/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>274628
Keep an eye out for timebombs, Byte and co. have already proven they don't want competition.

>>274628
>Ponerpics is the combined effort of Atlas, Lotus, and Pupperwoff, the creators and administrators of mlpol.net, npfchan, and ASPNetChan.
Promising.

I never expected MLPOL to make its own image booru. But here we are. Good fortune. /)

>>274628
This was quite the pleasant surprise.
Thanks for not leaving us alone with Zizzy as the only other Philomena booru.

Nice and I'm doing my part to put this site ahead of the competition! I'm not part of the staff but I'd like to ask anons to do their part and put in an hour to add the best art and test features. It's not part of the rules but I recommend quoting the original descriptions of works from Derpibooru, so a minimum of history is lost.
Also while the site is new it's possible to establish changes in precedent regarding what tags can be used (the more images there are the greater the cost of switching). So go ahead and suggest how tagging can be improved to minimize images missing from relevant searches.

Now this is a pleasant surprise

So, why would we use this, as instead to Rainbooru or Ponybooru?

>>274628
/MLPOL/ continually and constantly shows to be the right decision with caring people and poners that make a real difference.
Thank you, you magnificent awesome people.
>>274645
I'd like to think it's in addition to. Secondly and most importantly this one is ran by the administrators, moderators, janitors, and other great people who make /MLPOL/ have a great team.
Thirdly, because this is with trusted people there is a place for all works that won't be fucked around with. Either in shadow banning, quiet deletion of certain works, or making it harder for some users.

>>274646
Who owns ponypics, exactly? I don't see anything on the policy page pertaining to how it's moderated.

>>274647
The site is pretty bare right now.
>>274628
>Ponerpics is the combined effort of Atlas, Lotus, and Pupperwoff, the creators and administrators of mlpol.net, npfchan, and ASPNetChan.
>The only way to guarantee that any site on the internet will impartially host content is to run it yourself. Thus, we made PonerPics.
The biggest tipoff is that it's pinned, but I'm not exactly sure who owns it either.
Speaking of not exactly sure would politics (and non-poner related pictures/content) be allowed on ponerpics?

>>274648
Well, they had better make a policy page soon, because right now it isn't clear how it's run or who runs it.
Transparency is the key, if you want to attract artists and a sufficient tagging community. Rainbooru and Ponybooru are already picking up steam right now.

>>274628
Fuck Derpibooru! I posted on their forum and said "Add me, SilverStarApple, to your DNP list because I hate communism and this site's staff is full of communists."
What did they do?
Gave me a one-week ban with an obvious lie in the ban message.
Rule #6 - SilverStarApple7 ban evading. Go to Support if you want to appeal. (Ban ID: SF10165)
I wasn't trying to appeal to them or beg for my ban to be removed, I was telling them to never put my art on their website again! I was spitting on their website's grave!

So are DNPs planned or not? With DNPs, you'd be competing against Zizzy/Ponybooru. Without DNPs, you'd be competing against Rainbooru. Both have a clear niche - a lack of DNPs is useful for archiving but can also scare away artists. So one booru that's artist-friendly and one that is archiving everything are useful.

My personal opinion would be that it would be better to compete with Zizzy, since he's a faggot. Rainbooru is pretty promising. On the other hand Rainbooru isn't built on a proven platform, so its continued existence depends on the competence of Raindev.

>>274638
This poner is right.

>>274655
A good booru should archive absolutely everything, even patreon-only art and unauthorized edits. Why? For the sake of completionism.
However banning them means less images stored at once, and it will please those who believe in paywalling and "I have a private art folder I only allow my bestest friends to see, pay me and simp for me long enough and you might get to see it" bullshit.
What are butthurt artists going to do, sue you for uploading their art of Twilight Sparkle's asshole without their permission?

>>274647
Poner Pics is owned by Lotus and Atlas

>>274669
I'm gonna have to agree with banning the patreon-only art here. Cause not doing so just sounds like a good way to get artists and their simp's to militarize against you when it does get posted.
Edits though? Unless an artist specifically asks for edits to be disallowed (in the case that someone is trying to be a real dickwad to them with edits), allow them all.

>>274647
>>274648
I can confirm that is whole site is owned by Atlas and Lotus, who came up with the idea a while back, it has just been slow to implement because the code is not simple to learn overnight. All pictures once allowed on derpibooru are allowed here, including all politics, however, the site rules mention that it is all to be My Little Pony related. No furry exclusive images. The rules are simple by design to allow the maximum freedom, moderation will be to keep things pony related.
As far as content in it, we just opened it up. We are working to upload, but we need more hooves on deck.
>>274645
Staff are rules are in your favor here as opposed to Ponybooru, which has expressly allowed furry content on their site.
>>274649
I'm sorry for the error. We are working on the site, so if you experience anything else, please let us know so we can troubleshoot.
>>274638
All changes, as few as they will be, will be announce here and on the allowed forums there. There will be no unexpected changes without input save some planned aesthetic options such as theme changes we are planning on releasing. We will be planning additional features, though it is unclear what can be added until we learn the code as time goes on.
>>274655
Right now we don't have plans for DNPs, though the structure is there, built into the base code. We will have to discuss this thoroughly as it might cause artist to try to take down Aryanne images as they join the censorship bandwagon. We want to attract artists, but we don't want to sacrifice freedom to do it. So we will be brainstorming possible ways to entice artist engagement.

>>274672
Noice

>>274669
It's a balance between not scaring off artists, and archiving everything. Like I said Rainbooru for example goes squarely in the "archive EVERYTHING" pony direction, and I fully expect tons of artists to boycott it and be angry at it, and many more to just silently not support it.

I suppose banning paid-only art but allowing all edits could be a compromise, somewhere in between Ponybooru and Rainbooru. Interesting. Gonna bring up a suggestion that was mentioned for ponybooru: standardising on an "edited from:X" tag, to avoid edits cluttering the "artist:X" tag and make it 100% clear the edit isn't necessarily endorsed or intended by the artist.

