/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>279072
no

>>279075
equestria has not benefited from free tr-

>>279074
>>279076
KYS.

>>279077
why do you hate the global poor?

Shit bait, you dumb faggot. Without a culturally and racially homogeneous nation, Equestria is fucked by outsiders who have been hostile to its denizens for thousands of years. There's a reason why people hated the last couple seasons; the writers forced their globohomo multiculti faggotry into the show without showing any of the repercussions.

Now head back to /r9k/ where you belong.

Equestria's GDP has gone up substantially since opening up trade actually

>>279092
So this, and checking those id d's

Not gonna lie, I'm getting a kek out of how hard you are trying, but I have to say this is extreme bait. Also why wouldn't you want Equestria to stay a racially pure country? Can't have amazing horse pussy without the ponies, am I right?

>>279094
Who said anything about no ponies?

>>279097
If more species move in, that lowers the total population that is made up of ponies. Those non ponies then take the jobs and housing of present and future ponies, leading to a decline in the native population. Thus this would mean less horse pussy, and more rotting yak snatch

Also if you are going to have pre prepared "may-mays" to "own" all those evil Nazis on /mlpol/ and show your screen caps to all the discord trannies, at least post them in order.

>>279101
whoa who said anything about nazis? i was talking about pony nationalists

>>279101
>and show your screen caps to all the discord trannies
I think OP isn't part of the trannies, but a sinister faction proving this board by trying to get reactions, comments, and making questions with proper chan's code.

>>279104
It might.

>>279058
>Haha, the show did this thing that you hate, you're totally owned!
We would be if the show's ratings hadn't plummeted off a cliff when all this politically correct shit was forced into it. As it is, it's just more proof that your stance just doesn't sell and people preferred the show when it was about ponies.

>>279111
i oppose ownership of anyone, including collective ownership

>>279114
Hand over your stuff sonny. Make it fast and easy.

>>279101
Also, I'd like to correct a falsehood: There are more ponies in Equestria since it's opened its borders than any point in history

>>279104
Thanks for the warning friend.
>>279058 (FAG)
You have failed to establish the the nationalism of other cultures, communities, and nations.
Ponies, and everyone, and everycreature has their home. Precisely because of differences and the unique aspects reflect into a perfect aura that makes the entirety of the world worth living. On every level big or small. Mundane or bizarre. The contrasts and the harmonizing effects.
That's the problem with what you and your ilk propose. You have no will to live. Not even in a place devoid of the will to live. That's not enough.
To stand at the very top by your merits means to drag everything far below life, or even the means of survival. Crushing the spirit, the goodwill, the vitality of all creatures. To remove everything from everyone. Then you will be left at the massless faceless golems.
Machinery, simple cogs, the enslaved.
That isn't what good beings do. Righteous beings don't harm their family. Moral beings don't bring eternal woe upon their neighbor. Living creatures make mistakes, learn, and grow.
Awesome ponies, creatures, beings, and even people solve problems. When evil knocks demanding everything in return for a fate worse than death for generations to come living beings will fix that.
One way or another. Friendship always prevails. With or without the mewlings of evil.
>>279114
>i oppose ownership of anyone
I'm sure you do. You even oppose self ownership. You don't own your body, or your mind, or anything else.
Isn't that right.
You don't even own the right to live.

>>279117
>To stand at the very top by your merits means to drag everything far below life, or even the means of survival. Crushing the spirit, the goodwill, the vitality of all creatures. To remove everything from everyone. Then you will be left at the massless faceless golems.
>Machinery, simple cogs, the enslaved.

When did I imply any of this? Do you know what I think better than I do?

>>279119
Then explain exactly what you mean.

>>279120
Don't bother arguing. He is a shitlib. He doesn't believe in intellectual honesty.

>>279120
this is the future I want:
>>279074
plus more trains and more residential zoning

Cute thread. Like that you put effort into making these pics though I would prefer pics with a more pro-pony stand point.

The truth is that trbilist is a code word for anti-pony. Since all creatures belong to a tribe and what counts as tribilistic (offensive) is subjective, the judgement will always faour the tribe in power (the griffins).
The truth of the matter is that there are inate loyalties in all creatures to their tribes. But I feel like I'm getting away from the main point....

The main point is that pony birthrates are in decline. Stallions don't take care of te foals anymore and a large portion of the pony population is of old age. This isn't something that I and my consipracy mares are saying either, this is an established fact that is reiterated in the mainstream media from time to time but they use it as an arguement for why we need yaks to replace our population because the economy will collapse without muh demography.

But there it is, the explicit purpose is to replace us. They bring in yaks that that have a large number of foals or whatever, than the average pony family have. This will undeniably lead to ponies becoming a minority in Equestria and from there ponies will slowly cease to be. Horsepussy genocide. Q.E.D.

>>279066
Only Pegasi can manipulate the clouds. No other race can contribute to the productiveness of Cloudsdale. They would be vagrants in a place they can never belong and blame it on the creators of that place. Thank you for using the show to explain why your own position is such a terrible one both in universe and in the real world.

>>279122
Are you absolutely sure that's your final position?

>>279125
well, ideally Equestria would intermingle and produce an ethnically homogeneous group of creatures rather than the tribes we currently have

>>279126
Anything else?

>>279127
that's the long and short of it

>>279122
>Common market
>Open trade
>Open borders
We have all three of those already, unless what you mean by open borders is for them to not even exist. Nationalism can coexist with all three of those tenets, and without draining other nations of their populace to come live in a melting pot. The american experiment, that is to say, the great melting pot of the world is the worst thing to have ever happened to humanity, its continued existence is actively destroying the concept of disparate peoples and nations.

The world was diverse on a global level for centuries, but that's not enough for you people is it, it needs to be forced into ever smaller scales until no one exists. No uniqueness, no difference, just a soulless consistent morass of sameness. I wonder if we've seen that touted as bad in the show before.

>>279129
the problem with starlight was the central planning and lack of markets, pony-ness is a spook

>>279130
Not the brainwashing and stripping of what made the ponies themselves or anything.

>>279131
creatures won't lose their individuality, only tribes will be dissolved in the glorious future

>>279123
You can say ponies will become a minority but there still will be more ponies than have ever existed in Equestria, no ponies are going away

>>279130
>>279132
>>279133
>You can say ponies will become a minority but there still will be more ponies than have ever existed in Equestria, no ponies are going away
>You can say zebras will become a minority but there still will be more zebras than have ever existed in Equestria, no zebras are going away
>You can say dragons will become a minority but there still will be more dragons than have ever existed in Equestria, no dragons are going away
>You can say changelings will become a minority but there still will be more changelings than have ever existed in Equestria, no changelings are going away
>creatures won't lose their individuality, only tribes will be dissolved in the glorious future
Are you really sure that's your stance?

>>279134
Not in the immediate future, but in the optimal future, there will be no more ponies, zebras, griffons, or yaks, just creatures

>>279122
>My dream is a common market,
<a place where nothing is done and no value created
>with open trade
<to dilute any spark of originality
>powering growth
<for the meat suits to be used for my dream
>opportunity for every person in the hemisphere
<obey or cease to be.
>>279135
>Not in the immediate future, but in the optimal future, there will be no more ponies, zebras, griffons, or yaks, just creatures
>there will be no more ponies, zebras, griffons, or yaks, just creatures
<you can't have any differences cause I said so
How is that good?
>ideally Equestria would intermingle and produce an ethnically homogeneous group of creatures
You could do that, but why?
>creatures won't lose their individuality, only tribes will be dissolved in the glorious future
So no individual will be allowed to have a tribe?
>i oppose ownership of anyone, including collective ownership
>>279097
>Who said anything about no ponies?
>>279135
>there will be no more ponies,
Is this what you're saying?

>there will be no more ponies, zebras, griffons, or yaks, just creatures.
You intend to destroy everything that these species have that they can be prideful of, do you wish to be the spearhead of decay and cultural destruction? Or are you fully okay with the fact that pony's will have nothing to call their own or that they can be personally proud of? What is your stance on pony Führer Aryanne Hoofler and her glorious ways of National Herdism?

