourced to any existing pre Christian text. The idea behind that assertion is of course if the old testament is largely or somewhat incomplete in terms of prechristian sources, then it wouldn't necissarily be a good idea to take the reprints that came after from (((them))) at face value.

The story in particular that this claim was made about is the one where the allmighty and all good commands a human being to slice off childrens peepees and every children thereafter as part of a deal to him. Seems like the kind of thing moloch would be known for, not god, but I am not going to sit here and say I am correct, only that if you consider this to be wrong it would be great if you could explain how instead of just cross your arms and sulk.

>Circumcision was widely practiced in the for centuries prior to Christ. In fact, the Egyptians are the ones credited with starting the practice as it did have a place in the old world (Like with kosher/halal butchering practices) due to the lack of hygienic and sanitation options.
I cannot in any way seriously take this kind of fable seriously. Plenty of cultures come up with wild ass reasons to do things that are absolutely barbaric. There is no actual utility to be had here.
>>303261
literally nothing you said has anything to do with my arguement. All good lies contain elements of the truth, and in this instance the truth is that human beings can negatively influence their own life, society, and environment, through careless or stupid actions that seem mildly inconsequential because they don't directly affect the person doing it negatively right now.

>And, you can go back to Cuckchan, faggot!
Given you seem to be one of the many awful people I encounter in my day to day life that are mentally incapable of understanding abstract concepts in place of screetching your rhetoric after being triggered by buzzwards, I wont inflict you on cuckchan, Go back to twitter.

>>303181
>logically speaking it would intuitively be easier to change your persona rather than bodily functioning, much like the difference between installing and uninstalling software and tinkering inside a computer's case.
Your brain isn't a desktop computer, it's an evolved ASIC. Most things are chosen before your birth. That probably includes "gender" tendencies.

>>303187
>I also find it kind of suspect when people say things like just change your mind. In some ways this is not an impossible task, but there is something fundamentally inhuman about it, because you could say the same for just about anything
It's not really comparable, liking a show (something that benefits you), and having self-made mental distress over something you can't change, especially not without serious harm to yourself.

And it is self-caused. Ballooning in cases is a social effect, not biological. "MtF"s that are gay (male on male) have typical gay male brains, and "MtF"s that are straight (male on female) have typical autistic brains (autogynophilia).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/

>>303280
The Greeks basically just viewed the bottom as the gay one in niche cases (mostly pederasty) and didn't care beyond that. Jewish history has distorted that into them all being homo fags

>>303280
>I cannot in any way seriously take this kind of fable seriously
It's not about it being barbaric, it's an evolved cultural trait that serves you good in the environment you evolved for. Once you move people around and mix them up, they all clash and don't work anymore.

>There is no actual utility to be had here
There's as much reason to think there's utility as there's probably utility with your earlobes. Can't really tell you what, but I know evolution is smarter than any of us are. Evolved traditions have a tendency to be there for a reason. In animals the genes are the reproductive agent and evolve for their own benefit, with culture, people are the reproductive agents and without a coercive force (every kind of modernism, Christianity, Islam, etc) it's to the benefit of the people.

>>303281
>There's as much reason to think there's utility as there's probably utility with your earlobes. Can't really tell you what
the fact that you have a strong opinion on something like this when we have scientific evidence of the harm it does cause to the penis itself shows that the damage is not in any way to anyones benefit but the (((one))) sucking the blood right out of it

How unbelievable that the tranny is the only one arguing against circumcision in this thread. really gets my noggin joggin

>>303263
So basically: male, female, special snowflake.
>>303280
>There is no actual utility to be had here.
Allegedly helps against sand, which is rough, coarse and gets under the foreskin. Which is Very BadTM. Obviously it's bullshit to circumcise anyone outside a desert, and USA circumcision wasn't even for deserts, it's because Kellogg is a Christian piece of shit who wanted to cut off pieces of children's genitals so they can't masturbate (yes, girls too, but because society is blatantly women-placating it wasn't kept).
>>303281
>Your brain isn't a desktop computer, it's an evolved ASIC.
It's only partially an ASIC, because it's reprogrammable to a certain extent - any learning of new abilities does exactly that, but it does reprogram certain specialized areas (e.g. if you're born blind, the "seeing" parts won't vanish or respecialize, "hearing", "touch", etc ones will get larger and more complex instead)
>That probably includes "gender" tendencies.
Which most likely is a hormone glitch during brain development.
>"MtF"s that are gay (male on male) have typical gay male brains, and "MtF"s that are straight (male on female) have typical autistic brains (autogynophilia).
How the fuck do you get that from the study? What it actually SAYS is that homo transsexuals have both female-like and nonsexual brain differences, while hetero trannies only have nonsexual differences.
>The Greeks basically just viewed the bottom as the gay one in niche cases (mostly pederasty)
Greeks considered it gay to get penetrated by someone of equal or lower social standing, and not gay otherwise. A.k.a. russian prison homosexuality - only the bottom is subhuman faggot, top is totally straight and not gay despite fucking a male.

>>303287
P.S. It's also complete bullshit to circumcise babies, because before puberty foreskin is not separated from the glans, doesn't have a gap and can't move, and hence can't get any sand under it - not to mention that there's too little foreskin in the first place, and so grave errors that cut off too much are possible (and IRL tend to make idiots double down and cut the whole dick of the baby off).

>>303287
>Sand
>Fucking sand
I have literally never, ever had a problem with sand in my foreskin and I was taken to the beach once a fortnight without failure for 12 whole fucking years. There is precisely zero reason to cut it off, even for hygiene as it takes not even half a fucking minute to wash in the shower, and it doesn't even require that much maintenance.

For any of you thinking of buying his bullshit about sand and other small objects, the foreskin does more to protect your urethra from particulates like that, which is more than likely its primary evolutionary purpose. People who were circumcised are actually at even greater risk of UTI infections and transmission of STDs when immersed in bodies of water than someone who isn't. We don't go cutting off people's eyelids to make cleaning their eyes easier.

