/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

These are obligatory, Second one I found on endchan. Shows that kikes really hate christianity with a passion.

>>296570
If you've ever been to a church they rarely ever use the word "Christianity" they always speak of their denomination's name instead, that way they avoid "Christ"

>>296571
christianity is a globalist term yes, it was invented to create an atmosphere perfect for subverting christian churches, I'd love to redpill /pol/ on this matter even though I'm pagan, but I dont think they will ever listen to me on any topic really.

>>296571
I'm just gonna say this, Using the name "Yahshua" instead of Jesus is really dumb. The bible said we'd be speaking a different language don't you think that the name Jesus is comlpletely fine. Especially because that's what most people are familiar with, Even then if we go full autist mode, Jesus would've had an aramaic name rather than a hebraic name origin since the majority of people in Judea at the time spoke Aramaic and Hebrew was mostly relegated to religious things.

>>296576
You can do both if you want, it's up to you.

>>296569
Jews really hate Christians and want to turn them into cucked servants of the jews.
So there must be some positive values in Christianity the jews fear the white man having

>>296580
The reason is (from my understanding) many whites lost their faith in Christ and then Jesus/Yahshua came and taught them how to live in God. Many regained their faith. The jew was furious.

will it be god's work if I sage this thread with horse pussy?

>>296584
LMAO, why sage it though.

>>296580
Anyone who legitimately thinks that Christianity is Kike controlled is delusional. Seriously, if it was a psyop it must've been the biggest failure in history. Seriously if you want people to worship you the last thing you do is have the person who is portrayed as the son of God calling your entire people children of the devil, you know the thing that symbolizes all evil. It's absolute idiocy that anyone would genuinely believe such bullshit. Christianity is true because not only do the kikes absolutely loathe it, They are trying to destroy it from every single angle imaginable. Also you know the things the kikes are pushing, I.e ww3 global warming moving over to printed meat and drinking sewage water as well as other things such as the side effects of the vaccine. Well read the 7 vials of the wrath of God.

Vial 1
Sores affect only people who take the mark of the beast Rev 16:2
Obviously there are a ton of side effects to the vaccine thus these sores
Vial 2 & 3
All the oceans and rivers and other places of available water becomes blood Rev 16:3-7
This is why they are promoting the drinking of sewage water.
Vial 4
They will be burned by the sun with a blazing heat Rev 16:8-9
This is what global warming is it's social conditioning for this event.
Vial 5
Extreme darkness over the entirety of the beasts nation and they gnawed their teeth in pain. Rev 16:10-11 Note I believe this is the USA because next chapter we see mystery babylon which was also called when screaming the beast has fallen, I know this is different from standard israel identity which says that the USA is Jerusalem(this still could be the case) but it simply makes too much sense to ignore that the US is a zionist puppet state. Other than that I haven't heard anything of a darkening though it might be possibly related to yellowstone hysteria that's been peddled the last couple of years.

Vial 6
A large army of two hundred million invades European and US territory, Remember that this is God's punishment on rebellious Israelites. Rev 16:12-16

Vial 7
God comes back and enacts divine Judgment on the Jewish run western powers. A massive earthquake is also done as well Rev 16:17
I'm pretty sure the Jewish run media are currently saying that a massive earthquake is going to hit US soil as well.

>>296586
Nice anon, thank you for sharing!

>>296586
>I'm pretty sure the Jewish run media are currently saying that a massive earthquake is going to hit US soil as well.
Question, do you think this will be like 9/11 where it's first told about in the 60s and doesn't happen until MANY MANY YEARS later or do you think this is extremely soon.

I would like this thread's opinion on Pope Constantine

>>296590
(from my understanding) Reformation started around that time. Correct me if I'm mistaken though.

>>296591
I'm speaking of Constantine the 'Great', circa 300ad, not the later pope

>>296592
OH, I'd have to look into it, I haven't done much outside reading the scripture and trying to decipher it.

>>296585
I wasn't serious.

I still wonder why horsefuckers can't just invent their own religion instead. write a sacred book or something about oc female pony god that blasted a universe out of her horse vagina.

there is a speget monster. Why can't be a pony too? I'd worship her every day.

>>296594
So...where are you on the spectrum?

No, really. Has anyone of you ever wondered if some crazy lad took it this far and made a religion out of mlp just for kicks?

>>296596
There would be no historical doctrine or evidence to support such a theory.

>>296595
Way up the fucking charts of autism palace, amigo. But that's irrelevant. We need to make a religion out of this.

>>296599
Why do you not show your flag I don't understand.

>>296600
Because my flag is of a specific country that appears rarely on this site and it's easy to figure out who is a poster, unlike many us flags that blend in nicely.

>>296589
Possibly soon we're around late revelation 12 to early revelation 13.

>>296602
Apologies, that is the condensed and edited video. Here it is in full
https://youtu.be/ndiGB5aQYdQ

>>296602
>>296602
Interesting. Here's my takeaway:
Jews =/= Judah.
Fruit is not literal.
Church builders were Anti-Christ
Deceit is Anti-Christ.
Lying is a sin.

As for the passages he quotes:
​​Luke 6:44
>For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
​​Luke 6:45
>A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
Job 14:4
>Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.
This leads me to John 3:6
>That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
We are talking genealogy here, not faith/belief.
Corinthians 12:16
>​​And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
John 3:19
>And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
​​John 3:20
>For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

I got a bit lazy but I assure you I watched the first video and I'm in process of the second.

>>296620
Appreciated. I dont fully agree with the entirety of the video contents, but does assert an important point about historical precedence versus modern perception. The church of today philosophically sprouting from the bloody church if yesterday, which is what he meant by referencing being unable to bring a clean thing out of an unclean. So I interpret

I don't hate Christians but pity them, they aren't looking at the road in front of themselves with the most critical awareness or with a sharp eye and it's strange how they can't look in from the outside scope without being shown their own mistakes, there isn't any sense in being oblivious as they cannot see how repetitive reality is for what it is, they don't comprehend the life they are living nor do any others, life isn't what they claim it to be, it is hinting towards actuality but doesn't hit the nail on the head properly.
>>296594
>>296596
>>296599
The religion of horse pussy is one that has always intrigued me into it's moist depths, I may be a pony preacher lest I stray away from the bridleway, yet my faith is not shaken by any hand or hoof stronger than my own desire, no matter whether anyone deems me a sinner or another phony pony lover.
There is an existing 'bible' known as "Celestianism", this might be what you are wanting so here's a psalm.
>Psalm 1
Blessed is the person
who listens not to the teachings of the haters
nor follows the way of the unkind
nor fits the role of a bully
but is taught in the way of Celestia
and on her teaching meditates day and night.

This person is like a tree
planted by streams of water
that yields its fruit in its season,
and it’s leaves do not wither.
In all that it does, it prospers.
The unkind are not so,
but are like straw that the wind drives away.

Therefore the haters will not know true friendship,
nor shall the unkind feel it’s magic;
for Celestia knows the way of her students,
but the way of the bullies will perish.
I have thought of making something similar to your idea in the past but nothing came from my dreaming, It's not amen within my head as this overzealous overpour was only a way for me to get lost within myself, so I have chosen not to for I see it is without aim.

>>296836
>Celestianism
Thank you. This is a neat concept to discover, but it is important to separate faith from the show since celestia is an intellectual property of hasbro. God doesn't belong to a company. Clearly they have changed the name of a Goddess to hide the truth. Celestia's real name is Swee and she gave us her daughter to enlighten us with sex.

>>296843
>Thank you.
Don't sweat it.
>This is a neat concept to discover, but it is important to separate faith from the show since celestia is an intellectual property of hasbro.
So are you going to make a bootleg Celestia then be cum a fellow pony pussy pioneer?
>God doesn't belong to a company.
Nor do I belong to god.
>Clearly they have changed the name of a Goddess to hide the truth.
The Jews gender bended Ra into a hot pastel pony princess.
>Celestia's real name is Swee and she gave us her daughter to enlighten us with sex.
Please, do tell more... but preferably in your own thread rather than here, given this isn't very Christian.

>>296586
Kike controlled, absolutely, specifically, because the largest sect of this universalist(Catholic) religion is literally headed by a jew, Pope francis himself has jewish heritage. Oh and the fucker who runs the largest CI nigger website Christogenea is also a jew. As for Psyop, yes and no, firstly it was born of kikes, Several different ones. Mark, created the fictional kikes, aka jesus and his compatriots by plagiarizing the Homeric Epics and transvaluating them, the narrative and patterns within each text match nearly perfectly, in FAR too many places for this not to be the case.
see: https://chechar.wordpress.com/2020/12/22/mark-transvaluing-homer/
It was intentionally spread to Rome and other goyim as a weapon to weaken and destroy them, it was a weapon of desperate last resort, (Thank you Paul for spreading this horrible religion as your teacher and the Elders of Zion told you to do) it worked and despite your false claim that just because jesus was a jew and was killed by jews that he taught to hate jews, he literally directly tells his followers in the books that "SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS," do you understand what this means? It is a command directly to those who follow him that the Jewish people must survive, for Salvation comes FROM them.
To address the also false claim that th fake jew called his own entire people children of the devil, to whom this fictional character directly, culturally and GENETICALLY belonged, that is not the case either, he was calling one of the 5 different jewish sects of that time children of the devil, specifically the Pharisee sect. Mark had many disagreements with this sect which is why he tried to create his own, and succeeded far better than he knew within his lifetime. A jew himself, and personally desiring to only recruit jews Mark knew to craft this poison with a safety valve for survival of the jewish race should it ever be taken up by non-jews, which he did, in a stroke of brilliance, probably the only thing he actually did himself.
Now, onto your stupid OMG things happening match REVELATIONS, this has happened in literally EVERY generation since christcuckery infected the Aryan race, it was not true in the times of the bubonic plague, it is not true now, it's just more Christkikes hoping jesus will come and do the job for them.

>>296873
Jesus wasn’t jewish though

>>296873
>Christogenea
Seedliners aren't Israel identity though they claim to be and lumping us all together is retarded. This is not an argument in fact this is what you do when you have no argument and want people to accept your point of view. You naturally point to something within that group which the majority view as evil then claim the thing which you want people to distance from is of that same evil.
>It was born of kikes
This is completely bullshit, You would know that since I already posted something to the effect of this >>296570 where the kikes clearly state that they aren't ancient Hebrews. In fact the two main theories the Khazarian Theory and the Idumeans Theory have secular history to back them up. You lumping us all together is just as bad as me lumping in the alt right(Like richard spencer and tommy robertson) with genuine natsocs, One is clearly controlled opposition while the other isn't.
>Salvation is of the Jews
And this is where mistranslations come in. In the original greek it actually says salvation is of Judea, The word Judean simply meant someone from the land of Judea. Jesus was a Judean but he was never a Jew. Plus like this man said >>296908 Jesus was originally from Galilee and was called Jesus of Nazareth. It's similar to how the word American can refer to numerous different ethnic groups like the negro and the mongoloid. Most importantly we have evidence that in Ancient Israel miscegenation was occuring. Nehemiah 13:3, Genesis 6:9 and Ezra 9:7. As well as from secular sources like Strabo the Geographer and Josephus. Who claim that the Idumeans or Edomites who were the enemy of God these guys were the progeny of Esau who sold his birthright for a bowl of red beans and miscegnated with Canaanites(This is what the Jews actually are) were forcibly converted by a man of the Maccabees. So in the time of Jesus Israel was a melting pot of different nations and peoples similar to the USA except instead of being larger than Australia condensed into the size of a country... Smaller than modern day Israel. Not to mention the Majority of both Israel and Judah were deported from their homelands which happened before both Nehemiah and Ezra.

>It was intentionally spread to rome
Yet when Nero commited suicide after he mercilessly attacked Christians. Rome got the bright idea to destroy the second temple, When Julian the apostate came into power he sided with the Jews and tried to help them rebuild the second temple. Which was completely destroyed as a result. 2nd pic related.

>>296971
>Seedliners aren't Israel identity though they claim to be and lumping us all together is retarded. This is not an argument in fact this is what you do when you have no argument and want people to accept your point of view. You naturally point to something within that group which the majority view as evil then claim the thing which you want people to distance from is of that same evil.
how is this a wrong thing to do?, lets say for the sake of arguement that I have a little chat with a christfag about the jews
and they say
>I have those fucking kikes, mutilating children is evil
and I say
>but you believe in a god who demanded such as the ultimate moral good
this is somehow not an arguement against your god, because someone else is doing something bad that he also does but magically hes good for ?

>the jews aren;'t jews, theyre canaanites!!!
I really do not understand the point of this kind of statement, it seems to perport that the script is flipped but every christfag who does this neglects the fact that all of western roman history would suggest that all of those people, from the celts to the romans to the greeks to the persians, are all canaanites. IE not the jews, we where the REAL jews after all. This concept invites the white race to disown their entire history and heritage for that of israels and I personally cannot understand how anyone can say that with a straight face, and act like the jewishness of the christian faith is a misnomer because actually the entire rest of the world is jews(today) and the people of jesus where infact the real jews(us).

>>296978
>Circumcision
Because that was never in the septuagint. You know the the old testament dating back to 146BC as opposed to 700AD. In fact mutilation was actually a banned practice in the septuagint, Which the dead sea scrolls when discovered were almost word for word to the septuagint as opposed to the masoretic. And in the septuagint Deuteronomy 23:2 states
"He that is fractured or mutilated in his private parts shall not enter into the assembly of the Lord."
https://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/septuagint/chapter.asp?book=5&page=23
In fact the septuagint is the oldest old testament currently available and it's in Greek. If you read my previous post which I'm assuming you did you'd know that I mentioned that the Jews aren't actually Israel which is the absolute truth. Outside of the dead sea scrolls which are simply fragments of the old testament in ancient Heb which align more with the septuagint than the masoretic.

>I really do not understand the point of this kind of statement
It's because if you wake up the Christians to the lie that Jews are God's chosen people, Then you have an army of extremely pissed off people who are rightfully attacking people who literally killed their God. Israelites were themselves white but that's a whole different topic and the rabbit hole for that one goes really really deep. So pretty much. But I'll leave some more septuagint verses here.
Song of songs 5:8-10
" I have charged you, O daughters of Jerusalem, by the powers and the virtues of the field: if ye should find my kinsman, what are ye to say to him? That I am wounded with love. What is thy kinsman [more] than [another] kinsman, O thou beautiful among women? what is thy kinsman [more] than [another] kinsman, that thou hast so charged us? My kinsman is white and ruddy, chosen out from myriads."
https://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/septuagint/chapter.asp?book=28&page=5
Like I said this goes very deep. But Israelite history also ties into our history more than you would know. The reason the Jews hate us so much is because they were a bitter enemy of Israel who God commanded us to genocide otherwise they'd become a curse unto us. Which they are.

>>296971
OH FUCK, I only ever read the King James translation. What translation can I trust?

>>296984
Honestly you have to go about it in a very inconvenient way. You pretty much have to read the bible verse by verse and use the greek to understand any mistakes in translation. Septuagint is more reliable than the masoretic due to it's date I.e 146BC and not being written by Christ haters. I'm among the people that believe that the people who wrote the masoretic deliberately changed scripture in order to deny Christ. Like how the word Jew which is used plenty of times in both old and new testament really means Judahite and Judean respectively. The word Jew is a massive deception.

>>296983
>Deuteronomy 23:2
Looks like I’m fucked.

>>296988
Checked

>>296984
King James was bisexual and also made 30,000 errors in the translation and it was widely believed to had been on purpose.

>>297028
Do non-cucked christian sites exists?

>>296983
>then you have an army of extremely pissed off people
The way I see it, we have a whole world of depressed people because according to your interpretation all non jewish history is meaningless satanism, and europe's race and traditions are not the heritage of whites.

I really cant back that, but it is interesting to learn about masoretic and septuagint. Ill poke my nose (kek) into it but I suspect I['ll get a lot of misinformation if you arent willing to go into details on it.

>>297083
Why do you keep saying "jewish" as many have stated thousands of times in this thread we're not jews.