>>279138

If you want to really know what my ideal Equestria (and the rest of the world) would be: Cultural, physical, and religious tribes which can serve as points of conflict and division by their very existence will be smoothed out. There will eventually be no ponies, not because ponies are conquered by raping yaks, but because all creatures will come together in a global culture. As we go forward, even gender and sex will be abolished. All will be united under a common flag and work in harmony, for there will be no more tribe but the global tribe.

>>279140

Creatures will have lots to be proud of: the moments they live in their own life, the world they share with everyone else, the friends they make. Aryanne Hoofler was a madmare considered bad optics even by modern day pony nationalists.

>>279144
>Cultural, physical, and religious tribes which can serve as points of conflict and division by their very existence will be smoothed out.
Smoothed out?
>even gender and sex will be abolished.
How so?
>for there will be no more tribe but the global tribe.
But, that is a point of division. Right?
>all creatures will come together in a global culture
Why would they? All they have is themselves.

>>279146
>Smoothed out?
People will still be able to cite past culture and religion in an aesthetic sense, but otherwise they will no longer be taught to have any inherent allegiance to anything other than the world
>How so?
For gender, any gendered expectations on how one should act will be abolished. For sex, that would be harder, but hopefully some sort of technology would emerge
> But, that is a point of division. Right?
The global tribe is by definition inclusive rather than exclusive
> Why would they? All they have is themselves.
The global culture would rally around truths rather than arbitrary markers: ethics, rather than religion and tradition.

I don’t claim to have a grand plan for how to achieve this, but hopefully the melting pot of Equestria will result in a homogenous culture that will spread outwards and pave the way for some sort of world federation.

>>279144
>the moments they live in their own life, the world they share with everyone else, the friends they make.
For some pony's this is not what they consider things to be what lights that burning pride, not everypony bases their life around themselves or cares only about social status, these are meaningless to some, so i suspect (You) are only interested in selfish desires instead of freedom for everypony.
>Aryanne Hoofler was a madmare considered bad optics even by modern day pony nationalists.
That is if you read what actual pony's lives were like under her rule and if you ignore the lies that were told to you in School perpetrated by the Griffons, the pony's had a lot better lives than they had in the Haymar republic. (Weimar)

>>279147
With everything you've posted its doomed for failure from the very beginning.
Tell me what do you actually really want for yourself, and the future. Is it peace? Is it love? Is it war? Is it bloodshed? Tell me.
>>279119
>Do you know what I think better than I do?
Looking at every post you've made...
Yeah
>>279117
Seriously extrapolating the consequences would cause total ruin. I would pray for Discord or Harmony to run rampant than the sterile death globe. At least they have some common interests with actually living.
>>279144
>Aryanne Hoofler was a madmare
>audio file related

>>279148
>For some pony's this is not what they consider things to be what lights that burning pride, not everypony bases their life around themselves or cares only about social status, these are meaningless to some, so i suspect (You) are only interested in selfish desires instead of freedom for everypony.
Considering you’re brushing over the genocide of millions of innocent griffons, I wonder who’s the real sociopath

>>279151
>Considering you’re brushing over the genocide of millions of innocent griffons, I wonder who’s the real sociopath.
Those are fabricated lies by the griffons, there's no way a gas chamber had a wooden door or that Zyklon B was used for anything than the extermination of 6 trillion lice, griffons are only good for lying anyways, it's not like they do any proper work like the pony's do,

>>279133
>no ponies are going away
Wtf, no. That's what decline means.
Yes, the population of ponies is greater than it has ever been but why is that? It's because after the war with New Mareland, which Equestria won the boomerpony generation boomed. Now that population is old and ready to die. That's what decline means. These boomers make up a large portion of or population and when they die, we decline rapidly in population because we give birth to less foals these days.

This is also excluding the many other factors about how non-ponies take over areas and forces ponies out, in so called non-go zones and intermixing and such that that will cause this decline to increase.
If this trend doesn't change, we will become a minority and then a cease to be, again. Like, I don't get how this is hard to get.

It is also ironic that these non-ponies, like zebras that are way more in numbers than ponies need to settle in Equestria when they have their own continent.

Lol, also the whole individualism is made by the powers because a collective is harder to rule over than an indivdual, that's why this thing is push for. Individuals are easily ruled by the whip and carrot while somepony who has the belief that there's an afterlife and therefore doesn't need to be greedy with their precious time and someone who does feel like they are part of a collective and has meaningul connections to fight for, can rebell and highly likely to do so too.

That's why communism is such a silly charade of sycophants. How hard would it really be to bribe a communist leader if you were part of the capital? I say not hard at all. They believe in no morality nor do they really feel any comradriee with anyone because who would that be in such a melting pot, they will sell their friends out at the tip of a hat.

>>279151
>innocent griffons
>Innocent
>Why emphasis that, isn't that obvious? You couldn't say that with a straight face could'ya?
Ah, I see /Ourmare/ LARPing

>>279152
>Don’t worry, in the global order there won’t be any culturecels to complain
Yeah, if it even happens you'll be tossed aside and forgotten in an unmarked grave.
Have you heard the music of her great words in brief yet?
>>279121
It's so fun though. See I got an honors in music theory for musical practice.
To my tune and command, the instrument of the shitlib (extra faggotry variant) jumps, yells, types, and raves. It's not hard to learn, nor very exciting.
It's the same song and dance every time.
A neat parlor trick for lurkers or newfags.
Next up is gorillions.
>>279151
Gorillions of griffons.
They never told you that the giffons owned and had total control over haymar republic.
Nor did they tell you they had antifa. Nor did they tell you it's the same flag. Nor did they tell you they cause mayhem, looting, and rioting, way back when. They never told you it was the communist branch for public violence.
They never told you that griffons have control of banks, and the media since before that occurred. They could have paid for each and every griffon there to be taken away with a carriage.
They never told you that they kill everyone who helped them establish their rule.
They don't teach about the gulags that killed more sentient beings. Now, guess who has full control of the education.

>>279155
>>279154
>>279153
Yes, roughly 6 million griffons died. It’s just a fact, sorry to break it to you. Read Lying About Aryanne by Richmare Evans

>>279152
Anonymous14 minutes agofc3091cNo.279152
>>279150

Don’t worry, in the global order there won’t be any culturecels to complain
>culturecels
>>279156
>Yes, roughly 6 million griffons died. It’s just a fact, sorry to break it to you. Read Lying About Aryanne by Richmare Evans
Despite the fact their numbers grew at the same rate it would have normally.
Despite they have been removed over 300 times thoughout history. It's every other creature's fault?
You sure that's what your going to stand with?
Remember what you've said.
>>279151
>Considering you’re brushing over the genocide of millions of innocent griffons, I wonder who’s the real sociopath
>>279135
>there will be no more ponies, zebras, griffons, or yaks
>there will be no more griffons,
Oy vey, that sounds rather bad goy. Are you sure your not secretly harboring national herdism?

>>279156
How? You refuse to listen to the evidence in front of you claiming that you have been lied to.
Where are the burial sites for all the ashes? Did they manage to hide all that ash from 6 million griffon's or is it less than that number?
Why are there MORE griffon's after the war than before it?
Will you still refuse to face the facts and not answer the questions or will you accept it is all JUST lies? (You) already ignored all the questions and deflected with what you have been incorrectly told.

>>279157
No, because the blending together of all creatures is not the same as the killing of them all. But i’m sure the nuance is lost on national herdists

>>279158
The little NPC bot has reached its limit for what it's been programmed to do. Watch.
>>279159
>What is extinction for dummies?

So your going to remove the griffon religions.
The griffon holy sites.
The griffon books.
That's okay, because for reasons every creature will have global thingy.
For no particular reason global thingy is the best option.
Global thingy can't be explained with reasons.
>look at this mystery creatue explain
Global thingy only needs Global thingy approved history.

>>279159
This thread is great and really funny my mah mare. So I'm I to believe that you are a stallion in mare's body? Have you ever been with another mare, rwar?! Call me.

