Devs Feburary 10th >Syria: SNA and Turkish army moving to Saraqib and Nayrab fronts Syrian opposition factions reportedly start an operation on Saraqib and Nairab Turkish artillery from several points in Idlib is targeting locations of the pro-Assad forces in Saraqib countryside, with dozens of projectiles pounding the pro-Assad forces to support a counter-offensive by the Syrian opposition >Iraq: Iraq Parliamentary Defense Committee: The next government will set a timetable for the departure of foreign forces The Kurdistan Region’s Peshmerga and Kurdish security forces launched a massive military operation sunday against ISIS southern Garmiyan area. >Libya: Egyptian Foreign Minister stresses at the African summit in AddisAbaba the need to prevent foreign interference in Libya >Yemen: Yemeni Houthis overlooking the city of Marib after defeating a massing of coalition forces in the area and taking control of mountain tops west of the city >Afghanistan: Russia needs "at least to get acquainted with the text of the agreement" in advance to act as a witness to the signing, Russia's special envoy on Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov says referring to US-Taliban talks
>7.13 >The warplanes target the Turkish point east of Qaminas in the eastern Idlib countryside, and preliminary information indicates that there were casualties in the ranks of the Turkish army https://twitter.com/HadiAlabdallah/status/1227230380866048000 What is the end game of all this? I'd really like to know.
>>259104 >imperial system sebastian, I... >>259099 square inch. It is unironically a unit sometimes used for pressure measurements even outside of the US.
https://twitter.com/secpompeo/status/1227245058841366528?s=21 >My condolences to the families of the soldiers killed in yesterday's attack in Idlib. The ongoing assaults by the Assad regime and Russia must stop. I've sent Jim Jeffrey to Ankara to coordinate steps to respond to this destabilizing attack. We stand by our NATO Ally #Turkey. what will they missile strike this time? and how insufferable will 4/sg/ be afterwards?
Wouldn’t it be epic if SAA just blitzed straight to the Kafr Lusin crossing and shut it for good to use as a bargaining chip against the roaches? >>259120 Why?
It's weird, i figured TF would be the ones clearing northwards from their recently captured Kafr Halab but instead it's the SAA/LDF/Republican Guard/4th div. that is clearing the outskirts of Aleppo from within. Maybe TF will move north in a day or two but for now their cutting off the M60 "highway" at Kafr Halab and threatening posture towards Atarib might have scared the factions holding the Aleppo outskirts into retreating before they get trapped. Afterall, capturing Rashidin 4 and Khan al-Asal in a single day is no small feat.
>More and more Idlib based pro-Nusra and co accounts say that militants have (had?) to withdraw from the east of the M5 due to an agreement between Erdogan and Russia. https://twitter.com/Bosni_94/status/1227305960810696704
>A Syrian was killed and another was wounded in a rare clash Wednesday between American troops and a group of government supporters who tried to block a U.S. convoy driving through a village in northeastern Syria, state media and activists reported.
>The state-run media said the killed man was a civilian. He was among residents of a village east of the town of Qamishli who had gathered at an army checkpoint, pelting the U.S. convoy with stones and taking down a U.S. flag from one of the vehicles. At that point, U.S. troops fired with live ammunition and smoke bombs at the residents, the reports said.
>A U.S. military spokesman said coalition forces conducting a patrol near Qamishli encountered a checkpoint occupied by pro-Syrian government forces. After coalition troops issued a series of warnings in an attempt to de-escalate the situation, the patrol came under small-arms fire from unknown individuals, coalition spokesman Myles Caggins said.
>“In self-defense, coalition troops returned fire. The situation was de-escalated and is under investigation,” he added in a statement, which did not refer to any deaths.
>>259292 I think they control parts or even the majority of it based on the photo uploaded but not the entirety, so yeah let's wait. If they can grab the Regiment 46 base tomorrow the rest of the area between Kafr Halab and Aleppo on the M60 road will fall automatically. Will be interesting to see where they go next, north from Kafr Naha and blocking Highway 62 (Afrin road) around Hawar/Anjarah or doing some absolute madlad shit like taking Atarib and going to Darat Izza/Regiment 111 (contrary to the topo map there are roads leading there without going into the Dana Valley).
>>259296 I suspect SAA controlling Sheikh Barakat mountain would be too big of a deal for the roaches to accept though. Too strong of a position towards the border crossings.
>>259296 I think they’ll go Reg 46, then threaten (not capture, threaten) Tuqad/Anjarah, then make their move on the Anadan plains from all directions (especially from the west) as the Jihadists flee when they see the SAA are about to encircle them and there’s still a road open for them to flee.
>>259296 Though them making absolutely no attempt to clear out the Anadan Plains has me a bit worried that the SAA will stop after establishing a small buffer zone around the M5.
>>259321 A frontline based on the M5 is eons more secure than what was there previously. It will be spring soon, so good defensive structures are necessary
New confirmed gains in Aleppo: Cordoba Hills, Al-Rahal Association, Kafr Jum Sharqiyah, Monte Carlo farms, Electricity Association Suburb, Sheikh Rahilah, Khan Thouman silos, Police station (Ahmed Al-Fej police school), Al-Mughayer and Lawyers Association. https://twitter.com/Bosni_94/status/1228066437786415105 Only thing i can't find is the Lawyers Association and Zuhrat Mada'in is unknown, probably a wrong name.
>>259352 >SAA / Russia opened another front against the HTŞ / FSA from Tamura and Başemre villages where HRE and the Syrian army area intersect in the south of Nubl and Zehra. The aim is to clear the Aleppo north from gangs and open the Aleppo-Nubl road. https://twitter.com/SDeniz_x/status/1228087910202736641
>>259357 To summarise: SF says rebels, Livemaps says ongoing fighting but they've coloured it for the rebels for he time being. Ebin's map and most anons on the various /sg/s says SAA.
>>259354 >>259352 Rebel supporters are saying that the SAA/HRE build-up south of Nubl and Zahraa is intended to cut off Afrin from Idlib (specifically mentions capturing Dayr Simeon and Atmeh) but that sounds way too enthusiastic and sensationalist. Capturing Shaykh Aqil mountain and Qabtian al-Jabal before meeting SAA advancing from the south on the Afrin-Aleppo M62 road and turn their attention eastwards seem more realistic.
>SAA captured Uram Al-Sugreh and the second Engineers Buildings. SAA also captured Regiment 46 Base. The Turkish army is surrounded now inside the base
>>259398 Jap. Turks get heavily involved all the sudden rusty SAA birds start falling form the skies. I thought when tursk said they'd this time truly deal with terrorists in Idlib they meant HTS TIP and frens not SAA.
>>259399 >I thought when tursk said they'd this time truly deal with terrorists in Idlib they meant HTS TIP and frens not SAA. Oh, that was a typo, they meant "make deals with terrorists in Idlib".
>>259406 I'm guessing they'll be pushing to the Anadan plain whilst SAA/HRE tries to cut the M62 Aleppo-Afrin highway. Then again, all i've seen so far is an SAA/HRE ATGM position in Bashemra getting ATGM'd and artillery/airstrikes hitting Qabtian al-Jabal so this whole cooperation might just end up being a big 'ol nothingburger.
>>259434 As far as administration goes, HTS controls all of Idlibstan. However this does not translate into actual ground control as evidenced by the SNA still being present in central Idlibstan marked by green. All in all, it’s complicated.
>>259434 To see the difference, compare Ebin and my maps. He colours anyone not HTS in green, even if they are HTS allies. I colour HTS and their allies in white. There are very few rebels who are not allies (willing or otherwise) of HTS.
>>259438 >>259434 HTS's salvation "government" rules all of Idlib, the villages in the green areas might publicly "support" NLF but there's no question who the real rulers of Idlib are. And T*rkey supports them.