>>303290
Is it true that jews invented circumcision so they'd have an excuse to succ... well, you know, the thing they cut and suck during their ritual?

>>303292
No, it's a purity thing, they did it to stop boys and men from being tempted into masturbating because it was impure in the eyes of god. Punishment and self flagellation over human impurity is a massive part of the various Abrahamic faiths, a lot of people forget that the biggest critic of the jews and their ways had always been god himself and that OT god was an angry, vindictive motherfucker. You should look up some of the weird ass fucking punishments their religious texts outline for stuff like even thinking unclean thoughts, it's insane, they're insane. Don't ask me why the secular jews still practice it, though I imagine a lot of the reason has to do with the fact doctors get paid to perform the procedure.

>>303278
Indeed.

>>303281
>Your brain isn't a desktop computer, it's an evolved ASIC. Most things are chosen before your birth. That probably includes "gender" tendencies.
I'm not really in the right frame of mind to be reading a study at the moment; I'll get back to you if I get around to it and take issue with something. Though lots of homosexuality and transgenderism is something that's learned. There have been case studies of AGP men becoming that way during puberty from an otherwise normal childhood because of poor outcomes with romantic relationships with females in their youths, and then having an autoerotic experience involving the clothes of the opposite sex around the same time, while avoiding sexual contact with other males, thus binding sexual attraction to the clothing as well as the females themselves.

>It's not really comparable, liking a show (something that benefits you), and having self-made mental distress over something you can't change, especially not without serious harm to yourself.
The tranny was misunderstanding me in the statement you're responding to, he's not quite as clever as he thinks he is. Nowhere did I say, or should I have said, "simply change your mind." But I would also take issue with the idea that the distress is necessarily "self-made," since AGP often tends to fall upon a continuum that often doesn't result in someone undergoing mutilative surgery if they reel in their desires and stop crossdressing, or at least keep it under wraps before it's too late.
I think a lot of it comes from re-education, people's preconceived dispositions being only a part of that. As much as we would like to think our will is unbending, it often has quite a lot to do with the situations we find ourselves in, if only temporarily. The problem I outlined in my OP being that they're given estrogen which changes their worldviews considerably before they're given a chance to think about it for themselves, and then they end up being stuck there until they're convinced to invest further in their sickness since it seemed to alleviate their social pains last time, getting themselves to dig a deeper hole, if you will.

>>303290
Do you not understand the difference between "being on beach once per two weeks" and "LITERALLY LIVING IN A DESERT"? Where you'll be spending weeks and months without access to any kind of water sources, during travels between oases?

>>303293
They practice it because 1: tradition and 2: most of the society is just as insane as OT god and likes to pretend they're divinity. Read up on child abuse and it becomes blatantly obvious why religion is the way it is.
>>303290
Also, again, it's irrelevant before puberty so you have to specify whether those "12 whole fucking years" were before you turned ~14 or not.

>>303301
It is a tradition, but the initial purpose that gave rise to the tradition to begin with was to punish impurity and/or scour any possible temptation that could lead to sin, as they do because jews were a lot more self aware back when they were coming up with this shit. They knew how shitty they were as a people and religion, specifically the brutal and punishing kinds, were often used as a simple form of social conditioning. It kind of worked, at least until they came up with pilpul as a means to reinterpret their own texts however they wanted.

>it becomes blatantly obvious why religion is the way it is.
Okay atheist. Not all religions are fucking insane, many of them are actually relatively normal, closer to being philosophical schools of thought and simple aesops meant to impart wisdom than the abrahamic faith's obsession with self flagellation, or the pagan religions that revolved around ritual sacrifice to magic the world to their liking.

Column A, column B. It's still as protective against small particulates such as sand now as it was back then, anyone arguing for the removal of foreskin for hygiene reasons is a retard or is pretty deep in coping over their mutilated dick. As I said, we don't remove eyelids to help keep the eyeballs clean. Similar protective sheaths can easily be observed in the animal kingdom even, one example being horses, where instead of the foreskin folding over the urethra of exposed genitals, the genitalia itself retracts into the body, an inverse process to what humans have. Look at any mammal, and you'll see parallel evolution of a means to protect the genitals from exposure everywhere.

>>303260
>The PROBLEM is that the people making decisions about what media gets developed are solely focused on strip societies of any semblance of culture or identity, and replacing it with their (((approved ideology))).
We're in agreement here, though they do wield tremendous influence, and that can't be understated.

>Part of the problem was ACTUALLY society ITSELF. Thanks to the Enlightenment thinking of the past several centuries, first-world citizens having been suffering from mental breakdowns in absolutely staggering numbers...
You're not wrong, but I would be cautious myself about blaming society at large for this one. Perhaps it came about due to enlightenment thinking, as you've mentioned, and that was inevitable, but I don't think we can really hold the people born into these situations as accountable, exactly. To save my own sanity I think I would choose to believe that it was due to the corrosive influence of (((Faustian interests))) rather than people being sheep and wanting a simple solution. I find myself wanting the same thing, a simple solution, is what I'm trying to say, and I'm no masochist, nor do I fashion myself as a cynic. Lots of the medicating happens as a result of other people pushing to give them that simple solution, as well, and them just finally breaking down and giving in since they can't handle their already oppressive obligations.

>However, this has backfired since because now you have Holier-than-though doctors, who think everything can be solved with a pill, and want to do nothing but fuel their god complexes.
You said it, brother. Medical tyranny is real.

>>303313
The hilarious thing about the whole medicating deal as it relates to trannies is that if they were given the hormones that correspond with their biological sex, the dysphoria would vanish. We know for a fact that hormones regulate many aspects of behaviour, especially as it relates to the sexes, this easy, simple solution is staring everybody right in the face and no one goes for it.