>>297083
>>297089
>because actually the entire rest of the world is jews(today) and the people of jesus where infact the real jews(us).
The people of Christ were not jews lmao.
The word 'Jew' is a made-up word, made up by the Jews
The only reason why all this is confusing, is because the Jews are impersonating as Judahites of the house of Judah.

>>297090
In that case, what's George Soros?

>>297092
Evil

>>297096
Correct

>>296908
Of course not, he isn't a real person.Jesus is a fiction entirely created by Mark, but within the narrative he is a practicing torah abiding jew who was born of a jewish mother at any rate.
>>296971
>Seedliners aren't Israel identity though they claim to be and lumping us all together is retarded.
They'd probably say the exact same about you, who's right? who's wrong? both of you for denying our true history in favor of a jewish one and you, and CI tards as well, for choosing to deny our history and hate our people, even unwittingly, so much so, that you will go to any length and search for any excuse not to let go of Christianity such that you choose to supplant what is true with what is false.
>This is not an argument in fact this is what you do when you have no argument and want people to accept your point of view.
It is an argument, as it was said Christainity ISN'T controlled by jews, that was a lie and it is still a lie.
>You naturally point to something within that group which the majority view as evil then claim the thing which you want people to distance from is of that same evil.
That's not what I did though I provided two examples of Christian sects on opposite ends of the spectrum, of christkikery both controlled by jews.
>This is completely bullshit. You would know that since I already posted something to the effect of this >>296570 where the kikes clearly state that they aren't ancient Hebrews.
>In fact the two main theories the Khazarian Theory and the Idumeans Theory have secular history to back them up.
This shit was debunked so thoroughly you had to hide with the horsefuckers to continue believing that that it has any basis whatsoever.
https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2021/01/03/are-ashkenazi-jews-white-european/
Secular history doesn't exist, even most athiests still subscribe to christian morality, mores and even in many cases the tenets of the religion better than christians like you ever have, for a true history of Christioanity and it's jewish origins read the following.
https://hojaseliminadas.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/fair-race-15-sep-20.pdf
and for the sources the essay on early christianity, what little has been translated into english see the attached PDF.
>You lumping us all together is just as bad as me lumping in the alt right(Like richard spencer and tommy robertson) with genuine natsocs, One is clearly controlled opposition while the other isn't.
All christians Including spencer are controlled opposition, and all of them oppose National Socialism for they do not seek the destruction of this system and a return to the Aryan Ways of the past, they wait endlessly for their precious messiah(who was supposed to return less than a generation after he was supposedly alive), and hate everything this world represents.
>And this is where mistranslations come in. In the original greek it actually says salvation is of Judea, The word Judean simply meant someone from the land of Judea. Jesus was a Judean but he was never a Jew. Plus like this man said >>296908 Jesus was originally from Galilee and was called Jesus of Nazareth
there is no meaningful difference jew = judean, and always has just ask all the still Aryan upper caste Romans who hated them all including your precious Galileans.
As for jesus NOT being a jew, why did he try so hard in the book based on the pattern of the Homeric Epics, to keep to all the same traditions as jews do today, not only circumcision which he had on his seventh day of life, in the jewish tradition which still exists to this day, as I recall. He also attended passover seders and is noted as being a faithful jew who drove moneychangers out of a jewish temple, as there were very few "pagan" temples in Judea as few Romans lived there until after Hadrian razed the city of Jerusalem and all of Judea to the ground.
> It's similar to how the word American can refer to numerous different ethnic groups like the negro and the mongoloid. Most importantly we have evidence that in Ancient Israel miscegenation was occuring. Nehemiah 13:3, Genesis 6:9 and Ezra 9:7. As well as from secular sources like Strabo the Geographer and Josephus.
Not really, judean means jew and always has, because, get this, the word jew evolved from judean always in reference to those pesky jews, The translation isn't flawed it was just updated with the modern usage of terms. Bible quotes are not evidence of anything every ounce of them is jewish lies. Strabo, I am not familiar with, but Josephus is neither secular, being that he is jewish, nor trustworthy, his works have been edited by christians after the fact, modern scholarship has revealed that the passage in which josephus mentioned jesus is unlike any other thing written by him, it is not his writing stylke nor does the line quoted make sense where it is placed and it was not referenced by any supposed refutation by christkikes before the 4th or 5th century see https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/4664
The rest of that part of your post is straight christkike pilpul bullshit, modern scholarship and science has proven that not only do all jews on earth have at least 60%^ of their genetic heritage tied straight back to Israel, matching the scattering of them Hadrian did, when he enslaved those who he didn't slaughter, and their genetics match closely enough to confirm the same people who claim to be jews today are in fact the Judean populace's descendants whether Sephardi Mizrahi or Ashkenazi, but also that the Exodus from Egypt never happened as there is no Archaeological evidence for it what so ever.

>>296971
>Yet when Nero commited suicide after he mercilessly attacked Christians. Rome got the bright idea to destroy the second temple,
Nero committed suicide because his mother drove him insane, he killed her and because of that descended into a spiral which drove him to kill himself later on, it had nothing to do with christianity, and in fact he had nothing to do with the burning of rome as when the city burned he was on a military campaign elsewhere in the empire and he actually gave money from his own coffers to repair the damage to the city and for doing so christians of all stripes curse his name to this day and make him into some kind of evil madman, he was much better even insane than any christian.
>When Julian the apostate came into power he sided with the Jews and tried to help them rebuild the second temple. Which was completely destroyed as a result. 2nd pic related.
Christians had just spent Constantine the Traitor's entire reign killing pagans for having idols, destroying the very foundations of the empire, and of Roman civilization and setting the stage for every evil thing christians inflicted upon the Aryan race afterwards, in julians time, racial science was not well developed and those who my enemy claims is their enemy can be a friend, we know better now, both you and jews are equally enemies, and I personally would place the christian a bit higher in priority because he betrays his race whereas the jew is just doing as he always has, an enemy for eternity nonetheless. None of what the jews have done would be possible without willing cooperation from White Christian men.

>>297090
>>297089
>we're not jews were of judeah
typical christfag reversion. stop being a pandetic retard please. I even gave you parenthesis to tell the difference apart.

>>297161
>>297160
I dont have a problem with most of what you post, but I think its preposterous that you suppose christianity is the enemy. For a start, the good men who are christian are aryans according to you, and you revere natural law, which is based on genetics. Furthermore the people you look back on as being "your" people gave up their ways for christianity. In other words, the idea that christianity is somehow a subversive ideology, because it lets righteous pagans be subverted by jews is tautological, since the pagan virtues did not protect and insolate from christianity, the arguement MUST be that the pagan religons are equally at fault, unless you are willing to admit other racial factors are the cause of the submission to subversion.

I dont see why so many people see a race continue to blatantly practice pagan rituals under the guise of christianity, and continue to be unfailingly self destructively kind to their enemies, as some kind of foreign mind virus that has no basis in genetics. It's as rediculous as saying some unknown entity tricked birds into singing. The aryans are just doing what we naturally do.

>>297163
Are you baiting or are you incapable of reading.

>>297160
>They'd say the same thing about me.
Well the difference between me and them is that I can point to genesis 4:1 and show that Cain was actually begotton of Adam. They then proceed to go through hoops and bounds to "debunk" this.

>It is an argument
Saying someone made the concept of Jesus is an accusation not an argument one might I add hasn't got any weight behind it. Plus you also conveniently leave out all of Matthew, Luke and John.

>I provided two examples of Christian sects
And this is where you fucked up, You do realize that Christianity is the bible right? Why the fuck would I care about what Catholics or Christogenea think, Especially when the bible itself says you should have no other teacher than Christ.
Here
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/23-8.htm
I'll be nice and provide it in the original greek because Majority of modern interpretations including the king james bible use the word Rabbi. Plus it was the original language that the new testament was written in.

>You had to hide with the horsefuckers
You're not from around here are you? Plus KHAZARIANS WERE TURKS not Europeans.

>All christians Including spencer are controlled opposition, and all of them oppose National Socialism for they do not seek the destruction of this system
He didn't even read my post. Notice how he keep going on and on about the "aryan ways of the past" yet people seem to forget this but Rome pretty much commited genocide against 2 million gallic people, Destroyed Corinth amongst other things. Claiming Rome was perfect when it certainly wasn't look at the entire reign of Nero and Commodus for good examples of that. Hitler himself was also a Christian if you actually read mein Kampf as opposed to some sketchy fables like table talks.

>Secular history doesn't exist, even most athiests still subscribe to christian morality, mores and even in many cases the tenets of the religion better than christians like you ever have, for a true history of Christioanity and it's jewish origins read the following.
Absolute bullshit and I've already explained Why Christianity isn't Jewish. You ignoring evidence doesn't make it true.

>there is no meaningful difference jew = judean... No archaeological evidence for it what so ever
That last part is easy to debunk, Who do you think the sea people were, God commanded Israel to genocide the Canaanites, Conveniently the hittite empire completely collapses at the arrival of these people, The hittites were a group of Canaanites. Why do you think they are called the sea people? Maybe it's because of what happened at the dead sea? You also provided no modern scholarship and science refutation either.

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Nero committed suicide because his mother drove him insane, he killed her and because of that descended into a spiral which drove him to kill himself later on, it had nothing to do with christianity, and in fact he had nothing to do with the burning of rome as when the city burned he was on a military campaign elsewhere in the empire and he actually gave money from his own coffers to repair the damage to the city and for doing so christians of all stripes curse his name to this day and make him into some kind of evil madman, he was much better even insane than any christian.
SURE. Yet the romans conveniently destroy the second temple AFTER Nero's death. Nero was a kike puppet and when Rome was finally free of him the first thing they did was punish the kikes. You trying to frame Christians is similar to what the kikes do.

>Constantine.
No Constantine Just legalized Christianity he didn't even ban paganism.

>>297164
Go read Who We Are, then get back to me about Suicidal altruism being part of the Aryan hardware.
>>297273
>Well the difference between me and them is that I can point to genesis 4:1 and show that Cain was actually begotton of Adam. They then proceed to go through hoops and bounds to "debunk" this.
You can point to a book of jewish fictions YAYYY, how wonderful for you! For one to accept your view of history, one has to accept the bible as infallible word of the Supreme Force of the Universe, that is not the case as it was written by men at the command of a jewish daemon known as Yahweh, and also accept that the Jewish God(for us he is a Daemon) Yahweh who went from being Son of El to being the ONLY God is that Supreme God, he calls himself perfect, that means he can be imperfect as the quality of perfection requires the ability to be imperfect so that one can earn perfection, therefore the jewish daemon, is not the supreme God of the Universe.
>Saying someone made the concept of Jesus is an accusation not an argument one might I add hasn't got any weight behind it. Plus you also conveniently leave out all of Matthew, Luke and John.
Go read Richard Carrier, or Catherine Nixey or even just the links and books I provided, check the claims they all carry more weight than word written by Rabbi's less than 2000 years ago and then come back and say it doesn't have any weight, it does have weight, you just refuse to see the truth.
I didn't address those books because all of them were written well after the supposed existence of jesus and some after both Mark, Paul, and anyone who knew them were dead.
>And this is where you fucked up, You do realize that Christianity is the bible right? Why the fuck would I care about what Catholics or Christogenea think, Especially when the bible itself says you should have no other teacher than Christ.
They follow the same book, the same Rabbi(this means teacher and being jewish would have been Jesus' title if he were real which is why it was used), therefore they are Christian, they just interpret it and Marks and Saul et al's works, differently than you do.
>You're not from around here are you? Plus KHAZARIANS WERE TURKS not Europeans.
I have been a lurker for more than two years. Horsefuckers populate this board, I only come around for discussion every now and then. It doesn't matter what Khazarians were or not.
>He didn't even read my post.
Yes I did.
>Notice how he keep going on and on about the "aryan ways of the past" yet people seem to forget this but Rome pretty much commited genocide against 2 million gallic people.
And? Hitler fully intended to Lebensraum(Master Plan East) and either kill or subjugate slavs to make room for more Germans and more living space for Germans.
>Destroyed Corinth amongst other things. Claiming Rome was perfect when it certainly wasn't look at the entire reign of Nero and Commodus for good examples of that.
Nobody ever claimed Rome was perfect but it was a damn sight better than Christian Morals.
>Hitler himself was also a Christian if you actually read Mein Kampf, this will take a whole post or two to respond and
I'll be copying from someone who thoroughly debunked someone just as ignorant as you on the subject
>as opposed to some sketchy fables like table talks.
I have yet to hear a single christain or anyone else debunk David Irving's reasons for believing they are genuine but they all fail to debunk all of hitlers high command from Goebbels(whose diaries show his change from a Christian to a Pagan Aryan Man) to Himmler, or his fucking secretary Christina Schroeder, or a very good friend from his youth august kubiziek who ALL confirm and I quote "the fuhrer is deeply religious but thoroughly Anti-Christian" Hm, do I trust people who knew him quite personally or the orders he himself made and saw carried out? the ones we have direct evidence of, the orders to educate the youth to be anti-christian orders to have them taught to be Aryan, eschewing Christainity and Christ in totality, or a book he wrote expounding on his worldview honestly but censored, for consumption by a public who was quite Christian and whose sensibilities he didn't want to offend, I pick the human beings.
>That last part is easy to debunk, Who do you think the sea people were, God commanded Israel to genocide the Canaanites, Conveniently the hittite empire completely collapses at the arrival of these people, The hittites were a group of Canaanites. Why do you think they are called the sea people? Maybe it's because of what happened at the dead sea? You also provided no modern scholarship and science refutation either.
I provided plenty of evidence that everything you are saying is false, and you are using that book here again, it's jewish fairytales, all of it it is a asource for nothing.
>Absolute bullshit and I've already explained Why Christianity isn't Jewish. You ignoring evidence doesn't make it true.
Not bullshit, and I didn't ignore your evidence, most of it I have seen before and it has been found wanting because it has no ground in reality.

>>297273
>SURE. Yet the romans conveniently destroy the second temple AFTER Nero's death. Nero was a kike puppet and when Rome was finally free of him the first thing they did was punish the kikes. You trying to frame Christians is similar to what the kikes do.
Nero was no kike puppet, the evidence speaks out totally against that. He was a generous and gifted leader but an ill man because of mistreatment by his mother, after whose death he spiraled. He opposed Christians not because he followed demons or served jews, neither of which he did, but because in his time they were all Jews, this the evidence also bears out. Thank you for confirming you are thoroughly ignorant however.
The timing of the destruction of the temple has nothing to do with Nero or his death. Hadrian was the reason that happened because the Judeans rose up in rebellion for the third time. The Romans had, had enough of Judeans( for them this included Christians because, again, they were entirely Jewish at that point), and had killed a legion of troops and were killings every Roman they could find, so Hadrian took 5 legions, I think, and purged the entirety of Judea of Judeans form Galilee to Idumea, those he didn't kill, he enslaved.
>No Constantine Just legalized Christianity he didn't even ban paganism.
Constantine did FAR more evil than that. Not only did he "legalize" christianity, he also didn't stop and actively aided christians in, killing pagans in their bolshevik mobs, and destroying, the temples, the libraries, the schools, and shit tons of pagan statuary. He also stopped the funds to the temples of Rome and sent it to christains. those funds were collected as tax from the populace who went to these temples, sacrificed to the gods in these temples. These temples did far more than christian churches did for Europe for over a thousand years, in fact most of the churches were not built with church money, they were built by local municipalities banding together giving MORE than their required tithes to build the churches. These temples used these funds
to maintain infrastructure and were home to Forae and other community gathering places, far more Aryan than Any church today. In his final despicable act of the purest evil, he converted on his death bed and effectively gave christians control of the empire and they used it to the fullest advantage doing more damage to Rome, it's people and what it held than anyone today can do more than guess at.