>Initially, the plan was to leave a 30-20 km strip along border with Turkey. A safe zone where displaced civilains who refuse to return to government-controlled areas can stay. Now, however, the army (may) be planning to clear entier Idlib, including border line. https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1228701875693858816
If a ceasefire goes into effect after SAA takes control of the Anadan salient there was definitely a deal behind closed doors. Something along the lines of "bls let us have a buffer zone along the border and we'll give you the NW Aleppo outskirts for free". Remains to be seen if the ceasefire is forced upon Jabal Zawiya and the M-4 highway as well.
Since this offensive i can only recall one or two SVBIEDs going off at Zahra/Mahna Housing, surely the jihadists must have had more in storage on that front?!?!
>>259616 >musicians with a greater appreciation for music To be fair, that's a hezbollah nasheed and a pretty bad one at that. SAA has some pretty catchy tunes, speaking of which: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znIip3A_DiQ
>Russian military has began a mass deployment along the Aleppo-Damascus Highway on Sunday. It’s an important development because it goes against Turkey’s demand that the Syrian military completely withdraw from the areas captured in Idlib and Aleppo. https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/1229086285215797254
>>259634 Eh, I'd rather see the M-4 getting sweeped. Sure, a Daraa-Jordan border holobunga redux on the T*rkish border (when rebel supporters cried genocide on twitter because Jordan closed the border when Daraa was reconciled) would be lovely but as long as Erdomeme remains king roach Russia sees no particular benefit in starting a war over some terrorists in a cuckshed that can't reach their airbase on the coast.
>>259644 I'm kind of doubting the offensive will continue right now since it has been going on for weeks but the attempts to advance yesterday and earlier today in southern Idlib (Shaykh Damis and Rakaya around Kfar Sejena) tells me otherwise. What better time than now when the jihadists are crushed and demoralized to cut off the T*rkish supply route to Jabal Zawiya? I'm thinking a pincer move on Ariha from Saraqib capturing parts of Jabal Arabeen that overlooks the city and cutting the highway to Idlib to the north. Something like pic related. The road between Qmenas and Mastoumah would be rough so advancing from Qmenas to Musaybin before would be smarter but you get the gist.
>Several people now saying that TFSA groups are withdrawing into Efrin, away from contact with the SAA. No confirmation from that side yet. https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1229140053424852997 Mercenaries gonna mercenary, suckling on Erdomemes money bags and harassing the locals is more tempting than getting a GRAD rocket on your head i guess.
>ISIS have attacked two 5th Corps checkpoints east of al-Sukhnah. No casualties reported https://twitter.com/ProNDF/status/1229146120338669568 After seeing the aftermath of the latest attack on a checkpoint outside T3 i highly doubt there was no casualties this time. All the pics of Russian SOF and mercenaries in the Homs desert it's hard to comprehend just how ISIS can still operate there... Unless the Russians are just glorified road patrolmen like the rest of the SAA in the area...
>Some may think that the SAA is now preparing for a caesfire or some agreement. Yes, this will mostly happen, However, the SAA and its allies pushing fresh reinfroments by the hours, preparing for a larger attack even. https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1229148685306662912 Rotating the storming squads?
>>259601 >>259603 After reviewing videos of todays heavily armoured attack on Jazraya and Miznaz I can say with absolute certainty that SAA does not control Ma'arat al-Na'asan. Another detail is that HTS are operating the captured T90 on this front. The jihadists will run out of steam on this front eventually, but the town will continue to be a threat to Kafr Halab because of it's close proximity and favorable topography.
>>259727 Hmm, also grabbing Fu'ah and Kafriya as a buffer to defend Idlib from the north to please the shiites and Iran. Kafr Halab would be an excellent launch point, meanwhile taking Ariha to gain access to the highlands SW of Idlib, pincering the shit out of the city. I like it.
>>259745 >Some frustration among the local fighters that no unilateral ceasefire has been announced since there has been little troop rotation and some of these men have been fighting day and night for weeks
>>259751 I didn't believe it would be done, but if the absolute madmen take Darat Izza and T*rkey does nothing but bark, it could be done. btw Kafr Lusin crossing is just a military crossing into Idlib to avoid going through the publically known HTS controlled Bab al-Hawa (which is the real border crossing). Use Bab al-Hawa.
>>259854 >It seems as though the offensive is finished At least for Aleppo it seems, t*rks denied the 6km cuckzone proposal from Russia so it's back to politics over there. SAA gotta shift their troops and equipment to the M-4 front, should take a few days at most if the politics doesn't interfere there too. (Politics = Russia and T*rkey squabbling endlessly) >the final gif Immensely satisfying, good job!
>Erdoğan: “Operation Idlib is just a matter of time. We have discussed (Idlib) with Trump. We have shared our opinions. We won’t leave Idlib to Assad regime neither those who encourages him (Russia)” https://twitter.com/ornekali/status/1230058427046604800 >"We have completed military preparations and it's only a matter of time before we start #Idlib operation (against Syrian Army)" >His conditions remain the same >- Withdrawl of SAA to pre-offensive lines. Behind Turkish observation points >- Ceasefire, no airstrikes >Deadline time until end of February. >Otherwise a military operation could start any time after that, but not necessarily soon https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/1230058743922032640 Cringe
>>259885 kek But this is something he has direct control of and can't blame on outside forces if he backs down (then again that dastardly Gulen is still out there waiting to strike again), just what the hell is going through his head? He thinks he can force Russia to stand down and advance like he did against ISIS and SDF but without air support? Even if he managed to dissuade Russia from adhering to their principles, at most he can ground the Syrian airforce but the SAA has access to limitless ATGM supplies and actual artillery that isn't just one GRAD launcher/howitzer here and there. What an embarrassment, he's out of his damn mind.
>>259886 >he's out of his damn mind. Yes. The patterns can be understood though if you see him as desperately trying to be a Sunni Putin for scattered MB parties subbing in for Russian minorities
45 min ago Erdogan: "Turkey cannot be confined within the 780,000 km2 border. Misrata, Aleppo, Homs & Hasaka are outside our actual borders, but they are within our emotional & physical limits, we will confront those who limit our history to only 90yrs." https://twitter.com/observatoryly/status/1229718540057534465?s=21
Let's say he's posturing like this to please his voters, does he think they'll forget if he backs down? I'm losing my mind trying to figure out what he's hoping to gain if he isn't planning to fulfill his promises. Is he playing chicken hoping SAA will actually withdraw? Does he think Russia aren't ready to sit back, fight to the last syrian and claim they couldn't pull SAA back?
>>259889 The 'warning' is not to intimidate the SAA, it's to placate HTS from running with their 'Erdogan fucked us' story; which will still happen at some levels anyway.
>>259888 >desperately trying to be a Sunni Putin for scattered MB parties subbing in for Russian minorities For sure. >45 min ago What an insufferable cunt. >>259890 >placate HTS from running with their 'Erdogan fucked us' story; which will still happen at some levels anyway. But what does he gain from this? That HTS's point of view doesn't "infect" his "supporters" in Syria for a while longer? I dunno, they all know they'd be nothing without him at this point so i doubt the ones outside Idlib will rebel even if he agrees to the 6km cuckzone. There's something else going on.
>Russia: "Turkey failed to separate the opposition from the extremist jihadist faction in Idlib, and failed to secure and reopen M5 as agreed between president Putin and Erdogan" >"We will stay in contact with Turkey to avoid any escalation" https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/1230069669509230592
>>259892 >But what does he gain from this? That HTS's point of view doesn't "infect" his "supporters" in Syria for a while longer? HTS can't very well say Erdogan stabbed them in the back if Erdogan is talking about a grand offensive to pre-1967 borders. The conservation inside Idlib shifts from 'why didn't Erdogan defend the observation posts? why are we corraled outside of turkey again.' to 'phase 8 soon lads' They've fallen this for a lot.