>>274672
>All pictures once allowed on derpibooru are allowed here
>No furry exclusive images
I'm afraid that's mutually exclusive.
https://derpibooru.org/images/1637196
https://derpibooru.org/images/1637047
https://derpibooru.org/images/1664939
https://derpibooru.org/images/1881221
https://derpibooru.org/images/2065140
https://derpibooru.org/images/2148230
are all literally furry-exclusive images, with a vague MLP theme. "oc:tanja" is literally a furaffinity fox OC that wears a horse costume. Whisperfoot has anthro deer OCs, sometimes without any ponies in the image.
I don't advise "allowing every picture from derpibooru", unless you really want to be lose with what counts as furry.

>Ponybooru, which has expressly allowed furry content on their site.
Ponybooru doesn't allow more furry than Derpibooru does. In fact, if you stick to "everything on Derpibooru is allowed", then you're exactly as furry as Ponybooru. That's not to say this is guaranteed to remain that way forever, Zizzy may or may not be trusted (I am inclined to trust him but that's entirely my opinion), but right now the rules definitely don't allow actual furry artwork that's not related to ponies at all.
There's like one furry image that hasn't been deleted because he's "using it as an example of content that is not encouraged on the site", and encouraging people to downvote bomb it. Make of that what you will.

>we want to attract artists, but we don't want to sacrifice freedom to do it
>we will be brainstorming possible ways to entice artist engagement
Interesting, I look forward to how this develops.

>>274672
To be honest, I'm having trouble believing that this will attract as much attention as the other altboorus.
I'm going to observe it for now though. See if it picks up.
>Right now we don't have plans for DNPs
Should probably get to work on that then, out of respect for artists.

>>274674
>Ponybooru doesn't allow more furry than Derpibooru does. In fact, if you stick to "everything on Derpibooru is allowed", then you're exactly as furry as Ponybooru.
Yeah, the whole thing was a mistake in wording of trying to allow deer and cows, since they technically are not pony but many still consider them to be a part of the world.

>>274669
Idk, a lot of artists make a living off of patreon. It would be unfair to them to post their stuff when they've already explicitly asked you not to.

>>274672
It's fine, Lotus personally identified the problem, and as might have been guessed, it was a user malfunction. Thanks for helping me on that, sorry for being an idiot

>>274670
How is it moderated?

>>274675
Our DNP system works just fine. If artists want to request a DNP, they can come to us and we will respond to them.

>>274679
Current moderators are Lotus (myself), and this guy >>274672. With a few more working on the technical aspect. Both of us are mlpol.net moderators and have been for a while.

>>274681
Is there a mod list on the site itself? Because I don't see any.

>>274628
I dont really visit /mlpol/ but had to say you guys are the bomb for doing this, keep it up!

>>274682
No. That page was taken away to simplify the footer, but may be re-added.

Shilling this by the way https://ponerpics.org/forums/meta/topics/userscript-derpibooru-ponybooru-image-importer

>>274684
I think it's important. Honestly, I don't think anyone ever looks at the footer of any website, so I don't think "clutter" is an issue (as long as it's not visually cluttered, which it's not because the text is tiny).

>>274685
I'm actually a tourist from /mlp/, it's been brought up there a few times

>>274672
>engagement
Look into becoming a Postybirb-supported site. Since Postybirb just copies and pastes descriptions, tags, etc between all the sites, it would make things relatively painless for artists with them only needing to put another checkmark in.

>>274686
Site Staff, as well as a page for contact, will be added in the next round of smaller changes

>>274684
I'm going to wait until the site is finished before I mke an account then, just out of habit.
The privacy page is nonexistent too.
>>274681
they can come to us and we will respond to them
Where, exactly? I don't see any tab for that.
>>274685
>deliberately appeals to a very niche subculture of the pony fandom
That might be an obstacle, tbh. With other alt-boorus existing already, some politically-neutral artists might be hesitant to support a site that's directly affiliated with /mlpol/. Perhaps measures should be taken to calm their concerns.

>>274689
That's easily countered, as ALL artwork is being transferred over, including disgusting zebra-dom aryanne shit

>>274690
True, but there's the possibility of being seen as "Ponybooru, for NAZIS".

>>274691
But then ponybooru is already being accused of being "Derpibooru, FOR NAZIS"

>>274692
Not to the same exist Ponypics will be, considering that the only thing users have to know about the mods as of now is that they're the same mods as /mlpol/.
Idk. Maybe it'll work.

>>274685
If we begin to advertise the Booru then this site will gain more attention from shills and fags, where do you reckon we start to advertise ponerpics? I vow /mlp/, ponypics, rainbooru and not derpi due to the large amount of niggers and brony's on there.

>>274689
The site is finished, although like all sites more changes can be expected in the future. It just shipped with those removed. We will add them back, likely today.

>send in requests
The forums and reporting system work

We are not affiliated with mlpol except that so far there is heavy staff overlap. Ponerpics is an a-political poner image archive

>>274695
You can't notify an audience without then being susceptible to a larger audience. The main difference is that /ourguy/s are at the wheel.
>inb4 ponerpics becomes the leading site for zebra detractor art out of spite

>>274697
I understand this but i'm just worried about this site being flooded with normal niggers, that's all.

>>274696
How many mods are there on Ponypics? Is there a public list?

>>274628

I want to say i am genuinely surprised and impressed over this. I randomly browsed it today and noticed that Lotus was bulk-losing Aryanne art already.

Never thought this possible that this community would ever host its own art archive. This is a great asset to our community as well as a moral boosty and i hope that Ponerpics will prosper to the fullest extent possible.

Years ago i considered creating a board for Aryanne on 8chan just to archive the content. (in retrospect, what a grave mistake that would have been...) but this has vastly surpassed anything i could have ever accomplished. and it brings some other utility with it as well. This will in all likelyhood be the only pony image booru i will use for the foreseeable future. no offense to Rainbooru admin but I stick what I am close with.

Thank You Atlas, Pupper and Lotus. On behalf of every Artist who made Art for this community over for 7 years and even now. Im moved.