>>297164
>I dont have a problem with most of what you post, but I think its preposterous that you suppose christianity is the enemy.
I do not suppose I notice a pattern christains are by and large traitors to the race and ALWAYS have been, pierce covers this in Who We Are and the book i recommended above covers it well as does the PDF I posted, it is a small trranslation of a book it took Karlheinz Deschner 50 years to research and complete and comes in ten volumes, it has not been translated into english by anyone else.
>For a start, the good men who are christian are aryans according to you, and you revere natural law, which is based on genetics.
Where do i say anything about Christians who are good men being Aryan? there are some Aryans who are caught in the spell of Christkikery but the Aryan cannot come out in full until they abandon what is not ours.
\>Furthermore the people you look back on as being "your" people gave up their ways for christianity.
No they didn't they were forced from the top down out of greed by corrupt kings and thorough trickery assassination poisonings and more, essentially all of europe was converted using jewish methods to get a sympathetic king on thge throne and then that king killed his subjects until they complied it was not willing and they never fully stopped.
>In other words, the idea that christianity is somehow a subversive ideology, because it lets righteous pagans be subverted by jews is tautological.
No it's not it is what happened, it is not a theory or a guess.
>since the pagan virtues did not protect and insolate from christianity, the arguement MUST be that the pagan religons are equally at fault,
They did for some time but Pagans did not view religion anything like Christians do or did, they thought killing so many of the invaders would make them stop, they were wrong We know better now.
>unless you are willing to admit other racial factors are the cause of the submission to subversion.
Depoends on where you are talking about but please go read Who We Are, it is excerpted in Fair Races Darkest Hour. and I will also post the one I have.

>I dont see why so many people see a race continue to blatantly practice pagan rituals under the guise of christianity,
This doesn't matter
>and continue to be unfailingly self destructively kind to their enemies, as some kind of foreign mind virus that has no basis in genetics.
It is because it doesn't have any basis in genetics, Christianity is killing us because it is software not made for us, it does not belong on our hardware, that is why our race has become Ethno-suicidal under it's sway, why our elites most of whom remain White, betray us, they were programmed against their nature and it is killing us, the way to undo this is to undo Christianity.
>It's as rediculous as saying some unknown entity tricked birds into singing.The aryans are just doing what we naturally do.
No, we are not this is NOT our way and it never was.

>>297346
>You can point to a book of Jewish fictions
Already told you over 30 times that accusations are not an argument ESPECIALLY when I've already provided an argument on why it wasn't Jewish. Including the fact that the Jews themselves admit that they aren't ancient Israelites.

>Go read Richard Carrier, or Catherine Nixey or even just the links and books I provided, check the claims they all carry more weight than word written by Rabbi's less than 2000 years ago and then come back and say it doesn't have any weight, it does have weight, you just refuse to see the truth.
Yet you haven't provided one quote from either of them because you refuse to actively argue and Just dance around my points.

>They follow the same book
You do realize that the new testament was originally written in greek right, Thus the original greek holds more water because it's the original.

>And? Hitler fully intended to Lebensraum(Master Plan East) and either kill or subjugate slavs to make room for more Germans and more living space for Germans.
Anti-European shilling.

>I have yet to hear a single christain or anyone else debunk David Irving's reasons for believing they are genuine but they all fail to debunk all of hitlers high command from Goebbels(whose diaries show his change from a Christian to a Pagan Aryan Man) to Himmler, or his fucking secretary Christina Schroeder, or a very good friend from his youth august kubiziek who ALL confirm and I quote "the fuhrer is deeply religious but thoroughly Anti-Christian" Hm, do I trust people who knew him quite personally or the orders he himself made and saw carried out? the ones we have direct evidence of, the orders to educate the youth to be anti-christian orders to have them taught to be Aryan, eschewing Christainity and Christ in totality, or a book he wrote expounding on his worldview honestly but censored, for consumption by a public who was quite Christian and whose sensibilities he didn't want to offend, I pick the human beings.
Pic related.

>I provided plenty of evidence that everything you are saying is false, and you are using that book here again, it's jewish fairytales, all of it it is a asource for nothing.
Not an argument,

>Nero was no kike puppet
Yes he really was. The temple was destroyed in 70A.D 2 years AFTER Nero's death. Not when Hadrian was around. I don't even know if Hadrian was born when the temple was destroyed. So now actively lying about when the temple was destroyed.

>Constantine did FAR more evil than that
This would've held more weight if you didn't conveniently hold back on all the persecution that the Christians went through, I.e being thrown at lions and other atrocities, Let's not forget what Rome did to Carthage after they got a little bit salty. Completely and utter annihilated the place. Whether or not that was for the better is up to you but the point is, The Romans would've done the exact same to the Christians and thus Constantine was completely in the right for what he did. Also this is called double standards.

>>297372
>I do not suppose I notice a pattern christains are by and large traitors to the race and ALWAYS have been, pierce covers this in Who We Are and the book i recommended above covers it well as does the PDF I posted, it is a small trranslation of a book it took Karlheinz Deschner 50 years to research and complete and comes in ten volumes, it has not been translated into english by anyone else.
this is not an arguement
All pagan religions cucked to christianity, which you argue is subversive, theres no difference.
>Where do i say anything about Christians who are good men being Aryan?
Oh i am absolutely done here, you're going on filter, but I'd welcome to debate with any christians who have their head screwed on forwards instead of backwards. I am absolutely fucking sick of this (((chosen))) mentality peddled by you devision shills. if you want to look at the entire world and say your little minority is the REAL chosen ones we're sticking you in israel with the jews, then you, muhammedans, kikes, and chinks can all fight to the death in your little safe space for gods special bois.

>>297516
When I say Europeans were actually Israel I never meant that we are God's chosen people like the Jews claim themselves to be. Though we were set aside for a separate purpose than the other people groups. Israel was to be an example on how other nations were to behave kinda like a big brother type of deal. Of course Jews consider themselves superior to other people groups and the "Aryan" larpers are hypocrites because they are pretty much peddling the same bullshit the Jews believe, So they in reality are no better than Jews. Not to say Aryans didn't exist, But they were European peoples. Not some super race that can do no wrong, Other wise they wouldn't have miscegnated themselves out of existence. Understand this, It's better to be humble for pride is the final nail in the coffin for any group. I understand the desperation of my people, But to discard honor in favor of pride will only accelerate our destruction because the prideful listen to no one other than themselves and what they consider to be the absolute truth. In this way they're simply no better than leftists or other groups like that.
Pierce is also untrustworthy.
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/209504658/#209544956

>>297516
>this is not an arguement
It is, I am giving the evidence that showed me the truth ignore it if you wish, I am not your daddy
>All pagan religions cucked to christianity, which you argue is subversive, theres no difference.
There is a world of difference, that you don't see that makes you blind, not me.
Christianity is subversive, and always has been just read Fair race's Darkest hour to see why and if you want the sources used in the first essay within, read the Deschner book I linked, the translation is quite good.
>Oh i am absolutely done here, you're going on filter, but I'd welcome to debate with any christians who have their head screwed on forwards instead of backwards. I am absolutely fucking sick of this (((chosen))) mentality peddled by you devision shills.
You don't want to debate and I am no christian, nor do I have a Chosen mentality, looks like someone hasn't read their Savitri Devi, Evola, Serrano, etc. nor have you come to realize that a majority of the White race is absolutely worthless, and has to be purged if we are to find a way to improve our race and it's lot in this world. We cannot do this with Christians they always choose their religion over both Truth and the Race, I have seen it too many times, first hand , and watched too many Christians betray the Aryan cause to continue letting them shill everywhere unopposed.
>if you want to look at the entire world and say your little minority is the REAL chosen ones we're sticking you in israel with the jews.
The Nordic/Germanic Race is my Race and I would like to save as many as possible but this is unlikely as millions of them will oppose us and our efforts to improve and defend Our Race but you'll probably just come back MUH nordicism bad, like so many subhumans I run across.
>then you, muhammedans, kikes, and chinks can all fight to the death in your little safe space for gods special bois.
I'll kill all of them and then come for you, dislike my opinions all you like but that right there is verging on race traitor.

>>297506
>Already told you blah blah
An accusation is an argument, as it is a statement and I made it based on fact to oppose your own arguments. Your argument on why it wasn't jewish is bullshit. It was written in Greek, because MARK was a Grecian speaking jew, and because Saul needed it written in a language the Goyim spoke across the empire, Greek fits the bill Gamaliel and Saul needed. The Old Testament is based on the Torah, a Jewish book, with existing copies of it as old as the second century BCE with all five books of the Pentateuch written in fucking Hebrew, though a small slice with a passage from Numbers exists on silver that is older by about 500 years.
Oh wait MUH ancient Hebrew different language because no vowels, don't even try that one, it's not really a different language, it has evolved like every other language on earth and has done so in the hands of it's people the Judeans also known today as Jews. No evidence that you have provided disproves that the character of Jesus that Mark created is fulfilling Jewish Prophecy from the Old Testament, a book I just above demonstrated is jewish.
This Character has a Jewish Mother and Father who taught him to be a good and observant Jew and as a result he attends and holds many of the same holidays jews today follow, like Passover. He is also circumcised in the exact same manner and following the same traditions as jews do today. All this leads to the character being unquestionably a jew, and thus the New Testament follows the life of jew who was fulfilling Jewish prophecy, which is unlike ANY other kind of prophecy practiced in ancient Rome and is still practiced by other rabbis today.
This makes the new testament jewish too or I could simply go the route of it's a jewish book as the foundation of it all it was written by Mark, a jew. The shit spread to Goyim was probably written by both Saul and Gamaliel, with Mark's help despite his not wanting his newly created sect of judaism spread to goyim as his character personally states right in every translation.
>Including the fact that the Jews themselves admit that they aren't ancient Israelites.
No they don't as this would void their claim to Israel, not that they need one.
>Yet you haven't provided one quote
I will not go and quote them for you. I provided the evidence I used to make my conclusions, your job is to read it and see if it'up to methodological standards an expert but bluepilled Historian/Mythicist like Richard Carrier uses, one of the articles I linked even outright tells you his methodology BECAUSE IT'S FROM HIS BLOG!
>You do realize that the new testament was originally written in greek right? Blah.
No, because you have not proved the accuracy of the translations is any better or worse when many of the foremost experts of Hundreds of sects of Christianity and contemporary historians use both OG greek and King James bible almost interchangeably and many do not discount any given version unless it's just that bad. nor the reasons it is entirely jewish above or provided a reason for me to care what was in the original.
>Anti-European shilling.
Nope, the truth, dislike it all you want Hitler fully intended to do that, we have the original documents on Master Plan East, they have not been falsified whatsoever not even by the foremost Holocaust Revisionists.
>Yes he really was.
Confused Vespasian with Hadrian, and misremembered Nero's death he was killed by Jews most likely, he already had Vespasian headed to Jerusalem.
In the year 66, in a rapid and well-planned coup d’état, the Jews put to the knife all the non-Jewish inhabitants of Jerusalem except the slaves. Nero uses his legions to crush the revolt harshly in the rest of the Empire, but in their capital the Jews become strong. In the year 68, just as General Vespasian left to take Jerusalem, Nero is mysteriously murdered. Vespasian, then, becomes emperor and sends his son Titus at the front of the X Legio, with the aim of crushing the Jews.
In the year 70 Rome triumphs; Jerusalem is devastated, sacked by the Roman legionaries, and it is said that in the process a million Jews died under Roman arms (only in Jerusalem the town had accumulated, during the siege, three million Jews). The year 70 was fateful, traumatizing, outrageous and key for Jewry. It meant the enslavement and dispersion of Jews throughout the Mediterranean (Diaspora), greatly enhancing the growth of Christianity. There are successive emperors (Trajan, Hadrian), very aware of the Jewish problem, who do not pay much attention to the Christians, mainly because they are too busy with the Judaic puzzle in ‘holy land’, repressing the Jews again and again, without destroying them completely.
>persecution that the Christians went through
Every early christian was a jew, why would I care about the suffering of jews or any Non-Aryan for that matter?
>Let's not forget what Rome did to Carthage, etc
Mischaracterization of the true events, as Christains were not persecuted for being the jews they were, not even for being christian, but for refusing participation in Roman religious events, The Imperial Cult, if I recall, and that wasn't in the entirety of their territory masnly just Rome itself and only because they made a stink about it and interfered with the operation of the city and it's religious rites regularly. As for carthage that was merely a casualty of Romes continual lebensraum doing as Aryans should =and did all throughout history, conquering.
As for Romans doing what christians did, No they didn't, nor would they have that wasn't their way their way was syncretization which doesn't work with jewish poison and that's why they lost.
>Pierce is also untrustworthy.
Your source is a post on 4chan linking to a video that no longer exists. Having done a deep dive looking it's just plain not true as the jewish media would have JUMPED at the chance to show Pierce in a bad light, there is not any article I can find talking about this and none from any major newspaper.

>>296586
>Anyone who legitimately thinks that Christianity is Kike controlled is delusional
Why? Christianity began as just one more ''Jewish'' sect in the area of Judea and Galilee. Jesus was a Jew. All of his disciples were Jews. The one who spread this sect of Judaism to the gentiles and made it as easy as possible for them to convert was a Jew. The entire Bible is written by Jews. Christian rulers for generation shielded Jews and privileged them in Europe, allowing them to lend interest, and becoming ensared by Jewish usury. In Rosenberg's 'The Track of the Jew Through the Ages' we read about how Christian kings even gave Jews access to fortresses within the city in order to protect them from the wrath of the gentiles. Also, the entire foundation of the split between Jews and Christians lies exclusively on Jesus. Christians are dumb enough to think that if a Jew accepts Jesus as the Messiah / Christ that suddenly he's a "brother" and totally fine. Any true opposition to Jewry ''must'' lie on biological grounds. A Jew does not stop being a Jew merely because he loves some Jew nailed to a stick. Christian anti-semitism, along with Islamic anti-semitism, is limited and weak by its very nature.
Christian slave morality is a large part of this psyop against White Europeans. Christianity is fundamentally anti-life. It denigrates the reality that we find ourselves in, and places the center of life's gravity into some ethereal beyond or nothingness. This itself is originally born from a hatred of life itself, a sick mind - this is why it is hardly any surprise that in the Roman Empire women, slaves, and the poor were the first Christians. It functioned as a form of proto-leftism with its promises of a utopia to come (heaven in this case) and the affirmation of spiritual equality. The slave morality preached by Jesus in places such as the Sermon on the Mount is what I call doormat morality. You're supposed to be a doormat for people to walk all over. Love your enemies, give them your cloak, cuck for them and go twice as far as they tell you if you're forced, turn the other cheek, hate your mother and father, etc - we all know the lines. The letters of the Jew Paul even tell us that
1 Corinthians 1:27-29
>God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things--and the things that are not--to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him.
This means that niggers, weaklings, degenerates and cripples are the true things "chosen" by God. They, in their state of subhumanity and suffering, they're the true holy ones, the "meek". It is a revolt against all quality, all nobility, all beauty, all power and strength. More life-hating slave moralizing leftism.
>the person who is portrayed as the son of God calling your entire people children of the devil
Jesus was a Jew. His disciples were Jews, his followers were Jews. It was a quarrel between various Jews sects.
>Christianity is true because not only do the kikes absolutely loathe it
A poisoner does not consume his own poisons. Rabbis foment anti-Christian ideas among themselves so that they do not infect their own.
>They are trying to destroy it from every single angle imaginable
They have more useful and up-to-date golems in 2021, such as Cultural Marxism. Christianity is absolutely used as one golem, one ''brand'' for certain types to identify with yet never become a threat to Jewish hegemony.

>>297727
>An accusation is an argument
No it isn't, An accusation is an accusation until you provide legitimate evidence in the form of actual proof which you haven't done even once. All you are doing is using emotional manipulation in the form of screaming Jew at your opposition and hoping that people will cave in because they are afraid of being called a kike. It's the exact same tactic that leftists use. Also you made the accusation of Jesus being made up by mark not me, It's your job to provide the proof. Unfortunately for you, I can't disprove something if there is no proof of the thing being accused to begin with.