>I dunno, they all know they'd be nothing without him at this point so i doubt the ones outside Idlib will rebel even if he agrees to the 6km cuckzone. There's something else going on. HTS has enough autonomy through Al Qaeda's parallel structures that it doesn't need to rely on Erdogan for materiel; and, if he went full Rus they would start operations in his country against him. By giving lip service, these Bashi-bazouk will fall in line in anticipation of the next movement, and re-frame their retreating and falling back as preparations for the great return of HTS control to the lost sheep of Shams. Coupling it with some superficial Turkish military action will make sure these scattered forces submit to a Turkish command and overlord instead of disintegrating into a problem in Turkey.
>>259894 >HTS can't very well say Erdogan stabbed them in the back if Erdogan is talking about a grand offensive >if he went full Rus they would start operations in his country against him But for how long can he uphold such a charade and once Idlib (or atleast the majority) is retaken by SAA what stops HTS/jihadist supporters in T*rkey from starting operations then?
I dunno, maybe you're right and Tr+Ru already agreed to the cuckzone behind closed doors hoping they'll stay content... It would definitely be easier for RuAF to assassinate the extremists in such a confined space aswell...
>>259896 > once Idlib is retaken.. what stops HTS/jihadist supporters in T*rkey from starting operations then? 1 Border will be shut. Operations around Idlib will occupy the fighters. 2 Making sure Idlib collapses north to Afrin instead of Hatay. The rugged terrain favors that Jisr-Shigour style land standism, and Afrin behind it can hold their families. 2 The idea is they go to Afringhastan and Tripoli instead, with stories about how Baba Erdogan was going to marinate, slice and dice the Nusairis but Mama Putin wouldn't let him. Saving Face. 3 After milking Idlib dry of fighters, those who resist Turkish control will be shamelessly fed to Assad in an operation human shield tier disaster.
Hmm >Erdomeme needs the hardliners to die without making it look like he's pulling the trigger >Hardliners won't banzai SAA positions without considerable TAF support Even when SAA killed TAF directly he wouldn't approve a response, instead his regime pulled SAA KIA numbers out of their ass. What if the "Operation Idlib" will be supplying HTS with loads more APCs and to support a HTS offensive with purposely inaccurate artillery fire. Maybe Russia will coordinate with SAA to give up some villages fighting a tactical retreat whilst RuAF goes ham as they've done in recent jihadi attacks on Kafr Halab. Surely there are more M113's to get rid off.
>>259898 >Border will be shut. Operations around Idlib will occupy the fighters There are tons of jihadists, supporters and recruiters in T*rkey already https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2016/03/30/turkey-detains-16-al-nusra-suspects-in-simultaneous-operations >The idea is they go to Afringhastan and Tripoli instead, with stories about how Baba Erdogan was going to marinate, slice and dice the Nusairis but Mama Putin wouldn't let him. Saving Face Fair >After milking Idlib dry of fighters, those who resist Turkish control will be shamelessly fed to Assad in an operation human shield tier disaster. Hmm yeah, see my previous post
Another interesting theory by HTS supporters: >I actually dont believe this map. Its root came from a very pro Turkish account that spread many fake Turkish propaganda >The reason this map is spread can be that Turkey says: instead of this Russian map we negotiated that Russia takes M5/M4 and rest of Idlib stays free https://twitter.com/Qalamaat/status/1229850507738599427
>>259899 As we've seen from the ANNA News report, these suicide missions are extremely costly for the jihadists but as long as they gain a village here or there the plan might work. There's the issue of non-suicidal hardliners though (the big-ups, salvation government etc, the real problem), how are they gonna get rid of those? Is the plan to weaken their muscular capacity enough so that even TFSA can take over and imprison them? Sheesh, enough speculations.
>>259900 >There are tons of jihadists, supporters and recruiters in T*rkey already. That's correct. And for Erdogan, that's not good. He needs his irregulars in theatre, not walking around galleries causing him problems. So he's got a lot to lose from angry Idlibis. As Putin said once, "It remains to be seen who is using who."
Man, the ANNA News report(s) from the M-4 is gonna be so kino, seeing the ghab plain from the east, Ariha from Jabal Arabeen, Zeyzoun, Jisr al-Shughur and finally connecting with the front on Jabal Akrad. Secondary/diversion front though? Maybe the fighting around Kfar Sejena will evolve and bear fruit? Slicing through Jabal Zawiya from Kafrumah to Ankawi in the Ghab? I doubt Latakia will see any action until the Ghab is secured (bypassing Jisr al-Shugur and taking Kabani from behind, securing Latakia then approach the city from east, south and west perhaps?). So much more interesting and harder terrain than the flat Idlib & Qinnasrin plainss.
>>260021 >Former US ambassador to Syria Robert Ford: Turkey is seeking assurances from NATO that if Russian or Syrian forces attack inside the Turkish side of the Turkish-Syrian border, then Turkey as a member of NATO can, under Article 5 of the treaty, request assistance. https://twitter.com/AliRogin/status/1230538918464032768
>Ahrar al-Sham & Jaysh al-A'fad are the ones clashing in Al Bab. Surprisingly neither Jabhat al Shamiyah, Ahrar al Sharqiyah, or Firqat al Hamza are involved this go around. https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1230568044352745472
• Trump told Erdogan that he would sanction regime, issue strong-worded statements but nothing on military support • Pentagon is wary to issue any support to Turkey due to last year incursion against SDF • Interagency work is being done https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1230595109982527510
>>260050 >Pentagon is wary to issue any support to Turkey due to last year incursion against SDF Imagine gambling on a propaganda victory that yields you desert area, strengthening the ties between your two regional foes (SAA +SDF), and losing your msot vital ally when you need him to oppose Russian aggression on your intrest. The era of Caeser strongmen is supposed to actually have Caeser-esque leadership not a watermelon seller playing HOI4 Ottoman Mod.
>>260050 >US conduct aerial patrols near Idlib as Assad's forces close in USA bombing Assad to protect literally al-Qaeda doesn't sound too foreign tbh
>One of the remaining sons of the 5th Corps boss Zaid Saleh has been wounded in Nayrab >Syrian private military contractors (mostly former Desert Hawks) have also appeared on this front. They stand out from the crowd https://twitter.com/ProNDF/status/1230883568492187649
Doc are you here? Corona is spreading here, i haven't left my home in 3 days and now it's getting worse. Is itching a sign of corona? my whole body is itching today. helb
>Syrian MoD: Any breach of the Syrian airspace will be treated as an external military aggression, and orders have been given to the air force and air defense to deal with it by the available means. https://twitter.com/Bosni_94/status/1231218278896459776 Kobra cat soon?
>>260149 >You have that many people travelling between 2 countries? I suspect superspreaders had a role to play in Iran becoming so heavily infected already. > 62 of the 87 new coronavirus cases in South Korea are connected to the Shincheonji church in Daegu. That means 244 of the 433 total cases in South Korea (56%) are connected to the church. https://twitter.com/lookner/status/1231133049271746570 This thing spreads like wildfire with a trail of gasoline.
>5th Corps storming groups to a new front under the guidance of Zaid Saleh https://twitter.com/ProNDF/status/1231253873110724608 Looks like they'll go for Jabal Zawiya to dodge the t*rkish observation forces. Kafr Nabl and/or Kfar Sejena fronts probably. Erdo: "I will meet the Russian President, German Chancellor and French President on March 5".