>>279161
The only thing unusual about me is that i’m not a pony, in all other respects I’m “normal”

>>279164
Actually I’m a changeling, not a zebra, yak, or griffon

>>279166
I have to go now but trans mares and stallions exist

>>279162
>The only thing unusual about me is that i’m not a pony, in all other respects I’m “normal”
>"normal"
Well would look at that.
>pic related.
>“”""
Don't see it?
>“"”"
>“ ”
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It's different.
>>279165
>Actually I’m a changeling, not a zebra, yak, or griffon
Post video with timestamp.
>>279167
Stop butchering ponies then ey?

>>279166
At least it won't produce offspring

>>279165
Oooh, a bug. How about becoming the sub to my dom? After I'm done with you, you will be able to live an entire year of the love from your throbbing heartpupils in your eyes. I love to squash bugs, if you know what I'm sayin. *Smask lips*
>pic is me with my puppy
>>279166
Yeah, hehe. That's prettyfunny.

>>279170
I hate to break this to you but i’m not a female, i’m a male and not even a special one

>>279171
>I hate to break this to you but i’m not a female, i’m a male and not even a special one
So your a well and true balls and ass faggot then?

>>279172
im a cis het, neurotypical, able bodied straight male. hope that helps

>>279173
>I'm a cis het, neurotypical, able bodied straight male.
Ah i get it (You) are a zigger loving cuck.

>>279174
If it helps you, you can think that

>>279173
>>279171
>straight male
>Bug stallion
>I'm tellin you the trutf, mare!
Oh, well. It's fine. It is hard sometimes to be honest with oneself. Baby steps.

>>279176
Also, I feel sad for you since I don't do peggin and anal stuff and you aren't a bug mare, this is sadly the end of our relationship.

Also, why is a changling pushing for diversity in equestria anyway?

>>279177
It has to do more with myself and less with me being a changeling

>>279178
Have you considered that your ancestors didn't build our Equestrian civilization and therefore you didn't inherit the right ot influence its future? Like, if I build a house and my son enherit it, then you as a guest in that house can't make decisions over the household.

>>279165
And so why should a changeling have any say in Equestrian laws and culture? If what you are saying is so true and the best for Equestria, why not try it at the changeling hives first? You bring all the ponies, zebras, dragons, griffons and yaks into your lands first and make your perfect society there for everyone else to see. Also concerning your global homogeneous society, does that mean you would merge all the other countries into Equestria to make the whole world one nation? What if a country doesn't wish to be a part of your global society, would you make them join by force? I imagine you would make exceptions for the glorious land of Griffonstone

I wish the changelings hadn't become the faggots they are now under Thorax's rule. At least under Chrysalis they had their own community and were super cuddle worthy, holes and all

But didn’t Chancellor Neighsay have no say over anything but their education system?

>>279180
If you want to really know, anyone can move wherever they want right now, it’s just that Equestria is the place with the most opportunity. The global culture is more of a dream, the actual goal right now is purely economic.

But so long as we’re pipe dreaming, you could always impose restrictions via multilateral trade agreements to move countries in certain directions (i.e. require that one stop laws seen as socially unjust). The more interconnected we become, hopefully the more similar we become. But again there’s no point in pretending that such a point is just around the corner

>>279179

I’m not sure I even see why this principle is applicable to broad policy, if it doesn’t economically hurt Equestria, then let us work here.

MEMEM made by a CENTRIST cuck pony that loves his mare fucked by ziggers.

Also, SOLAR empire would never had a sub-Pony as their ruler and never will.

it´s over lefty "bronies" . keep dreaming.

https://streamable.com/b890rn

>>279151

YES

Equestria will be truly multicultural cuck nation when a griffon gets a sun cutiemark and grow a horn to control the sun.

that means never. Get over it you lefties and centrists

this thread is hotter than Hoofschwitz ovens

OP with red hair:

>>279198
The economy is subordinate to the nation. We aren't here to masturbate over the economy, rather the economy is here to facilitate our needs and be configured in a manner that gives advantage to our nation's/class's reproductive strategy. If we're giving our future away, then that defeats the entire purpose.

>>279205
The economy is subordinate to the people inside the nation, not the “nation”

>>279058

i didnt expect to ever see a leftymlpol thread here. thought thatvcommunity was dead and gone. this will also probably be the last one too.

special shoutout to op for high effort trolling.

>>279207

the most hilarious is lefties as they fail everytime now try to coopt the centrist ways. LOL

Thank you for the distinction. I meant nation in the outdated sense of 'ethnicity' or the like.

>>279207
>>279208
Centrist queen twilight is not a lefty, she's a enlightened shitlib and so am I
>>279209
Again I don't see why Equestria should make it its mission to kick out everyone just to keep ponies from having kids with zebras, when everyone benefits from it economically. It's a win win

>>279211

i never said Twilight is a lefty. i said Lefties are trying to be seen as centrists to not be seen as losers and still fail. like centrists

>>279211

between being fucked by a zigger and not you choose to be penetrated half way to not be seen as acomplete lefty cuck.

tipicall centrists..

>>279217
are you implying that i'm some sort of crypto-stalliongrad supporter?
>>279218
you creatures have talked more about zebrican-equestrians than I have. I don't even know where this is coming from

>>279058
>7. No "BTFO" threads.
>Low quality information presented as a final blow argument, or anything that presents a single piece of flimsy evidence as the proof that unravels someone else's entire world view
1. "How will X ever recover" is just a variation of "X btfo".
2. You are simply a political shill, and you are not even trying to hide it. What you are trying to lie about is your position being "centrism". First of all, there is no such thing as "centrism", second, going by the shit you have said so far, it is obvious you are simply a poorly masked leftist. Please commit honorary sudoku at your earliest convenience.

>>279211
It's not win-win like there's two sides to this. The migrants win because Equestria is an improvement, as well as a place for expansion. The business firms win because an increase in labor will lower its value. The rich and powerful will win because ponies will have less political power and cultural integrity to keep them in check. Landlords and residential developers win, because higher demand for shelter will increase and so will its price.

Here's a rarely understood secret. Pony society used to be as shit as any other. It had a few well-off ponies in the upper class, it had a few freeponies and specialists in the middle, and the vast majority at the bottom were subservient, dependent serfs who had their lives managed by their betters (sadly, i'm not saying that ironically). The great cold period that preceded the founding of Equestria changed this simple arrangement. The serfs may had been prolific in offspring, and they remained so, but their survival rate had gone below-replacement. Meanwhile, better-off ponies would have two or more offspring who would survive long enough to receive an inheritance. When all was said and done, the ponies at the bottom were decimated by exposure, starvation, and rampant disease, but those who survived were in an opportune position. On the other hand, the higher-born ponies were thence great in numbers, but wealth and power are scarce comodities. So the heirs of the upper class went to expand the middle class, making their own wealth. The remaining upper class may have survived the best, but the societal pyramid was in disarray. Their slave labor was getting wise to their new negotiating power (though stupid much of them remained), and the common ponies were now greatly descended from free-bred ponies like themselves and didn't take to being ruled over. A new concensus was made, and here we are in a relatively free society, and not everypony is happy about it.

What must be understood is that this happened here and it happened to us. It didn't happen to the other species and races and come out with the same result. If others were to immigrate in great numbers—whether high-born or low-born; whether serf or savage, or doctor or engineer—they will not maintain our free order. You will take something that we have made through an accidental genetic revolution, and smother it, and a society such as ours will probably never come again. I want to live in the free society that i have inherited, and i want to preserve it—as it preserves us—for future free ponies.

>>279222
That's one story about the world, but I've never seen evidence that the non ponies coming over are either hurting "social cohesion" or compromising "free society," or that they suppress wages in a meaningful manner. Is the suggestion here that other ponies fundamentally lack the ability to work in a democracy? I have a very hard time believing that
>>279221
Could you point to a mask off moment where I revealed that I'm really a leftist?

>>279207
Yes, it works well. This sort of conflict seeking thread can work to faciliate debate on the issue even if it is a something that most of the board agrees on, that's just more the reason for why its works well to engage the community.
>>279206
>People
Creatures. Don't be offensive!

Well, every time ponies have gotten to choose, they have choosen segregation. Like, there was a populare vote about immigration in the state that I live, and the ponies vote against more yaks so the ponies in charge went ahead and ignored it.