>>303295
>doesn't understand psychosomatic even after being told to go look it up,
>proceeds to defend circumcision and other bullshit
>calls me the dumb one
(((you)))

>>303316
Doesn't work for everyone some trannys hormones are perfectly fine

>>303283
I agree, circumcision is bad. It might make sense in a desert (and that's not really a point I care about, it might also be a top-down imposed thing like an anon said in this thread), but like I said, when you move about the things you evolved for stop making sense.

>>303287
>Which most likely is a hormone glitch during brain development.
Why? Gays have that to some degree, but I think it's more antibodies and evolved sexual antagonisms than hormones. Straight MtFs have the opposite, they're typically more male, which ties into autism and the masculine brain explanation of it.

And regardless, it's impossible to deny it's to a very very large degree social. 2% of youth turned tranny in 10 years and 10% are some kind of LGBT. There's no way this is genetic or developmental.

>How the fuck do you get that from the study?
Ye, I guess I should have elaborated further. Gays have more female typical brains, and the hetero group has more masculine autistic tendencies (not shown there but lines up with Blanchard).
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/study-says-brains-of-gay/
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-020-00489-z

>>303295
I agree.

>>303316
I think it's actually entirely a mental thing. People treat "gender identity" like something that's just obviously important at the outset, but there's no reason for it to be. Nobody cuts their dick off from the stress of not being labelled as the national identity they like. It's arbitrary and pointless. They can be effeminate men and be happy with it, it doesn't need to mean they're women.

>>303280
>I am referencing the aspects of the bible that refer to circumcision and other stories, which cannot, to the best of my limited knowledge, be sourced to any existing pre Christian text.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Circumcision
<The earliest historical record of circumcision comes from Egypt, in the form of an image of the circumcision of an adult carved into the tomb of Ankh-Mahor at Saqqara, dating to about 2400–2300 BCE.
>the truth is that human beings can negatively influence their own life, society, and environment, through careless or stupid actions that seem mildly inconsequential because they don't directly affect the person doing it negatively right now
The actions you were describing in regards to climate change retards is NOT inconsistent. It's all rather simple: they just wanted to feel good about themselves. That is it. Sort of like what you're doing here:
>Given you seem to be one of the many awful people I encounter in my day to day life that are mentally incapable of understanding abstract concepts in place of screetching your rhetoric after being triggered by buzzwards
Where your entire retort can be boiled down to:
<You don't have a "high enough IQ" to understand what I'm saying.
I know exactly what you're saying. And, why waste the time responding to something with 10,000 when only 12 will suffice: you are an idiot, you are a faggot, and go kill yourself.

>>303281
>That probably includes "gender" tendencies.
You mean SEXUAL tendencies. "Gender" is a term that only applies to the sexuality of words used in languages, not physical sexual characteristics and actions. And, this definition didn't change until John Money came along.
>The Greeks basically just viewed the bottom as the gay one in niche cases (mostly pederasty) and didn't care beyond that. Jewish history has distorted that into them all being homo fags
Actually, there's much dispute over Greek homosexuality. On the one hand, much of the depiction of the "Greek gay utopia" was a fairytale, with no real sources or records used for references, started by Oscar Wilde to justify himself being a fag: https://archive.vn/VT7lO
It's almost equivalent to Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae in regards to relating actual history. Then, on the other, you do have records relating that the Spartans engage in homosexuality as part of a training ritual, but said ritual only became widespread towards the end of Sparta's existence: https://archive.vn/Xzewy
>It's not about it being barbaric, it's an evolved cultural trait that serves you good in the environment you evolved for. Once you move people around and mix them up, they all clash and don't work anymore.
Why not just say outright that much of what we take for granted today (Printed paper, basic hygiene, understanding of illnesses, instant worldwide communication, etc.) didn't exist 500-700 years ago. In fact, the ONLY thing that's really stayed the same is just mathematics and astronomy.
>Evolved traditions have a tendency to be there for a reason.
You're talking to someone who doesn't care about that. That's the way society has been progressing since the Renaissance, throwing the baby out with the bathwater because "We're smarter than previous civilizations, therefore we're exceptional to all their rules". Meanwhile, today, I learned about the Babylonian comedy that is Sardanapalus: https://infogalactic.com/info/Sardanapalus

>>303300
Like I said there's also the fact that MUCH OF WHAT EXISTS TODAY DIDN'T EXIST FIVE TO SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS AGO. And, any knowledge that did exist proving or disproving that all went up in smoke thanks to the Mudslimes erasing history.

>>303305
>because jews were a lot more self aware back when they were coming up with this shit
No, they were not. The Kikes were demanding to return to Egypt and slavery the MINUTE they were freed from Egypt.
>Not all religions are fucking insane
So, we're going to ignore other prestigious nations doing insane shit, Carthage killing off the entire royal family to please the Gods?
>closer to being philosophical schools of thought and simple aesops meant to impart wisdom
The Greeks, the "originators" of philosophy, believed that admitting defeat during an Olympic sport was a great dishonor, so they literally beat each other to death in order to preserve their honor and glory to the Gods.

>>303324
>>303325
>It might make sense in a desert, but like I said, when you move about the things you evolved for stop making sense.
Which did eventually happen when Paul declared that followers of Christ no longer needed to be physically circumcised.

>>303281
>There's as much reason to think there's utility as there's probably utility with your earlobes.
<I don't know how to clean a dick, therefore circumcision ever had a purpose.
As for earlobes, IIRC, they help with directional sound. Can't find a source offhand though. They're hardly some mystery organ.
>Evolved traditions have a tendency to be there for a reason.
Keyword "tendency", not "invariably".
>In animals the genes ... evolve for their own benefit
>with culture ... it's to the benefit of the people.
Not that simple. Neutral traits can stick around, as they aren't selected against. Also, traits can have positive and negative effects at the same time, and as long as the negatives aren't too bad it will stick around.
As for circumcision, the "benefit" was, at most, sharpening the in-group/out-group distinction. Cleaning a dick isn't rocket science. It's unclear if you don't have one, or don't actually ever bother to clean it.