Turkish-Backed Jihadists Attempt To Down Russian Jet Over Idlib With MANPADS >TURKISH SOLDIERS & ALLIES TRYING TO HIT RUSSIAN SU-24 FROM INSIDE THE POST IN QIMINAS YESTERDAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipa1_k44K4Q
>>260339 Can't get the whole front from Khan Sheikhoun to Saraqib in one screenshot, so here's Khan Sheikhoun to Marat al-Numan. Can fix a Marat al-Numan to Idlib if you want. I can add the frontline or names of the villages/towns aswell if you need.
So, it seems like the plan is to reach Kafr Nabl from the south. I would've just pushed west from Kafr Rumah and created a big old cauldron but perhaps they don't want to risk getting pincered from north and south once they advance into the really mountainous parts of Jabal Zawiya? They're currently trying to encircle Kfar Sejena.
>>260366 Haven't seen anyone else claim it so it probably didn't happen. I don't really keep up that well on Yemen but there's clashes in the area though see: >>260264 and iirc the houthis were putting pressure towards Hazm from the northeast. If you're asking if there's no clashes or whatever, i can assure you there is.
I'm just gonna go ahead and presume they took Hantunin and Ruwayha as a diversion and they're not seriously going to storm the broad side of this ATGM operators wet dream.
>>260586 Thing with such an advance is, if T*rkey wants Olive Branch/Euphrates shields forces in Idlib they can just green bus them there. Once HTS are too weak, Russia will allow the border cuckzone and T*rkey will turn it into an Euphrates Shield/Olive Branch replica.
Sadly, this Nayrab fiasco might slow down the gains in southern Idlib if the reinforcements that went to Saraqib were originally destined to this front. Alternatively, the "multiple directions" promised >>260576 will be paused.
>>260595 Old school map time niggas. Dark red lines = the progress so far and approximate frontlines. Red arrows = my predicshun Unless the jihadis have a surprise in store, the Ghab plain and Jabal Shahshbo (southwestern part of Jabal Zawiya) will be empty before SAA ascend the heights and we'll see speedy gonzales gains.
>>260598 Next step, capturing the peak of Jabal Zawiya, transitioning to Jabal Arabeen and reaching Ariha. The arrows are of course extremely simplistic, predicting the exact route is impossible.
>SAA makes advances in Idlib countryside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTupa8UA2M Interesting view from Kafr Sejena at the end, the panning shot shows north-west to west. Foremost village is Ma'arr Zita (2:50) and last second is Ma`arrat Hurmah.
>Good morning, Nayrab still friendly with clashes in west. >Since yesterday & terrorists claim they took it without providing any visual confirmation, they are waging Psyop against Pro-gov supporters but in fact its back firing on them as all pro-gov supporters dont read their news. https://twitter.com/CoolHuh_/status/1232232080106545152
>The SAA launched its attack from southern Idlib beleving that HTS\\NFL will fight for these areas. This didn't happen, HTS\\NFL made a choice to sacrifice entier soutehrn Idlib to take over Saraqib, this took the army by surpise and they will most likely success in taking it. https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1232682256780623874 Oh well, SAA will recapture it with ease once they have Ariha and Arba'een.
>>260779 Afes is reportedly lost now, not looking good for Saraqib. It's gonna be easier to fight them there later instead of in the mountains now, just hope they can plug the gap soon...
>>260783 Depends on what the Turks do. They seem hell-bent on taking it and they might swarm the city with their military and force a direct confrontation to retake the city.
>>260785 Meh, keeping the M-5 cut or not only at Saraqib makes no strategic difference for the roaches and they made the decision to give away the incredibly important mountains to the south without intervening with their own troops. They're just blowing steam at Saraqib to divert attention from the fact that they're giving away the south for free.
>Idlib Police Command are going from Saraqib to the front in the next hour or so >They are fighting under the Air Force Intelligence banner https://twitter.com/ProNDF/status/1232711993309777927 The assault on the city hasn't started yet, looks like SAA are trying to strengthen the flanks with whatever they have available in the sector.
>Saraqib update: >-Duweir is nowhere near captured. >-Afis is contested. >I’m not even sure any side is inside of Afis at the moment. Both sides trading artillery and missiles https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/1232719584911876096
>>260804 They're actually present on the Jabal Zawiya front, see >>260702 from yesterday. Doubt there's any major fighting force left on the Kabani front.
Bah, Masdar used a screenshot from an old SAA video as the image of their article about a new video and i thought the screenshot was related. It wasn't but the screenshot (specifically the text and logo watermark) made me nostalgic for those reports the MoD used to release... Why did SAA stop officially releasing media from the war zones? Purely for OpSec (lol) or did they figure filming bombed out villages wasn't great optics? I remember youtube shutting them down but their website isn't even up...
>>260933 It would be their best option for long-term survival to focus their efforts on the mountains but due to T*rkish influence they're hell bent on defending Idlib city and the Idlib plain - a strategy that they will regret.
Somebody once told me Bashar is gonna roll me I ain't the fastest guy in my squad She was looking kind of dumb - there’s no burqa where she’s from I’ll blow up all kuffar with my warhead
Well the Tigers start coming and they don't stop coming Dropped my AK and I hit the ground running Didn't make sense to live for Jihad Greenbussed to Idlib – only choice I had We lost so much, no gains for me But what's wrong with taking the back seat? You'll never know if you don't go No martyrdom if you don't blow
Habibi, you're a bomber, get your belt on, go pray Hey now, you're the driver, get the car or get flayed And all that’s falling is bombs BTFO’d non-stop at Homs
It's a hot place and they say it gets hotter Attacking non-stop, bring used as cannon fodder But Juliani begs to differ Barrels hitting Ghouta, and it’s not a pretty picture Our last reserves are getting pretty thin Green boat to Libya, or we might as well swim My base is on fire, howboat yours? Pretend we got gassed or we’ll never move forward
Habibi, you're a bomber, get your belt on, go pray Hey now, you're the driver, get the car or get flayed And all that’s falling is bombs BTFO’d non-stop at Homs
Somebody once asked could I spare my goat or sex I need to do what we Jihadis do best I said yep, what a concept I could use a bit of that myself Cos we could all be dead any day
Well the Tigers start coming and they don't stop coming Dropped my AK and I hit the ground running Didn't make sense to live for Jihad Greenbussed to Idlib – only choice I had We lost so much, no gains for me But what's wrong with taking the back seat? You'll never know if you don't go No martyrdom if you don't blow
Habibi, you're a bomber, get your belt on, go pray Hey now, you're the driver, get the car or get flayed All our kotels are gone Cucksheds filled with turks won’t last long All our kotels are gone Cucksheds filled with turks won’t last long
>Saraqeb sector: Arrival of Brigadier General Suhail Hassan to the clashes sector W/ very large reinforcements to harvest the souls of the Turks before those of the militants. A few hours & you'll see their corpses in the area. >Be sure we wont have mercy on any of you https://twitter.com/SyriaGeneral/status/1233101476525944835
>Twitter has become unavailable across Turkey as of 11:30 p.m. local time for users of national provider Turk Telekom following alleged attack on Turkish troops in Idlib; other social media currently unaffected; developing situation
>Al-Ikhbaria: The noise that was heard are the result of the terrorist attack from the Badama area of Idlib countryside in the Lattakia area without any casualties https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/1233136879740051456
>Erdoğan's adviser Mesut Hakkı Caşın said Russia, where there are 25 Mn Muslims, will be dismembered from within. "We fought #Russia 16 times in the past, we will do it again, our vengeance will be quite terrible," he said. https://twitter.com/ahval_en/status/1233165920253751300
>The forces began moving into Saraqib #Idlib axis about an hour ago the target is farther than Al Nayrab >The night might carry more escalations after Turkey shifted the aggression into another level (i will talk about it at the right time) https://twitter.com/Syrian_MC/status/1233184228877180929 >Tiger Forces Reporter 1.40 AM: >Our front position is excellent >Heavy Russian Presence in the air >Bombardment is still on Saraqib >And preparing for the battle of return and insurance https://twitter.com/SyriaGeneral/status/1233184481722454018
Holy shit, T*rkey have actually been hammering SAA alot these past 17 days: https://twitter.com/anadoluagency/status/1233192454721081346 No wonder the jihadis have been having such an easy time around Saraqib. The KIA claim is obviously exaggerated but the amount of artillery/tanks they've been hitting is unacceptable. The drones have been getting downed since two days ago >>260673 so the footage is probably old now (some of it i recognize is from the Nayrab battle), hopefully they can keep it that way. >Their manned warplanes also carried out five to six airstrikes with stand-off weapons (long range surface to ground missiles) https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1233197172830752768 Around 25 strikes in the drone footage, i wonder what the other 19-20 was, guided missile artillery or drone strikes?