>>274699
There are two moderators, including myself. See >>274681 >>274684 >>274688

>>274700
About 20% of all Aryanne art on derpibooru has been uploaded, and I am trying to increase that now.

>>274701
There should probably be a list on the site, so that non-/mlpol/ users can know who's running it.

>>274698
Well it's not going to work unless the userbase grows, unless you intend to tag every individual pic yourself.

>>274707
We saw this.

>>274691
On the upside, if we're already seen as that then we get to delete commie art.

>>274718
No, the site is expressly anti-censorship.

>>274718
i think >>274722 has a point that the CONTENT should be anti censorship. But the ADMINS should never tolerate even a single SJW/commie

>>274723
at least in their hierarchy of management

>>274723
>>274724
That's missing the point though. It falls on the users to determine what is acceptable or not by way of the voting system in place, not by exclusion. Derpi started this mess because they allowed/caused the site to take a biased stance to content, and you're trying to get ponrrpics to do it on the first day???

>>274723
>But the ADMINS should never tolerate even a single SJW/commie
That's hypocrisy and defeats the purpose of Ponerpics.
Perhaps to suppress shilling might be welcomed, but not art.

>>274725
>>274726
oh no no no. what I meant was the CONTENT (any pic or comment) should be allowed under free speech. I saying ponerpics should stop sjw subversion by not letting sjws mod or have any power over the site, such as being able to change the site rules to implement censorship like they did in derpi.

>>274727
>not letting sjws mod or have any power over the site
How exactly would new mods be chosen actually?

>>274727
probably by looking their politics and behavior. Sjws can't help but virtue signal at least regularly. you could also talk to them before hand to get a feel for what kind of personality you are letting in. vetting mods just needs to be taken seriously and not some faceless application.

If they have somehow made it in you can then judge for their behavior like: dishonesty, selective justice, abuse of power, refusing transparency. most of it is normal rule braking, but again sjws are pretty easy to identify, but hard to let them go.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=lrhshJgHTec
I am really just repeating everything Vox Day wrote about how sjws infiltrate and then subvert otherwise healthy institutions and organizations. in his book corporate cancer and a little bit of sjws: always lie and sjws: always double down. I highly recommend you guys at least glance at the basic ideas of them.

>>274727
>not letting sjws in
Lol, you haven't seen Lotus. Acknowledging the worth that one guy's assurances on the internet have, dont you worry.

>>274728
Step one he must disavow communism
Step two he must find a communist somewhere and piss it off
Step three he must learn about the UK's "Asian Grooming Gangs" aka Child-Molesting Pakistani Muslim Rape Gangs That Also Buy Sell And Traffic Children and admit rape is bad even when Muslims do it en masse with the aid of Liberals playing damage-control for it and Globalists funding it.

Hey everyone, Atlas here.
I know it's been a while since I last chatted with you but I'm glad to see you seem to like the new site. I've been reading through your posts and I have a few things I want to clear up.
First, the point of ponerpics is to make people feel like they can post their poner pics. and that's it. we, despite having an ideology of our own, will not enforce it on the populous. just as anyone is welcome to post on mlpol with a good argument, anyone is welcome to post on ponerpics if they are not posting illegal stuff. no one will be banned for political affiliation, no one will be doxxed.
that being said Moderation is a serious concern for us, mlpol was founded on the idea of self moderation, meaning that it was easy to find and hire good ponis for modding, for ponerpics we will have to be more selective, the process will be arduous. even if hired onto staff you will have little power and must prove yourself over time to gain any privledges.
as with mlpol any staff member, including myself, found to be operating in a way which is for the good of the site, including enforcing his own political beliefs, or being influenced by outside sources, will be removed at once.

to be clear; ponerpics is a safe haven for free speech, and we will enforce that til death. If it isn't a crime, if it is MLP, it can be posted. It will not be a safe space for anyone. come and post if you want, but don't demand the staff take anything down cause it offends you. Communists can post, Nazis can post, etc. This is about free speech, not ideological enforcement. AND NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE OVER STAFF TO ENFORCE THEIR OWN IDEOLOGY.

>>274737
Hooray! An Atlas post! You're not dead, and ponerpics is a place for all pony images to congregate.
The truth always drills through lies no matter how long it takes.
A true maximum free speech place. With a bedrock of pony.

>>274731
>little bit of sjws: always lie and sjws: always double down.
True.

>>274739
rule #3 is sjws always project

>>274699
>>274702
Site Staff page: https://ponerpics.org/pages/staff

>>274737
based atlas. lifting the world upwards once again.
there was an epic pic made near the birth of mlpol, of atlas with a derpy over the face holding up mlpol. I want to post it due to how epic atlas is being right now, but I can't find it

>>274747
Please offer more credit to Lotus, Pupper, and Pineapple, they did most of the work <3

>>274748
Thanks Pineapple, Pupper, and Lotus!
Lotus thank you for tagging and importing many pictures.
Thank you all for making this possible.

912 uploads, and increasing from Lotus alone.
71 uploads from Megalith (site moderator)
15 uploads from fallenPineapple
1 upload from Pupper
Finally 1 upload from Atlas
1178 total uploads from everyone.
I don't know the roles everyone has played, but you all are incredibly valuable and beloved.

correct me if im wrong; but i assume the current upload process is at least half automated.
in any case; in thiscearly stage i suggest uploading content that is threatened to be removed from competing sites.
i have seen discord leaks from the db server from a potential future site owner; where he said hes willing "to ban content to piss off 4chan". i think thats obvious but they are not even trying to hide it anymore.
things like mlpol and anonfilly art could be next on the chopping block. now we can do something about it.

>>274762

also big shoutout to FallenPineapple for the tech support. youve been a great aid once again!
for those unaware; pineapple created the old mlpol.net build which we used for almost three years.

>>274762
It is not automated. Every image on ponerpics must be uploaded individually and manually, although the script included in the OP makes the process just about as simple as copypasting a link and clicking "upload." Just uploading the remaining 2000 images tagged "Aryanne" will take me at least 10 hours.