You post a lot of images of crying ponies "overreacting" to the importation of other creatures to their states but have you ever considered that if a state or something as small as a munciplality doesn't want to have noponies in their neighberhood, then through the principle of majority, which you clearly support, they shouldn't need to.
Of course, you will say they do follow this statewise and therefore we hace our current situation, but again this is to ingore the reality of the corrupt parliment and media and the clear agenda which will never fail to claim to care about this primcple when it works in their favour, when it is opportune to their purposes, and ignore it by invalidating it through some fancy lawyering parapragh-riddin, "You didn't read the fine-print ponyim!" as proven by my example of a populare vote being discaraded even thought it was clear as day what the results were.

It is also, intresting that you refer to economics as the main importance to pony wellbeing instead of the very act of being part of a national community being inate in everycreatues' need for them to feel like they live a fulfiling life, which they cannot in alienation.

And when we are at the idea that happiness cannot be measured through economics, it's also important to note that immigration is costworthy and does not have any return value either. The lesser creatures, like zebras, live parasitically on the economic buffer that is the culmination of our race and culture's superiority in a manner that is known as wellfare. Remember the meme with Nure Redheart standing next to Zecora and there is this huge text bubble comming out of her mouth which reads, "That shit is already free, zigger!"

There's also something to be said about the essence of inferiority. Zebras have never had a civalization ever throughout history even though they lhave lived on a resource heavy land.
Bringing in zebras will not benefit the economic side to our society. What i'm talking about isn't that they take from our soceity as in wellfare, social capital, and social security, but how they do not give enough. Anyone, who has ever played a strategy game before knows that you have to make a choice for the right units to buy with your limited resources. If you can buy more advanced and capable and versitile units, you do that. You do not buy the bad units because they don't do the job as well, which leads to an economic decline.

Bottomline, the only argument for ziggers existence is that it would be evil to remove them, the moral arguement. There's not benefit for the rest of us, economcally to bring them here.

>>279225
Firstly, each tribe of creature in Equestria has a unique history. By and large, yaks immigrating into my state benefit the economy undoubtedly, and they also don't hurt social cohesion. The zebras are in a worse place in my state than others, but that can be accounted for by socioeconomic factors and institutional discrimination.

With respect to Zebra civilizations, it should be understood that environmental factors are the reasons zebras ended up being colonized by Equestria rather than the other way around. And you're wrong when you say zebras don't benefit the economy; where I'm from, zebra immigrants are literally the most educated, hard working tribes of creatures, even more than ponies.

>>279224
It's not that you had a mask off moment, it's more that your mask is so shit that it covers only a quarter of your face. You don't have to reveal anything on purpose if you are so bad at hiding it in the first place.
Your talking points are:
>holocaust denial bad
>race mixing, open borders good
>nationalism bad
>one uniform global culture of mutts good
You couldn't be more obvious if you tried. KYS.

>>279231
that just makes me a shitlib not a leftist

>>279230
>they also don't hurt social cohesion
Ever read the book, "Party Pooped: The Untold Story," by Limestone Pie? It re-tells the story about how Pinkie's first encoutner with Yaks went and how Limestone has noticed how Pikkie has developed, over the years, a strong fear of Yaks and it ahas goen so far to be expressedin a stockholm syndrome.

>even more than ponies.
>"So ah did da math and it turns out Ah gotta work eighty hours per day."

>environmental factors
What? They couldn't reach the banans?

>even more than ponies
Yeah, right. You do realize that your dreamland isn't a state. But honestly, it is such a weird thing this idea. If it were the case, which it obviously isn't , then we ponies have an even more reason not to let zebras in because they would take over. You, like every other pro diversity, is anti-ponies in the end of the day. You are not concerned with other nationalistic movement, as the title ofthis threas is really just a consequnce of your mindset. Why not just say, "Nationalists in shambles," instead you wrote, "Pony nationalists in shambles."

The truth of the matter is that the creatures that enter Equestria does not share your ridculous ideas about egalitarism. They know fully and well which collective they belong to. Even if they are too dumb to understand why it is like this, most of them, they use it for their own gain but also to take over.

Again, there is no neutral party that could lead us into your future.
What is tribalism? Its a word for a thought crime that is ill-defeined for the purpose of the acussor. Its a rubber paragraph, it expands when convient and shrinks when its not.

That's how zebras have gained a noble status becuase what constitutes as tribalism has a clear disprapency and bias.

If a zebra does something tribalistic towards you, first off, who do you know since the term is undefined? Secondly, if you were to push for somekind of justice to be done, from getting an aology to a courtroom, other creatures will reject your claim with different grades of vitriol from none to extreme but you willl be rejected. The reason is that in that case creatures will start to rationalize why what this creature did to you was justified and well within the law and moral decency. "He only expressed an idea. You will have to dea lwith freedom of speech," they'll say but the funny thing is that you can see their hypocracy in that if you switch words from "zebra" to "pony" or vice versa in whatever statment they found completely reasonble, everycreature knows that's tribalistic in an instant.

However, if the oppsotie happens and you are accused of being tribalistic, it is really enough that somecreature says it for it to catch fire. The fact is that it is beneficial for individuals to virtue singal and that's why all of these sycophants do it, not only creatures that from their limited understanding of teh situation that have gotten from watching something by the sidelines judging you but also from cold-blooded careerists that will they you the sun orbit because of gravitational pull rather than magicfrom the princesses.

But it isn't only because there is a carrot dangling in front o creatures faces that they will mob for the lynching cause, they also afraid of standing up for somepony sicne that means you guilty by association. So even ponies that actualyl understands what is going on and sees the disprepancy will go into denail and rationalize why this isn't the case at all.

With this there are simply groupsthat abuses this for their own gain. This is afterall how racism started as a concept, griffins wanted to use social conformity and conensus to remove innate core pony values, so they made this death sin word that you cannot be, which alsotied in nicely with that cover up lie for the six million fried chickens never made.

But anyway, there really isn't a reason for me to support this since my biology wants me to live my life with birds of the same feather, meaning ponies and that's the desire that matter mostly to me. I don't give a shit if we would benefit economically from this, which again we of course don't, I just have desires needing to be fulfilled.

>>279074
This is a slanderous JIDF fabrication. Everybody knows that Twilight "Pull the Trigger on Every Zigger" Sparkle's greatest dream is a world without griffons.

>>279233

First of all, there is no reverse court discrimination against ponies where I'm from. It's the other way around (biased against zebras), and this discrimination manifests in other areas of criminal justice.

Second of all, yes "swapping zebra for pony" causes often are racist. Take, for example, a forum dedicated to zebra beauty, and a forum dedicated to pony beauty. Suppose ponybeauty were banned, and zebrabeauty wasn't banned. Obviously double standards, right? Well, no, because often times if you dig under the surface mere "pony and zebra swapped" causes are started by or appropriated by racists. This is a similar thing with "Pony Pride," "Straight Pride," "Stallion Pride;" all of these causes are usually hijacked by national herdists, even ones which aren't supposed to be about ethnicity. It's just like that "It's OK to be a pony" thing; everyone knew it was run by pony supremacists.

Third of all, I have no idea how to respond to the idea that racism was invented by Zebras, when racism was created to justify pony imperialism and the zebra slave trade.

>>279234

Twilight is a lib stay mad

>>279236
>Zebras,
griffons ^^

>>279232
What is this about you retards constantly trying to change labels around?
You are just parroting the same stuff the left keeps pushing in most countries, including the US. Thus, you are a leftist.
>nationalism bad
>globalism good
gives this away the most. You trying to be this slippery also calls into question whether you are just brainwashed or a straight up jew. The right wing libertarian position doesn't support anti-nationalist sentiment or globalism. Those necessitate left wing goals and politics. You are clearly just astroturfing here.
>4. No shill threads.
>Shills from 4chan would routinely try to use any doubts we had to get their foot in the door and argue their way between us, turning us against one another
No one with a brain is going to believe you don't have a lefty agenda with these posts.

>>279236
>Twilight is a lib stay mad
Do you even watch the show? That episode in season eight where she lynched the changeling while ranting about how Hitler did nothing wrong was too over-the-top even for me.

>>279236
Ohhhh, Ticky. You fucked up. I gotta ya!