Shame that the Zawiyah offensive have been halted, but oh well, they have a foothold on the peak so resuming the offensive towards al-Arba'een mountains and Ariha even if the jihadis reinforce this front won't be as hard as it would've been if they used the forces that captured Saraqib to defend Jabal Shahshbo. Let's see if the Tigers redeployed from Zawiyah to Saraqib front can make some gains tomorrow and if the statement about the target being "to advance further than Al Nayrab" is true. gn
>>261051 we get special protocols on how to deal with the possible outbreak and patients coming back from asia also we were told not to talk to journalist about the procedures to deal with the outbreak
>Anna News : Militants are in Afes, Nairab, San, Jawbas, Dadikh, Badikh. Situation in the front as a whole is stabilized. Militants have not been trying to Advance. #SAA pulled LARGE Forces to Saraqib. Saraqib streets are monitored & empty. >Anna News : Militants suffered significant losses in men and equipmen due to artillery and air strikes in Saraqib axis. Most militants withdrew from Saraqib but that does not mean the city is empty. Also Dadikh & Badikh most militants gone. >Anna News : The only Obstacle to the SAA Offensive to recapture Saraqib & Surroundings is the Turkish Drones they are circling Saraqib & the M-5 Highway Burned Equipment along the road. Turkey Continues to strike Syrian Armed Forces >Anna News : There are no Defenses in Saraqib. Militants did not have time to prepare anything. If the Syrians turn on their air defense then Saraqib will not hold out for a long time. https://twitter.com/SyriaGeneral/status/1233447949113462785 THEY AREN'T EVEN SHOOTING DOWN THE DRONES?! WHAT THE FUCK
One the one side I should be happy coz many sunniggers on the both sides are dying, but on the other hand.. Jesus fucking Christ, Assad, get your shit together.
>Mansoura is not under the control of the army and the locations north of Mansoura, that were reported as liberated, are all still occupied (enemy). https://twitter.com/Bosni_94/status/1233482219714416649 This comes from Tiger Force reporter.
>>261125 >This Cochrane review provides convincing evidence from 13 randomized placebo-controlled trials that taking zinc soon after the onset of symptoms of the common cold significantly reduces both the duration and severity of symptoms.
>Three trials used zinc acetate in daily doses of over 75 mg, the pooled result indicating a 42% reduction in the duration of colds (95% CI: 35% to 48%). Five trials used zinc salts other than acetate in daily doses of over 75 mg, the pooled result indicating a 20% reduction in the duration of colds (95% CI: 12% to 28%)."[1]"
>Zinc acetate lozenges shortened the duration of nasal discharge by 34% (95% CI: 17% to 51%), nasal congestion by 37% (15% to 58%), sneezing by 22% (−1% to 45%), scratchy throat by 33% (8% to 59%), sore throat by 18% (−10% to 46%), hoarseness by 43% (3% to 83%), and cough by 46% (28% to 64%). Zinc lozenges shortened the duration of muscle ache by 54% (18% to 89%)
>>261128 No but it proves it does have some sort of antiviral activity also we don't know much about coronameme yet. can't hurt.
>The Oklahoma City physician said you should be taking another pill as well, Zinc.
>“We want to have a lot of zinc in our systems because zinc directly inhibits the replication of the virus, so even if it gets into the cell it can’t keep reproducing and it’s relatively harmless,” said Dr. Williams.
>>261132 >but it proves it does have some sort of antiviral activity nope it proves that it has anti influenza virus (common cold virus) activity unless there are studies showing the same effects observed on other viruses, one must assume that this is specific to the influenza virus until proven otherwise that's how scientific research works, you don't extrapolate >same death rate from hamas rockets kek
>>261133 >it proves that it has anti influenza virus (common cold virus) activity
come on semantics >Broadly, zinc exerts its antiviral effect by interfering with four stages of the viral life cycle, which includes loss of infectivity of the virus, inhibition of virus entry into the host, inhibition of viral polypeptide processing, and inhibition of the activity of viral protease and/or RdRp
also from my understating corona is not that different from the common cold, it's just more contagious.
besides there's only 7 confirmed cases here and none anywhere where I live. France has 57 cases and your'e the one who's going to come in direct contact with them trying to cure them it'd be a shame if you'd catch anything eh :^)
>>261134 >come on >semantics nah, could be that zinc works on a particular mechanism of replication or on the particular shell of the virus that is different from other viruses which makes the zinc only effective against the influenza virus yeah i know, you have to pretend to be dumb and restrain yourself from making hasty conclusion such is the world of scientific research >t. has to deal with such bullshit on a daily basis when reviewing bleeding edge medical discoveries and by bullshit i mean i remember an article made from an israeli team which was published on a magazine owned by the israeli leader (who is by the way the "international reference in the case of myofascial chronic pains" an undeserved reputation by my opinion) that was supervising the study and quite objectively this article wouldn't have passed if it was published here due to the enormous biases in it and the lack of rigor in the protocols which made me laugh to see the exerted power of the jews on even the scientific media https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30129937
>France has 57 cases and your'e the one who's going to come in direct contact with them trying to cure them yah, and i'm really not scared of it, it's overblown by the media >it'd be a shame if you'd catch anything eh :^) if anything i'd be glad to catch it, so i can train my immune system and if i die, then it just proves that i didn't deserve to live to begin with
>>261135 >Nortriptyline Compared to Amitriptyline for the Treatment of Persistent Masticatory Myofascial Pain. Hmmm yes I know some of these words. kek'd on the story though. most of the peer reviewed research coming from China is BS too.
> and i'm really not scared of it, it's overblown by the media I know, I've been spamming /cvg/ for weeks telling them exactly that
>>261137 >most of the peer reviewed research coming from China is BS too. yes but by virtue of high number, they tend to also produce good articles if anything, the quality grading of articles is close to the (you) system the more cited in different papers an article is, the more relevant and good it is kinda like having a lot of (you)s >I've been spamming /cvg/ for weeks telling them exactly that boy you sure have a lot of spare time on your hands
>>261139 >if anything, the quality grading of articles is close to the (you) system the more cited in different papers an article is, the more relevant and good it is kinda like having a lot of (you)s That makes sense, but still, in China it's on a whole new level pic related
> The online publication Quartz reported in 2017 that more than 50 percent of all articles retracted by scientific journals worldwide for fake peer reviews were submitted by Chinese authors.
>boy you sure have a lot of spare time on your hands meh, only a few minutes of shitposting here and there. I tried getting into podcasts a while ago to kill time and I've found it incredibly boring couldn't finish a single ep no idea how people manage to find it interesting Most of time i try to read books if i have enough concentration.