>Attacking Mary
No in fact Jesus purposefully attacked the popular Jewish sect at the time and the bible numerous time cited for fear of the Jews as reasons why people weren't acknowledging him, The reason for this is obvious. Also I believe that Jesus is the son of God.
>He is circumcised
Yet I showed that circumcision was actually a frowned upon practice in the septuagint. Which is the more reliable version of the old testament due to 1) being older 2) being written before Jesus was born. You claim I haven't provided evidence yet you completely ignore any evidence I provide and keep screaming Jew at me. The exact same tactic the Jews use. Moreover you haven't provided one piece of evidence that mark made up Jesus. Especially considering things like the shroud of turin point to the contrary and that Jesus was a living breathing person.

>I will not go and quote them for you. I provided the evidence I used to make my conclusions, your job is to read it and see if it'up to methodological standards an expert but bluepilled Historian/Mythicist like Richard Carrier uses, one of the articles I linked even outright tells you his methodology BECAUSE IT'S FROM HIS BLOG!
So you aren't willing to actually debate. Good to know

>No, because you have not proved the accuracy of the translations is any better or worse when many of the foremost experts of Hundreds of sects of Christianity and contemporary historians use both OG greek and King James bible almost interchangeably and many do not discount any given version unless it's just that bad. nor the reasons it is entirely jewish above or provided a reason for me to care what was in the original.
Yet again I have you just continue to ignore any evidence I provide even when I disproved it all.

>Nope, the truth, dislike it all you want Hitler fully intended to do that, we have the original documents on Master Plan East, they have not been falsified whatsoever not even by the foremost Holocaust Revisionists.
I know it's the truth but the point is that it's still anti European shilling especially considering the situation we currently are in, We simply can't afford division, Which is what you are actively promoting.

>Nero
Who was a complete sexual deviant From Suetonius. life of the Ceasars
Chapter 28
"Besides abusing freeborn boys and seducing married women, he debauched the vestal virgin Rubria. The freedwoman Acte he all but made his lawful wife, after bribing some ex-consuls to perjure themselves by swearing that she was of royal birth. He castrated the boy Sporus and actually tried to make a woman of him; and he married him with all the usual ceremonies, including a dowry and a bridal veil, took him to his house attended by a great throng, and treated him as his wife. And the witty jest that someone made is still p133 current, that it would have been well for the world if Nero's father Domitius had had that kind of wife. 2 This Sporus, decked out with the finery of the empresses and riding in a litter, he took with him to the assizes and marts of Greece, and later at Rome through the Street of the Images,84 fondly kissing him from time to time. That he even desired illicit relations with his own mother, and was kept from it by her enemies, who feared that such a help might give the reckless and insolent woman too great influence, was notorious, especially after he added to his concubines a courtesan who was said to look very like Agrippina. Even before that, so they say, whenever he rode in a litter with his mother, he had incestuous relations with her, which were betrayed by the stains on his clothing."
I don't care how far you try to defend him, If THIS is what pagan rome was like then quite frankly I'd never want to return, This shit is Just as reprobate as the modern era. Also suetonius was born around 50A.D-120A.D so don't try to say he was a christian trying to destroy Nero's legacy.

>"Aryans this, Aryans that"
You're no better than the Jews. Also I told you a million times the original christians weren't Jews, If anything they were greeks.

>>297742
>Wojak posting
Yeah that alone is suspect. I would talk about everything else and why it's bullshit, But I've already explained several times why Christianity wasn't Jewish. This fag isn't willing to debate and I'm gonna make an assumption here, Despite him calling everyone else a Jew he probably is one himself. Mainly due to the blatant hypocrisy and his thought process aligning more with the stereotypical Jew than that of a person of actual European heritage.

>>297807
>Also you made the accusation of Jesus being made up by mark not me
Mark wrote the books on jesus directly and the book The Homeric Epics and the Gospel Of Mark by Dennis R. MacDonald prove that pretty much without a doubt that mark took the Homeric epics and used them as a blueprint for his GOspels entirely falsified and in fact this article below is Richard Carriers review of the above book though edited slightly by the owner of the blog, I provided you the evidence several times I had to make the effort to learn this and discover this truth on my own. https://chechar.wordpress.com/2020/12/22/mark-transvaluing-homer/
>Unfortunately for you, I can't disprove something if there is no proof of the thing
No unfortunately for me, you are a lazy asshole who won't do a little reading on the material I have provided because you love your religion just that much, even in it's falsity.
>No in fact Jesus purposefully attacked the popular Jewish sect at the time and the bible numerous time cited for fear of the Jews as reasons why people weren't acknowledging him.
No the characters Mark created including Mary were criticizing 5 other jewish sects in existence at that time the pharisees moreso than others but the book was a literary criticism of his fellow jews as a whole.
>The reason for this is obvious. Also I believe that Jesus is the son of God.
The reason for t his is that mark was a jew who disagreed that the pharisee's were defending his race correctly as the dominant sect of judaism at that time, he turned out to be wrong but he doesn't know what we know today.
>Yet I showed that circumcision was actually a frowned upon practice in the septuagint. Which is the more reliable version of the old testament due to 1) being older 2) being written before Jesus was born.
Circumcision was a jewish practice even then, it may have taken a different form than it does today but nobody knows for certain, and i find it funny that none of the official versions of any church's bible including the Roman Catholic Church, the oldest one, mentions that and most of it's books have translations from 300 AD or so when knowledge of ancient greek was still useful as it was a living language they're translations do not match the one by an english man from the 1800's, why is that? You can lie and say the septuagint is older than the dead sea scrolls, but it has the basis of the Old Testament and matches quite closely the current Jewish Torah and we have many Lutheran and other christian sects who learn and use Ancient Hebrew for theological purposes.
>You claim I haven't provided evidence yet you completely ignore any evidence I provide and keep screaming Jew at me.
Yopur evidence is lacking I have said several times none of it is hard proof, even your poor debunk of table talks is just straight bullshit when Goebbels and Schroeder both independently confirm, Hitler was NOT a Christian and August Kubiziek confirms he had not been since his youth no christian scholar who denies that, to keep their Jewish religion alive and killing the Aryan race(upper echelon of the white race) and the White Race, is worth their salt, let alone that the Catholic church disavowed Hitler in 1937, and his "positive Christianity" which today is just cope called Christian Aryanism calling all but Mark and Paul jewish, was also abandoned around that time. Most of your evidence of it not being jewish, requires believing that your holy book is the WORD OF THE SUPREME GOD, it is not, and I demonstrated logically how Yahweh, whose word it is, is not that god above.
>The exact same tactic the Jews use. Moreover you haven't provided one piece of evidence that mark made up Jesus.
I have provided the evidence, you refuse to put in any effort. >shroud of Turin point to the contrary
No, they don't the Shroud of Turin is a 13th century remake using a French templar who was executed in the manner of jesus for heresy, his burial shroud is of an Ayran man, Jesus was not this per the numerous translations of the bible all pointing out how he followed Judaism perhaps a less Talmudic sect than the Pharisees, but still Judaism none the less.
>So you aren't willing to actually debate. Good to know
I am, you aren't willing to put in the work I did, you are the one choosing not to debate.
>Yet again blah balh
You disproved nothing. I just looked over all your "evidence" again you provide assertions that are based on something I do not view as the Infallible Word of the Supreme God of the Universe because it is demonstrably the word of a Jewish daemon.
>I know it's the truth
I'm sorry that the truth is Inconvenient for you, I am not saying lets go murder all the slavs now, I said what does it matter that Rome killed but did not exterminate like Christians did other european people groups in their drive to conquer as Hitler intended to do the same for his people, there is no moral negative placed upon Rome for it in my view and you using it, is worthless as an argument.
> If THIS is what pagan rome was like then quite frankly I'd never want to return,
We do not know how accurate it is and how accurate it was kept by christians over the course of the last 200 years they did destroy most of the writings that survived their intentional destruction of rome by a combination of intentional neglect and puproseful destruction. and suetonius was most likey born in 69 AD after nero's death his testimony is therefore likely to not be terribly accurate but that is not the norm for Pagan Rome and you know that, that is an emperor whose mother abused him terribly and twisted his mind, I expect degeneracy from such a man who still doing all that shit is more manly than any Christian today, much of which could be Suetonius reporting on rumors, that could have no basis in fact, as a dutiful biographer does.
>You're no better than the Jews
I dislike your false god and false religion, we cannot reawaken the Aryan spirit using Christianity it is poison to our minds and souls.

Official bonafide heathen here. Love you Christo bros. I work with a lot of you IRL and at a local level Christianity has worked hard to maintain many local traditions which would otherwise have been lost to the ravaged of time.
Modern Christianity has a lot of issues but I still think it provides a solid base for many people in their lives. I just wish more Christians would critically read their own literature rather than just let the clergy tell them that god wants them to fun refugee boats.
Gods bless you anons.

>>297807
>Yeah that alone is suspect. I would talk about everything else and why it's bullshit, But I've already explained several times why Christianity wasn't Jewish. This fag isn't willing to debate and I'm gonna make an assumption here, Despite him calling everyone else a Jew he probably is one himself. Mainly due to the blatant hypocrisy and his thought process aligning more with the stereotypical Jew than that of a person of actual European heritage.
Thanks for making it clear that you have no rebuttal.

>>297829
This. Luciferian contrarian here. I dont mind christfags, my issues are with the church(es) and the willful ignorance and naivete wrt religious history. We can all work together on defeating the eternal (and I do mean eternal) jew, and I'll happily assist in decoding the sections of the bible that are being overlooked or misinterpreted by the heavy use of occult symbology. At the end of the day we're all approaching the same goal from different angles. My point is that we're ALL heathens, no one gets a pass by bending the knee.

>>297827
>Mark took homer and used it as a blueprint for the gospel
Alright instead of that let's look at the character of the man who promotes this anti christian attitude. Since apparently they are inversions of homeric values.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carrier
"In recent years, Carrier has been embroiled in several sexual misconduct scandals, having been accused of engaging in predatory and sexually aggressive behavior towards females at skeptic and atheist conventions."
Was a fornicator which adds to this.
"From 1995 to 2015, he was married to Jennifer Robin Carrier. Announcing their divorce, Carrier revealed that he is polyamorous, and that after informing his wife of his extramarital affairs, the last two years of their marriage had been an open relationship"
Which has been a complete disaster for the European people ever since it's been legalized
Seemingly anti national socialist as he tried to associate hitler with christianity by using ironically similar arguments that I used on why table talks are unreliable, The only difference is I used hitler being a christian as a positive example. Thus we can assume Richard Carrier is pro Jewish as well.
So a sexual degenerate + anti-hitler guess what type of people are like that. Some moral paragon we have right here. Meanwhile fornication causes STD's, less marriages and as a result less births, Abortions etc etc.

>Circumcision was a jewish practice even then, it may have taken a different form than it does today but nobody knows for certain, and i find it funny that none of the official versions of any church's bible including the Roman Catholic Church, the oldest one, mentions that and most of it's books have translations from 300 AD or so when knowledge of ancient greek was still useful as it was a living language they're translations do not match the one by an english man from the 1800's, why is that? You can lie and say the septuagint is older than the dead sea scrolls, but it has the basis of the Old Testament and matches quite closely the current Jewish Torah and we have many Lutheran and other christian sects who learn and use Ancient Hebrew for theological purposes.
I posted a link to the septuagint, The most reliable old testament which is written in greek and the earliest available record of it was 146BC. I already posted Deuteronomy 23:2. You ignoring what I posted again.

>Yopur evidence is lacking I have said several times none of it is hard proof
My evidence is the bible the book that Christians are supposed to follow on how to be saved. There is no better resource for a christian to argue with than the bible because it's literally the word of God in the eyes of me and other Christians. In other words your "evidence" on how christianity is cucked because of denominations is completely worthless because the bible itself isn't.

>I have provided the evidence
No you haven't you've posted things and said go read, You call me lazy yet here I am debating you, Yet you are completely unwilling to quote anything when that's how an argument is supposed to worth. You quote things that supports your point of view and then you let the opposition come in with their own point of view and explain why your point of view is misguided. You haven't provided anything only books and say read this,

No, they don't the Shroud of Turin is a 13th century remake using a French templar who was executed in the manner of jesus for heresy,
Another baseless accusation, You didn't provide anything for this one either. It's your job to provide material for an argument.

>You disproved nothing. I just looked over all your "evidence" again you provide assertions that are based on something I do not view as the Infallible Word of the Supreme God of the Universe because it is demonstrably the word of a Jewish daemon.
Blasphemy. You know what, I'll show you just how much jews hate christ. Jews hate christ so much they mock him on public television in Israel. That alone is enough to prove that Christianity isn't Jewish. Especially considering how if Christianity was Jewish they wouldn't divide and conquer their own people, they would've tried and unite.

>I'm sorry that the truth is Inconvenient for you, I am not saying lets go murder all the slavs now, I said what does it matter that Rome killed but did not exterminate like Christians did other european people groups in their drive to conquer as Hitler intended to do the same for his people, there is no moral negative placed upon Rome for it in my view and you using it, is worthless as an argument.
No your entire point is that you're making it out that the christians were barbaric for attacking the romans and doing to them what the romans did to them, When in reality if it was the other way around the result would've been the same. That's called hypocrisy.

We do not know how accurate it is and how accurate it was kept by christians over the course of the last 200 years they did destroy most of the writings that survived their intentional destruction of rome by a combination of intentional neglect and puproseful destruction. and suetonius was most likey born in 69 AD after nero's death his testimony is therefore likely to not be terribly accurate but that is not the norm for Pagan Rome and you know that, that is an emperor whose mother abused him terribly and twisted his mind, I expect degeneracy from such a man who still doing all that shit is more manly than any Christian today, much of which could be Suetonius reporting on rumors, that could have no basis in fact, as a dutiful biographer does.
He was born in the 50A.Ds you denying it just to make Nero look good doesn't change that fact.

>>297838
This right here. This is what I'm talking about. Some of you Christfags arealright but this,... I lose count when trying to number the logical fallacies

>>297830
You haven't provided even one argument all your doing is vomiting grr Jew bad, When I've debunked it countless times. You just refuse to listen. And the ones you do provide are either purposefully misleading or retarded theory crafting in an attempt to make your argument look better. I.e bumping up suetonius' birth to 69A.D with absolutely zero evidence to back it up. Most of your arguments are unprovable claims and the one you promote who says that christianity's morals are inverted of Greek paganism is a sexual deviant. Thus either the Greeks were sexual deviants or he's lying

You know, I kinda thought most /mlpol/ posters were smart enough to not engage with religious D&C posting, but whatever. You fags were already baited into arguing about bullshit, so I might as well say my peace. If you are about to reply to this thread, then please read this first.
I am neither religious nor superstitious: it takes precious resources away from making the world better for non-hook-nosed white people all over the globe in this world/life/reality/plane/timeline/whateverthefuck. You know, the one we live in. The one that matters. If you are pushing any kind of religion / spiritual salvation without the express purpose of helping ALL of our people in a way that could have tangible results, you are helping the D&C efforts.

If, however, for whatever reason, you still feel the need to work towards these goals on a not-exactly-material level, then look no further than our local chaos wizards on /vx/. Those are the only people you can actually trust to have the same goals as you do. So listen to them, at the very least.
Misc. mentions:
>pagan larping
Most religions are wide-scale larping anyway, might as well pick a based one that suits you instead of whatever the jews in charge prescribed for you.
>Eponna
That one is already a decent attempt. Take a look.
>Let's try in the same vague direction 4/pol/ did with KEK
The only deity I am aware of that embodies the values most beneficial here (fertility, horses and righteous war) is an Egyptian amalgam of multiple goddesses (Astarte, Ishtar and some others). There is meme magic potential there, due to the ways Egyptian gods work. You might even be able to merge all of the above into a new amalgam through the same divine memery process. Consult your SS sorcerers for possible side effects.

These are the only right choices, so pick one. Anything else is for you to personally subscribe to at your own discretion, but the moment you begin to push it and argue about it on a political board, it becomes the oldest form of shilling.