>>274766
Why not just write a script to auto-import the whole tag?

>>274775
The derpi API looks like it's working for me.

>>274776
The PonerPics API doesn't seem to be working.

>>274777
Oh, is the image post API disabled?

>>274778
That's what I'm thinking.

>>274772
I am already using a script for that. It's still literally thousands of images, and some images require new tags.

>>274778
What do you mean?

>>274780
I haven't actually checked to see if the image posting API is working, but it's detailed on derpi at https://derpibooru.org/pages/api#posting-images

If it were working, you could have a script grab all images on a derpi tag and then upload them all using that API call after grabbing image tags and description from derpi. You could even avoid reposting shit by using the sha512_hash field of the image response to search for the image on ponerpics first.

Are you having to manually edit some of the tags before posting?

>>274782
It isn't essential, but many tags have been manually uploaded as occasionally tags are lacking on derpibooru

>>274783
I'm not really sure what you mean. Can you give me an example?
Are you having to add extra tags to some images?

>>274784
For instance, adding tags for backgrounds on images, adding artists on images that are tagged as "unknown artist" but I happen to know who the artist was, adding "lesbianism" and other tags on sexually explicit images, and so forth.

>>274786
I see. If you have to edit the tags on a lot of images, it makes automation hard.
What if you were to auto-import a bunch images and then get a list of them to go inspect for tag updates afterwards?

>>274790
Just importing the images is difficult (as simple as copypasting the link and clicking upload, but for a thousand images, even that minimal effort is difficult). We do not have functioning masse importers as of yet.

>>274792
>We do not have functioning masse importers as of yet.
We did for a brief moment: >>274775

>>274792
That's what the image posting API is for.
Assuming the image posting API was working, if you had a script that could scrape and upload an entire derpi tag, then list the ponerpic images that were uploaded so you could scrutinize tags, would that be better than the current process?

>>274795
Do you have any idea how to turn on or install image posting API?

Even under the current script, just having a scrape of derpibooru links would be helpful. Yes, that would be helpful.

>>274794
I tried that, and it did not work with ponerpics

>>274796
I'm not sure how to get the image posting API working. I haven't used Philomena at all.
Right now, I'm just getting a 500 error code, but I haven't tried this before, so there could be something wrong with my request.

>>274797
It was working earlier today. Seems to be down now.

>>274798
Was it working on PonerPics?

>>274799
Yes. And Ponybooru.

>>274804
Trannies aren't people, they're Useful Idiots working for the lefty agenda.
Only a fag would reject your own humanity for an illusion.

>>274722
Then the site is already cucked beyond redemption, it's just a matter of time.
O'Sullivan's law is a bitch.

>>274628
I really appreciate the effort you guys have put into this site, it's honestly amazing! One minor thing, though, I noticed the topbar on a mobile browser turns blue like it does for Derpi when viewing Ponerpics. Is there a way for you guys to change that?

>>274812
No matter how "cucked" it might be, I'm ultimately in favor of Ponerpics having a Rule 3 like /mlpol/ does. Ponies allowed, no exceptions. The old way of "if you don't like it, use the filters" combined with the ability to hide individual images is the best way to handle this, just like how most everyone on the anti-censorship, pro-freedom side wants.

>>274812
So if I'm following your meaning,
>>274737
Is 'cucked'?

>>274812
O'Sullivan's law applies when the leadership is indecisive. Here, the leadership is vehemently pro-free expression, which, incidentally, is somehow a right-wing principle nowadays. That's not changing.

Is 4/pol/ cucked because leftists aren't banned? I mean, you could argue that it's cucked by shills and astroturfers, but that's besides the point. Not censoring points of view does not imply that you're politically neutral and open to subversion.

Can't log in - says "Please Match The Requested Format" at login screen.

>>274820
I had the same problem yesterday then realized it wanted an email and not a username.

>>274820
Nevermind, I'm a retard.

>>274821
Yeah I just now tried it on a whim and it worked.

Posting here as well, update to the bulk Derpi importer. Should actually work now (previous release wasn't reliably extracting metadata). Also, the upload API is back.

https://mega.nz/folder/iAxnjJRZ#UsydEfU75mbVhbjoC8ETsQ

>>274829
Verified that it works

>>274829
can you release the source code so we can verify it's security?

>>274835
Here you go. Will need Construct 2 to open the CAPX.

>>274836
It uploaded the CAPX as a zip. Just change the file extension to .capx to open. Or you could use this link:

https://u.smutty.horse/lvxbtqxpnya.capx

Same thing.

>>274836
I appreciate that

>>274836
You need to get a tripcode or sign your builds, because anybody can pretend to be you.

so what is the difference between this site and rainbooru? It certainly looks nicer.

>>274840
PonerPics is a Philomena based site

>>274840
PonerPics is using Philomena (same as Derpibooru and Ponybooru) while Rainbooru is using it's own thing written from scratch by the owner.

>>274842
>>274843
I was thinking more in terms of moderation, goals, why it wouldn't die off, etc. Ponybooru died off. I'd really like another alternative to derpi to be popular but derpi is so big and I don't think being able to post nazi horses will be enough of a draw to support a competitor. Especially when its between you guys, rainbooru, and derpi. It's doubly unfortunate cause the moderation here is excellent and derpi but with this style moderation would be fantastic.

>>274844
>ponbooru died off
What makes you say that?

>>274844
Ponys are allowed, no exceptions. there will be no needless culling of something because we disagree with it or anything like that. Be a commie, be a nazi, just be a fucking pony first and don't break the law. it's also backed up by the same people who made mlpol, so it's going to be around for a long, long time.

>>274845
cause it did. It shut down and its gone now

Vito, if you are reading this thread, check to make sure that all of your uploads went through. There was a four minute period of time went the server was shut down

This is the first image posted by you after it was online,
https://ponerpics.org/images/2206

This was the last one posted before the four minute shut down
https://ponerpics.org/images/2176

>>274846
again I'm aware of that. Hence why I said derpi but with the excellent moderation style of mlpol. I'm just saying if nobody uses it it won't matter. I guess if it isn't going anywhere it will at least always be a reliable image dump

>>274847
You're thinking of ponibooru. Ponybooru is at 22k images uploaded and flourishing, with many of the anti-censorship pledge artists being active there.