>>303325
>when you move about things you evolved for.
It doesn't matter where you are, humans get dirty anon. if anything a desert is a great place to stay clean because you can take a bath without fear of freezing to death when water is available.
>The actions you were describing in regards to climate change retards is NOT inconsistent. It's all rather simple: they just wanted to feel good about themselves. That is it. Sort of like what you're doing here:
god you are absolutely retarded, no I am not trying to feel good about myself, and no, you do have an iq of a fucking peanut. The only thing I get when confronted again and again with people who have every reason to be able to be smarter than me but continue to bash their head on their keyboard instead of engage their brains in any way at all because a buzzword or trigger thing that makes them assrage comes into view is frustration and depression, please off yourself and stop quoting my posts while prattling about your nonsequitors.

>>303337
forgot to link this zigger

>>303357
>when water is available
That's kinda the main problem in a desert.

>>303316
Is that really true? Chart here on masturbation says supplements won't work unless you've got a bit of a peculiar hormonal chemistry to start with.

>>303322
It's always a good time to make your peace with God, you know. Doesn't take a genius to see what's going on here. He is listening with a compassionate ear, in case you want to say a couple words; regardless of if you think you'd just waste a bit of breath. If and when you're ready; unironically in case that's not already clear.

>>303325
>They can be effeminate men and be happy with it, it doesn't need to mean they're women.
It would be good for novel writing, I can tell you that. The 19th century was filled with melodramatic men, also some of the best, most long-winded, emotion-filled stories to grace the earth. In fact, I'd consider having an eye for beauty in general largely under the purview of femininity as well. Rather than tell them they're women, we need more unashamedly feminine men to start up a high art scene, for crying out loud.

>>303362
>It's always a good time to make your peace with God, you know. Doesn't take a genius to see what's going on here. He is listening with a compassionate ear, in case you want to say a couple words; regardless of if you think you'd just waste a bit of breath. If and when you're ready; unironically in case that's not already clear.
nice non sequitur christlarper, Feel free to answer for why you believe god needs your foreskin
>>303359
it's actually a problem everywhere, the real issue in the desert for water management is needing more of it because of the dry heat while said heat makes it harder for you to find foods and vegetables that can keep you hydrated. We are also talking about water pre-society for homonids you know. that literally demands that water be available at least every 2 days otherwise they aren't going to be in that part of the desert at all. we're not camels.

>>303370
I am upset by this and now I will file it away deep in my unconscience in the hopes that my leg is being pulled.
Jesus fucking Christ dude.

>>303370
And the reaction from government servants, being on the right or the left, at the top or the button, armed or disarmed, is... crickets. By the way, more than sure those leeches will kick into action if the money and privileges they leech are threatened.

>>303362
Saved.

Trannies have a mental disorder called gender dysphoria.

Don't celebrate them, help them get the psychiatric help they desperately need before they kill themselves!

Now that I think a bit more about it, a tranny's anger is (((their))) ultimate weapon in the destruction and pollution of intellectual spheres, since they have all the driving rage of a man who's been lied to enough about the solution to their depressive tendencies to allow for their sexual organs to be mutilated and to be disgraced in public as something they're not, and manifest that anger in a more feminine capacity than your typical man or eunuch would; that tending to mean utterly disagreeable and dissatisfied with any opinion that paints them as something less than a beautiful angel or a saint, regardless of whether their residual male persona will let them admit it outwardly (in fact they often do). Furthermore, in an intellectual space, a feminine aptitude for social game-playing is a (supposed) advantage rather than disadvantage, and the destructive tendencies of rage all but guarantee some degree of intellectual discussion breaking down; on the internet, it's very often not so simple as a swordfight or a duel. Even the most profound kernels of truth, or especially the deepest cuts from a zinger are going to see the conversation drag on far past their most efficient expiry.
Curiously, they still seem to adhere to logic as much as a man typically would, it's just that there's some sort of ironically hyperfeminine veneer that's glazed over their true male self; the picture of a glamorous, shiny, pink and blue box containing coldly poisonous mind-altering chemicals, as showcased in >>303370, seeming to be a decent metaphor; additionally if you've ever had the displeasure of watching a Contrapoints video, you must know what I'm talking about. It's the ultimate wedge inserted into an otherwise harmonious group of people, and it's deeply saddening for just about everyone involved.

>>303409
I'm starting to put together a theory about how a lot of (((their))) attacks and subversions are about targeting people's sense of identity.

The trans stuff is obvious enough. The SJWs based their identity on their "virtue". Their whole worldview was based on on the cult that offered them power and authority over others, self-righteousness without needing to do any work on themselves, a concept of good and evil that was extremely simple, and no real need for consistency.

Another of the attacks are harder to define, like the infestation and gradual ruination of businesses. Most obviously, large corporations that have Human Resources departments, and all the diversity quotas. There's also the ADHD surge, followed, buy the autism surge, followed by the trans insanity.

Something to note is now women's roles were the first target, and that the main target seems to be men. This may have something to do with why the bible's story has the serpent talking to Eve first, and then getting Eve to convince Adam to break the rules.

It's all a bit jumbled in my head at the moment, and I'm sure there's plenty more information to correlate, but I'm sure I'm on to something here.

