I like the idea too, as well as the first pic.
shit idea. the only thing trying to make her into a 'hate symbol' will do is reinforce that its a good idea for hasbro to kill applejack and make her into a nigger. this is an old ass meme and only normals and furfags found out about it now.
They are already replacing her. They are already cemented in the idea that she is a hick and needs to be weeded out. She is already cast as a nigger. Any backtracking of the casting won't change her replacement as a city thot from a rough background. The left will march on regardless if you want to pander to them. And how is making memes about this a shit idea? This is going to be fun.
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And then you'll realise she's already been pozzed because Haber went hard for implying she was gay with Rainbow Dash, and the shipfags have taken it as irrefutable canon, which is a significant chunk of the people you could even target with this, no one else gives a fuck about ponies in 2020.
No, the show and its characters got fucked over far too much for it to be considered nationalist anymore, it best serves as an example of marxist subversion rather than an ideal.
If that's your head-canon, that's your business. People see what they want to see I guess.
I don't, I gave up on the show a long time ago, but many, many, many other people do view it as canon, which would interfere with making Applejack a hate symbol.
>>260451>I'm not the devil, I'm just his advocate
Those same people saw it as canon before the loose reference was made. Your point? Their minds were made up long ago. People have socialism as head-canon to save all western economies. You're not making headway here.
And instead of changing their association with the character and reclaiming the show, you just want another leftist cesspool. You ought to know by now that if something is racist now, it isn't touched no matter what it was. Look at ok sign. It gets people kicked out of stadiums, fired from jobs, and become outcasts. There is only so much they can do to stop us before they have to drop it unless they want to be racist too.
>>260452>>260453>Y-You're a devils advocate! That means I'm r-right and you're wrong!
Fuck off, cunt. My point is that they're entrenched, have word of god on their side and the show is long over with only the pozzing in the comics left. I think it's unsalvageable and that effort would only be wasted on trying to make it something it hasn't been in years.
The difference between MLP and other hate symbols like Pepe and the ok sign is that one of these is part of an IP held by a jew controlled multinational filled with diversity hires and the other two are a fucking frog that feels good about pissing with his pants down and a hand signal. MLP is lost, it has been for a long time, and I just don't see the point in trying to salvage it, there's practically no fucking ground to stand on in defense of it anymore, Hasbro can just insert marxist shit on the fly while we'll be doing mental gymnastics to keep up. It's an unwinnable prospect and I think it serves better as it is, something pure that they dirtied with progressivism.
The fuck are you talking about? You already have to mental gymnastics by being here on MLPol. We embrace the show. Who the fuck cares if there are fags out there ruining shit? They have taken everything you love already. Name something and it is already gay and terrible now. Fuck off back to the dead lands of the other chans if you hate this place so much on the very thing we are founded upon.
It is actually retarded that instead of fighting you are saying to have some kind of nostalgia of them fucking us over. Fuck no. What kind of mindset even is that? Pepe is actually canonically dead from the comics because racism. Still being used. Normies a ton use it too, but regardless, still used. Guess we better tell them all he is dead canonically and to stop using him. The person that owned Pepe was a liberal cuck and thus you can't use pepe... what even is this logic?
The only thing wrong here is your logic. We have the power to reclaim it all and the biggest obstacle to that goal isn't the leftist or the jews, it is people like you that could help if you just gave a fuck. But instead you watch it all fade away and it gives you a tingly feeling that it was once something goo but it bad now so fuck it I guess.
No. Even if I am alone to do it all, I am going down swinging. But I don't think I will be alone. I think others will see the benefit of continuing in the face of all the voices telling us to give up. It is not unwinnable. You just have to try. Join us or wallow in your defeat.
Are they any more entrenched than we are? Perhaps some pozzed artists are (see >>260362) but they're not at all organized like we are, nor do they even like
Applejack for who she is. If the normies sob "b-but Applejack is g-gay!" just respond "I don't care what you think.">have word of god on their side
Remember how Matt Furie tried to kill Pepe and sue those who used him? Once a character enters the public consciousness, even the writers lose control. (((Haber))) desperately trying to undermine Applejack is laughable on the scale of Rowling's revisions to "canon," except even more so because it wasn't Lauren Faust who sent those tweets.>the show is long over with only the pozzing in the comics leftBecause
the show is over it's impossible for the writers to do anything to "show those racist nazis" and there is still a strong remnant of a fanbase. So what if a soft-canon comic that was originally good debases itself? Creators draw their own comics.