>>274850
ah yes I meant type ponibooru

>>274844
Our initial goal was to host the images and communities from Derpibooru that are most vulnerable to being wiped off of that site.

There have been complaints about Derpibooru moderation for years, and our goal is to have a much more limited moderation and greater freedom for users.

>>274836
btw, as you released the source code, now anyone can add some ip logger or something like this, and it will not look suspicious

>>274852
>>274846
Well good luck. Your goal is noble and just

Every image tagged "Aryanne," "mlpol," or "laisse fair capitalism" has now been uploaded to PonerPics from Derpibooru
https://ponerpics.org/

>>274829
Added ability to directly get URLs from a tag.

https://mega.nz/folder/6F4wgCYC#HkhcVxuqdaxtWxlv01UaMQ

New Ponybooru rules issued, especially on taking down art.

>>274874
I have to say I do like the DNP setup they've got, it's not all-or-nothing like DB's policy.

>>274865
Wow, thank you.
Over 9,000 uploads yay!

>>274651
Cry moar Niggel.
>>274672
As far as errors go I've noticed that remote link fetching is entirely broken for both reverse search and uploading, which is a bit annoying but I'm guessing it's a similar thing to why it hasn't been re-implemented here either.

>>274628
Noice.

>>274903
>Remote link fetching is entirely broken for both reverse search and uploading
Can you elaborate?

>>274906
If you try to fetch an image from a link, it will fail to retrieve it entirely and you'll just get that default image icon.

>>274907
I've reproduced the error. We see this, and will try to fix the issue

So ponerpics is broke or something?
>Thumbnails not yet generated
Basically this for 20 pages

>>274909
Is there an existing archive of metadata that can be used to restore Commie-DNP content or should we be running around trying to get copies of it right now? I ask because the value of the DNP'd art right now is in the tags, rather than the images themselves (which are archived in multiple locations to my knowledge).

An unrelated site policy suggestion: in response to a DNP or copyright takedown, I suggest that the page, comments, and tags be left up, and only the image and thumbnails being replaced with a generic "image removed due to artist's request" image and thumbnail. This will comply with existing legal requirements, as the artist has no legal right to demand a takedown of the associated tags or comments, without disrupting the archival quality of tags and comments, and keeping more data around that you don't legally have to throw away can only be a good thing.

>>274923
No. Content is simply being uploaded faster than thumbnails can be generated, which is just what happens when you try to upload 1600 images an hour. Type in a tag, and you will see that the vast majority of content on the site has already generated thumbnails. The images in the first few pages are the most recently uploaded, and they will generate thumbnails soon.

>>274924
Somewhere, likely. However, if it is on derpibooru it can be mass uploaded now.

>>274925
This is not a bad idea, if images must be taken down for DNP. However, as I have access to legal researching tools, I think I will want to formulate my own opinion on the requirements of the DMCA before adopting a firm policy.

>>274924
Derpi's database dumps, pre-takedown, definitely contain all that. I grabbed a 28 June dump, which was before most of the anti-nazi takedowns came in. I am also certain there are tons of people who have older dumps, and/or might have even been scraping the website.
Plus I don't know what's left in the database after takedown - the tags could still be there even then. Might be worth checking.

wow mlpol
very impressive work, both this new gift of a fandom image site, as well as this entire board you've got running here
had no idea you guys were skill chugging along
long live ponies
long live the milkmare of trottingham

>>274924
If you want to work on importing before they're gone from Derpi, I've attached a list of URLs to art by DNPd artists. As far I can tell the majority is still up at the moment due to the backlog of DNPs. This list was generated from a list of artists someone posted in the /mlp/ Derpi alternative thread. There are around 32k URLs inside.

>>274929
Derpibooru puts tags like "OP is a duck" and "drama bait" on art the leftists don't like. They don't enforce their rules against tag vandalization (calling someone a fag in the tags) against lefties so there are probably some spicy memes with those tags.

I keep getting "Error 513 : Request entity too large" when trying to import my stuff from Derpi/Ponybooru.
Is a 15Mo webm too big ?

>>274949
thanks fren

>>274968
>>274968
so basically this was fixed by derpibooru's latest code update, however we pulled code from before this. so as a result we're now trying to merge our changes with theirs, it'll take a few days but it's definitely doable. sorry for the inconvenience

>>274971

Atlas; with all due respects, you might want to hold off on implementing this update until its clear this does not include sabotage to give faggots like byte a hidden backdoor key or includes general intentional performance decreases. Especially if this was uploaded after the lügenpresse articles. Remember who you are dealing with here. These kikes try to keep a quasi-monopoly together.

>>274976
This is exactly why we didn't just pull it and copy the changes over right away.

FUCK YOU INTERNET!

IF YOU'RE DUMB ENOUGH TO POST A NAZI HORSE THIS WEEKEND, YOU'RE A BIG ENOUGH SCHMUCK TO GET SENT TO THE FUCKING MOON!

BAD ARTISTS, POSTS THAT GET DELETED, NAZIS!

IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO FIND A FREE SPEECH ON DERPI, YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!

IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT YOU'RE SUCH A STUPID MOTHERFUCKER THAT YOU'LL FALL FOR THIS BULLSHIT GUARANTEED!

IF YOU FIND A BETTER BOORU: SHOVE IT UP YOUR UGLY ASS! YOU HEARD US RIGHT: SHOVE IT UP YOUR UGLY ASS!

BRING YOUR ART, BRING YOUR FOALS, BRING YOUR WAIFU, WE'LL FUCK HER! THAT'S RIGHT WE'LL FUCK YOUR WAIFU!

BECAUSE AT DERPIBOORU, YOU'RE FUCKED SIX WAYS FROM SUNDAY!

TAKE A HIKE TO DERPIBOORU.ORG!