>US troops will fully withdraw from Afghanistan within 14 months, says joint agreement between Afghan government and US, which is expected to be announced later today. The plan is "subject to the Taliban’s fulfillment of its commitments under the US-Taliban agreement." https://twitter.com/TOLOnews/status/1233725064870342657
>The U.S. will bring down its troop numbers to 8,600 in 135 days after the signing of the deal today and the aspirational schedule for full withdrawal is 14 months, but conditioned on taliban fulfilling their end of the bargain.
>>261183 Maybe Iran might step in now that Russia's word is worth shit. Tho no diss for all the RuAF pilots Wagner PMCs and Spetnaz fighting along Syrians.
That's fucking it. I could stand not dealing with k*rdoids on a hard terms. I could fucking stand possible "accident" of Issam But I won't fucking stand doing nothing while fucking roaches roam your country freely Assad. You're showing you're worth fucking nothing. If this is the future you chose, then get fucked.
>>261270 >Twist of events.. The airplane that was shoot this morning over Saraqib was Turkish Air Force TAI Anka-S, armed combat drone. Syrian Air Defence claims the downing. Rebels celebrate. Syira these days. https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1234053872446038016
No shit Turkey is winning. You have Turkroache jihadists also. Fighting both HTS, FSA, and Turkey and the fucking jews. Let’s see Turkey fight iff Greece and SAA at the same time.
Could it be that Russia is withdrawing to trade one alliance for another? After all, Turkey is split between East and West despite its NATO membership and geopolitically would be far stronger a choice than Syria, due to the Bosporus, military size, and economic significance. It may be a gamble Putin is willing to make, or perhaps he doesn't want to burn his bridges. Don't forget the S-400 missiles Turkey has.
>>261292 Is there something equivalent to a Binkov's Battlegrounds regarding war between Turkey and Syria? Obviously Turkey has the military advantage, but how would different strategies change the course? Would be using Idlib as a no-man's land be viable? How about a defensive stance with minimal employment of air assets?
I'd imagine that protecting convoys from drones/airstrikes is the biggest challenge, particularly considering that it's generally open ground.
#Iran #Syria #Turkey Statement of Iran’s consultative center in Syria regarding #Idlib incidents
"We tell Turkish people that their children are within our reach and we can take revenge but withhold under command of the operation leader." https://twitter.com/A7_Mirza/status/1234088251436281856 Cucked tbqhwy. Erdogan deserves to rule the MENA region if this is all that the resistance has to offer.
>>261295 This also depends on the doctrine. Soviet AA was about a layered air defense with SAMs, AAAs and MANPADS all over the place but it is true that MANPADS are generally the last layer of air defense.
Syrian Hezbollah (shia fighters from Nubl & Zahraa) ambushed some moderate jihadists near Saraqib https://twitter.com/A7_Mirza/status/1234444582341029889 HTS aren't used to SAA forces that doesn't run when they get stormed
>>261384 >>261383 Admit it dude. This, happenign right now, is really cool.It will prolong the war and many excess will die (and Dog sends more rapefugees our way) but the footage, the more sincere battles are really fucking dope. If Russian Airforces get more enagegd and SAA airdefence comes online this would become sublime.
By the way, SAA finally did some cleaning up in Daraa (storming Sanamayn to be specific) and unconfirmed reports are saying militants are getting green bused to Idlib. Question is, are they gonna fight or go to Europe?
>erdomeme literally gave up on Idlib Some time will pass, SAA&frens will all clean it up and then it all will be dirty politics process. I can live with such war's end.
>>261760 Yes, and? This war was too much of a fucking crazy rollercoaster to not melt sometimes over it. Remember when, for instance, Great Satan bombed SAA position in besieged DeZ and some ppl were thinking this will allow ISIS to capture the city? Wallah, I still need to take a pilgrimage on my knees to Umayyad Mosque in Damascus and beg Bashar for ever doubting him.
>Erdogan Loses the Battle, But the War Is Far from Over >Following 6 hours of grueling negotiations, including direct negotiations between Putin and Erdogan, the parties have finally agreed to the following: >A ceasefire will begin at midnight. >Russia and Turkey will jointly patrol the M4 highway (M5 now belongs to Damascus). A 6km buffer zone will have to be created and enforced on each side of M4 by the March 15th (see map above) >Both parties have reaffirmed their commitment to Syria’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. >Both parties have reaffirmed their commitment to a create the conditions for a return of the refugees. >Both parties have reaffirmed that this conflict as no military solution. https://www.unz.com/tsaker/erdogan-loses-the-battle-but-the-war-is-far-from-over/
>All the strategic mountains (circled in green) overlooking the regions of Al Maraziq and Al Labinat are completely under Houthis control. >Al Labinat Camp (eastern Al Hazm district) is finally under Houthi Ansarullah control. All Hadi/Islah forces were safely retreated towards Marib side https://twitter.com/tonytohcy/status/1235968371016921088
>The Russian-Turkish deal is valid for six months. Turkey will have to present all maps where its proxies are deployed and where jihadists and foreign figgers are deployed in the entire area of Idlib and surroundings >#Syria and #Russia have the freedom to bomb all jihadists positions as included in the non-announced deal. Therefore there is no violation of the ceasefire unless, along the M4, Turkey fail to clear the Saraqeb-Latakia road and the Syrian army becomes under fire. >#Turkey asked until the 15th of March to clear jihadists or dislodge them (perhaps to other parts of Syria at the moment. That is not >Russia/Damascus's problem) from the main axis agreed in #Moscow. Turkey said if Jihadists won't leave, Ankara shall not intervene in their favour. >#Saraqeb and the entire M5 will remain (including Turunbah 2km away) and everywhere the Syrian army has liberated will remain under its own control. The Syrian army keeps control of all liberated cities with no withdrawal. >The #Moscow deal is an annexe to the 2018 Astana deal with modifications excluding the liberated area. >The M4 Saraqeb (outside the city) - Ariha - Oram al Jouz - Jisr al Shoughur - Bdama will be patrolled by the Russian and Turkish armies. Therefore cleared of jihadists. >In some areas along the M4, there are less than 6km and other less than 4 km. That is not a problem. The military delegation of both sides will figure it out on the ground. >#Turkey will pull out the groups under its wings like the Sultan Murad, sultan Salim, Zinki, Mo'tasem... >Why Erdogan insisted on meeting Putin? he asked to meet him in Ankara but Putin refused. Erdogan was happy to come to Moscow to close this war and talk about other issues. https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1236028540463837184
>Lebanon to default on debt for first time amid financial crisis Lebanon said on Saturday it would default on its Eurobond debt for the first time and seek out restructuring agreements amid a spiralling financial crisis that has affected foreign currency reserves.
The country, hit by a severe liquidity crunch and months of anti-government protests, was due to repay a $1.2bn (£920m) Eurobond on 9 March, while another $700m matures in April and a further $600m in June.
But the prime minister, Hassan Diab, said that foreign currency reserves have fallen to “a worrying and dangerous level which pushes the Lebanese government to suspend payment of the 9 March Eurobond maturity because of a need for these funds.”
“The Lebanese state will seek to restructure its debts, in a manner consistent with the national interest, by entering into fair negotiations ... with all creditors,” he said in a live address.
Lebanon’s debt burden, long among the largest in the world, is now equivalent to nearly 170% of its gross domestic product.
Despite a series of crises, the country has never before defaulted, but in recent months it has grappled with its worst economic turmoil since the 1975-1990 civil war.
Foreign currency inflows have slowed, Lebanon’s pound has plunged in value and banks have imposed tough restrictions on dollar withdrawals and transfers.