Aryanne original art was all about watersports.
Pepe was just a random comic character, wojak was a background character on a comic
Just because something is not perfect doesn't means it can't be fixed.
What's up with you anon, chan culture is mostly doing shit just to see what happens.
Plus shitstorms is how history is made.
Do you notice your defeatist attitude?
/mlpol/ keeps its steady course and the faggotry around can be damned.
I don't have to mental gymnastics shit. I browse here for politics and horse content, not official content which I dropped years before /mlpol/ was even thought of. If you embrace the show, you're embracing something that turned to zogshit.>Waaah, you must hate MLPOL if you won't be my personal army!
You're a fucking nigger, you dopey cunt. Not everything that gets posted on this board is gonna be a gold idea, and this one is particularly shit for reasons I've already gone over. Quit your fucking whinging. Pepe was way out of that cuck's control before /pol/ ever got its hands on it, by the way, it was public domain and he never had the clout or reach to shut /pol/'s use of Pepe down, this is an entirely different beast.>it is people like you that could help if you just gave a fuck.
This isn't helping, this is fighting over a niche that barely anyone gives a fuck about anymore, my efforts are best spent elsewhere, yours too. I've said my piece, made my arguments, so whatever, make of them whatever you want, I doubt this'll even go anywhere, forced memes never do.
You're right about one thing>we
But the slaver Applejack meme did
make it to the front page of know your meme. So clearly something has worked
>>260467>want horse content>unofficial horse content shows up>shut it down, officially it is gay now>doesn't want official content
Please make up your mind.
>>260467>If you embrace the show, you're embracing something that turned to zogshit.
I think everyone here can agree anything past season 2,3 or 4 is not canon.>forced memes never do.
not a meme>this one is particularly shit for reasons I've already gone over.
This is not an argument.
instead of addressing the counter arguments anon made, you're just claiming "I already told you why its a bad idea, im right you wrong"
Honestly, ill give you a 3/10, you suck at this.
Confess, you're shilling to dissuade the horsefuckers. Aren't you?
Okay, let me condense my whole problem with this into a single sentence. You don't 'organise' to make memes, you just fucking make them and see if they take off.
OP didn't make any of these, he's just asking to see if other people will make them for him so he can feel like an edgy instigator. He's such a lazy fucking faggot he can't even open MSpaint and make a mouse drawing of Applejack lynching ziggers. Faggots like AnonTheAnon are the folks that start wide reaching memes like these, do you fucking think he sat around in a thread asking for permission to start? Or that he broached the subject seeing if other drawfags would take the bait? Fuck no. He did it himself and the meme sprang up purely by accident.
What OP's suggesting is Hillary paying shills to flood /pol/, or Mike Bloomberg buying memes, or Elon Musk pretending he's a hip young kid in with meme culture to sell his fag carts.>>260473>He disagrees with me, he must be a shill>He disagrees with me, he must be a nazi>He disagrees with me, he must be a _____
You disagree with me, you must be a faggot.
>>260474>He disagrees with me
To disagree is valid, but the dubious part is your intentions.
You are doing your best to stop /mlpol/.
How about it's ok to be white? Everyone just sort of did it with no organization or planning. People individually came up with it's ok to be white on their own and then did the campaign on that day. It all makes sense now.
>>260474>Okay, let me condense my whole problem with this into a single sentence. You don't 'organise' to make memes, you just fucking make them and see if they take off.
Well, here you have a clear and reasonable point.
I'm not doing shit but saying it'd be a waste of time, my word stops absolutely nobody else from doing anything. you seem afraid of any kind of dissent which makes ME question YOUR intentions.
And here's my fucking credentials, youngfags, I fucking dare you to find this screenshot elsewhere. While I'm at it, this place is nothing like it was on the first day.