>ses are started by or appropriated by racists.
Yeah, exactly what I stated in my post: You are now saying that through guilt by association something is bad

This is still deploying a double standard, btw. And also, I was also talking about statements that are negative towards ponies but wouldn't be said so uncontroversially if it was said about zebras instead.
Not that, "Its ok to be a pony," isn't true an therefore should be uncontroversial but isn't, because ponies have literally been fired from their jobs (like wtb!), and therefore it proves how sick the hypocracy is and how outspread it is.

This sort of justification that you provided, which is is based soley on that is bad because of association and not becase its actually wrong, is the kind of shit reasoning that is used of the ones in powers to cover their misdeeds and acts of anti-ponyism.

>>279240
Firstly, you can complain about guilty by association but pretty much anyone who says "It's OK to be a pony" is a pony supremacist, same with "Pony Pride" and "Straight Pride" and "Stallion Pride." It's not a fallacious thing to do when it's a pretty accurate measure for whether or not somebody is racist
Second, it's arguable that, because Zebrican Americans have a unique history in which their heritage to Zebrica was cut off and they had to create their own culture, it's meaningful to say that you have pride in being a Zebra. By contrast, there's no such thing as a "pony culture" in Equestria; whatever you can think of is more specifically tied to the heritage of subdivisions within the broad racial category of "pony." Nobody ever complains about Pegasus Pride, Earth Pony Pride, Unicorn Pride, because it makes sense. But "Pony Pride" only makes sense in opposition towards others.

>>279247
>But "Pony Pride" only makes sense in opposition towards others.
There's your mask off moment, by the way. All you had to do was not go there. You did anyway.
You bloody idiot.

>>279249
What did you think you just got "on record?"

>>279247
>No hooves
But when zebras commit most of the crime against other species they are ignored but when a pony does something back against them and then they are the ones in the spotlight, don't you get it? Are zebras really exempted from OUR laws just because of their racial history which we have to pay for some dumb fucking reason because of something that happened hundreds of years ago that we had no choice of changing.
Why should we be the ones who receive the ass end of this when griffons are the ones who conducted most of the zebra trade and are the ones who owned those zebras?

>>279251
>Louis Farrakhoove
It's not OK to spread anti-griffonic lies

I see everypony has been busy.
>>279198
>it’s just that Equestria is the place with the most opportunity.
Right. So let's take a quick look at history.
Why the fuck none of the other creatures created such a grand society?
In griffonstone it's a shithole.
The badlands with the amalgamation of beings under the storm king's rule should have been a super country with how diverse it is.
The hippogrif's have a magic orb to transform beings into other beings. They fled. Not become saboteurs, not alter their form into a monstrosity. They simply fled. The core of what they could do and the opportunities they had dashed.
The buffalo didn't cause massive innovations in magic or technology.
The changelings are leeches on society, for beings like you.
Zebras don't have a leader vastly independent one might say. Putting it in the best light possible. They haven't made wonders without an external hoof.
What have the yaks done?
Deer are isolationist, and that's not a bad thing. They have their society and they are content.
Dragons by and large are massive flying dicks. They could do so much good with the unique abilities they possess.
The Kirin... have abilities that could be amazing. Yet, they don't.

All these beings... they could do so much with their talents. They could change the world with what wisdom they have, and the knowledge they have accrued.
Except that isn't the case.
That isn't the fucking case, and why the hell is it like that?!
Ponies have stood as a beacon for all to see in the splendor of possibility.

There are so many different reasons why ponies have shaped Equestria into a superpower capable of dealing with ancient horrors, evildoers and criminals on a daily basis.
Princess Twilight Sparkle had to teach those creatures about friendship!
The underpinnings of society, culture, the great nation of Equestria. Harmony, love, and friendship. A community with neighbors, family, and friends.
Princess Celestia, Luna, Cadence, and Twilight have done incredible things. Yet, it is also made possible by the individual power of the common pony. Ponies that willingly help eachother, develop friendship, and encourage the unique talents and interests can form a cohesive adaptable whole.
Not every pony is a farmer, and not every pony is a princess. That's good.
The cutie mark has helped ponies do what they truly want in life, and it helps everyone else.

Will a blob of genderless creatures become vastly superior to any one of those races? No- well maybe a few of them. The point still remains, a creature so removed from the heritage, blood, culture, sexuality, any form of positive influence will likely succumb to the rampant monsters of the world.

In all of your posting you haven't explained why any of what you suggest is actually good. With reasoning, just an off hoof remark of 'is gud. i guess? that's what moishe says'
>>279252
>>Louis Farrakhoove
>It's not OK to spread anti-griffonic lies
>lies
I'm glad we have something in common.
Because >>279251 only speeks the truth.

>>279250
That was the most confusing misuse of tenses in a short English sentence I have ever read.

>>279252
>Some zigger
(You) are the one following lies, tell me what did i lie about or can you actually refute what i have posted? Will you now resort to calling me a liar?

>>279255
no scholar takes "The Secret Relationship between the zebras and the griffons" seriously. Griffons constituted a small amount of the trade and certainly did not own "most of the zebras." For example, the book claims that in Jamaneca Griffons dominated the trade, but in reality they owned less than 5% of the slaves.

How can someones brain be so jewed and communized?

>>279256
I was getting at that most griffon households in southern griffonstone owned zebras whereas only a minority of the pony population owned them, over half of the zigger ships had griffon names and the trade was good for money so you can bet your faggot ass that griffons were all over that shit.
So? If most of the zebra traders are griffons the ones getting the zebras and bringing them over here should be the ones responsible for all of the ziggers zigouts rather than the average pony whose great grandparents would never have seen any other creature other than those whose blood flows from proud times.
Do you think that griffons are nothing more than secretive serpent backstabbers that waddle around with lots of bits?
There are plenty other scrolls that detail the griffons horrific ways out there, but alas i bet you consider them nothing more than old pony tales.
>>279253
Thanks pony pal, i try spreading the knowledge of ancient pony tomes whenever i can.

>>279247
Oh, colt.

>but pretty much anyone who says "It's OK to be a pony" is a pony supremacist, same with "Pony Pride" and "Straight Pride" and "Stallion Pride." It's not a fallacious thing to do when it's a pretty accurate measure for whether or not somebody is racist.

That's so stupid. Don't you realize the problem with that arguement? This is the origin of the word, "Hatefacts." This sort of weird idea, "Yes, what you're saying is true buuuut it doesn't fit within our agenda so its bad!"
Even if I were the devil himself, 1+1=2. There shouldn't be anything controversial about that. What you would have to do is ask the pony in question what relavance the pharse, "It's okay to be a pony," has to do with the overall context of the situation.
> it's a pretty accurate measure for whether or not somebody is racist
No, its fucking not. First off, racism has still not been defined by anyone because nobody will agree on a defenition just that its bad, which should prove how unsubstancial it is truly is.
Secondly, you have zero proof of this bt besides that it is quite silly. Like, there aren'ät many ponies these days that says this kind of things in an act of defiance against the hegomony of the social justice crusaders in the media, on the internet and in the public space. Ever heard of no-identity politics that take a stand against both yours adn my position? Some of them will tell you, "It's ok to be a pony," and other things to provoke creatures like yourself and to put the spotlight on the clear bias when it comes to tribal issues and conflicts that the media establishment along with others showcases.

>Nobody ever complains about Pegasus Pride, Earth Pony Pride, Unicorn Pride
You're a liar or you don't know better.

You cannot state batpony pride here in the caves of batponia either. but this ties into this:
>. By contrast, there's no such thing as a "pony culture" in Equestria; whatever you can think of is more specifically tied to the heritage of subdivisions within the broad racial category of "pony."
Just because there's subdivisions does not mean that these things are new or imposssible to be proud of either regardless of the genesis of such a movement. Both these things are valid.
The idea that cultures and ponies exist within greater collectives or culture and ponies should not come as a surprize. For example, the batponies of transilponia actually have traditional dishes in where they suck blood out of animals and they also sleep in coffins while here in, batponia, we hang from the ceiling and only such the juices out of fruit.

>>279256
You're doing well but I doubt a lefty (or centrist as if the differecne would matter) would namedrop a book like that out of nowhere. Sometimes you have too much knowledge abot htings they woldn't know. Though I like how you rationalize and endlessly argue even when clearly in the a wrong, that is in character.

