/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Obviously freedom is good, but your freedoms need to be secured by a government strong enough to keep the other countries afraid.
Absolute anarchy just gets you steamrolled by a more organized force.
Constitutional EthnoEgalitarian Meritocratic Republic sounds good to me. Everyone has rights if they're of the right race, nigs and chinks aren't permitted, and being born poor cant stop you from rising up and becoming successful.

>>257884
SHALL

>>257909
NOT

>>257910
BE

>>257915
INFRINGED

You and that horseshoe theory trash, there's a reason why even normies use a two-axes political compass.

>>258023
Not OP but I don't think National Socialism and Marxism are as different as normies say they are. Both recognize the "failure" of liberal democracies and capitalism. Therefore both use socialist economics.

The big difference is implementation. Marxists want class revolution led by the proletariat but the National Socialists rely on a unification of the race that transcends individualism and class conflict. Marxists reject sectarian principles but National Socialists embrace racial struggle.

In a Marxist economy private property is abolished and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" (instead of the free market) controls what is produced. In National Socialism the state also controls production but doesn't need to achieve this through class struggle. I'm also of the opinion National Socialism allows a guise of free market principles so long as the interests of the State (which represents the race) are not in conflict with the enterprise. I'm still not sure how far this goes. I know the Nazis did tons of price fixing and had 5 year plans just like other Socialist countries.

It does get kinda blurry on the economic front because Nat Socs don't want to be compared to Marxists and visa versa. Also Marxists are usually forced to realize that complete refutation of any market principles leads to economic disaster because the state does not know what to produce as well as the market does. Also Communists did a fantastic job convincing the west that National Socialism was just late stage capitalism, which is complete bullshit.
>inb4 OP is just baiting us

>>258039
>inb4 OP is just baiting us
I agree.

>>257884
CIA-kun, are you datamining again?

>>258039
>I'm also of the opinion National Socialism allows a guise of free market principles so long as the interests of the State (which represents the race) are not in conflict with the enterprise. I'm still not sure how far this goes. I know the Nazis did tons of price fixing and had 5 year plans just like other Socialist countries.
I've seen it stated multiple times that China is the closest example that we have to seeing how Nazi Germany would have played out.

>>257884
I choose freedom total anarchy

>>258023
>there's a reason why even normies use a two-axes political compass.
post pic made by liberals and jews

Somewhat ethnocentric Theocracy that also implements policies and decisions based on red pilled science: IQ, race, etc.

Or maybe a Warhammer-flavoured Aryan imperium with the highest virtues being absolute ethnic domination and the annihilation of all lesser races.

Fuck you, cia nigger

>my artificial closed political compass field goys!

In all seriousness, identitarianism is all that matters right now. Race is real, men and women are different, and children are highly subject to political exploitation. After that we then can worry about economics, secularism, etc.

Left and right is a super over simplification that has been outdated since the end of the French revolution. If we are going to believe in that as a standard then American conservatives are still on the left since Constitutionalism and democracy are liberal ideals. Even fascism is more liberal than what the right would have been then as right wing was only representing monarchist loyalists.

>>258250
And funnily enough communism would be further to the right than American conservativism.

This but with two more axis. On the national sovereignty/authority of the state, and individual sovereignty versus authority. social versus capital being the only axis constitutes a bias.

>>258240
Correct, because the left has declared an all out war on positive identity (sex, race, religion, traditional culture) and is trying to replace truth (the traditional) with its subjective (consumer) identities. You can't avoid identitarianism in polity, only avoid it at your own experience.

Surprised this bad boy hadn't made it here yet. I find it a lot more coherent at describing over arching political persuasions.
One thing to note about it, the church/religion formed the left of yester year (Protestantism in particular was proto-progressive). And the monarchists formed the absolutists, with merchants & nobles forming the individualists.

>>259075
>I find it a lot more coherent at describing over arching political persuasions.
Indeed.

>>259075
>>259078
I respectively disagree. It explains the structure of societies but it doesn't explain what people believe which I consider much more important. It really comes down to one's conception of Truth: is it objective, unchanging, and vertical (coming from God), or is it based on human experience, subjective, and horizontal (to be understood by relationships of things)? Aristotelian and later Scholastic philosophy was founded on the former, but the latter has been modern philosophy starting with Descartes (though you could argue that there were beginnings in Protestantism). Every left-wing ideology has its basis in that "modern" conception of truth, from Jacobin republicanism to current year post-modernism, while right-wing thought is founded in a belief in objective truth. Coincidentally, that's why libertarians founded in Austrian economics are based, because this school of economics believes in objective reasoning akin to Aristotelian logic; every other economic school lacks this.

You can verify this through the "Constructivism/Essentialism" axis on the Politiscales test. I've found that every right-wing person tends to veer towards essentialism which is more objective, while left-wingers always score towards constructivism. You can take the test yourself to see. https://www.politiscales.net/en_US/