>>297838
>Alright instead of that let's look at the character of the man who promotes this anti christian attitude
Setting aside that there is nothing wrong with the man wanting multiple women as Polygyny was and is a long standing tradition in Nordic regions for a reason and is making a return among the resurgent Folkish Asatruar if I recall correctly.
This is a classic example of Ad Hominem, you cannot discard methodologically sound information that I might add you CAN verify yourself in this case and attack the mans character, and I never said he was NS or pro NS at all nor did I say he was absolutely correct on every matter, the information he has forwarded in On The Historicity of Jesus is quite sound but you're also purposely sidestepping that Dennis Macdonald is not, in fact, Richard Carrier and that was merely a slightly edited version of Richard Carrier's review of MacDonald's book which is about a subject Carrier is quite well educated on and he is, like most who specialize worthless outside his wheelhouse.
Disregarding good information because it doesn't conform to your religion, preconceptions, or a holy book written by jews is the height of folly.
>I posted a link to the septuagint, The most reliable old testament which is written in greek and the earliest available record of it was 146BC.
Keep posting your holy scripture it literally means nothing because there is no Truth in it. no matter how reliable you think it is, I have shown you how it is written and born out of the minds of jews, and before you go off on another tangent about JUDEANS AREN'T JEWS, yes they are, you are FALSELY applying the modern conception of a Nation-State to a people, who had NO CONCEPT OF IT, a Nation back then and up until relatively recently was a people, therefore Judeans are jews as only one people still living on this planet speak the same fucking language the judeans did, and use it in their religious ceremonies, jews.
>My evidence is the bible.
I see you missed my argument entirely, the religion is worthless because the book is worthless, the denominations are the examples of it's results.
>No you haven't you've posted things blah blah sidestepping
I provided the evidence you have the time to peruse that evidence and check it's validity, then provide ACTUAL EVIDENCE that I am wrong you fail to do that, that is not my problem and does make you lazy.
>Yet you are completely unwilling to quote anything when that's how an argument is supposed to worth.
No it isn't, an argument is me making a logical case with facts and information I have to oppose yours I brought several books links etc, that support my position, and whose sources and information I have checked, the Morality or private lives of the people who wrote these books I neither know nor care about.
>You quote things that supports your point of view and then you let the opposition come in with their own point of view and explain why your point of view is misguided.
No, you use your pool of knowledge and logic to out argue your opponent, it's like you've never seem a formal long form debate, sometimes this requires sources sometimes not, and I provided my sources.
>Another baseless accusation,.
Baseless claims are met with baseless accusations, the shroud of Turin is not legitimate, it was and is found to have been created sometime in the 13th century and it's first verifiable point of existence is in the hands of a French Templar, and the prevailing theory today is that it was actually a painted cloth that has had the paint wear away leaving a negative image there is also a theory that Leonardo da Vinci created it himself using himself as the model, for the face of the image.
>Blasphemy.
You betcha and I will CONTINUE to defame your jewish god. >You know what, I'll show you just how much jews hate christ.
Wrong, it proves nothing save that jews do not like or want Christianity within Israel. Weird that a jew heads the catholic church and jewish interest groups have been known to push and are still pushing Christianity on other portions of the world(specifically the not white portions) and specifically dislike the new testament, as they share the old testament with Christians, it doesn't prove it isn't jewish in origin at all not even a little fucking bit.
>Especially considering how if Christianity was Jewish they wouldn't divide and conquer their own people, they would've tried and unite
No they wouldn't, not if the doctrine those other jews were following Idolized the weak and pathetic as christianity does never mind the fact that the jews were in revolt and would have harshly dealt with anyone who went against the grain of what the majority of the Jewish/judean people wanted, which was war and to be out from under Rome.
Also I have seen your pathetic little video, it's actually quite funny.
>No your entire point is that you're making it out that the christians were barbaric for attacking the romans and doing to them what the romans did to them,
Except the evidence dictates the romans did not do this and in fact tried to syncretize with it failing to realize how poisonous the doctrine was, the fact is christians were not persecuted, they were tried and convicted of not following roman law in the city of Rome, and sentenced to a variety of different sentences and not all of them death, Paul for instance was in and out of jail relentlessly pushing his jewish poison on the Romans, a death sentence was actually a rarity.
>When in reality blah That's called hypocrisy.
No the Romans had the chance to do as you claim they would have, if they had they would have won and we would not be talking about this issue, or Christianity at all, as they would have killed it, permanently, because they had three hundred years to do so and did not because they were too rigid in the doctrine of syncretization. It is not hypocrisy, I wish they had done it properly and purged your shitstain of a religion off the face of the earth along with it's creators, the jews.

>>297518
>I'm a faggot
listen retard, when we talk about the aryan master race, we dont mean jewish special superior race, we mean the race that created the original sanskrit langauge that went on to become the basis for all western langauges. Ie the original white dominant culture.

>>297841
Suetonius was born in 69 AD based on The Life of the Caesars itself you fucking retard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius

>>297831
>luciferian
what is this shit, attempted niggermageing it?

>>297912
He follows the morning star which is a valid path for pagans or is a fool who stays within the abrahamic context and larps as a satan worshipper failing to realize that Lucifer being "Satan's" name is a modern fiction entirely, His proper name is Azazel or the Arrogance of El the old supreme god of the Polytheistic Hebrew pantheon when translated into english.

Is there an actual point to religious arguments on the internet? The same arguments get spammed a hundred times by both sides every time we have these threads, and at the end of the day nobody is ever convinced to change their minds. If someone wants a thread to discuss how they can follow their preferred religion - be it Christianity or Neopaganism - to the ideal of the White race, why not just hide the thread and let them talk amongst themselves? Don't these debates ever get tiresome?

>>297937
I asked a question because someone legitimately made an arguement that could change my mind, but they refused to respond again and give me more information about something they only alluded to.

>>297937
I know I get tired of it. While I have no right to make any requests on the matter I wonder if we could do something similar to the Christianity thread on /mlp/ and have different threads for each. Let the Pagans talk about our more /mlpol/ flavor of discussion and have another for Christianity. That way both sides can have their spots to talk about how best to follow their given doctrines and apply it to how to manage current events.

Like you said no one is going to convince the other side so useless to fling shit back and forth between us.

How does >christian feel about >>>/vx/98688 → →?
I've been wanting to pursue spirituality and can see the existence of chaos magick but I'm terrified of distancing myself from christ

>>297944
as a non christian I always advise anyone interested in this stuff to start studying the actual christian langauge first.

>>297937
No, for Pagans/Cosmotheists/National Socialists we are trying to awaken the Aryan spirit in christians who lack it and replace it with semite spirituality per pope pius the 11th if I recall and they oppose the race because of it, and For christians they are stupid and think we will fear their jewish demon if they just repeat that we're going to hell enough times, the point is to strengthern our case and see what new arguments each side has, I have seen many iteration of Pagan arguments but the guide here
>>297830
remains true to this day.

>>297884
Alright I'll admit I was wrong there.

>>297880
>Setting aside that there is nothing wrong with the man wanting multiple women as Polygyny
I never said there is anything wrong with polygyny ironically I said fornication was the issue, Which spreads STD's. Read before you actively make an accusation. In fact I'm totally for polygyny.

>This is a classical example of ad hominem
His argument was based on the ethical values of Christianity being bad, How else am I supposed to argue against that without bringing up his own ethics? This was the way I was looking at things. Also you have absolutely no right to claim the moral high ground saying that I've done an ad hominem attack when you've done it with Christians countless times, I.e "Christcuck" or "Christkike" Hypocrisy is a tell tale sign of someone who is dishonest and that is more than enough reason to bring into question your beliefs.

>Keep posting your holy scripture it literally means nothing because there is no Truth in it
You can't argue against Christianity without arguing against the very foundation of Christianity which is the bible. Do you not understand the reason of this. You claim I'm ignoring the truth yet you are the one that is completely dodging doing any research on the bible. You're just as guilty as I am in this regard. Moreover you claim that the bible is false. Then why does it's secular history line up absolutely perfectly, I.e Nineveh, Babylon, Egypt, Ur, Phoenicia, Hittites, Persia etc were all mentioned in the bible and were discovered.

>I see you missed my argument entirely, the religion is worthless because the book is worthless, the denominations are the examples of it's results.
Not an argument because you didn't explain why the bible was worthless and I've pointed many times to the contrary.

>I provided the evidence you have the time to peruse that evidence and check it's validity, then provide ACTUAL EVIDENCE that I am wrong you fail to do that, that is not my problem and does make you lazy.
You haven't provided evidence because it's your argument, You must post the evidence so I can bring a counter argument, Plus you completely invalidate the bible thus I can't argue back to begin with because if I do you'll simply say the bible isn't real which means everything I try will just be pointless noise.

Baseless claims are met with baseless accusations, the shroud of Turin is not legitimate, it was and is found to have been created sometime in the 13th century and it's first verifiable point of existence is in the hands of a French Templar, and the prevailing theory today is that it was actually a painted cloth that has had the paint wear away leaving a negative image there is also a theory that Leonardo da Vinci created it himself using himself as the model, for the face of the image.
Still no evidence

>No they wouldn't, not if the doctrine those other jews were following Idolized the weak and pathetic as christianity does never mind the fact that the jews were in revolt and would have harshly dealt with anyone who went against the grain of what the majority of the Jewish/judean people wanted, which was war and to be out from under Rome.
Jesus said still to follow the old testament law. Which ecclesiastes 3 is the perfect representation on what the bible actually says about war. If you're wondering where Jesus said follow the old testament. Matthew 5:17-21. Pauline doctrine is bullshit.

>Except the evidence dictates the romans did not do this and in fact tried to syncretize with it failing to realize how poisonous the doctrine was, the fact is christians were not persecuted, they were tried and convicted of not following roman law in the city of Rome, and sentenced to a variety of different sentences and not all of them death, Paul for instance was in and out of jail relentlessly pushing his jewish poison on the Romans, a death sentence was actually a rarity.
Constantine won the battle of milvan bridge, The germanic people readily converted to a form of Christianity called arian Christianity, If anything catholicism is where most of the poison in Christianity stems from and it's the one with the most paganistic background. Most protestant denom's also borrow heavily from Roman Catholicism. Which is why the orthodox christians of the slavic nations are in a better position that we are in currently.

>No the Romans had the chance to do as you claim they would have, if they had they would have won and we would not be talking about this issue, or Christianity at all, as they would have killed it, permanently, because they had three hundred years to do so and did not because they were too rigid in the doctrine of syncretization. It is not hypocrisy, I wish they had done it properly and purged your shitstain of a religion off the face of the earth along with it's creators, the jews.
My claim was that you claiming that the christians destroying pagan rights was hypocritical because the pagans were doing the same thing, In fact you simply bolstered my argument and said that it's not hypocrisy when it clearly was hypocrisy.

>>297948
Cosmotheist? Never heard of it.

>>297990
https://cosmotheistchurch.org/
100% legit Dr. Pierce Church.

>>297829
>>297831
These are good post and I agree with your views.
The base of belief is made by someone other than themselves so they cannot appreciate the world within themselves freely, they have no rule over their thoughts if they are always worried about what god may think about it or if they straying from Jesus's path, they follow another mans steps rather than making their own.
The church is a replication of a mosque or synagogue into Christendom and has been the center of Jewish subversion for a long time, it never was European and will never be but people cling to it out of desperation for being a member of a group, some Christians themselves are good people yet they follow a false order that is foreign to them and is incorporated into their own beliefs as a form of thought to follow, there is lots of Jewish trickery around the bible itself as a tool of control over others minds. The whole church stinks of Abrahamic laws and I have never agreed to any of their beliefs either, they want people to submit to their god or be sent to hell which is just a mind game.
We are all sinners, there is no life without flaws and no one is completely picture perfect, it is themselves who make things happen out of their own willpower, not the power of god but rather the will of man who is himself and no other, he is his own king of the land within his head.
God doesn't own you with actual chains but they give themselves to some entity who they then let influence their actions, they are not true men if they let someone else tell them what to think in everything they do.
>>297937
Some people have a sense of vengeance towards Christianity from the Jewish connections, they want to prove the point that Christianity has a Jewish ancestry and I think it's always nice to have shit flinging in the background, it doesn't hurt to talk shit about god if we have the choice of doing it or not, we're going to hell anyway so I might as well piss on him as much as I can on the way down.
>>297948
This.
They are willfully giving themselves to an imaginary place created by some guy rather than standing up for themselves, they have a soul and a personality that is subject to their own individuality that they wholly ignore, they are white men following a Jewish order that is stealing their spirits, they are under the spell of influence from the bible like the Jews and Muslims are.
They are spellbound to "god", who is actually the devil in disguise, he has chains around the minds of men through the incantations of the bible, the church attending followers of Christ are the real devil worshipers, Satan IS their god and Christians are heretics for following that of which is not their own beliefs, the church is Satanic in everything they do, they are that of their fathers who are the Jews who in turn are the devils sons, if Jesus said so supposedly.
>>297944
Kek. Do what (You) want.

So I'll start and say I'm a Catholic but I keep seeing all this talk of Paganism and the Aryan spirit and such. Thing I can't ever seen to grasp though is what sort of Paganism is everyone talking about. With all the different tribes and clans present throughout European history there must have been hundreds of not thousands of different groups all with their own pantheons, deities, and morals.

It always seems like people grab a hand full of different ones like that one banner we got about Atlas, then got those more leaning towards the Norse pantheon. I'm trying to figure out if you guys have a distinct group you follow or if it is picking whichever you feel closest to regardless of what time period and ethnicity it derived from.

Curious to but Europe had a hard time fighting back Islam and currently grappling with the Jews but wouldn't it be dangerious if Europe was splintered into hundreds of different tribes that all have to suddenly unite and coordinate to fight these massive hordes? Christanity certainly had its fracturing to with Catholics betraying the Orthodoxy and helping destory Constantinople, corrupt Popes helping start ward within Europe for political gain and wealth, and the Protestants helping Islam and attacking Catholics.

Just trying to understand what people mean when they say 'Pagan'. Got a friend who recently converted to it and said he worships some Norse god and besides building a wooden edifice to him there doesn't seem to be anything else he does.

Bit curious to but what's all your opinions on those Tumblr witch types who talk about being nonbinary and two spirit and worshiping crystals while dancing around like drunk buffoons to cast hexes on their ex boyfriend and Trump.

You won't convince me to become an apostate but like Thomas Aquinas said it's important to learn about these things so you can understand the short comings and faults in your beliefs to better them.

>>298020
I'll happily explain my of my own:
Heathen or Pantheist.
I worship primarily: My ancestors, the ancestors in the land I live in, the Wight's & the other spirits on this plain of existence.
These are my primary worships
I worship secondarily: Two of the A/S pantheon as me and my wifes patron gods, Epona as there is a historic connection in my local area
These are the gods I want to gain favor from should they turn their eyes on me.
My tertiary worship: A large collection of A/S, Norse & Celtic/Romano British deitys.
These are the gods I want to not be angry with me if they do come across me.
I have another set of worship & that is the veneration of deities in lands where I am not resident. If for example I travel through an area of Japan I would ensure I attend Jinja if I am staying in an area longer than a day.

This can be very interesting as sometimes you really have to delve to discover an areas old gods.

At the end of the day nearly all Euro Pagan religions stem from a single source but diverge. It's how Romans were able to seamlessly integrate most local religions.

The issue with Islam in Europe now in many ways is actually not an issue with Islam but with our ruling class.

I have mates who would try to use 'witchcraft' but we very much stay away from all that. I think among most sensible folk you don't touch that kind of thing. Ceremony, worship and festivals would be recognisable to anyone who attends a church.