>>279259
I'm not interested in having this argument, roughly 5-7% of Jewish traders conducted voyages between Africa and the colonies, some less and at times almost none considering jewish people entered the slave trade fairly later. It's a far cry from "most" of the ships.

>>279260
Firstly, I think a lot of "anti-idpol" ponies are crypto-reactionaries. This is just from my experience in an online anti-idpol forum. But I don't think you need to be anti-idpol to understand that people who say certain things are signalling something.
Speaking of which, secondly, no I refuse to accept this idea that "It's OK to be a pony" shouldn't be treated as a hate symbol, when that's literally what it is. It was created from the very beginning to serve as a signal between pony supremacists. It's a hate symbol in the same way certain signs or numbers are given hate symbol status by pony supremacists. So long as enough national herdists agreed and coordinated on it, practically anything could become a symbol for national herdists.
Thirdly, I see people where I'm from speak of their heritage all the time. Maybe it's different in batponia, but that's how it is here.
Fourthly, this idea that there is any sense in a pegasus speaking of "pony pride" is just silly. Maybe you could say "Equestrian pride," but prior to Equestria's founding, pegasi, earth ponies, and unicorns were distinctly opposed ethnic groups. I see ponies say they are proud to be Equestrian often. But "pony pride" is an antagonistic thing to say.

>>279058
Twilight Sparkle only knows the magic she knows because she went to an all-Unicorn school in an all-pony city.
She made her lifelong pony friends in an all-pony town. (unless you count the one zebra living outside town limits in a nearby fucking forest)
Twilight's dumb enough to think she can make every creature act like a pony if she's nice enough to it.
But will that make the Yaks any less aggressive? Will that make the Dragons any less... Let's call it "edgy" to be polite?

>>279262
>crypto-reactionaries
That's some quality bunkerchan/leftypol shit right there.
But let's say we accept the term itself, and then accept the suggested existence of said crypto-reactionaries. Even then, the very being of this group of people who only engage in reaction to something and have to hide their opinions from the public brings with itself the other part of the equation: the something they are reacting to and the something that forced them into hiding. Things get even more interesting when you consider that the something in question has a history of being kicked out of most countries in the world at least once.
If you are kicked out from bloody everywhere and have to manipulate public opinion so much that you resort to literally trying to convince people on niche horse cartoon forums, just to not be hated so much...
then the problem is you, ki- I mean griffon. Because we're all being oh so very cryptic here.

>>279262
>running away from a argument because you don't like it
Alright, go and keep rambling about things that are unimportant as all you associate yourself with are not reality and are merely self delusions and what pleases the ego the most.
(You) are only a scholar of the unimportant distractions rather than the keeper of true knowledge as you refuse to acknowledge the world around you.

>>279267
am i allowed to call schizo when you accuse me of being a griffon or at least a griffon astroturf? i clearly stated that i'm a changeling

>>279272
>i clearly stated that
I am hereby clearly stating that I am Optimus Prime and have 5 ball sacks. If you disagree you're schizo.

>>279262
Ehh...
Most of these points are just you reiterating the same points I made counter points against which you still haven't answered.
The rest areso medicore that I don't even feel like refuting them.
Maybe I'll return at later point but I got stuff to do.

>>279267
> Even then, the very being of this group of people who only engage in reaction to something and have to hide their opinions from the public brings with itself the other part of the equation: the something they are reacting to and the something that forced them into hiding. Things get even more interesting when you consider that the something in question has a history of being kicked out of most countries in the world at least once.
Oy vey! That's hatespeech goy!
>>279273
This
>>279268
What a beautiful pic of aryanne. I would like it if the line wrok was bit smoother though, otherwise I really like it. Saved.

>>279276
You said that it’s “ridiculous” that a hate symbol could have neutral contents. Im sorry you feel that way, but that’s the nature of symbols; they signal something that might not be directly contained in them. Yes, a totally innocuous phrase could be a hate symbol if that’s how national herdists use it. It’s just true.
Similarly, it’s just a reality that in Equestria, due to the erase of past heritages in the Zebra community, Zebrican-Equestrian is a uniquely Equestrian ethnicity that makes sense to take pride in. By contrast, the same is not true of ponies in Equestria, whose heritage was not erased when they came here. I don’t know how to better state this; there just is no greater pony culture in the same way in Equestria.

>>279259
Thanks poner in arms.
>>279276
It's greatly appreciated.

>>279262
>Thirdly, I see people where I'm from speak of their heritage all the time. Maybe it's different in batponia, but that's how it is here.
>>279230
>where I'm from, zebra immigrants are literally the most educated, hard working tribes of creatures, even more than ponies.
>>279230
>The zebras are in a worse place in my state than others

>>279206
>The economy is subordinate to the people inside the nation, not the “nation”
>>279198
>I’m not sure I even see why this principle is applicable to broad policy, if it doesn’t economically hurt Equestria, then let us work here.
>>279211
>Again I don't see why Equestria should make it its mission to kick out everyone just to keep ponies from having kids with zebras, when everyone benefits from it economically.
>>279262
>no I refuse to accept this idea that "It's OK to be a pony" shouldn't be treated as a hate symbol, when that's literally what it is.
>>279178
>me being a changeling
>>279272
>i clearly stated that i'm a changeling
>>279152
>Don’t worry, in the global order there won’t be any culturecels to complain
>>279147
>hopefully the melting pot of Equestria will result in a homogenous culture that will spread outwards
>>279135
>Not in the immediate future, but in the optimal future, there will be no more ponies, zebras, griffons, or yaks, just creatures
<suspicious no mention of changelings
>>279116
>There are more ponies in Equestria since it's opened its borders than any point in history
Basic and acidic effectiveness is based on concentration. The dose makes the cure.
You are advocating for a reduction of the pony population to roughly 0%
>>279262
> this idea that there is any sense in a pegasus speaking of "pony pride" is just silly.
>>279247
>By contrast, there's no such thing as a "pony culture" in Equestria;
>it's meaningful to say that you have pride in being a Zebra.
>>279236
>Take, for example, a forum dedicated to zebra beauty, and a forum dedicated to pony beauty. Suppose ponybeauty were banned, and zebrabeauty wasn't banned. Obviously double standards, right? Well, no,
<not because it's untrue or even false it's because of ebil racists
>causes are started by or appropriated by racists.

>>279211
>Again I don't see why Equestria should make it its mission to kick out everyone
Wow, what nation wouldn't like to be 'peacefully' conquered. Where the average pony has no voting power, no economic power, no say in the future for their children.
Equestria is the shining house on the mountain top. You said it yourself, every creature wants to move here.
There is no shortage of willing applicants yearning to join us as we are, and will be with the vision of pony greatness taking and picking up friends along the way.
We don't need you. You need us, and if you think that's false go back to where ever you came from and prove me wrong. Make wherever it is a true competitor to Equestria.
Equestria is for equestrians, and the ponies that made with visions and desires into reality.
A freeloader, or a temporary guest, or a maid isn't the owner of a house.
Explain to me why you have a problem with that.

>>279281
>heritage kept alive and intact means you have no culture
>erased heritage means you have a culture you should be super proud of
It all makes so much sense now. Thanks for explaining it to us, Fishel.

>>279283
>A freeloader, or a temporary guest, or a maid isn't the owner of a house.
>Explain to me why you have a problem with that.

No single creature “owns Equestria” in the same way anyone would own a house. What am I meant to take from this analogy?

>>279286
>It all makes so much sense now. Thanks for explaining it to us, Fishel.

No, the point is that because earth ponies, pegasi, and unicorns can still point to the different places they came from respectively, that’s the heritage that they have. They don’t share a heritage collectively. On the other hand, Zebrican Equestrians share a culture as a broad racial group because they can’t do the same. Is this really that hard?

>>279289
>a group of genetically similar people is not a race if they can remember their respective nations
This is just pants-on-head retarded.
Also what's with the ID change? Shift ended or something?