HOME OF CHALLENGE SHITPOSTING, THAT'S RIGHT, CHALLENGE SHITPOSTING. HOW DOES IT WORK?

IF YOU CAN SHITPOST FOR SIX MINUTES STRAIGHT AND NOT GET BANNED, WE'LL MAKE YOU A MOD.

DON'T WAIT, DON'T DELAY, DON'T FUCK WITH US OR WE'LL RIP YOUR NUTS OFF!

ONLY AT DERPIBOORU.ORG, THE ONLY BOORU THAT TELLS YOU TO FUCK OFF.

HURRY UP, ASSHOLE!

THIS EVENT ENDS THE MINUTE YOU WRITE US A DNP AND IT BETTER NOT BOUNCE OR YOU'RE A DEAD MOTHERFUCKER.

GO TO HELL.

DERPIBOORU.ORG!

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>>275030
ponks bumpin

Just letting everyone know we have a privacy policy up on https://ponerpics.org/pages/privacy it reflects our continued commitment to keeping our users safe and free from doxxing
let freedom ring bois

I've been reading the dumpsterfire thread that is Raptorshy posting on 4chan. Its like what the fuck. Are people really this bent out of shape about a fucking nazi pony? You'd think these people are literally trying to prevent the holocaust themselves the way they act. Atlas and you mods are the heroes we don't deserve. I was wrong to ever be skeptical about the severity of the situation.

>>275038
Keep up the good work.

>>275039
Thats just it, they think they are preventing a holocoast. "Neva anudah shoah goy. you cant have nothin!"

>>274871
Added a link fixer and tag blacklists.

https://mega.nz/folder/bZhz1LpL#_IzthjLUabCIVfqKLxUW8A

>>274971
>>274978
It's not an emergency, just wanted to know if that was a bug or if I was doing something wrong with the import.

Good luck, and Godspeed

Question regarding PonerPics: Does the site check for duplicate files on upload? I'm assuming yes, but thought I'd ask.

>>275112
Yes.

>>275118
Good to hear. Seems like the site's missing some of my uploads, probably due to how much stuff is going up right now, so I may just do a second pass through my list.

>>275119
The standard delay is 3 minutes, which seems to be what it is running at now. On rare occasions it can back up several minutes. If it never loads, please tell us.

>>275121
Something seems to be up. Last upload was 35 minutes ago. Can confirm script is still working as Ponybooru and Rainbooru seem to be receiving the submissions.

>>275122
And the tags being uploaded are not already on PonerPics?

Might the script not work if you timed out of your login and have to sign back in?

>>275123
I might have to check the tags. The list of URLs i'm currently going through is the list of DNP artists someone posted a while back. I don't think login is the issue, the script uses the API key.

>>275126
No, that just might be it. We have another bot that is uploading from that list

>>275127
Checking a couple images and it seems somebody else has beat me to it. Maybe they started on the list I posted. In any case it would seem things are working as intended. Guess I'll have to check the artist numbers at the end to see how well it went.

With lotus posting pics about 1 post per second. and having posted 27k pics, out of 32k total. I have to ask, are you using a script or just manually using the basic importer?

>>275175
I can confirm that lotus is 100% downloading every image manually and then uploading them all manually
he's just really really fast

>wholesome filter spoilers lesbian
>gay is okay
heh

it's kinda fun just looking at the total images of the site and spamming f5 to watch the number go up in real time. It's really impressive to see the number just keep going up almost every second.

ponerpics has 32k pics right now, rainbooru has at most 24k pics the most recent post has that number and they definatly deleted a fair portion of all their pic . In only three days ponerpics is already much larger than it's natural competitor.

Three fucking days and we have more than out done a website that has existed for over 2 years.

>>275177
Updated

>>275178
I know right? It's almost mesmerizing

>>275179
In fairness to Rainbooru, they are experiencing a little server trouble right now and will be back to mass uploads soon.

Also, with "everything" ponerpics is at 43,000

>>275178
Looking at all these old pics is giving me an odd nostalgia.

>>275182
It's only backed up like that because of the rate of uploads. There's still ~38,000 images with loaded thumbnails on the site that show up in searches.

Is there a way to mass upload? I got some 2k pictures or something.

I must say, whoever's decision it was to make webm thumbnails on Ponerpics like they used to be on Derpi, they are an absolute genius and I love them.

>>275185
What if the thumbnails were even smaller and lower-quality images stretched out to the needed size? Would that help things?

I like the idea of creating a replacement for derpibooru or, at very least, a capable competitor.
I could provide ~19k images, saved moslty from derpibooru, if you guys need more content. Just not sure how tagging works for mass uploads and how ponerpics handles duplicates (in case something that i have is already uploaded).

>>274853
he should released it at GitHub, Gitlab etc.

Link Validation codes still utilize the DERPI- prefix.
Not overly important, but I found it mildly amusing. Might want to eventually fix that though, lol

>>275194
Unfortunately I don't think there is for single images. Keep onto them, as you never know what could be missing from databases or Derpibooru.

>>275195
Thanks.

>>275198
We are looking into a means of uploading that bypasses thumbnail generation.

>>275301
Ponerpics has two methods for handling duplicates: a reverse search feature to check for a duplicate before you upload, and an automatic rejection of duplicate images after you've checked upload. We think that we've found a way to get a sufficient image inventory, but it's entirely possible that you have many images that were never on Derpibooru or otherwise missing.

>>275321
We'll add that to the list

having trouble signing back in onto a different device

>>275334
Both the email and the password must be exactly the same. When you get back to your original device, change the password and verify that what you think you typed in as your email is actually what you think it is.

>>275335
changing password still doesnt help, ive double checked email and password still nothing

>>275343
Send an email to [email protected] your username

PonerPics will be making some modifications to our servers and databases. PonerPics will go offline briefly today, and will be moved to a server with lower speed for what we estimate to be three or four days, after which we will move back to the operating server.

We ask that those doing mass, automated uploads of art from Derpibooru to PonerPics to stop now. It is no longer necessary, and may create problems when the databases are merged at the end of this period.