>>298020
>So I'll start and say I'm a Catholic but I keep seeing all this talk of Paganism and the Aryan spirit and such.
To a certain degree I would call myself a follower of Celtic belief, what type of Catholic are you?
>Thing I can't ever seen to grasp though is what sort of Paganism is everyone talking about.
European paganism, (mostly) descends from Aryan cultures or Indo-European beliefs, the pagans are generally adherent to their ancestry so most choose the group closest to them, some choose orders that are disassociated from them but most don't.
>With all the different tribes and clans present throughout European history there must have been hundreds of not thousands of different groups all with their own pantheons, deities, and morals.
There was lots of different organizations throughout Europe that held pagan beliefs, each was centered around the old wisdom of the peoples forefathers of those specified groups and their stories of the world, the Germanic tribes had their own beliefs which were completely separate from that of the Britannic, the Scandinavians or Norse had Germanic ties that made them similar to each other, like the Romans and Greeks had close relations in their religions.
>I'm trying to figure out if you guys have a distinct group you follow or if it is picking whichever you feel closest to regardless of what time period and ethnicity it derived from.
They are broad terming the pagan cultures that are of Indo-European origin, when referring to pagan morals and culture they reflect their favored system of thought or reciting certain personal belief.
>Curious to but Europe had a hard time fighting back Islam and currently grappling with the Jews but wouldn't it be dangerious if Europe was splintered into hundreds of different tribes that all have to suddenly unite and coordinate to fight these massive hordes?
Only the strongest will be the ones to survive in the end, when push comes to shove those who are true friends will reveal themselves while the enemies leave you in the dark, partnership happens in unexpected ways when it is a life or death situation.
>Christanity certainly had its fracturing to with Catholics betraying the Orthodoxy and helping destory Constantinople, corrupt Popes helping start ward within Europe for political gain and wealth, and the Protestants helping Islam and attacking Catholics.
There have always been traitors, a larger group like Christianity never succeeded in having a golden area throughout Europe because Europeans are inherently non Christian, total domination has always caused heartache and sorrow, so it is best to leave the indigenous inhabitants to their own devices rather than help them.
>Bit curious to but what's all your opinions on those Tumblr witch types who talk about being nonbinary and two spirit and worshiping crystals while dancing around like drunk buffoons to cast hexes on their ex boyfriend and Trump.
They are living a life of madness, they are not true pagans but rather more akin to Satanists.
>>298028
I too worship Epona but to a more zealous extent, I agree with your beliefs, except for that of witchcraft.

>>297983
>I never said there is anything wrong with polygyny ironically I said fornication was the issue, Which spreads STD's.
His morality there has no bearing whatsoever on his work, he and his wife agreed to those conditions in their marriage, I disagree with his actions but his life is his own and it is his choice to make, especially living under ZOG.
>His argument was based on the ethical values of Christianity being bad, How else am I supposed to argue against that without bringing up his own ethics?
That argument is not Richard Carrier's, he follows neo-christian morality and values like all good leftists do and most "white nationalists" do, it is Nietzsche's, mine and that of the proprietor of the blog West's Darkest Hour who edited that review as i said several times, and he does notify you where he changtes things as well. Do not confuse the issue.
>Also you have absolutely no right to claim the moral high ground saying that I've done an ad hominem attack when you've done it with Christians countless times, I.e "Christcuck" or "Christkike" Hypocrisy is a tell tale sign of someone who is dishonest and that is more than enough reason to bring into question your beliefs.
Those are not me attacking your character nor the character of anyone you have used as a source, I have not committed an ad hominem attack I have used mocking names for Christianity, and for it's follwers as the religion and those who follow it in any form absolutely deserve it, but the words are simply alternatives for Chrsiatin or Christianity not attack on you or your character that choice does not invalidate the arguments I have made.
>You can't argue against Christianity without arguing against the very foundation of Christianity which is the bible. Do you not understand the reason of this. You claim I'm ignoring the truth yet you are the one that is completely dodging doing any research on the bible.
I have done the research, the book is a falsity, and it as such cannot be used to form an argument nor is arguing over which translations or interpretations do not have any merit as the entirety of it is Un-Aryan and does not freflect the true hitory of the world
>You're just as guilty as I am in this regard. Moreover you claim that the bible is false.
it is, the jews used some true historical events and places but they have been proven not to have been in egypt at any point, Codoh I believe has some work done on this, if you qwant to go search for it, the story of moses is a fiction in it's entirety.
>Then why does it's secular history line up absolutely perfectly, I.e Nineveh, Babylon, Egypt, Ur, Phoenicia, Hittites, Persia etc were all mentioned in the bible and were discovered.
Places mentioned in the bible being real places DOES NOT MEAN IT IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THOSE EVENTS, much of what is in there is proven not to have happened, it is likely that they caused the collapse of some of those societies and wrote the names in there as a kind of trophy, a memory of what they have done, who they have outlasted.
>Not an argument because you didn't explain why the bible was worthless and I've pointed many times to the contrary.
The book is worthless specifically because of your behavior in defending it, it was written by jews from start to finish, you take up their religion, their morality, their worship of the weak and pitiful, and their desire to use them to destroy all that is Strong and powerful in this world, in fact it encourages you NOT to act, by sidestepping this world entirely placing your reward outside of it, but only if you DON'T do these things it arbitrarily calls bad, also hell is real scripturaly, it is noted not as the lake of fire but more similar to the purgatory of Catholicism, and takes your responsibility to it and placing your responsibility in the hands of a fictional fucking jew.
>You haven't provided evidence because it's your argument, You must post the evidence so I can bring a counter argument.
Two books right in my first post and I mentioned three others I think. go read, invalidate the arguments on the falsity of your holy book and of your jewish savior of the essene cult of judaism if you can, you cannot do so without a circular argument, or sidestepping the evidence like Fundamentalists do with evolution and the earth being much older than your holy book says but I would love to see you try.
>Plus you completely invalidate the bible thus I can't argue back to begin with because if I do you'll simply say the bible isn't real which means everything I try will just be pointless noise.
You can, by proving it has merit, I have read and seen too much scholarship that shows the bible and it's narrative are false and the best lie use a grain of truth, even if the jews used some dharmic conceptions within, as the religion wouldn't have survived otherwise, it is from them, it is theirs, NOT ours.
>Still no evidence
Go search, this is in the realm of common knowledge I suggest that people like you go here
https://eliminatedleaves.wordpress.com/
and see if you can debunk this man, who used to believe exactly what you believe and in fact wrote a paper on it when he did.
He is now a priest of the 14 words, even though their fulfillment means his death and despises your religion about as much as I do.
>Jesus said still to follow the old testament law.
I know exactly what the fictional jew said, the old testament is as bad as than the new testament, it's morality is FROM JEWS, it is opposed to Our people and you follow it! Cease this foolishness and return to our ways, yes you and your kind of spiritual semites, destroyed it, with trickery violence and perscution on a scale we never did to you, but we can rebuild it, we can take what we know today which is a surprising amount, and actually quite broad, if not terribly deep, depending where you look, and recreate it, it is within our blood, our genetics, and it comes from OUR minds OUR Ancestors, NOT the fucking jews!

>>297983
>Constantine won the battle of milvan bridge, The germanic people readily converted to a form of Christianity called arian Christianity, If anything catholicism is where most of the poison in Christianity stems from and it's the one with the most paganistic background. Most protestant denom's also borrow heavily from Roman Catholicism. Which is why the orthodox christians of the slavic nations are in a better position that we are in currently.
Read the deschner book and Fair Race, or I will not continue discussing this with you also keep up with this category on the translators blog
https://chechar.wordpress.com/category/kriminalgeschichte-des-christentums-books/
Christianty spread among our people via trickery from the top down through violence once they corrupted our Royalty, it is not natural and it did not win by virtue of strength IT SLOLE OURS THROUGH JUDAIC TACTICS TO GAIN IT'S FALSE VICTORY.
>My claim was that you claiming that the christians destroying pagan rights was hypocritical because the pagans were doing the same thing, In fact you simply bolstered my argument and said that it's not hypocrisy when it clearly was hypocrisy.
The "pagans" were NOT DOING THAT THOUGH, you complete fucking thickskulled christcuck, they were PROSECUTED, for violating Rome's law, their traditions which were jewish, were not stopped they were allowed to practice, and preach or Saul the Jew of Tarsus would have been executed for doing so, and that isn't what he was executed for, he was executed for fomenting rebellion, a grave crime in Rome, and really under every state that has ever existed, that many pagans were also executed for.

>>298007
Hell is not real, nor is sin, get out of the abrahamic conceptions brother, you will feel much better.

>>298028
>>298029
Neat to read all these different gods and spirits. Roman Catholic myself but it would be delusional to ignore how much European Pagan influence there is in European tradition, language, and how it's affected Christan ceremonies as well. Feel like my buddy is doing it mostly as a larp thing since he converted after playing the new God of War and Assassin's Creed and bugs me when I see anyone of any faith claim to follow an ideology but just follow the most basic and surface level stuff as a crutch rather then actually following the teachings and honoring tradition.

Can see it with the government or the corruption in the Church invoking the name of God but going against any sort of morality or responsibility their station requires.

Big reason those Tumblr witch types piss me off. Can tell you guys know your history and have these beliefs as a way to honor your ancestors and gods and understand the requirements that come with it but then got these chicks buying geodes off Etsy and whining about how they want to use a spell to give their ex boyfriend acne of make him trip on a sidewalk and how they have a Nature goddess spirit living in them.

>>298020
>Thing I can't ever seen to grasp though is what sort of Paganism is everyone talking about.
Every indo-european religion from that of the Nordics and Celts and Anglos, to the
Aryan Romans, to the Greeks to the Aryans of Persia and India, though it goes by many different names, it is the same concept, Natural Law, Dharma, National Socialism, Physis, etc, this is the central conception of all "pagan" religions it is Universal in it's appearance in our ancient religions, but this universal law that all our peoples have discovered, dictates the exact opposite of universalism. this is where you start and this is ecactly what Christianity betrays, not entirely or the religion wouldn't have survived at all, but enough that it must be removed from our people, by force if necessary.

>>298029
Ah nice. She's fickle but very lucky to have a previous area of hers within my location and at least 2 other major centers very close by.
The Witchcraft thing is totally personal though as I said have many friends who practice it and a few who don't touch it. I fall into the don't touch it but there's plenty of things that would be labled as witchcraft which all of us do I guess! My work is much more liminal
>>298064
Brostaratu They're the worst, even worse than the wiccans. It's like finding a "catholic" priest who marries men to men.

>>298063
The Abrahamic religions are not the basis of my beliefs.
>>298068
>Ah nice. She's fickle but very lucky to have a previous area of hers within my location and at least 2 other major centers very close by.
Nice to have someone with the leverage of being in the presence of the old altars, may Epona bestow thee with horse pussy.
>The Witchcraft thing is totally personal though as I said have many friends who practice it and a few who don't touch it.
Understandable.
>I fall into the don't touch it but there's plenty of things that would be labled as witchcraft which all of us do I guess! My work is much more liminal
There are many witchy practices throughout this lands history, I get why you don't want to get involved with this business since it can put off some.

>>298072
I do not think they are but Sin and Hell, are abrahamic concepts, and two of the worst ones.

>>298072
Blessings to you too Anon. May her hooves help you on your path. Give her ears a scratch when you meet her.
We need seers and those of us that don't delve do appreciate the work those who do do. <3

So Tumblr false witchcraft winos... basically they (they as in the ones who distributed this stuff to cull the spiritual connection) took old magic, and teachings, and wisdom, boiled out all the stuff that makes it work right and spoon fed that unworking mess to the masses. Technically, it could be brute forced to work, but the reasons why it may or may not work isn't latent with that emasculated new age witchery.
>>298073
>Hell and Sin
So the way I see it is two fold.
First is the societal construction, working on one's Christian virtues (which also existed outside of that religion before and in many other places) could in theory form a good society. However the leanings in the very broad sense is to deaden to the experience of living and turn people into only sheep. Technically it should by those who are ingrained with the full system should make the perfect society. Needless to say there are issues.
That's not the case personally for everyone, but the means and methods impart servitude and growing who is captured into the religion.
Hell from my understanding from a view point of obtaining a goal and from lectures from an exorcist is a means to 'purify' the soul so it is pleasing to the Christian God.
Where the afterlife is about viewing, considering, thinking, living, everything through God. That means the rest of the being dead existence (if that is what you choose) is worshipping... forever.
>>298063
>Hell is not real, nor is sin
It's real, but alot of places like hell are real too. Doesn't make it special.
Sin is a bit of an interesting topic in the abrahamic sense it can be more destructive.
In the Greek imbalance sense, which to be fair is sometimes considered in the abrahamic religions, it is the excess or absence of a particular quality. There are lots of qualities, and very specific ones too.
>two of the worst ones.
How so?

>>298073
The ideas are directly descended from the beliefs of the Jews, who have always been fascinated by the various forms of evil, I am a sinner by all their accounts of belief and I revel in the blasphemous disgust that it brings upon them, for what I do is absolutely against their way of life and in those of their eyes I am a traitorous terrorizer that curses them.
>>298080
>Blessings to you too Anon.
Thanks, you too.
>May her hooves help you on your path.
My path is following those hoof trails.
>Give her ears a scratch when you meet her.
I will, if she wants it.
>We need seers and those of us that don't delve do appreciate the work those who do do. <3
Horse business is my main work and I always delve deep. <卐3

>>298081
>First is the societal construction, working on one's Christian virtues (which also existed outside of that religion before and in many other places) could in theory form a good society.
This is Aristotlean Virtue ethics, if I recall correctly and is wholly deprecated in Christianity today as it's source is not the scripture, wholly pagan in it's conception and lacked the word sin when talking of the opposites, better to do away with sin completely as it's just too Jewish, I have found no talk of such a thing anywhere else in religious thought. I don't think that the gods or the Supreme Force care if you do this thing or that thing, they obviously don't, the punishment for being gluttonous is part and parcel of nature, eat too much you get too fat, you get weak, you die, why continue punishment for that in the afterlife? Dual purpose that person who did that, serves as an example not to, to the people around him but gluttony is not a sin, it is unhealthy but the word sin implies the gods will punish you, Our people never needed or wanted that kind of godly punishment or monitoring.
>Hell from my understanding from a view point of obtaining a goal and from lectures from an exorcist is a means to 'purify' the soul so it is pleasing to the Christian God.
I don't really care what spiritual semites have to say about their religious conceptions, Hell is now and always has been about punishment for sin, their jewish demon watches their every move, and explicitly punishes them for being pro-Aryan, they do not realize this, and continue to bow down to it as if it is a god, when no god I know wants you to do that, they would much rather you stand as a man than grovel at their feet so to speak.
>Where the afterlife is about viewing, considering, thinking, living, everything through God. That means the rest of the being dead existence (if that is what you choose) is worshipping... forever.
The afterlife is being eaten by the Jewish Demon Yahweh, your sould is consumed by it, ripped from the Great cycle by our enemy's god, they escape this, by feeding our souls to it through christcuckery or like that of a chicken as in their yearly ritual to absolve themselves of their "sins".
>Hell is not real, nor is sin
It's real, but alot of places like hell are real too. Doesn't make it special.
Sin is a bit of an interesting topic in the abrahamic sense it can be more destructive.
>In the Greek imbalance sense, which to be fair is sometimes considered in the abrahamic religions,
Srtolen from pagans again,it is not abrahamic, and they hold no claim to it, only can lay claim to stealing and warping what was there to fit there disgusting worldview.
>it is the excess or absence of a particular quality. There are lots of qualities, and very specific ones too.
I am aware of this, but still don't particularly like it, there are better ways to go about things, in my opinion, and many of the alternatives have not yet been warped by jewish hands or those who are spiritually jewish.
>How so?
Eternal punishment, is just some straight bullshit, and constantly being watched by the Gods does not make for moral people, in my opinion, it makes for cowardly sheep.
>>298086
This I get, I still don't like us applying it to ourselves though.
Piss off your enemies let them call it what they will, makes perfect sense.

>>297841
>You haven't provided even one argument
This is ironic to read when you dismissed my entire post because of some stupid meme I attached.
>all your doing is vomiting grr Jew bad
I believe now that you did not even read my post, because remembering what I have written and looking back at what I wrote, I do much more than just attack Jews. Yes, Jews ''are'' bad, this is beyond dispute as far as I'm concerned, but the problems with Christianity, '''as was indicated in my first post that you did not even read''' goes much deeper than ''just'' the obvious and undeniable connection with Jews.
>You just refuse to listen.
Still waiting for you to argue against anything I said.
>bumping up suetonius' birth to 69A.D with absolutely zero evidence
I didn't even mention Suetonius, retard.