>>279276
Yeah Aryanne is my favorite OC in all of the fandom, she is a cute mare.
>>279283
Poners unite!
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>>279290
No, ponies as a whole don’t really have universal cultural productions (food, music, etc) but zebrican equestrians do. Pony is a race, but zebrican equestrians is more like an ethnicity, with its own history beginning in the slavery of Equestria. It’s why zebrican immigrants signal their pride with their flag of origin, but zebrican descended from slaves signal “Zebra Pride.”

>>279293
I still don't understand why ponies of different nations are not allowed to like each other based on them being ponies.

>>279292
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>>279294

Come on, nobody is stopping you from self segregating your friend groups if you really want to

>>279293
>universal cultural productions
Except celestianity.
Also, this just means we have a deeper cutlure, you imbecile. But again, this has already been answered. You are argueing a point and count victory from arbitary qaulifiers.
And, if we truly are different culture and nations, why does it even come natural for us to unite in the first place?
It's honestly just riculous.

>>279298
Like, what are you even talking about anymore? Besides, I'm a herdist so I don't really care if the concept of ponies is reactionary to the flood of non-ponies. Because that's just meant that it didn't even occur to the ponies in tha past that non-ponies would ever live here. Like, wtf is even haha.

>>279220

tipicall centrist shill
half way into being a complete cuck

>>279300
Exactly my point, claiming “Ponyness” is just reactionary to demographic changes. I’m against that

>>279301
I don’t even know what nazis are but if they’re like herdists i’m against them.

>>279303
>claiming “Ponyness” is just reactionary to demographic changes.
But it doesn't make it any less true.

>>279220
>>279294

Zebras are not ponies. Check what Twilight said when Zecora appeared first time in ponyville.

even Rarity ouked a bit in her own mouth that time.

if you don't believe me just check that episode

>>OP the massive bug faggot
>Goy hide your head in the sand once it's done it will be the communist ideal
>breadlines and starvation for everycreature equally.
You don't want diversity in creatures, or in thought or in sexual characteristics. Right?
>>279303
>Exactly my point, claiming “Ponyness” is just reactionary to demographic changes. I’m against that
Okayyyy... but why are you against that?

>>279298
>self segregating
Is that some griffon mind trick? We don't want to "self segregate". That is what YOU are arguing in favour of: segragation of the pony population based on historical national borders. Because we supposedly have no common culture, only ziggers have that. Go fuck yourself. This is clearly just divide and conquer.

>>279303

you don't need to know what is a nazi.
is obvious you don't know but you are still going against them

you just need to know there is a fire, and nazis can extiguish that fire.

if you don't help you are part of it

>>279303
lol

https://mlpol.net/images/src/5937CDC1C264A2BE66132281678AF6B0-1839695.webm

when ""centrists"" show their true colors....

now we know what to do

>>279303
Its only reactionary because the idea of having non-ponies in our lands was out of the question, so nonpony ever thought of it. I don't understand if you accept smaller identities then why can't you accept broader? You do realize that if you are for smaller tribes to be able to keep their sovereignty, then broader ones should obviously not be a problem?
Like, if I wanna have segregation of batponies in batponia, are you for that then? Or are you against that?

This such a retard arguement you're presenting but its common, although, it is revealed to be stupid during scrutiny.

who invited the shit eater? lol

>>279304
>>279306

Like I said, ponyness is inherently in opposition to others, because it‘s used in opposition to changing demographics. That’s why the very notion needs to go away: picking and choosing who falls under the rallying line of “ponyness” serves no purpose but to drive conflict.

>>279308
>Is that some griffon mind trick?
schizo agane

>>279313
Broader western identity certainly exists, sure. I, as a changeling in Equestria, am just as part of western culture as any pony

>>279316
>picking and choosing
There is no picking and choosing. What are talking about?! We know who is a pony and who isn't by just looking at them alone. Its fucking clear and everycreature can tell, its just a matter of when its covenient and when its not.
> part of western culture as any pony
Obviously, you are not. Wtb?

Anyway, this is typical tactic. These is what filthy liars like yourself always do. When it comes to ponyness, you will be like, "Buuh buh ponies were seprated into tribes, therefore they can't have a shared broader identity." But then , the same fucking creatures will argue in batponia about how, "Nobody is really a bastpony," "How can you tell?" and, "Besides, there really isn't anything batpony cultural at all it all comes from other tribes. So there really aren't any batponies because we have always had immigartion."

These kinds of ridculous arguements. Anyway buck yourself.

>>279316

>as a changelling in equestria...

>as a jew in germany i have rights...as any german

good try Schlomongelling. i bet you voted for Chryshillarys

>>279316
>schizo agane
I thought such levels of rhetorical sophistication impossible.
>picking and choosing who falls under the rallying line of “ponyness”
It's genetics. You don't pick and choose genetics. What makes ponies an actual group that is different from zebras is biology itself.
Ziggers forming groups to make zigger movements have genes in common with each other that they don't have in common with ponies. Same when it comes to pony groups. No amount of propaganda can change that. You saying ponyness is inherently wrong and needs to go away is a literal call for genocide, by the very strictest of definitions.
I rest my case.

>>279316
>Like I said, ponyness is inherently in opposition to others, because it‘s used in opposition to changing demographics. That’s why the very notion needs to go away: picking and choosing who falls under the rallying line of “ponyness” serves no purpose but to drive conflict.
So a zebra for zebra pride in zebraca would drive conflict.
A griffon in griffonstone with zionistic griffon pride would drive conflict.
A changeling with changeling pride would cause conflict.
Being a 'centrist' shitlib would cause conflict.
You know what would make all the conflict stop? If you go to your home countries, or nations, or bug jar and make those places a better super power than Equestria.

>Broader western identity certainly exists, sure. I, as a changeling in Equestria, am just as part of western culture as any pony
Going to have to actually explain that one because that's a stretch. I want to see what kind of pretzel you'll try to make. No shapeshifting into a cock sucker doesn't count.

>>279326

Exactly.

guess (((who))) is a changelling pretending to be a pony

EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>279327
This.

>Pony Equestria must apologize for the changelling hive destroyer. If you don´t, you're a fucking Nazi like th rest of them.

>One asshole Changelling doesn't mean we condemn a whole fucking species. Get it trough your sick head.

lol this thread (((centrists)))

>>279326
>>279322
Countries like Equestria value freedom and liberty, equal rights, personal expression, and individualism. I look at things like these and identify more with them than a changeling from some hive where the individual is not valued. In fact if changeling were to be expelled from Equestria, I would not go back to a hive but a non changeling country that more greatly values these things. And its absurd that anyone would connect these ideas to something needlessly exclusionary like ponyness

>>279324
>It's genetics. You don't pick and choose genetics.
Yeah, it's so bizarre.

>>279326
>You know what would make all the conflict stop? If you go to your home
Yeah, this. The way to prevent differnet groups of people from butting heads, is by seperating them .
>>279327
Saved.

>>279330
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ypu can be anyshit you want. but stp pushing your narrative iother cultures to pretend you are ok for the future of pony kind.

there is a huge difference and you know it.. or maybe....

>>279330
Sorry, Soygoy of Mossad pony called, he wants his rainbow dildo back tonight.

Yes, but the individual is nothing without its collective. This fact applies to more than just taxes.

Also, the values pushed today are shit and not what made ponykind great.

>>279330
>even if you kick me out, I will just infest some other country
That much goes without saying, we wouldn't expect anything else.

>>279165
>the one proposing demographic replacement is a Changeling
Every. Fucking. Time.

>>279334
I’m not infesting anything. I value ethics, freedom, and justice. In what way am i harming society?

>>279337
I'm not typing this out again for you
>>279324

>>279339
So a changeling could value freedom, reason, and justice, but you’ll kick them out because you think that something in the changeling’s social genes means they will down the line dissolve the social cohesion of Equestria? Again, no changeling i’ve ever known born in Equestria expressed a desire to return back to the hive, even if theoretically expelled.

>>279330
>value freedom and liberty, equal rights, personal expression, and individualism.
>And its absurd that anyone would connect these ideas to something needlessly exclusionary like ponyness
Uhhh, no. It's not absurd it's the logical and emotional endpoint to further those values you so dearly enjoy from us.
The connection between the values and what the fuck it means to be a pony can not be stripped away into their base elements.
The seperate yet connected parts each fulfills a role in a natural magical scientific fashion.