>>303353
>Not that simple. Neutral traits can stick around, as they aren't selected against. Also, traits can have positive and negative effects at the same time, and as long as the negatives aren't too bad it will stick around.
Purely negative traits also stay as long as they take effect AFTER someone procreates.
This is turbo accelerated today with letting genetic degenerates not just survive (NICUs) but have sex as well, and having sex with healthy people dilutes shit genes enough for them to spread into the genepool. Same applies to memes, they need to be lethal before their bearers can pass them on to die off.
>>303357
>a desert is a great place to stay clean because you can take a bath without fear of freezing to death
Ironic considering how northerners (scandinavians, finns, slavs) were cleaner than the rest of Europe because they had saunas/banyas.
Fun fact about slavs: Before Peter the Great, they were rampantly homosexual, with multiple records of foreigner impressions of faggots being at every strata of slav society.
>>303364
People don't live in places where water isn't present, hence qanats (arabic underground aqueducts) and oases. The problem with water is carrying it around BETWEEN oases.
>We are also talking about water pre-society for homonids you know
>~4k years ago at max
>pre-society
>>303370
Japan was a mistake. Someone please invent time machine and go back and prevent Oda Nobunaga from being assassinated, as he planned to convert Japan to Christianity and I think that would be very beneficial for them.

>>303409
I was linked to a video that summarized a couple of posts on twitter that talked a little bit about trans stuff. The speaker / writer was a trans-exclusionary radical feminist. Conclusions aside, some of the theorizing was interesting.

The basic idea is that you have these people, and their lives are miserable for whatever reason. Maybe they've been taught wrong, maybe there's chemicals in the water, maybe they're sensitive to society being extremely fucked up but just aren't able to connect enough dots to make sense of it, or what have you. The point is, they want some kind of a change to make things "better". You then get some people that say "become trans, and things will get better!".

They end up eroticizing the idea of being a woman. They see that all the societal advantages and social structures screw over men (especially if they're not part of the rainbow coalition) while benefiting anything feminine. Maybe they masturbate to femboy porn, futa, or gangbang stuff and fantasize about being the woman. Once they start crossdressing and roleplaying, the trans persona starts to be more of a mental ritual to disassociate from themselves. Their real selves. From reality. Other people are just props in their fantasy scenario, and anything they do that goes against the script is like a drug addict getting knocked out of their blissful state.

The term used was AGP addiction. AutoGynoPhilia. Sexual arousal from becoming a woman.

Anyway, the video can explain things better than I can. It's 23mb. It's got 190 views on YT, but I don't really want to send views their way. The twitter thread under discussion is at https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1171239053867569152.html. A pdf print of the page is in the post. The video is at sd9CRfZLCV4 if you really want to watch the read through of the thread.

I don't remember exactly where I found the link to the video, but it was more interesting than I expected.

>>303427
Russia fags always split fucking hairs. stop pretending you don't understand we agree please.
>Ironic considering how northerners (scandinavians, finns, slavs) were cleaner than the rest of Europe because they had saunas/banyas.
Wasn't' aware of this but I believe it.
>>303370
Ironically there is a mild chance this stuff is actually less terrible for you than (((pharmacy))) products shipped in form (((our greatest ally))). I need to look into making my own so I don't have to fund groomers or them.

>>303429
I think its powerfully ironic that people used to regard feminists as being women with penis envy. No matter how many bad things i learn about my degenerate ingroup, a bunch of salty feminists' getting a heaping dose of what they did to mens spaces for decades and then crying about it will never not be funny.

Wake the fuck up America.

>>303411
I wrote out a whole post and then clicked on the PDF link, so I guess all of that got lost, but I did agree with you on most stuff. I guess I can try to rewrite some of the things in summary of what I was saying.

>Something to note is now women's roles were the first target, and that the main target seems to be men. This may have something to do with why the bible's story has the serpent talking to Eve first, and then getting Eve to convince Adam to break the rules.
I agree, I think this form of ideological subversion goes as such: women are "liberated" from the kitchen and go to work for a cold corporation instead, which can't love them the way a man would, so they get incredibly disturbed and start buying more and more things with newfound money, which tends to be more and more degenerate as time goes on because they're trying to fix a bottomless pit in their hearts. They follow societal trends above everything else, so they won't realize they've been had and just keep doing what everyone else is doing because it's fashionable.

>The basic idea is that you have these people, and their lives are miserable for whatever reason.
The tremendous amount of nagging coming from the type of rage-filled woman above being put into a newfound position of power, with the constant threat of being fired for having a differing opinion, would do that to most men, I think. I would imagine just about anypony in Starlight's Village would be miserable, as well.

>They see that all the societal advantages and social structures screw over men (especially if they're not part of the rainbow coalition) while benefiting anything feminine.
I imagine it goes something like (((them))) setting fire to a building, and then blaming the men when they finally have had enough and decide to jump out to the partial death of their masculine identity. A lot of the problem seems to stem from the fact that conservatives can't see that these people are sick, much like those addicted to narcotics; but then again I can't really blame them for now wanting to deal with spiteful troons all the time. The point being that (((they))) are playing the dissonant ideals of society off of each other, and it's working.

>The term used was AGP addiction. AutoGynoPhilia. Sexual arousal from becoming a woman.
While I wouldn't say that's wrong, that's probably what I'd call it too, but the fact that this is coming from a TERF is bad news. Feminists of all stripes exhibit the same kind of nagging behavior that can just about only come from severe family issues, doesn't matter if they accept trannies as women or not, and nagging and daddy issues are kind of how we got into this situation in the first place. They can say "I hope that you won't take hormones and call yourself a woman," but anything past that is them trying to "fix" a man, if you know what I mean, which is the problem we're trying to solve here, quite literally in many unfortunate cases.