>>298718
This is why I don't respect atheists.
All open atheists are pretentious faggots unwilling to see the value of an entirely Christian country and help it happen.
They feel mentally superior for "knowing" that a myth is a myth, even though the value of it sails far over their head just like any joke more complicated than the kind of "Hurr durr sky fairy" shit you exclusively see on atheist pseudointellectual circlejerk sites.
The human mind just isn't built to handle the lack of a religion. That's why so many atheists worship and defend the deep state/big pharma/megacorporations/"The Expert" priests of Pop Pseudoscience.

That's why they put cafeteria christians to shame with their "Okay a god probably exists and we should probably be good but fuck Christians anyway I swear I'm not Christian and it's oppressive for them to want us to be good and God's a meanie for flooding the world once and making us try and find the cancer cure ourselves" bullshit.

That's why so many atheists love SJWism, turn bashing Christians and pretending they're oppressed into their new religion, and loathe the sight of big happy Christian/Mormon families. That's why so many atheists desperate to purchase some trendier and more exclusive God will end up addicted to snake-oil salesmen like Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop.

They'll bully Christianity because Christianity lets itself be bullied, and they'll keep bullying Christianity because nobody stops them. They like feeling weak and strong at the same time. They like feeling offended. They like playing the victim as they bash christians and normalize killing Christians and aid/abet jewish NGOs that swarm Christian lands with non-Christians even though that decreases literacy and increases crime against the gays.

People weren't meant to be raised without tradition, morals, or identity. "Let your kid choose his religion and cultural traditions when he's old enough" is a jew lie. Of course a child raised in a Christian household is going to abandon God and leap aboard the first trendy thing he sees, he's desperate to be a part of a community.

If individual atheists understood why Christianity is better than being a Muslim, Atheist, Kung Flu Covidian, an India Supremacist nigger who loves the caste system and meditates atop plague corpses, or a Karen who swears her bullshit "chakra-cleansing" vagina crystals make her a "Witch"...
They would take their irrational hatred of Jesus and desire to look above the crowd, shove it up their ass, and pretend to be good Christians to help uphold that aspect of our culture instead of trying to normalize atheism, promote any alternative to God, and play the fucking victim.
At best, an atheist's mind is like an unguarded castle. But because it is unguarded, jews have an easy time subverting it.

And if any Atheist community was actually dedicated to logic, science, and reason instead of the blind worship of leftist (((celebrities))) and selfish baseless virtue-signalling over your love of (((humanist))) lies they would realize "Hate Facts" are true, feminists are the enemy of intellectual progress, jews are the enemy of freedom, niggers are the enemy of evolution, and the holocaust is a scientifically impossible myth. They would realize white people are superior and the best hope for world peace, an environmentally healthier planet, space travel, and all those other silly things they claim to love. http://hatefacts.subvert.pw/hub.html

>>298729
I went through a stint as an atheist, maybe a spiritualist. A 'skeptic' but that word has be beaten and bloodied. Instead I sought the truth, and by my deductions and observations I found the religion lacking. Eventually I found the stuff, but overall not fully impressed. I'm sure a different me would be someone more akin to Fr. Chad Ripperger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMcvZaiBwe4&t=0
Maybe that's pride talking but I've found alot of fulfillment and contentment with the path I've chosen.
>If individual atheists understood why Christianity is better than being a Muslim, Atheist, Kung Flu Covidian, an India Supremacist nigger who loves the caste system and meditates atop plague corpses, or a Karen who swears her bullshit "chakra-cleansing" vagina crystals make her a "Witch"...
That's part of the reason why denominations of Christianity happen is different sets of behaviors and goals don't align. Sure the big target is to just worship God and Jesus, but different motivations just pull the strings apart.
The fad 'traditions' are fads to entrap the mind and soul. There is just enough truth there to be tantalizing and useful, but not fully enough that the truth is truly self evident and immutable.
Needless to say even older religions than the dune ones without the taint have some pretty nifty stuff too.
>They would take their irrational hatred of Jesus and desire to look above the crowd, shove it up their ass, and pretend to be good Christians to help uphold that aspect of our culture instead of trying to normalize atheism, promote any alternative to God, and play the fucking victim.
Christianity as a whole religion has fat stacks of cash, and could do more. That's like any other religion, but Christianity kind of gave up after the crusades. Sure things still happen, but there isn't a massive fever to preserve the past and worldly culture. All there is, happens to be individuals doing individual things. That's good, but restoring the vigor of the spirit is almost nonexistent.
The destruction of folk lore, myths, and gods, and spirits and importantly stories doesn't sit well with me.
One of the good things is that it absorbs people who have nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vddwv0mRRFU&t=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DakEcY7Z5GU&t=25
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
>At best, an atheist's mind is like an unguarded castle. But because it is unguarded, jews have an easy time subverting it.
Well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czpve_uNiLM&t=140
No. Yes, but no. The issue is that for average people and below average they see the fuckery, but the whole picture isn't there. For the 'academics' the picture is carefully fed to them and have high tendency to be obedient sheep anyway in the largerish timescale.
The few who do resist are attacked by their brainwashed kin, Christian or not.
So to 'be' 'Christian' is one thing for unity.
But to shirk the past and ancient traditions would kill people. By that end the goal of assuming into the role of the savior figure yourself will be lost. To become more holy and better to also bring it about in the world. There wouldn't be the sort of messiah figure, except for a preplanned (((plant))).
The biggest positive I've deduced is that spirituality (sometimes some structures of religion) is the behavioral, mental and spiritual manipulation towards an end. The issue is that is rarely discussed and actually going about it in a meaningful way, even in clinical psychology is hard. Ideally the person becomes more.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE54cnshZ83oQ6rBmlzJJqpyvXscSuRg6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4UxZ965w2M&t=178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gsC9Kzuebk&t=2516

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvLZwJHJsH8&t=67

>>296569
why do people here think religion will save us

>>298729
Thank you for illustrating the point of that video

>>298729
assuming that atheists are edgy teenagers is what makes me fucking hate you faggots. most atheists grew out of religion as a child, or when they realized all their greatest years were spent of a fucking sham made to control people like every other religion. white people dont need religion, we dont need your dogmatic bullshit to survive.

>>298020
>what sort of paganism is everyone talking about
I think the problem is that we've eaten the forbidden fruit, us non christfags, much like the eden story, we've lost our way. You cant go back to what was once there, you have to kindle fire with wood. you might find charcoal in the ashes of the past, but christianity snuffed out the fire big time.

Luckily imho the practicality of this kind of spiritualism has its origins in natural law; traditions, foods with medicinal and psychosomatic effects, etc various superstitions. they incorporate to me in a kind of witchcraft.

believing in one of the old deities is also difficult, but I'd argue not much more difficult than believing in jesus himself, who is misrepresented so constantly in media that to suggest most christians have an accurate idea of his beliefs seems suspect at best. The moral high ground of christianity is really nothing more than a fascade because christianity doesnt exist. It's as pointlessly reductive and monolithic as "humanity" and not "the races"

do not speak to me about catholicism and expect the same respect as a more conservative christian. similarly, i dont expect christfags to lay accolates at the feat of a heathen. But I do expect my racial brothers and sisters cooperation in defense agains the enemy rather than purity spiraling us to death.

>>298761
>>298766
The only atheists I ever met were edgy teens/bitter adults who needed Jesus, but loathed him. A good religion could save them. Maybe they could be a good influence on christian communities, joining in the "Kayfabe" and singing hymns yet guiding actual sheep away from lefty poison and giving them logical life advice.
>>298764
This is a gay method of argumentation. Your view of me doesn't make that video right for signing Family Guy's "Religion makes you dumb" song. If I was dumb, and religion was only for the dumb, I would have always been like this before religion. Therefore, religion does not make you dumb. Checkmate, atheist.
>>298751
I too have gone through a time without God. Was raised without him. But if Christianity isn't the solution, what is? I'm open to the idea that there might be something better out there, but I can't imagine what it might be.
Maybe humans need to think some things are "Sacred". Maybe they need fear of The Divine growing up until they're old enough to appreciate the deeper societal reasons why it's good for society that good people agreed not to kill each other or steal from each other or covet thy neighbour's wife.
Can someone appreciate truly appreciate a religion until they've seen lives ruined by cults and "Dead pet spirit-summoning" snake oil salesmen, and foreign countries harmed by their shitty religions?
And the dumbasses who'll believe anything... If Christians don't get to them first, some other religion or cult or evil political party/liedeology will. Pop culture's full of made-up Christian retards who only find personal fulfillment after abandoning the religion and its "stuffy old rules", like that stupid Paul movie. But IRL, girls who limited their sluttiness as young adults turned out better than those who didn't.
Decades ago, I saw a garden where ancient Boomers can rent garden space and grow whatever they wanted, and come here to harvest their food at will. We were the only ones there. No cameras or guards were there. Anyone could have stolen anything. Anyone could piss or shit anywhere. Anyone could have smashed whatever they wanted. But nobody did, because there was an unspoken truce between everyone here. It was like a beautiful silence nobody wanted to break. This isn't some gay metaphor, a friend's granddad grew tomatoes there.
Niggers would probably stomp on it for existing and not being theirs. Niggers need Jesus but most are too dumb to really get him.

>>298028
>>298029
>>298064
>witchcraft bad
Personally i feel the threat of satanism is real even for pagans.
But for the tumblr grifters mark? I think its just intentionally fashionable grifting, much of the christian sects in america are really no different than this. the why is obvious

they have no male guidance and the baubels are spread to them so that they never grasp real paranormal research and herbal remedies.

>>298020
As a child under the age of ten I knew a chick whose fucktarded boomer single mom was DEEP down the retarded fake-magic rabbit hole and addicted to paying scammers to "summon the spirit of her pets" and tell her that her dead dogs were still doing fine in doggy heaven.
The way this fat fucking fourty-something 300-and-something-pound whale would light up when given good news, and childishly over-emote for the entire thing, it was annoying and creepy. Like watching a pantomime imitation of a human. When the faggot faker sniffing like a dog said something like "I missed hearing mommy's voice again! I wish mommy would talk to me more!" it hit her like a sledgehammer to the balls and made her look and sound like she was about to cry. But never actually cry. It's like both were performers trying to trick each other, but only one knew what was going on and got paid for it.
Back then I was a smug atheist boy unable to understand why anyone would take this bullshit seriously for even a second, and I didn't understand people or psychological concepts, so I was unable to talk her mom out of this.
But more importantly, I wasn't able to help talk the whale's daughter into being okay with the shit happening outside her control. I'm glad I never did anything super-cunty like call her mom a retard in front of her or say she reminds me of her mom. But she always felt bad about her mom and I wish I could have said something so smart it would have helped her stop feeling bad about her boomer mom like I stopped feeling bad about mine. Her mom was loud and embarassing and annoying and incredibly insensitive, but she was probably even worse when she didn't have an audience. All she ever wanted to talk about was her mom, but her stories never changed much. I only got to talk to the girl during breaks on school days, but back then I remember thinking if I talked to her enough about whatever she wanted to talk about I'd eventually instantly help her have a breakthrough about everything.
One day the girl and her mom moved away, and I never saw them again. Their names are common as fuck and I couldn't find them on facebook (back when I used it) or any other site like that. I don't know if they're still alive or if they're doing okay. But whenever I think of spirit-summoning or demon-summoning or witch hexing or tea leaf shit or chakra yoga or "I swear I see aura and my eyes change colour when angry" lies or "Chemo-free cancer-curing vagina crystals for wellness and sexual energy restoration" or psychic vampire repellent or seances or no-touch kung fu or tarot card readings or any other kind of Magical Woo bullshit, I can't stop myself from thinking of those two. Even though they never did no-touch kung fu. Still reminds me of them because of the hand-wavey shit.
Ok fine, chakra makes me think of Naruto and tarot cards make me think of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, but the rest of the magical bullshit out there still makes me think of them.
I hope being an ear willing to listen helped her, because back then that's all I could be.
My opinion on those two-spirit nonbinary tumblr witch crystal-buyers? They need Jesus and their exploiters belong in jail for fraud.

>>298781
Who's an atheist? Your very lazy strawman arguments arent even aimed at me. All you're doing is proving yourself ignorant. By all means, persist.

>>298783
>satanism vs satan corp. ism
Forces of evil are in the world. No matter how you slice it, aliens, reptilians, demons, devils, fallen angels, ((())) the same general patterns show up time and time again.
Satanistists kind of like new age witchcraft is 'rebellious' people just sort of doing it.
Then there are people working for and under evil influences.
That's... sort of tangential, but the physical force that is manifest right now is the structures, ((())), and useful idiots.
>witchcraft bad
Kind of like playing with fire, very handy for many situations, but without care can lead to negative outcomes. Such as bad repercussions, ie death, financial troubles, accidently destroying your mind, being possessed, ect.
Samething with improper psychological techniques.
/vx/ thread is for that.
>>298787
>Do cunts use logic and reason? No.
The thing is they were 'splashing' the emotional waves to see if others are in harmony. Barring that they try to force others to sing to their tune if cunts. Being a man, or a more dominant will can see them shift painfully.
Note this is for average and below average women. Which is a high percentage, but not everyone.
So yes it was all a play, and that's more less what it. The mother wanted sympathy, and to watch the medium do silly characters.
The daughter grew up in that environment and is imitating.
Technically it is possible for that magic stuff, but faking it is easy. False attributions of paranormal stuff is irritating, even the exorcists from the Catholic Church have an extensive list and check list to see if someone is actually possessed. Still the validity of circumstantial evidence, and those trying to capture documentable evidence is rife with all sorts of potential vectoes of failure and error.
>>298781
>moral and social grace to not being a massive dick
Some people need it to be spelled out clearly, and some people can't handle being outside of a structured rule system. That's the largest part what Christianity is on paper.
Does it work though?
>If Christianity isn't the answer what is?
Striving for the pinnacle of who you are in every aspect. To be the Übermenche. That isn't for everyone I do think the world might be better off that way. Philosophy asks those questions, religion gives them to you. I like self improvement as actual self improvement with distinct parts that you can tell. Where one can share the overflowing cup they have with others of their own freewill so they too can know a full cup and how it springs forth infinitely with goodness and Truth. Technically that is what Christianity sorta does, but that has its own shortcomings.
>Dumbasses who will believe anything
Will continue to believe anything unless some character (virtue growth) and or spiritual growth happens.
>>298779
While technically you can always go back. It is one memory wipe and soul readjustment away. But operating outside of the umbrella when appropriate (because sometimes natural law and Christianity also work in some circumstances) is a domain I'm familiar with. It's similar to the idealized wild west, where anything goes. As such pretty awful and, or wacky things can happen. A lot could go wrong.
Quite a few who are disillusioned with what they got, or other various reasons, go back to the 'safer' area.
>>298020
>So what sort of paganism
The problem is that it groups everything that is not dune religion related. That means it's a fuck ton of stuff.
In this thread and for this context I'm assuming it is more European, and white centric.
Ah can't forget alchemy the mental practices.