>>260474>I can use logical fallacies all I want, but when you do it means you're wrong>>260480>thinks a screenshot = credentials
Zald has been here a long time too
Sounds fun, but **remembering anything past season 1 is painful and I don't feel like trawling through the show again for some Applejack memes.**
If you want to prove me wrong go ahead, make a meme, I'll wait.
>>260480>you seem afraid of any kind of dissent
Sometimes shilling larps as dissent, you can't blame me for to try to preempt it.
On the other hand, credentials accepted.
R for respect.
Look through the thread, I've done it several times cunt, without even having to make a meme. Maybe if you were less concerned with stroking your ego you'd have noticed.
You've made image macros, a meme is a viral idea. Learn the fucking difference.
No, I haven't used images at all. I have a semi-corrupted harddrive and can't access my images for the time being, but that hasn't stopped me from making you look like a petulent child with an axe to grind, acting like he's superior and above everything while lurking the site for damn near 3 years and yet still remaining an insufferable and unconstructive asshole.
Like I said, I'll wait for the memes to be made, but I'm telling you, they won't have any real kind of reach.
All this time, and you haven't learned a goddamn thing about metrics. What's your
definition of 'reach' then?
Still not enough.
Going by OP's ambitions? Literally the next Pepe, of which Applejack has zero god damn chance. Comparatively few people give a fuck about pastel horses anymore, and even the people she'd be largely representing don't give a fuck, if they ever did to begin with. I said it was niche earlier and this is what I meant, ponies aren't the world shaking juggernaut it used to be. It was a fad, and the fad passed. Effort is better spent memeing the US elections than this tripe.
>>260493>AJ as the next pepe
As a meme, I agree>AJ as the next coopted hate symbol
Yeah, your argument dies there
I'll go a step further. Yes, Pepe was used as a meme long before it was coopted to butt-bother leftists, but lets not pretend there weren't fucking threads dedicated to refining and developing Pepe as a hate symbol, on 4chan and elsewhere.
In precisely this sort of thread.
But if you disagree, you're welcome to fuck off to whatever hole you dig yourself in during your lengthy and observable lapses in posting.
I tackled that one too, all it'd take is fresh pozzed content from hasbro to keep any memes made dead in the water. They're going to do it regardless, true, and that leaves us with little material to work with. If you'd watched the show, you'd know they neglected AJ to the point where's she's just a bitchy, sarcastic dickhead, so basically your typical suburban sheila. She's not even the traditional mare she was in the earlier seasons anymore, so what fucking memes can be made without them being brushed away as "Oh, but that was the OLD Applejack, the new Applejack with character development is more progressive"? Just about the only thing left of her by the end is that she loves her family, and guess what, she grew old alone and focused wholly on her career, canonically. So really there's nothing traditional left about her to even meme about, she's an ideal southerner as imagined by inner city liberals. So tell me please, what do we even have to work with that isn't outdated, if you've seen the threads about ATA's draw, you'd know she's already been brushed off as not the 'real' Applejack.>>260495
Here's your (You) you paranoid fuck. Jesus christ, you disagree with something even slightly here and it's like being on fucking Twitter. Next you'll be calling for the mods to confirm my post history just because I take my time with some of my god damn posts.
Hasbro has (and undoubtedly will) pozz even established canon (RD and the cheering episode being a perfect example). You're still missing the point.>paranoid
Oh? So you're not
a fly-by-night poster? That's funny
Anon I post when I have the time and only when I have something I think needs to be said, and I'm really starting to reconsider doing it on this site. The hypervigilance is getting ridiculous. So whatever, I guess, I'll just fuck off and leave you fags to your echo chamber and endless planning
>>260474>OP didn't make any of these, he's just asking to see if other people will make them for him so he can feel like an edgy instigator.
I'm not proposing that people do anything, I see similar qualities among Pepe, Wojak, and AJ and there's opportunity for lulz. It's an analysis of why the plantation meme hit so hard and I see further opportunity. Yes, memes can never be forced but Pepe was not a forced meme; people made art that reflected his connection to our condition.>He's such a lazy fucking faggot he can't even open MSpaint and make a mouse drawing of Applejack lynching ziggers.