>He would get no pleasure from dressing as women if he had substantial empathy for them. Crossdressing wouldn’t take him away from himself if he didn’t believe that women thought & felt completely different than men do. He must “other” women in order to reach that non-self place.
Case in point, this makes no sense whatsoever to me, it reads like doublethink newspeak. I think that Tyler Durden wasn't so far off when he said we were fighting a spiritual war here, it's just his solution I disagree with, speaking strictly about a path of internal growth (so as to avoid talking about the doings of Project Mayhem, for which I have no comment). Support groups for former trannies, as in something like a spiritual 12 Step program, which often deal explicitly with God or a Higher Power of your understanding, might actually not be such a bad idea; just keep the feminists out of its inception, please, and as far away as possible afterwards while I'm at it. The problem doesn't get better fighting fire with fire, just as nagging won't undo the damage done by nagging. The woman writing this might have some good points in there but to listen to her talk about it feels like I'm going to have to read another CNN article.

Picrelated makes me think of what could've been if the Narrator knew about friendship instead. I really have to pick up that book sometime.

>>303498
Includes responding to >>303429, as well, my mistake.

Openly going after the children.
The "authorities" who keep us at gun point from doing anything are looking the other way.

>>303508
Are you going to show these pictures to Christian websites to try and shake people out of the "comfortable conservative do-nothing who conserves nothing" mindset?

Trannies are basically far-left incels. Both seem to hate themselves. Both seem to hate their perceive best version of themselves. Both hate women. They are facets of opposite ideological spectrums but both have the core mentality of hating yourself. Look at how they freak out when you go to tranny subreddits and post pictures of actual women.

>>303510
Incels are exaggerated. They're just sad men who complain a lot. Incels aren't trying to use govt force and societal shaming to pressure people into fucking them but trannies are. Calling trannies incels is unironically an insult to incels.

>>303664
>pic 4-5
Well played. With 113-131 genders, it certainly seems like SS time. Sk is technically more accurate, so there will be an sks in the bunker for memes in the least, but SS seems to be the way

>>303498
While we disagree on a few minor things you deserve praise for this thoughtful and compassionate post anon

>>303668
personally I think the ss meme is a false flag to try and drag down the optics. The strength in this movement is in getting normies to pile on in the largest numbers possible after all,

>>303670
want to clarify for any trolls and retards I am only refering to the friendship emblem, not superstraight

>>303669
You'll have to excuse me if I take that with a grain of salt; that coming from someone whom, if I'm not mistaken, has called me something like despicable.

>>303675
Sorry if you are actually reprehensible? I don't pay much attention to (((ids)))

>>303670
I would remind you that /po/ is a NatSoc board.
/pol/ did not and will not cater to normies ever. Optics belong to Leddit.

>>303685
Missing the point anon. Do you need to be reminded about no phase 2?
We want to have superchargedstraight be as popular and unassailable as iotbw. Attaching nazi paraphernalia for it may be comfy and kino to us, but all psi ops we have done to damage the jew have always been so dangerous because it has universal appeal.

>>303687
Memes evolve and their genesis can't be watered down, but I agree with you that down the road they might require some adjustments.

>>303688
Holobunga caveman holocaust memes are great for shaking people's faith in that hoax
Why do you think they work so well?

>>303498
>Lost the long, good reply in the comment box
I really hate it when that happens. Remember, a simple series of shortcuts can bring up a notepad window. Win + R, and then type "notepad" and press enter.

>The woman writing this might have some good points in there but to listen to her talk about it feels like I'm going to have to read another CNN article.
Yes. I was surprised at seeing a couple of good points from a feminist. I concur with you about disagreeing with how she was putting most of those ideas together, or part of the base reasoning behind them.

One of the things about Feminism at it's core is the rejection of the idea that there are innate differences between men and women. From that perspective, we can say that Feminism led to trans stuff.

I also heard a good video from TheFourthAge (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsmgy_rfqOlAz6R_wFLJzmg) about how he traced the origin of Feminism to Nietzsche-ian philosophy. Nietzche's "will to power" idea was apparently exclusive to men, as women had too much of a herd follower
and "don't rock the boat" instinct to really qualify for that kind of putting yourself out there. Therefore, women were jealous of the power he ascribed to men, and wanted that kind of unlimited "the world is whatever I want it to be" power. So, women were masculized. Unfortunately, even the most feminine normal man back in those days were still far, FAR more masculine than even the most masculine woman, so they had to simultaneously sabotage and effeminize as many men as possible and as deeply as possible. I should really find that specific link at some point. It was a good video.

>>303676
>Sorry if you are actually reprehensible?
I would be, yes.

>I don't pay much attention to (((ids)))
Nor do I, although there's at least two of us that appear to be switching them decently often enough within this very thread, and it's not all that hard to pinpoint someone's persona if you look close enough.

>>303692
>Remember, a simple series of shortcuts can bring up a notepad window. Win + R, and then type "notepad" and press enter.
I really should make use of the added real estate of a second monitor, it's just that the terminal looked so 1337 next to /mlpol/. There's really no need for it to take up all that space, though. Splitscreen it is.