>>275086
Update to the Derpibooru Bulk Importer
v1.4

This fixes an issue importing images without a source URL.

https://mega.nz/folder/aNwmzCaL#iQm2wdIYJL7V-zY3RtesVQ

Revised:

We are on the same server as before. You can upload to your heart's content. We are attempting to bypass the uploading process altogether by downloading the Derpibooru database, and if that succeeds then new uploads may be duplicates or erased altogether. Please keep uploading pictures that are not on Derpibooru, and mark them with special tags like "not on Derpibooru" so we can transfer them if we succeed.

i dont know if anyone is doing bulk loads; but i want to make a recommendation archiving the pictures of bronyworks.
he creates real world military adaptions of mlp vectors. recently he created a lot of german soldier ponies and i fear he will soon get backlash for that.

>>275511
He was one of the first artists I bulk imported

>>275534

i must have reoeatedly spelled his nametag wrong but i got him now.
thank you.

https://ponerpics.org/search?page=14&sd=desc&sf=created_at&q=artist%3Abrony-works

PonerPics still does not have a firm DNP policy. Right now, only a single artist has even asked (Badumsquish, who wants all of his feedback on his art on a single site. He's been pretty polite).

We would like feedback on this issue, as it's turning out to be more controversial than I thought it would be.

Possible options include:
Honoring all DNPs
Honoring all DNPs that aren't virtue signalled on twitter before hand
Honoring DNPs based upon content, with DNPs not honored for Aryanne
DMCA notice only

And so forth, with any amount of nuance, like making take down requests harder.

strawpoll
https://strawpoll.com/67vob9wyr

>>275704
The way I see it:

>honour DNPs that aren't virtue signalled
This will lead to poor enforcement and drama. Some cases are definitely clear-cut, but there will always be edge cases that will leave everyone angry. What if Dilarus submits a DNP despite never tweeting about ponerpics? He made a big stink about DNPing Ponybooru, and of course he's been virtue signalling nonstop about the Derpi situation; will that count or not? Now what if an artist is reasonable but uses Twitter as their main platform and, when they decide to DNP, just post a PSA to all their followers to inform them. Will you be able to judge that it's not "virtue signalling"?
>honouring DNPs based on content
That seems like a great way to scare people off drawing Aryanne. If someone is fine with not DNPing the policy won't be useful. If someone thinks they might like to DNP, then they're basically gonna either stew in indignation, or avoid drawing Aryanne outright, to avoid the risk of a potential DNP not being fully honoured. And people who have hardline ideological stances might get angry, even if they never intended to DNP.

So the choice seems to me to really be between accomodating artists, and being an archive. My personal advice would be to go a similar route to Ponybooru: honour DNPs, attract artists. But keep up the metadata of images taken down, and if possible let people make posts for DNPed artists that simply link back to the original source. (And ideally you could store the art on your servers for backup and archival, "just in case", but without displaying it on the website.)

I'm saying this because Ponybooru has flip-flopped a few times. They seem to be on the right track now, but Zizzy is Zizzy and who knows whether he'll just fuck up again one day. An alternative would be good. Meanwhile, we've got Rainbooru for archiving, and additionally Twifag has said that Twibooru will go up soon and will ALSO be focused on archiving. And mind you, neither Rainbooru nor Twibooru will honour DMCA notices, so if you want to be another archival-focused booru, "DMCA takedown only" already makes you strictly inferior to them, so you'd need to start by moving hosting to a copyright-lax country. I think it's best to have two of each, than three archive boorus and only one that caters to artists.

Twibooru doesnt have a single leaked g5 fan art. How is that? Why we should suffer while they're not?

I call for derpi importing restriction. To preserve the legacy of ponerpics and secure the existence of our cultural inheritance we must end with uploading from derpibooru unless it's OP's own intention. Or not. I'm just a grumpy idiot. I can sure filter g5 tags out and be happy.

>>302548
Ponies are allowed, despite how awful it may be. Just like the degenerate shit is kept on ponerpics despite how gross it is, because the goal is not the virtue of the images, but rather that it is pony content. Deleting the art would be against the whole concept of forming ponerpics, a response to the deletion of Aryanne and the censorship of those opposed.

If we deleted gen 5, should we then delete all of Pony Life? How about gen 1-3? Why keep the degenerate images of gen 4? Why keep pictures that promote communism? In any case, even if you define a hard line of what is kept and what is deleted, people will be upset when the alternative is to just filter it out yourself or just allow it to be, and like the good art that comes out of the disaster rather than nuke it all.

Im not updated on this stuff but since Derpibooru hasnt done a complete purge on right-wing content yet, is it because too many bronies are redpilled on censorship and theyre worried? Also a bummer that so many alt boorus had to be born and Its hard to decide which one to choose.

>>302584
I dont know either. But.
One could assume, given the fandom flash-mobbing into an anti-censorship artpack/campaign against censorship, including countless DNP requests, that they a complete right-wing purge was determined to be a pyrrhic victory at best, and suicide at worst.

>>302584
It's because the staff there are spineless attention whore cronies. They'll rugsweep, they'll try to keep everyone complacent to hold what little power they have, but they won't actually act in EITHER direction, instead being content with sinking into the pit little by little, one unchallenged Patachu and swiftly deleted post about derpi/fur merger after another.
>>302548
Twibooru doesn't have leaked G5 arts because it STILL doesn't have an automatic uploader and nobody has bothered putting any up yet.

>>302593
Wait. So porter is not a ponerpics user but rather a porting bot? Wait. Porter. Like, porting, port. Porter.

damn it. Someone on 4chan said he's porter and we talked for a while. I feel like such an idiot now.

>>302640
Porter votes and comments, so he is a user, but just might be using a bot to upload constantly from other boorus so there is always fresh content.