Can confirm this is true.>What OP's suggesting is Hillary paying shills to flood /pol/, or Mike Bloomberg buying memes, or Elon Musk pretending he's a hip young kid in with meme culture to sell his fag carts.
Not at all, I like analyzing things related to the culture war and ponies, so combining them is just a logical step, especially when lulz can be had. Applejack is already implicitly reviled for her old-fashioned values so she–as a character we like–is already something we treasure away from the Hasbrites.>>260497>fresh pozzed content from hasbro to keep any memes made dead in the water
I really don't think so, even if there are enough consoomers to make a pozzed G5 as popular as G4 (there aren't). Their Applejack is always going to be different from /ourApplejack/, and the leap to urban ziggerdom, not to mention a totally different artstyle, makes association of the two impossible.>"Oh, but that was the OLD Applejack, the new Applejack with character development is more progressive"
You're forgetting the progressive perception of time which will always view old-Applejack as "problematic," the moreso when old-Applejack is celebrated. Also, no one can make anything but derogatory memes of the specific characteristics of nuAJ, because like you said she is watered down and has no unique appeal anymore. Memes rely on flanderization and flanderizing Applejack makes her into a "Southern saint," like in Ponyphonic's song. People who don't like "old-Applejack" would never consider her best pony anyway; those who draw her frequently tend to be anons like MKogWheel.
My bad, you're a sooper important
fly-by-night poster. I apologize for any upset I may have caused with my callous portrayal
But anon, why cant i get through your thick head that this is not a meme
Anon suggests we adopt applejack just like we adopted milo or aryanne, are any of those two memes?They are mascots
Pepe is not a meme, pepe is /pol/s little mascot, memes, artwork and reaction pics are a byproduct of said mascot.
Also i dont blame op for not posting OC, he might not be very good at drawing but had a good idea.
Plus your claims right now have nothing to do with the arguments you had with that other anon, why do you want to shut this up so hard?
He pulled oldfag rank, give him some credit.
Nigga no one should be proud to be an oldfag and mlpol is a new chan, what's the point of being an mlpol oldfag if you're a chan newfag?
Yeah, I'd argue that attempting to pull rank is the last act of a desperate position.
Oldfag is actually old
, pre-Chanology or at least long before 2016. Even being around on that momentous first day of /mlpol/ is midfag at best.>t. newfag
as someone who has been fucking around on chans since pre-2016, I can honestly say that not even from that long ago is someone an oldfag. We're all fucking newfags here, oldfags are at LEAST pre-2010.
Just to cement that point, back in 2012 i was just starting to make pony content and yes, i sucked at it
Even then i had 3 years of /b/ on me, and you know what i am?
A bloody newfag is what i am, and i dont go around swinging my chan time like it means something.
anon... they consider you their enemy, no action from you to kowtow to their delusions will change that, the only high ground is the gallows, once you are dangling on the rope being holier than thou don't expect others to look up to you and think you were right
What's she looking at? I can't quite make it out.
Taking in count how butthurt are the snowflakes, this kind of memes can trigger them badly.
>>260497>If you'd watched the show, you'd know they neglected AJ to the point where's she's just a bitchy, sarcastic dickhead, so basically your typical suburban sheila
Sure, the finale and the relevant bits before it really mixed into a giant shirstorm that ruined most of the show, but you don't exactly need the current remnant of the fandom for it to work, you can pull it off with fags who might never even see the show.
I think it's worth a shot, maybe corona should be our main focus rather than the elections, but am just some fag
What happened with AnonTheAnon now?
WELL THIS THREAD WENT TO SHIT.
Not quite, IMO it's not a time to launch new memes, juicy targets are fuzzy for the time being, and to target transvestites and SJWs is a waste. Better to wait for the right time.
This one must be preserved
Limiting to 1 pic per post artificially inflates the post count, forcing anons (especially when image dumping) to make successive posts just to share images.
I like the Idea, but It needs more Tom Sawyer