If you strip the veins from a pony they will most likely die.
If you strip the bones you will have a formless blob unable to do anything.
If you strip the emotions you have magical meat golem slaves.
If you strip what it means to be a pony from Equestria those values will wither and die without the strong roots, the bloody rain, or the celestial lights.
>>279337
>I’m not infesting anything. I value ethics, freedom, and justice. In what way am i harming society?
Yoy say one thing yet the actions you propose would kill it. To spread those values you must support each unique nations' heritage and peoples. If that is what you want.
If you want a slave race, you mix them up till nothing is left. You burn and pervert justice. You murder ethics. You strangle freedom. You rape truth. Brutalize honesty. Abuse generosity. Shatter kindness. End laughter. Violate loyality.
Then the magic of friendship you so greedily nipped at the stoke breast will be dried and infested.

If I'm wrong, and for all I know I might be, explain to me how what you want to happen would promote those values.

>>279340
>social genes
What the actual fuck?
No, I was talking about literal genes, you tard. And it is because you advocate for the genocide of a specific group, and would even call it justice. It was pretty fucking clear.

>>279340

no. that retoric doesn't work here shill

you can be a dumb rock if you want in equestria.
damn even nazis tolerated niggers in afrika korps. and sand nigger allies.

that doesn't mean you can come and spread your genes all over our children.

get it?

now go and do your changelling stuff without bothering ponies

>>279340
>a literal hive of scum and villainy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcb4_QwP6fE
>Again, no changeling i’ve ever known born in Equestria expressed a desire to return back to the hive, even if theoretically expelled.
I wonder why. It'd almost like Equestria isn't a grey shithole full of slaves that creatures. They actually enjoy the founding values, and the ponies who made it possible. Who could have thought that, slightly sarcastic there.
Then you get it in your head the best way to promote those values is to encourage and enforce the grey enslavement.
Fiction isn't that retarded.

>>279345

just like ziggers that don't like equestria and instead of going back to "zebrica" they keep pushing ponies limits until one day some pony say "ENOUGH"

>>279342
when did i advocate for the genocide of any creature? you mean when i said pony ness needs to go away? yes, i meant as in the reactionary concept of pony ness, not literally killing or force breeding the ponies.

>>279341
Again i never promoted the literal forced cultural genocide of anyone, cultures and people will drift in whatever direction they need. That’s why i’m against genocides by force, but if demographics shift in a certain way on their own i have no objection to it. And suppose we achieved a singular culture and race: what would be so bad so long as we valued freedom, ethics, justice, reason, and truth? I’m not an Equestrian because i like being around creatures that look like ponies

>>279348
Except the concept of ponyness is not "reactionary", it is biological. There is only one way to make it go away, and you know that very well.
Don't even try to hide it, nobody reading this is that stupid.

>>279349

Oh i see, this is an important moment for everyone here. When you hear an academic saying we need to destroy pony ness, it doesn’t mean the genocide of anyone. It just means getting rid of this concept marriage between creatures who look a certain way and certain values. Any creature can value what “poniesl value and that’s a fact

>>279351
Then you kill the context, which disfigures those values.

>>279351
Except
>>279144
>>279147
>there will be no more tribe but the global tribe
The eradication of every cultural or genetic borders between different people.
>it doesn’t mean the genocide of anyone
There are examples of you going on about how those evil people who are planning the genocide of others signalling things to each other through seemingly innocent phrases. Kindly apply that to your "academic" statements here.

>>279351
Fucking shit. I work with magical borderline semi-chaos symbols and the processes of changing and having them remain in stasis.
With what you propose You will unravel the rope and weaken the entire structure becoming worthless. It will be so fragile that nothing of any significant value for the majority of all tasks could be done. The only place that would be good for is children's candy experiments, and isolated study. Both important, but not suitable as a replacement.

>>279351
>When you hear an academic saying we need to destroy pony ness
I hope you know how to read pony body language.

>>279355
the difference between libs and herdists is that libs don’t lie about what we mean when we say things. when i say that, one day, i hope we reach a single global culture, that’s all i mean. i don’t mean that ponys will be expelled, go to concentration camps or be murdered.

>>279359
>i hope we reach a single global culture, that’s all i mean
That's not even true, your statements weren't just about culture.
Your stated goals are:
>all cultures and ethnicities melted together into a homogeneous mess
>destruction of whiteness
The only reason it doesn't involve actual killing but rather shilling on online forums in order to manipulate and spread propaganda is your own cowardice. Orchestrated replacement is genocide. It doesn't matter whether you get to orchestrate it yourself, or just cheer from the sidelines and occasionally shill on cambodian horse racing sites, you are the same kind of scum.

>>279359
Libs just don't take into consideration context, cause and effect, or the logistical chains between everything that bind everything together. The further meaning and implications throughout time and creatures are lost on them.
If they applied that they wouldn't be shitlibs.
>i don’t mean that ponys will be expelled, go to concentration camps or be murdered.
Oh, and a lie by omission is still a lie. Intellectual dishonesty is disgusting.
You just hope for a day there will be no ponies.

>>279360
Well said friend.

>>279360
>destruction of whiteness
>whiteness
>humans
>in my pony thread
Humans get out of Equestria reeeeeeeee

>>279351

i litteraly enjoy how you avoid my comments.

Jew, nigger centrist or kripto marxist .

any of those in this context trying to convince everyone about how important is for you to be accepted just make it worse .

no one needs you whining about how all creatures must be seen as equal in an utopic society.

you want to think other creatures can live happily in equestria, yes you can think of that and in fact can happen.

THAT DOEN'T MEAN you are seen as a good elemnt in this thread by constantly tring to shove us your narrative dwn our throats in search for approval.

the fact that you TRY HARD is what make you get far from your goal instead of making progress.

Enjoy being marked for eradication by admins.

>>OP cockgargling faggot
This is fine for you right?

>>279360
>>279362

I think you’re getting this the wrong way. I don’t hope there “won’t be ponies one day,” but that one day there won’t be “anycreature.” I harbor no hatred for anyone, and no special desire to see anyone gone. I just would like that there one day be a single global race and culture. But only if we drift voluntarily that way.

>>279365

I’m literally none of those things but ok, my OC drawings came from the heart

>>279368
>my OC drawings came from the heart
Back to Derpibooru zigger.

>>279368
Yeah, and for this utopia of yours we only have to pay with letting in everyone from everywhere and playing second-class citizen in our own countries. Get fucked.
>But only if we drift voluntarily that way.
Over my dead body. I sincerely hope that that your descendants will get the some answer down the generations until you disgusting animals stop trying.

>>279368

backpedaling and avoiding the point.

read again tryhard

>>279368

not making progress dude.

you are just digging deeper

the song really makes sense

>>279370
It would be weird for sure if that were what’s going on, but immigration where i’m from is on the whole positive.

>>279373
Well nobody is going to look like a pony by valuing the same things, the thing is that looks don’t matter.

>>279368
>that one day there won’t be “anycreature.”
How about you start that else where. I like creatures being separate unique creatures, go make your grey bugslaves else where. If that is what you want for Equestria maybe it's best you leave this land of opportunity and forge your own destiny to do what you think you ought to.

>>279375
Biology does, it's the physical conduit for magic. It shapes who we are, and we can shape it, but outright ignoring such things is asinine.
You eat love. Other creatures can not consume love for sustenance they need food. They have different biological needs and desires.
>It would be weird for sure if that were what’s going on, but immigration where i’m from is on the whole positive.
Where are you from?

>>279375

bugs dindu nuffins

>>279375
>immigration where i’m from is on the whole positive
Yeah, for you. Not the ponies.
Which I guess is the whole point, isn't it? To replace.

>>279375

DNA MATTERS

>>279376
>>279378
>>279377
It’s simple. I’m from Equestria; Immigrant creatures don’t cause wage suppression, and they don’t appear to hurt social cohesion. In fact, by drawing in immigrant labor, it keeps businesses in Equestria instead of outsourcing (which is the real method of wage suppression in our day and age)

>>279379
it’s not as though DNA inclines one towards a branch of political or ethical philosophy