Bump. I'm glad Ponerpics doesn't have any rules against downvoting. DB was like a police state in banning you for "not filtering" or for downvoting something the staff liked.
Sadly no system is perfect, and a major drawback is how 3 or 4 people are committed to downvoting almost every >nohooves picture that's uploaded, whether that be anthro, EQG, or humanized. I'm no fan of anthro, and I keep it spoilered by default, but it's been wearing thin on me because I feel like I should check every anthro pic to see if it "deserves" the downvotes. I've ended up liking anthro more because of this, because unless if it's SFM, fetish trash, or just low quality I upvote it to counter the haters. People aren't going to stop making anthro/EQG/human art anyway, so it's worth separating the wheat from the chaff by downvoting only bad/degenerate art. I can only ask in a nice way but I'm sure it's been annoying others too.

>>305594
Why don't you like SFM?
Is it because posing doll-like models is braindead easy and it only counts as art once high-effort poses and advanced lighting and fancy "foreshortening and perspective makes this look bigger than that because of intentional symbolism" camerawork is involved?

>>305596
yeah, posing dolls is easy, but it doesn't even look decent half the time. At least look for the stuff made in blender if you want something with alright looking production value as opposed to GabeN's spaghetti-filled replacement for gmod except with infinitely less uses and updates.

>>305596
>>305606
SFM can be amazing if used right. I know some people who have created some good stuff with it, see >vid related. This is even more impressive and had inspired the maker of that vid to learn to use it: https://youtu.be/FE_LIafxvH4

Yet you hardly see any of this in the pony community, it's always some sexual trash of variable degeneracy, ranging from posing nude females to futa and worse. Occasionally you get music videos and the like featuring pony models, but the ponies almost always look flat, dull and unexpressive compared to hand-drawn counterparts. Don't blame the program, blame the people who make and consume this garbage.

>>305609
The people are partly to blame, don't get me wrong. However, this is more the perspective of somebody who has also seen the cool stuff that SFM can do and yet has also had the ability to look behind the curtain and see that it's an absolute nightmare to work with to accomplish even some of the simplest of things. The people who know how to use it can make art with it, but those who don't often aren't willing to learn much because of how backwards it can be sometimes, so it's often not worth it to try learning just to make it look better if it can still look "good enough." A lot of this could be solved if valve actually updated it and added more materials to it every now and then (maybe once or twice a year alongside tf2's holiday updates), but that would require valve to do something other than manage steam, dota and counterstrike. In conclusion, I'm not really blaming the program so much as I'm blaming the people who refuse to make the program better.

>>305615
I definitely agree. I've heard a lot of complaints about it. But getting back to my previous point, downvoting pieces because "anthro = bad" or "nohooves = bad" is plain silly. It buries works that are qualitatively superior (such as Baron Engel's sketches) and makes it difficult to find them vs. pieces that actually deserve downvoting. I, like any sensible person, prefer ponies as ponies, but if you're going to apply a blanket judgement on an entire style then just hide it completely. It wouldn't be necessary to make an entreaty if we had more users, but with so few members just three or four people can screw with the trending system heavily.

>>305630
And I completely agree on the point of people downvoting for the sake of it. It's not representative, but unfortunately it's not exactly something we can stop people from doing. if it's really that much of a problem though, then why not just sort by new and pick out the things that you like along the way? that's what I do, at least.

>>305631
>and I forgot to address the actual problem like a retard
we can't really stop them from disliking what they want, and while we can try to alleviate it by liking what they don't that's actually good, it's just going to be annoying to try to play catch-up.
>insert sorting my new comment

>>305630
The many disgusting "varieties" of oh-so-modern anthro shit serve no purpose other than to be horfed down by clueless idiots, or, better yet, discarded as the trash it became considering the furniggerfags decided their opinion on (((art))) was the only one that mattered. Fortunately that opinion can be treated with the same disregard as one would have by flicking a dead fly off their jacket. The solution is obvious: modern anthro, no matter how """tasteful""" one slumbrain moron decrees it to be, is beyond all redeemable worthiness and should be nuked by using the relevant -'s. Regardless of that problem, Baron Engel (like most closeted furfag artistes) is a cuckboi that tries to toe the line between selling his work to less closeted furfags while not pissing off the people that prefer their pure, unspoiled fourhooves.

>>305638
I hate anthroshit as much as the next guy, but I think it would be better to allow all content. A lot of anthro artists are also pony artists, and you want artists frequenting the site if you want the community to thrive. The latter is important, because the site needs to develop an adequate tagging/rating community to be worth using.

>>305655
Makes sense. Downvoting all anthro art solely for being anthro art, regardless of quality... That's the kind of behaviour I'd expect to see from a salty redditor who spends days stalking someone and downvoting all their posts just to feel like they're winning something

>>305665
Shut up Nigel

>>305636
Yeah, I figured this would be a response. You're doing nothing but wasting people's as well as your own. It's become a habit of mine to upvote every anthro piece that's not awful, even works I normally wouldn't like, just to balance out your hateboner. Learn some nuance and I wouldn't have to keep doing this.

>>305665
Shut up Nigel

I'm not sure whether to ask this here or make a thread on PonerPics, since there seems to be several development-related threads that have gone ignored for more than 6 months.

Is development on the site still progressing? Why are there still so many duplicate images between Porter and the Derpi Importer bot? I thought there was some sort of automatic duplicate scanner that was working on it.

>>305987
>Is development on the site still progressing?
Yes, albeit slowly

>Why are there still so many duplicate images between Porter and the Derpi Importer bot?
When images are imported by means of the Derpibooru Importer, you can either force all images to merge - which is non-preferred, as it would cause images uploaded by the artist to be lost, and itself may be a problematic process - or you can simply upload the new set and merge them later.

I'm not sure what the duplicate scanner is. You are either thinking of an automated reporter (which is working), or an improvement to the "Porter" bot's de-duplication, which I think has been improved.

>>305665
Go hang yourself, Niggel.

>>305667
The nuance of what, you being an appeasing shitheel and refusing to draw a line? Okay boomer, that isn't remotely amusing.

Site is down.

>>307613
I confirm.

It's back!

Ponerpics throws an error at me when I try searching by uploading a photo.

>>307673
I get that too occasionally. I think it's when an image is above a certain filesize or sonething.