>One of the things about Feminism at it's core is the rejection of the idea that there are innate differences between men and women. From that perspective, we can say that Feminism led to trans stuff.
Oh yeah. There's been a quote floating around of a Roman intellectual saying something about the day women and men are equal is the day that men are subjugated. It's not too hard to see why that's true, I think. Mental gymnastics come really easy to women, they break the rules of logic whenever it suits them, jump from one ill-begotten idea to the next, and wedge in a bunch of passive-aggressive insults to boot; it's really more like a war of attrition against a tireless opponent where if you fuck up they'll point out the flaw in your logic but they are able to just dance around and flaunt it before your eyes and act like it's cute or something (it goes without saying that it's very much not, it's actually very grotesque). It's really never in a man's best interest to argue with a woman; he has to tell her what she wants to hear and then do whatever needs be done anyway, and they'll forgive him later for it (or better yet not need to because they're none the wiser) if he pulls it off.
The problems to come out of this mistake (taking a bite out of the apple) being rather predictable for a logical mind to see; God smacks us all upside the head and metaphorically banishes us out of the Garden of Eden for the nth time. The women trying to fix something, and all else involved, are destined for disaster, because they have not a clue what they're doing and end up fucking everything up and trying to claim everything's fine when it's clearly not. Women are focused on appearances, men on actions. That must be why we get men undergoing HRT and surgery, because all these naggy feminists are telling a man he needs to change so much that he finally tries to give them what they say they want, which is in effect the exact opposite of what they desperately need in spirit. The accelerant sweetness and nagging above and below their standards, respectively, is really strong, I think. You either "cut it" in their eyes, or you don't, and they'll either try to massage your ego or beat you over the head with passive-aggressive comments and behaviors ruthlessly based upon that simple classification. The latter being even more pronounced, however, since they never quite learn to stop trying to push a boundary and shit-test, for lack of a better term.
As far as the rejection of innate differences goes, I think the feminists know what they're doing when it comes to destruction of men and simultaneously want a man to put them in their place; but since they've been so damaged and gotten so good at nagging pretty much no man's gonna "cut it" for them, not that really any man would want to. Despite (indeed, because of) having all the facts they try to reject reality as much as possible as a way of calling out for help that won't come unless they turn to God first, work on their problems, and stop being naggy bitches that appear to permanently be on their "time of the month."

>I also heard a good video from TheFourthAge (link) about how he traced the origin of Feminism to Nietzsche-ian philosophy.
The link 404ed, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least. We're living the nightmare that Nietzsche predicted would happen all those decades ago, and as such there's been a massive shift to the practice of his proposed solution by all. The only problem I see being that the solution was deeply flawed; I haven't read enough of Nietzsche's works to back that claim up with a philosophical analysis, at least to my satisfaction, but that's the general intuition that I've gotten from it so far. It would probably be something along the lines of the rejection of God leading to men understanding existential concepts, with women being shielded by their own hubris and ignorance, and the resultant weakening of men by dread and "strengthening" of women, for lack of a better term, in taking control of things that they should never have gotten their (previously) delicate hands on.

>even the most feminine normal man back in those days were still far, FAR more masculine than even the most masculine woman
I know reminiscing for a past you know or don't know won't get you anywhere, but it would be really nice if they could learn to shut their mouths once in a while. I think that might be where God can come back into people's lives. If they can trust that He's going to take care of them, they might hold their peace a bit more. And, if men don't have to worry about his woman constantly thinking about the next best way to cuck him, he can get to focusing on more theoretical constructs and pull society forward, the way he always has. Feminism has really never done anypony any good, and I think (((they))) know that better than anybody.

>>303723
picture is showcasing a lie. Horses like slapping, not cuddling, not scratching. It's because the timy hair makes them itch in agony if their neck or face is being caressed. Instead, slap 'em, like you'd slap a slut. They like that shit.

here is a brief PSA if interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21hse2_LlXs&ab_channel=Abouthorses

>>303723
>persona
thats how I go off of as well, though I pay attention more towards content than tone.
ID swapping for me usually happens because I am out and about.

>>303730
I learnt something. Thanks.

>>303729
Hopefully the only lie of my post. That, and any others were unintentional. Though I thought you were just supposed to brush them IRL.

>>303723
>>303750
>Feminism has really never done anypony any good
A big, sweeping statement that I think amounts to the biggest flaw of my argument in the specified post. As much as it might sicken me to say it, with all the horrid dividends that it's returned, I think alongside the discovery of hydrogen weaponry there had to be a bit of a feminist chill in the worldwide social climate; otherwise we might be stuck with a nuclear winter instead.

>>303809
I would have to disagree. With that assessment of the situation.
>there had to be a bit of a feminist chill in the worldwide social climate; otherwise we might be stuck with a nuclear winter instead.
But, I'd like to know why you think that to be the case.

>>303810
>I would have to disagree. With that assessment of the situation.
That feminism hasn't done anyone any good? That's what I'm assuming you mean. Or is it that it has done somepony some good?

>But, I'd like to know why you think that to be the case.
Please allow me to explain with the help of a video. Please be advised, it's loud.
Men and masculinity are very often direct in their aggression, although we don't talk about it all that much, we just do it. It makes more sense to us to fight something out and have it overwith than act like we're friends long past the time it would've taken to hit, shoot at, or bomb one another to decide the outcome of an argument (please note that by making this statement I don't condone or advocate for any of this type of behavior, it's simply meant to be a hypothetical example). It tends to be something that is done via actions rather than words. With the invention of nuclear weaponry it became clear that for the sake of the planet, diplomacy and talking things out took center stage and we didn't blow it, and the rest of the world, to smithereens. I think after Armageddon there would be something like a nuclear-bomb induced winter, like an ice age theorized to occur afterwards.
I just related that concept to a hypothesized "feminist chill" because it seemed witty. On that subject, feminism often produces a chill in social spheres that's much like what communists advocate for, nothing ever gets done to avoid friction between people; they prioritize social cohesion above everything else that's more likely to avoid something like megatons and megatons of nuclear weaponry to be detonated in the most terrible of cases. At its extreme, the social climate freezes over like ice; people are trapped in their current social and intellectual position with nowhere to go, and nothing to say other than what everyone else says about Dear Leader. There's a reason the Soviets called it "the Motherland;" they were to be nurtured by the State no matter if they liked it or not. Any form of overt, visible aggression between people was utterly censured, and they all (nominally) got along like H2O molecules affixed in their crystallized place below freezing temperatures; the point being that with men there's lots of aggressive movement that can sometimes spark a hot fury, with women they tend to take more of a cohesive approach at the expense of calling a spade a spade and having a social circle freeze over with everyone affixed within their current intellectual and social places.

>intellectual and social places
Feels kind of awkwardly phrased but I hope you understand what I'm trying to convey.