Local banks, which own a chunk of the Eurobonds maturing on 9 March, had argued against a default, saying it would pile added pressure on a cash-strapped banking sector and compromise Lebanon’s ties with foreign creditors. According to Marwan Barakat, head of research at Bank Audi, Lebanese banks owned $12.7bn of the country’s outstanding $30bn Eurobonds as of the end of January.
The central bank held $5.7bn and the remainder was owned by foreign creditors, he said.
According to local media reports, Lebanese banks have recently sold a chunk of their Eurobonds to foreign lenders.
Anti-government demonstrators who have remained on the streets since October have lobbied against repayment, fearing a depletion of reserves could further limit access to their savings.
“We shouldn’t have to pay the price of government shortcomings,” said Nour, a 16-year-old demonstrator, during a rally outside the central bank’s headquarters in Beirut.
Rallies were held across the country on Saturday to decry deteriorating living conditions.
Lebanon’s sovereign debt rating slid into junk territory long ago, but investor confidence has fallen further since the mass protests erupted. Credit rating agencies have warned of further downgrades in the event of a default, but economists have stressed the need to protect Lebanon’s foreign currency reserves. Jad Chaaban, an economics professor at the American University of Beirut, blamed the political class for Lebanon’s predicament, accusing it of decades of corruption. The crisis “is the creation of a failed and criminal political class that has lied and robbed for more than 30 years,” he said on Facebook.
He called on officials to restructure the debt and introduce an economic rescue plan that would protect modest depositors.
Diab met last month with a delegation from the International Monetary Fund to discuss how to tackle the country’s spiralling economic crisis.
The premier asked the Washington-based emergency lender for advice, but has yet to ask for funds.
Barakat at Bank Audi said IMF assistance was necessary.
“Lebanon needs first and foremost an imminent debt restructuring plan within the context of a comprehensive plan for debt management,” he told AFP.
The best move would be “to have such a plan under the umbrella of the IMF”, since that would enable international financial assistance to materialise, he said. The Lebanese pound, which has officially been pegged to the dollar since 1997, has plummeted on the parallel market, amid soaring inflation and unemployment.
The World Bank has warned of an impending recession that may see poverty rates rise drastically.
Lebanon’s foreign backers, including France, have said they are willing to offer financial assistance if the country takes serious steps towards addressing the ailing economy.
>>262054 Do you have any special insights into the virus that you think should be shared? >80% of deaths are from patients that are aged 60+ Pic related.
>>262066 sure let me give you some insights we got from a debrief at the hospital -it can survive 5 days (confirmed to 9 days (unconfirmed) on inert surfaces (that means everything you can touch in your daily life) -first symptoms appear 6 to 14 days after infection but you can transmit it even before the symptoms -it can be found on every bodily fluids (piss, shit, blood, mucus from runny nose, spit etc) -it's, as the flu virus, very mutagenic, that means there are possibly more than one strain which will make vaccine hard to create and wont guarantee immunity if you recover from one strain as you could be re-infected by another strain (although less likely to be as bad as first infection since the strains are somewhat close enough to ease the work of the immune system) -regular surgical masks won't do shit, it's the ffp2 masks that can filter it out, and you still need to change masks every 4 hours of usage -the people that think that just wearing a masks will protect them are wrong, when they can carry the virus on their hands or clothes and then end up infecting themselves once they start touching their face/nose/mouth while carrying the virus -bleach (0.5%) and alcohol (70%) seems to be effective at killing it -oddly enough so far people under the age of 10 tends to be less likely to be infected while older people and especially people with weak respiratory system (such as people with copb acquired from long term smoking (pingu you better quit that shit while you still have time)) are more likely to get infected and die -majority of the symptoms are flu like (muscle pain, coughing, fever, coldness) although a few number (15%) tend to present severe symptoms, pneumonia like and shortness of breath to be fair i'm starting to doubt my previous statements about how inoffensive it is as i see italy quarantining millions of their citizens
>Houthis continue advancing N. #Jawf governorate & captured Jabal Khanaq, Ashar & Salīlah, Muhashimah & Yatimah areas & managed to break #YSF defenses & force them to withdraw from other important positions like Haḑbat Juayd, Ḑab & Murrah https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1236748402047795202
>>262068 What do you think about these links? The virus has been documented to reinfect people in China and Japan, and it can invade the central nervous system and hide from the immune system in the brain since WBCs can’t cross the blood-brain barrier <—— unless I’m wrong about that bit, I defer to you.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.25728 >Following the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS‐CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS‐CoV), another highly pathogenic coronavirus named SARS‐CoV‐2 (previously known as 2019‐nCoV) emerged in December 2019 in Wuhan, China, and rapidly spreads around the world. This virus shares highly homological sequence with SARS‐CoV, and causes acute, highly lethal pneumonia (COVID‐19) with clinical symptoms similar to those reported for SARS‐CoV and MERS‐CoV. The most characteristic symptom of COVID‐19 patients is respiratory distress, and most of the patients admitted to the intensive care could not breathe spontaneously. Additionally, some COVID‐19 patients also showed neurologic signs such as headache, nausea and vomiting. Increasing evidence shows that coronavriruses are not always confined to the respiratory tract and that they may also invade the central nervous system inducing neurological diseases. The infection of SARS‐CoV has been reported in the brains from both patients and experimental animals, where the brainstem was heavily infected. Furthermore, some coronaviruses have been demonstrated able to spread via a synapse‐connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center from the mechano‐ and chemoreceptors in the lung and lower respiratory airways. In light of the high similarity between SARS‐CoV and SARS‐CoV2, it is quite likely that the potential invasion of SARS‐CoV2 is partially responsible for the acute respiratory failure of COVID‐19 patients. Awareness of this will have important guiding significance for the prevention and treatment of the SARS‐CoV‐2‐induced respiratory failure.
>>262079 >The virus has been documented to reinfect people in China and Japan depend could be patient with lowered symptoms due to treatment that are prematurely discharged while still ill or basically re-infection from different strain methinks it's the former >it can invade the central nervous system highly doubt so, it's a pulmonary disease and nothing of the sort has been demonstrated backed with solid proofs (keywords "backed with solid proofs") back when it was analysed during the 2004 outbreak and so far all the deaths are caused by respiratory failure instead of brain failure sounds more like happeningfag fake news than anything > immune system in the brain there isn't a regular immune system in the brain because any inflammation will cause damage to neurons and that's something we can't have instead there are specialized cells (microglia) which are basically white blood cells but for the brain that assure the defense >some COVID‐19 patients also showed neurologic signs such as headache, nausea and vomiting how is that even proof of brain targeting by the virus? any disease cause the same problem more often than not these aren't neurological signs but functional signs (basically general signs) neurological signs would be something like loss of hearing or impairment/loss of sight or impairment//hallucinations/dyskinesia etc
>>262068 >to be fair i'm starting to doubt my previous statements about how inoffensive it is as i see italy quarantining millions of their citizens to add to that let me give you some insider info the response of the government to this possible pandemic is utter shit (they promised to deliver ffp2 masks to hospitals and docs and dentists working on their own) and all that was received was at best expired masks or for 90% no delivery of masks also the main issue is the fact that a lot of infected patient require intensive care to assure proper ventilation as they experience respiratory insufficiency but there are nearly not enough beds in hospitals to treat them all measuring by the rate at which the virus is spreading if anything it's spread and government reaction (mass quarantine of whole regions) across the globe is on scales higher than the previous avian and swine flu "pandemics" but then again governments are never properly prepared to face pandemics because they don't get a 3 months notice but this time it'll be more punishing as the scale of this outbreak is far more bigger ironically china is the one doing the best as they're already providing ffp2 masks by the medium of vending machines and are building hospitals to care for the upcoming massive amounts of intensive care cases if italy wasn't hit as hard i wouldn't be concerned but rn i'm expecting other european countries to face similar mass quarantines and most likely shortages of common goods as the pop will mass buy everything too fast for the resupply rate of supermarkets
hope i'm wrong but i'm not a happening fag and yet i'm still concerned about the future outcome
>>262080 >released early Tbh I was thinking the same thing, but China announced that there’s two strains floating about. The more infections and less harmful one is what Europe has right now, and the more lethal one was mostly confined to Hubei. >respiratory failure How do you explain the “could not breathe spontaneously” bit? >microglia Neat, I didn’t know about this. >general function signs Ok yeah that makes sense. >>262082 Me, I’m more concerned about how this will affect the US. We’re not ready for this shit and mass buying is already happening. But they’re buying up antibacterial soap to combat a virus - although the soap itself is effective against the virus. I’m far more concerned about the panic caused by this virus than the actual infections, Americans are kept docile solely by the bread and circuses and both are currently unraveling right now.