>>298087
>This I get, I still don't like us applying it to ourselves though.
It's more of an outside illusion than anything else, it's purpose is to deter the easily fooled by using words.
>Piss off your enemies let them call it what they will, makes perfect sense.
Aggravating those of whom are your foes is not always the wisest idea if you are vulnerable to retaliation, expect the result of your actions and those of others.
>>298783
>Personally i feel the threat of satanism is real even for pagans.
There are many terrors waging war upon the ways of our lives, 'Satanism' is only one of them, depending on what you objectify Satanism as, 'atheism' in many ways is more immoral and evil due to the resentments impressed within the new age cycle of illogical thoughts, they go against the paths toward themselves or the goals of others in favor of destruction and enslavement, they are under the influence of lies and deceitful ways of thinking while marching to their own doom because they have been manipulated into believing immoral choices are good for them, they are incapable of coming to their own conclusions for they are under the impressions stamped into them by external medias, (((they))) are ridding the world of age old traditions so that people will forget their cultural past and only live in the present to do what they are told to do like slaves.
>But for the tumblr grifters mark? I think its just intentionally fashionable grifting, much of the christian sects in america are really no different than this. the why is obvious
They are both as bad as each other for squabbling stupidly in unnecessary worships, they are devout by what pleases their imagination best rather than focusing on what is fundamentally right, they make themselves bastions of falseness by believing beliefs, they then claim supremacy over those who differ in opinion which leads to fighting over thoughts, they present themselves to be above each other despite standing on the same ground in reality, they cannot be taken seriously if they are doing the acts of a clown.
The plethora of all these churches exist so that people may follow them, these orders of religion have no power without any people to support them and the practitioners of these religions rely on the wisdom of others instead of the inner intuition inbuilt into themselves, the sections of Abrahamic religions are hearsay nonsense and should be taken at face value for being nothing more than words, there is no complete or absolute truth in Christianity and neither is there in Judaism or Islam, there is always good and bad advice, the gospels should be taken with a pinch of salt for being what they are which is the works of mere men, mistakes are often made and the supposed truths are partial as there is no truth truly nailed to being what is the correct answer, books shouldn't have to dictate your life and neither should people outside your family or racial ethnicity, they are stories that serve as examples and not as holy words to die for.
What I am getting at is these fabricated thoughts have lead us astray from ourselves and what is originally good, there is nothing to be gained from arguing about who or what is better than the other when it is subjectable to how one perceives it, it's a form of attempting to push personal ideas that lack sustainability, this is a never ending chess game that no one wins beyond a screen and these followers have made themselves pawns to be used as puppets for work, orthodox religion is a joke that went too far without any real purpose other than to serve whoever thinks "god" is.
>they have no male guidance and the baubels are spread to them so that they never grasp real paranormal research and herbal remedies.
Those without guiding help are lost and are living lies based upon emotions, modern society rejects the bitter reality of life in hopes they can escape from it by indulging in distractions to take their minds away from pressing matters beyond their realm of logistics, that and people like being entertained so that they can forget other things.
Not everyone has to follow another man's way of thinking and actions to be a good person, it comes naturally to those who are meant to be what they are and those who force it end up failing, recreating and repeating the same life of Jesus creates a mundane way of thinking and acting, every man is unique to do and think as they please, forcing this guy's words or ways onto someone is leading him people away from their true selves, Christ was a messenger who told people to be nice to each other, other people decided to act like this guy and deify a man for doing what he decided was right to do, he lived and died as a man of truthful goodness doing what he thought was right.
Anyways, have a pony and good luck on your path to wherever you fags wish to be.

Since anons seem to have an interest in discussing these kinds of matters I'm going to leave this here. Please ignore filename, that's just the (ironic) name of the image I picked up from 4/lit/. Furthermore I'm not expressing any stances for or against any of the philosophies listed or not listed on this flowchart by posting this, I'm just doing so in case anons want to get recs to read up on a couple different avenues when it comes to tackling existential questioning.

Satanists and Jews are literally the same thing, The bible refers to them as the synagogue of satan, One of the most prominent satanists, Alister crowley's main doctrine was "do what thou wilt" which effectively included thing like pedophilia, Homosexuality etc etc, In this regard moral subjectivity which is one of the main culprits of why European nations suffer such drastic woes as we are today. Another influential satanist anton lavey was literally a Jew. And he's the main influence behind modern satanism, Similar things with the Jesuits, Freemasonry, the Illuminati. All of these groups worked for Jewish interests or were Jews themselves. In fact it could be argued that all of these groups are just differing forms of Judaism. The problem is that people focus to closely on one of these when all of them are the exact same thing, And thus exposing all of them should be a priority.

I've also noticed an increase of this type of shilling as well, Trust yourself to make the right choice. Heck one of the most recent posts is promoting Just that. >>298860 Ask yourselves this question, Why is it that we are in this situation? Because the Jews are promoting evil? Well yes. But if >>298860 was correct in his assertion that people will make the right choice by believing in themselves we will never have an objective standard to hold people too. You can literally Justify anything with that type of logic. Why shouldn't you race mix? For an anti race mixing argument You would probably make the case that it destroys your entire legacy that your ancestors built up. But here's the thing the whole only you matter mentality would make it so that would completely fall flat on their face. Why? "Sure you destroy your fathers legacy but who cares if it's pleasurable for me" That's what goes on in the mind of these people, They care of nothing other than themselves. Thus by proxy Christianity is better than that ideology, because their is no standards that anyone can hold you too thus you're inherently untrustworthy.

>>299672
U got any citations for any of that, or is it just more of your usual "I think these things, therefore they're true"?

>>299673
You've already proven yourself to be a hypocrite. But here is my citations
Jesus calling Jews synagogue of satan
Rev 2:9, 3:9
Alister Crowleys book Do what thou will
http://tomegatherion.co.uk/mitp.pdf
Moral subjectivity being the main culprit of modern European decline
This one is simple if you look around you'll notice that people are constantly glued to their phone listening to talking heads. If people legitimately had a strong moral compass this wouldn't be happening because they'd test the words of these people according to that compass and see them to be false.

Anton LaVey jewish
Look at the name, More importantly

Illuminati, Freemasons and Jesuits being Jewish in nature
https://endchan.net/pol/res/76630.html
Mainly freemasons but the other two groups are extremely similar in design

>>299677
>hypocrite
You're a liar, I've done no such thing.
>Magick in theory and practice
Very nice that you have a pdf. I however have a hard copy that I've spent over a decade studying. Just as one can garner false impressions by selectively interpreting and quoting passages of the bible, so it is with a work like Crowley's.
>Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law and here's the part you neglect but LOVE is the law, love under will.
What this means is that everything you do should be an expression of love, manifest by will. He further explains that without LOVE there IS no will, and will is the central theme to Magick. Ergo, Do as thou wilt is a statement intended to convey to the learner that they must learn Love, after which they can know will, from which they are to act from. This is not, nor ever was, a prescription to EVER engage in immorality, though it is understandable that an ignorant person would interpret it so, as has occurred since the book was first published.
Responsibility - to/for one's self AND to/for others - is at the core of everything Crowley espoused, and you do yourself a disservice in neglecting to suss that out in pursuit of confirmation bias.

>>299672
>Satanists and Jews are literally the same thing,
So are communists and Christians, the majority of atheistic "Satanists" are Jews without honor that indulge in the icons of everything evil for the sole sake of being wrong, Orthodox Satanists (including National Socialist Satanists) are logically superior in all philosophical and moral regards, I would argue 'true' Satanism is better than what modern churches preach, but that's entirely subjective to personal beliefs and conclusions.
>The bible refers to them as the synagogue of satan.
It is their nature to be that way.
>One of the most prominent satanists, Alister crowley's main doctrine was "do what thou wilt" which effectively included thing like pedophilia, Homosexuality etc etc,
Thelema is centered around enjoying the pleasures of life, based mainly on the Greeks and Egyptians (along with a couple others) views of morality, the man himself is but that, a man, he did what suited his interests best and got out of the trap of mundaneness while plunging into a pit of utter degeneracy, which was solely his choice to do, he was a high ranking freemason which has several other connotations surrounding the objectivity of beastliness and disgrace, he was reared in a restrictive Christian household and eventually rebelled against their order of conduct that over time snowballed into hatred.
>In this regard moral subjectivity which is one of the main culprits of why European nations suffer such drastic woes as we are today.
There are multiple guilty groups who are at fault for our tribes subversions, the power of evil is strong and it will always be here in our lands.
>Another influential satanist anton lavey was literally a Jew.
He didn't believe in Satanael, effectively he was another atheistic Jew that used the terms inappropriately as a simple label.
>And he's the main influence behind modern satanism, Similar things with the Jesuits, Freemasonry, the Illuminati.
Compare atheism with modern "Satanism" and there are lots of similarities, both reject the existence of God and see pleasures as feelings, they are all misconstrued and twisted identically, by Jews of course.
>All of these groups worked for Jewish interests or were Jews themselves.
Yes, they are all part of the clique.
>In fact it could be argued that all of these groups are just differing forms of Judaism.
Same could be said for Christianity.
>The problem is that people focus to closely on one of these when all of them are the exact same thing, And thus exposing all of them should be a priority.
They are undoubtedly and inherently evil, there is a clear distinction between the groups yet they are working toward the same goal, the subversion of our old and traditional ways of life.
>I've also noticed an increase of this type of shilling as well, Trust yourself to make the right choice. Heck one of the most recent posts is promoting Just that.
People are responsible for their actions unless they are mentally incapable of doing so, everyone knows right from wrong if they spend time pondering their decisions, if you can't trust yourself then who can you? Don't put too much faith in unstable ideas.
>Ask yourselves this question, Why is it that we are in this situation? Because the Jews are promoting evil? Well yes.
You just answered your own question.
>But if >faggot was correct in his assertion that people will make the right choice by believing in themselves we will never have an objective standard to hold people too.
And what benefit is there to have from being forced into a strict code foreign and detrimental to us? The bible was brought and forced onto the world by people who had no respect for older traditions that predate that book. Some humans are not knowledgeable of their actions while others are fully aware, the wiser are more likely to act on their own accord compared to the dog way of life, think before you do something stupid.
>You can literally Justify anything with that type of logic.
How so? I never advocated for justifying illogical ideas that promote self destruction.
>Why shouldn't you race mix?
Not because you shouldn't or it's wrong, it creates inferior mongrel breeds with lower intelligence and is detrimental to cultural society, the mongoloid is from separate backgrounds and belongs in neither of them due to being an abomination.
>For an anti race mixing argument You would probably make the case that it destroys your entire legacy that your ancestors built up.
You're making an assumption of my beliefs.
>But here's the thing the whole only you matter mentality would make it so that would completely fall flat on their face.
Selfishness is necessary for self preservation, to be so generous to the foreign and unkind is totally idiotic, I have no debts to pay those who don't belong to my lineage, there is no reason to and it is pointless.
>Why? "Sure you destroy your fathers legacy but who cares if it's pleasurable for me" That's what goes on in the mind of these people,
That's assuming you understand what a family legacy is.
>They care of nothing other than themselves.
There is nothing which to be entitled to what is disruptive to ones wellbeing, the ego is chaotic and without care becomes independent to it's own code so it requires reasoning.
>Thus by proxy Christianity is better than that ideology, because their is no standards that anyone can hold you too thus you're inherently untrustworthy.
Christianity is slightly better than "Satanism", they are both mind numbing, Christian honor is false and untrue compared to the ancient, atheism is lying to yourself and denying your existence is meaningful.

Have you ever noticed that if every "principled" argument against Christianity came from actual principles, the one making the argument would have "bitch about Christianity" as his 5000th priority after criticizing every other religion on the planet inferior to Christianity?

Then there are arguments that rely on subjectivity and ego like "Christianity is bad for saying you should not be a lusty maniac. Lust and sex feels gooooood, man! Instead of having hard limits on what's socially acceptable we should either move those limits to where I want them to be and no further or abandon them completely and then hope everyone's views on how much is too much matches mine despite the lack of a commonly agreed upon limit based on religious teachings."
fuck those arguments also.

the only valid criticism of christianity is that it doesn't do enough to protect christians around the world from evil bastards.

>>299694
Which christianity are you talking about, per say?

>>299692
>I would argue 'true' Satanism is better than what modern churches preach
knowingly serving evil is much worse than believing the lie

>>299698
No idea, I'm new to this stuff. I don't know if I'm some special category like Alolan Christian or not.

>>299733
>knowingly serving evil is much worse than believing the lie
Devotion to permanent rebellion is opposing against the forces of righteousness and good, the dark and dirty walks of life exist alongside illogical lies, the ideologies are oblivious to their moral inferiority except one does it out of spite for deliberate destruction. Whether willingly or pressured into being a servitor, it is always a slaves work and is a single sided pact that benefits one more than the other, these are prompts to incite infighting within condemnation of pointless hate, they are the trapped double sides of the coin painted with narrow views in plain black and white. The "Christian" is domestic and the "Satanist" is animalistic, these are traps to put you in allegiance to a higher group order through confusion, to pit people to fight for aristocratic entertainment. The modern men are lost and have been mislead by the falseness of propagandized manipulation, they are afraid of exploring their thoughts or accepting themselves, they pledge oaths to another man's thoughted ideas. The Bible is a fable, it promotes equality and twists words, it has been used as a tool of psychological tyranny for a millennia. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28
Becoming a slave of "Satan" (Samael, Amalek) is the 'Left' hand path of becoming a personal deity, another variant is to be a servant of "God" (Jehovah, Yahweh) which is the other side of the coin or the 'Right' hand path.
As a side note to a very important person. Thelema is bullshit, you're a joke for taking clown Crowley seriously, The Book of the Law is an Egyptian fanfiction by a faggot freemason, you are no better than a monk studying the Bible for a decade. That's the punchline, make your own gay grimoire, if you haven't already.

>>299777
>The Bible is a fable, it promotes equality and twists words, it has been used as a tool of psychological tyranny for a millennia.

#1 The bible is the most well documented text in all of antiquity. to say the bible cannot be trusted, then nothing in antiquity can be proved.
end your hatred of Christ and serve him. atheist delusions and become christian
#2 the tower of Babylon is completely about NOT mixing the nations up and the nations should be separate and that mixing the nations is itself satanic. the message of that verse is to say anyone can become christian, but it doesn't say anyone can become Roman. to say the bible is open-borders is a lie.
#3 people have always lied and twisted words for money and power, but that doesn't mean what they are lying about is false.

>The "Christian" is domestic and the "Satanist" is animalistic, these are traps to put you in allegiance to a higher group order through confusion, to pit people to fight for aristocratic entertainment.
in service of what? ALL MEN are slaves, the question is to who. there is no ubermench loyal to nothing, we are are all servants to someone or something (pleasures or passions). this includes the elites. there is no third way, there is good and evil, and the elites serve evil. They hate Christianity, they've always wanted to completely destroy it, and have been attacking it endlessly since they got into power. to say they will ever meaningfully help their greatest enemy is just wrong.

>The modern men are lost and have been mislead by the falseness of propagandized manipulation, they are afraid of exploring their thoughts or accepting themselves
that is a excellent description of how Atheism was very forcefully pushed to be the replacement to Christianity, and quickly broke down after people started questioning it slightly.
Christianity only became what it was by zealous men exploring the ideas of Christianity to discover profound understandings on the nature of the world. How did Christian theology evolve from 200AD to 1200AD, people asked questions and made conclusions. but you are right to say men have become lost when they stopped following the truth of Christianity and have been blinded by a wide variety of lies like like atheism or paganism.

>>299785
#1: [CITATIONS FUCKING NEEDED.] The kike babble is filled with outlandishly rewritten pseudo-history, so prove otherwise, cuck.

>>299785
>end your hatred of Christ and serve him. atheist delusions and become christian
I would gladly burn at the stake than be baptized.
Your efforts are in vain, trying to coax me into this will get you nowhere.
It's wiser to bother you no longer for there is nothing to be gained now, I assure you that this has been a grand performance at manipulation for my own amusement and you are just another victim of my deranged humor.

>>299822
here is a citation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rml5Cif01g4
https://invidio.us/watch?v=rml5Cif01g4

>>299777
Pardon the pretension
Oh, I already have. But, I am as abject about lies of Crowley and Thelema as I am about the Bible. All have a measure of wisdom. There is no end of one's responsibility, and that is foremost to truth no matter how unpleasant. Part of that is forgiving one's 'foes' and learning what is to be learned, and another part is refusing lies no matter the source. It's a delicate balance, as I'm sure you're aware
nice digits btw

>>299689
>Your a liar, I've done no such thing
You're right, I thought you were someone else.

Jesus Christ.

The CDC will not protect you from viruses.

The EPA will not stop pollution.

The FAA will not prevent airplanes from crashing.

The SEC will not stop the stock market from collapsing.

The Gestapo will not keep you safe.

Wake up.

Governments kill people.