Meantime IRL the cult is at it again.
>Activist Attacked On The Streets Of Montreal For Campaigning Against Giving Puberty Blockers To Children
>Chris Elston, an Activist from Vancouver known for campaigning against giving puberty blockers to children, was brutally attacked in Montreal on Friday night.
>The attack on Chris by violent leftists was caught on video.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/activist-attacked-streets-montreal-campaigning-giving-puberty-blockers-children/
https://twitter.com/christophelston/status/1370550679606018050
https://twitter.com/christophelston/status/1370550688787398660
https://twitter.com/christophelston/status/1370589588339617795
https://twitter.com/christophelston/status/1370890722786881544

MAP representation now!

>>303812
Sorry for the misunderstanding I ment to convey is what has feminism done that would be a related significant factor to ending the hostilities of the cold war I would like to know what that is. That's all.
>Please allow me to explain with the help of a video. Please be advised, it's loud.
Men and masculinity are very often direct in their aggression, although we don't talk about it all that much, we just do it. It makes more sense to us to fight something out and have it overwith than act like we're friends long past the time it would've taken to hit, shoot at, or bomb one another to decide the outcome of an argument (please note that by making this statement I don't condone or advocate for any of this type of behavior, it's simply meant to be a hypothetical example). It tends to be something that is done via actions rather than words. With the invention of nuclear weaponry it became clear that for the sake of the planet, diplomacy and talking things out took center stage and we didn't blow it, and the rest of the world, to smithereens. I think after Armageddon there would be something like a nuclear-bomb induced winter, like an ice age theorized to occur afterwards.
I just related that concept to a hypothesized "feminist chill" because it seemed witty. On that subject, feminism often produces a chill in social spheres that's much like what communists advocate for, nothing ever gets done to avoid friction between people; they prioritize social cohesion above everything else that's more likely to avoid something like megatons and megatons of nuclear weaponry to be detonated in the most terrible of cases. At its extreme, the social climate freezes over like ice; people are trapped in their current social and intellectual position with nowhere to go, and nothing to say other than what everyone else says about Dear Leader. There's a reason the Soviets called it "the Motherland;" they were to be nurtured by the State no matter if they liked it or not. Any form of overt, visible aggression between people was utterly censured, and they all (nominally) got along like H2O molecules affixed in their crystallized place below freezing temperatures; the point being that with men there's lots of aggressive movement that can sometimes spark a hot fury, with women they tend to take more of a cohesive approach at the expense of calling a spade a spade and having a social circle freeze over with everyone affixed within their current intellectual and social places.
Thanks.
My preview of that situation leads me to think that the destruction of almost everything would be a net negative as a whole. Multiple groups don't really want to live in a world wide shithole.
Ruling over a shithole planet without a subservient population is even worse.
They also didn't want to lose to ANYONE.
For the average citizen ensuring that you, your family, and your friends survive is a priority.*
*As with any war it has its profiteers, and one's doing it for the sake of 'global equality and balance'
To go into direct conflict with saber rattling would be suicide at that point in time without conduct agreed upon by all parties.
As such secrecy, information warfare, and spycraft are the tools employed on the whole. While spycraft stuffs may be considered a more 'feminine' aspect on war, and the role cemented by loyalty and reliability.
The feminine aspect extreme-ified turns to cult like behavior which did occur during those periods.

Any dissent was and is considered part of domestic enemy action. Which further stratified groups.
With constant fear of total destruction for the common populace disassociation from reality occurs more readily.
With that in mind, understanding of discrete psychological warfare, and more branching into occult research had to be conducted. And the proto-internet.

The potential for competition for the superpowers had to be limited to social, and scientific endeavors
Progessive ideologies and marxist and any sort of social work are front and center.
With that in mind, population control to prevent an internal uprising of brainwashed citizens is the domestic goal.

The 'righteousness' of not blowing the planet to smithereens and proxy wars are considered over all a good decision vs the other option.
From this context my view of feminism toward the overall goal of ending the cold war is tangential and not the direct action that leads to the end. A footnote if you will for that directive.
A grander purpose is that it's a mark of dominating the proxy populace as an unoffical point system.

>>303821
That wasn't the webm I thought it was.

>>303813
Did they find the guy? If not someone should post this on /pol/. Try to bag us another fat antifa fish.

>>303821
>webm
Lel.

>From this context my view of feminism toward the overall goal of ending the cold war is tangential and not the direct action that leads to the end.
I was in agreement with you throughout the whole post and then got a little confused when I read this part. But, on second thought I don't disagree. Maybe I would just say that it's indirect rather than tangential; a footnote here or there isn't all that unfair, if one would be inclined to write a report on it.
The fact that it's been pushed so hard today certainly has a lot to do with population control and cultlike behavior, and there are certainly moral entrepreneurs profiting and otherwise gaining from it, not to mention foreign and domestic threats of all stripes; my focus had been on a bit more a of a domino effect from the first wave, since I think the second wave hit after the overall tone of the Cold War had been set. All that being said I'm really only trying to play devil's advocate, since especially over the past ten years, (((feminism))) has been nigh-catastrophic in tearing people from one another.

>A grander purpose is that it's a mark of dominating the proxy populace as an unoffical point system.
Do you mean with and unofficial point system? Like in China? Where nuclear weaponry may be crude, psychological operations can certainly be no less destructive.

>>303963
Great video. Lets hope the tranny started to think a bit broader about things when exposed to the truth and not the constant hugbox propaganda that is pumped out.

>>303819

And I'm the Cartographer

>>304208
>Autogenocide
nice

It's Great When You're Superstraight..

>>304352
it looks wayyy too close to Mutualism

>>302847
fpbp

List of mental disorders.

>>305510
it seriously took them that long to take their mental disease to that conclusion?
i already thought of that nearly a year ago.

Phases of transvestites.

Does transracial count?
https://youtu.be/vAOfY3lw0Qc
She injected Niggertonium 14-50 into her melanin glands