Btw did you hear that two coofers showed up to the AIPAC meet a few days ago?
>>262080 Hi, i'm back on /horsefucker general/ because Ebin told me you got coofed. He got most of his info from me, so I'll clarify some things. There actually has been solid evidence, as provided in one of the links Ebin posted
"The infection of SARS‐CoV has been reported in the brains from both patients and experimental animals, where the brainstem was heavily infected. Furthermore, some coronaviruses have been demonstrated able to spread via a synapse‐connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center from the mechano‐ and chemoreceptors in the lung and lower respiratory airway"
A mechanism of action is proposed here
Now, here's another paper that mentions similar. This paper actually talks about how ACE2 plays a role in the nervous system and the brain, and one of the ways they figured out how and where it was present was because SARS was getting into people's brains
"SARS-CoV has been detected in brains of infected patients, almost exclusively in neurons, suggesting the distribution of ACE2 to the CNS (Ding et al. 2004; Gu et al. 2005; Xu et al. 2005). Indeed, we recently demonstrated the presence of the ACE2 protein and mRNA in the mouse brain, predominantly in neurons (Doobay et al. 2007). Using a selective antibody, we found that ACE2 is widespread throughout the brain, present in nuclei involved in the central regulation of cardiovascular function like the cardio-respiratory neurons of the brainstem, as well as in non-cardiovascular areas such as the motor cortex and raphe (Doobay et al. 2007). Our observation was later confirmed by Lin et al. showing the presence of ACE2 mRNA and protein in the mouse brainstem (Lin et al. 2008). While these findings suggest that ACE2 is a new component of the brain RAS, they also imply that the involvement of ACE2 in the CNS is beyond the regulation of cardiovascular function."
And this current virus was confirmed to be in the CNS too
"Gene sequencing by Beijing Ditan Hospital found coronavirus in the cerebrospinal fluid of a 56-year-old confirmed #COVID19 patient with encephalitis, which provides evidence that COVID19 can invade patients’ nervous systems, just like SARS and MERS."
Relapse and apparent reinfection has been reported in multiple countries now, and the virus hiding in the nervous system (or somewhere else in your body) only to come back later isn't anything new as far as viruses go (Chickenpox and mononucleosis for example)
>>262084 >How do you explain the “could not breathe spontaneously” bit? just like every lethal pulmonary disease (like TB) the infection causes destruction of the lung tissue by immunity cells trying to confine the spread of the disease, so much so that the whole lung is dysfunctional >We’re not ready for this shit idk, the hurricanes seems to have prepared the US pop to pandemic like situation where gov services (hospital and police) are not functioning but then again don't expect the private healthcare lobbies to do anything to prevent the spread of the disease, they don't make money out of healthy patients, they make money out of the infected ones >But they’re buying up antibacterial soap to combat a virus neither anitbiacterial soap nor antibiotics are useful against viruses, but washing your hands with soap is tho >I’m far more concerned about the panic caused by this virus than the actual infections me too, also government quarantines will be the most devastating thing over actual death rates to affected nations >Btw did you hear that two coofers showed up to the AIPAC meet a few days ago? inb4 iran did this
i can't sleep and now i'm coughing more and more and i have a metal taste in the throat it's not the first time it happened but still, could be it guys
>>262087 Hoping for the best for you, and that you get well soon. I've read that coughing in itself is not indicative of corona as it is an indication of upper respiratory "infection" and corona is mainly affect lower respiratory system. Still sending you my best wishes for a speedy recovery no matter what it is.
>>262089 >>maybe it's just my chronic depression making me wish that i die I know that feel. I hope you feel better soon both physically and psychically. Still one can not write off corona as cause in these times, the symptoms people have varies from none to straight out collapsing in the streets. So it is probably any ones guess what it is until tested. If anything like in Norway, just say you fear you have corona and be ordered home for 14 days with paid leave from work. Take it as an little stay at home holiday.
>>262090 thanks pal > just say you fear you have corona and be ordered home for 14 days with paid leave from work my moral duty prevents me from doing so, hospitals have not nearly enough docs, can't let my team take the extra burden
>>262094 >my moral duty prevents me from doing so, hospitals have not nearly enough docs, can't let my team take the extra burden Fully understandable and honorable. If you ever get breathing problems (quick to fatigue) a test might not be the worst option though.
>>260149 >>260150 >>260154 Fuck you, i live in gilan. the whole province is quarantined. i haven't left my house in 3 weeks. i eat beans and soybeans for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Hospitals are full, pharmacies are out of masks,gloves and even alchohol. markets are closed, even several graveyards are out of space. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2yQ3LkeWDA The official number of deaths are 200 in country(except three province with terrible situation:Qom-Gilan-Tehran). according to health ministry only 200 died in Gilan alone, god knows how many died in Qom. Don't believe bullshits like(it's just a flu bro, only old people die from corona), high percentage of deaths here are under-40 doctors,nurses and bank and office employees. Pic related was a 25 years old nurse, she died of corona several days ago. Anyway, if anyone have spare money please buy me a 4chan pass, i'm bored i want to shitpost but i can't. thanks.
>>262126 >soybeans for breakfast, lunch and dinner. corona is the least of your concern then >Hospitals are full, pharmacies are out of masks,gloves and even alchohol. it's the same everywhere, not only in iran >according to health ministry only 200 died in Gilan alone that's nothing compared to what the common cold kills every year and let alone more dangerous diseases that are endemic to third world countries like TB but i don't see anyone losing their shit over it >only old people die from corona nobody said that, old people are more LIKELY to die, not the only one to die doesn't mean you're immune to death if under the age of 60 it's about probabilities not raw numbers >Pic related was a 25 years old nurse, she died of corona several days ago. >look at this healthcare worker that is exposed to diseases on a daily basis and coincidentally dies of the disease, truly corona is the end of the world you do realize docs and nurses are on the front line of exposure right? if she followed basic safety measures she wouldn't be dead she had it coming
all in all: stop sperging out, i work in a hospital where some corona patients are quarantined and i still don't lose my shit
update on my status, the symptoms are far more lowered now that i started my homemade anti-flu treatment barely any cough and the muscle pain and chills are now gone it was unironcically just a flu bro
>>262127 >corona is the least of your concern then I have no other choice >it's the same everywhere, not only in iran People are dying on streets everywhere? hospitals don't accept patients everywhere? >that's nothing compared to what the common cold kills every year You are a delusional boomer. I wish it was just a flu(bro), but it's not. atleast here.
>>262129 >People are dying on streets everywhere? hospitals don't accept patients everywhere? it happens for other diseases in your country but it's a concern only for corona? go check how many people die because of hepatitis or AIDS or tuberculosis in iran due to lack of healthcare coverage and tell me that corona is the priority threat